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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Ogre on May 17, 2016, 07:58:36 AM
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When I read this earlier today I couldn't help but think of a few of our own here on the X.
A curious story circulated late last week involving an audio tape of Donald Trump talking to a People magazine reporter. Trump, going by the name “John Millerâ€, bragged about himself, his sex life, his business, and more. Here is where it gets interesting.
Years ago Trump admitted it was him. As my friend Ben Domenech noted in his always excellent Transom, “Donald Trump admitted it happened, both in a court of law and in the press, in 1990 and in 1991. It is not and was not in dispute prior to the past week.†But on Friday morning, Trump denied it was him after years of admitting it was him. Suddenly, the Branch Trumpidians swung into action going on television and radio to deny it was him.
On the weekend shows, Trump loyal comrade Paul Manafort, the Kremlin’s favorite Republican, explicitly denied that Trump was Trump. It was a lie. It is always a lie with the Branch Trumpidians. They will crucify the truth at noon on a Friday if they thought it would resurrect Donald Trump’s career on a Sunday.
It serves the greater good, you see. Because Trump is not Hillary Clinton.
Time and time again, Trump’s supporters in and out of his cult ultimately conclude that any sin committed by Donald Trump is okay because he is not Hillary Clinton. It cannot be that they are both unfit for office. Trump, in every case, is more fit for office because Trump is not Clinton. Never mind the bankruptcies, never mind the endorsement of war crimes, never mind the advocacy of torture, never mind the swindling, never mind the affairs and women and corruption and mob ties and nepotism and repeated failures and the list goes on and on. Trump is not Clinton.
Then there are the issues. Both Trump and Clinton support a government run, Canadian style universal healthcare system. Both Trump and Clinton support increases in the minimum wage. Both Trump and Clinton support transgender bathrooms. Both Trump and Clinton have advocated increasing taxes on the wealthy. Both Trump and Clinton believe Planned Parenthood does wonderful things. Both Trump and Clinton have denounced free trade and demanded “fair trade.†Both Trump and Clinton believe Washington needs to be stronger. Both Trump and Clinton believe deals must be cut. On issue after issue, Trump and Clinton have aligned at present or in the past with Trump even praising Clinton’s work as Secretary of State and supporting her for the Presidency in 2008 on the same platform for which she is again championing.
But Trump is not Clinton so Republicans will embrace Clinton’s policies under Trump’s banner because, again, Trump is not Clinton.
In Nebraska over the weekend, Republicans voted down a resolution that simply stated, “the Nebraska Republican Party strongly opposes all degrading remarks toward women, minorities, and other individuals by Republican elected office holders or party officials, including candidates for President of the United States,†because to oppose degrading remarks was opposing Donald Trump for President.
A week ago, Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts stood on stage to endorse Trump after Trump had threatened Ricketts’ parents for their opposition to him. After Ricketts’ endorsement, Trump then proceeded to call out Ricketts’ brother Todd for opposing Trump while Pete Ricketts just stood there.
Former Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal took to the pages of the Wall Street Journal and went on television to tell America how absolutely unfit for office Trump is, but that everyone should support Trump because he is not Hillary Clinton.
Just four years ago, Reince Preibus rallied Republicans to surrender the Missouri Senate seat to the Democrats because of Republican Todd Akin’s muddled answer on abortions from rape. Now he demands we unite behind Donald Trump because Donald Trump is not Hillary Clinton.
A month ago, the ostensively pro-life Baptist pastor Robert Jeffries was defending Planned Parenthood because Donald Trump said Planned Parenthood does “wonderful things.â€
On any given day, some Republican defends Donald Trump’s absurdity because Donald Trump is not Hillary Clinton. That is the ultimate defense of Trump. If you don’t vote for Trump, you are supporting Hillary Clinton. We must stop Hillary Clinton. Any criticism of Trump benefits Clinton, therefore we must not criticize the precious Donald Trump.
More and more Republicans on a daily basis surrender their credibility and integrity to justify their support of Donald Trump. The morning of the Indiana Republican Party every other Republican Presidential candidate save Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum had gone on record declaring Donald Trump unfit for the office of President. He lacked the character, the integrity, the fitness, the mental competence, the wisdom, the judgment, etc. to be Commander in Chief and President of the United States. But by the next morning suddenly these same men declared Trump fit for the office solely because he was not Hillary Clinton, even though they stood by their former remarks. The only exceptions were Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and Carly Fiorina.
Hitler is not Hillary Clinton either. The neo-nazis and white supremacists backing Donald Trump fetishize Hitler too. Trump dog whistles to them and the Republican Establishment joins them in howls of delight. One need not stretch beyond Godwin’s law to conclude that the current Republican Party would support Hitler too because Hitler, thanks be to the reich, is not Hillary Clinton.
Too few Republicans will come out of this with their integrity intact and too many Republicans, thinking they can change Donald Trump, will instead one day find that Trump has changed them instead. But hey, at least he is no Hillary Clinton.
Hail victory, Republicans. Hail victory.
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So Trump = Ron Mexico. Got it.
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More and more Republicans on a daily basis surrender their credibility and integrity to justify their support of Donald Trump.
Yep.
He lacked the character, the integrity, the fitness, the mental competence, the wisdom, the judgment, etc. to be Commander in Chief and President of the United States.
I'd change the past to present tense, but every fucking word of this is correct.
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He's still not Hillary.
She cannot be elected.
Whether or not they are similar is irrelevant. She is the worst.
That's all there is.
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He's still not Hillary.
She cannot be elected.
Whether or not they are similar is irrelevant. She is the worst.
That's all there is.
Glad your credibility and integrity mean so little.
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Glad your credibility and integrity mean so little.
Just a hypothetical here but would it not be even worse with credibility and integrity to support Hillary over Trump, if one truly thinks Hillary is much much worse? Kaos obviously thinks she is worse and there is certainly a strong case there. She is as crooked as a question mark. So is it not a matter of credibility and integrity in his eyes so much as it's simply a disdain for Hillary who would be the ultimate lack of credibility and integrity?
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there is certainly a strong case there.
Except there's not.
The only case is: He's not Hillary.
There is no substantive evidence that Trump possesses the experience, acumen, intelligence or decorum to be the leader of the free world. He's a bellicose cartoon of a person who has tapped into populist angst by playing on their latent (or in some cases, patent) racism, xenophobia and sexism.
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Glad your credibility and integrity mean so little.
So I'd have to vote for that fucking whore shrew bitch in order to have "integrity" as you see it?
Well fuck that.
It's not like I can choose Trump, Hillary or Reagan. There are two choices. Trump or her. Meaning there is no choice. I'd vote for Hitler with Stalin as VP over her. I'd vote for Scott Baio over her. I'd vote for Jesse Jackson, Slimer from Ghostbusters, Darth Vader, Ryan Seacrest, a dog biscuit, a box of hammers, trayvon Martin, Beatrix Kiddo, Forrest Gump, Joe schad, or a bag of dicks over her.
Don't see how that has anything to do with integrity or credibility.
What other choice do I have? She cannot be president.
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So an interview happened before 1990 where a dude with money bragged about being a stud? Now he's a different person and this is all they left has on him. Pffft.
In 1990, I'd bone your sister and your mother and tell your neighbor just so she would not want to get left out. I was young. Full of piss and vinegar. The world was my playground.
If you have never had the opportunity to be that guy, don't hate.
While I, and maybe Trump, was out entertaining your mom and your sister, we never let any other Americans die due to "what difference does it make"!
<The story above may or may not be true - Rob miller.>
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Except there's not.
The only case is: He's not Hillary.
There is no substantive evidence that Trump possesses the experience, acumen, intelligence or decorum to be the leader of the free world. He's a bellicose cartoon of a person who has tapped into populist angst by playing on their latent (or in some cases, patent) racism, xenophobia and sexism.
And she is a lying, power mad elitist. Her policies are misguided and dangerous.
She is the fucking antichrist.
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So I'd have to vote for that fucking whore shrew bitch in order to have "integrity" as you see it?
Well fuck that.
It's not like I can choose Trump, Hillary or Reagan. There are two choices. Trump or her. Meaning there is no choice. I'd vote for Hitler with Stalin as VP over her. I'd vote for Scott Baio over her. I'd vote for Jesse Jackson, Slimer from Ghostbusters, Darth Vader, Ryan Seacrest, a dog biscuit, a box of hammers, trayvon Martin, Beatrix Kiddo, Forrest Gump, Joe schad, or a bag of dicks over her.
Don't see how that has anything to do with integrity or credibility.
What other choice do I have? She cannot be president.
You've been provided plenty of other options, you simply dismiss them.
Trump won't be president...and that certainty helps me sleep at night.
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Except there's not.
The only case is: He's not Hillary.
There is no substantive evidence that Trump possesses the experience, acumen, intelligence or decorum to be the leader of the free world. He's a bellicose cartoon of a person who has tapped into populist angst by playing on their latent (or in some cases, patent) racism, xenophobia and sexism.
I'm no Trump supporter and definitely see the issue with Trump's strong rhetoric, but I have to disagree that his campaign is relying on racism, xenophobia, and sexism to be successful. I think there is a large majority of people (yes, it's conservative, Christian white people - mostly males) who feel underrepresented and have been led to believe that their security in this country is in danger.
I don't think they just hate blacks or Muslims or immigrants or fear Hillary because she's a woman. Perhaps it's the fault of the media and radio talkshow hosts, but there's a genuine belief among a large swath of the voting public that the white Christian conservative is the bad guy and will be marginalized in the future. They hoped for a competent candidate to emerge, but their choices are Hillary, Bernie, the 15 GOP stooges, or Trump. Trump just so happens to be their favorite choice of brass knuckles in what they perceive to be a a very difficult fight to win in today's culture.
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I think there is a large majority of people (yes, it's conservative, Christian white people - mostly males) who feel underrepresented and have been led to believe that their security in this country is in danger.
Did you type this with a straight face? White, xtian males are "underrepresented" and their "security" is in danger?
Besides being patently laughable, this is the exact genesis of white power/racist movements: we gotta protect this white, xtian paradise from them invading brown folk. Keeping women down is just a bonus result.
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Did you type this with a straight face? White, xtian males are "underrepresented" and their "security" is in danger?
Besides being patently laughable, this is the exact genesis of white power/racist movements: we gotta protect this white, xtian paradise from them invading brown folk. Keeping women down is just a bonus result.
This is the second exchange I've had with you in the last two months where you failed to comprehend the basic gist of what I wrote. You feeling okay?
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This is the second exchange I've had with you in the last two months where you failed to comprehend the basic gist of what I wrote. You feeling okay?
Spell it out for me. Cuz it sounded like you were arguing that fear of the white (xtian) man losing his place atop society was driving the Trump campaign.
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You've been provided plenty of other options, you simply dismiss them.
Trump won't be president...and that certainty helps me sleep at night.
Give me one option that was dismissed. Just one.
I've never voted for Donald Trump. When I do in the general election it will be the first.
The remainder of the options were eliminated by their own missteps or failures.
Gary Johnson? Don't make me fucking laugh. A vote for him is nothing but a vote for her. He can't win.
I oppose her. I have from the first minute her lying, whoring, cancerous ass indicated she might run for the office. She is the worst human being on the planet. If Trump is the last option between her and the office then that's what I do.
Don't rest easy just yet George clooney. You might be surprised.
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Spell it out for me. Cuz it sounded like you were arguing that fear of the white (xtian) man losing his place atop society was driving the Trump campaign.
Actually, I thought it was the first coherent thing he has written in months. Telling that you do not "get it"!
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Actually, I thought it was the first coherent thing he has written in months. Telling that you do not "get it"!
See, if you "get" it and I don't? Then I think the message is fucked.
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Did you type this with a straight face? White, xtian males are "underrepresented" and their "security" is in danger?
Besides being patently laughable, this is the exact genesis of white power/racist movements: we gotta protect this white, xtian paradise from them invading brown folk. Keeping women down is just a bonus result.
:facepalm:
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See, if you "get" it and I don't? Then I think the message is fucked.
You didn't hear what he said. You heard what your white guilt told you to hear.
The majority is feeling disenfranchised. It usually happens like this when the majority starts to feel that way. But of course those like you can only come back with, "RACISTS"!
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Did you type this with a straight face? White, xtian males are "underrepresented" and their "security" is in danger?
Besides being patently laughable, this is the exact genesis of white power/racist movements: we gotta protect this white, xtian paradise from them invading brown folk. Keeping women down is just a bonus result.
You live in a world that does not exist.
Congratulations on making it to Fantasy Island. Tell Tattoo hello from those of us who live, work and survive in the real world.
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Spell it out for me. Cuz it sounded like you were arguing that fear of the white (xtian) man losing his place atop society was driving the Trump campaign.
Well two things:
You responded by summarizing my comment with this:
Did you type this with a straight face? White, xtian males are "underrepresented" and their "security" is in danger?
Never did I make the claim that white males were underrepresented or in danger of losing their security. My claim was that they feel this is the case and have been led by the media (or their churches or radio show hosts or whatever) to believe that their way of life is in danger.
Second, I don't believe that white males are getting behind Trump because they desire a white paradise that marginalizes brown people and women. I think they see candidates from the Left having great success by appealing to bringing minorities to the center and calling for a radical change to America both socially and economically. They've then been told that the Left wants to exclude them from this radically changed America, so they are looking for the candidate that will include them.
I also think it's wrong to say that Trump's message is racist and sexist. I can go with xenophobic, but even then, I see him calling for legal immigration and not anti-immigration. Not making comments like "When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor." Not relying on his gender to insist that it's his turn to be president. Maybe I've missed some key talking points from him that expose more of a racist and sexist platform, but I haven't really paid attention to him in a few months.
I completely agree that he is unqualified to be president. I also agree that his rhetoric is appealing to white nationalists who hold very racist, xenophobic, and sexist views. However, I disagree that his campaign is successful because the GOP is latently (or patently) racist, xenophobic, and sexist. To make that claim only plays into the hands of Trump's supporters who feel like they are being alienated in today's political climate.
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Did you type this with a straight face? White, xtian males are "underrepresented" and their "security" is in danger?
Besides being patently laughable, this is the exact genesis of white power/racist movements: we gotta protect this white, xtian paradise from them invading brown folk. Keeping women down is just a bonus result.
I didn't see where he was saying that at all.
Many whites feel like they are falling by the way side. As far as having a say, any kind of influence and frankly many of them (mainly middle class) feel like they are getting the shaft from the policies that have been put in place to "right past wrongs" by "their people". And they get it hung over their heads for eternity like some permanent brand. And they are sick of it. It's not really a racial thing in the context that you relied back with. They simply want to be heard and they feel they've gotten lost in the shuffle and are falling into irrelevance amid policies aimed against them.
White middle class males/families in the U.S. are the only demographic that doesn't either: get a handout, legislative advantage or enormous tax break.
The poor, rich, minorities and women all get afforded those in some form.
And trump is doing nothing new with this tactic and demographic. The left has been doing this with women, minorities and other "disenfranchised groups" for the last 60 years. Check out one of LBJs most famous off the record quotes for proof.
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Did you type this with a straight face? White, xtian males are "underrepresented" and their "security" is in danger?
Besides being patently laughable, this is the exact genesis of white power/racist movements: we gotta protect this white, xtian paradise from them invading brown folk. Keeping women down is just a bonus result.
What do you have against Chris?
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You didn't hear what he said. You heard what your white guilt told you to hear.
The majority is feeling disenfranchised. It usually happens like this when the majority starts to feel that way. But of course those like you can only come back with, "RACISTS"!
I feel this way and I was even raised by a black family.
Then, I joined the circus as a weight guesser, had a fling with a motorcycle daredevil girl who jumped through a fiery wall of death but I eventually married Bernadette Peters.
Made a fortune when I invented a non-slip device for eyeglasses that served as a handle but I lost it all because of filthy ambulance chasing scum lawyers. Even lost my dog, Shithead. Because a few people went cross-eyed.
But that was a long time ago. 1978. I'm over it now. I don't need anything. Except this ash tray. And that's all. And this paddle game. But that's it. And this remote control.
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Well two things:
You responded by summarizing my comment with this:
Never did I make the claim that white males were underrepresented or in danger of losing their security. My claim was that they feel this is the case and have been led by the media (or their churches or radio show hosts or whatever) to believe that their way of life is in danger.
Second, I don't believe that white males are getting behind Trump because they desire a white paradise that marginalizes brown people and women. I think they see candidates from the Left having great success by appealing to bringing minorities to the center and calling for a radical change to America both socially and economically. They've then been told that the Left wants to exclude them from this radically changed America, so they are looking for the candidate that will include them.
I also think it's wrong to say that Trump's message is racist and sexist. I can go with xenophobic, but even then, I see him calling for legal immigration and not anti-immigration. Not making comments like "When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor." Not relying on his gender to insist that it's his turn to be president. Maybe I've missed some key talking points from him that expose more of a racist and sexist platform, but I haven't really paid attention to him in a few months.
I completely agree that he is unqualified to be president. I also agree that his rhetoric is appealing to white nationalists who hold very racist, xenophobic, and sexist views. However, I disagree that his campaign is successful because the GOP is latently (or patently) racist, xenophobic, and sexist. To make that claim only plays into the hands of Trump's supporters who feel like they are being alienated in today's political climate.
Also to add to this:
Hes got more votes in this primary than any GOP candidate in history has gotten in a primary. And that's with 6 states left. And a starting field of 17 candidates. Call him what you want, love or hate him but that's pretty amazing. And to get those numbers, there are a lot more than just old white racist xenophobic males voting for him.
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Well two things:
You responded by summarizing my comment with this:
Never did I make the claim that white males were underrepresented or in danger of losing their security. My claim was that they feel this is the case and have been led by the media (or their churches or radio show hosts or whatever) to believe that their way of life is in danger.
Fair point. That they feel that way is fucking laughable, though.
Second, I don't believe that white males are getting behind Trump because they desire a white paradise that marginalizes brown people and women. I think they see candidates from the Left having great success by appealing to bringing minorities to the center and calling for a radical change to America both socially and economically. They've then been told that the Left wants to exclude them from this radically changed America, so they are looking for the candidate that will include them.
That's them getting led around by the nose and their own knee-jerk reaction to "headline news." Absent some extreme fringes, no one is calling for a white-excluded society.
I also think it's wrong to say that Trump's message is racist and sexist. I can go with xenophobic, but even then, I see him calling for legal immigration and not anti-immigration. Not making comments like "When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor." Not relying on his gender to insist that it's his turn to be president. Maybe I've missed some key talking points from him that expose more of a racist and sexist platform, but I haven't really paid attention to him in a few months.
The sexism has been on display his entire adult life in the limelight, but he's really amped it up lately. Fiorina, Kelly (though she's getting in line, apparently) and Hillary have all taken shots within the last 9 months.
The most recent racist example is his taco bowl bullshit on Cinco de Mayo.
I completely agree that he is unqualified to be president. I also agree that his rhetoric is appealing to white nationalists who hold very racist, xenophobic, and sexist views. However, I disagree that his campaign is successful because the GOP is latently (or patently) racist, xenophobic, and sexist. To make that claim only plays into the hands of Trump's supporters who feel like they are being alienated in today's political climate.
I'm not saying the entirety of the GOP is racist/xenophobic and/or sexist...but there is a large segment that is and Trump's campaign courts them hard. Hey, a vote is a vote!
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I feel this way and I was even raised by a black family.
Then, I joined the circus as a weight guesser, had a fling with a motorcycle daredevil girl who jumped through a fiery wall of death but I eventually married Bernadette Peters.
Made a fortune when I invented a non-slip device for eyeglasses that served as a handle but I lost it all because of filthy ambulance chasing scum lawyers. Even lost my dog, Shithead. Because a few people went cross-eyed.
But that was a long time ago. 1978. I'm over it now. I don't need anything. Except this ash tray. And that's all. And this paddle game. But that's it. And this remote control.
JERK!
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Also to add to this:
Hes got more votes in this primary than any GOP candidate in history has gotten in a primary. And that's with 6 states left. And a starting field of 17 candidates. Call him what you want, love or hate him but that's pretty amazing. And to get those numbers, there are a lot more than just old white racist xenophobic males voting for him.
Yep. And he's basically a shock jock candidate. The Howard Stern of the race. It works.
He's different things to different people. As far as I'm concerned, he's simply my only option. I do like controlling the borders and renegotiating the trade deals. Also, love to hear him talk about ending Obamacare but I know it's unlikely. As is his presidency.
So, I really don't understand why all of the pantywaists on here get them in a wad. They don't have to worry about a man president. They can continue being gay. Their gayness shall not be infringed upon.
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So I'd have to vote for that fucking whore shrew bitch in order to have "integrity" as you see it?
Well fuck that.
It's not like I can choose Trump, Hillary or Reagan. There are two choices. Trump or her. Meaning there is no choice. I'd vote for Hitler with Stalin as VP over her. I'd vote for Scott Baio over her. I'd vote for Jesse Jackson, Slimer from Ghostbusters, Darth Vader, Ryan Seacrest, a dog biscuit, a box of hammers, trayvon Martin, Beatrix Kiddo, Forrest Gump, Joe schad, or a bag of dicks over her.
Don't see how that has anything to do with integrity or credibility.
What other choice do I have? She cannot be president.
(http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--3-2--830x553/public/ap111228110669.jpg?itok=csL3-izG)
So an interview happened before 1990 where a dude with money bragged about being a stud? Now he's a different person and this is all they left has on him. Pffft.
In 1990, I'd bone your sister and your mother and tell your neighbor just so she would not want to get left out. I was young. Full of piss and vinegar. The world was my playground.
If you have never had the opportunity to be that guy, don't hate.
While I, and maybe Trump, was out entertaining your mom and your sister, we never let any other Americans die due to "what difference does it make"!
<The story above may or may not be true - Rob miller.>
But everything Hillary may have done during her husband's administration in the 90s is very extremely relevant amirite?
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I'm no Trump supporter and definitely see the issue with Trump's strong rhetoric, but I have to disagree that his campaign is relying on racism, xenophobia, and sexism to be successful. I think there is a large majority of people (yes, it's conservative, Christian white people - mostly males) who feel underrepresented and have been led to believe that their security in this country is in danger.
I don't think they just hate blacks or Muslims or immigrants or fear Hillary because she's a woman. Perhaps it's the fault of the media and radio talkshow hosts, but there's a genuine belief among a large swath of the voting public that the white Christian conservative is the bad guy and will be marginalized in the future. They hoped for a competent candidate to emerge, but their choices are Hillary, Bernie, the 15 GOP stooges, or Trump. Trump just so happens to be their favorite choice of brass knuckles in what they perceive to be a a very difficult fight to win in today's culture.
#WellActually
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/march-web-only/actually-most-evangelicals-dont-vote-trump.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/10/opinion/campaign-stops/is-this-the-end-of-the-religious-right.html?_r=0
Trump doesn't know shit about shit about the Bible, like most subjects. When asked what his favorite verse is, all he could come up with was "Eye for an eye", which of course he misrepresented. The only time he brings Christianity up is when he is directly asked about it and has to bluster through some typically uninformed idiotic answer. More than any Republican ever, his campaign has nothing to do with Christianity. If that is your stump issue, Cruz was your guy.
And as I've said before, do a Twitter search for any racist/homophobic/misogonystic/antisemetic term and I guarantee you 95% of the results are from accounts with Trump avatars. Or search "cuck" and see whatever it is they're responding to. He frequently retweets Nazi accounts (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-retweets-apparent-neo-nazi-the-second-time-year) and Brietbart publishes stories about "Renegade Jews" (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/15/bill-kristol-republican-spoiler-renegade-jew/) out to thwart his campaign. The campaign workers featured in a PBS documentary about the election HAVE NEO NAZI TATTOOS (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-trump-bigotry-popular-article-1.2567796). And how many dozens of clearly racist incidents (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/list-racist-things-trump-rallies_us_56d7019ae4b0871f60ed519f) have occurred at his rallies from getting spit on to bloodied up while the whole crowd cheer and shout the N-word? This shit is not made up. The left have used terms like "dog whistles" to apply to the right in the past, and I've taken your stance. Trump is different. With Trump, it's actually very clearly true that he is intentionally catering to these dregs of society, and even if you don't think THAT'S true, it's pretty undeniable that they unanimously vocally support him.
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Misleading. As most evangelicals see the evil in hitlary and WILL vote Trump.
It's coming. Cry if you want. You live where your whining will not be heard any longer.
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Second, I don't believe that white males are getting behind Trump because they desire a white paradise that marginalizes brown people and women.
Fortunately CCTAU and Kaos contribute to this thread to prove that theory wrong.
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Fortunately CCTAU and Kaos contribute to this thread to prove that theory wrong.
However you wish to view me is your choice. But we are America. You are a small subset. As the left continues to indoctrinate your kind, you will grow. But for now, you are whining in the wrong place.
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I'm not saying the entirety of the GOP is racist/xenophobic and/or sexist...but there is a large segment that is and Trump's campaign courts them hard. Hey, a vote is a vote!
I think in the long run, this may be a good thing for the GOP. The racist element of the GOP that so many critics have (in my opinion unjustifiably) saddled the Republican Party as a significant element have all siphoned off to the "alt right" with Trump and Breitbart to form what is becoming a new American Fascist Party. Whether they decide to officially call it that or not is irrelevant. Trump has seperated the wheat from the chaff, that's for sure. Much easier to categorize who is conservative in principle i.e. a proponent of small government with a few exceptions here and there for issues of moral values, vs. blustering hateful authoritarian idiots. The lines are becoming clearer the further on this campaign runs.
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I think in the long run, this may be a good thing for the GOP. The racist element of the GOP that so many critics have (in my opinion unjustifiably) saddled the Republican Party as a significant element have all siphoned off to the "alt right" with Trump and Breitbart to form what is becoming a new American Fascist Party. Whether they decide to officially call it that or not is irrelevant. Trump has seperated the wheat from the chaff, that's for sure. Much easier to categorize who is conservative in principle i.e. a proponent of small government with a few exceptions here and there for issues of moral values, vs. blustering hateful authoritarian idiots. The lines are becoming clearer the further on this campaign runs.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
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You live in a world that does not exist.
Congratulations on making it to Fantasy Island. Tell Tattoo hello from those of us who live, work and survive in the real world.
Except I don't. I'm no cloistered academic. I'm a professional with 15 years in the "adult" workforce, much of that in very diverse cities and environs.
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Except I don't. I'm no cloistered academic. I'm a professional with 15 years in the "adult" workforce, much of that in very diverse cities and environs.
I'll say it again
Its never ceased to amaze me that you are a liberal, and that token is a bammer.
You both make too much sense most of the time to be in either camp.
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Gary Johnson has no chance to beat Hillary or impact the election in any meaningful way. If he did I would consider it.
It's a fruitbat vote. It's a waste. It's essentially a vote for her.
No thanks.
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However you wish to view me is your choice. But we are America. You are a small subset. As the left continues to indoctrinate your kind, you will grow. But for now, you are whining in the wrong place.
Please flesh out this statement. How exactly is the left indoctrinating a libertarian movement? Chad is a libertarian, which is basically the opposite of a big-government liberal leftist. I can't speak for him, but for me it is entirely possible to be both anti-Trump and anti-Hillary.
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That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
You sure have your finger on the pulse of what America is thinking from Prattville Alabama. Tell me more about how smart and successful you are compared to me, while I tell you what it was like to leave Prattville for the real world.
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You sure have your finger on the pulse of what America is thinking from Prattville Alabama. Tell me more about how smart and successful you are compared to me, while I tell you what it was like to leave Prattville for the real world.
I think he lives in Atlanta.
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I think he lives in Atlanta.
Prattville...Atlanta....what's the difference?
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That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
Chizzy has a little horn? Who would've ever thunk it!
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I think he lives in Atlanta.
Forget it, he's rolling.
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I just get so frustrated sometimes that I want to cry! You guys are cruel and I am not going to take it anymore!!!
Welcome to my world.
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Prattville...Atlanta....what's the difference?
2 hours? Maybe 90 mins in Kaos' car.
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I have two choices now. I didn't vote for Trump in the primary. But it's now him or Hillary. Gary Johnson is a tsetse fly. Zero hope of making any kind of splash. If he were charismatic? If he had a personality that could move people? Maybe. He's not. He looks like a drunk used car salesman who just rolled out of bed.
So let's look at the landscape.
Clinton is a criminal. She should be in prison. Her lust for power knows no bounds. She is the most corrupt politician in American history. She takes money from Arabian nations. Large sums. She takes money from the Wall Street banks that nearly broke the country financially -- thanks to fucked up fiscal policies enacted by her puppet husband that she pushed for. We have this god awful Obamacare now thanks to her. She wants it renamed Hillarycare.
Her actions as Secretary of State -- from the email fiasco to her indifference in regard to Benghazi -- are treasonous.
She has no relationship with the truth and lies as easily as she slithers. She has no qualms about lying under oath, lying for self gain, lying just to be lying.
Trump is a self promoter. A PT Barnum. I sincerely doubt he ever intended to actually BE president. But now he's here and it's my opinion he's trying to get with the program and become what he needs to be. He's going to make mistakes. He's going to say the wrong things.
My position is that Trump, for all his faults, is still an American at heart. He's still patriotic. He still believes in the power of the American military. He still believes in defending the country from enemies foreign and domestic.
Hillary Clinton believes in none of those things. She wants power for the sake of power. She would burn the country to the ground and turn us into a communist gulag if it meant having her statue erected somewhere.
So.
Fuck her.
I will vote for anyone living or dead rather than her. In this case, my only option is Trump.
That does not in any way destroy my credibility or integrity. It enhances it. I'm making what I consider to be the best decision among a slew of bad options. It's BECAUSE of my personal integrity that I cannot support a devil like Hillary.
If you can vote for that Kim Jong Un pantsuit wearing crotch duster? That's your problem. I can respect you as a person and respect your process, but I cannot respect your decision.
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I think he lives in Atlanta.
If that's true, and I don't doubt that it is, then I was wrong.
See how easy that is?
I'll let you know if it ever happens again.
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If that's true, and I don't doubt that it is, then I was wrong.
See how easy that is?
I'll let you know if it ever happens again.
Bailiff, whack his pee-pee.
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If that's true, and I don't doubt that it is, then I was wrong.
See how easy that is?
I'll let you know if it ever happens again.
I said THINK. Not 100% sure. He can confirm. But I thought I heard him mention it before.
Hey I like Prattville! Compared to Montgomery anyway. Ha
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Listen, I'm going to need the fake Chizad to not use the real Chizad's avatar. I don't mind the fake Chizad posting bullshit because I can move past it easily like bottomfeeder, but it's fucking confusing when the avatar is shared.
So please stop.
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because I can move past it easily like bottomfeeder
I chortled. :haha:
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2 hours? Maybe 90 mins in Kaos' car.
It's more like 4. But that is if the wife has to stop every 60 miles...
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I am sorry. You are right. And I will make the change. I can see how this would be confusing....to a cop.
Hey bitch, Blue Lives Matter!!!
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I am sorry. You are right. And I will make the change. I can see how this would be confusing....to a cop.
You want me to puncha-size your face for free????
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(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13230121_637705846381188_237931040886784696_n.jpg?oh=f7849b2365417cdff59f90fdf41151af&oe=57DF18AB)
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You want me to puncha-size your face for free????
What the hell's that all about? You gonna spit in it now?
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When I read this, I couldn't help but think of a few of our own here at the x.
The hit pieces on Donald Trump at National Review keep on coming, the latest being David French’s “non-exhaustive list of liberal, extreme, and outright insane things [Trump] has said in this campaign.â€
Some time ago I decided I could not in conscience vote for someone so crude, so unprepared and temperamentally unsuited to be president. French's piece helped cement my conviction Trump would make a lousy president.
But nagging concerns about Obama pulling President Hillary Clinton's strings as payback for a pardon gave me pause. As did the thought of Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills serving as her closest advisors. Also, the prospect of Bill wandering around the White House unsupervised didn't bear reflection.
And then I read Clinton E-Mails: Is the Fix In? by NRO’s Andrew McCarthy, who has chronicled the transformation of the DOJ from an agency pledged to enforce the law to one whose primary mission is to shield the president and his would-be successor from accountability. Lady Justice is no longer blind: she has taken sides.
McCarthy’s essay sparked an epiphany. My reservations concerning Trump, I’ve put aside. What terrifies me now is a mortal threat to our system: the cancer at the Department of Justice. Should Hillary be elected, it will metastasize. Loretta Lynch may expect to continue as AG as a reward for spiking the e-mail investigation; Fast and Furious, the FOIA dissimulations, Benghazi, the IRS’s politicization, and all the rest will go down the memory hole; Our First Amendment will be amended by Executive Decree to criminalize speech unacceptable to the Left; PC mavens will tighten their stranglehold on our culture; Obamacare will be resuscitated with taxpayer money, then undergo a transmedical procedure to become single payer.
Whoever owns Congress on January 20, 2017 will be unable or unwilling to check President Hillary Clinton, who is even more dishonest and unprincipled (if that's possible) than Obama. The Supremes? Fuhgeddaboudit. Hillary will appoint two or more new Justices in the Sotomayor/Kagan mold.
As much as I dislike Trump, I do not consider him evil. And while his self-regard is obnoxious, I don't doubt he loves his country. There is a chance he'll name conservatives to sit on the Supreme Court. Perhaps he'll nominate John Bolton for State and Giuliani or even Christie for Attorney General. We might finally learn what Holder and Lynch have been hiding for years. Sure, a lot of maybes, but with the Donald at least they're possibilities.
An Obama third term with Hillary standing in must not happen.
Go . . . (choke) . . . Trump.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/05/ive_changed_my_mind_about_donald_trump.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/05/ive_changed_my_mind_about_donald_trump.html)
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When I read this, I couldn't help but think of a few of our own here at the x.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/05/ive_changed_my_mind_about_donald_trump.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/05/ive_changed_my_mind_about_donald_trump.html)
Emphasis on Hillary appointing justices that will make it very easy to "get things done". People are really underselling that point.
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I read somewhere that someone thinks that Hillary gets elected, Obama lets the justice dept release the information that's gets her indicted before she is sworn in. The supreme court in an emergency meeting voids her election. Obama claims for the betterment of the nation he stay in office till another election can be held but with all the in fighting it could take years.
Black choppers and such BUT, I would not put it past him.
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As much as I dislike Trump, I do not consider him evil. And while his self-regard is obnoxious, I don't doubt he loves his country. There is a chance he'll name conservatives to sit on the Supreme Court. Perhaps he'll nominate John Bolton for State and Giuliani or even Christie for Attorney General. We might finally learn what Holder and Lynch have been hiding for years. Sure, a lot of maybes, but with the Donald at least they're possibilities.
What I've been saying for months.
Hillary cannot be president. Whatever has to happen to stop that? Has to happen.
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I read somewhere that someone thinks that Hillary gets elected, Obama lets the justice dept release the information that's gets her indicted before she is sworn in. The supreme court in an emergency meeting voids her election. Obama claims for the betterment of the nation he stay in office till another election can be held but with all the in fighting it could take years.
Black choppers and such BUT, I would not put it past him.
Go sit in the corner with bottomfeeder. Fuck's sake.
As much as I dislike Trump, I do not consider him evil. And while his self-regard is obnoxious, I don't doubt he loves his country. There is a chance he'll name conservatives to sit on the Supreme Court. Perhaps he'll nominate John Bolton for State and Giuliani or even Christie for Attorney General. We might finally learn what Holder and Lynch have been hiding for years. Sure, a lot of maybes, but with the Donald at least they're possibilities.
What I've been saying for months.
Hillary cannot be president. Whatever has to happen to stop that? Has to happen.
I don't think he's evil...just entirely unfit for public office. Especially unfit for the White House.
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Go sit in the corner with bottomfeeder. Fuck's sake.
I don't think he's evil...just entirely unfit for public office. Especially unfit for the White House.
Hey, if The Terminator and The Body can be Governors of Cali and Minnie, The Donald might pull it off too.
No long diatribe on Trump. He scares the hell out of me for the simple fact that even if he gets in, is there any way he gets the cooperation needed to accomplish a damn thing? I will say after watching parts of his interview with Megyn Kelly and reading more of his comments from that interview later, he seems to be ever so slightly coming around and realizing the gravity of what's going on.
I just don't know if he would ever let his ego allow someone with political common sense to act as advisor and actually listen to them. Stop with the circus and give even, measured responses.
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Hey, if The Terminator and The Body can be Governors of Cali and Minnie, The Donald might pull it off too.
No long diatribe on Trump. He scares the hell out of me for the simple fact that even if he gets in, is there any way he gets the cooperation needed to accomplish a damn thing? I will say after watching parts of his interview with Megyn Kelly and reading more of his comments from that interview later, he seems to be ever so slightly coming around and realizing the gravity of what's going on.
I just don't know if he would ever let his ego allow someone with political common sense to act as advisor and actually listen to them. Stop with the circus and give even, measured responses.
Wes said it best.
Neither Bernie nor Trump are likely to get their wacky ideas implemented.
For that reason and that reason alone either is a better choice than Cersi Clinton.
Yes. She is Cersi. Or worse.
Bernie is pycelle.
Donald is Tyrion.
There is no Ned Stark. No Dany. No Jon. No Robert. No Renly. No Robb. No Roose.
Vote Tyrion.
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Wes said it best.
Neither Bernie nor Trump are likely to get their wacky ideas implemented.
For that reason and that reason alone either is a better choice than Cersi Clinton.
Yes. She is Cersi. Or worse.
Bernie is pycelle.
Donald is Tyrion.
There is no Ned Stark. No Dany. No Jon. No Robert. No Renly. No Robb. No Roose.
Vote Tyrion.
All dependent on getting the house and the Scotus in your favor. The GOP is closer to that than the dems.
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I've got an in-grown hair on my scotus. Hurts like hell but I'm too embarrassed to go to the doc about it.
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Wes said it best.
Neither Bernie nor Trump are likely to get their wacky ideas implemented.
For that reason and that reason alone either is a better choice than Cersi Clinton.
Yes. She is Cersi. Or worse.
Bernie is pycelle.
Donald is Tyrion.
There is no Ned Stark. No Dany. No Jon. No Robert. No Renly. No Robb. No Roose.
Vote Tyrion.
For the IMP!
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My claim was that they feel this is the case and have been led by the media (or their churches or radio show hosts or whatever) to believe that their way of life is in danger.
And...just because I'm feeling argumentative. Let's focus on this quote. They "feel" this way.
So, an entire political movement is based upon their feels? Do they need a safe space?
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So, an entire political movement is based upon their feels? Do they need a safe space?
Black lives matter.
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Black lives matter.
Per THS...
conservative, Christian white people - mostly males
JOKES!!!! We clarified that I mistook your post much earlier in this thread.
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Doesn't matter who wins.
Neither candidate is fit for office.
Neither candidate will do anything that will affect your life in anyway that the other one wouldn't.
One of these scumbags will get elected and their cronies will get rich. Either way, you will not.
You will get up the day after the election and nothing will change.
Get over yourselves.
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I've got an in-grown hair on my scotus. Hurts like hell but I'm too embarrassed to go to the doc about it.
I pinched my left scotus in my jeans over the weekend. It still hurts like hell. I think I might have really damaged it.
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Doesn't matter who wins.
Neither candidate is fit for office.
Neither candidate will do anything that will affect your life in anyway that the other one wouldn't.
One of these scumbags will get elected and their cronies will get rich. Either way, you will not.
You will get up the day after the election and nothing will change.
Get over yourselves.
I thought the Donald's cronies were already rich. No?
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I've got an in-grown hair on my scotus. Hurts like hell but I'm too embarrassed to go to the doc about it.
Tweezers and rubbing alcohol always hel...I mean yeah that's too bad man.
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Wes and Chizad wrongly think Trump is the worst possible option.
I correctly know there is no worse option than hellary.
They will never change my mind. If they would remove head from ass I could change theirs. But they won't.
Therein lies the impasse, one which will never be bridged.
So we can stop now.
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Doesn't matter who wins.
Neither candidate is fit for office.
Neither candidate will do anything that will affect your life in anyway that the other one wouldn't.
One of these scumbags will get elected and their cronies will get rich. Either way, you will not.
You will get up the day after the election and nothing will change.
Get over yourselves.
:facepalm:
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:facepalm:
Optimist ain't he?
Just like that Reagan guy thought he could help mortgage interest rates come back down. Of all the nerve.
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I thought the Donald's cronies were already rich. No?
Difference is the Donald cronies are rich from the private sector. The Clinton cronies are rich from being career politicians and gaining power from the poor people they supposedly relate to.
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Difference is the Donald cronies are rich from the private sector. The Clinton cronies are rich from being career politicians and gaining power from the poor people they supposedly relate to.
Kind of my point. What are they to gain from LT's cockamamie pessimistic scenario?
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And...just because I'm feeling argumentative. Let's focus on this quote. They "feel" this way.
So, an entire political movement is based upon their feels? Do they need a safe space?
Do you know what if feels like when you gotta pee really bad? You do? Well, hey, feel of me and see if I have to.
:rofl:
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Optimist ain't he?
Just like that Reagan guy thought he could help mortgage interest rates come back down. Of all the nerve.
I don't think young people today even realize the mess that we were in back then. Can you imagine telling one of them today that their interest rate will be above 10%!
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I don't think young people today even realize the mess that we were in back then. Can you imagine telling one of them today that their interest rate will be above 10%!
Bought my first house. 30 years at 10.5%.
Although, a lot has changed since last year.
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I don't think young people today even realize the mess that we were in back then. Can you imagine telling one of them today that their interest rate will be above 10%!
I'm sure in 1979/80 someone said "it don't matter which one is elected, were all screwed! Nothing will change!"
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I'm sure in 1979/80 someone said "it don't matter which one is elected, were all screwed! Nothing will change!"
I can tell you who did not say that....The Warden. I was only single digits when peanut head got elected and I learned more words from the Warden about Carter's presidency than Mrs Warden cared for me to know then or 20 years after then.
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I can tell you who did not say that....The Warden. I was only single digits when peanut head got elected and I learned more words from the Warden about Carter's presidency than Mrs Warden cared for me to know then or 20 years after then.
https://youtu.be/yj3DBcpfMNQ
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I don't think young people today even realize the mess that we were in back then. Can you imagine telling one of them today that their interest rate will be above 10%!
They would all need to run to safe areas.
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I can tell you who did not say that....The Warden. I was only single digits when peanut head got elected and I learned more words from the Warden about Carter's presidency than Mrs Warden cared for me to know then or 20 years after then.
My old man was a democrat until the fiasco of the Carter administration. Jimmah cured him of that malady.
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My old man was a democrat until the fiasco of the Carter administration. Jimmah cured him of that malady.
My first presidential election to vote in. I voted for :facepalm:
My father started hating me then. :haha:
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My first presidential election to vote in. I voted for :facepalm:
My father started hating me then. :haha:
You voted for tubs in 1980? Well, no wonder he hated you. He knew before we did that the keenness was just a fascade. FYI - tubs wasn't even running for potus in 1980 you dumbass. Jokes on you.
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You voted for tubs in 1980? Well, no wonder he hated you. He knew before we did that the keenness was just a fascade. FYI - tubs wasn't even running for potus in 1980 you dumbass. Jokes on you.
back further. 1977 :getoff:
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And as I've said before, do a Twitter search for any racist/homophobic/misogonystic/antisemetic term and I guarantee you 95% of the results are from accounts with Trump avatars. Or search "cuck" and see whatever it is they're responding to. He frequently retweets Nazi accounts (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-retweets-apparent-neo-nazi-the-second-time-year) and Brietbart publishes stories about "Renegade Jews" (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/15/bill-kristol-republican-spoiler-renegade-jew/) out to thwart his campaign. The campaign workers featured in a PBS documentary about the election HAVE NEO NAZI TATTOOS (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-trump-bigotry-popular-article-1.2567796). And how many dozens of clearly racist incidents (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/list-racist-things-trump-rallies_us_56d7019ae4b0871f60ed519f) have occurred at his rallies from getting spit on to bloodied up while the whole crowd cheer and shout the N-word? This shit is not made up. The left have used terms like "dog whistles" to apply to the right in the past, and I've taken your stance. Trump is different. With Trump, it's actually very clearly true that he is intentionally catering to these dregs of society, and even if you don't think THAT'S true, it's pretty undeniable that they unanimously vocally support him.
No evidence of a pattern of antisemitism from his supporters right?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/05/19/new-york-times-staffer-tweets-out-op-ed-critical-of-trump-faces-anti-semitic-avalanche/
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No evidence of a pattern of antisemitism from his supporters right?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/05/19/new-york-times-staffer-tweets-out-op-ed-critical-of-trump-faces-anti-semitic-avalanche/
Lalalalala.
I don't care.
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No evidence of a pattern of antisemitism from his supporters right?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/05/19/new-york-times-staffer-tweets-out-op-ed-critical-of-trump-faces-anti-semitic-avalanche/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/05/19/new-york-times-staffer-tweets-out-op-ed-critical-of-trump-faces-anti-semitic-avalanche/)
I can deal with anti-semites....
It's the damn commies that will ruin our country!
When the so-called "educated" worry more about anti-semitism than they do about communism.... :classic:
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I can deal with anti-semites....
It's the damn commies that will ruin our country!
When the so-called "educated" worry more about anti-semitism than they do about communism.... :classic:
Bingo.
We've got a dusty euro-trash lying twat and a deranged socialist anteater on the democratic side and some people are fretting over alleged anti jew tweets from a handful of people.
Could not care less if I tried.
So what if people who have those views back Trump? Lots of rednecks and Bama fans like BBQ. So do I. Doesn't make me a resneck or a Bama fan.
He should give it a rest. Hes going to give himself a mental hernia and not change a single thing. Nobody will be swayed by his posts.
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I always wondered how Germany could possibly let a guy like Hitler rise to power.
Now I know.
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I always wondered how Germany could possibly let a guy like Hitler rise to power.
Now I know.
Before they were Nazis they were democrat?
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I always wondered how Germany could possibly let a guy like Hitler rise to power.
Now I know.
Because people threw their votes away on a futile third party candidacy?
Or because they voted for a corrupt power-mad, lying psychopath like Hillary?
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Because people threw their votes away on a futile third party candidacy?
Or because they voted for a corrupt power-mad, lying psychopath like Hillary?
Its like we had the same thought at the same time, but said it differently.
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Bingo.
We've got a dusty euro-trash lying twat and a deranged socialist anteater on the democratic side and some people are fretting over alleged anti jew tweets from a handful of people.
When I first started reading this I thought you were talking about Chizad and Wes.
You were not, were you?
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Master-panderer tells NRA that Hillary wants to abolish the 2nd amendment.
https://twitter.com/ReutersLive/status/733731614300065793
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Master-panderer tells NRA that Hillary wants to abolish the 2nd amendment.
https://twitter.com/ReutersLive/status/733731614300065793
She does. But not directly. She'll chip away at it from a variety of angles until the amendment -- which will remain -- will be toothless.
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Master-panderer tells NRA that Hillary wants to abolish the 2nd amendment.
https://twitter.com/ReutersLive/status/733731614300065793
You confuse me. You're totally ok with the game of bullshit Hillary is "playing" to beat Bernie, but Trump is "master panderer"?
Looks like he's playing the same bullshit game you seemed to be fine with the other day.
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She does. But not directly. She'll chip away at it from a variety of angles until the amendment -- which will remain -- will be toothless.
http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/05/20/dont-trust-trumps-nra-backed-promises/
Don’t Trust Trump’s NRA Backed Promises
By: Brandon Morse
“Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.â€
It’s a phrase nerds know that keeps going through my head when I see promises made, and statements stated, and many words from good brains are spoken during the general election. While technically Trump isn’t the Republican nominee yet, the reality is that he’s the last man standing, and now he has Hillary to face.
So with a good chunk of the Republican party now AWOL due to promising that they’ll never vote for an authoritarian with an anger problem, Trump is left to do what he can to pad his voting base. He can approach disaffected Bernie voters, but it might not be enough.
He needs to win back would be Republican voters.
So of course he’s going to get up on a stage provided by the much Republican loved NRA, and say words that even make me turn and look at him fondly. It’s great to hear that we won’t have any more gun free zones. It’s cool to hear someone say that they’ll fight for 2A tooth and nail. He scratched every itch a gun rights loving person could want scratched.
As a man who loves his guns, and think they’re a key to a prosperous and safe civilization, Trump’s promises are like whipped cream on a chocolate dipped strawberry.
But as our own Susan Wright pointed out, many of these promises ring hollow. This is the same man who supported a gun ban before it was politically inconvenient to do so. This is a man who was in full agreement with Obama when it came to Newtown
Let’s remember that this is the same Trump that declared every one of his promises were merely suggestions. Everything from his SCOTUS picks, to his Muslim ban, to his ev-er-y-thing.
If we didn’t believe him about his sudden right-wing-swing from his leftism before, we sure as shoot (pun intended) shouldn’t believe his words when spoken in front of a huge NRA screen. His “gun free zone†promise is worth just as much as everything else he’s promised, and walked back on, so far.
As I said, this is the general now, despite it not being officially yet. Trump will say whatever is necessary to make any ex-Republicans return in order to cement his seat of power.
Remember, “Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.â€
I think Bruce Carrol summed it up nicely.
I'm #NeverTrump always.
Not just when he's being an asshole.
Not when he's on his best behavior.
Not when his poll numbers are high.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/20/nra-endorsed-trump-said-in-2012-obama-spoke-for-me-when-sandy-hook-happened.html
NRA-Endorsed Trump Said In 2012 ‘Obama Spoke For Me’ When Sandy Hook Happened
In the direct aftermath of the horrific Newtown school shooting in 2012, Donald Trump proudly stood with President Obama, shortly before the president would start his legislative standoff with the National Rifle Association.
“President Obama spoke for me and every American in his remarks in [Newtown,] Connecticut,†Trump tweeted on December 17, 2012, just one day after Obama had declared there was no “excuse for inaction†on gun-violence prevention measures.
Three and a half years later, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee strutted on stage at the NRA’s convention in Kentucky to stand with the NRA, bash Obama and the Democrats, and enthusiastically accept their presidential endorsement.
“I will not let you down,†Trump told the pro-gun crowd on Friday afternoon, thanking them for the “fantastic honor†of their endorsement. The NRA’s chief lobbyist Chris Cox had just introduced the real estate mogul as “the next President of the United States.â€
Trump continued to whip the crowd into a frenzy by explaining how Hillary Clinton would “strip away†Americans’ gun rights, and how President Trump would make “getting rid of gun-free zones†a top priority.
Trump’s past squishiness on—if not hostility toward—the NRA’s hardline agenda is well known and well documented. But that hasn’t stopped him from rebranding himself lately as a major champion, if not savior, for the Second Amendment and the excesses that come with it.
“If I run for president, and if I win, the Second Amendment will. Be. Totally. Protected. That I can tell you,†Trump told the annual NRA gathering last year.
It’s not a surprise that Trump would jettison any hint of a moderate position on guns while running for president and seeking the NRA’s coveted endorsement. In a post-Sandy Hook political environment, the NRA has since kicked into high gear to quash anything even slightly resembling real gun reform.
Right around the time Trump had praised Obama for his leadership in the direct aftermath of the Newtown massacre, the NRA was busy telling America that Obama—like a tyrant or a dictator—was coming to take their guns.
The gun lobby also threw every scare tactic and culture-war trope they knew at the wall, hoping most of it would stick.
“I mean we have blood-soaked films out there, like American Psycho, Natural Born Killers—they’re aired like propaganda loops on Splatterdays and every single day,†NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre said in his post-Sandy Hook press conference in December 2012.
Throughout the years, he and his organization have routinely maintained that the proliferation of guns in America is basically all that is standing between you and the terrorists and “rapers.â€
“There are terrorists and home invaders and drug cartels and carjackers and knockout gamers and rapers, haters, campus killers, airport killers, shopping mall killers, road-rage killers, and killers who scheme to destroy our country with massive storms of violence against our power grids, or vicious waves of chemicals or disease that could collapse the society that sustains us all,†LaPierre ranted against in 2014.
And now the NRA has their candidate for 2016: a man today insisted that “the Second Amendment is under threat like never before,†and that his Democratic opponent is “the most anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment candidate ever to run for office.â€
“The Second Amendment is on the ballot in November,†Trump said as he accepted the NRA’s endorsement on Friday.
“The only way to save our Second Amendment is to vote for a person that you all know named Donald Trump,†he insisted.
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You confuse me. You're totally ok with the game of bullshit Hillary is "playing" to beat Bernie, but Trump is "master panderer"?
Looks like he's playing the same bullshit game you seemed to be fine with the other day.
I was being sarcastic about the "master" part. He didn't nuance the pandering at all: he identified the audience's apocalyptic scenario (total abolishment of the 2nd Amendment...never going to happy, by the way) and he laid it at his opponent's feet.
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So much for y'all's little theory...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/data-backs-argument-trump-not-140041120.html
There is more evidence now casting doubt on Donald Trump’s claim that he is expanding the Republican Party.
Additional data from the GOP primary shows that increased turnout in several primary states was driven largely byalready-active Republican voters who have historically skipped primaries and voted only in general elections .
Trump has boasted that he is drawing new voters to the political process and to the GOP. And the theory of how he might overcome the Democrats’ growing demographic advantage in key swing states where white voters are no longer dominant majorities rests on the assumption that nontraditional voters, many from the white working class, have been flocking to the polls for the first time in their lives in order to cast their votes for Trump.
Primary election statistics collected by Politico this week first cast doubt on that claim. And now new data – voter files combined with field polling from these states collected by a Republican data analysis firm that worked for Sen. Marco Rubio’s (R-FL) presidential campaign – lend more weight to the conclusion that Trump’s candidacy is not game-changing, or particularly well-positioned for the general election.
There is a significant caveat to all this, an unknown that can’t be measured. Even if Trump’s support has come from traditional Republican voters, is the fact that so many individuals who don’t usually vote in primaries did so predictive of a wave of entirely new voters who will come to the polls in November? It’s possible. The general election is a far bigger event than any one state’s primary, so participation is easier for voters who don’t follow politics as closely as those who vote in primaries.
And of course, the other significant question is whether likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton can turn out as many voters as President Obama did in 2008 and 2012. This, also, is a big hurdle.
What is clear is, the data so far do indicate that Trump has not yet significantly grown the Republican Party. There are small numbers of new voters who came to the polls this year, and in one state — New Hampshire — that might be enough to help Trump win. But in several other swing states — Virginia, Ohio, and Michigan — if the Democrats can reassemble the Obama coalition, Trump’s new support is not enough to win.
0ptimus , the data and analytics firm that worked for Rubio, focused its analysis on a few key states.
In Virginia, there was a stunning turnout in the Republican primary on March 1. More than three times the number of primary voters in 2012 came to the polls, a total of 1,025,452.
Of that total, 18.6 percent, or 190,734, were regular primary voters. But they were swamped by voters who usually only participate in general elections. That group made up 72.1 percent of the Republican primary electorate in Virginia. Younger voters who weren’t eligible for previous elections and those who moved into the state made up 3.6 percent.
Only 5.7 percent of the more than 1 million primary voters were new voters. That’s a total of 58,450 new voters.
To put that in perspective, look at the 2012 general election. In 2012 in Virginia, President Obama defeated Republican nominee Mitt Romney by almost 150,000 votes. Obama received 1,971,820 votes to Romney’s 1,822,522.
So if you add the nearly 60,000 votes to a Republican nominee, but the Democrat recreates Obama’s turnout — which, again, is not a sure thing — then the Republican is still 90,000 votes short.
And keep in mind that the Virginia primary was one of the most closely contested in the GOP race. Trump won the state, but with only one-third of the vote. He got 356,840 votes but Rubio, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Ohio Gov. John Kasich and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson received a combined 657,080 votes.
Many of those Republican voters will turn out for Trump against Clinton even if they opposed him in the primary. But some number won’t.
To go further, Optimus looked at the results of almost 4,000 telephone surveys they did around the time of the primary. Using those responses, they built a model of the Virginia electorate, and found that of the 72 percent of voters who were new to the primary but usually voted in the general election, “the vast majority†were voters who were likely to support a Republican candidate already.
This confirmed that the “new†primary voters were almost all regular Republican voters who usually just cast ballots in a general election in the fall . They are not first-time voters or traditionally Democratic-leaning individuals who crossed over.
The same dynamic occurred when 0ptimus looked at Ohio. The Buckeye State saw 1,988,960 people come to the polls for the Republican primary this year, up from 1,213,879 in 2012 and 1,095,917 in 2008. Of those, some 53.6 percent were regular primary voters, and 36.8 percent were regular general election voters. Only 5.9 percent were new voters, yielding a total of roughly 118,000 votes.
Romney lost Ohio in 2012 by 166,000 votes, so while 118,000 new voters would get Trump closer to winning if Clinton maintains the Obama number, it wouldn’t get him over the top.
The same scenario played out in Michigan, where there were a lot of new voters this year, about 119,000. Even so, Romney lost that state in 2012 by 450,000 votes.
In New Hampshire, there were 37,000 new voters, and Romney only lost by 39,000 in 2012. That was the one state surveyed by 0ptimus where Trump’s primary election numbers indicated a better chance of winning there than Romney had in 2012. But flipping New Hampshire into the Republican column would not be nearly enough to win the 270 Electoral College votes required to secure the presidency.
The authors of the paper from 0ptimus concluded: “The increase in presidential primary turnout should give little comfort to the GOP as it looks ahead to November’s general election.â€
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/elections-2016-donald-trump-worth-reveals-in-deposition-tim-obrien-lawsuit-2006/
In lawsuit deposition, Trump repeatedly called out for exaggerating wealth
In a weekend interview, Hillary Clinton said the only way to know whether Donald Trump is "really successful" is if he reveals his tax returns.
Forbes magazine estimates Trump is worth $4.5 billion, but Trump's latest financial disclosure, filed last week, said he's worth more than $10 billion.
In 2005, New York Times reporter Tim O'Brien claimed in a book called "Trump Nation" that Trump was worth at best $250 million, when Trump and others said he was a billionaire. Trump sued the reporter for over $2 billion, but the lawsuit opened him up to a close scrutiny of his finances, reports CBS News correspondent Julianna Goldman.
When he filed the 2006 lawsuit, Trump claimed that a major part of his success was based on the "accurate perception by the financial community and public that [he] is a billionaire."
During a two-day deposition, he was repeatedly called out for exaggerating his wealth -- like when Trump told Larry King he was paid $1 million for a speech to The Learning Annex. But in the deposition, Trump conceded the actual payment was $400,000. The rest he attributed to The Learning Annex's promotional expenses.
During questioning, he acknowledged he didn't fully explain how he came up with the million dollar value.
"I don't break it down," Trump said.
The discrepancies between what Trump says his net worth is and what others estimate it to be often rests on the valuation of his brand. Over the years, Trump's international real estate developments have grown, but many of those buildings are licensed and not owned.
In 2014, Trump said his brand was worth $3.3 billion. Last year, Forbes magazine listed it at $125 million.
Behind closed doors, Trump conceded property values are often subjective.
"You said that the net worth goes up and down based upon your own feelings?" he was asked in the deposition.
"Yes, even my own feelings, as to where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day," Trump responded.
In the deposition, the attorney presented estimates of his net worth by two banks where Trump had applied for lines of credit. Both concluded Trump was worth about a third of the $3.5 billion he claimed in 2005.
Trump said the numbers were wrong and the banks did not do an exhaustive search of his assets.
On the campaign trail Trump boasts that he is not a politician, but under oath, he said he spins his business like any politician.
"Have you ever lied in public... about your properties?" he was asked.
"I try and be truthful," he said. "You always - when you are making a public statement - you want to say it the most positive way possible. I'm no different from a politician running for office."
One area where Trump has broken with previous presidential candidates is refusing to release his tax returns, which would provide a fuller picture of his wealth and document his income in far greater detail than the financial disclosures he's already released.
"I think that to get a full idea of who he is, those returns are an essential piece," said former IRS commissioner Mark Everson, who served under President George W. Bush.
Everson said Trump's excuse that he's being audited doesn't pass muster.
"He doesn't have a tax reason in my opinion to fail to release those seven years that have been audited and cleared," Everson said. "I think this is a political calculation by the candidate not to release the returns."
In response to this report, Trump told CBS News in a statement: "Timothy O'Brien knows nothing about me. His book was a total failure. I haven't even heard his name in over a decade, but ultimately I had great success doing what I wanted to do -- costing this third rate reporter a lot of legal fees."
A spokesman for Trump said the original book wasn't relevant then and it's not now.
"Mr. Trump has just filed the largest personal financial disclosure form in the history of the FEC, which shows among the greatest real estate assets in the world, very low debt, tremendous cash flow and an income statement showing $557 million per year. Mr. Trump's net worth is in excess of $10 billion. The Trump brand is more valuable and popular now than ever before and Timothy O'Brien's book, which wasn't relevant, accurate or successful a decade ago, certainly isn't relevant now."
Trump's 2006 lawsuit was dismissed. He appealed and lost the appeal.
Is there anything this guy doesn't lie/exaggerate about himself?
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Are you ever going to realize that if he were a gecko painted purple, he's still an exponentially better choice than that fucking bitch whore Hillary?
I don't care what he's said or done in the past. You're wasting the whole Internet with all these (predictable) media attacks.
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So much for y'all's little theory...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/data-backs-argument-trump-not-140041120.html
Do you realize just how fucking STUPID that article is?
Trump didn't bring new voters. But more people voted in the primary. And more people voted for him than any candidate in history. But they weren't new voters.
And if Hillary can get all the people who voted for Obama to vote for her, plus a few more, she might still win!
Fuck you for posting that idiotic drivel. And fuck me for reading any of it.
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Are you ever going to realize that if he were a gecko painted purple, he's still an exponentially better choice than that fucking bitch whore Hillary?
I don't care what he's said or done in the past. You're wasting the whole Internet with all these (predictable) media attacks.
Translation
"YOU REALIZE I'M A BRAINWASHED IDIOT THAT WILL LITERALLY ELECT HITLER OR KIM JONG IL BECAUSE REPUBLICAN!!!"
Yes. I realize that. You seem to think it's a virtue. It makes you a braindead idiot. And dangerous.
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Translation
"YOU REALIZE I'M A BRAINWASHED IDIOT THAT WILL LITERALLY ELECT HITLER OR KIM JONG IL BECAUSE REPUBLICAN!!!"
Yes. I realize that. You seem to think it's a virtue. It makes you a braindead idiot. And dangerous.
Sounds just like the people voting for Hillary, also.
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Translation
"YOU REALIZE I'M A BRAINWASHED IDIOT THAT WILL LITERALLY ELECT HITLER OR KIM JONG IL BECAUSE REPUBLICAN!!!"
Yes. I realize that. You seem to think it's a virtue. It makes you a braindead idiot. And dangerous.
I'm not a Republican. I vote for whoever I think will do the best job or be the least damaging. I voted against empty-suit Obama. All the reasons I opposed him have come to pass. I was right. I voted against him twice. Not because I am a Republican but because I thought his background and his vision for how he wanted to remake the country was flat wrong. He's worse than I imagined he would have been.
I voted for Bush before him despite grave misgivings (I'd met the guy and thought he was singularly unimpressive). But Gore was a raving lunatic. And Kerry was a pussified liar. I couldn't vote for either of them even though I was no big fan of Bush.
I actually wanted Rudy G. Not because he was a Republican but I saw what he did in New York, saw his leadership during 911 and thought he'd be one of the best presidents of my lifetime. But the media didn't want him and he made some really bad choices (not policy choices, just where to spend his campaign dollars). Media wanted Gore and figured he'd have an easier time with Bush. But he was unelectable.
You're trolling right along with the left-skewed media and thinking all these "reports" and opinions are somehow valid. That moronic thing you posted about Hillary keeping all of Obama's votes, therefore Trump didn't bring anybody to the party was an enormous pile of dung. Garbage. It shows how stupid and desperate the media is to find some negative.
I thought you were smarter than that. Why are you buying their bullshit in bulk and passing on the treason committed by Hellary? Why are you ignoring her husband's 20-something trips with a pedophile to "orgy island?" She knew. Why are you dismissing the fact that she deleted thousands of incriminating emails? That she lied to Congress? That she got Americans killed by her indifference as Secretary of State? She's a criminal. Any one of those things is a thousand times worse than the combined total of "well Trump sold steaks, and thought he had more money than he did, and uhhhh, isn't getting more votes even though he is..." fucking idiocy you keep posting. Any one of them is exponentially worse.
But you keep on posting the Trump shit if it makes you feel better.
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Why are you ignoring her husband's 20-something trips with a pedophile to "orgy island?" She knew.
First of all, this scandal is inferring a lot about Bill's actual involvement in any of that shit just because Epstein was a donor and they rubbed elbows. Until I see photographic proof of Bill fucking a 13 year old, consider me a skeptic.
But if you believe that Clinton MUST have been involved in "Pedophile Island", you must also believe Trump did. But lemme guess. It's only a problem that the presidential candidate's HUSBAND may have been involved in that scandal, but not the guy actually running for president? Guilt by association is worse than actual guilt right? Or are you cherry picking so that only Bill is guilty but not Donald based on the same reports and court documents?
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo
The Republican presumptive nominee apparently got in on the action, too. Trump’s ties to Epstein — a man Trump once called a “terrific guy†— and Sex Slave Island have been chronicled by The Daily Wire here.
Per The Political Insider, Trump is accused of threatening and raping a 13-year-old girl on the private island. Epstein is also named in the suit for sexual misconduct.
Why are you dismissing the fact that she deleted thousands of incriminating emails? That she lied to Congress? That she got Americans killed by her indifference as Secretary of State? She's a criminal.
I'm not dismissing those things. They are very troubling, and I've stated such on here multiple times.
The Benghazi thing is certainly not nothing as some on the left have purported, but I think there's a lot of fucked up shit that goes on in the fog of war and hindsight is 20/20. I'm not outright defending it, I just think that lost of similarly fucked up incidents happened under Bush/Petraeus but Fox News isn't pushing those incidents into your earhole so you're not outraged by them. And you seem to think that the guy who flat-out said he would force the military to commit war crime after war crime (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trump-says-hed-force-us-military-commit-war/) would be better about this. I think that is an illogical assumption.
The deletion of private emails off of her home server is a bigger problem to me, to be honest. That is a major security violation and scrubbing her servers implies guilt of a coverup of something, and at BEST is a clear "fuck you" to the interest of government transparency. You seem to think that the guy who threatens to sue every Tom, Dick, and Harry that questions or challenges him about anything ever with lawsuits or "spilling the beans on their wife" or other libelous threats (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/22/trump-ricketts-family-better-careful/80761060/) and flat out said he would do away with freedom of the press (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html) going to be better about transparency. I think that is an illogical assumption.
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First of all, this scandal is inferring a lot about Bill's actual involvement in any of that shit just because Epstein was a donor and they rubbed elbows. Until I see photographic proof of Bill fucking a 13 year old, consider me a skeptic.
But if you believe that Clinton MUST have been involved in "Pedophile Island", you must also believe Trump did. But lemme guess. It's only a problem that the presidential candidate's HUSBAND may have been involved in that scandal, but not the guy actually running for president? Guilt by association is worse than actual guilt right? Or are you cherry picking so that only Bill is guilty but not Donald based on the same reports and court documents?
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo
I'm not dismissing those things. They are very troubling, and I've stated such on here multiple times.
The Benghazi thing is certainly not nothing as some on the left have purported, but I think there's a lot of fucked up shit that goes on in the fog of war and hindsight is 20/20. I'm not outright defending it, I just think that lost of similarly fucked up incidents happened under Bush/Petraeus but Fox News isn't pushing those incidents into your earhole so you're not outraged by them. And you seem to think that the guy who flat-out said he would force the military to commit war crime after war crime (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trump-says-hed-force-us-military-commit-war/) would be better about this. I think that is an illogical assumption.
The deletion of private emails off of her home server is a bigger problem to me, to be honest. That is a major security violation and scrubbing her servers implies guilt of a coverup of something, and at BEST is a clear "fuck you" to the interest of government transparency. You seem to think that the guy who threatens to sue every Tom, Dick, and Harry that questions or challenges him about anything ever with lawsuits or "spilling the beans on their wife" or other libelous threats (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/22/trump-ricketts-family-better-careful/80761060/) and flat out said he would do away with freedom of the press (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html) going to be better about transparency. I think that is an illogical assumption.
The fact that you think deleting E-mails is bigger than the loss of 4 American lives says a lot about you.
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The fact that you think deleting E-mails is bigger than the loss of 4 American lives says a lot about you.
I think it's a clearer case of malicious intent.
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I think it's a clearer case of malicious intent.
Just like you clearly have a case of the gobblesgoobers.
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First of all, this scandal is inferring a lot about Bill's actual involvement in any of that shit just because Epstein was a donor and they rubbed elbows. Until I see photographic proof of Bill fucking a 13 year old, consider me a skeptic.
Rubbing elbows is much different than "rubbing wieners"
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html
Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express†-- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com. The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.
But if you believe that Clinton MUST have been involved in "Pedophile Island", you must also believe Trump did. But lemme guess. It's only a problem that the presidential candidate's HUSBAND may have been involved in that scandal, but not the guy actually running for president? Guilt by association is worse than actual guilt right? Or are you cherry picking so that only Bill is guilty but not Donald based on the same reports and court documents?
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo
Really? Do you even read the bullshit you're peddling? Trump "allegedly" flew on his jet once. In 2004. No records to prove it other than one guy saying he did. Clinton most certainly did. More than 20 times.
Trump is ser-prise, ser-prise, ser-prise! being sued now for something that supposedly happened in 1994. Who'd have guessed that was going to happen?
Trump said this guy was a good dude, fun to be around. Let's find all the people who said that about Jared from Subway before they found out what he was doing privately. Or Bill Cosby. Or AJ McCarron.
I'm not dismissing those things. They are very troubling, and I've stated such on here multiple times.
You're dismissing them by focusing on things that don't matter. Did Trump brag about his big bankroll? Probably. So fucking what? Did he prank a reporter and pretend to be somebody else to brag on himself? Who gives a tiddly shit? That's not the same as ignoring the pleas of Americans for protection and then destroying evidence. That's not the same as bilking investors. And destroying evidence. That's not the same as the holes in Vince Foster's head. And destroyed evidence.
The Benghazi thing is certainly not nothing as some on the left have purported, but I think there's a lot of fucked up shit that goes on in the fog of war and hindsight is 20/20. I'm not outright defending it, I just think that lost of similarly fucked up incidents happened under Bush/Petraeus but Fox News isn't pushing those incidents into your earhole so you're not outraged by them. And you seem to think that the guy who flat-out said he would force the military to commit war crime after war crime (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trump-says-hed-force-us-military-commit-war/) would be better about this. I think that is an illogical assumption.
The typical Universatee of Alabammah response. Oh yeah? We cheated? Well, everybody does. Not saying it's right, but yall does it too. Do you think Auburn is completely clean? We know you probably payed Cam Newton1! And James Brooks couldn't even read!! Keep it down home cuz!! Haw!!
The EXACT same thing they always do.
Do I think the military makes mistakes? Sometimes. But not out of indifference. She did not give a fuck and could not be bothered. That's the difference.
Oh but Trump says!!! Do you think that concerns me in the least?
You're Fucking A right I'd rather have terrorists tortured than coddle them. Rather than releasing them as the Muslim Fuckhole in Chief seems determined to do. You can't have a big stick and never swing it. That's the sad reality. But I guess in your civilized mind, we should just talk to these lunatic fucks who want to murder us and explain why they shouldn't before we send them back home.
The deletion of private emails off of her home server is a bigger problem to me, to be honest. That is a major security violation and scrubbing her servers implies guilt of a coverup of something, and at BEST is a clear "fuck you" to the interest of government transparency. You seem to think that the guy who threatens to sue every Tom, Dick, and Harry that questions or challenges him about anything ever with lawsuits or "spilling the beans on their wife" or other libelous threats (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/22/trump-ricketts-family-better-careful/80761060/) and flat out said he would do away with freedom of the press (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html) going to be better about transparency. I think that is an illogical assumption.
Once again with the patented Bammer response.
Well, yeah, the deleted emails are a problem... But TRUMP says!!!
Do you think I fucking care if he threatens to sue anybody? If he stands up for his family against attacks by threatening people? There's something twistedly chivalrous about that, actually.
Funny that wes (and you) were all about the suing when we didn't like the new overtime rules. But Trump sues? Well fuck him!!!
You're fighting a losing battle. You actually lost a long time ago and I'm just humoring you, hoping you'll wake up.
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Rubbing elbows is much different than "rubbing wieners"
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html
Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express†-- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com. The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.
Really? Do you even read the bullshit you're peddling? Trump "allegedly" flew on his jet once. In 2004. No records to prove it other than one guy saying he did. Clinton most certainly did. More than 20 times.
Trump is ser-prise, ser-prise, ser-prise! being sued now for something that supposedly happened in 1994. Who'd have guessed that was going to happen?
Trump said this guy was a good dude, fun to be around. Let's find all the people who said that about Jared from Subway before they found out what he was doing privately. Or Bill Cosby. Or AJ McCarron.
That's what I thought you'd say. It's 100% fact that Clinton was involved in the kiddy-fucking because he rode the plane (no matter how many times, although it would stand to reason that it would be more since he is a donor), but for Trump it's just hearsay & slander. Ok...
You're dismissing them by focusing on things that don't matter. Did Trump brag about his big bankroll? Probably. So fucking what? Did he prank a reporter and pretend to be somebody else to brag on himself? Who gives a tiddly shit? That's not the same as ignoring the pleas of Americans for protection and then destroying evidence. That's not the same as bilking investors. And destroying evidence. That's not the same as the holes in Vince Foster's head. And destroyed evidence.
The typical Universatee of Alabammah response. Oh yeah? We cheated? Well, everybody does. Not saying it's right, but yall does it too. Do you think Auburn is completely clean? We know you probably payed Cam Newton1! And James Brooks couldn't even read!! Keep it down home cuz!! Haw!!
The EXACT same thing they always do.
Do I think the military makes mistakes? Sometimes. But not out of indifference. She did not give a fuck and could not be bothered. That's the difference.
Oh but Trump says!!! Do you think that concerns me in the least?
You're Fucking A right I'd rather have terrorists tortured than coddle them. Rather than releasing them as the Muslim Fuckhole in Chief seems determined to do. You can't have a big stick and never swing it. That's the sad reality. But I guess in your civilized mind, we should just talk to these lunatic fucks who want to murder us and explain why they shouldn't before we send them back home.
Once again with the patented Bammer response.
Well, yeah, the deleted emails are a problem... But TRUMP says!!!
Do you think I fucking care if he threatens to sue anybody? If he stands up for his family against attacks by threatening people? There's something twistedly chivalrous about that, actually.
Funny that wes (and you) were all about the suing when we didn't like the new overtime rules. But Trump sues? Well fuck him!!!
You're fighting a losing battle. You actually lost a long time ago and I'm just humoring you, hoping you'll wake up.
Completely oblivious to the fact that YOU are deploying that same "what-aboutism" except only one of us is actually full-throatedly defending either of these candidates.
You're the Bama fans bitching up a storm that Laremy Tunsil be punished by the NCAA, but it's ok when Saban pays players, PAAAWWWL, cause he wears Crimson. Or has an R behind his name.
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That's what I thought you'd say. It's 100% fact that Clinton was involved in the kiddy-fucking because he rode the plane (no matter how many times, although it would stand to reason that it would be more since he is a donor), but for Trump it's just hearsay & slander. Ok...
No proof Trump did, just one guy's "I think I remember..."
Proof that Clinton did, including the multiple times he ditched his security detail to go.
I never said Bill diddled kiddies, but he's a proven lothario with a lusty appetite. One is not 26.
Completely oblivious to the fact that YOU are deploying that same "what-aboutism" except only one of us is actually full-throatedly defending either of these candidates.
Nope. Just asking you why you're losing your shit over an alleged $500 handshake when T-Town Tom, Chargers, laptops, rental cars, house sitting, wheelz, coaches giving cash, and so on are out there. You raise hell about Trump pranking a reporter like it's concrete proof of his deceptive nature and whitewash the real bullshit going on with Hillary. You're the Bama fan. Sorry.
You're the Bama fans bitching up a storm that Laremy Tunsil be punished by the NCAA, but it's ok when Saban pays players, PAAAWWWL, cause he wears Crimson. Or has an R behind his name.
You got it backward hoss. You've wasted untold hours bashing Trump for nothing, really, when the real dirt is piled around the other camp. You're Clinton's Michael Casagrande. The worst.
I've told you a million times that whatever he may have done, it can't be worse than her. Nothing is. She is the most despicable human being alive today. But you keep on pounding the drum. Can't wait for tomorrow when you tell us all that in 1972 Trump only tipped a waiter 18%. Cheap bastard!!! How can he be president!!! !
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Look. This is ridiculous.
All I'm saying is that you apply the same shrieking microscopic intensity to everything that power drunk demon Hellary Clinton that you do Trump you'll come back and join the party train with us.
Hers is harder to find because you don't have herds of rabidly conservative journalists digging through every single word she's ever uttered like thr flocks of liberals are Trump.
But look. Stop ranting because Trump once sold steaks. Look hard. You'll come around.
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On another note, that Trump rally in Albuquerque was a real hoot last night, huh? People dancing in the streets.
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How many people were pissed when Obama was elected and reelected? How many riots did we see? How many people had wide spread clashes with law enforcement over his elections? How many people would riot if Hillary beats Trump this November? I would be pissed, but then I would get up the next day and go to work. I wouldn't burn a flag, I wouldn't protest in the streets, and I wouldn't vandalize anyone's property.
Fuck these motherfuckers acting like bitches who might not get their way this election. Fuck every single one of them. My job is going to suck balls if he gets elected because of this shit, but I won't feel bad for a single person who gets their asses thumped this November if they start breaking shit because election didn't go their way.
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How many people were pissed when Obama was elected and reelected? How many riots did we see? How many people had wide spread clashes with law enforcement over his elections? How many people would riot if Hillary beats Trump this November? I would be pissed, but then I would get up the next day and go to work. I wouldn't burn a flag, I wouldn't protest in the streets, and I wouldn't vandalize anyone's property.
Fuck these motherfuckers acting like bitches who might not get their way this election. Fuck every single one of them. My job is going to suck balls if he gets elected because of this shit, but I won't feel bad for a single person who gets their asses thumped this November if they start breaking shit because election didn't go their way.
^^^What this guy said^^^.
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What happened to Chizad? Do we need to send out a search party or has he just seen the error of his ways and is out buying Trump merchandise?
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What happened to Chizad? Do we need to send out a search party or has he just seen the error of his ways and is out buying Trump merchandise?
Patience young Jedi. It's a long drive back from Albuquerque.
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Patience young Jedi. It's a long drive back from Albuquerque.
Yeah, I took a right turn there once. Should have made a left.
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How many people were pissed when Obama was elected and reelected? How many riots did we see? How many people had wide spread clashes with law enforcement over his elections? How many people would riot if Hillary beats Trump this November? I would be pissed, but then I would get up the next day and go to work. I wouldn't burn a flag, I wouldn't protest in the streets, and I wouldn't vandalize anyone's property.
Fuck these motherfuckers acting like bitches who might not get their way this election. Fuck every single one of them. My job is going to suck balls if he gets elected because of this shit, but I won't feel bad for a single person who gets their asses thumped this November if they start breaking shit because election didn't go their way.
They don't have too.
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Yeah, I took a right turn there once. Should have made a left.
https://youtu.be/Awu7g7eQbdc
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https://youtu.be/Awu7g7eQbdc
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Gets the reference. Thanks.
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How many people were pissed when Obama was elected and reelected? How many riots did we see? How many people had wide spread clashes with law enforcement over his elections? How many people would riot if Hillary beats Trump this November? I would be pissed, but then I would get up the next day and go to work. I wouldn't burn a flag, I wouldn't protest in the streets, and I wouldn't vandalize anyone's property.
Fuck these motherfuckers acting like bitches who might not get their way this election. Fuck every single one of them. My job is going to suck balls if he gets elected because of this shit, but I won't feel bad for a single person who gets their asses thumped this November if they start breaking shit because election didn't go their way.
Just as we suspected, you just want Trump to win so that you can finally beat a protester.
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Just as we suspected, you just want Trump to win so that you can finally beat a protester.
And??
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How many people were pissed when Obama was elected and reelected? How many riots did we see? How many people had wide spread clashes with law enforcement over his elections? How many people would riot if Hillary beats Trump this November? I would be pissed, but then I would get up the next day and go to work. I wouldn't burn a flag, I wouldn't protest in the streets, and I wouldn't vandalize anyone's property.
Fuck these motherfuckers acting like bitches who might not get their way this election. Fuck every single one of them. My job is going to suck balls if he gets elected because of this shit, but I won't feel bad for a single person who gets their asses thumped this November if they start breaking shit because election didn't go their way.
Can I schedule a ride along that day....I have a new Louisville slugger that needs breaking in.
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Can I schedule a ride along that day....I have a new Louisville slugger that needs breaking in.
Izzat you, Negan?
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The democrat system is rigged. Bernie has def been screwed. It's a shame too. He should totally run 3rd party and show them. His votes count too folks. Totally rigged superdelegates. Go 3rd party Bernie!
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You've been provided plenty of other options, you simply dismiss them.
Trump won't be president...and that certainty helps me sleep at night.
Your military won't sleep better and that should concern you.
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Your military won't sleep better and that should concern you.
Oh what difference does it make?
It's just dead people. Sheesh. More important things in life to worry about like chicks that want dicks and women getting free birth control.
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Great endorsement here, guys.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary?CMP=twt_gu
North Korea praises Trump and urges US voters to reject 'dull Hillary'
State media outlet welcomes Republican candidate’s ‘far-sighted’ policies and suggestion that he will withdraw troops from Seoul
JH Ahn for NK News, part of the North Korea network
Tuesday 31 May 2016 07.26 EDT
North Korean state media has praised US presidential hopeful Donald Trump, describing him as a “wise politician†and “far-sighted candidate†who could help unify the Korean peninsula.
An editorial in DPRK Today, an official media outlet, welcomed the Republican presidential candidate’s proposal to hold direct talks with Kim Jong-un, saying he could help bring about Pyongyang’s “Yankee go home†policy.
“There are many positive aspects to Trump’s ‘inflammatory policies’,†wrote Han Yong-mook, who described himself as a Chinese North Korean scholar.
“Trump said he will not get involved in the war between the South and the North, isn’t this fortunate from North Korea’ perspective?â€
Analysts said that although the editorial was not officially from Pyongyang, it was sure to reflect thinking inside the regime.
“This is very striking,†said Aidan Foster-Carter of the University of Leeds. “Admittedly it is not exactly Pyongyang speaking, or at least not the DPRK government in an official capacity. But it is certainly Pyongyang flying a kite, or testing the waters.
“For the rest of us, this is a timely reminder – if it were needed – of just how completely Trump plans to tear up established US policy in the region.â€
The editorial referred to Trump’s speech in March, in which he suggested he would withdraw US military forces from Seoul if South Korea did not increase spending on defence.
“Yes do it, now … Who knew that the slogan ‘Yankee Go Home’ would come true like this? The day when the ‘Yankee Go Home’ slogan becomes real would be the day of Korean Unification.â€
The article urged Seoul not to increase defence spending so as to prompt a US withdrawal, and urged American voters not to choose the Democratic hopeful, Hillary Clinton.
“The president that US citizens must vote for is not that dull Hillary – who claimed to adapt the Iranian model to resolve nuclear issues on the Korean Peninsula – but Trump, who spoke of holding direct conversation with North Korea.â€
John Feffer, director of Foreign Policy In Focus, said the editorial indicated Pyongyang’s wish to break through Washington’s strategic patience policy.
“[Trump]’s the Dennis Rodman of American politics — quirky, flamboyant, risk-taking. At the moment he’s also an outsider. But Pyongyang is hoping that either he’ll be elected [and follow through on his pledges] or that his pronouncements will change the political game in the US and influence how the Democratic party and mainstream Republicans view Korean issues.â€
The editorial came amid repeated calls for dialogue with Seoul and its ally Washington. Since May 17, Pyongyang published a government statement with the aim of improving relations with Seoul, and notified the South Korean government of a willingness to resume inter-Korean military talks.
South Korea dismissed Pyongyang’s call for talks but Pyongyang reiterated their intention to resolve the current inter-Korean deadlock through the dialogue.
A version of this article first appeared on NK News – North Korean news
Good job guys. We should definitely elect the guy Kim Jong Un wants us to elect...
:facepalm:
And you ask why I could POSSIBLY prefer "Hitlary" for all her faults to Trump? She's the hawk who would keep dangerous dictators at bay. They see Trump as one of them. He already has Putin's endorsement.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/politics/russia-putin-trump/
You can spin this, and I know you will try, but you know goddamn well if these guys endorsed Hillary you would KNOW it was because they see a weakness to be exploited and/or because they want an America that reflects their style of government and see that potential in (her).
Let's hear your spin on how that isn't exactly the case with Trump.
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Cool. Trump gonna' team up with Putin and the Kimsbury Doughboy and rule the world.
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Great endorsement here, guys.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary?CMP=twt_gu
Good job guys. We should definitely elect the guy Kim Jong Un wants us to elect...
:facepalm:
And you ask why I could POSSIBLY prefer "Hitlary" for all her faults to Trump? She's the hawk who would keep dangerous dictators at bay. They see Trump as one of them. He already has Putin's endorsement.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/politics/russia-putin-trump/
You can spin this, and I know you will try, but you know goddamn well if these guys endorsed Hillary you would KNOW it was because they see a weakness to be exploited and/or because they want an America that reflects their style of government and see that potential in (her).
Let's hear your spin on how that isn't exactly the case with Trump.
Only a freaking moron would read that and let it sway their American vote. But I guess if the shoe fits!
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Great endorsement here, guys.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary?CMP=twt_gu
Good job guys. We should definitely elect the guy Kim Jong Un wants us to elect...
:facepalm:
And you ask why I could POSSIBLY prefer "Hitlary" for all her faults to Trump? She's the hawk who would keep dangerous dictators at bay. They see Trump as one of them. He already has Putin's endorsement.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/politics/russia-putin-trump/
You can spin this, and I know you will try, but you know goddamn well if these guys endorsed Hillary you would KNOW it was because they see a weakness to be exploited and/or because they want an America that reflects their style of government and see that potential in (her).
Let's hear your spin on how that isn't exactly the case with Trump.
Now I know you've lost your mind. Do you think these people are stupid? Do you think Putin and Hillary Clinton's Korean fashion model Kim Dung Fuck are SERIOUSLY endorsing Trump?
Do you think those two are so completely clueless that they are unaware of what their "support" might mean in America?
I guess you're too young to know about Br'er Rabbit. By the time you came along that character had been whitewashed right out of society.
Find the tar baby story. I know it's not politically correct and some people's eyes and anuses may bleed because you dared to read it. But do it anyway.
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Now I know you've lost your mind. Do you think these people are stupid? Do you think Putin and Hillary Clinton's Korean fashion model Kim Dung Fuck are SERIOUSLY endorsing Trump?
Do you think those two are so completely clueless that they are unaware of what their "support" might mean in America?
I guess you're too young to know about Br'er Rabbit. By the time you came along that character had been whitewashed right out of society.
Find the tar baby story. I know it's not politically correct and some people's eyes and anuses may bleed because you dared to read it. But do it anyway.
Man chill out. He posted a link and everything. It's real. And don't be questioning my gay friends intelligence. He may be a homo and racist but he is brilliant. In his own mind.
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Now I know you've lost your mind. Do you think these people are stupid? Do you think Putin and Hillary Clinton's Korean fashion model Kim Dung Fuck are SERIOUSLY endorsing Trump?
Do you think those two are so completely clueless that they are unaware of what their "support" might mean in America?
I guess you're too young to know about Br'er Rabbit. By the time you came along that character had been whitewashed right out of society.
Find the tar baby story. I know it's not politically correct and some people's eyes and anuses may bleed because you dared to read it. But do it anyway.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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You had me until this statement.
She's the hawk who would keep dangerous dictators at bay.
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/brer-rabbit-in-briar-patch_copy_1864.jpg)
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Yeah, I know you could give a fuck less what the creator of Dilbert says on the Bill Maher show, but I thought this was really interesting and does a lot to explain exactly what I have said in this thread a million times.
He's great at manipulating dumb people. I say that not as a slander as much as to say that it is a simple known fact that the dumber a person is, the easier they are to brainwash. Trump knows how to does it to great effect.
This is what is happening to you Trump fans rather you choose to realize it or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMERNoQm5DE
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Yeah, I know you could give a fuck less what the creator of Dilbert says on the Bill Maher show, but I thought this was really interesting and does a lot to explain exactly what I have said in this thread a million times.
He's great at manipulating dumb people. I say that not as a slander as much as to say that it is a simple known fact that the dumber a person is, the easier they are to brainwash. Trump knows how to does it to great effect.
This is what is happening to you Trump fans rather you choose to realize it or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMERNoQm5DE
I don't understand how you can be as intelligent as you are and still not get it. Voting for Trump this November isn't being a Trump fan. It's not thinking that Trump is going the be the best president ever. It's not thinking he's the best candidate since whomever. It's voting against the same inane bullshit that we have had since I can remember. It's voting against career politicians. It's voting against a family that has already spent 8 goddamn years in the Whitehouse. Trump ISN'T the answer. But he's a better fucking answer than Hillary Clinton.
You and everybody else in the free world can say he's brain washing dumb people. Y'all can say we're all racist. Y'all can say every extreme left wing liberal idea that you can think of to scare people away from voting for him, it doesn't fucking matter. It's a very simple and easy concept. In a 2 party system that puts Trump vs Hillary/Bernie in front of me in November, I will vote for Trump every single time. All the condescending remarks and browbeating you and every leftist can dole out isn't going to change shit.
Easy.
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I don't understand how you can be as intelligent as you are and still not get it.
Who have you heard say this about AUChizad, other than AUChizad?
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I don't understand how you can be as intelligent as you are and still not get it. Voting for Trump this November isn't being a Trump fan. It's not thinking that Trump is going the be the best president ever. It's not thinking he's the best candidate since whomever. It's voting against the same inane bullshit that we have had since I can remember. It's voting against career politicians. It's voting against a family that has already spent 8 goddamn years in the Whitehouse. Trump ISN'T the answer. But he's a better fucking answer than Hillary Clinton.
You and everybody else in the free world can say he's brain washing dumb people. Y'all can say we're all racist. Y'all can say every extreme left wing liberal idea that you can think of to scare people away from voting for him, it doesn't fucking matter. It's a very simple and easy concept. In a 2 party system that puts Trump vs Hillary/Bernie in front of me in November, I will vote for Trump every single time. All the condescending remarks and browbeating you and every leftist can dole out isn't going to change shit.
Easy.
If you people think I'm a leftist, I'd hate to see your head explode if you actually meet one…
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If you people think I'm a leftist, I'd hate to see your head explode if you actually meet one…
I don't necessarily think that you are the leftist on here, just the queerest.
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If you people think I'm a leftist, I'd hate to see your head explode if you actually meet one…
Actually it's worse than that. It is more like when a Christian claims homosexuality is normal. It's like a betrayal. But carry on. Your generation is the most educated ever. The rest of us know nothing!
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If you people think I'm a leftist, I'd hate to see your head explode if you actually meet one…
I know you're not. I just can't figure out why you are carrying their water.
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At this point, I hope Trump wins, for nothing more than the posts Chad makes for the next 4 years will be a lot more entertaining.
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At this point, I hope Trump wins, for nothing more than the posts Chad makes for the next 4 years will be a lot more entertaining.
The only reason that I hope Trump wins is the hope that Chizzy gets deported or sent to a gulag.
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I know you're not. I just can't figure out why you are carrying their water.
I'm not a tribalistic dumbshit and I can clearly recognize a disaster on the horizon when I see one?
Because in any other year, I'd be bemoaning "politics as usual" right along with you guys and be vocally on board with ANYONE running against Hillary too?
Just not the year when Kim Jong Dumbass is the supposed beacon of light...
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I'm not a tribalistic dumbshit and I can clearly recognize a disaster on the horizon when I see one?
Because in any other year, I'd be bemoaning "politics as usual" right along with you guys and be vocally on board with ANYONE running against Hillary too?
Just not the year when Kim Jong Dumbass is the supposed beacon of light...
Motherfucking word.
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Another video for you to ignore. It's buried deep at 2 hours, 15 minutes of a 4 1/2 hour podcast, but this analysis of the Trump phenomenon (and Hillary) is a smarter more articulate person than me saying some of the things I've been trying to. Betterer.
It's about an hour from about 2:15 to 3:15.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ5_hAEsLkU
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Another video for you to ignore. It's buried deep at 2 hours, 15 minutes of a 4 1/2 hour podcast, but this analysis of the Trump phenomenon (and Hillary) is a smarter more articulate person than me saying some of the things I've been trying to. Betterer.
It's about an hour from about 2:15 to 3:15.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ5_hAEsLkU
It stands to reason that you form most of your political opinions based on insight from comedians.
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It stands to reason that you form most of your political opinions based on insight from comedians.
It stands to reason that you form most of your opinions without having the slightest fucking idea what you're talking about.
It was the author/philosopher/neuroscientist's take I was referring to, who spoke about 95% of that hour.
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I'm not a tribalistic dumbshit and I can clearly recognize a disaster on the horizon when I see one?
Because in any other year, I'd be bemoaning "politics as usual" right along with you guys and be vocally on board with ANYONE running against Hillary too?
Just not the year when Kim Jong Dumbass is the supposed beacon of light...
We are already on the path to destruction.
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Furthermore, Trump will absolutely get us off the current path. Will it be a worse path? Likely. But the only path I see him leading us to is the destruction of the 2 party political system, and that's fine by me. I don't worry about the things you are others worry about the same way I didn't worry about the lunatics who were certain that Obama would declare Marshall law and hold the office until the end of time. We have congressmen and senators to ensure that one person can't fuck us up that badly. I'm just ready to see the current state of affairs crash and burn.
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It stands to reason that you form most of your opinions without having the slightest fucking idea what you're talking about.
It was the author/philosopher/neuroscientist's take I was referring to, who spoke about 95% of that hour.
On a comedians show. Homo.
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It stands to reason that you form most of your opinions without having the slightest fucking idea what you're talking about.
It was the author/philosopher/neuroscientist's take I was referring to, who spoke about 95% of that hour.
P20 Sand Paper won't buff that shit out.
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P20 Sand Paper won't buff that shit out.
And you can blow me too, buttercup.
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I'm not a tribalistic dumbshit and I can clearly recognize a disaster on the horizon when I see one?
Because in any other year, I'd be bemoaning "politics as usual" right along with you guys and be vocally on board with ANYONE running against Hillary too?
Just not the year when Kim Jong Dumbass is the supposed beacon of light...
He's better than her. His motives are more pure.
He's not the beacon. But running that craggy whore out of politics is the light.
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Another video for you to ignore. It's buried deep at 2 hours, 15 minutes of a 4 1/2 hour podcast, but this analysis of the Trump phenomenon (and Hillary) is a smarter more articulate person than me saying some of the things I've been trying to. Betterer.
It's about an hour from about 2:15 to 3:15.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ5_hAEsLkU
Fuck every single one of these fucking fucks who are "smarter" than the rest of us dolts and are searching for some soothing panacea to explain why we aren't as smart as they are since Trump is popular.
It's simple.
1. He's not Hillary. People like that.
2. He's not a career politician. People like that.
3. He's a smart ass. This is America.
4. He talks with believable fervor about things that matter to the American heartland: patriotism, American supremacy, American strength. We've watched for eight years as the Muslim in Chief has bowed and scraped in front of half the tinpot dictators in the world. People have reached the point that we want a "fuck you" leader.
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Fuck every single one of these fucking fucks who are "smarter" than the rest of us dolts and are searching for some soothing panacea to explain why we aren't as smart as they are since Trump is popular.
It's simple.
1. He's not Hillary. People like that.
2. He's not a career politician. People like that.
3. He's a smart ass. This is America.
4. He talks with believable fervor about things that matter to the American heartland: patriotism, American supremacy, American strength. We've watched for eight years as the Muslim in Chief has bowed and scraped in front of half the tinpot dictators in the world. People have reached the point that we want a "fuck you" leader.
One thing in Hillary's favor:
Her dick is prolly bigger.
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It stands to reason that you form most of your opinions without having the slightest fucking idea what you're talking about.
It was the author/philosopher/neuroscientist's take I was referring to, who spoke about 95% of that hour.
Nietzsche says out of chaos comes order
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Nietzsche says out of chaos comes order
What does a Hall of Fame Green Bay Packer middle linebacker have to do with any of this?
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What does a Hall of Fame Green Bay Packer middle linebacker have to do with any of this?
-1...The correct answer was "blow it out your ass Howard".
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-1...The correct answer was "blow it out your ass Howard".
I had that and changed it at the last second.
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-1...The correct answer was "blow it out your ass Howard".
Nobody is blowing anything out their asses!
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I think he's saying go faster.
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Yep. The "Trump bringing out a scurge of anti-semites & neonazis" thing is totes made up.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/02/racist-jew-tracker-targets-trump-s-kin.html
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Yep. The "Trump bringing out a scurge of anti-semites & neonazis" thing is totes made up.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/02/racist-jew-tracker-targets-trump-s-kin.html
You become more of a moron every day!
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You become more of a moron every day!
Great one size fits all non-argument that completely dodges the issue.
I'll bet you think you sure showed me…
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Yep. The "Trump bringing out a scurge of anti-semites & neonazis" thing is totes made up.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/02/racist-jew-tracker-targets-trump-s-kin.html
So. Fucking. What?
They are citizens. They have a vote. They're gonna vote for somebody. Just because they vote for Trump that doesn't make him one of them.
Clinton thinks all the black people are going to vote for her. Is she black? No. She's a dusty cracker that probably farts decades old talcum powder. She's an elitist snob who wouldn't spend ten minutes inside the average black person's home without wanting to take a shower and get back to her limo.
Clinton thinks all hispanics are going to vote for her. Is she a hispanic? No. Dusty cracker bitch.
Clinton thinks all women are going to vote for her. Is she a woman? Debatable.
Your point is stupid and without merit. But keep beating that dull drum and looking goofier by the day.
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So. Fucking. What?
They are citizens. They have a vote. They're gonna vote for somebody. Just because they vote for Trump that doesn't make him one of them.
Clinton thinks all the black people are going to vote for her. Is she black? No. She's a dusty cracker that probably farts decades old talcum powder. She's an elitist snob who wouldn't spend ten minutes inside the average black person's home without wanting to take a shower and get back to her limo.
Clinton thinks all hispanics are going to vote for her. Is she a hispanic? No. Dusty cracker bitch.
Clinton thinks all women are going to vote for her. Is she a woman? Debatable.
Your point is stupid and without merit. But keep beating that dull drum and looking goofier by the day.
He's a delusional (((fag))).
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So. Fucking. What?
They are citizens. They have a vote. They're gonna vote for somebody. Just because they vote for Trump that doesn't make him one of them.
Clinton thinks all the black people are going to vote for her. Is she black? No. She's a dusty cracker that probably farts decades old talcum powder. She's an elitist snob who wouldn't spend ten minutes inside the average black person's home without wanting to take a shower and get back to her limo.
Clinton thinks all hispanics are going to vote for her. Is she a hispanic? No. Dusty cracker bitch.
Clinton thinks all women are going to vote for her. Is she a woman? Debatable.
Your point is stupid and without merit. But keep beating that dull drum and looking goofier by the day.
Hence, why he becomes more of a moron every day.
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So. Fucking. What?
They are citizens. They have a vote. They're gonna vote for somebody. Just because they vote for Trump that doesn't make him one of them.
Clinton thinks all the black people are going to vote for her. Is she black? No. She's a dusty cracker that probably farts decades old talcum powder. She's an elitist snob who wouldn't spend ten minutes inside the average black person's home without wanting to take a shower and get back to her limo.
Clinton thinks all hispanics are going to vote for her. Is she a hispanic? No. Dusty cracker bitch.
Clinton thinks all women are going to vote for her. Is she a woman? Debatable.
Your point is stupid and without merit. But keep beating that dull drum and looking goofier by the day.
Those groups you mention overwhelmingly vote Democrat because they reasonably believe they are more apt to address their concerns.
Neonazis support Trump for the same reason.
That should bother and concern you. I know it doesn't.
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Those groups you mention overwhelmingly vote Democrat because they reasonably believe they are more apt to address their concerns.
Neonazis support Trump for the same reason.
That should bother and concern you. I know it doesn't.
WHY should it?
What is it these groups "reasonably believe"? That Hillary or Bernie will give them more free stuff or at least not take away all the free stuff to which they already have ready access?
You think I should align my political and economic wants and needs with undocumented workers? With illegal aliens? With the "gimme-dat poor?" With those who demand theirs as they simultaneously refuse to accept any form of personal accountability?
Yeah. That makes so much fucking sense.
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Written by a former marine:
Clinton is ....., someone with no honor, little courage and commitment only to her endless ambition. This has nothing to do with gender, party affiliation, ideology or policy. It is a question of character — not just hers, but ours. Electing Clinton would mean abandoning holding people accountable for grievous errors of integrity and responsibility. What we already know about her security infractions should disqualify her for any government position that deals in information critical to mission success, domestic or foreign. But beyond that, her responses to being found out — dismissing its importance, claiming ignorance, blaming others — indict her beyond anything the investigation can reveal. Those elements reveal her character. And the saddest thing is that so many in America seem not to care.
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End of discussion.
Anyone is better than her. Literally anyone.
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Those groups you mention overwhelmingly vote Democrat because they reasonably believe they are more apt to address their concerns.
Neonazis support Trump for the same reason.
That should bother and concern you. I know it doesn't.
Ehhh I wouldn't agree with that exactly. Lot of dems vote that way to get theirs. Meaning entitlements. It's become the party of the weak and disenfranchised and many want their entitlement. Sad but true.
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Ehhh I wouldn't agree with that exactly. Lot of dems vote that way to get theirs. Meaning entitlements. It's become the party of the weak and disenfranchised and many want their entitlement. Sad but true.
I WANTS MINES!
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So, if it matters so much that Trump has nazis supporting him, surely Clinton and Obama should come out fervently against Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, Jerimiah Wright ( you know, the "preacher" who influenced Obama's book) and the rest of the terrorist left.
Doesn't that only make sense? Why wouldn't it?
Do these idiots that are so upset about the ding bats who support Trump not realize that the left has terrorist ding bats too?
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So, if it matters so much that Trump has nazis supporting him, surely Clinton and Obama should come out fervently against Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, Jerimiah Wright ( you know, the "preacher" who influenced Obama's book) and the rest of the terrorist left.
Doesn't that only make sense? Why wouldn't it?
Do these idiots that are so upset about the ding bats who support Trump not realize that the left has terrorist ding bats too?
Dems have had radicals supporting them for decades.
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Great one size fits all non-argument that completely dodges the issue.
I'll bet you think you sure showed me…
The irony of this post is unbelievable...
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The irony of this post is unbelievable...
:popcorn:
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The irony of this post is unbelievable...
Apparently you don't know what irony is.
Kaos at least tries to back his arguments up with bloviated word salad about how IT DOESN'T MATTER that Trump can say and do the most vapid despicable things because he's not Hillary.
CCTAU's arguments have pretty much all begun and ended with "Beta male", "kids these days don't get it", or "ur a dumb moran". Never even attempts to say anything of substance at all. Exactly the type that thinks "Whatever Lyin' Ted!" trumps a valid argument.
To say that what I said was ironic is to say that I just hurl out four of five words of insults and rely on that as my ENTIRE argument. That instead of addressing and picking apart each individual bullshit statement that is made in here line-by-line and shoot holes in them with facts, I just blurt out "U don't know shit, fag" and call it a day. I think you can accuse me of lots of things in these threads, but not verbosely fleshing out my argument cannot be one of them.
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Apparently you don't know what irony is.
Kaos at least tries to back his arguments up with bloviated word salad about how IT DOESN'T MATTER that Trump can say and do the most vapid despicable things because he's not Hillary.
CCTAU's arguments have pretty much all begun and ended with "Beta male", "kids these days don't get it", or "ur a dumb moran". Never even attempts to say anything of substance at all. Exactly the type that thinks "Whatever Lyin' Ted!" trumps a valid argument.
To say that what I said was ironic is to say that I just hurl out four of five words of insults and rely on that as my ENTIRE argument. That instead of addressing and picking apart each individual bullshit statement that is made in here line-by-line and shoot holes in them with facts, I just blurt out "U don't know shit, fag" and call it a day. I think you can accuse me of lots of things in these threads, but not verbosely fleshing out my argument cannot be one of them.
U don't know shit, fag.
Beta male moran!!!
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Apparently you don't know what irony is.
Kaos at least tries to back his arguments up with bloviated word salad about how IT DOESN'T MATTER that Trump can say and do the most vapid despicable things because he's not Hillary.
CCTAU's arguments have pretty much all begun and ended with "Beta male", "kids these days don't get it", or "ur a dumb moran". Never even attempts to say anything of substance at all. Exactly the type that thinks "Whatever Lyin' Ted!" trumps a valid argument.
To say that what I said was ironic is to say that I just hurl out four of five words of insults and rely on that as my ENTIRE argument. That instead of addressing and picking apart each individual bullshit statement that is made in here line-by-line and shoot holes in them with facts, I just blurt out "U don't know shit, fag" and call it a day. I think you can accuse me of lots of things in these threads, but not verbosely fleshing out my argument cannot be one of them.
What you don't understand is that the ENTIRE argument that Trump is a racist, liar, bigot, whatever completely dodges the issue that Trump is neither Hillary, or a career politician. You say the same thing over and over and over and over and over again but miss the reason that most on here will vote for Trump.
But I bet you think you sure showed me...
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What you don't understand is that the ENTIRE argument that Trump is a racist, liar, bigot, whatever completely dodges the issue that Trump is neither Hillary, or a career politician. You say the same thing over and over and over and over and over again but miss the reason that most on here will vote for Trump.
But I bet you think you sure showed me...
Showing multiple daily examples that support my overarching argument, otherwise known as bringing facts to the discussion, is not the same ad-hominem bullshit that CCTAU does. I'm sorry if you don't understand the difference.
Also, it's NOT my ENTIRE argument. I have addressed AT LENGTH that voting for a a Presidential candidate who doesn't know shit about politics is akin to going to a doctor who doesn't know shit about medicine. Remember? Also "he's not Hillary" is not a substantive argument, and all of my examples of why he's JUST as awful, if not moreso, is what you call making an argument based on substance and fact rather than emotion and fee-fees.
Again, I'm sorry that you fail to understand the very obvious difference.
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Showing multiple daily examples that support my overarching argument, otherwise known as bringing facts to the discussion, is not the same ad-hominem bullshit that CCTAU does. I'm sorry if you don't understand the difference.
Also, it's NOT my ENTIRE argument. I have addressed AT LENGTH that voting for a a Presidential candidate who doesn't know shit about politics is akin to going to a doctor who doesn't know shit about medicine. Remember? Also "he's not Hillary" is not a substantive argument, and all of my examples of why he's JUST as awful, if not moreso, is what you call making an argument based on substance and fact rather than emotion and fee-fees.
Again, I'm sorry that you fail to understand the very obvious difference.
You've yet to provide a single actual "fact." Not one. Everything you post is someone's opinion.
You've provided links to numerous viewpoints from such luminaries as George Clooney, Bill Mahr, Jon Stewart, Whoopi Goldberg, Bill Oliver, Joe Rogan, etc. You point to the tweets of support from "neo nazis" while blindly ignoring the lunatic freaks who support Clinton, deluding yourself into believing that it's somehow different.
Your entire argument is based on emotion, not logic. Ours is based on sound logical thought.
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You've yet to provide a single actual "fact." Not one. Everything you post is someone's opinion.
You've provided links to numerous viewpoints from such luminaries as George Clooney, Bill Mahr, Jon Stewart, Whoopi Goldberg, Bill Oliver, Joe Rogan, etc. You point to the tweets of support from "neo nazis" while blindly ignoring the lunatic freaks who support Clinton, deluding yourself into believing that it's somehow different.
Your entire argument is based on emotion, not logic. Ours is based on sound logical thought.
The ANALYSIS from experts in the relative fields of discussion depending on the topic (political science, philosophy, neuroscience, hypnosis) came from NONE...read NOT ONE…of the examples you just listed.
You'd have to actually listen/watch/read any of the things I post and risk the horror of letting new information that might possibly change your mind enter your brain. And you're completely uninterested in that because "IT DOESN'T MATTER"…
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Apparently you don't know what irony is.
Kaos at least tries to back his arguments up with bloviated word salad about how IT DOESN'T MATTER that Trump can say and do the most vapid despicable things because he's not Hillary.
CCTAU's arguments have pretty much all begun and ended with "Beta male", "kids these days don't get it", or "ur a dumb moran". Never even attempts to say anything of substance at all. Exactly the type that thinks "Whatever Lyin' Ted!" trumps a valid argument.
To say that what I said was ironic is to say that I just hurl out four of five words of insults and rely on that as my ENTIRE argument. That instead of addressing and picking apart each individual bullshit statement that is made in here line-by-line and shoot holes in them with facts, I just blurt out "U don't know shit, fag" and call it a day. I think you can accuse me of lots of things in these threads, but not verbosely fleshing out my argument cannot be one of them.
Well in that guys defense, Ted WAS Lyin'. He said earlier that day he had eaten an egg white delight for breakfast. But the folks at McDonald's said that he indeed had the full on egg mcmuffin with yolk and all. Damn Lyin Ted.
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The ANALYSIS from experts in the relative fields of discussion depending on the topic (political science, philosophy, neuroscience, hypnosis) came from NONE...read NOT ONE…of the examples you just listed.
You'd have to actually listen/watch/read any of the things I post and risk the horror of letting new information that might possibly change your mind enter your brain. And you're completely uninterested in that because "IT DOESN'T MATTER"…
ANALYSIS from experts does. not. equal. facts.
I'd drop the mic, but that's played out.
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I think you can accuse me of lots of things in these threads, but not verbosely fleshing out my argument cannot be one of them.
If verbosely means querrishly or fagishly, then you are 100% right on this. I will have to agree with you. And I'm sure that an argument isn't the only thing you know how to flesh out, if you know what I mean.
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What you don't understand is that the ENTIRE argument that Trump is a racist, liar, bigot, whatever completely dodges the issue that Trump is neither Hillary, or a career politician. You say the same thing over and over and over and over and over again but miss the reason that most on here will vote for Trump.
But I bet you think you sure showed me...
Dude, he called you an ad-hominem. Are you going to take that?
Isn't that ironic? Oh, I forgot that you don't know what irony means.
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Dude, he called you an ad-hominem. Are you going to take that?
Isn't that ironic? Oh, I forgot that you don't know what irony means.
It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid.
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It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid.
Who would've thought.
It figures.
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If verbosely means querrishly or fagishly, then you are 100% right on this. I will have to agree with you. And I'm sure that an argument isn't the only thing you know how to flesh out, if you know what I mean.
I forget sometimes that I am not verbose enough.
He's already been told a hundred times. I think I will revert to using even less word and go with your approach.
DUMB ASS BETA MALE FAGGOT!
That should sum up his approach.
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I forget sometimes that I am not verbose enough.
He's already been told a hundred times. I think I will revert to using even less word and go with your approach.
DUMB ASS BETA MALE FAGGOT!
That should sum up his approach.
I have maybe said a lot of things about Chizzy and meant most of it. But I have never, to my recollection, ever called him male. And I resent the accusation.
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Here's an example of me supporting my argument (that Trump is a scam artist AND that there are racist elements to Trump's campaign) with FACTS.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-keeps-up-attacks-on-judge-gonzalo-curiel-1464911442
Trump Says Judge’s Mexican Heritage Presents ‘Absolute Conflict’
Republican’s charge that Judge Gonzalo Curiel has a conflict of interest draws criticism from some legal observers
A federal judge unsealed court documents in a fraud lawsuit against Donald Trump's now defunct real estate school, Trump University. WSJ's Shelby Holliday highlights three key findings. Photo: Zuma Press
By BRENT KENDALL
Donald Trump on Thursday escalated his attacks on the federal judge presiding over civil fraud lawsuits against Trump University, amid criticism from legal observers who say the presumptive GOP presidential nominee’s comments are an unusual affront on an independent judiciary.
In an interview, Mr. Trump said U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel had “an absolute conflict†in presiding over the litigation given that he was “of Mexican heritage†and a member of a Latino lawyers’ association. Mr. Trump said the background of the judge, who was born in Indiana to Mexican immigrants, was relevant because of his campaign stance against illegal immigration and his pledge to seal the southern U.S. border. “I’m building a wall. It’s an inherent conflict of interest,†Mr. Trump said.
The New York businessman also alleged the judge was a former colleague and friend of one of the Trump University plaintiffs’ lawyers. The judge and the lawyer once worked together as federal prosecutors, but the lawyer, Jason Forge, in an interview said he had never seen the judge socially.
“Neither Judge Curiel’s ethnicity nor the fact that we crossed paths as prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney’s Office well over a decade ago is to blame†for Mr. Trump’s actions, said Mr. Forge, who is with the law firm Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd LLP.
An assistant in Judge Curiel’s chambers said he wasn’t commenting on the matter. An aide to the judge has previously said the judicial code of conduct prevents him from responding to Mr. Trump. Judge Curiel is an Obama nominee who has served on the district court in San Diego since the Senate confirmed him in 2012.
Judge Curiel’s older brother, Raul Curiel, a 67-year-old in Hammond, Ind., said his brother wasn’t fazed by Mr. Trump’s comments. “He’s taking it pretty much in stride,†the elder Mr. Curiel said.
For judges, being criticized for rulings comes with the territory, but court watchers say it is a degree far different when the critic could win the nation’s highest office, is involved in a pending case and references the judge's ethnicity.
University of Pennsylvania law professor Stephen Burbank said it was “absolute nonsense†that the judge shouldn’t be able to preside over the case because of his ethnicity.
“If this continues, I would hope that some prominent federal judges would set Mr. Trump straight on what’s appropriate and what’s not in our democracy,†Mr. Burbank said.
Ronald Rotunda, a professor at Chapman University School of Law in Orange, Calif., noted that whatever Mr. Trump’s grievances, his lawyers haven’t filed any motion asking for the case to be reassigned to a different judge. If Mr. Trump has a problem with the judge, “that’s the legitimate way†to register a complaint, he said.
Mr. Trump in the interview said that he may do so. Other judges, he said, would have thrown out the plaintiffs’ case against the school, he said.
The GOP candidate’s comments follow a San Diego speech last week in which he called the judge “a hater of Donald Trump†and “a total disgrace,†while referencing the judge’s ethnicity.
Mr. Trump also criticized the judge Thursday on Twitter, saying he would win the litigation and reopen the now-defunct Trump University when the cases were done.
While Mr. Trump’s comments prompted criticism, he said he believed the bigger threat is to be treated unfairly by the courts. “It’s called freedom of speech,†he said of the criticisms.
Legal experts agreed that defendants have the First Amendment freedom to express opinions about a judge hearing their case—as long as they aren’t disruptive in the courtroom.
“It is a prized American privilege to speak one’s mind, although not always with perfect good taste, on all public institutions,†Justice Hugo Black wrote in a 1941 Supreme Court decision that threw out contempt convictions of a newspaper publisher and a labor leader for speaking out on pending litigation.
Judge Curiel is presiding over a pair of cases in which the plaintiffs alleged Trump University duped them into paying tens of thousands of dollars on the belief they would be trained to learn Mr. Trump’s real-estate strategies. Mr. Trump denies the allegations, saying the students got their money’s worth, with many offering positive evaluations of the program.
The judge has issued pre-trial rulings against Mr. Trump and has unsealed documents in the case offering a detailed look at the business’s operations and scathing assessments from some former workers. One case is set to go to trial in November, after the election. No trial date has been set in the other case, with the next pretrial hearing set for July.
Such criticism is a closer call if the critic is a lawyer in the case, because attorneys are bound by professional conduct rules.
Lawyers in some instances have faced sanctions for controversial criticisms of judges, while in other cases they have avoided punishment.
Mr. Trump is being represented by a prominent national law firm, O’Melveny & Myers LLP, whose alumni include federal appeals court Judge Sri Srinivasan, who was on President Barack Obama’s recent short list for the Supreme Court.
Firm representatives didn’t respond to requests for comment.
The code of conduct for federal judges restricts them from “mak[ing] public comment on the merits of a matter pending or impending in any court†and bars them from publicly endorsing or opposing a candidate for public office. But in at least one rare instance, judges came to the defense of a colleague they believed was being unfairly targeted with political attacks.
During the 1996 presidential campaign, both President Bill Clinton and Sen. Bob Dole, the Republican nominee, criticized a Clinton-appointed New York federal judge, Harold Baer, who excluded prosecutors’ evidence in a high-profile narcotics case. In response, four judges on the Second U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued a statement in defense of Judge Baer, saying the officials’ remarks had gone “too far†and could intimidate other judges.
Judge Baer later reversed his ruling, though he said it wasn’t because of political pressure. He eventually took himself off the case.
If you're upset by the FACT that Hillary Clinton is the subject of a Federal investigation over the email server (as I am), you should also be upset by the FACT that Trump is the subject of a Federal investigation for taking advantage of and DEFRAUDING people with his Trump University SCAM. I shouldn't have to spell out those facts, but apparently I do. The perfect metaphor for his entire campaign, by the way. Take advantage of idiots who don't know any better by selling them on empty nothing bullshit solely on the basis of the Trump "brand name".
Secondly, it is a FACT that Trump stated publicly that Judge Curiel is incapable of doing his job solely on the basis of his RACE. If only there was a word for such a belief...oh right, racism...
Again, it shouldn't have to be said, but THIS is what I'm doing when I introduce a nearly daily story of Trump doing something to support the claims I made in DAY ONE of these threads. Introducing facts. That support my claims.
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Dude, he called you an ad-hominem. Are you going to take that?
Damn hate crimes I tell ya. The gays like chad have just as much right to be here as the rest of us.
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Here's an example of me supporting my argument (that Trump is a scam artist AND that there are racist elements to Trump's campaign) with FACTS.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-keeps-up-attacks-on-judge-gonzalo-curiel-1464911442If you're upset by the FACT that Hillary Clinton is the subject of a Federal investigation over the email server (as I am), you should also be upset by the FACT that Trump is the subject of a Federal investigation for taking advantage of and DEFRAUDING people with his Trump University SCAM. I shouldn't have to spell out those facts, but apparently I do. The perfect metaphor for his entire campaign, by the way. Take advantage of idiots who don't know any better by selling them on empty nothing bullshit solely on the basis of the Trump "brand name".
Secondly, it is a FACT that Trump stated publicly that Judge Curiel is incapable of doing his job solely on the basis of his RACE. If only there was a word for such a belief...oh right, racism...
Again, it shouldn't have to be said, but THIS is what I'm doing when I introduce a nearly daily story of Trump doing something to support the claims I made in DAY ONE of these threads. Introducing facts. That support my claims.
Not saying I agree or disagree here. I do think trump should let this one alone and move on to bigger things. But you have to be aware and careful of sources that "quote mine" and cherry pick. It can mean everything with context. It sometimes doesn't make it any more or less true but it can dictate the severity or extreme of the context. Which is a world of difference in the public opinions eyes.
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Personally, I don't think what Trump said concerning the Judge rises to the level of racism. His stance on immigration has been probably the biggest hot button topic and the subject of protests and riots. Right or wrong, it's natural to assume there could be at least a hint of bias. Having said that, the absolutely idiotic thing on Trump's part is saying it publically. Why in the hell isn't somebody in his ear trying reign in all his loose cannon antics?
I've seen some claims on here that all this could have been an act and he'll start toning it down and focusing on real issues. I'd have to say, this is no act. His ego is so big that he honestly believes he needs no filter.
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If I was in court and I had disavowed rice as a diabetes causing junk food, I wouldn't want a chinaman judge.
Don't see the problem.
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Personally, I don't think what Trump said concerning the Judge rises to the level of racism. His stance on immigration has been probably the biggest hot button topic and the subject of protests and riots. Right or wrong, it's natural to assume there could be at least a hint of bias.
The judge was born in Indiana. He is not an illegal immigrant. There is no political basis to assume any of his opinions one way or another on Trump UNLESS you're conceding that Trump has given reasonable cause for all people of an entire RACE (not nationality or status as a citizen) to dislike him BECAUSE of their race. Either he's being racist now, or has established a reputation for being racist. Either way, the point stands.
I've seen some claims on here that all this could have been an act and he'll start toning it down and focusing on real issues. I'd have to say, this is no act. His ego is so big that he honestly believes he needs no filter.
Still waiting...
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Here's an example of me supporting my argument (that Trump is a scam artist AND that there are racist elements to Trump's campaign) with FACTS.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-keeps-up-attacks-on-judge-gonzalo-curiel-1464911442If you're upset by the FACT that Hillary Clinton is the subject of a Federal investigation over the email server (as I am), you should also be upset by the FACT that Trump is the subject of a Federal investigation for taking advantage of and DEFRAUDING people with his Trump University SCAM. I shouldn't have to spell out those facts, but apparently I do. The perfect metaphor for his entire campaign, by the way. Take advantage of idiots who don't know any better by selling them on empty nothing bullshit solely on the basis of the Trump "brand name".
Secondly, it is a FACT that Trump stated publicly that Judge Curiel is incapable of doing his job solely on the basis of his RACE. If only there was a word for such a belief...oh right, racism...
Again, it shouldn't have to be said, but THIS is what I'm doing when I introduce a nearly daily story of Trump doing something to support the claims I made in DAY ONE of these threads. Introducing facts. That support my claims.
I agree it could have been handled completely different...as most everything Trump does. But, what if the premise behind what he said is true?
The judge in the Trump University case, who has been frequently criticized by Donald Trump’s lawyers for perceived political bias, has been revealed to have been a member of a legal group affiliated with the largest radical Hispanic organization in the United States.
According to a report in The Daily Caller, Judge Gonzalo Curiel revealed that he was a member of La Raza Lawyers of San Diego during a questionnaire before his appointment as a federal judge in 2011.
On the group’s home page, its “community†links include the radical group La Raza. La Raza, which translates literally as “the race,†has been critical of Trump’s campaign, even going as far as calling “Saturday Night Live†a “platform for hate†when “SNL†allowed Trump to appear on the show last year.
Curiel, it should be noted noted, has attended at least two meetings of La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and was involved in giving “a law school scholarship to an illegal alien†through the La Raza Lawyers of San Diego Scholarship Fund. He is also a supporter of Hillary Clinton.
“The judge was appointed by Barack Obama, federal judge. Frankly, he should recuse himself because he’s given us ruling after ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative,†Trump said at a rally in San Diego in late May.
“What happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great. I think that’s fine,†he added.
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If I was in court and I had disavowed rice as a diabetes causing junk food, I wouldn't want a chinaman ex judge.
Don't see the problem.
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This made me actually laugh out loud in what was supposed to be a serious meeting.
Thank you.
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This made me actually laugh out loud in what was supposed to be a serious meeting.
Thank you.
Going over new techniques for pistol whipping a brother off camera and making it look like a self-inflicted wound?
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I agree it could have been handled completely different...as most everything Trump does. But, what if the premise behind what he said is true?
And here's the part where I explain that if you're going to insist on getting your news from blogs like ConservativeTribune (which I notice you didn't link), you should do at least five seconds of fact checking, because odds are high that it is full of shit.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-latinos-idUSKCN0YS2BV
Which ‘La Raza’? Trump comments cause confusion over group's role
NEW YORK | BY EMILY FLITTER
Donald Trump's attacks on a federal judge of Mexican heritage have ignited hundreds of postings on social media about an advocacy group for Latinos that some Trump supporters are calling a terrorist organization.
The presumptive Republican presidential nominee has said that U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, an Indiana native whose parents are Mexican immigrants, is making unfair rulings against him as the presiding judge in a class-action lawsuit over Trump University because of his plans to crack down on illegal immigration, including a promise to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
As evidence of what they say is Curiel's bias, Trump and some of his supporters have pointed to the judge's membership in La Raza Lawyers of San Diego, a local group for Hispanic lawyers that is affiliated with the Hispanic National Bar Association.
Some Trump supporters have incorrectly linked La Raza Lawyers to the National Council of La Raza, a 50-year-old civil rights group that has been strongly critical of Trump's proposals on immigration, as well as his idea to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the United States.
The NCLR's non-profit designation bars it from engaging in political campaigns, and the group's website describes it as a "nonpartisan voice for Latinos."
A conservative blog, GotNews.com, first noted Curiel's membership in the lawyer's group, which it identified simply as "La Raza," on May 31. A day later, another conservative website, The Daily Caller, made a link to the NCLR.
After the NCLR was first named, Trump fans on Twitter began attacking it. "Judge #TrumpHater #GonzaloCuriel is a member of the #TERRORIST group #LaRazza #BANLaRazza #GonzaloCuriel #RESIGN," wrote a user @WillysBaldSpot, whose profile describes her as a Trump supporter.
"I would never have known the "La Raza" organization existed without Trump's controversial comments. #genius," wrote @asamjulian, another self-proclaimed Trump fan.
TRUMP: "HE'S GOT BIAS"
Trump on Sunday repeated his attack on Curiel in an interview on CBS's "Face the Nation."
"He's a member of a club or society very strongly pro-Mexican, which is all fine. But I say he's got bias," Trump said in the interview.
"This judge has treated me very unfairly. He's treated me in a hostile manner, and there's something going on," he added.
The words "La Raza" translate from Spanish to mean "the race," which Trump fans cite as proof the NCLR is a group of people who hate anyone who isn't Hispanic.
Lisa Navarrete, an NCLR spokeswoman, rejected that interpretation, saying that "thousands" of groups had names that included "La Raza" as a "nod to our common heritage."
The attacks on the advocacy group are the latest signs of the increasing racial tension in the 2016 presidential race. Critics have said Trump's calls to deport undocumented immigrants and ban Muslims amount to racism. His supporters say he's defending the country from terrorism and violence.
Some supporters of the New York businessman have blamed the NCLR for the violent clashes between anti-Trump protesters and Trump fans at a San Jose, California, rally last week.
"Thank you La Raza for putting California into play for Trump," wrote another supporter, @magnifier661. "Your violent fascism turned off the voting class #MAGA (a hashtag meaning Make America Great Again)."
The NCLR has been criticized in the past for its leaders' statements on immigration - the group supports a path to citizenship for people who entered the United States illegally - but Navarrete said it has never before attracted the ire of a presidential candidate.
Over the past week, she said, she and other NCLR officials have been calling journalists and pundits they believe are mischaracterizing the group.
"We've been doing a lot of correcting the media and making sure they're not repeating what supporters of Mr. Trump are saying," she said.
"We're sitting around arguing the minutiae of banking regulation, not running around in hoods.'"
Hope Hicks, Trump's spokeswoman, declined to comment.
Remember what I've been saying about manipulating idiots? Just put a minimal effort into not to being one.
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The judge was born in Indiana. He is not an illegal immigrant. There is no political basis to assume any of his opinions one way or another on Trump UNLESS you're conceding that Trump has given reasonable cause for all people of an entire RACE (not nationality or status as a citizen) to dislike him BECAUSE of their race. Either he's being racist now, or has established a reputation for being racist. Either way, the point stands.
Still waiting...
I would venture a guess that most of the people of Mexican descent protesting are not illegal immigrants either. Trump may or may not have a valid argument to try and remove this Judge. Probably not. But any time you feel like you have reason to believe you're not going to get a fair shake from the man or woman on the bench, you have the right to make that argument. But, there are proper ways to go about that. One of them definitely isn't making that argument in a public forum when you're running for Prez. It's a dumbass move that only strengthens the perception of racism from his detractors.
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Going over new techniques for pistol whipping a brother off camera and making it look like a self-inflicted wound?
Like the technique where 4 or 5 250 pound coppers are elbows and assholes on top of a brother, with a boot on the back of his neck as he lie face down on a gravel parking lot, and at least two are yelling: "STOP RESiSTING!!!".
"Mofos how I resisting?"
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It's a dumbass move that only strengthens the perception of racism from his detractors.
And his supporters, which explains why he did it.
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And here's the part where I explain that if you're going to insist on getting your news from blogs like ConservativeTribune (which I notice you didn't link), you should do at least five seconds of fact checking, because odds are high that it is full of shit.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-latinos-idUSKCN0YS2BV
Remember what I've been saying about manipulating idiots? Just put a minimal effort into not to being one.
I didn't quote it as fact, which is why I said what if the "premise" is true? And I didn't link because I got other shit to do...not because I am trying to pull some fast one.
But honestly, do you not see that you do the same fucking thing? Sure this is a blog, but it is a person's opinion. Just like half of the shit you quote. You don't think there is motive in half the "reputable" news articles you quote?
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And his supporters, which explains why he did it.
Nah. He handled it poorly again. It shouldn't have been said and even the strongest supporters; Gingrich, Carson, etc, have killed him on it.
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I didn't quote it as fact, which is why I said what if the "premise" is true? And I didn't link because I got other shit to do...not because I am trying to pull some fast one.
But honestly, do you not see that you do the same fucking thing? Sure this is a blog, but it is a person's opinion. Just like half of the shit you quote. You don't think there is motive in half the "reputable" news articles you quote?
So again, I'm going to have to explain the difference in a fact and an opinion. This was not an opinion piece. They made a FALSE link between La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and the National Council of La Raza, two completely different things, and purported that they are the same thing. That is a lie. It is presented as fact, but it is UNfactual. They then listed off things they deemed "radical" that this group they claim is associated with Curiel did, but IT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GROUP. That is a false narrative and a lie. It is not fact. And the opposite of fact is not an OPINION. It is a LIE. This was not a theoretical or philosophical explanation for why THEY think Trump or his detractors acted a certain way. They straight up lied. See the difference?
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Nah. He handled it poorly again. It shouldn't have been said and even the strongest supporters; Gingrich, Carson, etc, have killed him on it.
I see some of his supposedly not-so-strongest supporters in this thread, including yourself defending it.
If you want to see what his strongest supporters are saying on the subject, again, I invite you to peer into Twitter.
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I didn't quote it as fact, which is why I said what if the "premise" is true? And I didn't link because I got other shit to do...not because I am trying to pull some fast one.
But honestly, do you not see that you do the same fucking thing? Sure this is a blog, but it is a person's opinion. Just like half of the shit you quote. You don't think there is motive in half the "reputable" news articles you quote?
...and by the way, if you ever see me posting a LIE that I'm trying to pass off as the truth, call me on it. I can admit when I'm wrong, and I would never deliberately try to pass off a lie as a fact. Again, opinions are subjective and you can disagree with them. Facts are not, and you can't.
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I didn't quote it as fact, which is why I said what if the "premise" is true? And I didn't link because I got other shit to do...not because I am trying to pull some fast one.
But honestly, do you not see that you do the same fucking thing? Sure this is a blog, but it is a person's opinion. Just like half of the shit you quote. You don't think there is motive in half the "reputable" news articles you quote?
Wait just a cotton picking minute here. Are you serious when you say you have better things to do than provide endless links and quotes out the ass from numerous piss ant blogs and queer web sites dug up from the cess pool of the inter web, in order to "prove" how invariably "right" and "smart" you are? Srsly?
Do you have a link?
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...and by the way, if you ever see me posting a LIE that I'm trying to pass off as the truth, call me on it. I can admit when I'm wrong, and I would never deliberately try to pass off a lie as a fact. Again, opinions are subjective and you can disagree with them. Facts are not, and you can't.
His admission goes something like this.
https://youtu.be/fbMKjLe-RFA
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Wait just a cotton picking minute here. Are you serious when you say you have better things to do than provide endless links and quotes out the ass from numerous piss ant blogs and queer web sites dug up from the cess pool of the inter web, in order to "prove" how invariably "right" and "smart" you are? Srsly?
Do you have a link?
Name a single link I have ever posted as obscure and unreputable as conservativetribune.com.
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Name a single link I have ever posted as obscure and unreputable as conservativetribune.com.
www.lickadick.com
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Oh my God, that site is so good. I stay on it consta......err, I mean....that was damn funny, WT.
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So again, I'm going to have to explain the difference in a fact and an opinion. This was not an opinion piece. They made a FALSE link between La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and the National Council of La Raza, two completely different things, and purported that they are the same thing. That is a lie. It is presented as fact, but it is UNfactual. They then listed off things they deemed "radical" that this group they claim is associated with Curiel did, but IT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GROUP. That is a false narrative and a lie. It is not fact. And the opposite of fact is not an OPINION. It is a LIE. This was not a theoretical or philosophical explanation for why THEY think Trump or his detractors acted a certain way. They straight up lied. See the difference?
Like you might not mix up La Raza and.... uh..... La Raza.
The fuck, dude? Are you insane?
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Like you might not mix up La Raza and.... uh..... La Raza.
The fuck, dude? Are you insane?
1) I'm not a "news" site.
2) One is La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and one is the National Council of La Raza. THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS with the same word in it?
Other things I don't mix up because they have the same word in it:
Clash of Clans on the iPhone and the Ku Klux Klan
The Grand Old Party and LemonParty.org
Sweet Child O'Mine and child rape
HOW COULD ANYONE POSSIBLY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE THINGS?!?
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The last couple pages here have me thinking that you're all just trolling Chad at this point. You must be.
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The last couple pages here have me thinking that you're all just trolling Chad at this point. You must be.
If Chad isn't a lawyer, he should be.
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1) I'm not a "news" site.
2) One is La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and one is the National Council of La Raza. THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS with the same word in it?
Other things I don't mix up because they have the same word in it:
Clash of Clans on the iPhone and the Ku Klux Klan
The Grand Old Party and LemonParty.org
Sweet Child O'Mine and child rape
HOW COULD ANYONE POSSIBLY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE THINGS?!?
I wouldn't have known the difference. And your examples are shit.
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Going over new techniques for pistol whipping a brother off camera and making it look like a self-inflicted wound?
For the record, that isn't a teachable skill. You either have it or you end up on CNN.
We were meeting about the new zoning districts and possible tax breaks to lure new businesses into our area. Have my fingers crossed for Krispy Kreme.
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I wouldn't have known the difference.
He's banking on that. That's Chad's point, I think.
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Look up La Raza.
If a white man joined the same type of group, he'd be run out of office!
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He's banking on that. That's Chad's point, I think.
The two names are very similar. And unusual.
Who cares if they got mixed up? One of my companies shares a similar name with a defunct home building group. When people call our office looking for them we don't rant and rave about their stupidity or call them liars.
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The two names are very similar. And unusual.
Who cares if they got mixed up? One of my companies shares a similar name with a defunct home building group. When people call our office looking for them we don't rant and rave about their stupidity or call them liars.
Actually they are very similar when it comes to hispanic pride!
Let white people create these types of groups and there would be no grace for a "mixup"!
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So again, I'm going to have to explain the difference in a fact and an opinion. This was not an opinion piece. They made a FALSE link between La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and the National Council of La Raza, two completely different things, and purported that they are the same thing. That is a lie. It is presented as fact, but it is UNfactual. They then listed off things they deemed "radical" that this group they claim is associated with Curiel did, but IT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GROUP. That is a false narrative and a lie. It is not fact. And the opposite of fact is not an OPINION. It is a LIE. This was not a theoretical or philosophical explanation for why THEY think Trump or his detractors acted a certain way. They straight up lied. See the difference?
Ahhhhh...
ok....
I see now...
I'm voting Hillary.
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The last couple pages here have me thinking that you're all just trolling Chad at this point. You must be.
Wait, I thought chad was the one trolling them no? I'm confused. And this is kinda fun.
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Here is another example of me providing a sourced FACT to back up my original arguments made on day one. This one is that Trump is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office. I guess I'm gonna have to explicitly explain this from here on out.
Tell me this isn't straight out of Idiocracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qgJYHtYA4
Yes, when someone from the audience yells "No TPP!" Trump replies "No PPP, you're right about that." Then goes off prompter and tells yet another pee-pee joke, "And you mean 'No Pee-Pee'".
:facepalm:
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Here is another example of me providing a sourced FACT to back up my original arguments made on day one. This one is that Trump is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office. I guess I'm gonna have to explicitly explain this from here on out.
Tell me this isn't straight out of Idiocracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qgJYHtYA4
Yes, when someone from the audience yells "No TPP!" Trump replies "No PPP, you're right about that." Then goes off prompter and tells yet another pee-pee joke, "And you mean 'No Pee-Pee'".
:facepalm:
Trump is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office.
This is not a fact. This is your (or someone else's) opinion. It can never be a fact. It will always be someone's assessment or viewpoint.
You don't know a fact from the hole in your anus.
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Keep counting on Trump voters as "the best chance" against Hillary. Don't let those faggoty facts get in the way.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/07/renee-ellmers-loses-north-carolina-gop-primary/
Renee Ellmers loses North Carolina GOP primary
By Catherine Ho June 7 at 10:00 PM
Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-N.C.) lost her June 7 primary despite being the first member of congress to receive an endorsement from Donald Trump. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
Rep. Renee L. Ellmers (R-N.C.) lost her bid for reelection Tuesday, becoming the first GOP congressional incumbent to lose a seat in 2016.
Ellmers, who was elected in 2010 amid the tea party takeover of the House, lost in the Republican primary to Rep. George Holding (R-N.C.) in North Carolina’s 2nd Congressional District, which includes suburban and rural Raleigh.
Holding won with over 53 percent of the vote with 96 percent of precincts reporting, according to the Associated Press. Ellmers was barely clinging to second place ahead of Greg Brannon, edging him by little more than 200 votes.
Brannon previously ran for Senate in 2014 — earning an endorsement from Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky — and lost to Sen. Thom Tillis (R). Brannon ran again this year, losing to Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) in the March Senate primary.
Holding used to represent the 13th Congressional District but chose to run in the 2nd district after court-mandated redistricting took effect earlier this year, prompting an incumbent-versus-incumbent showdown.
In New Jersey’s 1st Congressional District, another incumbent — Rep. Donald W. Norcross (D) — succeeded in moving on to the general election. Norcross beat Democratic insurgent Alex Law, a 25-year-old Bernie Sanders supporter, with 70 percent of the vote with 92 percent of precincts reporting.
Like Sanders, Law generated a grass-roots campaign and small donations, targeting what he called “the political machine†— a reference to the Norcross family’s deep roots in New Jersey politics. Norcross’s brother George Norcross is an influential leader in South Jersey Democratic Party.
California has seen a record 17.9 million voters register ahead of the primary. Voter registration increased for both the Democratic and Republican parties, though a greater percentage registered as Democrats during the final stretch before the primary. Nearly 650,000 people registered in the last 45 days leading up to the registration deadline. Of the people who registered during the final rush, 76 percent were Democrats, according to the California Secretary of State’s office.
Several House GOP incumbents could be impacted by the surge in Democratic voter registration. Though they all appeared poised to advance to the general election as of late Tuesday, the real test will come in November, when the increased number of registered Democrats could help propel their Democratic challengers to victory.
The most vulnerable Republican in that category is Rep. Steve Knight in the 25th Congressional District, which includes northern Los Angeles and Ventura counties. That is largely due to an increase in Latino and Democratic voters in the district, said David Wasserman, a nonpartisan political analyst for the Cook Political Report.
In 2012, the number of registered Republicans in Knight’s district outnumbered Democrats by about 14,000; as of May 2016, Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 3,400.
On Tuesday, Knight finished first with 50.4 percent of the vote with 7 percent of precincts reporting. He will likely face Democrat Bryan Caforio, an attorney, who was in second with 27.8 percent of the vote.
Other House Republicans who may be at risk, but probably less so, are Reps. Jeff Denham and David Valadao, who represent parts of the Central Valley. There, it has been harder to register transient Latinos who work in the agriculture labor force, Wasserman said.
Denham, who represents the 10th Congressional District, appeared close to finishing first with 48.8 percent of the vote with 40 percent of precincts reporting. He will likely face Democrat Michael Eggman, a farmer, who got 27.6 percent of the vote.
Valadao, who represents the 21st Congressional District, came in first with 60.4 percent of the vote with 22 percent of precincts reporting. Daniel Parra, a computer systems analyst and city councilmember in Fowler, Calif., was second with 21.2 percent of the vote.
Rep. Darrell Issa’s reelection is another one to watch. The 49th Congressional District includes parts of San Diego and Orange counties. Issa has been a staunch Trump supporter and, come November, there could be blowback from voters that could benefit Democratic challenger Doug Applegate.
Issa was leading as of late Tuesday with 53.9 percent of the vote with 7 percent of precincts reporting, followed by Applegate, an attorney and retired Marine colonel, who received 43 percent of the vote.
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy was on track to advance to the general election representing the California’s 23rd district. As of late Tuesday, he had 59.2 percent of the vote with 22 percent of precincts reporting. McCarthy will likely face Democratic challenger Wendy Reed, a businesswoman, who garnered 25.4 percent of the vote.
Even though McCarthy did not face a well-funded challenger Tuesday, he nonetheless spent $2.1 million between Jan. 1 and mid-May to strengthen his standing, running TV and radio ads in the final days before the primary.
In the Bay Area, Democratic incumbent Rep. Mike Honda looks to be once again facing challenger Ro Khanna, an attorney who nearly beat him in 2014, come November. As of late Tuesday, Honda and Khanna were almost neck-in-neck in California’s 17th Congressional District, with Honda narrowly edging out Khanna, 38.4 to 37.6 percent, with 23 percent of precincts reporting.
In North Carolina, Ellmers recently became the target of intense opposition from conservative groups who once supported her initial rise to office, including the Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity, Club for Growth and antiabortion organizations. They say Ellmers failed to follow through on the commitment to conservative values she promoted when first elected.
To add another wrinkle to the unusual race, Donald Trump endorsed Ellmers on Saturday, the first time the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has weighed in on a congressional race. Ellmers was the first woman in Congress to endorse Trump in March.
Ellmers’s loss is a victory for some of the same forces that elevated her to office to begin with.
When she ran six years ago, Ellmers joined the bus tour hosted by AFP that traveled the country railing against President Obama’s health-care law. She later spoke at rallies hosted or co-sponsored by the group and promoted AFP events. In 2010, she even nabbed an endorsement from Sarah Palin.
This year, AFP was one of the main players in the costly crusade that successfully ousted Ellmers in the group’s premier foray to defeat an incumbent in a Republican race. Others that took on the congresswoman include the Club for Growth and the antiabortion National Right to Life and Susan B. Anthony List.
This constellation of conservative groups had a single message for voters: Their congresswoman, they said, has “gone Washington.†They took firm issue with Ellmers’s vote to renew the Export-Import Bank and her support for the 2016 budget and allege that she is too close to the House GOP leadership.
“Renee Ellmers — in 2009 and 2010, she came to AFP events and touted her conservative values,†said AFP president Tim Phillips before the primary. “And she hasn’t kept her word on that.â€
Last month, Ellmers acknowledged she had “become this poster child†for conservative fury and argues that’s because she refused to do the bidding of special interests in Washington.
“Apparently [it’s] because I’m not beholden to any of them. I’m not beholden to my House Republican leadership. I am not beholden to the special interest groups,†she said in an interview before a town hall here last week.
“I absolutely refuse to feel the pressure they put on other members to vote the way they want them to vote. I don’t care about the scorecards that they keep. And because I have been so vocal about it, I believe this is the reason they’re coming at me. Because I have been pointing out what so many others are too afraid to say, which is that special interest groups want to control members of Congress.â€
Holding also had a significant financial advantage. He raised nearly $295,000 in April and May, compared to Ellmers, who raised just $27,000 during the same period, according to FEC filings.
The American Foundations Committee, a super PAC, spent $189,000 backing his campaign and $113,000 opposing Ellmers’s, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The group also backed Holding’s 2012 campaign, and a number of its donors are members of the Holding family, which has maintained a controlling stake in Raleigh-based First Citizens Bank for three generations.
Club for Growth’s super PAC spent about $700,000 on television and digital ads to defeat Ellmers. They criticized Ellmers for being “too liberal for North Carolina†and says she’s “become part of the problem in Washington.â€
Again. What I present are facts. Statistics. Numbers. Factual occurrences. As was obvious to the non-braindead from day one, Trump is a disaster. Expect Democrats to clean house at the local level with people coming out in droves to vote against Trump. This is what you wanted.
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Trump is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office.
This is not a fact. This is your (or someone else's) opinion. It can never be a fact. It will always be someone's assessment or viewpoint.
You don't know a fact from the hole in your anus.
You are being willfully ignorant. You do this often.
You cut and pasted what I said to fit your bullshit argument.
Allow me to break this down for you like you have the intelligence of a retarded 5th grader, which you are demonstrating to me that you do.
I said:
Here is another example of me providing a sourced FACT (sourced fact: the video evidence of Trump's idiocy in full context. Not a blog spinning it to fit a narrative. Straight from the horse's mouth.) to back up my original arguments made on day one. This one is that Trump is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office. (My original ARGUMENT which is that Trump doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office) I guess I'm gonna have to explicitly explain this from here on out.
You can't be as stupid as you're pretending here. You know the difference in the FACT that Trump said this idiotic shit (among hundreds of other examples), and my OPINION that he "is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office". You know that my OPINION is reasonably backed up by these FACTS that I'm presenting.
Seriously, if you don't understand this 3rd grade concept you should remove yourself from the gene pool, lest we end up with presidential candidates like Trump.
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Keep counting on Trump voters as "the best chance" against Hillary. Don't let those faggoty facts get in the way.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/07/renee-ellmers-loses-north-carolina-gop-primary/
Again. What I present are facts. Statistics. Numbers. Factual occurrences. As was obvious to the non-braindead from day one, Trump is a disaster. Expect Democrats to clean house at the local level with people coming out in droves to vote against Trump. This is what you wanted.
No, they are not facts.
You're drawing parallels between things that may have no relation whatsoever.
Bruce Pearl was at the Auburn softball game last night. Therefore he was the spark for the offense. Bruce Pearl is the reason Auburn won.
My dog is brown. My grass needs to be cut. Brown dogs cause grass to grow.
Ellmers was running a doomed campaign as far back as February. She voted for Kasich and then bowed and scraped to Trump hoping to save her political career. His "endorsement" wasn't going to save her no matter what. She had no chance.
Of course more democrats than republicans are registering. Are you dense? There's still a viable campaign on that side. The Bernie people wanted to stop Clinton and verce visa. There's no contest on the republican side. Those new people won't show back up in the general.
Your "facts" are idiotic.
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You are being willfully ignorant. You do this often.
You cut and pasted what I said to fit your bullshit argument.
Allow me to break this down for you like you have the intelligence of a retarded 5th grader, which you are demonstrating to me that you do.
I said:
You can't be as stupid as you're pretending here. You know the difference in the FACT that Trump said this idiotic shit (among hundreds of other examples), and my OPINION that he "is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office". You know that my OPINION is reasonably backed up by these FACTS that I'm presenting.
Seriously, if you don't understand this 3rd grade concept you should remove yourself from the gene pool, lest we end up with presidential candidates like Trump.
You haven't presented a fact. You've presented your opinion and used a video as evidence that you think supports that opinion. That it doesn't matters not to you.
I could take random clips of Reagan making off hand comments over the years and present as "fact" that he was a lunatic and unfit for the job. I'd be just as wrong as you continually are.
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No, they are not facts.
You're drawing parallels between things that may have no relation whatsoever.
Bruce Pearl was at the Auburn softball game last night. Therefore he was the spark for the offense. Bruce Pearl is the reason Auburn won.
My dog is brown. My grass needs to be cut. Brown dogs cause grass to grow.
They are facts. That you can't differentiate between empirical facts and what I am reasonably infer from them is not my problem.
Those new people won't show back up in the general.
Care to wager?
You're inferences are based on your fee-fees and bullheaded dogmatic beliefs. Counter to facts.
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They are facts. That you can't differentiate between empirical facts and what I am reasonably infer from them is not my problem.
Care to wager?
You're inferences are based on your fee-fees and bullheaded dogmatic beliefs. Counter to facts.
I reasonably infer that my grass grows because my dog is brown. He's in the back yard. He is brown. The grass grows there. Obviously cause and effect.
You have no facts, only hysterical opinions and wishful thinking.
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Care to wager?
Gambling is illegal at Bushwood......However hiring illegals is not.
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Keep counting on Trump voters as "the best chance" against Hillary. Don't let those faggoty facts get in the way.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/07/renee-ellmers-loses-north-carolina-gop-primary/
Again. What I present are facts. Statistics. Numbers. Factual occurrences. As was obvious to the non-braindead from day one, Trump is a disaster. Expect Democrats to clean house at the local level with people coming out in droves to vote against Trump. This is what you wanted.
Ok so tarheel can prob elaborate on this one more than I but anyone following that race can tell you Ellmers was in big big trouble well before trump endorsed her. Actually his endorsement was a last ditch effort to try and help her. She was just whipped that badly trump or not. And would have been regardless. He had a very minor role in this one.
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Ok so tarheel can prob elaborate on this one more than I but anyone following that race can tell you Ellmers was in big big trouble well before trump endorsed her. Actually his endorsement was a last ditch effort to try and help her. She was just whipped that badly trump or not. And would have been regardless. He had a very minor role in this one.
Wait...this is the Washington Post. It's all fact! It's not some stupid opinion blog.
DUMB ASS!!! You stupid inbreds just don't get it!
Hillary '16
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Wait? But it's the Washington Post. Don't they print all fact? It's not some stupid opinion blog.
DUMB ASS!!! You stupid inbreds just don't get it!
Hillary '16
Just trying to keep it objective.
If these two in this thread would cool their jets for a minute with the personal insults and just stick to honest debate instead of making it an insult laden pissing contest, they may meet in the middle more than they realize.
And yes, I've done it in the past as well to a degree. But I also realize it's counter productive to do so. I don't agree with Wes on much of this stuff at all but I respect his opinion and the way he presents it.
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Man, did you just lose all credibility, or what?
No shit!
I mean...
Aww...snags, you can leave the insult up. I'm not offended nor do i need a safe space.
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Facts don't cease to be facts because they don't support your theories.
What specifically did the Washington Post print that is unfactual?
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Facts don't cease to be facts because they don't support your theories.
What specifically did the Washington Post print that is unfactual?
Context.
Quote mining.
"Leading" readers.
They all have a huge effect.
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Context.
Quote mining.
"Leading" readers.
They all have a huge effect.
Bullshit.
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No shit!
I mean...
Aww...snags, you can leave the insult up. I'm not offended nor do i need a safe space.
Was going to add to it and hit the wrong button. Twice.
I have trouble making reservations and posting insults at the same time. June 22-26. Beerz.
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Was going to add to it and hit the wrong button. Twice.
I have trouble making reservations and posting insults at the same time. June 22-26. Beerz.
Fucking A.
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Facts don't cease to be facts because they don't support your theories.
What specifically did the Washington Post print that is unfactual?
When you present a fact we can open this discussion.
Still waiting.
My dog is brown. Fact. One fact more than you have yet provided.
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Bullshit.
al.com stands up and salutes you. Because a "news source" would never show any bias.
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When you present a fact we can open this discussion.
Still waiting.
My dog is brown. Fact. One fact more than you have yet provided.
So Trump didn't say the things in the video?
Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?
Trump didn't endorse Ellmers?
Ellmers didn't lose her primary as an encumbant?
You can disagree with anything extrapolated from those facts, but you can't deny they are facts.
You're beclowning yourself.
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al.com stands up and salutes you. Because a "news source" would never show any bias.
Specify.
You don't get to just bark "BIAS! MISLEADING! QUOTE MINING! OUT OF CONTEXT!" without offering ANY specific examples or proof.
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So Trump didn't say the things in the video?
Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?
Trump didn't endorse Ellmers?
Ellmers didn't lose her primary as an encumbant?
You can disagree with anything extrapolated from those facts, but you can't deny they are facts.
You're beclowning yourself.
Here is what I mean...
Fact: Trump Endorsed Ellmers.
Fact: Ellmers lost as an sitting legislator.
Inference Drawn/Opinion USING the above facts as a basis: The endorsement caused Ellmers to lose.
The inference drawn by using a fact. But saying she lost because of trump is not a fact. And they wrote the article is such a manner to lead readers to believe that. That is not bullshit. It happens all the time. Michael Moore has made a career of it.
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Here is what I mean...
Fact: Trump Endorsed Ellmers.
Fact: Ellmers lost as an sitting legislator.
Inference Drawn/Opinion USING the above facts as a basis: The endorsement caused Ellmers to lose.
The inference drawn by using a fact. But saying she lost because of trump is not a fact. And they wrote the article is such a manner to lead readers to believe that. That is not bullshit. It happens all the time. Michael Moore has made a career of it.
See also, La Raza.
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So Trump didn't say the things in the video?
Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?
Trump didn't endorse Ellmers?
Ellmers didn't lose her primary as an encumbant?
You can disagree with anything extrapolated from those facts, but you can't deny they are facts.
You're beclowning yourself.
1. No one said he didn't. Those quotes do not equate to "oh god he can't be president!" That is your opinion of his comments. Others might hear them and be inclined to.vote for him. Again you are arrogantly inserting your own interpretation as the only interpretation that has value.
2. The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true. Aka: who gives a fuck? No cause and effect.
3. He did. Sunday. The race was over. It was an act of kindness. Nothing more.
4. The race was over months ago. Not because of Trump.
Your dumbassity is in full effect today.
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1. No one said he didn't. Those quotes do not equate to "oh god he can't be president!" That is your opinion of his comments. Others might hear them and be inclined to.vote for him. Again you are arrogantly inserting your own interpretation as the only interpretation that has value.
2. The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true. Aka: who gives a fuck? No cause and effect.
3. He did. Sunday. The race was over. It was an act of kindness. Nothing more.
4. The race was over months ago. Not because of Trump.
Your dumbassity is in full effect today.
You presented no facts. But I wholeheartedly agree!
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Here is what I mean...
Fact: Trump Endorsed Ellmers.
Fact: Ellmers lost as an sitting legislator.
Inference Drawn/Opinion USING the above facts as a basis: The endorsement caused Ellmers to lose.
The inference drawn by using a fact. But saying she lost because of trump is not a fact. And they wrote the article is such a manner to lead readers to believe that. That is not bullshit. It happens all the time. Michael Moore has made a career of it.
I just said:
So Trump didn't say the things in the video?
Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?
Trump didn't endorse Ellmers?
Ellmers didn't lose her primary as an encumbant?
You can disagree with anything extrapolated from those facts, but you can't deny they are facts.
That said, you are implying that they are actively leading the reader to a conclusion that I don't think they are. You seem to be suggesting it's irresponsible for the media to report on the FACT that Trump's endorsement didn't save her. There may be other facts that you're privy to that lead you to another conclusion, but the plenty of reports (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/05/ellmers-trump-campaigns-grass-roots/) in the media was predicting she would receive a "Trump Bump" (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/trump-ellmers-north-carolina-house/485894/) prior to the election and that didn't happen. Reporting the fact that it didn't happen is hardly biased or misleading and certainly isn't nonfactual. Additionally, the interpretation that it is a referendum on Trump (although that's not one they are explicitly making here), is and was widely inferred from this decision BEFORE it was finalized. The links I just posted, among others, point out that her opponent was decidedly anti-Trump and before the fact it was billed as a referendum on Trump's popularity. Now that he lost, apparently that interpretation is asinine. O...K...
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See also, La Raza.
Not even a good comparison. The La Raza thing was intentionally tying the judge to a group he was not a part of, counter to fact. It was factually inaccurate.
Even what GH alleges, which as I just mentioned, I disagree with, not one FACT is false.
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1. No one said he didn't. Those quotes do not equate to "oh god he can't be president!" That is your opinion of his comments. Others might hear them and be inclined to.vote for him. Again you are arrogantly inserting your own interpretation as the only interpretation that has value.
2. The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true. Aka: who gives a fuck? No cause and effect.
3. He did. Sunday. The race was over. It was an act of kindness. Nothing more.
4. The race was over months ago. Not because of Trump.
Your dumbassity is in full effect today.
Everything I listed was a FACT.
Everything you listed was an OPINION.
I didn't think they let people past the 3rd grade with your level of understanding of these concepts.
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You presented no facts. But I wholeheartedly agree!
I suspect that is sarcasm, which is extra hilarious.
I never knew so many adults struggled with such simple elementary school concepts.
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1. No one said he didn't. Those quotes do not equate to "oh god he can't be president!" That is your opinion of his comments. Others might hear them and be inclined to.vote for him. Again you are arrogantly inserting your own interpretation as the only interpretation that has value.
We've spent all day on a meta-argument about the very simple fundamental misunderstanding of facts vs. opinions vs. inferences vs. lies.
Now defend Trump not knowing what the TPP is enough to not call it the PPP, and then literally call it "pee pee" from behind a podium.
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Fucking 30A.
teh fixt. For snags.
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We've spent all day on a meta-argument about the very simple fundamental misunderstanding of facts vs. opinions vs. inferences vs. lies.
Now defend Trump not knowing what the TPP is enough to not call it the PPP, and then literally call it "pee pee" from behind a podium.
Why?
I don't care that he acted goofy. It didn't bother me. There's nothing to defend.
At least he's not Hellary.
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See also, La Raza.
No that's fair enough. But trump didn't write an article. He's not the media. Yeah, I know same concept. He may done the same thing from his bully pulpit. I don't know. Depends on if you think he's an idiot who truly didn't know the difference. Or if he did know the difference and wanted people to think otherwise. If the latter, then sure, I'll concede it is very very similar and dishonest. La Raza is so generic that I am not sure anyone really thought about it that much. They just heard the term and automatically thought "that's that radical Hispanic club!"
I'll admit when I first heard he was "in la Raza" that was the first thing I thought too. Until I looked into it a little bit further and read a red state article that cleared it up.
Regardless I think the media has a higher standard than anyone else to report the truth even more than these candidates. Millions of people rely on the media for truth and news. And many take things for what they are worth without looking into them further.
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Not even a good comparison. The La Raza thing was intentionally tying the judge to a group he was not a part of, counter to fact. It was factually inaccurate.
Even what GH alleges, which as I just mentioned, I disagree with, not one FACT is false.
Just to be fair I would be taking this same stance if the parties, views, candidates were all different. Just trying to call it like I'm seeing it from the outside.
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Everything I listed was a FACT.
Everything you listed was an OPINION.
I didn't think they let people past the 3rd grade with your level of understanding of these concepts.
Oh, so the Republican race isn't over. I said he didn't say the quotes he said in the video.
Trump didn't endorse whoozit on Sunday. People weren't saying she'd blown her shot as far back as February?
Oh it is? I didn't? He did? They were? Well fuck me sideways. So.... All those things are facts.
And then I extrapolated.
Please tell your first grade teacher you'd like a refund for your crayons and word books. You never even used them.
Another fact. Your dumbassity is rampant today. You need some pills for that.
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While Trump messes up tpp or la Raza or picks the next petty fight with someone, on the other side there is this:
(http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1359066671803911826.jpg)
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Oh, so the Republican race isn't over. I said he didn't say the quotes he said in the video.
Trump didn't endorse whoozit on Sunday. People weren't saying she'd blown her shot as far back as February?
Oh it is? I didn't? He did? They were? Well fuck me sideways. So.... All those things are facts.
And then I extrapolated.
Please tell your first grade teacher you'd like a refund for your crayons and word books. You never even used them.
Another fact. Your dumbassity is rampant today. You need some pills for that.
You said "extrapolated". That buzzword is soooooo 2010. The new buzz phrase is "start a dialogue".
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You said "extrapolated". That buzzword is soooooo 2010. The new buzz phrase is "start a dialogue".
I'm trying wrap my mind around that.
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I'm trying wrap my mind around that.
Let's have that conversation man. Let's start a dialogue.
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Let's have that conversation man. Let's start a dialogue.
I ain't tryin' to hear dat.
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I ain't tryin' to hear dat.
My 6 year old hellion starts conversations by simply asking for money from lawyers that care. Cherry and Irwin want none of that deal.
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My 6 year old hellion starts conversations by simply asking for money from lawyers that care. Cherry and Irwin want none of that deal.
Little schyster, that kid of yours. I'm still missing my wallet.
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Oh, so the Republican race isn't over. I said he didn't say the quotes he said in the video.
Trump didn't endorse whoozit on Sunday. People weren't saying she'd blown her shot as far back as February?
Oh it is? I didn't? He did? They were? Well fuck me sideways. So.... All those things are facts.
And then I extrapolated.
None of those things were your overarching point. Which is why I never disputed those in spite of your bullshit strawman.
Forgive the scattered nature in my replies to you. You've learned a lot from Trump by using the tactic of just vomiting such a constant stream of bullshit and nonfactual information it is impossible to keep up and leave a mark on the conversation before you've moved on to 15 more lies and mischaracterizations.
Here is what you said, which you poorly summarized in the quote above:
1. No one said he didn't. Those quotes do not equate to "oh god he can't be president!" That is your opinion of his comments. Others might hear them and be inclined to.vote for him. Again you are arrogantly inserting your own interpretation as the only interpretation that has value.
The purpose of this bullet point is not merely to present a fact. You are saying that you can't infer from the video that making a "pee pee" joke about the Trans Pacific Pipeline, which he called the PPP, and then the "pee pee" is any indication that he is a living incarnation of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. I reject that opinion, but you have a right to have it and I never said otherwise.
But since you mention it, you kind of DID say he didn't say it, or at least that the video I presented of him saying it is not a fact. You responded to me posting the video and explicitly saying:
Here is another example of me providing a sourced FACT to back up my original arguments made on day one. This one is that Trump is a complete idiot who doesn't know shit about shit and is entirely unfit for office. I guess I'm gonna have to explicitly explain this from here on out.
With:
This is not a fact. This is your (or someone else's) opinion. It can never be a fact. It will always be someone's assessment or viewpoint.
Demonstrating a clear misunderstanding of facts vs. opinions, or just flat-out willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. Can't be neither.
Also:
You haven't presented a fact. You've presented your opinion and used a video as evidence that you think supports that opinion. That it doesn't matters not to you.
I could take random clips of Reagan making off hand comments over the years and present as "fact" that he was a lunatic and unfit for the job. I'd be just as wrong as you continually are.
Again saying what transpired in the video isn't a fact. For the 10 millionth time, I presented my OPINION that he's a fucking idiot months ago. Introduced the video, a FACT, that supports that opinion.
And again, you said that nothing I presented to the discussion was factual.
When you present a fact we can open this discussion.
Still waiting.
My dog is brown. Fact. One fact more than you have yet provided.
You said it like 15 more times in this thread over the last two days. I think I can stop posting them now.
Moving on:
2. The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true. Aka: who gives a fuck? No cause and effect.
Not a fact. As we've established, Registered Democrats (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/trumps-strongest-republican-supporters-registered-democrats/) were the difference-makers in the Trump election. This was omitted from your later summary of "facts" in this post, presumably because you knew it was unfactual.
3. He did. Sunday. The race was over. It was an act of kindness. Nothing more.
4. The race was over months ago. Not because of Trump.
This is redundant, so I'll just quote them together. Obviously, I did not dispute the day on the calendar that he made the endorsement. That fact is also not at all the point of your OPINION that it was futile at that point because it was "already decided". No data supports this OPINION, by the way. Just your gut fee-fees.
You're being a slippery shit and you know it. I was superfluously clear that I had an OPINION on Trump that I expressed in the very first post in the very first thread about him. Every bit of new evidence I submit are FACTS to support that opinion. The video. His endorsement. The election results. They are FACTS. My OPINION, which was formed before those facts, are supported by those facts. I said repeatedly you can disagree with them, but my OPINION is that you would have to IGNORE THE FACTS in order to reasonably do so.
I'm done with this meta-argument because there is no way you can be as water-headedly ignorant as you are purporting here and I've already spent way too much of everyone's time pointing out what a dishonest fuckstick you're being.
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It's OK, I'm not a member of the KKK, I'm a member of the KKK lawyers Association! Ba ha ha ha ha !
Trump is spot on about this pro Mexican judge!
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None of those things were your overarching point. Which is why I never disputed those in spite of your bullshit strawman.
Forgive the scattered nature in my replies to you. You've learned a lot from Trump by using the tactic of just vomiting such a constant stream of bullshit and nonfactual information it is impossible to keep up and leave a mark on the conversation before you've moved on to 15 more lies and mischaracterizations.
Here is what you said, which you poorly summarized in the quote above:The purpose of this bullet point is not merely to present a fact. You are saying that you can't infer from the video that making a "pee pee" joke about the Trans Pacific Pipeline, which he called the PPP, and then the "pee pee" is any indication that he is a living incarnation of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. I reject that opinion, but you have a right to have it and I never said otherwise.
But since you mention it, you kind of DID say he didn't say it, or at least that the video I presented of him saying it is not a fact. You responded to me posting the video and explicitly saying:With:Demonstrating a clear misunderstanding of facts vs. opinions, or just flat-out willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. Can't be neither.
Also:Again saying what transpired in the video isn't a fact. For the 10 millionth time, I presented my OPINION that he's a fucking idiot months ago. Introduced the video, a FACT, that supports that opinion.
And again, you said that nothing I presented to the discussion was factual.You said it like 15 more times in this thread over the last two days. I think I can stop posting them now.
Moving on:
Not a fact. As we've established, Registered Democrats (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/trumps-strongest-republican-supporters-registered-democrats/) were the difference-makers in the Trump election. This was omitted from your later summary of "facts" in this post, presumably because you knew it was unfactual.
This is redundant, so I'll just quote them together. Obviously, I did not dispute the day on the calendar that he made the endorsement. That fact is also not at all the point of your OPINION that it was futile at that point because it was "already decided". No data supports this OPINION, by the way. Just your gut fee-fees.
You're being a slippery shit and you know it. I was superfluously clear that I had an OPINION on Trump that I expressed in the very first post in the very first thread about him. Every bit of new evidence I submit are FACTS to support that opinion. The video. His endorsement. The election results. They are FACTS. My OPINION, which was formed before those facts, are supported by those facts. I said repeatedly you can disagree with them, but my OPINION is that you would have to IGNORE THE FACTS in order to reasonably do so.
I'm done with this meta-argument because there is no way you can be as water-headedly ignorant as you are purporting here and I've already spent way too much of everyone's time pointing out what a dishonest fuckstick you're being.
Settle down there Quote-zilla
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Oh dear GOD...
:facepalm:
None of those things were your overarching point. Which is why I never disputed those in spite of your bullshit strawman.
Forgive the scattered nature in my replies to you. You've learned a lot from Trump by using the tactic of just vomiting such a constant stream of bullshit and nonfactual information it is impossible to keep up and leave a mark on the conversation before you've moved on to 15 more lies and mischaracterizations.
Here is what you said, which you poorly summarized in the quote above:The purpose of this bullet point is not merely to present a fact. You are saying that you can't infer from the video that making a "pee pee" joke about the Trans Pacific Pipeline, which he called the PPP, and then the "pee pee" is any indication that he is a living incarnation of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. I reject that opinion, but you have a right to have it and I never said otherwise.
But since you mention it, you kind of DID say he didn't say it, or at least that the video I presented of him saying it is not a fact. You responded to me posting the video and explicitly saying:With:Demonstrating a clear misunderstanding of facts vs. opinions, or just flat-out willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. Can't be neither,
Also:Again saying what transpired in the video isn't a fact. For the 10 millionth time, I presented my OPINION that he's a fucking idiot months ago. Introduced the video, a FACT, that supports that opinion.
What if he just didn't give a shit about what some random fucker screamed out and made a wisecrack? What if that's all it was?
Your "he is a dumbass because THIS happened..." does not rise to the level of fact. And it never will.
And again, you said that nothing I presented to the discussion was factual.You said it like 15 more times in this thread over the last two days. I think I can stop posting them now.
You posted a video. He made a joke.
It's your hysterical (both in the funny and dramatic sense) cause and effect argument that fails on every level. You've YET to comprehend that despite having pictures drawn for you.
Moving on:
Not a fact. As we've established, Registered Democrats (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/trumps-strongest-republican-supporters-registered-democrats/) were the difference-makers in the Trump election. This was omitted from your later summary of "facts" in this post, presumably because you knew it was unfactual.
I have no idea what you're even taking about. Who said democrats were his strongest supporters? You? I didn't. I don't know anybody who did. You tried to cobble together some ridiculous babble about some whore in some state losing an election when Trump endorsed her on SUNDAY as being clear and convincing evidence that he cannot draw voters. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on here. For a while I thought I was arguing with a short-armed early adopter again.
This is redundant, so I'll just quote them together. Obviously, I did not dispute the day on the calendar that he made the endorsement. That fact is also not at all the point of your OPINION that it was futile at that point because it was "already decided". No data supports this OPINION, by the way. Just your gut fee-fees.
Are you FUCKING NUTS? I spent two minutes on the googles and found multiple articles dating back to February or March discussing the rise and fall of her candidacy and how she had betrayed her base. I'm not going to link them. Do your own work. Found a few opinion pieces on what she'd done wrong and what it was going to cost her. Maybe if you spent a little less time looking for Trump videos....
You're being a slippery shit and you know it. I was superfluously clear that I had an OPINION on Trump that I expressed in the very first post in the very first thread about him. Every bit of new evidence I submit are FACTS to support that opinion. The video. His endorsement. The election results. They are FACTS. My OPINION, which was formed before those facts, are supported by those facts. I said repeatedly you can disagree with them, but my OPINION is that you would have to IGNORE THE FACTS in order to reasonably do so.
The FACT you posted does not support your OPINION.
Your opinion was pre-concieved and you're trying to retro fit what you find to salve your torn feelings.
I'm done with this meta-argument because there is no way you can be as water-headedly ignorant as you are purporting here and I've already spent way too much of everyone's time pointing out what a dishonest fuckstick you're being.
You're the dishonest one. You're also coming off as astoundingly arrogant. Look above. I don't agree with your position and I'm ignorant and waterheaded. Whether you want to accept or acknowledge it or not, that's a prototypical leftist tactic. You denigrate the opinion of others in an attempt to elevate yours. You brand anyone who disagrees with you as ignorant, backward, regressive, racist, xena the warrior princess, dense, vulgar,phobic, yada yada yada.
You've thrown that dirt at me and several others. Can't speak for them, but I haven't thrown it back (much).
I've been 1000% transparent. I'm no Trump supporter, but unless he murders somebody on the campaign trail or is caught selling state secrets then he's a better option than Hillary. There is nothing you can say, nothing you can post, no "gotcha" Trump-makes-a-bad-joke video you can scrounge up that will change that FACT.
One day you're going to learn that there are other opinions out there just as intelligent, just as sane, just as rational, just as considered as yours. And on that day you'll open yourself to the idea that legitimate debate, debate sans the name-calling, can actually accomplish something. That will be a good day. It took me a while to get there. And I'm still not quite where I want to be. But I'm willing to listen now on most topics. Just not this one. I know what I know. And I would vote for the bastard child of Charles Manson and Lady Gaga over Hillary Fucking Clinton. Therefore Trump is my guy.
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Obama:
Arrogant, condescending, empty suit, cock smoker.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/09/barack-obama-donald-trump-jimmy-fallon-tonight-show/85638470/
Making the same "I'm better and smarter than you" argument we've seen here.
Fuck that clown.
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Your "he is a dumbass because THIS happened..." does not rise to the level of fact. And it never will.
You CANNOT LET THIS IGNORANT FUCKING STRAWMAN GO, can you?
Every attempt to resurrect it makes you look stupider and stupider. For fuck's sake, stop it. It's hard to watch.
You posted a video. He made a joke.
It's your hysterical (both in the funny and dramatic sense) cause and effect argument that fails on every level. You've YET to comprehend that despite having pictures drawn for you.
This makes 10 billion and one times, starting with the very first time I posted the video, that I explicitly said THE VIDEO is a fact. And that fact supports my OPINION that I had already established on page one of the first fucking thread that he's a buffoon.
Because ad-hominems are another concept some of you simply cannot grasp, I try to stay away from insults. But after the 10 billion and first time of spelling this out so that a retarded 5 year old can understand it, and yet, you still flatly refuse to, I am left with no choice but to call you a blithering idiot. There is nothing left to say.
I have no idea what you're even taking about. Who said democrats were his strongest supporters? You? I didn't. I don't know anybody who did. You tried to cobble together some ridiculous babble about some whore in some state losing an election when Trump endorsed her on SUNDAY as being clear and convincing evidence that he cannot draw voters. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on here. For a while I thought I was arguing with a short-armed early adopter again.
You see, the way the Internet works, when a word or phrase is in a different color? Those are called hyperlinks (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hyperlink) [hahy-per-lingk]. They take you to places that sometimes contain facts. It is used as a shorthand way to prove you are fucking wrong without wasting more space than necessary.
In this case, the hyperlink pointed to this story.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/trumps-strongest-republican-supporters-registered-democrats/
Here is a picture, since you don't read too good.
(http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/nc.jpg)
We discussed this at length when you and others were blathering on about how the election was rigged because Trump wasn't on their ballot, and it turned out that it was because THEY WERE REGISTERED DEMOCRATS. We discussed this at length.
Here is CCTAU linking to redstatewatcher.com to express outrage at the "controversy":
Are the rules really being abused?
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=15080
Here is where I introduce FACTS to the conversation:
Democrats propping up the easy target (this is corroborated by the fact that so many Trump supporters bitched up a storm because they were REGISTERED DEMOCRATS and Trump wasn't showing up on their Democratic closed primary ballots (http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/03/15/ohio-florida-voters-rubio-kasich-home-states-lead.cnn). See: Idiots)
You may have missed it due to your confusion as to what the fuck is a hyperlink.
Try clicking this one:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/03/15/ohio-florida-voters-rubio-kasich-home-states-lead.cnn
These are facts.
Your "instict" that prior to Trump locking down the nomination, Republicans were out-registering Democrats, is false. It is untrue. It is a mistruth. It is nonfactual. Unfactual. Not a fact. If you're going to attempt to post some bullshit "gut feeling" that is verifiably true or false, I suggest you learn what a hyperlink is. People who are interested in truth and facts use them to back up their claims. You never do because you spout bullshit and never cite an actual fact. Your glaring fundamental misunderstanding of facts and links explains why we have gone on for fucking 5 pages of you clinging to your ignorance.
Are you FUCKING NUTS? I spent two minutes on the googles and found multiple articles dating back to February or March discussing the rise and fall of her candidacy and how she had betrayed her base. I'm not going to link them. Do your own work. Found a few opinion pieces on what she'd done wrong and what it was going to cost her. Maybe if you spent a little less time looking for Trump videos....
What is a link?!? I posted links saying the opposite. You refuse to post links because facts are for fags. Guess we should assume my links are bullshit but the ones that exist in your mind are the Gospel.
Here are 497,000 more links for you.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ellmers+trump
All reached the same conclusion based on the same facts. I'm sure redlibertyfreedom.rightwing.biz has some retroactive bullshit about how Trump actually brought her numbers up from wherever they were, but I can't find it, and it speaks more to your understanding of facts and the types of publications that print them and the ones that don't.
The FACT you posted does not support your OPINION.
Your opinion was pre-concieved and you're trying to retro fit what you find to salve your torn feelings.
It does. You're wrong. You're always wrong. You are wrong more often than you exhale in a day.
There are no torn feelings. It was clear from the first day Donald's stupid face stepped onto a debate stage. He is not an intelligent person. Now you're gonna pretend like this one video is the only fact I've presented to support that, err, oh wait, it's not a fact at all, err...it's an opinon...err...durr...
Frankly, I'm fucking astounded at this entire quote block. I read it like 5 times and LOLed every one. Facts that support an opinion DON'T support an opinion, they just "retro-fit what you find to salve your torn feelings". LOLok. Seriously, a two year old has a better concept of reality than you do. You are mentally ill.
You're the dishonest one. You're also coming off as astoundingly arrogant. Look above. I don't agree with your position and I'm ignorant and waterheaded. Whether you want to accept or acknowledge it or not, that's a prototypical leftist tactic. You denigrate the opinion of others in an attempt to elevate yours. You brand anyone who disagrees with you as ignorant, backward, regressive, racist, xena the warrior princess, dense, vulgar,phobic, yada yada yada.
You've thrown that dirt at me and several others. Can't speak for them, but I haven't thrown it back (much).
First of all, I could go back and highlight the multiple times you call me stupid or nuts in this one post, or quote the 10,000 or so times you and others called me that or worse throughout these threads. When you do it ad-hominem, it's fine. When I do it after you refuse to acknowledge the fundamental definition of what a FACT is, a third grade concept, I'm the asshole.
I have never. Read: Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever said that having an opinion one way or another is ignorant. I'm saying flatly refusing to acknowledge facts is ignorant. Because it is the fucking textbook definition of ignorance. You can't even acknowledge the fact of what is a fact. That's next-level ignorance. Whether it's willful or not, I've given you the benefit of the doubt. Any OPINION on how to handle the debt or what the tax structure should look like, or even how to handle transgenders in the bathroom is not ignorant. Flatly denying facts IS ignorant. See how that works? Or are you ignorant?
What I suspect it actually is, is your bullheaded flat refusal to admit you're wrong, so when you get painted into a corner with your specious bullshit arguments, and I don't just let them slide like I'm sure you're used to, we end up in a place where we argue for five pages on "WHut is a fact". If you possessed the teensy tiniest bit of humility to admit when your arguments are defeated and you are flatly WRONG about something, we wouldn't have to go round and round until you willfully look like a drooling idiot who doesn't understand what words mean.
I've been 1000% transparent. I'm no Trump supporter, but unless he murders somebody on the campaign trail or is caught selling state secrets then he's a better option than Hillary. There is nothing you can say, nothing you can post, no "gotcha" Trump-makes-a-bad-joke video you can scrounge up that will change that FACT.
Cool, bro. You're the loyal drone that will support him even if he "stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoots somebody" (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/). What a point of pride to be so loyal to your Führer as to do zero critical thinking, and not let any badthoughts about him enter your skull. So enlightened! By the way, I say this to loyal Bernie or Hillary or even Gary Johnson supporters. Facts matter. Assessing their intelligence, professionalism, character, ability to perform the tasks that being President of the United States entails matter. Anyone with your type of proudly blind loyalty to ANY presidential candidate is disgusting to me. And more importantly is exactly how we got to this trainwreck of a 2016 election.
One day you're going to learn that there are other opinions out there just as intelligent, just as sane, just as rational, just as considered as yours. And on that day you'll open yourself to the idea that legitimate debate, debate sans the name-calling, can actually accomplish something. That will be a good day. It took me a while to get there. And I'm still not quite where I want to be. But I'm willing to listen now on most topics. Just not this one. I know what I know. And I would vote for the bastard child of Charles Manson and Lady Gaga over Hillary Fucking Clinton. Therefore Trump is my guy.
LO-FUCKING-L.
Right, any member of this board can certainly attest to Kaos's fair and reasoned respect for the legitimacy of others' opinions. Right...
The hilarious thing is I am to the right of most people. I agree with you guys on plenty of things, even if not necessarily for your reasons for getting there. Follow me on Twitter. 100% of my twitter arguments are arguing with leftists from the right.
I'm not an ideologue. I'm not a blind party loyalist. I don't view things through any predetermined party-approved lens. I understand nuance. On MOST topics I don't even hold a hard and fast stance as I'm sure you do. Because I usually see the pros and cons to both. Abortion? Death penalty? Climate change regulations? Universal health care? Police brutality? I know your canned responses to all of those topics and any other before I bring them up. For each of those, and many more, I don't fall squarely in team red or team blue, and I don't think either side has a monopoly on the "right" opinion. You, on the other hand, cannot grasp that concept. And you have the audacity to say I'm the one who can't think outside my own biases? This demonstrates an ASTOUNDING lack of self awareness.
I said it before, but I mean it this time. I'm not continuing this meta-argument any more. You're either trolling, in which case I shouldn't dignify you with a response, or you're really this dense, in which case I pity you. So I'll let you continue to be wrong. I already know all of your responses before you type them because you are a predictable robot at this point. You'll tell me facts aren't facts and I'm stupid and I didn't say what I said and you'll "reword" what I said and you'll build 25 more straw man arguments and throw all of your tropes at the wall hoping one of them will make you look less pathetic. You can't help but pick at the scab.
You're wrong. I'm right.
Let it go.
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You CANNOT LET THIS IGNORANT FUCKING STRAWMAN GO, can you?
Let it go.
*snicker*
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You CANNOT LET THIS IGNORANT FUCKING STRAWMAN GO, can you?
Every attempt to resurrect it makes you look stupider and stupider. For fuck's sake, stop it. It's hard to watch.
Your entire post was cause and effect. Trump said this, ergo, he is an idiot and not worthy of being president. It's your ENTIRE argument. It's not made of straw, cheese, butter, eggs or chicklets.
This makes 10 billion and one times, starting with the very first time I posted the video, that I explicitly said THE VIDEO is a fact. And that fact supports my OPINION that I had already established on page one of the first fucking thread that he's a buffoon.
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Because ad-hominems are another concept some of you simply cannot grasp, I try to stay away from insults. But after the 10 billion and first time of spelling this out so that a retarded 5 year old can understand it, and yet, you still flatly refuse to, I am left with no choice but to call you a blithering idiot. There is nothing left to say.
:facepalm: :facepalm:
Go back and read your screeds from the get go. Lots of hominy and other things milling around in there. You've been tossing slurs from the start. But okay.
You see, the way the Internet works, when a word or phrase is in a different color? Those are called hyperlinks (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hyperlink) [hahy-per-lingk]. They take you to places that sometimes contain facts. It is used as a shorthand way to prove you are fucking wrong without wasting more space than necessary.
I know another shorthand way to see what's wrong without wasting space: author=AUChizad
In this case, the hyperlink pointed to this story.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/trumps-strongest-republican-supporters-registered-democrats/
Here is a picture, since you don't read too good.
(http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/nc.jpg)
We discussed this at length when you and others were blathering on about how the election was rigged because Trump wasn't on their ballot, and it turned out that it was because THEY WERE REGISTERED DEMOCRATS. We discussed this at length.
Here is CCTAU linking to redstatewatcher.com to express outrage at the "controversy":
Here is where I introduce FACTS to the conversation:You may have missed it due to your confusion as to what the fuck is a hyperlink.
Try clicking this one:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/03/15/ohio-florida-voters-rubio-kasich-home-states-lead.cnn
These are facts.
Wait. Which of those was mine? Hmm.
Your "instict" that prior to Trump locking down the nomination, Republicans were out-registering Democrats, is false. It is untrue. It is a mistruth. It is nonfactual. Unfactual. Not a fact. If you're going to attempt to post some bullshit "gut feeling" that is verifiably true or false, I suggest you learn what a hyperlink is. People who are interested in truth and facts use them to back up their claims. You never do because you spout bullshit and never cite an actual fact. Your glaring fundamental misunderstanding of facts and links explains why we have gone on for fucking 5 pages of you clinging to your ignorance.
And I said this where?
I've cited multiple FACTS but get tired of doing your work for you.
What is a link?!? I posted links saying the opposite. You refuse to post links because facts are for fags. Guess we should assume my links are bullshit but the ones that exist in your mind are the Gospel.
Here are 497,000 more links for you.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ellmers+trump
All reached the same conclusion based on the same facts. I'm sure redlibertyfreedom.rightwing.biz has some retroactive bullshit about how Trump actually brought her numbers up from wherever they were, but I can't find it, and it speaks more to your understanding of facts and the types of publications that print them and the ones that don't.
Conclusions are not facts. Do you need a dictionary?
This woman voted for Kasich, her campaign was in freefall, Trump endorsed her mildly two days prior to the vote. Wow. That just really shows the world that he's not appealing to voters.
This is just stupid bawling on your part. Shameful, really. You're better than this.
It does. You're wrong. You're always wrong. You are wrong more often than you exhale in a day.
I've never been wrong. Not about this.
There are no torn feelings. It was clear from the first day Donald's stupid face stepped onto a debate stage. He is not an intelligent person. Now you're gonna pretend like this one video is the only fact I've presented to support that, err, oh wait, it's not a fact at all, err...it's an opinon...err...durr...
"Clear from the first day Donald's stupid face..."
Raging arrogance on your part.
Blatant condescension.
Utter refusal to consider any viewpoint other than your own as having merit.
Check the boxes one by one.
Frankly, I'm fucking astounded at this entire quote block. I read it like 5 times and LOLed every one. Facts that support an opinion DON'T support an opinion, they just "retro-fit what you find to salve your torn feelings". LOLok. Seriously, a two year old has a better concept of reality than you do. You are mentally ill.
First of all, I could go back and highlight the multiple times you call me stupid or nuts in this one post, or quote the 10,000 or so times you and others called me that or worse throughout these threads. When you do it ad-hominem, it's fine. When I do it after you refuse to acknowledge the fundamental definition of what a FACT is, a third grade concept, I'm the asshole.
The "FACTS" you posted simply DO NOT support your hysterical opinion. That's the point. Has been all along.
Trump made a joke. Maybe he half head what some guy 50 rows up shouted. Maybe he didn't know whether he said TPP, PPP or Tee Pee. Oh well.
I've never said you WERE stupid or whatever. I typically ask if you are. And then explain why that might be the case. It's much different.
I have never. Read: Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever said that having an opinion one way or another is ignorant. I'm saying flatly refusing to acknowledge facts is ignorant. Because it is the fucking textbook definition of ignorance. You can't even acknowledge the fact of what is a fact. That's next-level ignorance. Whether it's willful or not, I've given you the benefit of the doubt. Any OPINION on how to handle the debt or what the tax structure should look like, or even how to handle transgenders in the bathroom is not ignorant. Flatly denying facts IS ignorant. See how that works? Or are you ignorant?
Still waiting on a FACT that isn't followed by your interpretation as the alpha and omega.
What I suspect it actually is, is your bullheaded flat refusal to admit you're wrong, so when you get painted into a corner with your specious bullshit arguments, and I don't just let them slide like I'm sure you're used to, we end up in a place where we argue for five pages on "WHut is a fact". If you possessed the teensy tiniest bit of humility to admit when your arguments are defeated and you are flatly WRONG about something, we wouldn't have to go round and round until you willfully look like a drooling idiot who doesn't understand what words mean.
Mirror broke? You're looking at yourself.
I'm not wrong and never have been here.
Cool, bro. You're the loyal drone that will support him even if he "stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoots somebody" (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/). What a point of pride to be so loyal to your Führer as to do zero critical thinking, and not let any badthoughts about him enter your skull. So enlightened! By the way, I say this to loyal Bernie or Hillary or even Gary Johnson supporters. Facts matter. Assessing their intelligence, professionalism, character, ability to perform the tasks that being President of the United States entails matter. Anyone with your type of proudly blind loyalty to ANY presidential candidate is disgusting to me. And more importantly is exactly how we got to this trainwreck of a 2016 election.
LO-FUCKING-L.
If "facts mattered" neither Hillary nor Bernie would get a single vote.
End of story.
Right, any member of this board can certainly attest to Kaos's fair and reasoned respect for the legitimacy of others' opinions. Right...
Ask. I don't think you'll get the response you expect.
The hilarious thing is I am to the right of most people. I agree with you guys on plenty of things, even if not necessarily for your reasons for getting there. Follow me on Twitter. 100% of my twitter arguments are arguing with leftists from the right.
You are NOT to the right of most people. This is self delusion. And even if you are ideologically, the way you frame your arguments is straight out of the socialist/communist playbook.
I'm not an ideologue. I'm not a blind party loyalist. I don't view things through any predetermined party-approved lens. I understand nuance. On MOST topics I don't even hold a hard and fast stance as I'm sure you do. Because I usually see the pros and cons to both. Abortion? Death penalty? Climate change regulations? Police brutality? I know your canned responses to all of those topics and any other before I bring them up. For each of those, and many more, I don't fall squarely in team red or team blue, and I don't think either side has a monopoly on the "right" opinion. You, on the other hand, cannot grasp that concept. And you have the audacity to say I'm the one who can't think outside my own biases? This demonstrates an ASTOUNDING lack of self awareness.
Guess what? Neither am I. I look at what's there and make my own choices. Party doesn't matter.
I just know I can't vote for her. Or tax-me-to-death Bernie. I despise them so much I can't risk throwing away my vote on a futile third party. And that's all there is to the story.
In this case your bias against Trump is so extreme you can't think outside it. You start from a predisposed position and see only that which supports it. You ignore the rest. Not saying you're this way about ALL subjects, just this one.
Sometimes I troll you to watch your head explode, but not always.
I said it before, but I mean it this time. I'm not continuing this meta-argument any more. I'll let you continue to be wrong. I already know all of your responses before you type them because you are a predictable robot at this point. You'll tell me facts aren't facts and I'm stupid and I didn't say what I said and you'll "reword" what I said and you'll build 25 more straw man arguments and throw all of your tropes in hoping one of them will make you look less pathetic. You can't help but pick at the scab.
You're wrong. I'm right.
Let it go.
Is the fight back on? Because I'm older now and it will probably hurt more. I'd rather delay it until I've had a few more months at the gym.
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You want the truth, really?
What's insulting about this entire 15-page thread is that several of us have declared who we support and given the reasons for doing so and for that we've been castigated by a handful of folks.
No offense, C, but you've spent most of the 15 pages trying to convince us we're stupid. Not providing any real alternatives (other than a fuck at the moon Gary Johnson), not explaining why somebody else would be better, not illustrating how a different choice would have positives.
Nope. You hate Trump. You can't vote for him. Those of us who disagree? We're all idiots.
That's the insulting part and why it's gone on as long as it has.
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I just know I can't vote for her. Or tax-me-to-death Bernie. I despise them so much I can't risk throwing away my vote on a futile third party. And that's all there is to the story.
In this case your bias against Trump is so extreme you can't think outside it. You start from a predisposed position and see only that which supports it. You ignore the rest. Not saying you're this way about ALL subjects, just this one.
This.
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You want the truth, really?
What's insulting about this entire 15-page thread is that several of us have declared who we support and given the reasons for doing so and for that we've been castigated by a handful of folks.
No offense, C, but you've spent most of the 15 pages trying to convince us we're stupid. Not providing any real alternatives (other than a fuck at the moon Gary Johnson), not explaining why somebody else would be better, not illustrating how a different choice would have positives.
Nope. You hate Trump. You can't vote for him. Those of us who disagree? We're all idiots.
That's the insulting part and why it's gone on as long as it has.
And this.
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It's like this and like that and like this and uh....
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It's like this and like that and like this and uh....
Just chill till the next episode
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Like I said, not going to repeat myself on the topic of your basic misunderstanding of what facts are. But I will address these additional lies and intentional obfuscation you've levied.
Wait. Which of those was mine? Hmm.
Here is how the conversation went. You are revising it to confuse the issue.
So Trump didn't say the things in the video?
Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?
Trump didn't endorse Ellmers?
Ellmers didn't lose her primary as an encumbant?
You replied numerically. Here you address point #2, which is "Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?"
2. The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true. Aka: who gives a fuck? No cause and effect.
This is untrue. I posted proof that it is untrue. You refuse to post proof that it is true. Because it is NOT a fact, you cannot support it. I can support the FACT that it is untrue. And I did.
Moving on:
Not a fact. As we've established, Registered Democrats (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/trumps-strongest-republican-supporters-registered-democrats/) were the difference-makers in the Trump election. This was omitted from your later summary of "facts" in this post, presumably because you knew it was unfactual.
To which you quoted the above post and said:
I have no idea what you're even taking about. Who said democrats were his strongest supporters? You? I didn't. I don't know anybody who did. You tried to cobble together some ridiculous babble about some whore in some state losing an election when Trump endorsed her on SUNDAY as being clear and convincing evidence that he cannot draw voters. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on here. For a while I thought I was arguing with a short-armed early adopter again.
Because you don't read my posts before you go blathering on about how wrong they are with authority means I can't bring up conversations we already had in this thread?
And since you shifted the goal posts to where YOU had to say it in this thread or else it never was discussed, here you go.
He said "real republicans" are staying away from the polls. I don't care. More people are voting republican than normal in almost every state.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/21/gop-sets-another-turnout-record-democrats-numbers-/
I don't care if they are "real" republicans or not. People are energized to vote for Trump.
If the choices were Cruz, Rubio and Kasich, there would be no surge. Wouldn't happen. Trump brings people out. Period.
Then there's this:
Your "instict" that prior to Trump locking down the nomination, Republicans were out-registering Democrats, is false. It is untrue. It is a mistruth. It is nonfactual. Unfactual. Not a fact. If you're going to attempt to post some bullshit "gut feeling" that is verifiably true or false, I suggest you learn what a hyperlink is. People who are interested in truth and facts use them to back up their claims. You never do because you spout bullshit and never cite an actual fact. Your glaring fundamental misunderstanding of facts and links explains why we have gone on for fucking 5 pages of you clinging to your ignorance
To which you replied:
And I said this where?
I've cited multiple FACTS but get tired of doing your work for you.
Again, reread the conversation above. But ultimately, you said it here:
2. The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true. Aka: who gives a fuck? No cause and effect.
Conclusions are not facts. Do you need a dictionary?
This woman voted for Kasich, her campaign was in freefall, Trump endorsed her mildly two days prior to the vote. Wow. That just really shows the world that he's not appealing to voters.
This is just stupid bawling on your part. Shameful, really. You're better than this.
I listed 497,000 links that drew conclusions BASED ON FACTS that Trump's endorsement did more to hurt her than help her.
If you're going to tell me her numbers improved, you've got to provide ANY SOURCE to back that up. You can't because it isn't true. Her voting for Kasich, yes, is a fact. But citing that as DEFINITIVE PROOF that "her campaign was in freefall" is laughable. If you can point me to her poll numbers before Trump's endorsement, then point me to her final numbers, and show me where they she outperformed expectations, I will shut up and humbly admit I was wrong. Because that's what dignified people do in the face of facts.
You don't understand what they are though. Her voting for Kasich IS NOT PROOF that her campaign was failing, I'm sorry you don't understand that.
Guess what? Neither am I. I look at what's there and make my own choices. Party doesn't matter.
Bullshit. So when I say that I believe in man made climate change (which is, by the way, scientific fact, God forbid I open that can worms...), or that while I am morally opposed to abortion, I understand that a woman's right trumps the right of the fetus up to a certain point in the pregnancy (which is very early in the process in my OPINION), or that police often use unnecessarily excessive force even if I don't agree with the majority of these cases being made by #BlackLivesMatter, or that while I think some crimes are black & white irredeemable, I'm not fully comfortable with the state murdering people with our tax dollars, or that I while I typically favor privatization over government oversight, that I do see a need for health care reform and think that the idea that everyone should have the right to be insured is not inherently bad....all of those opinions. You respect my positions on those? And I can't already know in advance that you disagree with all of those positions because you are all-right, all the time?
K...
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Like Charlie Brown's teacher....
With all of this verbosity, is it any wonder none of us will change our mind. We "hate Hitlary" folks are too uneducated and old to even read half of that!
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For me this election is explained by two quotes from a couple of my favorite theologians:
"When God wants to judge a nation, He gives them wicked rulers." John Calvin
"Of two evils, choose neither." Charles Spurgeon
I cannot in good conscious choose between Hillary or Trump. I despise them both equally, but for different reasons. Neither are fit to run our country, IMO. As such, I've withdrawn from the political process since Trump won the nomination. I'm numb to it. I don't feel like I have a party I can identify with anymore. Maybe that's a good thing.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled argument.
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This thread has convinced me to not vote and go fishing instead.
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Sweet baby Jesus.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Let's do this.
Like I said, not going to repeat myself on the topic of your basic misunderstanding of what facts are. But I will address these additional lies and intentional obfuscation you've levied.
No lies. None. But whatever.
You replied numerically. Here you address point #2, which is "Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?"This is untrue. I posted proof that it is untrue. You refuse to post proof that it is true. Because it is NOT a fact, you cannot support it. I can support the FACT that it is untrue. And I did.
To which you quoted the above post and said:Because you don't read my posts before you go blathering on about how wrong they are with authority means I can't bring up conversations we already had in this thread?
Took me two seconds:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/29/republicans-are-voting-more-than-democrats-in-2016-will-that-matter-in-november/ More Republicans are voting than democrats.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/27/donald-trump-will-get-more-primary-votes-than-anyone-in-history-because-more-people-are-voting/ Trump will get more primary votes than ANYONE in history because more people are voting.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/trump-trumps-wins-historic-race-record-fashion/ Trump shatters Republican primary vote record.
When there was a campaign and Trump didn't have the nomination sewed up there was more energy among Republicans and possible crossovers.
Boom. Since there's no Republican race, focus has shifted to the CryptKeeper and the SeaHag. Bernie is bringing people out. Who knows if they'll stick. You don't.
And since you shifted the goal posts to where YOU had to say it in this thread or else it never was discussed, here you go.
Then there's this:To which you replied:
Again, reread the conversation above. But ultimately, you said it here: I listed 497,000 links that drew conclusions BASED ON FACTS that Trump's endorsement did more to hurt her than help her.
If you're going to tell me her numbers improved, you've got to provide ANY SOURCE to back that up. You can't because it isn't true. Her voting for Kasich, yes, is a fact. But citing that as DEFINITIVE PROOF that "her campaign was in freefall" is laughable. If you can point me to her poll numbers before Trump's endorsement, then point me to her final numbers, and show me where they she outperformed expectations, I will shut up and humbly admit I was wrong. Because that's what dignified people do in the face of facts.
You don't understand what they are though. Her voting for Kasich IS NOT PROOF that her campaign was failing, I'm sorry you don't understand that.
She voted for Kasich. That means she wasn't on Trump's coattails. And it has nothing to do with her campaign failing. That was because she abandoned the electorate, whored in Washington (allegedly) and ended up in a redistricted race against another incumbent.
God DAMN, son, you're obsidian. Or is it obstinate. Either way, whatever. Let me help you out a little.
Again, two seconds:
From March:
http://www.talkingaboutpolitics.com/a-poll-george-holding-vs-renee-ellmers/#.V1oiFJErK00
And that’s where George stands: He has a substantial lead. There’re a fair amount of undecided voters. Who dislike Washington Politicians. And disagree with Renee’s attack on George. When asked about Renee’s attack on George, 75% of the voters agreed with George while only 7% agreed with Renee.
In this early poll she was down by at least 20%.
From two days ago:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-fall-of-renee-ellmers/article/2593277
Ellmers' loss on Tuesday probably had more to do with the abortion bill than her endorsement of Trump, since the New York businessman won the state back in March.
From March:
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/renee-ellmers-primary-fight-life
Some in the district now say that Ellmers has betrayed her base. "She has voted with Obama ever since she’s been there," said Michelle Eichelberg, the volunteer chair of the Chatham County GOP.
Three days ago:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/how_north_carolina_rep_renee_ellmers_became_a_gop_villain.html
Now, Ellmers is the villain, a stand-in for the “corrupt†Republican establishment. And thanks to an unusual mid-decade redistricting, she has to vie for her seat against Republican Rep. George Holding, who now sits in the same district. Also running is Greg Bannon, a physician and twice-unsuccessful candidate for the GOP Senate nomination. Holding is the new conservative favorite with an endorsement from the Susan B. Anthony List—an anti-abortion group that typically backs Republican women—and tacit support from the Koch-backed Americans for Prosperity, which is running ads against Ellmers.
Unfortunately for Ellmers, her right flank is fully mobilized against her—in a Republican primary, that’s enough to lose.
Three days ago:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/trump-ellmers-north-carolina-house/485894/
In North Carolina, a Trump bump is not guaranteed. His endorsement could resemble any other politician’s, and might not mean more votes for his favored candidate. He may have won the state in March, but Ellmers’s district, the second, was Ted Cruz country. And turnout in general is expected to be low, because the congressional election was rescheduled.
Three days ago:
http://www.politicsnc.com/predictions-for-tonight/
In this predictor Holding was expected to "win big" with the possibility that Ellmers could finish a distant second if Trump's last minute endorsement helped.
From May:
http://www.politicsnc.com/the-battle-for-second/
Maybe I’m wrong, and I’d be shocked, but I don’t think there’s a path to victory for Congresswoman Ellmers. Eventually, there comes a point in a campaign where there’s just too much against you to be successful, and I think we’ve reached that point in the Second District. Ellmers will get swamped on June 7th. At this point, I think she has a better chance of getting third than she does of winning.
From after the primary:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/holding-defeats-ellmers-in-member-versus-member-primary-224032
According to the findings from SBA List’s door surveys in North Carolina’s 2nd District:
37.8 percent of Ellmers’ own supporters said they were less likely to vote for her, once learning of her role in derailing the Pain-Capable bill.
67.3 percent of undecided pro-life primary voters were less likely to vote for Ellmers, knowing her role in derailing the Pain-Capable bill.
Do a little research, sonny.
She was running in a race that had been redistricted.
She was the incumbent, but so was her opponent.
She was rumored to be having an affair in Washington.
She'd alienated her voter base by her voting record.
She had no chance whatsoever. None. She probably shouldn't have run.
And you expected a Trump endorsement that came two or three days prior to the election to carry her through? When she was expected to finish third? She got 24% of the vote.
Trump was not going to impact that in any meaningful way. To "extrapolate" that his endorsement of her proves that he cannot move voters is utterly absurd. Federal/Presidential endorsements typically don't help that much anyway. You'll see that as you read through all those colored words I put here for you. You know, facts and all.
Bullshit. So when I say that I believe in man made climate change (which is, by the way, scientific fact, God forbid I open that can worms...), or that while I am morally opposed to abortion, I understand that a woman's right trumps the right of the fetus up to a certain point in the pregnancy (which is very early in the process in my OPINION), or that police often use unnecessarily excessive force even if I don't agree with the majority of these cases being made by #BlackLivesMatter, or that while I think some crimes are black & white irredeemable, I'm not fully comfortable with the state murdering people with our tax dollars, or that I while I typically favor privatization over government oversight, that I do see a need for health care reform and think that the idea that everyone should have the right to be insured is not inherently bad....all of those opinions. You respect my positions on those? And I can't already know in advance that you disagree with all of those positions because you are all-right, all the time?
K...
1. You don't know the meaning of the word fact if you claim that "climate change" as it is currently defined is one. It is a fallacy. It's a scam. We disagree here. That's fine. I think you're completely wrong, but it's your constant prerogative to be so,
2. Also opposed to abortion as a rule. Not certain where life begins, but would prefer to err on the side of caution. Respect that people may have other opinions. Do think it's criminal, though, for late term abortions to be performed.
3. "Often" is a big word. I'd say that the vast majority of police interactions are not overtly violent. Also think that they have a tough job that isn't made easier by constant second guessing. I'm not one of those who subscribes to the notion that we're living in a police state. It's a situation where only the negative gets reported most of the time. So yeah, I respect your opinion. Think it's a bit of an overreach to say "often" but that's just me. On that topic, I supported the officer in the "Indian grandfather" bullshit. Just because he was old didn't mean he wasn't dangerous. He was agitated, he was resisting and the guy had every right to take him to the ground. I hated the way al.com crucified the guy before the trial and was glad the jury was smart enough (multiple times) to let him off.
4. I'm for capital punishment. But it needs to be quicker. I don't see that as murder. It's thinning the herd. It's natural. In nature, bad elements are removed. I don't believe everyone can be redeemed. Cases where leopards change their spots are rare. We can discuss it. You won't change my mind, but I'm not above looking at a different view.
5. Get government out of it and let the free market work. The reason it's so expensive and mismanaged and discordant is BECAUSE of government. The people who work for me and have single coverage are about to see their monthly premiums more than double this year. Because of Obamacare. That's wrong. I'm all for finding a better idea, but don't think it will be through government intervention.
You don't like Trump. Okay then. Good for you.
I'm wiling to give him a chance. Doesn't make me a moran, an idiot, a knuckle dragger, a backwoods nazi, xena, a rube or any of the other slurs you've slung.
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"I believe police often use unnecessary excessive force".
Often.
of·ten
ˈôf(t)ən,ˈäf(t)ən/
adverb
frequently; many times.
"he often goes for long walks by himself"
synonyms: frequently, many times, many a time, on many/numerous occasions, a lot, as often as not, repeatedly, again and again, time and (time) again;
Often.
My agency generated 5200 I/O reports last year and responded to nearly 10,000 calls for service. That does not include traffic stops, working traffic for numerous public events such as 5/10k runs or general daily encounters with the citizens of our county. I would venture to say we have more than 20,000 encounters with common citizens yearly. That's probably a low number. But we'll stick with the 10,000 calls for service and we'll pretend that each call was only an encounter with 1 person. Out of those 10,000 calls, we had 0 complaints filed for excessive force. We were negatively in the media spotlight for police brutality 0 out of 10,000 times. This is in a county that has the highest violent crime rate in the state of Alabama according to some polls. Gadsden is consistently ranked as one of the most dangerous cities to live in, in this state.
You watch CNN way too god damn much if you really believe that police across this country "often" use excessive force. That logic alone makes it really fucking hard for me to take anything you say with an ounce of seriousness. Up until this, I'd at least read and considered your opinions. Mostly I even respected them. But that line of reasoning is so fucking flawed with ZERO FACTUAL EVIDENCE that I can't even believe you said it.
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You lie. That has to be about 9,999 black people almost beaten to death by the police in Gadsden last year alone!
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I really think that I'm going to need some bath salts so I can understand the last 3 pages of this thread.
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I really think that I'm going to need some bath salts so I can understand the last 3 pages of this thread.
Here, let me throw in a link for you, seems to be the thing to do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_salts_%28drug%29
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Here, let me throw in a link for you, seems to be the thing to do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_salts_%28drug%29
What are those colored words? Is it racist to consider them colored?
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I admittedly haven't read very much of these long-winded serves and volleys. But I do know that there has been a lot of hurt displayed.
I just wish that the primary parties involved; Kaos, the gay racist and the racist cop, would focus on their commonality rather than dwell on differences. They should let their collective Narcissistic Personality Disorders be the glue that holds their friendships together.
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Took me two seconds:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/29/republicans-are-voting-more-than-democrats-in-2016-will-that-matter-in-november/ More Republicans are voting than democrats.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/27/donald-trump-will-get-more-primary-votes-than-anyone-in-history-because-more-people-are-voting/ Trump will get more primary votes than ANYONE in history because more people are voting.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/trump-trumps-wins-historic-race-record-fashion/ Trump shatters Republican primary vote record.
When there was a campaign and Trump didn't have the nomination sewed up there was more energy among Republicans and possible crossovers.
Boom. Since there's no Republican race, focus has shifted to the CryptKeeper and the SeaHag. Bernie is bringing people out. Who knows if they'll stick. You don't.
Because this became such a molecular-level argument about FACTS, you are still wrong.
Your links support that more people are voting in the Republican primaries than the Democratic primaries. That is fact. Of course, a lot of those were voting AGAINST Trump, but I'll table that argument to stay on point. REGISTERED DEMOCRATS were voting for him too, or at least trying to.
I will post our discussion again so that you can see where you shifted the goal posts.
So Trump didn't say the things in the video?
Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?
Trump didn't endorse Ellmers?
Ellmers didn't lose her primary as an encumbant?
Out-registering
2. The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true. Aka: who gives a fuck? No cause and effect.
Which of your links say Republicans are out-registering Democrats? Your links say more people were voting in their primaries. This is not the same thing.
Not a fact. As we've established, Registered Democrats (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/31/trumps-strongest-republican-supporters-registered-democrats/) were the difference-makers in the Trump election. This was omitted from your later summary of "facts" in this post, presumably because you knew it was unfactual.
Included a link to report that Trump had more support from registered Democrats than registered Republicans at the time of the article, which was when the race was still in contention.
I have no idea what you're even taking about. Who said democrats were his strongest supporters? You? I didn't. I don't know anybody who did. You tried to cobble together some ridiculous babble about some whore in some state losing an election when Trump endorsed her on SUNDAY as being clear and convincing evidence that he cannot draw voters. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on here. For a while I thought I was arguing with a short-armed early adopter again.
Nothing you posted disputed the actual discussion we were having, so you shifted to your own. S-T-R-A-W-M-A-N. It's your M.O.
She voted for Kasich. That means she wasn't on Trump's coattails. And it has nothing to do with her campaign failing. That was because she abandoned the electorate, whored in Washington (allegedly) and ended up in a redistricted race against another incumbent.
So now you're denying that she was the one and only congressional endorsement Trump made? Or that she endorsed him first? You and facts are like oil and water.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-backs-ellmers-in-first-congressional-endorsement-223909
Trump makes a personal appeal to voters to back Ellmers in a robocall released Saturday. She was "the first congresswoman to endorse me and she really was terrific and boy, is she a fighter," Trump says in the call. It is the first time this election that Trump has picked sides in a congressional race.
"I need her help in Washington so we can work together to defeat ISIS, secure our border and bring back jobs and frankly, so many other things," Trump continues. "And Renee knows how to do it. She gets it. And together, we will make America great again."
God DAMN, son, you're obsidian. Or is it obstinate. Either way, whatever. Let me help you out a little.
Again, two seconds:
From March:
http://www.talkingaboutpolitics.com/a-poll-george-holding-vs-renee-ellmers/#.V1oiFJErK00
And that’s where George stands: He has a substantial lead. There’re a fair amount of undecided voters. Who dislike Washington Politicians. And disagree with Renee’s attack on George. When asked about Renee’s attack on George, 75% of the voters agreed with George while only 7% agreed with Renee.
In this early poll she was down by at least 20%.
It does not say that. It says she was down about 20% in the part of the redrawn district that was previously represented by George. And that in the part of the district that Ellmers had previously represented "she led by a similar margin".
She may have been down overall, but it was for sure much less than 20%, not at least 20% as you just stated. More on that later.
From two days ago:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-fall-of-renee-ellmers/article/2593277
Ellmers' loss on Tuesday probably had more to do with the abortion bill than her endorsement of Trump, since the New York businessman won the state back in March.
From March:
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/renee-ellmers-primary-fight-life
Some in the district now say that Ellmers has betrayed her base. "She has voted with Obama ever since she’s been there," said Michelle Eichelberg, the volunteer chair of the Chatham County GOP.
Three days ago:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/how_north_carolina_rep_renee_ellmers_became_a_gop_villain.html
Now, Ellmers is the villain, a stand-in for the “corrupt†Republican establishment. And thanks to an unusual mid-decade redistricting, she has to vie for her seat against Republican Rep. George Holding, who now sits in the same district. Also running is Greg Bannon, a physician and twice-unsuccessful candidate for the GOP Senate nomination. Holding is the new conservative favorite with an endorsement from the Susan B. Anthony List—an anti-abortion group that typically backs Republican women—and tacit support from the Koch-backed Americans for Prosperity, which is running ads against Ellmers.
Unfortunately for Ellmers, her right flank is fully mobilized against her—in a Republican primary, that’s enough to lose.
Three days ago:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/trump-ellmers-north-carolina-house/485894/
In North Carolina, a Trump bump is not guaranteed. His endorsement could resemble any other politician’s, and might not mean more votes for his favored candidate. He may have won the state in March, but Ellmers’s district, the second, was Ted Cruz country. And turnout in general is expected to be low, because the congressional election was rescheduled.
Three days ago:
http://www.politicsnc.com/predictions-for-tonight/
In this predictor Holding was expected to "win big" with the possibility that Ellmers could finish a distant second if Trump's last minute endorsement helped.
From May:
http://www.politicsnc.com/the-battle-for-second/
Maybe I’m wrong, and I’d be shocked, but I don’t think there’s a path to victory for Congresswoman Ellmers. Eventually, there comes a point in a campaign where there’s just too much against you to be successful, and I think we’ve reached that point in the Second District. Ellmers will get swamped on June 7th. At this point, I think she has a better chance of getting third than she does of winning.
From after the primary:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/holding-defeats-ellmers-in-member-versus-member-primary-224032
According to the findings from SBA List’s door surveys in North Carolina’s 2nd District:
37.8 percent of Ellmers’ own supporters said they were less likely to vote for her, once learning of her role in derailing the Pain-Capable bill.
67.3 percent of undecided pro-life primary voters were less likely to vote for Ellmers, knowing her role in derailing the Pain-Capable bill.
Do a little research, sonny.
She was running in a race that had been redistricted.
She was the incumbent, but so was her opponent.
She was rumored to be having an affair in Washington.
She'd alienated her voter base by her voting record.
She had no chance whatsoever. None. She probably shouldn't have run.
All of this is apples and cucumbers. The question is did Trump's endorsement help or hurt her. Not other reasons she was "out of step" with the GOP. But, by the way, to step into your sidebar irrelevant argument, WHY did Trump choose to make his first endorsement someone so "out of step" with the values of Republican voters? Could it be that he doesn't share them because there's hardly a damn thing conservative about him? I thought that's what you liked about Trump? That he didn't give a damn about the GOP. You can't simultaneously blame her failure for being too libruhl, then simultaneously praise Trump for not only holding similar positions on all of those topics, but CHOOSING to VOCALLY endorse her and only her so far at the local level. Not if you have any principles or consistency in your opinions, which you have clearly established you don't. So I guess you can.
And by the way, even the snippets you cherry picked from those articles predicted a "Trump Bump", and it didn't happen. It's almost as if a rational person could conclude that most people aren't as blindly loyal to him as you seem to be, and as you seem to think a significant portion of the electorate are. Which was the point of this whole discussion.
Anyway, other reasons she may or may not have been unpopular are all irrelevant. This was the first relevant thing you said:
And you expected a Trump endorsement that came two or three days prior to the election to carry her through? When she was expected to finish third? She got 24% of the vote.
The article you posted above, despite you saying she got "at least 20%" (which is wrongidy wrong wrong wrong wrong and nonfactual), she was down 20% in the part of the new district that was previously George's. She also was also up 20% in the part of the new district that was previously hers. In no math does the average of -20% for his part and +20% of her part equal MORE than 20% total, no matter how small her part may have been. Math is clearly not my strongsuit, but even I can see that his total lead was closer to 10%.
But after Trump made his endorsement and the final polls came in, she lost by 24%. I'm fairly certain that 10 < 24. Even your INCORRECT 20% is less than 24%.
It is factual that she netted less votes in the actual election, in spite of Trump's endorsement than where she was polling before the endorsement.
Fact.
I'm not going to drive this topic off course further with all of those examples of my most liberal (although actually moderate in full context) OPINIONS and how I know you disagree with them all. The point was that I often take a nuanced stance on a lot of things and respect both sides pretty equally in most cases. You do not. Making your accusation that I am incapable of independent thought or hearing out "the other side" hilarious.
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"I believe police often use unnecessary excessive force".
Often.
of·ten
ˈôf(t)ən,ˈäf(t)ən/
adverb
frequently; many times.
"he often goes for long walks by himself"
synonyms: frequently, many times, many a time, on many/numerous occasions, a lot, as often as not, repeatedly, again and again, time and (time) again;
Often.
My agency generated 5200 I/O reports last year and responded to nearly 10,000 calls for service. That does not include traffic stops, working traffic for numerous public events such as 5/10k runs or general daily encounters with the citizens of our county. I would venture to say we have more than 20,000 encounters with common citizens yearly. That's probably a low number. But we'll stick with the 10,000 calls for service and we'll pretend that each call was only an encounter with 1 person. Out of those 10,000 calls, we had 0 complaints filed for excessive force. We were negatively in the media spotlight for police brutality 0 out of 10,000 times. This is in a county that has the highest violent crime rate in the state of Alabama according to some polls. Gadsden is consistently ranked as one of the most dangerous cities to live in, in this state.
You watch CNN way too god damn much if you really believe that police across this country "often" use excessive force. That logic alone makes it really fucking hard for me to take anything you say with an ounce of seriousness. Up until this, I'd at least read and considered your opinions. Mostly I even respected them. But that line of reasoning is so fucking flawed with ZERO FACTUAL EVIDENCE that I can't even believe you said it.
Good for your precinct.
An average of about 10 cases of police misconduct every single day is greater than ZERO FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
I'm not inherently anti-cop, and like I said, at least 90% of those #BlackLivesMatter cases were completely justified IMO. I also think the racial aspect is way way way overblown in the whole discussion, which I think distracts from the actual problem that should be addressed instead.
That's an example of a nuanced opinion that is not 100% far right or 100% far left. I am capable of having them.
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You lie. That has to be about 9,999 black people almost beaten to death by the police in Gadsden last year alone!
You cannot read. How many hundred or so times to you try to pin a straw man on me that I ALREADY explicitly dispelled before your idiotic misinterpretation of what I said?
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Good for your precinct.
An average of about 10 cases of police misconduct every single day is greater than ZERO FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
I'm not inherently anti-cop, and like I said, at least 90% of those #BlackLivesMatter cases were completely justified IMO. I also think the racial aspect is way way way overblown in the whole discussion, which I think distracts from the actual problem that should be addressed instead.
That's an example of a nuanced opinion that is not 100% far right or 100% far left. I am capable of having them.
10 a day. Let's make it 100 a day. Out of approximately 900,000 officers in this country. Surely you can't believe that 10 a day out of 500,000 to 900,000 interactions with public is often.
Fuck this thread. If you believe that, you can't be reasoned with and already have an idea of what you think reality is in your head, and it can't be changed. 10 a day in a country this size, with how many interactions law enforcement has with the general public is barely even a percentage.
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Because this became such a molecular-level argument about FACTS, you are still wrong.
Your links support that more people are voting in the Republican primaries than the Democratic primaries. That is fact. Of course, a lot of those were voting AGAINST Trump, but I'll table that argument to stay on point. REGISTERED DEMOCRATS were voting for him too, or at least trying to.
I will post our discussion again so that you can see where you shifted the goal posts.
Out-registering
Which of your links say Republicans are out-registering Democrats? Your links say more people were voting in their primaries. This is not the same thing.
Included a link to report that Trump had more support from registered Democrats than registered Republicans at the time of the article, which was when the race was still in contention.
Nothing you posted disputed the actual discussion we were having, so you shifted to your own. S-T-R-A-W-M-A-N. It's your M.O.
You're getting confused with your arguments. Don't recall saying Trump was drawing democrats. Said he was drawing V.O.T.E.R.S. And he was. You may have shit the bed with somebody else regarding him pulling in demos. Not me.
My only point in regard to the voter bloc has always been that he has a chance to energize the disenfranchised middle America vote in a way Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Kasich, etc. could not. Therefore he has the best chance of beating that raggedly despicable democrat whore.
This entire rant of yours is misguided. But carry on if it makes you feel better.
So now you're denying that she was the one and only congressional endorsement Trump made? Or that she endorsed him first? You and facts are like oil and water.
Nope. Not denying anything. But that "fact" makes about as much impact as a drop of goose shit in the Atlantic ocean. It's not relevant.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-backs-ellmers-in-first-congressional-endorsement-223909It does not say that. It says she was down about 20% in the part of the redrawn district that was previously represented by George. And that in the part of the district that Ellmers had previously represented "she led by a similar margin".
She may have been down overall, but it was for sure much less than 20%, not at least 20% as you just stated.
PROVE it. Everything leading up to that election said she'd likely finish third. That Holding had an enormous lead.
All of this is apples and cucumbers. The question is did Trump's endorsement help or hurt her. Not other reasons she was "out of step" with the GOP. But, by the way, to step into your sidebar irrelevant argument, WHY did Trump choose to make his first endorsement someone so "out of step" with the values of Republican voters? Could it be that he doesn't share them because there's hardly a damn thing conservative about him? I thought that's what you liked about Trump? That he didn't give a damn about the GOP. You can't simultaneously blame her failure for being too libruhl, then simultaneously praise Trump for not only holding similar positions on all of those topics, but CHOOSING to VOCALLY endorse her and only her so far at the local level. Not if you have any principles or consistency in your opinions, which you have clearly established you don't. So I guess you can.
GOD DAMMIT, SON....
He endorsed her three days before an election she was going to lose no matter what. You cannot say with any certainty that his endorsement helped or hurt. She got 24% of the vote. Maybe she only gets 20 before.
And no, I choose Trump because...... drumroll..... HE ISN'T HILLARY FUCKING CLINTON. That's it. That's the only reason.
And by the way, even the snippets you cherry picked from those articles predicted a "Trump Bump", and it didn't happen. It's almost as if a rational person could conclude that most people aren't as blindly loyal to him as you seem to be, and as you seem to think a significant portion of the electorate are. Which was the point of this whole discussion.
Prove it didn't happen.
She got 24% of the vote. What would she have gotten if Trump hadn't recorded a 30 second phone call that dialed up a few thousand people three days before the election?
How fucking many people in that locally contentious race do you think really were undecided at that stage of the game?
He probably shouldn't have done it because MORONS will try to make it seem as if his endorsement means nothing, but she asked, she had endorsed him and he reciprocated.
Did it help? Prove it didn't. Prove she wasn't going to get 18% of the vote prior.
Anyway, other reasons she may or may not have been unpopular are all irrelevant. This was the first relevant thing you said:
And you expected a Trump endorsement that came two or three days prior to the election to carry her through? When she was expected to finish third? She got 24% of the vote.
The article you posted above, despite you saying she got "at least 20%" (which is wrongidy wrong wrong wrong wrong and nonfactual), she was down 20% in the part of the new district that was previously George's. She also was also up 20% in the part of the new district that was previously George's. In no math does the average of -20% for his part and +20% of her part equal MORE than 20% total, no matter how small her part may have been. Math is clearly not my strongsuit, but even I can see that his total lead was closer to 10%.
But after Trump made his endorsement and the final polls came in, she lost by 24%. I'm fairly certain that 10 < 24. Even your INCORRECT 20% is less than 24%.
It is factual that she netted less votes in the actual election, in spite of Trump's endorsement than where she was polling before the endorsement.
Fact.
Idiotic. Complete balderdash. A fine example of new math gone wrong. A fine example of taking "facts" and twisting them into a false narrative. The things you tried to mash together don't compute. Not even close.
His lead was 10% by your calculation? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I'm not going to drive this topic off course further with all of those examples of my most liberal (although actually moderate in full context) OPINIONS and how I know you disagree with them all. The point was that I often take a nuanced stance on a lot of things and respect both sides pretty equally in most cases. You do not. Making your accusation that I am incapable of independent thought or hearing out "the other side" hilarious.
We have different approaches. You have to work to change my mind on things. But it's possible.
Not in this case. But it is.
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Good for your precinct.
An average of about 10 cases of police misconduct every single day is greater than ZERO FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
I'm not inherently anti-cop, and like I said, at least 90% of those #BlackLivesMatter cases were completely justified IMO. I also think the racial aspect is way way way overblown in the whole discussion, which I think distracts from the actual problem that should be addressed instead.
That's an example of a nuanced opinion that is not 100% far right or 100% far left. I am capable of having them.
Also, police misconduct and "unnecessary excessive force" aren't even close to being the same thing. I'm not sure which argument you are making.
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10 a day. Let's make it 100 a day. Out of approximately 900,000 officers in this country. Surely you can't believe that 10 a day out of 500,000 to 900,000 interactions with public is often.
Fuck this thread. If you believe that, you can't be reasoned with and already have an idea of what you think reality is in your head, and it can't be changed. 10 a day in a country this size, with how many interactions law enforcement has with the general public is barely even a percentage.
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2259722.1434469226!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/usa-election-trump.jpg)
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Good for your precinct.
An average of about 10 cases of police misconduct every single day is greater than ZERO FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
I'm not inherently anti-cop, and like I said, at least 90% of those #BlackLivesMatter cases were completely justified IMO. I also think the racial aspect is way way way overblown in the whole discussion, which I think distracts from the actual problem that should be addressed instead.
That's an example of a nuanced opinion that is not 100% far right or 100% far left. I am capable of having them.
If you worked in the law enforcement field, I think that your opinion about use of force and/or police misconduct would change drastically. Don't get me wrong, there are some dumb motherfuckers in the field. You have that in any profession. But as Token said, when you consider the sheer amount of contacts per day by law enforcement in the country plus the fact that now lots of folks are trying their hardest to provoke police, there just isn't a systemic problem. There are isolated problems that tend to get a lot of publicity.
I understand that you don't work in the law enforcement field, so you don't see it, you don't deal with it, and to an extent you don't understand. I'm not saying you're some slackjaw yokel, I'm just saying you couldn't possibly get it. Just the other day some guy on LSD was being booked in to our jail and decided that he was going to run out of the booking room. The jailer pursued, the guy ambushed him and pulled him into a room, closed the door and the fight was on. Jailer couldn't get to his Taser and after a few minutes finally was able to yell out on the radio. Let me tell you this: it doesn't matter if the guy was white, black, or green. It doesn't matter, you just know you're going home one way or another. That shit happens every day all across the country. Stupid stuff happens where I work. I guarantee you Token has it about 20x worse where he is.
It's easy for others to sit back and say "Oh, well they shouldn't have done this or that" or "They only did that because that person is <insert race here>". And that is what this country has become, unfortunately.
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You cannot read. How many hundred or so times to you try to pin a straw man on me that I ALREADY explicitly dispelled before your idiotic misinterpretation of what I said?
I'm not sure whether this is hilarious..Or just sad.
Your narcissism has taken over.
I poking fun at Token.
Every day you sound more and more like an unhappy man's wife!
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You're getting confused with your arguments. Don't recall saying Trump was drawing democrats. Said he was drawing V.O.T.E.R.S. And he was. You may have shit the bed with somebody else regarding him pulling in demos. Not me.
My only point in regard to the voter bloc has always been that he has a chance to energize the disenfranchised middle America vote in a way Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Kasich, etc. could not. Therefore he has the best chance of beating that raggedly despicable democrat whore.
This entire rant of yours is misguided. But carry on if it makes you feel better.
How many times do I have to post our exact conversation before you see that you CLEARLY said that "The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true." in response to me saying "Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?"
I've posted it like 6 times now and you continue to deny it. You were wrong about that. Say it. Yes, you've intentionally obfuscated the discussion and pulled it in 10 different directions while I just simply am trying to stay on the original topic, which was this fact. You can keep tugging and I will keep laughing and post the original discussion as many times as it takes for you to accept reality on reality's terms.
Nope. Not denying anything. But that "fact" makes about as much impact as a drop of goose shit in the Atlantic ocean. It's not relevant.
You said she supported Kasich BEFORE she endorsed Trump and he endorsed her, and somehow that makes her more of a force against Trump than really being "on his coattails". That is a joke of a conclusion. Relevance is apparently yet another simple concept you struggle with.
PROVE it. Everything leading up to that election said she'd likely finish third. That Holding had an enormous lead.
Did you read your own link? You proved it for me.
When the poll was done it showed that, in the 63% of the District George had represented for four years, he led Ellmers by over 20 points. Conversely, in the 13% of the District Ellmers had represented she led by a similar margin.
In the new part of the district neither George or Renee were well-known.
He had about 20% more of 63% of the electorate. She had about 20% more of 13% of the electorate. The other 24% of the electorate was not reported or speculated on.
So assuming it was about 60-40 of 63% for him (37.8% of the total for him, 25.2% of the total for her), and 60-40 of the 13% for her (7.8% of the total for her, 5.2% of the total for him), it can be inferred that he had about 42.8% of the total votes, and she had about 30.4% of the total votes of those two districts, with another 26.8% of the total electorate not accounted for.
A difference of 12.4%. Not 20%.
Even if he had the same 60/40 lead in the "unknown" part of the district as he had in the one that was previously his district (which nothing says this, but giving the benefit of the doubt to your argument), that's still 16.08% more for him and 10.72% more for her. Final (generous) tally of 58.88% for him, 41.12% for her.). A 17.76% lead for him, in the BEST CASE for your argument. 41.12% of the vote is still much more than the 24% she ended up with.
By your own statistics that YOU provided, her poll results AFTER Trump's endorsement declined from where they were before it. Unequivocally. And by a lot.
GOD DAMMIT, SON....
He endorsed her three days before an election she was going to lose no matter what. You cannot say with any certainty that his endorsement helped or hurt. She got 24% of the vote. Maybe she only gets 20 before.
Proven false with numbers and statistics. She was getting AT LEAST 40% by your own numbers that YOU provided.
Prove it didn't happen.
She got 24% of the vote. What would she have gotten if Trump hadn't recorded a 30 second phone call that dialed up a few thousand people three days before the election?
How fucking many people in that locally contentious race do you think really were undecided at that stage of the game?
He probably shouldn't have done it because MORONS will try to make it seem as if his endorsement means nothing, but she asked, she had endorsed him and he reciprocated.
Did it help? Prove it didn't. Prove she wasn't going to get 18% of the vote prior.
I did. You didn't. I used YOUR numbers from YOUR articles to do it. The only thing you provided to prove it DID improve her numbers was that data that you apparently misunderstood, and a "gut feeling" you have that it must be true.
But it's not true. It's not. True.
Idiotic. Complete balderdash. A fine example of new math gone wrong. A fine example of taking "facts" and twisting them into a false narrative. The things you tried to mash together don't compute. Not even close.
His lead was 10% by your calculation? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Numbers iz idiotic. Cuz they don't match up to your supposition, even though you're the one that provided them.
Show me any statisic that said he lead the ENTIRE electorate by 20%. It doesn't exist. What you cited simply does not say that. It didn't say exactly, but it is certainly closer to 10% than 20%, as I just demonstrated.
Sorry if you don't follow.
We have different approaches. You have to work to change my mind on things. But it's possible.
Not in this case. But it is.
Oh, so just THIS case that we're talking about. Gotcha.
I am presenting fact after fact, and you are spinning them, twisting them, and flat out ignoring them to pretend they support your argument, when they do just the opposite.
So yeah, I know you won't change your mind. Because you refuse to allow new information that could possibly change it into your skull. And that was my point.
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If you worked in the law enforcement field, I think that your opinion about use of force and/or police misconduct would change drastically. Don't get me wrong, there are some dumb motherfuckers in the field. You have that in any profession. But as Token said, when you consider the sheer amount of contacts per day by law enforcement in the country plus the fact that now lots of folks are trying their hardest to provoke police, there just isn't a systemic problem. There are isolated problems that tend to get a lot of publicity.
I understand that you don't work in the law enforcement field, so you don't see it, you don't deal with it, and to an extent you don't understand. I'm not saying you're some slackjaw yokel, I'm just saying you couldn't possibly get it. Just the other day some guy on LSD was being booked in to our jail and decided that he was going to run out of the booking room. The jailer pursued, the guy ambushed him and pulled him into a room, closed the door and the fight was on. Jailer couldn't get to his Taser and after a few minutes finally was able to yell out on the radio. Let me tell you this: it doesn't matter if the guy was white, black, or green. It doesn't matter, you just know you're going home one way or another. That shit happens every day all across the country. Stupid stuff happens where I work. I guarantee you Token has it about 20x worse where he is.
It's easy for others to sit back and say "Oh, well they shouldn't have done this or that" or "They only did that because that person is <insert race here>". And that is what this country has become, unfortunately.
If 10 random people a day had their names pulled out of a hat, then had their asses whipped for absolutely no other reason than just because, it still wouldn't equal "often use excessive force" compared to contacts per day by nation wide law enforcement. It WOULD be 10 more times a day than it should happen, but it would still be less than 1% of LEO/citizen contacts per day.
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How many times do I have to post our exact conversation before you see that you CLEARLY said that "The republican race is over. Prior to it being locked down, the opposite was true." in response to me saying "Democrats aren't out-registering Republicans?"
I've posted it like 6 times now and you continue to deny it. You were wrong about that. Say it. Yes, you've intentionally obfuscated the discussion and pulled it in 10 different directions while I just simply am trying to stay on the original topic, which was this fact. You can keep tugging and I will keep laughing and post the original discussion as many times as it takes for you to accept reality on reality's terms.
You said she supported Kasich BEFORE she endorsed Trump and he endorsed her, and somehow that makes her more of a force against Trump than really being "on his coattails". That is a joke of a conclusion. Relevance is apparently yet another simple concept you struggle with.
Did you read your own link? You proved it for me.
He had about 20% more of 63% of the electorate. She had about 20% more of 13% of the electorate. The other 24% of the electorate was not reported or speculated on.
So assuming it was about 60-40 of 63% for him (37.8% of the total for him, 25.2% of the total for her), and 60-40 of the 13% for her (7.8% of the total for her, 5.2% of the total for him), it can be inferred that he had about 42.8% of the total votes, and she had about 30.4% of the total votes of those two districts, with another 26.8% of the total electorate not accounted for.
A difference of 12.4%. Not 20%.
Even if he had the same 60/40 lead in the "unknown" part of the district as he had in the one that was previously his district (which nothing says this, but giving the benefit of the doubt to your argument), that's still 16.08% more for him and 10.72% more for her. Final (generous) tally of 58.88% for him, 41.12% for her.). A 17.76% lead for him, in the BEST CASE for your argument. 41.12% of the vote is still much more than the 24% she ended up with.
By your own statistics that YOU provided, her poll results AFTER Trump's endorsement declined from where they were before it. Unequivocally. And by a lot.
Proven false with numbers and statistics. She was getting AT LEAST 40% by your own numbers that YOU provided.
I did. You didn't. I used YOUR numbers from YOUR articles to do it. The only thing you provided to prove it DID improve her numbers was those numbers that you apparently misunderstood, and a "gut feeling" you have that it must be true.
But it's not true. It's not. True.
Numbers iz idiotic. Cuz they don't match up to your supposition, even though you're the one that provided them.
Oh, so just THIS case that we're talking about. Gotcha.
I am presenting fact after fact, and you are spinning them, twisting them, and flat out ignoring them to pretend they support your argument, when they do just the opposite.
So yeah, I know you won't change your mind. Because you refuse to allow new information that could possibly change it into your skull. And that was my point.
:haha: :rofl:
You iz wrong. Tired of proving it point by point.
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I'm going to offer Chad an olive branch and say that he's either misinformed or just made a mistake with his verbiage. He is attempting to argue 10 different points at once, that shit can get confusing. I'm simply saying that "often" and "excessive force" do not compute. Not even from the most slanted anti-Leo website can statistics be derived that law enforcement are often using excessive force. It simply isn't true. Even the link he provided that shows police misconduct rather than excessive force, it still doesn't compute.
It is far less than often.
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I'm going to offer Chad an olive branch and say that he's either misinformed or just made a mistake with his verbiage. He is attempting to argue 10 different points at once, that shit can get confusing. I'm simply saying that "often" and "excessive force" do not compute. Not even from the most slanted anti-Leo website can statistics be derived that law enforcement are often using excessive force. It simply isn't true. Even the link he provided that shows police misconduct rather than excessive force, it still doesn't compute.
It is far less than often.
Honestly, I don't give enough of a shit about this topic to debate you on it.
Fine. Cops are never assholes.
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Honestly, I don't give enough of a shit about this topic to debate you on it.
Fine. Cops are never assholes.
I'm an asshole. You're probably an asshole. Doesn't mean we go around whipping people's asses for no reason. There is a difference.
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Honestly, I don't give enough of a shit about this topic to debate you on it.
Fine. Cops are never assholes.
There are plenty of assholes out there. The only point here is that compared to the number of officers and the number of interactions those officers have per day, the excessive force needle isn't even moving.
I partly blame the misconception on simple lack of understanding in regards to excessive force. The public (i.e. the internet) has defined excessive force as one thing. Courts and department policy define it as something else. The general public observes a tactic, and it shocks their senses, so it must be excessive. When in reality, it is perfectly reasonable according to policy and precedent. I just think that everyone is a little too quick to yell excessive force.
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Honestly, I don't give enough of a shit about this topic to debate you on it.
Fine. Cops are never assholes.
Fact.
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I'm an asshole.
Note:
Honestly, I barely glance at 99% of the things you post on here. But I have to say that I agree with you wholeheartedly on this one. You are spot on in this assessment.
Now, carry on with the kiss and make up talk with Chizzy.
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Honestly, I don't give enough of a shit about this topic to debate you on it.
Fine. Cops are never assholes.
This is your problem. You are one complete extreme to another. We have several law enforcement people here disputing your claim of "often", you pout and say fine "never". This sums you up completely.
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This is your problem. You are one complete extreme to another. We have several law enforcement people here disputing your claim of "often", you pout and say fine "never". This sums you up completely.
Ok. Cops are usually not assholes.
Like I said, I don't care about this enough to continue to discuss it any more than I already have. It was one of like 7 or 8 throwaway rhetorical statements that don't have anything to do at all with the topic of this thread or the current discussion besides that I usually don't take 100% conservative or 100% liberal stances on much of anything.
Y'all are cool with K flat out lying and misrepresenting facts, but God forbid I make a generalization about cops not always being the bestest without y'all trying to nail me to the fuckin wall over it.
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Y'all are cool with K flat out lying and misrepresenting facts, but God forbid I make a generalization about cops not always being the bestest without y'all trying to nail me to the fuckin wall over it.
RUUUDE!
Haven't lied a single time. Not one.
You still don't have any facts to support the points you are trying to make. Maybe we should return to surfing polar bears.
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RUUUDE!
Haven't lied a single time. Not one.
You still don't have any facts to support the points you are trying to make. Maybe we should return to surfing polar bears.
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These last few posts are much more entertaining.
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Half of this thread is comparable to me trying to convince one of you that Alabama is better than Auburn and anyone who doesn't believe that is a moron, and then all of you trying to convince me of the opposite. We both know nobody is going to change their mind, so there's really no point in going apeshit about it.
Most of the folks in the thread saying they are voting for Trump were even pretty clear early on that they weren't necessarily "supporters", just that it's a two-party system and they absolutely could not vote for Hillary. Which I can relate to, because that's where I am as well. Kaos even said he wasn't changing his mind and there is nothing that could be said that would, and everyone knows good and well he's an asshole and meant it. I don't even know what the point was in the 12 pages after that.
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That animated gif/meme will show him!
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Ok. Cops are usually not assholes.
Like I said, I don't care about this enough to continue to discuss it any more than I already have. It was one of like 7 or 8 throwaway rhetorical statements that don't have anything to do at all with the topic of this thread or the current discussion besides that I usually don't take 100% conservative or 100% liberal stances on much of anything.
Y'all are cool with K flat out lying and misrepresenting facts, but God forbid I make a generalization about cops not always being the bestest without y'all trying to nail me to the fuckin wall over it.
It's kind of like when I asked a question of "what if the LaRaza premise was true?" and got:
Remember what I've been saying about manipulating idiots? Just put a minimal effort into not to being one.
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It's kind of like when I asked a question of "what if the LaRaza premise was true?" and got:
To be fair, this was dropped into the middle of a much larger debate on another topic. I don't think Chad intended to have an in-depth discussion on the police brutality argument in this (portion of this) thread.
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To be fair, this was dropped into the middle of a much larger debate on another topic. I don't think Chad intended to have an in-depth discussion on the police brutality argument in this (portion of this) thread.
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There was no debate on the other topic. A person was wrong. Badly. And his name here started with "Chiz" and ended in "ad"
The comment regarding police brutality merely defined the mindset and confirmed the overall wrongness.
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To be fair, this was dropped into the middle of a much larger debate on another topic. I don't think Chad intended to have an in-depth discussion on the police brutality argument in this (portion of this) thread.
My point is that Chad is the master of taking one little thing that you say, and turning it around to "Oh my god, let me post 5 links to prove what you mentioned is COMPLETELY WRONG DON'T BE A MANIPULATED IDIOT FACTS!"
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We cannot have a president so dishonest that they would go so far as to destroy court-ordered email evidence amirite?
#Hillary4Prison amirite?
#CrookedHillary rite?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/13/trump-accused-destroying-email-evidence-lawsuit-10-years-ago-republican-hillary-president/85795082/
Trump was accused of destroying email evidence in lawsuit 10 years ago
Paul Singer, USA TODAY 4 p.m.
In 2006, when a judge ordered Donald Trump's casino operation to hand over several years' worth of emails, the answer surprised him: The Trump Organization routinely erased emails and had no records from 1996 to 2001. The defendants in a case that Trump brought said this amounted to destruction of evidence, a charge never resolved.
At that time, a Trump IT director testified that until 2001, executives in Trump Tower relied on personal email accounts using dial-up Internet services, despite the fact that Trump had launched a high-speed Internet provider in 1998 and announced he would wire his whole building with it. Another said Trump had no routine process for preserving emails before 2005.
Judge Jeffrey Streitfeld was stunned. “He has a house up in Palm Beach County listed for $125 million, but he doesn’t keep emails. That’s a tough one,†he said, according to transcripts obtained by USA TODAY. “If somebody starts to put forth as a fact something that doesn’t make any sense to me and causes me to have a concern about their credibility in the discovery process, that's not a good direction to go, and I am really having a hard time with this.â€
Now, a decade later, Trump regularly hammers Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, for using her own email server while she was secretary of State and deleting emails from that server that she deemed to be private. In a war of tweets with Clinton a week ago, Trump wrote, “And where are your 33,000 emails that you deleted?†On the CBS News program Face the Nationearlier this month, Trump said, "What she did is a criminal situation. She wasn't supposed to do that with the server and the emails."
A USA TODAY Network analysis found that Trump has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades. In this case, while Trump was not accused of doing anything illegal at the time and he clearly was not a public official, there are, nonetheless, fascinating parallels between the events of 2006 and the current campaign.
The Trump campaign and his lawyers have not responded to requests for comment on this story.
The preservation of email was a central point of contention in the suit filed in 2004 by Trump's publicly traded casino company, called Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, against a former employee, Richard Fields. The gist of the Trump company's suit in a Broward County, Fla., court was that while he was working with Trump, Fields had developed the idea of working with the Seminole Tribe in Florida to build a casino, then told Trump the idea wasn’t going to fly. Fields then left Trump’s employ at the end of the 1990s and struck the same deal with other partners.
Trump sued Fields and the companies he had ended up working with on a Seminole casino, arguing that Trump Hotels should be entitled to all profits the casinos produced, which were expected at the time to be more than $1 billion over 10 years.
The companies Trump sued argued that if it was true that Trump Hotels had been pursuing a similar deal with the tribe, there would be emails and other records documenting their discussions. The judge agreed and ordered Trump Hotels to hand over emails, financial documents, executive meeting calendars and so forth.
In a March 2006 hearing, the Trump company's lawyer, Robert Borrello, said Trump didn’t use email himself and his company didn’t retain emails. “My understanding from speaking to my client is that there are no emails,†Borrello said, according to a transcript obtained by USA TODAY. “They don’t keep emails from the time period from ’96 until within the last couple of years, when the organization instituted retention procedures for keeping emails electronically.â€
Streitfeld, who has since retired, told USA TODAY he remembers the case. “I was a bit incredulous that an organization of that significance doesn’t do email,†Streitfeld said. “I had heard a number of things in 24 years on the bench, but that stuck in my mind.â€
Trump certainly had access to high-tech communications. In 1998, he created a tech venture called Trump New Media, and its first project was “to wire his luxury high-rise Trump Tower for blazing-fast Internet access and video-on-demand service,†the New York Daily News reported. A publication called Network World reported in October 1998 on the efforts of Trump’s Louisiana-based Internet service provider to provide “bursting†capability for “business residents at Trump Towers in New York†to be able to “grab extra bandwidth from time to time.†The article quoted Trump New Media executive Harry Geruldsen as saying the company planned to offer these services to businesses nationwide.
But Trump’s own company was apparently not using it.
In 1996, some Trump executives set up email accounts “using dial-up connections with various email providers such as AOL, Compuserve,†said Nikos Vroulis, the director of networks and systems for Trump’s casino operations in a March 2006 affidavit. “In the late 1990s, (1998-99 approximately), we switched dial-up accounts to different providers. In 2001 we acquired a server … and gradually moved employees away from using their dial-ups.†Vroulis added that “it was not until the summer of 2003 that we began to journal and save emails on the server.â€
Before that, Trump’s casino company destroyed old computers and emails that might have been stored on them. “There was no uniform procedure for migration of data from an obsolete work station to a replacement work station,†Vroulis said.
Trumps’s companies had no document retention policy, witnesses testified. “Every year everything was just wiped out and deleted from pretty much everybody’s computers,†said Bob Pickus, general counsel of the casino unit at the time, according to court records.
Email retention policies were still evolving over the years covered by the Trump’s dealing with the Seminoles. At the time, companies had very little guidance on what electronic records they were supposed to keep, said Rae Cogar, a lawyer who used to chair the American Bar Association committee on electronic evidence. Cogar said when Congress passed the 2002 law known as Sarbanes-Oxley to combat securities fraud, "that was the start when people really started looking at how they were handling their information and electronic records."
As the Trump Hotels court case dragged on, the defendants asked the judge to enforce sanctions against Trump for destroying evidence. Trump’s company failed to preserve emails and “has been regularly destroying data and evidence located on its computer, both before and after this case was filed,†the companies charged in a May 2007 motion. One Trump executive had his computer replaced in 2005, after Trump filed his complaint against Fields and the other casino developers, and “there were emails on the hard drive of his old computers that were not migrated to his new computer or otherwise preserved,†the defendants argued.
But the case was settled before the judge ruled on whether Trump's company had destroyed evidence.
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We cannot have a president so dishonest that they would go so far as to destroy court-ordered email evidence amirite?
But was it required by federal law for trump casino to keep the emails?
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But was it required by federal law for trump casino to keep the emails?
Or was he covering up national security breeches when he deleted the email?
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We cannot have a president so dishonest that they would go so far as to destroy court-ordered email evidence amirite?
#Hillary4Prison amirite?
#CrookedHillary rite?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/13/trump-accused-destroying-email-evidence-lawsuit-10-years-ago-republican-hillary-president/85795082/
You do understand the difference between state secrets and business dealings, amirite?
You do understand this is USA Today's third hatchet piece on Trump in two weeks, amirite?
Deaf ears my friend. Deaf ears.
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I think it's best left said on here that there are several differing takes and opinions on things. Some just personal tastes and some based in some sort of facts. Regardless we all have different takes on it. I don't think anyone is going to change anyone else's mind on this stuff. So the subsequent pissing contests and diatribes with personal attacks are a bit fruitless. I try to put my take in there just as I see it but not so much trying to talk down to anyone or change their mind. I think there is a constructive way to do it but that's Just my .02.
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I think it's best left said on here that there are several differing takes and opinions on things. Some just personal tastes and some based in some sort of facts. Regardless we all have different takes on it. I don't think anyone is going to change anyone else's mind on this stuff. So the subsequent pissing contests and diatribes with personal attacks are a bit fruitless. I try to put my take in there just as I see it but not so much trying to talk down to anyone or change their mind. I think there is a constructive way to do it but that's Just my .02.
I think someone else may have said this. You know maybe its just time to blow shit up in DC. Change the formula, change the people.
Trump is a buffoon, likes to hear his own voice, but dog shit and cat turds, he ain't Hillary and with her not only do we keep the current climate, it gets a shit ton worse.
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I think it's best left said on here that there are several differing takes and opinions on things. Some just personal tastes and some based in some sort of facts. Regardless we all have different takes on it. I don't think anyone is going to change anyone else's mind on this stuff. So the subsequent pissing contests and diatribes with personal attacks are a bit fruitless. I try to put my take in there just as I see it but not so much trying to talk down to anyone or change their mind. I think there is a constructive way to do it but that's Just my .02.
That's been my only problem. The arrogant, misinformed, derisive vitriol directed at all those so obviously ignorant that they'd consider voting for trump. It's insulting. All its done is convince me that it's the right choice.
TRUMP!!
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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-14/bloomberg-politics-national-poll-june-2016
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Two things:
1) Hillary is clobbering Trump by a huge 12% margin. That is not what these numbers normally look like 5 months before the election.
2) Gary Johnson's numbers continue to rise.
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Actually 3 things.
The GOP won by 48% in 2012, 28% in 08, 46% in 04. Have gone GOP in every election since 1964.
Hillary & Trump are tied at 35% each with Gary Johnson pulling in 13%.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/3993058-155/poll-trumps-unpopularity-could-swing-utahns#sthash.MtNh50Gm.uxfs&st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/fXz7KOTlq5
Good luck winning the general if you can't win UTAH.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-14/bloomberg-politics-national-poll-june-2016
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Two things:
1) Hillary is clobbering Trump by a huge 12% margin. That is not what these numbers normally look like 5 months before the election.
2) Gary Johnson's numbers continue to rise.
Too bad rhe election isn't today.
Worthless.
Other polls show different results.
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Also?
Gary Johnson. :rofl:
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Too bad rhe election isn't today.
Worthless.
Other polls show different results.
The Bloomberg one looks like an extreme outlier compared to other ones. Esp Rcp and Rasmussen.
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The Bloomberg one looks like an extreme outlier compared to other ones. Esp Rcp and Rasmussen.
They don't fit the "new" conservative narrative!
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They don't fit the "new" conservative narrative!
The purpose of some of these "polls" is to get Trump supporters to go "ah, fuck... we tried" and then stay away from the polls.
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Support our troops!
https://youtu.be/DoAriULv1P8
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Support our troops!
You don't understand anything any more, do you?
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The Bloomberg one looks like an extreme outlier compared to other ones. Esp Rcp and Rasmussen.
Keep telling yourselves that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/15/negative-views-of-donald-trump-just-hit-a-new-high-7-in-10-americans/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/15/theres-no-equivalence-here-trump-is-far-more-disliked-than-clinton/
55% view Hillary unfavorable. Those are historically terrible numbers that would otherwise be huge news. Republicans could have put ANY ONE of the 16(!) other candidates that graced a debate stage for the primaries, and they would have walked away with this thing.
But instead you wanted Captain Retard to SHATTER all unfavorability records at 70 percent unfavorability. If you don't hate the man and think he's a slimy dipshit, you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty to see the forrest for the trees.
And it ain't gettin better. He still has 5 months to continue to top himself with asinine comment after asinine comment. This is the RCP poll you sited as starkly contrasting the Bloomberg one.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
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NO POLL including the right-leaning Rasmussen & Fox News polls have him ahead of Hillary.
Hilarious that every poll he's ahead in is Gospel/Science but when the same pollsters show him down it's some vast left-wing conspiracy where they're prolly just polling Mooslims & Mexicans.
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Keep telling yourselves that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/15/negative-views-of-donald-trump-just-hit-a-new-high-7-in-10-americans/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/15/theres-no-equivalence-here-trump-is-far-more-disliked-than-clinton/
55% view Hillary unfavorable. Those are historically terrible numbers that would otherwise be huge news. Republicans could have put ANY ONE of the 16(!) other candidates that graced a debate stage for the primaries, and they would have walked away with this thing.
But instead you wanted Captain Retard to SHATTER all unfavorability records at 70 percent unfavorability. If you don't hate the man and think he's a limy dipshit, you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty to see the forrest for the trees.
And it ain't gettin better. He still has 5 months to continue to top himself with asinine comment after asinine comment. This is the RCP poll you sited as starkly contrasting the Bloomberg one.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
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NO POLL including the right-leaning Rasmussen & Fox News polls have him ahead of Hillary.
Hilarious that every poll he's ahead in is Gospel/Science but when the same pollsters show him down it's some vast left-wing conspiracy where they're prolly just polling Mooslims & Mexicans.
Never thought you were an idiot before.
Please stop causing me to doubt that.
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You don't understand anything any more, do you?
Explain it to me like I'm as dumb as Trump.
Explain to me how a guy who made millions screwing businesses with bankruptcies implying our troops are living well off of stolen Iraq money is a great virtue and an honorable thing to say. Explain how if Hillary made the exact same slanderous generalization at a campaign rally you would be nodding and applauding exactly the same way.
You have no principles. Only blind loyalty to your Führer.
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Never thought you were an idiot before.
Please stop causing me to doubt that.
ALL POLLS AND NUMBERS ARE FOR FAGGOTS!!! *
Except in the rare occasion they imply something positive for Trump.
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Explain it to me like I'm as dumb as Trump.
Explain to me how a guy who made millions screwing businesses with bankruptcies implying our troops are living well off of stolen Iraq money is a great virtue and an honorable thing to say. Explain how if Hillary made the exact same slanderous generalization at a campaign rally you would be nodding and applauding exactly the same way.
You have no principles. Only blind loyalty to your Führer.
Master race, bitches.
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Keep telling yourselves that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/15/negative-views-of-donald-trump-just-hit-a-new-high-7-in-10-americans/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/15/theres-no-equivalence-here-trump-is-far-more-disliked-than-clinton/
55% view Hillary unfavorable. Those are historically terrible numbers that would otherwise be huge news. Republicans could have put ANY ONE of the 16(!) other candidates that graced a debate stage for the primaries, and they would have walked away with this thing.
But instead you wanted Captain Retard to SHATTER all unfavorability records at 70 percent unfavorability. If you don't hate the man and think he's a slimy dipshit, you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty to see the forrest for the trees.
And it ain't gettin better. He still has 5 months to continue to top himself with asinine comment after asinine comment. This is the RCP poll you sited as starkly contrasting the Bloomberg one.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck_jDOyWkAADVpq.jpg)
NO POLL including the right-leaning Rasmussen & Fox News polls have him ahead of Hillary.
Hilarious that every poll he's ahead in is Gospel/Science but when the same pollsters show him down it's some vast left-wing conspiracy where they're prolly just polling Mooslims & Mexicans.
Dude. I just pointed out that the Bloomberg poll is an outlier compared to most of the other 56 polls that exist. No one said trump was winning in the others. No one said they all had him ahead. The others for the most part have him closer than the Bloomberg one. Rcp included at +5 for Hillary and the Rcp currently is higher for her than its been in a couple of months. It's ebb n flow. In statistical world the Bloomberg one is called an outlier. That's all. Quit making shit personal. I'm not your enemy.
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you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty
I think this is the only part where you're off-base, Chad. This isn't Republican party loyalty...this is Trump loyalty.
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I think this is the only part where you're off-base, Chad. This isn't Republican party loyalty...this is Trump loyalty.
So the constant rhetorical screaming and demagoguing is cool though?
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So the constant rhetorical screaming and demagoguing is cool though?
I think the "screaming" is due to Chad's frustration with Kaos acknowledging neither his own arguments nor the factual refutation of those arguments. It's typical K debate strategy, and very frustrating.
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Quit making shit personal. I'm not your enemy.
Would you say it's getting personal to question someone's sexuality and intellect? Calling them names (homo, bitch, sissy, dumbass, etc.) and literally hating them while attempting to expedite having them banned from the site, again?
I certainly hope that it is.
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I think the "screaming" is due to Chad's frustration with Kaos acknowledging neither his own arguments nor the factual refutation of those arguments. It's typical K debate strategy, and very frustrating.
Who is Chad? That's a gay name.
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I think this is the only part where you're off-base, Chad. This isn't Republican party loyalty...this is Trump loyalty.
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And this? This is idiocy.
Unbelievable that after nearly a score of pages you've yet to get it through your head that none of us are loyal to Trump.
We're opposed to Hillary and to Obama and their entire organization. Wouldn't matter who was running against her. Hell, run Shia Lebouf. Or King Louie from Jungle Book. I'd be waving the orangutan flag.
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I think the "screaming" is due to Chad's frustration with Kaos acknowledging neither his own arguments nor the factual refutation of those arguments. It's typical K debate strategy, and very frustrating.
If there actually were a factual refutation, we could discuss it. There isn't. Only infantile posturing and far-fetched presumptions based on discordant and unrelated "facts."
I've been in the same place saying essentially the same thing for a long, long time. I'm sorry you can't accept it.
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I think the "screaming" is due to Chad's frustration with Kaos acknowledging neither his own arguments nor the factual refutation of those arguments. It's typical K debate strategy, and very frustrating.
It's at everyone. I've been as civil as can be. So have you. Not sure why it can't be done that way.
And unless I'm missing my guess, k's frustration is due to chads response recently in the thread. And Chad will say the same thing about k. Chicken and egg. Someone at some point is gonna have to be the adult and end the cycle and just say "agree to disagree". I've tried to do a good job of that, esp with you.
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Dude. I just pointed out that the Bloomberg poll is an outlier compared to most of the other 56 polls that exist. No one said trump was winning in the others. No one said they all had him ahead. The others for the most part have him closer than the Bloomberg one. Rcp included at +5 for Hillary and the Rcp currently is higher for her than its been in a couple of months. It's ebb n flow. In statistical world the Bloomberg one is called an outlier. That's all. Quit making shit personal. I'm not your enemy.
What could you possibly have interpreted as a personal attack on you there, delicate snowflake?
And how is ANYTHING I've ever said in the history of this forum more an example of pointless name-calling devoid of any constructive or rhetorical context whatsoever as these back-to-back gems, which is mild by comparison of hundreds of others?
Would you say it's getting personal to question someone's sexuality and intellect? Calling them names (homo, bitch, sissy, dumbass, etc.) and literally hating them while attempting to expedite having them banned from the site, again?
I certainly hope that it is.
Who is Chad? That's a gay name.
"Trump is slimy because" (evidence of him saying/doing something slimy) or "Most people can see Trump for what he is as evidenced by (poll numbers showing his gargantuan disapproval rating). More importantly the "at least he's not Hillary" argument doesn't work when he routinely does and says shit that you people would make a federal fucking case over if she did or said them. Those things are not pointless attacks, they're facts that support my arguments.
If there actually were a factual refutation, we could discuss it. There isn't. Only infantile posturing and far-fetched presumptions based on discordant and unrelated "facts."
I've been in the same place saying essentially the same thing for a long, long time. I'm sorry you can't accept it.
So please, explain to me how ALL the current polls are wrong and completely meaningless.
Explain to me why Trump slandering US soldiers in the way he did is ok and how you would be PERFECTLY ok with Hillary doing the same.
You've stretched the limits of intellectual dishonesty WAY beyond its breaking point.
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What could you possibly have interpreted as a personal attack on you there, delicate snowflake?
And how is ANYTHING I've ever said in the history of this forum more an example of pointless name-calling devoid of any constructive or rhetorical context whatsoever as these back-to-back gems, which is mild by comparison of hundreds of others?"Trump is slimy because" (evidence of him saying/doing something slimy) or "Most people can see Trump for what he is as evidenced by (poll numbers showing his gargantuan disapproval rating). More importantly the "at least he's not Hillary" argument doesn't work when he routinely does and says shit that you people would make a federal fucking case over if she did or said them. Those things are not pointless attacks, they're facts that support my arguments.
So please, explain to me how ALL the current polls are wrong and completely meaningless.
Explain to me why Trump slandering US soldiers in the way he did is ok and how you would be PERFECTLY ok with Hillary doing the same.
You've stretched the limits of intellectual dishonesty WAY beyond its breaking point.
The patronizing dude. You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's just a discussion on polls. But you decided to get weird and huffy about it. For nothing. And we're all in here wondering why the giant pissing contest happened and even bigger, why us politics are a shit storm. The microcosm of it is right here in this thread.
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It's at everyone. I've been as civil as can be. So have you. Not sure why it can't be done that way.
And unless I'm missing my guess, k's frustration is due to chads response recently in the thread. And Chad will say the same thing about k. Chicken and egg. Someone at some point is gonna have to be the adult and end the cycle and just say "agree to disagree". I've tried to do a good job of that, esp with you.
If I'm frustrated it's not with you. Where are you perceiving that? Show me a quote that is just pointless insults? Like, are you reading K's posts?
If there actually were a factual refutation, we could discuss it. There isn't. Only infantile posturing
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And this? This is idiocy.
Never thought you were an idiot before.
Please stop causing me to doubt that.
(Despite having said as much 250 times already in this thread before and after)
You don't understand anything any more, do you?
Literally, HIS ENTIRE ARGUMENT is insulting me. Fuck facts, they're all bullshit. I'm dumb. I don't understand anything. I don't get it. I'm infantile.
There is NO FUCKING WAY you can say that anything I've said even comes close to that type of mud slinging, when I'm trying to prove my point with facts, figures, video evidence, links, etc. and he's trying to prove his by repeatedly saying nothing else but hurling insults. Doesn't even try to refute the FACTS, besides some asinine rhetorical confusion over what is fact and what is opinion.
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The patronizing dude. You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's just a discussion on polls. But you decided to get weird and huffy about it. For nothing. And we're all in here wondering why the giant pissing contest happened and even bigger, why us politics are a shit storm. The microcosm of it is right here in this thread.
So I hurt your fee-fees with polls? Why won't you point to any actual attack on you? Show me an example if you're going to play that victim game.
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What could you possibly have interpreted as a personal attack on you there, delicate snowflake?
And how is ANYTHING I've ever said in the history of this forum more an example of pointless name-calling devoid of any constructive or rhetorical context whatsoever as these back-to-back gems, which is mild by comparison of hundreds of others?"Trump is slimy because" (evidence of him saying/doing something slimy) or "Most people can see Trump for what he is as evidenced by (poll numbers showing his gargantuan disapproval rating). More importantly the "at least he's not Hillary" argument doesn't work when he routinely does and says shit that you people would make a federal fucking case over if she did or said them. Those things are not pointless attacks, they're facts that support my arguments.
So please, explain to me how ALL the current polls are wrong and completely meaningless.
Explain to me why Trump slandering US soldiers in the way he did is ok and how you would be PERFECTLY ok with Hillary doing the same.
You've stretched the limits of intellectual dishonesty WAY beyond its breaking point.
Dude, I have never personally attacked you. Yes, I hung out at an x gate waiting on you to do so a couple of times but you got scared I guess.
And I have NEVER called you a name that wasn't FACT. I do my fact checking buddy.
And if you are going to continue hurling baseless accusations at me, well I guess now is good a time as any for us to end this friendship. And I mean it.
Link that buddy.
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Dude, I have never personally attacked you. Yes, I hung out at an x gate waiting on you to do so a couple of times but you got scared I guess.
And I have NEVER called you a name that wasn't FACT. I do my fact checking buddy.
And if you are going to continue hurling baseless accusations at me, well I guess now is good a time as any for us to end this friendship. And I mean it.
Link that buddy.
Very productive and relevant to the conversation. I really need to learn to stay on point like you do.
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It's at everyone. I've been as civil as can be. So have you. Not sure why it can't be done that way.
And unless I'm missing my guess, k's frustration is due to chads response recently in the thread. And Chad will say the same thing about k. Chicken and egg. Someone at some point is gonna have to be the adult and end the cycle and just say "agree to disagree". I've tried to do a good job of that, esp with you.
I have no frustration. At all.
I actually find it funny. There came a point (and I won't say where) when some of my volleys were just molotov cocktails. Splash a little fire and see what burns.
My stance wasn't going to change. No matter what was posted. I'd done my own research, made up my own mind and can live with any option but her. Even Trump (who, in case you've missed I've never voted for and will for the first time in November).
I could well be wrong that he has a realistic chance to beat her. But Chizad is fucking a monkey if he thinks Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, Jeb, Carly or any of those would have been better positioned. None of them could beat her in Florida, Pennsylvania or New York. Trump may not, they WOULD not. Without one or more of those states? No chance.
I also know that in 1980, Ronald Reagan was 25 points or more behind Carter in March. By June-July the race was 3-5% difference. Reagan didn't take the lead over Carter until late July, and even then it was a very slim lead. At that time a legitimate third party candidate (Anderson) was drawing nearly 25% of the vote. He drifted away just like Johnson's paltry "rising" 9% will.
So FUCK May polling. I don't care.
I don't subscribe to the notion that "Trump said something stupid, so he's like the worst candidate evar!!1!" either.
I've sort of been looking at this like I'm Clark Griswold and Chizad is Snots. Better just let him finish.
I respect his opinion when it makes sense and isn't shrouded in a tantrum that draws unrelated dots. Doesn't mean I don't think he's wronger than a Harriet Tubman twenty.
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Not going to go 100% point by point, but I'll help you a little here:
"Trump is slimy because" (evidence of him saying/doing something slimy)
Your definition of "slimy" doesn't rise to the level of "fact." Your interpretation only.
or "Most people can see Trump for what he is as evidenced by (poll numbers showing his gargantuan disapproval rating).
Also not "fact." Your interpretation of a poll that may be biased in its very nature, may be flawed in its execution, may have little or no validity.
More importantly the "at least he's not Hillary" argument doesn't work when he routinely does and says shit that you people would make a federal fucking case over if she did or said them. Those things are not pointless attacks, they're facts that support my arguments.
Again. Not a fact. Your expectation of how some random someone would react to an event that hadn't happened, didn't happen or was interpreted by you in a way that others did not.
Zero facts, sir.
So please, explain to me how ALL the current polls are wrong and completely meaningless.
Ronald Reagan was 10-15 points behind Carter in June. Who gives a fuck about a poll? Really?
Explain to me why Trump slandering US soldiers in the way he did is ok and how you would be PERFECTLY ok with Hillary doing the same.
He did nothing of the sort. YOU (and other haters) took what he said and made it into something it isn't. It's a trend I've noticed numerous times in this discussion. You assert your own personal interpretation of an event or comment as fact. It's not. And then you extend the error by making rash assumptions about how others MIGHT react to a different situation.
Classically flawed.
You've stretched the limits of intellectual dishonesty WAY beyond its breaking point.
You're too angry to see the forest for that one enormous tree.
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Very productive and relevant to the conversation. I really need to learn to stay on point like you do.
That's it. We are finished.
I'm done with this one sided relationship.
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If I'm frustrated it's not with you. Where are you perceiving that? Show me a quote that is just pointless insults? Like, are you reading K's posts?
Seriously? You're going to claim that I'm insulting you? Page after page after page of "moron, mouthbreather, knuckle dragger, etc. ad infinitum" spewing from you and you're going to throw THAT stone? Come on, dude. I've been WAAAY civil. You haven't been insulted. I've asked questions like "are you insane" because the point you were trying to defend was absurd. I've poked at your arguments, but you'll have to search for where it was ever personal from me. I'm not really sure what you're reading.
(Despite having said as much 250 times already in this thread before and after)
Literally, HIS ENTIRE ARGUMENT is insulting me. Fuck facts, they're all bullshit. I'm dumb. I don't understand anything. I don't get it. I'm infantile.
There is NO FUCKING WAY you can say that anything I've said even comes close to that type of mud slinging, when I'm trying to prove my point with facts, figures, video evidence, links, etc. and he's trying to prove his by repeatedly saying nothing else but hurling insults. Doesn't even try to refute the FACTS, besides some asinine rhetorical confusion over what is fact and what is opinion.
Come the fuck on. My ENTIRE ARGUMENT is that Trump is a better option than Hillary. That's the alpha and omega.
I find it unbelievable that you'd consider anything I've said to you "mudslinging." I've hurled zero "insults" at you.
What pisses you off is that I really don't give a fuck about your "facts" (which are merely opinions 95% of the time) or your charts, graphs, links, videos, or any of that. You're angry because I won't acknowledge how right you are. And it's simply because either I don't think you ARE right or I don't care that you might be.
I've already accepted this situation and come to terms with it. Months ago. I wouldn't pick Trump out of a lineup, but since he's what there is standing between Hillary and the White House, and since I just happened to recognize the winds of change before most of the rest of you did, I'm over it. I don't care what he did ten years ago. I don't care what he said yesterday. He's less dangerous than she is.
And that's the whole of it.
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And this? This is idiocy.
Unbelievable that after nearly a score of pages you've yet to get it through your head that none of us are loyal to Trump.
We're opposed to Hillary and to Obama and their entire organization. Wouldn't matter who was running against her. Hell, run Shia Lebouf. Or King Louie from Jungle Book. I'd be waving the orangutan flag.
I see you say those things...but when confronted with any negative facts about DT, you put your fingers in your ears and ignore it. That's Trump loyalty.
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I see you say those things...but when confronted with any negative facts about DT, you put your fingers in your ears and ignore it. That's Trump loyalty.
No, wes, no.
I'm not loyal to Trump. If there were a better option (and please keep Gary Futile Johnson in your pants, you know that's not realistic) I'd look at it. There's not.
I would be just as "loyal" to whoever was running against her. Since there isn't anyone else, I just don't CARE what he's done. There's nothing anyone can come up with short of eating babies for breakfast that is going to make him worse than her.
He's been sued a bunch? So what. Don't care. She's the most corrupt bitch ever.
He sometimes says dumb things? So what. Don't care. She's evil.
He's been married a bunch? So what. Don't care. She's a withered whore.
He's racist, misogynist, xena, homa, roma, doma, rinky dinky doo? So what. Don't care. She's the devil incarnate.
I just don't care. She is, in my personal opinion, the worst human being alive today. She may be the worst who ever lived. She's in that group.
That's the beginning and end of my "loyalty." I'm baffled that you (and others) can't comprehend this extremely simple fact. And yes, it is a fact.
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Also not "fact." Your interpretation of a poll that may be biased in its very nature, may be flawed in its execution, may have little or no validity.
How the fuck are Bloomberg polls "biased in their very nature"? Or every other poll for that matter? Why are only the rare ones that show some sort of momentum or positive for Trump valid, but the exact same pollsters are "biased" when the chips are down? How did this bottomfeeder/Alex Jones type of lunatic conspiracy theory become mainstream?
Again. Not a fact. Your expectation of how some random someone would react to an event that hadn't happened, didn't happen or was interpreted by you in a way that others did not.
Zero facts, sir.
Hillary never directly, purposefully, shamelessly insulted the troops in this way. You and others will cling to your death on a tactical error she made (that I acknowledge was bad) and use that to say that is IRREDEEMABLE BECAUSE SHE HATES THE TROOPS and yet Trump can fucking call them all thieves and say they're "living well" off of stolen loot, and that's perfectly fine.
The poll numbers are FACTS, but you don't like them, so they're meaningless.
The video and quotes from Trump are FACTS but you have some excuse lined up that you haven't yet presented to explain how he didn't really say what he very clearly fucking said.
He did nothing of the sort. YOU (and other haters) took what he said and made it into something it isn't. It's a trend I've noticed numerous times in this discussion. You assert your own personal interpretation of an event or comment as fact. It's not. And then you extend the error by making rash assumptions about how others MIGHT react to a different situation.
How about instead of just hurling insults, you address the fucking issue I'm presenting and EXPLAIN to me how YOU interpreted this very obvious attack on our troops? I'd fucking love to hear your irrational spin on this. What did he mean by "How about bringing baskets of money, millions of millions of dollars and handing it out. I wanna know, who are the soldiers that had that job? Cause I think they're living very well right now whoever they may be."
Here is an account from a US soldier who "had that job".
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/06/iraq-veteran-responds-to-trumps-baskets-of-money-remarks-in-epic-twitter-rant
Just a small warning, I’m about to go on a bit of a rant.
I rarely discuss politics on this platform, but yesterday, the Republican nominee for President said something that compels me to speak out.
I spent five years, from 2006-2011 as a Sergeant in the U.S. Army.
When I deployed to Iraq in 2009 I was made Non Commissioned Officer in Charge of Foreign Claims for the entirety of Western Baghdad.
That’s an area that covers roughly 5 million people. I was 21 years old and will admit, very much in over my head.
My job for a whole year was to assess damage to Iraqi citizen’s property, and person and compensate them monetarily.
So if a helicopter dropped a flare and burned a kid, or an MRAP ran into a generator or someone's goat while on patrol...
Or we killed someone in the line of fire, it was my job to make it right.
Affected citizens would make the drive from as far as Lebanon on a weekly basis to see if their claims had been adjudicated.
The job was tough, almost impossible, but it was the just thing to do and helped build a bridge of trust between us and the citizenry.
I basically spent a year of my life in an aluminum trailer, away from my friends and family enduring mortar attacks nearly every night.
There was always more to do, and the stack of files and faces never dwindled. I got half a day off every two weeks.
I had to look widows and orphans in the eye as tears ran down their cheeks telling me through an interpreter their heartbreaking stories.
Every mission out into the city carried with it tremendous risk, but we had a job to do, and forcibly put that out of our minds.
In the course of my job, I was entrusted with a lot of taxpayer money, all in American cash.
As a result, we instantly became a high value target for insurgents who wanted to relieve us of said cash at one of our weekly gatherings.
Yesterday, @realDonaldTrump, a man who never served in any capacity said this about me and my brethren that served in Iraq.
“How about bringing baskets of money — millions and millions of dollars — and handing it out?â€
"I want to know who were the soldiers that had that job, because I think they’re living very well right now.†http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-us-troop-stole-millions-and-millions-in-iraq-224352
“Iraq, crooked as hell. How about bringing baskets of money — millions and millions of dollars — and handing it out?,†Trump said at an evening rally.
I am living well right now - some student loan debt aside - but not because I pocketed the hard-earned taxpayer money that I was entrusted.
In my time overseas, the procedures that were put in place to prevent that from happening were frustratingly thorough.
The idea that Trump would call out the integrity of those who answered the call of service and deployed to a war zone is repellant.
For this reason, and many more, he’s proven that he’s someone with neither the temperament, nor the character, to be Commander in Chief.
Don’t believe him when he says he’s for Veterans. It's lip service entirely.
Tell that soldier he's a thief and he's wrong. Tell him that Trump meant something else entirely from what he meant. Tell him it wasn't slimy.
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How the fuck are Bloomberg polls "biased in their very nature"? Or every other poll for that matter? Why are only the rare ones that show some sort of momentum or positive for Trump valid, but the exact same pollsters are "biased" when the chips are down? How did this bottomfeeder/Alex Jones type of lunatic conspiracy theory become mainstream?
Polls are, by their very nature, subject to bias. Depends on how the question was phrased, what the possible answers are, the population that was polled, etc.
You know how polls work.
And I don't think I've ever said one poll was better than another, only that there are others that have different conclusions. I really don't give a shit in a peach basket what any poll says. They're often wrong.
Also nobody said Alex Jones or anything else was mainstream. I don't even know who that is. Or what he wrote. Again? Don't care.
Hillary never directly, purposefully, shamelessly insulted the troops in this way. You and others will cling to your death on a tactical error she made (that I acknowledge was bad) and use that to say that is IRREDEEMABLE BECAUSE SHE HATES THE TROOPS and yet Trump can fucking call them all thieves and say they're "living well" off of stolen loot, and that's perfectly fine.
You failed to correctly interpret what was said. Your rage overwhelmed you. Nothing more to say.
The poll numbers are FACTS, but you don't like them, so they're meaningless.
Poll numbers are actually a reporting of opinion. Polls are subject to bias. ALL polls. And yes, all are essentially meaningless in my opinion. I hate them for their ability to shape a narrative.
The video and quotes from Trump are FACTS but you have some excuse lined up that you haven't yet presented to explain how he didn't really say what he very clearly fucking said.
Point of fact. Don't CARE what he said. Doesn't matter to me one bit.
Your INTERPRETATION of what he said, your OPINION of what he said, your reckless EXTRAPOLATION of what he said into some unrelated hysterical rant? Well, that's the point of contention.
Trump made a pee pee joke! OH NOES!!1!! He's a fucking MORAN!! If you can support him you're a facist! Your a racist! You watch XENA!! Got DAMN you redneck, blind fucking loyalist!1!! Why don't you care as hard as I do that he made a dumb joke???
That's the problem. Not what he said or didn't say.
How about instead of just hurling insults, you address the fucking issue I'm presenting and EXPLAIN to me how YOU interpreted this very obvious attack on our troops? I'd fucking love to hear your irrational spin on this. What did he mean by "How about bringing baskets of money, millions of millions of dollars and handing it out. I wanna know, who are the soldiers that had that job? Cause I think they're living very well right now whoever they may be."
When I decide to hurl an insult you'll know it. I'm a little disappointed that you think I have been, especially how creative I consider myself to be. If I truly wanted to insult you, there would be road rash all over your back.
"attack on our troops..."
Are you seriously going to claim that there were not those who profited from war? Who sold arms, who raided the aid shipments and cash flow? We know this to be true. It's been established. Where DID all that money go?
He wasn't saying by ANY stretch (except yours) that ALL troops did this. There were clearly some who did. And that's disgraceful. He's right about that.
Here is an account from a US soldier who "had that job".
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/06/iraq-veteran-responds-to-trumps-baskets-of-money-remarks-in-epic-twitter-rant
Tell that soldier he's a thief and he's wrong. Tell him that Trump meant something else entirely from what he meant. Tell him it wasn't slimy.
Well whoop-de-fuckin-doo. Maybe this guy didn't. Others damn sure did. So he can stow his outrage. And blow it out his ass. Most of the military in Vietnam were good, honest, decent soldiers. And there were some who weren't. Some who were brutal and unhinged. Some who profited from it. Same here. But please, post me a twitter rant from a Vietnam vet about how he didn't burn any villages. That will show me
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Oh, and one more thing.
Ronald Reagan was 10-15 points behind Carter in June. Who gives a fuck about a poll? Really?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/14/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-about-1980-ronald-reagan-race-a/
So, Carter did lead in seven of the eight polls, by an average of five percentage points.
What about the potential Trump-Clinton contest? Here are the polls released since March 1, 2016, that were publicly released by the time of Trump’s comment, according to realclearpolitics.com:
If you take the average of all these polls, Clinton leads Trump, 50 percent to 39 percent. That’s an 11-point advantage -- more than twice the size of Carter’s lead over Reagan in 1980 at the same point in the campaign.
So Trump’s numbers are not, contrary to his assertion, "better right now than Ronald Reagan's numbers were with Jimmy Carter." They are worse.
That was from two months ago. His numbers have continued to decline since.
Also the ONE AND ONLY poll in 1980, Gallup, was perfect and not at all flawed by your assertion. The fact that we have MULTIPLE of polls in 2016 for the very reason that we can average them to account for potential flaws in individual polls has no bearing.
https://newrepublic.com/article/107171/exploding-the-reagan-1980-comeback-myth
The legend of Reagan’s epic comeback is largely the result of anomalous Gallup polling, which even showed a Carter advantage over the final month of the campaign. But if RealClearPolitics or Pollster.com had existed in 1980, the conventional wisdom would have been a little different. In fact, Reagan held a lead from mid-September onward and had a two or three point lead heading into the debates. Private polling conducted for the Reagan and Carter campaigns showed the same thing. Reagan’s 10 point victory is a precedent for sweeping undecided voters, but it isn’t a model for a come-from-behind victory
Also not a factor that incumbent Carter was steadily declining, while newcomer Reagan was steadily increasing, save for one huge dip for Carter and one huge bump for Reagan around the conventions right before Carter support rallied.
http://themonkeycage.org/2012/08/what-really-happened-in-the-1980-presidential-campaign/
(http://themonkeycage.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/trialheats1980-1024x744.png)
Compare that with Trump's overall decline and Hillary's overall ascent. Apples and turnips.
Also not a factor that the January/early March polls tested Reagan just before he started winning the primaries whereas Trump has been locked in for a while now. Not a factor that Trump is doing the opposite.
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If I'm frustrated it's not with you. Where are you perceiving that? Show me a quote that is just pointless insults? Like, are you reading K's posts?
Still waiting on this.
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Oh, and one more thing.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/14/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-about-1980-ronald-reagan-race-a/That was from two months ago. His numbers have continued to decline since.
Also the ONE AND ONLY poll in 1980 was, Gallup, was perfect and not at all flawed by your assertation. The fact that we have MULTIPLE of polls in 2016 for the very reason that we can average them to account for potential flaws in individual polls has no bearing.
https://newrepublic.com/article/107171/exploding-the-reagan-1980-comeback-myth
Also not a factor that incumbent Carter was steadily declining, while newcomer Reagan was steadily increasing, save for one huge dip for Carter and one huge bump for Reagan around the conventions right before Carter support rallied.
http://themonkeycage.org/2012/08/what-really-happened-in-the-1980-presidential-campaign/
(http://themonkeycage.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/trialheats1980-1024x744.png)
Compare that with Trump's overall decline and Hillary's overall ascent. Apples and turnips.
Also not a factor that the January/early March polls tested Reagan just before he started winning the primaries whereas Trump has been locked in for a while now. Not a factor that Trump is doing the opposite.
Haven't even had the convention yet.
Let's wait and see before we have the inauguration based on your "polls" mmmmkay?
Thanks for posting from "the monkey cage" though. That's one hell of a legitimate site. How many monkeys live there?
(http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/reagan-carter-polls-575x411.jpg)
As I very clearly said, Carter still led until late July. There are the unbiased numbers. (facts).
Doesn't matter who was declining, rising, polling, strolling or soup bowling. We're not to July, the race (except by your flawed poll) is within five points or so, and a lot can happen.
Why Reagan even fell behind Carter again in September. Oh lord! Carter was rising!! It's over. Fucking Carter was president again. Whatever happened to that Reagan guy?
But if you want to win the Internet, I will send you a nice trophy. It won't mean anything, about like the polls, but at least you'll have it.
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Still waiting on this.
You'll be waiting a long, long time chief. General consensus is that you haven't been insulted.
I took a poll.
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As I very clearly said, Carter still led until late July. There are the unbiased numbers. (facts).
Um...
Polls are, by their very nature, subject to bias. Depends on how the question was phrased, what the possible answers are, the population that was polled, etc.
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And I don't think I've ever said one poll was better than another, only that there are others that have different conclusions. I really don't give a shit in a peach basket what any poll says. They're often wrong.
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Poll numbers are actually a reporting of opinion. Polls are subject to bias. ALL polls. And yes, all are essentially meaningless in my opinion. I hate them for their ability to shape a narrative.
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Missed this post earlier:
Seriously? You're going to claim that I'm insulting you? Page after page after page of "moron, mouthbreather, knuckle dragger, etc. ad infinitum" spewing from you and you're going to throw THAT stone? Come on, dude. I've been WAAAY civil. You haven't been insulted. I've asked questions like "are you insane" because the point you were trying to defend was absurd. I've poked at your arguments, but you'll have to search for where it was ever personal from me. I'm not really sure what you're reading.
Bull. Shit.
Where do I say "K is a knuckledragger" "K is a mouthbreather"? WHERE? I may say things like "Only an idiot could interpret X as Y". You don't HAVE to have those interpretations. You choose to because you can't ever fucking admit you made a bad argument. 99% of my statements in that ballpark have been directed specifically at things TRUMP says that are easily proven false and/or misleading and/or oversimplications with FACTS. The rest have been reserved for the ignoramuses at his rally barking "WHATEVER LYIN' TED!" in the face of facts. A tactic you've adopted here. Take from that what you will.
Come the fuck on. My ENTIRE ARGUMENT is that Trump is a better option than Hillary. That's the alpha and omega.
I find it unbelievable that you'd consider anything I've said to you "mudslinging." I've hurled zero "insults" at you.
Normally I'd ignore this and let it go, BUT I PRESENTED FOUR EXAMPLES FROM YOUR FOUR PREVIOUS POSTS. Those are FACTS. This is textbook to your problem with facts and what they are. You think you can just say that now and that negates the fucking litany of times you FACTUALLY hurled insults with no rhetorical purpose. Obviously some are buying it, so I guess it's working for you.
The reality remains the reality.
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Um...
Oh, I don't disagree. The polls may have been wrong all along. I find them essentially worthless.
Please recognize when a bear is poked with a sharp stick.
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Missed this post earlier:Bull. Shit.
Where do I say "K is a knuckledragger" "K is a mouthbreather"? WHERE? I may say things like "Only an idiot could interpret X as Y". You don't HAVE to have those interpretations. You choose to because you can't ever fucking admit you made a bad argument. 99% of my statements in that ballpark have been directed specifically at things TRUMP says that are easily proven false and/or misleading and/or oversimplications with FACTS. The rest have been reserved for the ignoramuses at his rally barking "WHATEVER LYIN' TED!" in the face of facts. A tactic you've adopted here. Take from that what you will.
A. You say "only a -- insert slur here -- could support Trump.
B. For reasons of my own, I support Trump.
If A is true and B is true, then C: I am -- insert slur here -- , must also be true.
Fact, schmact.
Your idea of a "fact" is illustrated thusly:
"Trump made a pee-pee joke." Ohhhhh SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!!!!!!! I told you!! HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND TRADE, COMMODITIES, NATURAL RESOURCES, GLOBAL WARMING (COOLING, CHANGE, CLIMATE), PIPELINES, OR ANYTHING!! HE'S A MORAN AND YOU ARE TOO IF YOU SUPPORT THIS DUMBASS!!! HE'S A DUMBASS BECAUSE OF THIS FACT, AND I ALREADY SAID HE WAS A DUMBASS, SO YOU MUST BE TOOOOO!!!!1!!11!!
Normally I'd ignore this and let it go, BUT I PRESENTED FOUR EXAMPLES FROM YOUR FOUR PREVIOUS POSTS. Those are FACTS. This is textbook to your problem with facts and what they are. You think you can just say that now and that negates the fucking litany of times you FACTUALLY hurled insults with no rhetorical purpose. Obviously some are buying it, so I guess it's working for you.
The reality remains the reality.
I have no problem with facts. Doesn't mean I have to CARE.
You've not been insulted, Chizad. I've poked fun at your point of view, but not at you personally. Whether you wish to recognize it or not, that's really not my style any longer.
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You've not been insulted, Chizad. I've poked fun at your point of view, but not at you personally. Whether you wish to recognize it or not, that's really not my style any longer.
I know you see that it is insanely hypocritical that you directly insulting me by CALLING ME dumb, infantile, ignorant, etc. is just "poking fun at my point of view" but me not even directly invoking you AT ALL by insulting Trump and his legion of supporters is a direct attack on you and serves no purpose but to insult.
IF ANYONE BELIEVES WHAT YOU JUST SAID they're idiots. I know you don't. No one else in this thread has to either.
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The polls from 1980 look similar to the ones now. Very ebb n flow. Far apart. Then close. Then back apart again. Then a little closer again. Then the conventions. Then the election. And so forth and so on.
For what it's worth some of these same polls had Cruz winning Indiana a work before the election there. And Rubio within the margin of error in Florida. Neither were even close.
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I know you see that it is insanely hypocritical that you directly insulting me by CALLING ME dumb, infantile, ignorant, etc. is just "poking fun at my point of view" but me not even directly invoking you AT ALL by saying Trump and his legion of supporters is a direct attack on you and serves no purpose but to insult.
IF ANYONE BELIEVES WHAT YOU JUST SAID they're idiots. I know you don't. No one else in this thread has to either.
Further, if Kaos isn't a Trump loyalist/supporter, then your comments don't apply to him.
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Tell that soldier he's a thief and he's wrong. Tell him that Trump meant something else entirely from what he meant. Tell him it wasn't slimy.
I got several guys that did not sit in a cushy air conditioned trailer the whole time that would tell this guy he wasn't the only one there. Others did what Trump is alluding to. But that too does not fit the "new" conservative narrative.
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Further, if Kaos isn't a Trump loyalist/supporter, then your comments don't apply to him.
BOOM. THAT RIGHT FUCKIN THERE.
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I know you see that it is insanely hypocritical that you directly insulting me by CALLING ME dumb, infantile, ignorant, etc. is just "poking fun at my point of view" but me not even directly invoking you AT ALL by saying Trump and his legion of supporters is a direct attack on you and serves no purpose but to insult.
IF ANYONE BELIEVES WHAT YOU JUST SAID they're idiots. I know you don't. No one else in this thread has to either.
None of those things have happened. I haven't called you dumb. I don't think you are. You've taken some really dumb positions, but haven't we all?
I said ONCE that your rant was infantile. That's not saying you're an infant. You know that.
Big difference in saying "your rant was infantile" and "only a moron would support trump..." One is a consideration of the tone of an argument, the other a direct comparison between Trump supporters and morons. You know that too.
I think everyone believes what I say. I'm straight legit that way.
Might be a good idea for you to go back and start on page one. Look at how many times you called us (and I'm lumping CCTAU and others in there) ignorant, idiots, etc. Maybe you won't be surprised. Maybe you will. I dunno.
I've tried to keep my end of it civilish. Yeah, I do childish things to amuse myself - like "lalalalala, not listening..." but I got no animus toward YOU, just your opinion on this one particular issue. Sorry if you thought it was more than that.
And btw? If you weren't joking, you seriously swung and missed on Wiregrass. That looked really bad if you were serious.
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Further, if Kaos isn't a Trump loyalist/supporter, then your comments don't apply to him.
His assertion and belief is that I was and am. His comments were largely directed at me in that he assumes me to be a Trumper.
And to the degree that he's a better option than Hillary? I'm wearing the Make America Great Again hat, shirt and boxers. Damn skippy.
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His assertion and belief is that I was and am. His comments were largely directed at me in that he assumes me to be a Trumper.
And to the degree that he's a better option than Hillary? I'm wearing the Make America Great Again hat, shirt and boxers. Damn skippy.
Like my wife said, "We are down to two. Its either him or her! Now that he is the nominee, get with the program!"
Every bash of Trump is an endorsement for hitlary.
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This is good.
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2016/06/15/my-lunch-with-hillary-n2178372
Like most politicians, she assumes problems are best solved with new rules. She doesn't notice that most new rules create new problems. Worse problems. Problems that often take away opportunity altogether.
I don't want to live in a shipping container. But when politicians say "no one" may, they prevent desperate people from improving their lives.
Yep.
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None of those things have happened. I haven't called you dumb.
You can say it 200 times. It will be a lie all 200 times.
Big difference in saying "your rant was infantile" and "only a moron would support trump..." One is a consideration of the tone of an argument, the other a direct comparison between Trump supporters and morons. You know that too.
No. The difference is one is an attack on ME and the other is an attack on AN IDEA. Yet the narrative we've somehow crafted here is that I'm the one hitting below the belt, which is simply amazing.
Might be a good idea for you to go back and start on page one. Look at how many times you called us (and I'm lumping CCTAU and others in there) ignorant, idiots, etc. Maybe you won't be surprised. Maybe you will. I dunno.
Maybe you should. Hundreds of examples of exactly what we're talking about here. From at least 5 or 6 different people. Directly insulting me (and wes). Seriously, do it. There are about 5 different insults toward the two of us before I make the first post in here. And then a torrent of them as soon as I do. Check the tape. You're making shit up again.
And btw? If you weren't joking, you seriously swung and missed on Wiregrass. That looked really bad if you were serious.
How so? I'm aware that all he has contributed is trolling. Somehow this became a referendum on ME who is incapable of making an argument without just needlessly hurling insults. If that describes anyone it's his behavior toward me, whether he's being sincere or not.
His assertion and belief is that I was and am. His comments were largely directed at me in that he assumes me to be a Trumper.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You have got to be dizzy from all that spinning. If anything I'm giving you reasons why you shouldn't be, as futile as that may be.
Which goes back to what makes this whole discussion so hilarious. A few pages ago you were going on about how unlike me, you are capable of independent rational thought and I'm just a brainwashed idiot who parrots whatever (insert liberal comedian) tells me. And then out of the other side of your mouth you say that no preponderance of evidence can persuade you from changing your stubborn mind and you don't give a damn what anyone else thinks. If so, then why do you give so much of a fuck what I "perceive" you to be? Could it be that you are purposely manipulating the argument to spin and defer from your refusal to acknowledge facts?
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*sigh*
Unreal.
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You can say it 200 times. It will be a lie all 200 times.
Isn't, wasn't and will never be a lie.
No. The difference is one is an attack on ME and the other is an attack on AN IDEA. Yet the narrative we've somehow crafted here is that I'm the one hitting below the belt, which is simply amazing.
I'm hardly the only one saying it.
Maybe you should. Hundreds of examples of exactly what we're talking about here. From at least 5 or 6 different people. Directly insulting me (and wes). Seriously, do it. There are about 5 different insults toward the two of us before I make the first post in here. And then a torrent of them as soon as I do. Check the tape. You're making shit up again.
Horse shit. Utter horseshit. You're the one perceived as screaming, shouting, ranting, insulting. I'm not the one wearing that crown.
How so? I'm aware that all he has contributed is trolling. Somehow this became a referendum on ME who is incapable of making an argument without just needlessly hurling insults. If that describes anyone it's his behavior toward me, whether he's being sincere or not.
The fact that you can't see his responses as nonsensical and playing is a clear and compelling referendum on your inability get down off the ledge.
It says a ton about your mental state as it pertains to this argument.
It casts doubt upon every emotional response you display. Really does.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You have got to be dizzy from all that spinning. If anything I'm giving you reasons why you shouldn't be, as futile as that may be.
Which goes back to what makes this whole discussion so hilarious. A few pages ago you were going on about how unlike me, you are capable of independent rational thought and I'm just a brainwashed idiot who parrots whatever (insert liberal comedian) tells me. And then out of the other side of your mouth you say that no preponderance of evidence can persuade you from changing your stubborn mind and you don't give a damn what anyone else thinks. If so, then why do you give so much of a fuck what I "perceive" you to be? Could it be that you are purposely manipulating the argument to spin and defer from your refusal to acknowledge facts?
What part of this are you missing? How many times do I have to spell it out for you?
I've done my own research. I've thought (and maybe even -gasp!- prayed) about it. She's the worst human being I've ever personally witnessed. (And by personally witnessed I mean watched her political life, I don't know her). That simple fact (there's that word again) renders anything you say in regard to Trump irrelevant. If you can show me photos of him actually eating babies at his breakfast table, then I could potentially be swayed. But videos of him making jokes, saying goofy things, having bad hair? Fucking polls? All that shit? It's pointless. Because I don't care.
I'm not manipulating anything because it makes not one fuck to me.
I am, in some cases, pointing out how utterly blind you are to anything but "OH NOES!!1! He's a moron!" point of view. You've taken some pretty innocuous statements and tried to turn them into mountains. It's hysterical (not in the ha ha way), it's a little insulting, and it's borderline frothing at the mouth.
You're digging a big hole. Probably time to put the shovel down.
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I am, in some cases, pointing out how utterly blind you are to anything but "OH NOES!!1! He's a moron!" point of view. You've taken some pretty innocuous statements and tried to turn them into mountains. It's hysterical (not in the ha ha way), it's a little insulting, and it's borderline frothing at the mouth.
You're digging a big hole. Probably time to put the shovel down.
Oh shit!
Here comes another barrage of links about how Trump injured another person with his hateful words...
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Isn't, wasn't and will never be a lie.
I'm hardly the only one saying it.
Horse shit. Utter horseshit. You're the one perceived as screaming, shouting, ranting, insulting. I'm not the one wearing that crown.
Only ONE other person in this thread hasn't basically in some form or another said they would vote for fucking Hitler if he ran against Hillary and therefore could give a fuck less about facts or any argument presented here. If therefore they want to lionize you and demonize me, or in the very least look away and let your flagrant bullshit run unchecked has absolutely no bearing on reality. None. I don't care if zero people agree with me. I invited you to post my first insult in this thread, and yet you won't. Because you know that if you can even find one, it is a FACT that I can post 50 more aimed at me, that are probably much more direct and much worse, that preceded it. Please, please try to disprove that fact. I'm waiting. Still waiting on GH too since he's the Tom Ritter of this thread. Check the replay, Tom.
The fact that you can't see his responses as nonsensical and playing is a clear and compelling referendum on your inability get down off the ledge.
It says a ton about your mental state as it pertains to this argument.
It casts doubt upon every emotional response you display. Really does.
Can you read? You are not demonstrating that you have that ability. What part of this quote is confusing to you and implies, as you say here, that I don't recognize them as "nonsensical and playing". Where? Point to it.
How so? I'm aware that all he has contributed is trolling. Somehow this became a referendum on ME who is incapable of making an argument without just needlessly hurling insults. If that describes anyone it's his behavior toward me, whether he's being sincere or not.
Your whole argument is to blur reality and fact and truth and say what clearly fucking happened never happened. I recognize it as adopting Trump's entire strategy. I'm not one of the rubes that falls for that shit.
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Only ONE other person in this thread hasn't basically in some form or another said they would vote for fucking Hitler if he ran against Hillary and therefore could give a fuck less about facts or any argument presented here. If therefore they want to lionize you and demonize me, or in the very least look away and let your flagrant bullshit run unchecked has absolutely no bearing on reality. None. I don't care if zero people agree with me. I invited you to post my first insult in this thread, and yet you won't. Because you know that if you can even find one, it is a FACT that I can post 50 more aimed at me, that are probably much more direct and much worse, that preceded it. Please, please try to disprove that fact. I'm waiting. Still waiting on GH too since he's the Tom Ritter of this thread. Check the replay, Tom.
You've lost here. It's accepted across the board that you've been slinging insults like Willy Wonka slings chocolate.
I told you I took a POLL, dammit.
There are no insults aimed at you. Those are in your mind.
But since you asked:
Bigger wallet penis insult:
Tell me more about how smart and successful you are compared to me, while I tell you what it was like to leave Prattville for the real world. I rate this one in the condescending category.
Deadbrain insult
"YOU REALIZE I'M A BRAINWASHED IDIOT THAT WILL LITERALLY ELECT HITLER OR KIM JONG IL BECAUSE REPUBLICAN!!!"
Yes. I realize that. You seem to think it's a virtue. It makes you a braindead idiot. And dangerous.
Ooooops. The first mud is on your dirty little hands (do you have that in common with Der Trumper? Small hands?)
We dumb insult
it is a simple known fact that the dumber a person is, the easier they are to brainwash. Trump knows how to does it to great effect. This is what is happening to you Trump fans rather you choose to realize it or not.
(It should be noted at this point that other than CCTAU, perhaps, nobody had said a bad thing about Chizad at all).
Shall I continue? Let's.
Nine pages in, I finally tell you to stop beating the same dead drum and looking goofier for doing so. Is that it? Is that the insult?
Another one
Remember what I've been saying about manipulating idiots? Just put a minimal effort into not to being one.
I'm tired of finding these for you. I saw a few where CCTAU may have called you some unkind names, but contrary to your stated belief, it wasn't me.
Can you read? You are not demonstrating that you have that ability. What part of this quote is confusing to you and implies, as you say here, that I don't recognize them as "nonsensical and playing". Where? Point to it.Your whole argument is to blur reality and fact and truth and say what clearly fucking happened never happened. I'm recognize it as adopting Trump's entire strategy. I'm not one of the rubes that falls for that shit.
Dude. You shit the bed over his jibes. You took his clowning and (to borrow from a short-armed early adopter) crapped the slacks. Everybody saw it. You can't back up and call it chocolate pudding now. The smell is still here.
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But since you asked:
Ok, to preface this, I want to clearly state that I don't give a flying woopty fuck how much you insult me in this thread. The only reason I've taken it to this granular level is your CONTINUOUS dishonesty and distortion of facts.
It should also be noted that WireGrass's "hilarious" AUChizad! persona could possibly be contributing to some of the confusion about me being the one making needlessly inflammatory comments if anyone actually still buys that bullshit. So here we go.
Bigger wallet penis insult:
Tell me more about how smart and successful you are compared to me, while I tell you what it was like to leave Prattville for the real world. I rate this one in the condescending category.
You acknowledge that this was a DIRECT response to his 3 or 400th insult in this thread.
As should be obvious by the context of the quote you pulled, I am SPECIFICALLY REFERENCING HIS insult about MY intelligence and success.
Here is the quote. Check the goddamn tape.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
Explain to me how him throwing that insult out at me was fair game, but me REFERENCING HIS INSULT is over the line. Apparently I need to be educated. Because I'm dumb, right?
Deadbrain insult
"YOU REALIZE I'M A BRAINWASHED IDIOT THAT WILL LITERALLY ELECT HITLER OR KIM JONG IL BECAUSE REPUBLICAN!!!"
Yes. I realize that. You seem to think it's a virtue. It makes you a braindead idiot. And dangerous.
Ooooops. The first mud is on your dirty little hands (do you have that in common with Der Trumper? Small hands?)
Needless to say this is me replying one of the 500 times you've repeatedly proudly told me that NO INFORMATION CAN PERMEATE YOUR SKULL. This is satirizing your position. Because it's a ridiculous one even though you seem to think it signifies virtue since you cling to it and repeat it into infinity. And again I say what I said above. THAT POSITION is not a virtue, as you think it is. It is the sign of ignorance. If you need me to pull out a dictionary on that term, I can. Refusing to accept new knowledge or understanding? Ignorance. By all means, you can step out of the tactic of being willfully ignorant and consider ANY fact that is being introduced to the conversation. And you know what else is ignorant? Failing to see that I used the word as a rhetorical point that related to the ARGUMENT you were making, not you as a person.
Anyway, here are some more quotes from you that precede that one you just posted in this thread as your "first insult".
Do you realize just how fucking STUPID that article is?
Trump didn't bring new voters. But more people voted in the primary. And more people voted for him than any candidate in history. But they weren't new voters.
And if Hillary can get all the people who voted for Obama to vote for her, plus a few more, she might still win!
Fuck you for posting that idiotic drivel. And fuck me for reading any of it.
If we're playing by your rules, you're attributing the views of the article I posted to me and saying I'm "idiotic" and "fucking STUPID". Also "Fuck you" is not normally considered part of polite discourse.
Here's one from earlier in the thread:
You live in a world that does not exist.
Congratulations on making it to Fantasy Island. Tell Tattoo hello from those of us who live, work and survive in the real world.
Is calling people delusional and crazy considered polite conversation?
Here's another post from you before my first "sling of mud".
Gary Johnson has no chance to beat Hillary or impact the election in any meaningful way. If he did I would consider it.
It's a fruitbat vote. It's a waste. It's essentially a vote for her.
No thanks.
Remember, your rules about how if I insult "people who support Trump" and "I assert you to support Trump", then I am insulting you directly, right?
So you're calling ME directly a fruitbat, right? Or have the rules changed again?
I could go on, but I think anyone who gives the slightest shit about reality is well beyond convinced that you're starkly, clearly, objectively lying about this and distorting the events that took place in reality to fit your narrative.
We dumb insult
it is a simple known fact that the dumber a person is, the easier they are to brainwash. Trump knows how to does it to great effect. This is what is happening to you Trump fans rather you choose to realize it or not.
Why did you clip off that sentence?
Yeah, I know you could give a fuck less what the creator of Dilbert says on the Bill Maher show, but I thought this was really interesting and does a lot to explain exactly what I have said in this thread a million times.
He's great at manipulating dumb people. I say that not as a slander as much as to say that it is a simple known fact that the dumber a person is, the easier they are to brainwash. Trump knows how to does it to great effect.
This is what is happening to you Trump fans rather you choose to realize it or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMERNoQm5DE
Not only SHOULD it be obvious that I'm making a broader point, and intelligence is simply a specifically relevant part of that point, I explicitly and superfluously say that my purpose in bringing it up is not to be insulting.
Shall I continue? Let's.
Nine pages in, I finally tell you to stop beating the same dead drum and looking goofier for doing so. Is that it? Is that the insult?
Here are more from before that one.
You're trolling right along with the left-skewed media and thinking all these "reports" and opinions are somehow valid. That moronic thing you posted about Hillary keeping all of Obama's votes, therefore Trump didn't bring anybody to the party was an enormous pile of dung. Garbage. It shows how stupid and desperate the media is to find some negative.
I thought you were smarter than that. Why are you buying their bullshit in bulk and passing on the treason committed by Hellary? Why are you ignoring her husband's 20-something trips with a pedophile to "orgy island?" She knew. Why are you dismissing the fact that she deleted thousands of incriminating emails? That she lied to Congress? That she got Americans killed by her indifference as Secretary of State? She's a criminal. Any one of those things is a thousand times worse than the combined total of "well Trump sold steaks, and thought he had more money than he did, and uhhhh, isn't getting more votes even though he is..." fucking idiocy you keep posting. Any one of them is exponentially worse.
Now I know you've lost your mind.
Yay, we finally made it to your "first" insult on page 9 you referenced.
Your point is stupid and without merit. But keep beating that dull drum and looking goofier by the day.
Here's where we get into the retarded meta-argument that we've been having ever since because of your strange refusal to acknowledge what facts are. It's full of insults. I'll skip right on past those to your next point.
Another one
Remember what I've been saying about manipulating idiots? Just put a minimal effort into not to being one.
This was in reference to the whole "La Rasa" bullshit. Trump told people they were the same. They were not the same. I did not say anyone was an idiot. I said PUT A MINIMAL EFFORT IN NOT BEING ONE. Meaning, all you have to do is apply the absolute MINIMUM amount of scrutiny Trump says instead of googling far-right lunatic fringe conspiracy theory blogs that propagandize for him, try actually seeing what ANY mainstream news site, hell, even Fox News, has to say about it. That's all. Again, I think I'm being quite clear unless your asshole's chapped and you're DYING to take offense to anything and everything I say.
I'm tired of finding these for you. I saw a few where CCTAU may have called you some unkind names, but contrary to your stated belief, it wasn't me.
Here's where I differentiate what you do with what he does. Explicitly.
Kaos at least tries to back his arguments up with bloviated word salad about how IT DOESN'T MATTER that Trump can say and do the most vapid despicable things because he's not Hillary.
CCTAU's arguments have pretty much all begun and ended with "Beta male", "kids these days don't get it", or "ur a dumb moran". Never even attempts to say anything of substance at all. Exactly the type that thinks "Whatever Lyin' Ted!" trumps a valid argument.
As I said at the top of this post, I don't really give a shit about your insults until you tell me that my indirect rhetorical comments are way over the line and you've just been a fucking angel this whole time. It's horseshit, and you've forced me to present it back out here to wrestle in it. I like that EVEN YOU can't defend the fact that CCTAU does nothing but post complete trash insults at me with clockwork regularity. Same with Wiregrass but he doesn't count because his trolling is so darn funny I guess. War Eagle!!! and even Token have gotten their share of insults in as well if we're counting.
Yeah, it matters in a conversation where we're talking about what an asshole I am that can't have a civilized discussion and pretty much all I do is shake off a barage of insults, for the most part completely ignoring them and trying to stick to FACTS.
And with that, I'm done. Again. Just keep lying and manipulating what transpired here. Keep lying. Keep spinning. Keep ignoring facts. I'm done giving a fuck about it.
I'll be back tomorrow with Trump's next ridiculous disqualifying-in-a-sane-world rhetoric. Go right ahead and spin it all you want.
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Is this the place to insert an apology for pointing out chizad's little horn...
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Ok, to preface this, I want to clearly state that I don't give a flying woopty fuck how much you insult me in this thread. The only reason I've taken it to this granular level is your CONTINUOUS dishonesty and distortion of facts.
Good. Because I haven't insulted you yet.
It should also be noted that WireGrass's "hilarious" AUChizad! persona could possibly be contributing to some of the confusion about me being the one making needlessly inflammatory comments if anyone actually still buys that bullshit. So here we go.
You acknowledge that this was a DIRECT response to his 3 or 400th insult in this thread.
Nope. I'm not acknowledging this at all. That there is between you and him. But I didn't see an insult prior to you going off on how stupid he was and how his wallet penis was smaller than yorn.
As should be obvious by the context of the quote you pulled, I am SPECIFICALLY REFERENCING HIS insult about MY intelligence and success.
Here is the quote. Check the goddamn tape.
Explain to me how him throwing that insult out at me was fair game, but me REFERENCING HIS INSULT is over the line. Apparently I need to be educated. Because I'm dumb, right?
quote author=AUChizad link=topic=27192.msg416488#msg416488 date=1466024730]
Needless to say this is me replying one of the 500 times you've repeatedly proudly told me that NO INFORMATION CAN PERMEATE YOUR SKULL. This is satirizing your position. Because it's a ridiculous one even though you seem to think it signifies virtue since you cling to it and repeat it into infinity. And again I say what I said above. THAT POSITION is not a virtue, as you think it is. It is the sign of ignorance. If you need me to pull out a dictionary on that term, I can. Refusing to accept new knowledge or understanding? Ignorance. By all means, you can step out of the tactic of being willfully ignorant and consider ANY fact that is being introduced to the conversation. And you know what else is ignorant? Failing to see that I used the word as a rhetorical point that related to the ARGUMENT you were making, not you as a person.
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Wrrrrrrong again. I said I'm entrenched on this issue only.
Anyway, here are some more quotes from you that precede that one you just posted in this thread as your "first insult".
If we're playing by your rules, you're attributing the views of the article I posted to me and saying I'm "idiotic" and "fucking STUPID". Also "Fuck you" is not normally considered part of polite discourse.
Here's one from earlier in the thread:Is calling people delusional and crazy considered polite conversation?
Here's another post from you before my first "sling of mud".Remember, your rules about how if I insult "people who support Trump" and "I assert you to support Trump", then I am insulting you directly, right?
So you're calling ME directly a fruitbat, right? Or have the rules changed again?
I could go on, but I think anyone who gives the slightest shit about reality is well beyond convinced that you're starkly, clearly, objectively lying about this and distorting the events that took place in reality to fit your narrative.
Why did you clip off that sentence?
Not only SHOULD it be obvious that I'm making a broader point, and intelligence is simply a specifically relevant part of that point, I explicitly and superfluously say that my purpose in bringing it up is not to be insulting.
Here are more from before that one.
Yay, we finally made it to your "first" insult on page 9 you referenced.
Here's where we get into the retarded meta-argument that we've been having ever since because of your strange refusal to acknowledge what facts are. It's full of insults. I'll skip right on past those to your next point.
This was in reference to the whole "La Rasa" bullshit. Trump told people they were the same. They were not the same. I did not say anyone was an idiot. I said PUT A MINIMAL EFFORT IN NOT BEING ONE. Meaning, all you have to do is apply the absolute MINIMUM amount of scrutiny Trump says instead of googling far-right lunatic fringe conspiracy theory blogs that propagandize for him, try actually seeing what ANY mainstream news site, hell, even Fox News, has to say about it. That's all. Again, I think I'm being quite clear unless your asshole's chapped and you're DYING to take offense to anything and everything I say.
Here's where I differentiate what you do with what he does. Explicitly.
As I said at the top of this post, I don't really give a shit about your insults until you tell me that my indirect rhetorical comments are way over the line and you've just been a fucking angel this whole time. It's horseshit, and you've forced me to present it back out here to wrestle in it. I like that EVEN YOU can't defend the fact that CCTAU does nothing but post complete trash insults at me with clockwork regularity. Same with Wiregrass but he doesn't count because his trolling is so darn funny I guess. War Eagle!!! and even Token have gotten their share of insults in as well if we're counting.
Yeah, it matters in a conversation where we're talking about what an asshole I am that can't have a civilized discussion and pretty much all I do is shake off a barage of insults, for the most part completely ignoring them and trying to stick to FACTS.
And with that, I'm done. Again. Just keep lying and manipulating what transpired here. Keep lying. Keep spinning. Keep ignoring facts. I'm done giving a fuck about it.
I'll be back tomorrow with Trump's next ridiculous disqualifying-in-a-sane-world rhetoric. Go right ahead and spin it all you want.
Aaaaahhhhhh. Fuck it. Not worth the effort.
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Nope. I'm not acknowledging this at all. That there is between you and him. But I didn't see an insult prior to you going off on how stupid he was and how his wallet penis was smaller than yorn.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
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That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
That might be the dumbest thing you have said yet. Many on the right did not vote for Trump, but have now moved behind him since he is the nominee. Many of those are much smarter and more successful than you will ever be. But you think of yourself as one of the elite who gets it, while those dumbass rednecks do not. Look around you. Most everyone you see will be voting Trump. They just don't run out and toot the horn for him. And as you toot your little horn against him, you may as well be tooting for hitlary. But at least you cannot smell that from your perch.
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I read every one of those. They seemed a bit redundant. After about the 19th one it was like I'd read it somewhere before. Did ghandi write any of them?
I searched for an insult. Didn't see it in any of those.
But again that's the dynamic between you two. I'm not a part of it.
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It should also be noted that WireGrass's "hilarious" AUChizad! persona could possibly be contributing to some of the confusion about me being the one making needlessly inflammatory comments if anyone actually still buys that bullshoot.
Wait... There's 2 Chizads?
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Ok so I admit I had to remember who Tom Ritter was. Ha. Ok yeah that's me.
Srs guys - this is ridiculous. Like I said a couple of pages back, there is a way to debate and disagree without the multiple paragraph post pissing contest that looks like two frat boys fighting over a piece of ass.
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Ok so I admit I had to remember who Tom Ritter was. Ha. Ok yeah that's me.
Srs guys - this is ridiculous. Like I said a couple of pages back, there is a way to debate and disagree without the multiple paragraph post pissing contest that looks like two frat boys fighting over a piece of ass.
I won the ass a long time ago. Wait.... You know what I mean.
For the record? Fuck you is the height of polite discourse on this board. It means we care enough to curse you.
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I won the ass a long time ago. Wait.... You know what I mean.
For the record? Fuck you is the height of polite discourse on this board. It means we care enough to curse you.
Fuck you!
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Fuck you!
Awwww. I never knew you cared.
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Awwww. I never knew you cared.
I don't. Well, the sign in front of our building says I do. But really, I don't. Fuck you! Oh, and the horse you rode in on. Fuck him too.
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I don't. Well, the sign in front of our building says I do. But really, I don't. Fuck you! Oh, and the horse you rode in on. Fuck him too.
Don't talk about my horse. It rode me up to the Trump train. Hillary poisoned it (what difference does it make anyway?). Then Chizad screamed at it, called it ugly names and beat on it after it was dead.
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Don't talk about my horse. It rode me up to the Trump train. Hillary poisoned it (what difference does it make anyway?). Then Chizad screamed at it, called it ugly names and beat on it after it was dead.
Well, he was justified. The horse insulted him 500 times first.
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Don't talk about my horse. It rode me up to the Trump train. Hillary poisoned it (what difference does it make anyway?). Then Chizad screamed at it, called it ugly names and beat on it after it was dead.
Could it be that chad likes trump and that this is the biggest troll of all time? The boy does have some epic Twitter battles
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Is this where I vote Trump for president?
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Damn. He really is sensitive about his little horn.
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Ok, so no matter what FACTS I provide., it seems most of you are going to support someone who brings a very narrow and illogical point of view over mine. I am used to this.
FACT: I do not have a little horn.
And I have a big fat trucker's wallet with a chain on it. I got it at the Wire Road truck stop. Has AU burned into the leather and it is stacked fat with cash.
I don't need to use spell check or a thesaurus when I post. Yes, I am smart but I am not boastful. I have an incredibly sharp sense of humor. I have even used the :rofl: before.
But it seems that I can't win the support of the majority on the x in my debates with Kaos. I must admit that it gets frustrating when I work so hard to supply links and FACTS while he and others hurl personal insults. I'm tired of people talking about my pee pee.
I'm tired of the blabbing and I'm afraid it may escalate to the point of my punching someone in the face.
So, I'm leaving for good...again. Goodbye cruel x. Idiots.
This shit is not funny.
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This shit is not funny.
Agreed. You want me to punch him for you? We'll show him who's tough.
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Agreed. You want me to punch him for you? We'll show him who's tough.
I thought yall broke up?
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I thought yall broke up?
We did but I can't sit idly while he's being picked on. He's obviously in a fragile mental state.
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http://www.caintv.com/why-trump-was-100-percent-righ
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We all still hate bammer right? Let's focus on that.
71 more days...
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We all still hate bammer right? Let's focus on that.
71 more days...
FUCK YOU
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We all still hate bammer right? Let's focus on that.
71 more days...
Show me one single FACT to support the notion that you hate Bammer.
EDIT: And at least 17 links. More would be nice.
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Or is it just fuck you? I'm confused on which style is the X term of endearment. All caps or no?
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FCUK YOU, ALL OF YOU.
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FUCK YOU
Anytime for you cowboy. Also only if you holler War Eagle as you climax.
and at least all of us can agree that we hate fucking dallas, I mean I would vote for Hillary over dallas.
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I think, we all think the debate was a nice idea. But not pointin’ any fingers, it could’ve been done better.
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I think, we all think the debate was a nice idea. But not pointin’ any fingers, it could’ve been done better.
This was a debate? Oh shit I thought everyone was just talking about each others "junk".
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http://www.caintv.com/why-trump-was-100-percent-righ (http://www.caintv.com/why-trump-was-100-percent-righ)
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Anytime for you cowboy. Also only if you holler War Eagle as you climax.
and at least all of us can agree that we hate fucking dallas, I mean I would vote for Hillary over dallas.
That is utter bullshit right there. at least I hope it is
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Or is it just fudge you? I'm confused on which style is the X term of endearment. All caps or no?
Case and punctuation matter not on THE x.
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http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1079423/
Trump has $1.28 million cash on hand, which in presidential election campaign terms is basically functionally $0.
Hillary has $40 million CoH.
Cruz has $6.8 million CoH and he ended his campaign months ago.
Ben. Fucking. Carson. has more cash on hand at $1.8 million.
Trump's campaign is $45.7 IN DEBT.
Trump raised a total of $3.1 million in May..
Hillary raised $1.4 million more than this. Tonight.
Cruz dropped out on May 3rd, to be exact. And yet he raised $2.7 million in May, nearly as much as Trump.
Here is a visual:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClcIsgZWIAA-paA?format=jpg&name=large)
Hillary and her PACs are spending $117 million on ads.
Trump is running $700,000. 167 to 1 advantage Hillary.
Hillary is paying 700 more staffers than Trump.
He's not trying to fundraise because he lied to you and said he was rich enough to fund his own campaign.
Most of the money he is raising is going to his own companies and properties. When he said he's self-funding, he meant he's taking sucker's money and funding his businesses.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClcTBxZWgAQMNZl?format=jpg&name=large)
His single biggest campaign expense in May was a payment of $423,371.70 to Mar-A-Lago, a club that he owns.
He is not trying to win. He wants to lose. He wanted Hillary to win from the beginning. You were all conned. It was glaringly obvious to most of us. Great job.
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160314/donald-hillary-800.jpg)
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Exhale when you smoke that shit dude. You gonna choke to death!
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Exhale when you smoke that shoot dude. You gonna choke to death!
Serious question for you - how else do you explain the crap sandwich that is the state of his campaign?
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Serious question for you - how else do you explain the crap sandwich that is the state of his campaign?
That's painting it positively...
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Exhale when you smoke that shit dude. You gonna choke to death!
Ironic since you're the one whose mind and judgment is clouded by the Trump drug.
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Ironic since you're the one whose mind and judgment is clouded by the Trump drug.
Your hatred of all things Trump has you gushing over any doom and gloom information about him. But I think you might be getting giddy too soon. Even the ultra liberal yahoo finance is not as giddy as you. And most times they are like a little schoolgirl too:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-trouble-why-could-140147370.html
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Serious question for you - how else do you explain the crap sandwich that is the state of his campaign?
These are some of the things that concerned me before the primary was over - when Rubio, Kasich and Cruz were still in it. I thought they would all be much better at this part of it. The Cruz and Rubio campaigns were ran very well as far as being methodical and fundraising, microtargeting etc.
And sadly, there isn't a good way to spin much of those numbers. I've read a lot of independent analysis of it and it's pretty bad. The Donald needs an about face and fast. And this is all before Hillary actually gets the entire dem vote to herself with Bernie not being out yet.
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Your hatred of all things Trump has you gushing over any doom and gloom information about him. But I think you might be getting giddy too soon. Even the ultra liberal yahoo finance is not as giddy as you. And most times they are like a little schoolgirl too:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-trouble-why-could-140147370.html
It's somewhere in the middle. Prob not as dire as some of the msm paint but not good as maybe drudge report woods paint. Ideally his campaign and its coffers are not where you wanna be at the moment. Especially running against the machine on the other side. No two ways about that. He could right the ship but it needs to happen fast.
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Ironic since you're the one whose mind and judgment is clouded by the Trump drug.
Visual translation of every single Chizad post:
(http://f.tqn.com/y/webtrends/1/L/J/A/-/-/y-u-no.png)
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The reason that the Hillary funding lead doesn't matter so much right now is that the big dogs haven't barked very much. When the general election is two months out and she has a 10 point lead and 25 X the Donalds war chest, then it matters.
The Kochs are a prime example, of many. Could make up the difference in a snap. I'm not so sure that they will but just saying, it's way early.
There are often a lot of big and late contributions and they hinge on probability. These aren't the types that will throw money toward lost causes.
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The reason that the Hillary funding lead doesn't matter so much right now is that the big dogs haven't barked very much. When the general election is two months out and she has a 10 point lead and 25 X the Donalds war chest, then it matters.
The Kochs are a prime example, of many. Could make up the difference in a snap. I'm not so sure that they will but just saying, it's way early.
There are often a lot of big and late contributions and they hinge on probability. These aren't the types that will throw money toward lost causes.
Lost momentum right now due to lack of funds/lack of spending is going to be disastrous.
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Lost momentum right now due to lack of funds/lack of spending is going to be disastrous.
o.k. thanks.
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Listen to him. He's pre-pubescent.
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I just cannot believe anyone still thinks this guy is representing your interests.
HE IS USING YOUR CAMPAIGN FUNDS TO PAD HIS AND HIS FAMILY'S PERSONAL WEALTH AND VIRTUALLY NOTHING ELSE.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/06/21/donald-trump-firms-family-receive-1-million-may/86176506/
And guess who is taking over his campaign now that he fired Lewandowski?
https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/745307333325099008
NBC reporting that the Trump family is now "fully in charge" of the Trump campaign.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong there?
He clearly lied about how rich he is and how he is gonna fund his own campaign. Instead he bled ignorant suckers from their money. Just like Trump University.
He has historically low favorability ratings, is tanking in the polls, flip-flopping all over the map (usually landing on either some left-authoritarian stance or his cartoonishly fascist idea of a rightwing one), is stealing from his own campaign, constantly saying asinine idiotic shit, and is making complete buffoons out of anyone who ever considered themselves a Republican or right wing at all.
IF he was intentionally trying to tank the Republican party beyond repair, what the fuck would he do differently?
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I just cannot believe anyone still thinks this guy is representing your interests.
HE IS USING YOUR CAMPAIGN FUNDS TO PAD HIS AND HIS FAMILY'S PERSONAL WEALTH AND VIRTUALLY NOTHING ELSE.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/06/21/donald-trump-firms-family-receive-1-million-may/86176506/
And guess who is taking over his campaign now that he fired Lewandowski?
https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/745307333325099008
What could POSSIBLY go wrong there?
He clearly lied about how rich he is and how he is gonna fund his own campaign. Instead he bled ignorant suckers from their money. Just like Trump University.
He has historically low favorability ratings, is tanking in the polls, flip-flopping all over the map (usually landing on either some left-authoritarian stance or his cartoonishly fascist idea of a rightwing one), is stealing from his own campaign, constantly saying asinine idiotic shit, and is making complete buffoons out of anyone who ever considered themselves a Republican or right wing at all.
IF he was intentionally trying to tank the Republican party beyond repair, what the fuck would he do differently?
I don't really disagree with you but do you think Hildabeast is not lining her pockets as well? This is one of the primary reasons for the shit show we have right now.
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I don't think he's tanking the party or a shill for Hill, but he's certainly running an awful campaign. Not really a surprise though. He built a kingdom on Twitter sand.
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You know how the whole schtick of Borat was playing a buffoonish idiotic character that actually made everyone around him look like even bigger idiots and more awful for taking him seriously?
Trump is Borat. His supporters are those not in on the joke.
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Your hysterics are from his enemies (of which there are many).
It has been said from the beginning that he borrowed money from his own companies to pay for the campaign. Now he's paying them back. You guys are bitching that he's paying his bills, but because his companies own the note, its now a bad thing. In the end, it is still his money, but this way he can use campaign funds to pay himself back. Actually it is good business sense. (at least its not middle east money)
His campaign is not in the shitter. He is changing gears to go after hitlary. Within the next 4 weeks, we will see if it was the smart thing to do.
All of you anti GOP people jump on every little thing while ignoring the hildebeast and her leftist corrupt machine. Its actually fun to watch. Kaos' image was spot on!.
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You know how the whole schtick of Borat was playing a buffoonish idiotic character that actually made everyone around him look like even bigger idiots and more awful for taking him seriously?
Trump is Borat. His supporters are those not in on the joke.
The joke is watching you blow a fuse daily.
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All of you anti GOP people jump on every little thing while ignoring the hildebeast and her leftist corrupt machine. Its actually fun to watch. Kaos' image was spot on!.
Wait, I thought you were anti-GOP.
Keep who you think the MORANS are straight.
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Wait, I thought you were anti-GOP.
Keep who you think the MORANS are straight.
You have no clue what anyone thinks. You are so busy hating Trump you cannot even read.
Everyone voting for Trump has said they are voting against hitlary. And that if you are not voting GOP, then you are voting for hitlary.
Fresh water is cheap in this country. Use it to wash some of that sand out...
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Lost momentum right now due to lack of funds/lack of spending is going to be disastrous.
Bingo. And I'm not sure if they are behind the 8 ball so much that even campaign wiz Manafort can turn it around.
For the record, the kochs are largely staying out of this one. And putting more into the congressional races. Donald has very few big donors lined up.
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I don't really disagree with you but do you think Hildabeast is not lining her pockets as well? This is one of the primary reasons for the shit show we have right now.
And this ^^ it comes down to which you think is worse. Or are voting AGAINST. That's what this election has become.
If the parties had chosen Sanders and Cruz you would have at least gotten two legit and polarizing choices to pick from, not against. But hey...lyin Ted errrrbody!
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His campaign is not in the shootter. He is changing gears to go after hitlary. Within the next 4 weeks, we will see if it was the smart thing to do.
Shouldn't he have changed gears the day Lyin' Ted dropped out of the race?
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Shouldn't he have changed gears the day Lyin' Ted dropped out of the race?
He's pacing himself.
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I just cannot believe anyone still thinks this guy is representing your interests.
HE IS USING YOUR CAMPAIGN FUNDS TO PAD HIS AND HIS FAMILY'S PERSONAL WEALTH AND VIRTUALLY NOTHING ELSE.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/06/21/donald-trump-firms-family-receive-1-million-may/86176506/
And guess who is taking over his campaign now that he fired Lewandowski?
https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/745307333325099008
What could POSSIBLY go wrong there?
He clearly lied about how rich he is and how he is gonna fund his own campaign. Instead he bled ignorant suckers from their money. Just like Trump University.
He has historically low favorability ratings, is tanking in the polls, flip-flopping all over the map (usually landing on either some left-authoritarian stance or his cartoonishly fascist idea of a rightwing one), is stealing from his own campaign, constantly saying asinine idiotic shit, and is making complete buffoons out of anyone who ever considered themselves a Republican or right wing at all.
IF he was intentionally trying to tank the Republican party beyond repair, what the fuck would he do differently?
The fifth "trash Trump" piece from USA Today in the last two weeks or so.
Maybe one day one of them will actually mean something.
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So, if I understand this conspiracy correctly, Trump was in the bag for Hillary the whole time and his intention was to get her elected. And Trump has put all of the money that he will get, since there aren't any big contributions left that will be made to his campaign, according to x information--into his own companies.
Now that he's the last man standing, I guess he's just still in it to try to siphon votes away from Sanders.
The man is a genius! I guess he just needs to hope that he doesn't by some ill-fated chance get elected. Then, his whole plan will be foiled.
Damn! Why couldn't I see this? I feel so duped.
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You have no clue what anyone thinks. You are so busy hating Trump you cannot even read.
Everyone voting for Trump has said they are voting against hitlary. And that if you are not voting GOP, then you are voting for hitlary.
Fresh water is cheap in this country. Use it to wash some of that sand out...
OIC.
The GOP destroyed themselves. You can only lie to the people so much, and then they catch on.
Those like you have allowed the establishment to continue unabated for years, you helped create a Trump.
Because Cruz has been there, he is considered part of the establishment by many.
And I said the PERCEPTION is that Cruz is part of the establishment SINCE he does hold office.
So YES, If you support Cruz while poo-pooing Trump, you will be perceived as supporting the establishment.
Silly little man, they are seeing the voice of the people strike out against the establishment.
It seems the powers that be are very scared of the people. The republican party has had a long time to clean house. They did not. Now we have Trump. He is a creation of the GOP's failure. Bringing Romney out now is a bit pathetic. And embarrassing for the GOP leadership.
This is not counting your posts about how the meddlin' GOP done trite to steal the 'lection frm Trump!!! Or the tons of times you nodded your head and agreed with dozens of others in this thread taking the same anti-GOP stance.
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Trump apparently wants to launch his own Al Jazeera for his Goebbels style propaganda.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/donald-trump-tv-network
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Yet you ignore the posts about now that Trump is the GOP candidate, it's time to get behind the GOP.
And none of those things made me anti GOP. U was just stating the establishment GOP guys were getting what they deserved.
You are still like a bitchy wife. I can't believe you wasted your time getting those posts. (Yet selectively)
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I'm confused.
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Trump apparently wants to launch his own Al Jazeera for his Goebbels style propaganda.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/donald-trump-tv-network
Well, Hillary has:
CBS
NBC
CBS
CNN
MSNBC
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I'm confused.
Which is the exact point of the current state of politics.
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So, if I understand this conspiracy correctly, Trump was in the bag for Hillary the whole time and his intention was to get her elected. And Trump has put all of the money that he will get, since there aren't any big contributions left that will be made to his campaign, according to x information--into his own companies.
Now that he's the last man standing, I guess he's just still in it to try to siphon votes away from Sanders.
The man is a genius! I guess he just needs to hope that he doesn't by some ill-fated chance get elected. Then, his whole plan will be foiled.
Damn! Why couldn't I see this? I feel so duped.
You just failed miserably at satire.
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You are still like a bitchy wife. I can't believe you wasted your time getting those posts. (Yet selectively)
(Flagrant lie about past positions in the thread)
(Quote posts proving you lied that are easily searchable)
"OMG I can't believe you wasted so much time to prove I'm a liar!!!"
That's my favorite line of argument.
I used to let this type of bullshit go for too long until I realized apparently most the board's memories are short enough to believe the revisionist history from certain people of either my past positions, or theirs.
Sad!
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(Flagrant lie about past positions in the thread)
(Quote posts proving you lied that are easily searchable)
"OMG I can't believe you wasted so much time to prove I'm a liar!!!"
That's my favorite line of argument.
I used to let this type of bullshit go for too long until I realized apparently most the board's memories are short enough to believe the revisionist history from certain people of either my past positions, or theirs.
Sad!
Does your husband get annoyed at this action also?
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(Flagrant lie about past positions in the thread)
(Quote posts proving you lied that are easily searchable)
"OMG I can't believe you wasted so much time to prove I'm a liar!!!"
That's my favorite line of argument.
I used to let this type of bullshit go for too long until I realized apparently most the board's memories are short enough to believe the revisionist history from certain people of either my past positions, or theirs.
Sad!
You've got to stop calling people liars.
The comment is, in itself, a lie. And it's unseemly. Stop it.
You care, like, a billion times more about this "people are lying about me" than anybody on here. Trust me, I know. I used to let shit like this get to me. You've got to let it go. Even if you "win" the discussion, guess what? You don't actually win anything. There's no trophy or certificate. Nobody is going to step back and say, "My GOD, what a marvelous point. Chizad has unmasked CCTAU as a liar! We must shun him, banish the liar from our midst!!"
It's just not worth it. Have the discussion, don't get worked up about it (win or lose), take your medicine when it's warranted (and there have been heaping doses delivered in this thread on occasion) and then go do something productive.
"Neener, Neener, you LIED!" with an ass bucket of cut and pasted comments isn't it.
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You just failed miserably at satire.
ok. Eat me.
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ok. Eat me.
Once again, not satire.
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You've got to stop calling people liars.
Why? If the accused is demonstrably misrepresenting facts, then why not call them out?
It's just not worth it. Have the discussion, don't get worked up about it (win or lose), take your medicine when it's warranted (and there have been heaping doses delivered in this thread on occasion) and then go do something productive.
I think (don't want to speak for him) that Chad is working from a basic set of debating "rules": cite your facts and acknowledge when you misstep.
The complete inability of most of his debate foils in this forum to adhere to these simple (and pretty universal) guidelines is the source of contention.
I don't think Chad declares the "win" when he points out past inconsistencies in a poster's positions, he's just trying to get the debate/discussion back on track and/or break through some pretty obvious cognitive dissonance.
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Going back to the Trump campaign finance topic, good read from the uber left leaning foxnews and howie kurtz. I think this is a "right down the middle" article. Not chicken little but not sugar coating it either:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/22/media-freakout-over-trumps-poor-fundraising-how-bad-is-problem.html
There is probably some cause for concern. Just not to the level of what the New York Times would want people to believe. Trump is behind the 8 ball here and a lot of that is the inexperience of him and his former campaign mgr. Again, it may be something Manafort will fix. But the next month will be critical for him.
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Why? If the accused is demonstrably misrepresenting facts, then why not call them out?
I think (don't want to speak for him) that Chad is working from a basic set of debating "rules": cite your facts and acknowledge when you misstep.
The complete inability of most of his debate foils in this forum to adhere to these simple (and pretty universal) guidelines is the source of contention.
I don't think Chad declares the "win" when he points out past inconsistencies in a poster's positions, he's just trying to get the debate/discussion back on track and/or break through some pretty obvious cognitive dissonance.
Thanks. I'd hate to have had to "waste time" to type that.
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Going back to the Trump campaign finance topic, good read from the uber left leaning foxnews and howie kurtz. I think this is a "right down the middle" article. Not chicken little but not sugar coating it either:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/22/media-freakout-over-trumps-poor-fundraising-how-bad-is-problem.html
There is probably some cause for concern. Just not to the level of what the New York Times would want people to believe. Trump is behind the 8 ball here and a lot of that is the inexperience of him and his former campaign mgr. Again, it may be something Manafort will fix. But the next month will be critical for him.
The problem is that the Clinton's are a machine. They know how to play the political game.
I feel that Trump could actually do well if someone would tell him to stick to his issues (Immigration, gun control, economy) and stop the petty bullshit that Clinton is going to trap him in. The Clinton machine is too good at the political game and will bury Trump if he continues what has happened the last month or so.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284281-trump-questions-clintons-religion
Trump questions Clinton’s religion
By Jonathan Easley
Donald Trump questioned Hillary Clinton’s commitment to her Christian faith on Tuesday, saying that little is known about her spiritual life even though she’s been in the public eye for decades.
Speaking to a group of top social conservative evangelical Christian leaders at a gathering in New York City, Trump said, “we don't know anything about Hillary in terms of religion.â€
“Now, she's been in the public eye for years and years, and yet there's no — there's nothing out there,†Trump said. “There's like nothing out there. It's going to be an extension of Obama but it's going to be worse, because with Obama you had your guard up. With Hillary you don't, and it's going to be worse.â€
The meeting was closed to the press but E.W. Webb, a faith leader on hand for the event, posted video of the remarks.
Clinton does not speak frequently about being a Methodist, but she has opened up about it on several occasions on the campaign trail this year.
Trump on Tuesday also said that while it’s important to pray for everyone, that those one hand shouldn’t be “politically correct†by praying for the nation’s leaders who are “selling the evangelicals down the tubes.â€
“People were saying, some of the people were saying, 'Let's pray for our leaders,'†Trump said.
“I said, 'Well, you can pray for your leaders' — and I agree with that, pray for everyone — but what you really have to do is pray to get everybody out to vote for one specific person.
“And we can't be, again, politically correct and say we pray for all of our leaders, because all of your leaders are selling Christianity down the tubes, selling the evangelicals down the tubes,†Trump said. “And it's a very, very, very, very bad thing that's happening.â€
Not sure what the hell those last four paragraphs were supposed to mean.
So I guess Hillary's a secret Moozlim now too? I bet CCTAU even has a photoshopped meme to prove it.
Let me google that for you:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hillary+clinton+methodist&tbm=vid
There are literally hundreds of thousands of hours of her speaking about her Methodist faith for you to choose from.
Meanwhile, here's what we know about Trump's religion, despite being in the public eye even longer than Hillary.
http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2016/06/22/heres-donald-trump-said-jesus-playboy-mag-jerry-falwell-posed-front/
From 1990:
PB: How large a role does pure ego play in your deal making and enjoyment of publicity?
DT: Every successful person has a very large ego.
PB: Every successful person? Mother Teresa? Jesus Christ?
DT: Far greater egos than you will ever understand.
From 2016:
"I am not sure I have," Trump said when asked if he'd ever asked God for forgiveness. "I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don't think so," he said. "I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't."
But I guess me expecting any degree of honesty out of Trump is just me saying "Neener, Neener, you LIED!"
:facepalm:
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Why? If the accused is demonstrably misrepresenting facts, then why not call them out?
I think (don't want to speak for him) that Chad is working from a basic set of debating "rules": cite your facts and acknowledge when you misstep.
The complete inability of most of his debate foils in this forum to adhere to these simple (and pretty universal) guidelines is the source of contention.
I don't think Chad declares the "win" when he points out past inconsistencies in a poster's positions, he's just trying to get the debate/discussion back on track and/or break through some pretty obvious cognitive dissonance.
So...... Neener, neener, neener then.
Got it.
If youclaim Chizad is dispassionately "debating" and maintaining the high standards of civil discourse you're either trolling yourself or in a delusional fuge state.
But carry on, wayward son. There will be no peace when you are done.
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But I guess me expecting any degree of honesty out of Trump is just me saying "Neener, Neener, you LIED!"
^^^^
FINALLY gets it.
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So...... Neener, neener, neener then.
Got it.
If youclaim Chizad is dispassionately "debating" and maintaining the high standards of civil discourse you're either trolling yourself or in a delusional fuge state.
But carry on, wayward son. There will be no peace when you are done.
So...you're acknowledging it is impossible to make your points honestly and lying is just to be expected in this discussion?
Got it.
And if you think I'm just hurling insults while you are "dispationately debating" you are a lying liar who lies. But I guess we established that.
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So let me get the straight.
After 24 pages here is the summary
1. Chizad and Wes are not going to vote for Trump
2. Kaos and CCTAU are not going to vote for Hillary (or Johnson)
pretty sure that about sums it up
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So let me get the straight.
After 24 pages here is the summary
1. Chizad and Wes are not going to vote for Trump
2. Kaos and CCTAU are not going to vote for Hillary (or Johnson)
pretty sure that about sums it up
I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to shriek "Liar!!1!" or say "fuck you."
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I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to shriek "Liar!!1!" or say "fuck you."
You would do that.
I would acknowledge that statement as being grounded in reality unlike 90% of your posts.
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So...you're acknowledging it is impossible to make your points honestly and lying is just to be expected in this discussion?
Got it.
And if you think I'm just hurling insults while you are "dispationately debating" you are a lying liar who lies. But I guess we established that.
(http://www.floolish.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fire-extinguisher.jpg)
For your pants.
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You would do that.
I would acknowledge that statement as being grounded in reality unlike 90% of your posts.
(http://www.myquotesclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/You-dropped-this-it-s-your-sense-of-humor.jpg)
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(http://www.myquotesclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/You-dropped-this-it-s-your-sense-of-humor.jpg)
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The problem is that the Clinton's are a machine. They know how to play the political game.
I feel that Trump could actually do well if someone would tell him to stick to his issues (Immigration, gun control, economy) and stop the petty bullshit that Clinton is going to trap him in. The Clinton machine is too good at the political game and will bury Trump if he continues what has happened the last month or so.
Agree. Totally.
And I've read that his kids know this and pushed for the change in leadership from lewandowski to manafort this week. Picking a fight with a judge may be a big deal to him personally but there was nothing to gain there. He needs to keep hammering Hillary, her character, her past, immigration, etc as you said. She is also managing to win the narrative on who the big money corporate candidate is even though she has 40 million more in the bank that begs to differ. That's a fail on the part of the trump campaign. And again, I think his kids sensed this and took action thus the change.
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So let me get the straight.
After 24 pages here is the summary
1. Chizad and Wes are not going to vote for Trump
2. Kaos and CCTAU are not going to vote for Hillary (or Johnson)
pretty sure that about sums it up
If I have to choose, I would like to be added to group 2. Unless we have to all be naked. In that case, group 1. I would have a better chance of getting lucky. Or, just taking it from them.
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I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to shriek "Liar!!1!" or say "fuck you."
I thought you were trying to be kinder and gentler. There is no need for name calling or curse words.
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She is also managing to win the narrative on who the big money corporate candidate is even though she has 40 million more in the bank that begs to differ. That's a fail on the part of the trump campaign. And again, I think his kids sensed this and took action thus the change.
HE is the one that won't shut up about how filthy rich he is. That's apparently part of his appeal. That's what he sold his voters on.
Actually Hillary is calling him out for NOT being as rich as he constantly says he is.
http://fortune.com/2016/06/21/hillary-clinton-trump-rich/
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Thanks. I'd hate to have had to "waste time" to type that.
You wouldn't. You would just quote it...
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Agree. Totally.
And I've read that his kids know this and pushed for the change in leadership from lewandowski to manafort this week. Picking a fight with a judge may be a big deal to him personally but there was nothing to gain there. He needs to keep hammering Hillary, her character, her past, immigration, etc as you said. She is also managing to win the narrative on who the big money corporate candidate is even though she has 40 million more in the bank that begs to differ. That's a fail on the part of the trump campaign. And again, I think his kids sensed this and took action thus the change.
He has a chance to win the election, but I fully expect the Republicans at the convention to truly fuck this up and if he comes out as the nominee I fully expect him to say something so stupid that he turns away a lot of voters. It will most likely be the end of republicans and its base as we know it. Maybe that will be a good thing. As someone said earlier the "Clintons" are a political machine. They know this game.
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The Trump Effect:
http://www.wsmv.com/story/32277324/make-america-white-again-campaign-sign-causing-controversy-in-polk-co
(http://vlr.tynt.com/?format=txt&key=284d869ffe43382ebe88a02cabb697ab&u=http%3A%2F%2FWRCB.images.worldnow.com%2Fimages%2F10830104_G.jpg&subId=cRoUe6w5Kr5ktzacwqm_6r&txt=%C2%A0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsmv.com%2Fstory%2F32277324%2Fmake-america-white-again-campaign-sign-causing-controversy-in-polk-co&ref=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FjjM4eQwgF5&title=%22Make%20America%20White%20Again%22%20campaign%20sign%20causing%20controversy%20in%20-%20WSMV%20Channel%204)
I know two people in this thread who will no doubt full-throatedly endorse this and call me a beta libruhl cuck faggot for finding any problem with it.
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The Trump Effect:
http://www.wsmv.com/story/32277324/make-america-white-again-campaign-sign-causing-controversy-in-polk-co
(http://vlr.tynt.com/?format=txt&key=284d869ffe43382ebe88a02cabb697ab&u=http%3A%2F%2FWRCB.images.worldnow.com%2Fimages%2F10830104_G.jpg&subId=cRoUe6w5Kr5ktzacwqm_6r&txt=%C2%A0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsmv.com%2Fstory%2F32277324%2Fmake-america-white-again-campaign-sign-causing-controversy-in-polk-co&ref=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FjjM4eQwgF5&title=%22Make%20America%20White%20Again%22%20campaign%20sign%20causing%20controversy%20in%20-%20WSMV%20Channel%204)
I know two people in this thread who will no doubt full-throatedly endorse this and call me a beta libruhl cuck faggot for finding any problem with it.
It is stupid, but would it be news if it was a "Black lives matter billboard"?
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It is stupid, but would it be news if it was a "Black lives matter billboard"?
I'm not gonna be forced to defend Black Lives Matter, there's plenty there I don't like.
BUT, saying "(Race)'s Lives Matter" is not equivalent to "Make America (This Race) Again".
Surely you see the difference...
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I'm not gonna be forced to defend Black Lives Matter, there's plenty there I don't like.
BUT, saying "(Race)'s Lives Matter" is not equivalent to "Make America (This Race) Again".
Surely you see the difference...
Yes, and don't call me Shirley.
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I'm not gonna be forced to defend Black Lives Matter, there's plenty there I don't like.
BUT, saying "(Race)'s Lives Matter" is not equivalent to "Make America (This Race) Again".
Surely you see the difference...
I do, I said it was stupid. But if this is what this guy believes, then so be it. Let the voters in that community decide. Does he not have the right to free speech, oh wait, no white people don't have that. I am just tired of the media double standard and the folks who follow like sheep.
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Can I get a White Power up in here?!!!
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I do, I said it was stupid. But if this is what this guy believes, then so be it. Let the voters in that community decide. Does he not have the right to free speech, oh wait, no white people don't have that. I am just tired of the media double standard and the folks who follow like sheep.
Beta males full of white guilt do not allow white folks to have freedom of speech any longer.
I find the sign stupid, but it is his right.
I find jizad's position stupid, but I respect his daddy's daughter's right to have it!
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HE is the one that won't shut up about how filthy rich he is. That's apparently part of his appeal. That's what he sold his voters on.
Actually Hillary is calling him out for NOT being as rich as he constantly says he is.
http://fortune.com/2016/06/21/hillary-clinton-trump-rich/
I don't disagree.
But I think we're talking about two different things here.
Worth vs how much corporations own you.
Bernie railed on her with this one too. But Hillary has more bank and corporate money than anyone else that has ran in this election. She's practically owned by the banks. But she has created the perception that trump is the person who is bought by banks and donors. And that's mainly his fault. He didn't effectively combat that. He was too busy picking fights with a judge, Apple and not articulating his gun stance well. And I think a lot of that has to do with his drop in the polls and the ouster of Mr. I Didn't Assault Michelle Fields.
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He has a chance to win the election, but I fully expect the Republicans at the convention to truly fuck this up and if he comes out as the nominee I fully expect him to say something so stupid that he turns away a lot of voters. It will most likely be the end of republicans and its base as we know it. Maybe that will be a good thing. As someone said earlier the "Clintons" are a political machine. They know this game.
Which is why I think there were several others on the GOP side better equipped and more seasoned to fight this battle in the general.
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I don't disagree.
But I think we're talking about two different things here.
Worth vs how much corporations own you.
Bernie railed on her with this one too. But Hillary has more bank and corporate money than anyone else that has ran in this election. She's practically owned by the banks. But she has created the perception that trump is the person who is bought by banks and donors. And that's mainly his fault. He didn't effectively combat that. He was too busy picking fights with a judge, Apple and not articulating his gun stance well. And I think a lot of that has to do with his drop in the polls and the ouster of Mr. I Didn't Assault Michelle Fields.
I also agree with you, except that I don't think Trump has any interest in painting her exorbitant finances in a negative light, because that's his whole schtick. He's made a point to make it part of his appeal, to the point that he is apparently grossly exaggerating it.
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I also agree with you, except that I don't think Trump has any interest in painting her exorbitant finances in a negative light, because that's his whole schtick. He's made a point to make it part of his appeal, to the point that he is apparently grossly exaggerating it.
Actually his appeal is that HE EARNED HIS IN BUSINESS. SHE WHORED HERSELF OUT IN POLITICS.
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Actually his appeal is that HE EARNED HIS IN BUSINESS. SHE WHORED HERSELF OUT IN POLITICS.
True, he has also failed in business, which from experience I (and hopefully him) learned more from a business failure that my wife and I had than any job I ever had.
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True, he has also failed in business, which from experience I (and hopefully him) learned more from a business failure that my wife and I had than any job I ever had.
You say that, but out of over 500 companies, he has had four fail. That is not a bad percentage.
And he keeps trying to create more. It irritates me when people want to penalize him for the small number of failed companies. He is out there creating jobs and trying new things. NOBODY in the race this time has come close to that.
He is not perfect, but he damn sure is a businessman. And we need someone who gets it. Everything else can take second place to the economy.
Hitlary damn sure has no idea of how money is earned. Hers has been the product of political tie-ins.
And Gary's johnson is not big enough to matter...
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You say that, but out of over 500 companies, he has had four fail. That is not a bad percentage.
And he keeps trying to create more. It irritates me when people want to penalize him for the small number of failed companies. He is out there creating jobs and trying new things. NOBODY in the race this time has come close to that.
He is not perfect, but he damn sure is a businessman. And we need someone who gets it. Everything else can take second place to the economy.
Hitlary damn sure has no idea of how money is earned. Hers has been the product of political tie-ins.
And Gary's johnson is not big enough to matter...
I am sure his wife doesn't appreciate you saying that.
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The Trump Effect:
http://www.wsmv.com/story/32277324/make-america-white-again-campaign-sign-causing-controversy-in-polk-co
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I know two people in this thread who will no doubt full-throatedly endorse this and call me a beta libruhl cuck faggot for finding any problem with it.
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Zero to do with Trump.
Stop drinking before 5 pm. Your organs will thank you.
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Zero to do with Trump.
Stop drinking before 5 pm. Your organs will thank you.
Zero to do with Trump. "Make America ____ Again".
Ok, dude.
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Zero to do with Trump. "Make America ____ Again".
Ok, dude.
Yes, because Donald Trump personally went out and painted that sign himself.
:taunt:
He has no more control over that than you have over what Chizad! says.
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I also agree with you, except that I don't think Trump has any interest in painting her exorbitant finances in a negative light, because that's his whole schtick. He's made a point to make it part of his appeal, to the point that he is apparently grossly exaggerating it.
Which is why he paints himself as not being bought. Or not able to be bought. She is winning the narrative that he is the one bought by the banks. He doesn't mind being rich but also makes it a point to say that he's not beholden to big banks and their donations. Except the last two weeks. She has murdered him on this while he was off picking petty battles. Now he's behind the 8 ball. Curious to see if he digs out. Today's speech was supposed to be a start. So we will see.
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Which is why he paints himself as not being bought. Or not able to be bought. She is winning the narrative that he is the one bought by the banks. He doesn't mind being rich but also makes it a point to say that he's not beholden to big banks and their donations. Except the last two weeks. She has murdered him on this while he was off picking petty battles. Now he's behind the 8 ball. Curious to see if he digs out. Today's speech was supposed to be a start. So we will see.
It's a long, long time until November.
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Yes, because Donald Trump personally went out and painted that sign himself.
:taunt:
He has no more control over that than you have over what Chizad! says.
AUChizad! was banned from what I can gather. It seems someone told the teacher on him.
You know what happens to snitches in prison and on the streets.
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You say that, but out of over 500 companies, he has had four fail. That is not a bad percentage.
And he keeps trying to create more. It irritates me when people want to penalize him for the small number of failed companies. He is out there creating jobs and trying new things. NOBODY in the race this time has come close to that.
He is not perfect, but he damn sure is a businessman. And we need someone who gets it. Everything else can take second place to the economy.
Hitlary damn sure has no idea of how money is earned. Hers has been the product of political tie-ins.
And Gary's johnson is not big enough to matter...
Could it be that this is more about Schtick envy than the love of Gary's johnson?
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It's a long, long time until November.
Thank god. Because he is getting shelled right now...
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It's a long, long time until November.
It is
And as even chad acknowledged on an earlier page, it's wise to not try and apply traditional wisdom to trump.
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*yawn*
I woke up this morning, looked out the window and saw that Donald Trump still wasn't Hillary.
Carry on.
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The Beta male Bitchslap!
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=25174
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Not to worry. All polls that aren't good for the Donald are conspiratorial lies designed by the "establishment" to brainwash the sheeple amirite.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-new-poll-support-for-trump-plunges-giving-clinton-a-double-digit-lead/2016/06/25/0565bef6-3a31-11e6-a254-2b336e293a3c_story.html
In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clinton a double-digit lead
Critics question Trump's qualifications
By Scott Clement and Philip Rucker June 26 at 9:00 AM
Support for Donald Trump has plunged as he has alienated fellow Republicans and large majorities of voters overall in the course of a month of self-inflicted controversies, propelling Democrat Hillary Clinton to a double-digit lead nationally in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
The survey finds sweeping unease with the presumptive Republican nominee’s candidacy — from his incendiary rhetoric and values to his handling of both terrorism and his own business — foreshadowing that the November election could be a referendum on Trump more than anything else.
Roughly two in three Americans say they think Trump is unqualified to lead the nation; are anxious about the idea of him as president; believe his comments about women, minorities and Muslims show an unfair bias; and see his attacks on a federal judge because of his Mexican American heritage as racist.
A slimmer majority say they disapprove of the way Clinton has handled questions about her use of a personal email server while she was secretary of state, and half of Americans are anxious about the prospect of a Clinton presidency, underscoring the historic unpopularity of the two major-party candidates.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/06/26/National-Politics/Graphics/w-poll-0626-1-v2.jpg?uuid=PRMm-juiEeaeFkzwGkHeyw)
In fact, so strong is many Americans’ opposition to Clinton and desire for a change in Washington that even some registering their disapproval of Trump say that as of now they feel compelled to vote for him.
Nevertheless, in a head-to-head general election matchup, Clinton leads Trump 51 percent to 39 percent among registered voters nationwide, the poll found. This is Clinton’s largest lead in Post-ABC polling since last fall and a dramatic reversal from last month’s survey, which found the race nearly even, with Trump at 46 percent and Clinton at 44 percent.
As the hard-fought general election gets underway, Trump’s political standing is on dangerous ground. Fifty-six percent of the public at large say the celebrity business mogul stands against their beliefs, while 64 percent say he does not have the necessary credentials to be president. Fifty-six percent feel strongly that he is unqualified.
Nearly one-third of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say Trump is unqualified for office, and 18 percent say he does not represent their beliefs, exposing deep fissures in the GOP base as Trump struggles to unite conservatives going into next month’s national convention in Cleveland.
Then there are the Americans who plan to vote for him despite their disapproval. For instance, 18 percent of people who found Trump’s comments about the judge racist, 15 percent of those who think his comments generally are biased against women, minorities or Muslims, and 11 percent of those who think he is unqualified say they support Trump over Clinton.
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Not to worry. All polls that aren't good for the Donald are conspiratorial lies designed by the "establishment" to brainwash the sheeple amirite.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-new-poll-support-for-trump-plunges-giving-clinton-a-double-digit-lead/2016/06/25/0565bef6-3a31-11e6-a254-2b336e293a3c_story.html
Ok. The insults are about to start.
You're an idiot. A knee jerk reactionary.
If you're posting this shit so you can come back in November and go "neener, neener, I told you so" you're wasting your time.
Everybody acknowledges that Trump has an uphill climb. That's what you get when facing an opponent with no morals or scruples or ethics. When you're running for office for the first time against someone who's never held any other job but political whore.
But people support him because he talks like an outsider. Because he hasn't been in politics all his life. Because he walks and acts like a rugged individualist. The kind of brash, cocky fucker who built this mommy partry.
Me? I looked at the map. And I've told you this 1800 times but your thick fucking baby skull won't let it penetrate. He was the only candidate. -- on either side of the aisle -- that had any chance of knocking her off in Florida, Pennsylvania, New York and Ohio. To beat her you're going to need two or three of those. So that cinched it for me.
So you can keep posting your whiny "trump bad" links, videos or what the fuck ever. Just do so knowing you wasted that much of your life looking that shit up.
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Ok. The insults are about to start.
You're an idiot. A knee jerk reactionary.
If you're posting this shit so you can come back in November and go "neener, neener, I told you so" you're wasting your time.
Everybody acknowledges that Trump has an uphill climb. That's what you get when facing an opponent with no morals or scruples or ethics. When you're running for office for the first time against someone who's never held any other job but political whore.
But people support him because he talks like an outsider. Because he hasn't been in politics all his life. Because he walks and acts like a rugged individualist. The kind of brash, cocky fucker who built this mommy partry.
Me? I looked at the map. And I've told you this 1800 times but your thick fucking baby skull won't let it penetrate. He was the only candidate. -- on either side of the aisle -- that had any chance of knocking her off in Florida, Pennsylvania, New York and Ohio. To beat her you're going to need two or three of those. So that cinched it for me.
So you can keep posting your whiny "trump bad" links, videos or what the fuck ever. Just do so knowing you wasted that much of your life looking that shit up.
"You're wasting your life looking this shit up" is my favorite fallacy from your tiny, limited arsenal.
Because in your mind, there's no way to know what's actually going on in the news without actively seeking out FACTS and STATISTICS that support my biased worldview.
Sad!
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"You're wasting your life looking this shit up" is my favorite fallacy from your tiny, limited arsenal.
Because in your mind, there's no way to know what's actually going on in the news without actively seeking out FACTS and STATISTICS that support my biased worldview.
Sad!
I'm not going to get into an arsenal messuring contest. But you don't need to worry about my rockets. Or my firepower.
I regret the insults already. But it's difficult. You're so arrogantly cocksure that you're the only sane and logical person here. That your sainted opinion is the only one blessed by the Virgin Cindy and Pope Peanut.
You keep your posting shit from left wing rags, shit eating comedians and the monkey cage as if it's going to change anybody's thinking. Yes. You are wasting your life. You've made up your mind. Trump sucks. So have we. Hillary sucks exponentially worse.
Alpha. Omega.
Continue if you wish. You shall only endure more fuckery if you do.
Oh. And let me add....
I've never even said you're wrong necessarily. Point being, it doesn't matter. Maybe he is behind in every poll. Maybe he says dumb shit and doesn't know Brexit from Febreeze. It doesn't matter. Her "knowing" more than he does in no way makes her less dangerous or an iota more honest. There are people in the world a lot smarter than me. Or so I've heard. Hand them the situations I've navigated in business. Let's see if they can do it better than I have. She's worse than he is in every metric that matters.
End of story. Except it won't be. You won't let it.
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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article81920737.html
Trump will win!
Donald Trump will win the 2016 presidential election.
Not “might†win. Not “could win under the following circumstances.†He’s going to win as surely as the sun rises in the east, as certainly as high tide follows low, and as definitively as Steph Curry laid waste to the Oklahoma City Thunder’s defense.
And this:
Oh, that Trump is such a thin-skinned baby! Did you see his “epic meltdown†during his news conference at Trump Tower last week? He kept berating the reporters for not doing their jobs. What a buffoon!
At least, that’s what The New York Times, The Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune and the crew on “Morning Joe†said.
What my friends in the media fail to understand is the great mass of would-be readers and viewers really, really don’t like us. They certainly don’t trust us. And so when Trump calls ABC News reporter Tom Llamas “a sleaze†and Llamas responds with pained indignation, who do you suppose wins that confrontation?
“Why am I a sleaze?†Llamas protested.
“You’re a sleaze because you know the facts and you know the facts well,†Trump replied.
Trump never apologizes and never backs down. The media may despise him, but voters despise the media more. That’s why he’s winning.
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Poke your doom and shove your gloom.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_ted_rall/donald_trump_can_easily_win_in_november
After an election season in which nothing they predicted came true -- their confidence that Donald Trump would never be the Republican nominee comes to mind -- you'd think our losing-streak corporate pundits would be reluctant to underestimate Trump's chance of winning the presidency in November.
Alas, there is no limit to the willfully oblivious hubris of the barking dogs of the political class. Despite last week's cataclysm the airwaves and opinion pages are still dominated by the smug meme that It Can't Happen Here.
Never mind that half of that It, Trump's capture of the nomination, has happened. But this is where Trump's juggernaut stops, say the center-right prognosticators. Polls show him losing to Hillary Clinton by 14 percent -- er, now it's 2 percent. But still.
Trump's disapproval ratings are as big as his ego. Women hate the guy. So do Latinos; Republicans can't win without them. Trump, they assure, has a ceiling: 45 percent. No way no how will more than 45 percent of Americans vote for him. (Remember when the same folks told us his ceiling was 30 percent -- of Republicans?) He's a guaranteed loosah.
If Hillary Clinton prevails over Bernie Sanders and the Department of Justice to become the Democratic standard-bearer, she'll be welcomed as a liberator against Trump, Democratic leaders say. Most GOP insiders say/fear the same thing: she'll win by a landslide.
I wouldn't be so sure.
There are plenty of good reasons to believe that Trump will defeat the former secretary of state.
Before we list them, please bear in mind something no one talks about: what an amazing candidate Trump has proven to be. Not only does Trump have no political experience, this is his first run for president, or for any elected office. For a novice to win a major party nomination on his time out, spending hardly any of his own money, is a triumph, a trifecta without historical precedent. (True, there was Eisenhower. But Ike was the supreme commander of Allied forces during World War II, and president of Columbia University. Those were essentially political positions.) With Trump, we are in uncharted territory. The man is a beast.
Now for the factors that run counter to the widely accepted Hillary-is-a-shoo-in narrative.
First, Hillary is a weak candidate.
Her negatives are nearly as high as Trump's. A recent poll shows her even or losing against Trump in key battleground states: Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. The liberal base of the Democratic Party, which mostly supports Bernie Sanders, is not at all Ready for Hillary. If the Bernie or Bust movement convinces even a few percentage points worth of Dems to stay home, write in Bernie's name or vote for Jill Stein, that shortfall of support could be enough to throw the race The Donald's way. If anything, Hillary is the one with a ceiling: she's been in public life so long that it's hard to believe that anyone who doesn't like her now will find a reason to do so in the next six months. Politically, we're just getting to know Trump.
Also, Americans' hardwired historical amnesia is tailor-made for Trump.
His insane pronouncements would sink a conventional candidate. But when his racist or idiotic statements stir controversy, he doesn't apologize: he denies that he ever said them. Then he doubles down. He constantly contradicts himself, sometimes in the same speech. This drives the media crazy. But it doesn't touch Teflon Don. Thanks to Ronald Reagan and his ideological progeny, we're living at a time when we choose our own facts along with our opinions -- and no one is held accountable for their broken promises, hypocrisies or flip-flops. The past? Even when it isn't past, even in real time, the past so doesn't matter. As a conventional politician, Hillary will be forced to defend herself and her long record in public service from Trump's attacks. Because he has no such record, and the record he does have is something he'll just lie about -- and voters will be perfectly fine with it - she can't go after him the same way.
Because GOP campaigning is so much more effective, Democratic presidential candidates need to be at least 10 percent ahead of Republicans in August in order to win in November. Trump and Clinton are single digits apart, and it's only May. Just wait until the zillions of GOP attack ads do their thing.
Trump will benefit from a Republican Party that may not be as unified as they would like. But it will be unified enough to beat Hillary. Because she's unwilling to make the policy and personnel concessions necessary to bring Sanders' supporters into her fold -- $15/hour minimum wage, offer Sanders veep -- she'll never be able to recover from the bruising primaries. Her party will be the more fractured one.
Trump is also in the unique position of being positioned to attack her from both the left and the right. He'll go after her as a warmonger and a free trader and fiscally irresponsible and corrupt. As we've seen in the primaries, he has an uncanny ability to hone in on his rivals' Achilles' heels. Then he kicks them until they fall.
In the end, Hillary's biggest liability may be overconfidence. She clearly doesn't think much of Trump's intellect, his political acumen or his campaign chops. Big mistake. This guy is many things, some of them very bad. But he is not stupid. Donald Trump is one of the most formidable politicians of our lifetimes. He can win.
Bold = Boom!
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Rasmussen is as accurate and reputable as they come. This is his thing. And he has no bias. Love reading his stuff. He is the only one who said Obama would surprise Romney about a week before that election. Everyone else had Romney erroneously ahead and the Romney camp was full of hubris the last month of the election cycle because of it. Rasmussen held to his prediction and was almost dead on.
I also read that the abc news poll surveyed 14% more (I think that's the number not sure) dems than republicans for that poll. Thus more than likely putting the scientific number on the poll closer to 3-5 % in favor of Hillary.
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I need Chad to go out search and find articles that refutes Rausmussen. It's the only way I can carry on with my life. I need the hours worth of research! Dammit man!
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The Shrilary Clinton described in this book is the one I've had described to me by people who had the misfortune to deal with her on a personal or professional level.
https://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Character-Discloses-Firsthand-Experience/dp/1455568872
http://nypost.com/2016/06/25/clinton-white-house-was-a-den-of-cocaine-and-mistresses-ex-secret-service-officer/
This is the power mad, manipulative, self serving, abusive, entitled, abrasive bitch who needs to be as far away from the white house as we can keep her. She's the red queen, she's Cersi Lannister on steroids. She is raw evil.
Saw the author of this book on Hannity last night (thanks for the heads up via message). He echoed what I've been told. I found it interesting that as Hannity noted the author was booked for an interview on fox but has been rebuffed by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN....
I've heard her described as uncouth, abusive. Morally and ethically bankrupt.
I'm not one who typically tries to convince anyone to do or believe anything. I just post my opinion and you can do what you want. In this case though I'm imploring you NOT to vote for this shrew. If you can't bring yourself to vote for Trump just stay home.
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The Shrilary Clinton described in this book is the one I've had described to me by people who had the misfortune to deal with her on a personal or professional level.
https://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Character-Discloses-Firsthand-Experience/dp/1455568872
http://nypost.com/2016/06/25/clinton-white-house-was-a-den-of-cocaine-and-mistresses-ex-secret-service-officer/
This is the power mad, manipulative, self serving, abusive, entitled, abrasive bitch who needs to be as far away from the white house as we can keep her. She's the red queen, she's Cersi Lannister on steroids. She is raw evil.
Saw the author of this book on Hannity last night (thanks for the heads up via message). He echoed what I've been told. I found it interesting that as Hannity noted the author was booked for an interview on fox but has been rebuffed by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN....
I've heard her described as uncouth, abusive. Morally and ethically bankrupt.
I'm not one who typically tries to convince anyone to do or believe anything. I just post my opinion and you can do what you want. In this case though I'm imploring you NOT to vote for this shrew. If you can't bring yourself to vote for Trump just stay home.
It was a pretty powerful interview. I almost want to go buy the thing now and read it end to end. Dinesh D Souza also has a movie coming out this summer about the same thing that should be pretty good.
I truly believe this woman is as corrupt and evil as they come. More than her husband. More than bush. More than Nixon. More than any of them.
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I need Chad to go out search and find articles that refutes Rausmussen. It's the only way I can carry on with my life. I need the hours worth of research! Dammit man!
Ok.
That article Kaos posted was from 2 months ago.
This is their latest commentary.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/white_house_watch_2016/white_house_watch_clinton_44_trump_39
Rasmussen is the only poll that had them in a dead heat two weeks ago. Hillary took a 4% lead last week and the gap has continued to widen. Again, according to the one outlier poll that is "good" for Trump.
Sorry to disappoint you if you think it took hours to read the publish date, see it was outdated, and see what their latest report said.
I did like this part of the article though. Why you no bold?
Also, Americans' hardwired historical amnesia is tailor-made for Trump.
His insane pronouncements would sink a conventional candidate. But when his racist or idiotic statements stir controversy, he doesn't apologize: he denies that he ever said them. Then he doubles down. He constantly contradicts himself, sometimes in the same speech. This drives the media crazy. But it doesn't touch Teflon Don. Thanks to Ronald Reagan and his ideological progeny, we're living at a time when we choose our own facts along with our opinions -- and no one is held accountable for their broken promises, hypocrisies or flip-flops. The past? Even when it isn't past, even in real time, the past so doesn't matter. As a conventional politician, Hillary will be forced to defend herself and her long record in public service from Trump's attacks. Because he has no such record, and the record he does have is something he'll just lie about -- and voters will be perfectly fine with it - she can't go after him the same way.
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Ok.
That article Kaos posted was from 2 months ago.
This is their latest commentary.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/white_house_watch_2016/white_house_watch_clinton_44_trump_39
Rasmussen is the only poll that had them in a dead heat two weeks ago. Hillary took a 4% lead last week and the gap has continued to widen. Again, according to the one outlier poll that is "good" for Trump.
Sorry to disappoint you if you think it took hours to read the publish date, see it was outdated, and see what their latest report said.
I did like this part of the article though. Why you no bold?
You do realize that I was joking, right?
Anyone who is keeping up with the polls knows that she is leading and he is not closing the gap.
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Ok.
That article Kaos posted was from 2 months ago.
This is their latest commentary.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/white_house_watch_2016/white_house_watch_clinton_44_trump_39
Rasmussen is the only poll that had them in a dead heat two weeks ago. Hillary took a 4% lead last week and the gap has continued to widen. Again, according to the one outlier poll that is "good" for Trump.
Sorry to disappoint you if you think it took hours to read the publish date, see it was outdated, and see what their latest report said.
I did like this part of the article though. Why you no bold?
(https://49.media.tumblr.com/59052690b72cdd3242d1cca35b74570f/tumblr_n0i80wS1n81s4m325o1_500.gif)
You're being Dwight, you know.
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You can't convince me that any of the other top tier Republican candidates would not be wiping the floor with Hillary right now. We had an opportunity to put up principled conservatives and have a battle over ideas this election. We could have put up a candidate (any candidate) and they would have looked like Ward Cleaver next to Hillary. But no, the 40% majority had to vote with their feelings instead of their brains and put up the one person running who is just as unpopular as Hillary.
Short of an actual indictment I still believe she will clean Trump's clock in November. Trump doesn't have (and never had) a shot to win New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio or Florida. He's struggling to hang on to freaking Arizona and Utah, both of which are usually Republican strongholds.
Our only hope is that the delegates at the convention have the balls to throw a coup. Too bad we already know the answer.
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Short of an actual indictment I still believe she will clean Trump's clock in November.
100% agree.
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100% agree.
Same. I just don't see him winning it when he only has about 70% (Rasmussen) support of republican voters.
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You can't convince me that any of the other top tier Republican candidates would not be wiping the floor with Hillary right now. We had an opportunity to put up principled conservatives and have a battle over ideas this election. We could have put up a candidate (any candidate) and they would have looked like Ward Cleaver next to Hillary. But no, the 40% majority had to vote with their feelings instead of their brains and put up the one person running who is just as unpopular as Hillary.
Short of an actual indictment I still believe she will clean Trump's clock in November. Trump doesn't have (and never had) a shot to win New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio or Florida. He's struggling to hang on to freaking Arizona and Utah, both of which are usually Republican strongholds.
Our only hope is that the delegates at the convention have the balls to throw a coup. Too bad we already know the answer.
You're wrong.
Cruz? She would have already had him for breakfast and be picking her teeth. Rubio? Wiped her ass with him. Kashch? All the dynamic energy of a dead tree sloth. She'd abuse his sleepy ass. The corrupt whore KNOWS what to do with that type of person. Trump's unpredictability, his refusal to act like a "normal" politician and his brazen willingness to call her out are things that throw her off. His taunts will eventually pull her out of her comfort zone. He will make her look like the shrieking shrewish bitch she is.
Will it work to the point to get him elected? Time will tell.
The media is humping hard to keep trump supporters at home. Gloom and doom fraudulent polls now to discourage the momentum. Would not surprise me to see them switch to show trump with a decent lead toward November. Convince on the fence voters to stay home because he's gonna win anyway.
And it's a long way to November. Your contention that he's "struggling" to hold on to Arizona and that he can't possibly win NY, FL, PA or OH is based on what? Flawed information and wishful thinking of the left?
Bernie nearly took her down. Trump is a stronger and more dynamic candidate than the Bern.
Don't start counting bitchy chickens just yet.
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Cruz? She would have already had him for breakfast and be picking her teeth. Rubio? Wiped her ass with him. Kashch? All the dynamic energy of a dead tree sloth. She'd abuse his sleepy ass. The corrupt whore KNOWS what to do with that type of person. Trump's unpredictability, his refusal to act like a "normal" politician and his brazen willingness to call her out are things that throw her off. His taunts will eventually pull her out of her comfort zone. He will make her look like the shrieking shrewish bitch she is.
I just want to understand the mindset that thinks that a Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich, who would be DISMANTLING her right now, point for researched point, on the Benghazi/email scandals would be less effective than Trump's vague 3rd grade insults that he's "hearing things" and "we don't know her religion" and "Crooked Hillary" etc.
There is a faction of idiots who think this is a more effective way of winning the discussion. They're thankfully not the majority (yet). You can't will it to be so.
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You're wrong.
Cruz? She would have already had him for breakfast and be picking her teeth. Rubio? Wiped her ass with him. Kashch? All the dynamic energy of a dead tree sloth. She'd abuse his sleepy ass. The corrupt whore KNOWS what to do with that type of person. Trump's unpredictability, his refusal to act like a "normal" politician and his brazen willingness to call her out are things that throw her off. His taunts will eventually pull her out of her comfort zone. He will make her look like the shrieking shrewish bitch she is.
Will it work to the point to get him elected? Time will tell.
The media is humping hard to keep trump supporters at home. Gloom and doom fraudulent polls now to discourage the momentum. Would not surprise me to see them switch to show trump with a decent lead toward November. Convince on the fence voters to stay home because he's gonna win anyway.
And it's a long way to November. Your contention that he's "struggling" to hold on to Arizona and that he can't possibly win NY, FL, PA or OH is based on what? Flawed information and wishful thinking of the left?
Bernie nearly took her down. Trump is a stronger and more dynamic candidate than the Bern.
Don't start counting bitchy chickens just yet.
And this may be where we disagree a bit in the last page. I don't think for a min that Cruz or Rubio would be losing to her. Especially Rubio. Both are so much more likeable than her. And likeability is huge. They would be doing tremendously better with Hispanics. Cruz, when allowed to actually debate in the classical sense, dismantles people. The guy is a walking encyclopedia who rarely leaves an i undotted whether you agree with him or not. And he was not my first, second or even third choice. The problem with the primary is that the debates went apeshit. Rules weren't followed. It's hard to be an effective debater when the rules are abandoned and a screaming match ensues. Hillary isn't gonna do that on a stage like Trump. She will play to the crowd with her rhetoric but I truly believe Cruz or Rubio would have obliterated her and held her feet to the fire with a lot of inconvenient truths. I also liked the fact that Cruz and Rand Paul were the only two senators who had the balls to stand up and filibuster Barry's communist legislation. Rubio was there too to assist them. That shit meant something to me. They did what they said. They had convictions.
That's just my take. And I know we will disagree on that part but it's all good. I just think those two in particular would have fared very well against her. They had great poll numbers head to head. In fact I think Rubio would have been a slam dunk in a general.
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I just want to understand the mindset that thinks that a Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich, who would be DISMANTLING her right now, point for researched point, on the Benghazi/email scandals would be less effective than Trump's vague 3rd grade insults that he's "hearing things" and "we don't know her religion" and "Crooked Hillary" etc.
There is a faction of idiots who think this is a more effective way of winning the discussion. They're thankfully not the majority (yet). You can't will it to be so.
Chad. Honey.
The number of American voters in this digital sound bite, twitterized country who give two shits about "point by carefully researched point" is infinitely smaller than even your most conservative estimate.
If Cruz was so awesome at "dismantling" people why is he sitting at home while a first time candidate with admittedly inferior qualifications beat him like a runaway slave in the primaries?
When trump gets her in front of people and away from her choreographed lesbian fests, he's going to abuse her. Like he abused Rubio and Cruz.
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Chad. Honey.
The number of American voters in this digital sound bite, twitterized country who give two shits about "point by carefully researched point" is infinitely smaller than even your most conservative estimate.
If Cruz was so awesome at "dismantling" people why is he sitting at home while a first time candidate with admittedly inferior qualifications beat him like a runaway slave in the primaries?
When trump gets her in front of people and away from her choreographed lesbian fests, he's going to abuse her. Like he abused Rubio and Cruz.
Same reason Reagan got sent home in 1976. Little different but lot of similarities. Hillary is a more traditional debater. She would have played more into Cruz or rubios style. Trump was such a wildcard and so bombastic that it really neutralized any debate advantage Cruz may have held. Which really was a smart move on Trumps part to be honest. Joe Biden did very much the same thing in the 2012 debate with Paul Ryan. And that was a smart move too.
Oh and speaking of, anyone else think Biden regrets his decision not to run this year? He had to have been kicking himself at the shit fest he saw on TV. Disclaimer: Biden is an idiot. He is not fit to be president. But his likeability as compared to Hillarys would have propelled him to the nomination easily.
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And it's a long way to November. Your contention that he's "struggling" to hold on to Arizona and that he can't possibly win NY, FL, PA or OH is based on what? Flawed information and wishful thinking of the left?
I think the better question is: what is your contention that he's going to win NY, FL, PA or OH? Where do you see any data that reflects this outcome? The fact is we're both operating off of a hunch here. My hunch is that he gets waxed and will struggle to hold on to Arizona and Utah. My hunch is that he won't win NY, FL, PA or OH. Which of those 4 states do you honestly think he will win?
I've unplugged from the hoard of Trump worshipers in the media who sold their souls to bow at the Trump alter. Hannity, Greta, Rush, Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Eric Bolling, the entire Fox & Friends crew - just to name a few. Those people all showed their true colors this election cycle. They are ratings whores who ultimately care about their own little media empires than they do advancing the cause of conservatism.
We'll be able to see the actual results in a few months. I'm much more confident that Trump stands to lose either Utah or Arizona than he wins any of New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio or Florida. Time will tell.
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I think the better question is: what is your contention that he's going to win NY, FL, PA or OH? Where do you see any data that reflects this outcome? The fact is we're both operating off of a hunch here. My hunch is that he gets waxed and will struggle to hold on to Arizona and Utah. My hunch is that he won't win NY, FL, PA or OH. Which of those 4 states do you honestly think he will win?
I've unplugged from the hoard of Trump worshipers in the media who sold their souls to bow at the Trump alter. Hannity, Greta, Rush, Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Eric Bolling, the entire Fox & Friends crew - just to name a few. Those people all showed their true colors this election cycle. They are ratings whores who ultimately care about their own little media empires than they do advancing the cause of conservatism.
We'll be able to see the actual results in a few months. I'm much more confident that Trump stands to lose either Utah or Arizona than he wins any of New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio or Florida. Time will tell.
Didn't say he would win any of those states. Said he had a better chance than Cruz, Rubio, bush or Kasich.
He beat Rubio in Florida. Was Marco going to suddenly become the answer against her there? Cruz performed abysmally in NY. There is nothing he could do to make up that gap.
You're sure he's going to get steamrolled. But you (maybe not you specifically but the collective) were equally sure he'd implode in the primaries. That a true debater would eviscerate him. Didn't happen. The excuse that "they let the debates get out of control and are going to make him follow the rules now" is certifiable.
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Didn't say he would win any of those states. Said he had a better chance than Cruz, Rubio, bush or Kasich.
He beat Rubio in Florida. Was Marco going to suddenly become the answer against her there? Cruz performed abysmally in NY. There is nothing he could do to make up that gap.
You're sure he's going to get steamrolled. But you (maybe not you specifically but the collective) were equally sure he'd implode in the primaries. That a true debater would eviscerate him. Didn't happen. The excuse that "they let the debates get out of control and are going to make him follow the rules now" is certifiable.
You're right - I did think that he'd eventually implode in the primaries. I thought more rational heads would prevail. I thought that people would eventually be able to see him for the con artist that he is.
I was wrong. Which is why I am sitting on an island.
Hillary is awful. Abysmal. I am in 100% agreement with you on her. It's just that I'm not convinced that Trump is one iota better than her. If Trump had been Secretary of State I could see him cutting similar arms deals to fatten his own pockets. I do think he would have handled Benghazi better, but honestly - who could have done worse? I believe they are both morally bankrupt and that neither are fit to lead our country. So what is a person like me supposed to do?
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You're right - I did think that he'd eventually implode in the primaries. I thought more rational heads would prevail. I thought that people would eventually be able to see him for the con artist that he is.
I was wrong. Which is why I am sitting on an island.
Hillary is awful. Abysmal. I am in 100% agreement with you on her. It's just that I'm not convinced that Trump is one iota better than her. If Trump had been Secretary of State I could see him cutting similar arms deals to fatten his own pockets. I do think he would have handled Benghazi better, but honestly - who could have done worse? I believe they are both morally bankrupt and that neither are fit to lead our country. So what is a person like me supposed to do?
Steal some more souls?
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You're right - I did think that he'd eventually implode in the primaries. I thought more rational heads would prevail. I thought that people would eventually be able to see him for the con artist that he is.
I was wrong. Which is why I am sitting on an island.
Hillary is awful. Abysmal. I am in 100% agreement with you on her. It's just that I'm not convinced that Trump is one iota better than her. If Trump had been Secretary of State I could see him cutting similar arms deals to fatten his own pockets. I do think he would have handled Benghazi better, but honestly - who could have done worse? I believe they are both morally bankrupt and that neither are fit to lead our country. So what is a person like me supposed to do?
You KNOW what she will do.
You can only speculate as to what he might do.
The choice is therefore easy.
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You KNOW what she will do.
You can only speculate as to what he might do.
The choice is therefore easy.
To the point of the debate, I halfway agree. I do think trump being able to dictate the tempo of them was key. But I also don't think they will now revert to making him follow the rules. I think he will be able to have his way with Hillary just like he did in the primary debates. After having sparred with Cruz and Rubio, she should be a piece of cake as she has ZERO conviction or valid arguments against him. They at least had that going.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/battleground-polls-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html
Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump across the board in a new poll of battleground states.
According to Ballotpedia's battleground poll, Clinton leads Trump:
51% to 37% in Florida
45% to 41% in Iowa
50% to 33% in Michigan
48% to 38% in North Carolina
46% to 37% in Ohio
49% to 35% in Pennsylvania
45% to 38% in Virginia
Her leads held at nearly the same margins when Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson was included in the poll. And Clinton led Trump 48% to 37% when all states were factored together. With Johnson included, Clinton led Trump 44% to 34%, with Johnson at 13%.
Amid long-shot efforts by a handful of delegates to name someone other than Trump as the GOP nominee, Ballotpedia also polled Clinton against Ohio Gov. John Kasich and House Speaker Paul Ryan. Kasich had a slight lead on Clinton and Ryan polled neck-and-neck.
Separate polling in three battleground states, conducted by Quinnipiac University, found a much tighter race: Clinton up 8 points in Florida, but only 1 point in Pennsylvania and a tie in Ohio.
Each of the seven states surveyed is seen as a swing state where either party is normally seen as relatively competitive in presidential elections, though Michigan has gone Democratic in most recent presidential elections.
Ballotpedia surveyed roughly 600 voters in each of the states between June 10-22 for the poll and each survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
A Quinnipiac University national poll released Wednesday shows Hillary Clinton leading Trump by just two points, 42% to 40%, a much closer race than other recent surveys have shown. With third-party candidates included, Clinton leads 39% to 37%, with Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson at 8% and Green Party candidate Jill Stein at 4%.
This Quinnipiac poll is quite different from other recent surveys on the presidential race, showing a much tighter contest than others. Its field period overlaps with those of the Washington Post/ABC News and NBC News /Wall Street Journal polls released Sunday, both of which found Clinton significantly ahead of Trump.
Hillary is whipping the shit out of Trump in battleground states.
Johnson polling at 13%. Very close to the needed 15% to get on a debate stage.
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I thought we determined preseason polls were worthless?
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Latest libruhl biased Fox News Poll:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/29/fox-news-poll-clinton-up-by-6-points-89-percent-say-hot-headed-describes-trump.html
Down 7% from last month.
(http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/politics/2016/06/29/fox-news-poll-clinton-up-by-6-points-89-percent-say-hot-headed-describes-trump/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-8/images/image.img.jpg/880/558/1467230430426.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmJoTCkUgAA095w.jpg:large)
Also interesting:
Party unity is a trouble spot for Trump. Just 74 percent of Republicans back him over Clinton, down from 82 percent in May. For comparison, Mitt Romney lost despite garnering 93 percent support among Republicans in 2012. In addition, just over half of Republicans would prefer a different nominee (51 percent someone else vs. 48 percent Trump).
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54c95d06e4b04d8d26f97dde/t/55b8ef13e4b0f5ecc763a12a/1438183189245/)
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/battleground-polls-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html
Hillary is whipping the shit out of Trump in battleground states.
Johnson polling at 13%. Very close to the needed 15% to get on a debate stage.
Where is that jerk off image when I need it???
Is it November yet? Johnson 13%?? HAHAHAHAA.
If he Sleepy Weedson gets more than 7 in the general I will be surprised.
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Those ballotpedia numbers for the swing states are troubling for trump. They are reputable and unbiased, and tend to do their homework pretty well. Again it's only June but that's a big hole to be in for all 7 swing states. Very big hole.
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Trump says he forgave his loans to his campaign. His FEC says he didn’t. Yet another lie.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/after-saying-he-forgave-loans-campaign-trump-won-t-release-n601596
After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
by ARI MELBER and ALEXANDRA JAFFE
When Donald Trump said last Thursday he was forgiving over $45 million in personal loans he made to his campaign, the announcement drew plenty of coverage. Many even reported Trump's statement as if the deal was done.
But it's not.
A week later, NBC News has learned the FEC has posted no record of Trump converting his loans to donations. The Trump Campaign has also declined requests to share the legal paperwork required to execute the transaction, though they suggest it has been submitted.
Last week, campaign spokesperson Hope Hicks said Trump was submitting formal paperwork forgiving the loan on Thursday, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Reached by NBC this week, she said the paperwork "will be filed with the next regularly scheduled FEC report," and declined to provide any documentation.
The delay could matter, because until Trump formally forgives the loans, he maintains the legal option to use new donations to reimburse himself. (He can do so until August, under federal law.)
Related: Trump Campaign Could Use New Donations to Pay Donald Trump $36M for Loan
In his most recent FEC filing, which posted June 20, Trump treated all his spending on the campaign as loans.
An FEC staff member tells NBC News there is no new filing changing Trump's loans. The FEC's candidate tracking page, which posts filings, does not show new paperwork from Trump changing his loans.
Even the remote possibility that Trump could tap new donations to pay himself fed skepticism among GOP donors, who wanted assurances that money intended for the election would not end up in Trump's own pockets.
The Trump Campaign has struggled to pivot to fundraising after the primaries, posting only $1.2 million cash on hand. Trump's loan announcement also comes as political fundraising experts have questioned whether he has taken to exaggerating his online fundraising, with claims that his first foray into email fundraising broke every record ever.
There is nothing new about a candidate loaning money to his own campaign, and Trump has long argued that his personal wealth makes more independent than most politicians, even if he raises money in the general election.
Ultimately, if Trump declines to release any proof for claiming he forgave the loans, the rubber will hit the road on July 20, the next FEC filing deadline.
Related: Trump Clashes with Big Business
"It would be disclosed on the campaign's next FEC report," says Michael Toner, former FEC Chairman.
That disclosure is pretty simple. The FEC requires the candidate file a signed a statement, and note the change in the accounting in the monthly report.
For Trump, that would mean re-categorizing the $45.7 million in loans from his most recent report, plus any more of his spending, as candidate donations. Mitt Romney made a similar revision when forgiving some of his loans in 2011.
It's perfectly legal for Trump to make the change in his next monthly filing, instead of using the stand-alone statement his campaign asserted he was filing last week.
Given Trump's repeated insistence that this is a done deal, it is not clear why his campaign won't release the paperwork yet.
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Richard Nixon says hi.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/sources-donald-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lag?utm_term=.whbgmExyP
Sources: Donald Trump Listened In On Phone Lines At Mar-A-Lago
Trump had a phone console near his bed that could connect to every phone in the estate.
Several workers said Trump used the equipment to secretly listen in on phone calls in the mid-2000s.
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Richard Nixon says hi.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/sources-donald-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lag?utm_term=.whbgmExyP
The more I look at all 3 candidates, the more I don't like any of them. Peterson, Sanders and Cruz/Rubio would have at least been 3 very honest yet contrasting candidates. And collectively more human decency than the 3 we have. I'm just perturbed at the entire shit fest in general.
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Richard Nixon says hi.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/sources-donald-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lag?utm_term=.whbgmExyP
As someone who has to squash pretty outrageous rumors about what tha man has implemented in my very own shop, I have large questions about it's validity. No proof. Nobody actually putting their name to it.
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As someone who has to squash pretty outrageous rumors about what tha man has implemented in my very own shop, I have large questions about it's validity. No proof. Nobody actually putting their name to it.
So they still haven't found your hidden webcams in the bathroom?
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So they still haven't found your hidden webcams in the bathroom?
I have no doubt the guys at work are gonna' be pissed when they find out about that.
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The fat lady has not sung yet.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
White House Watch
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Thursday, June 30, 2016
The tables have turned in this week’s White House Watch. After trailing Hillary Clinton by five points for the prior two weeks, Donald Trump has now taken a four-point lead.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%. Twelve percent (12%) still like another candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Last week at this time, it was Clinton 44%, Trump 39%. This is Trump’s highest level of support in Rasmussen Reports’ matchups with Clinton since last October. His support has been hovering around the 40% mark since April, but it remains to be seen whether he’s just having a good week or this actually represents a real move forward among voters.
Trump now earns 75% support among his fellow Republicans and picks up 14% of the Democratic vote. Seventy-six percent (76%) of Democrats like Clinton, as do 10% of GOP voters. Both candidates face a sizable number of potential defections because of unhappiness with them in their own parties.
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The more I look at all 3 candidates, the more I don't like any of them. Peterson, Sanders and Cruz/Rubio would have at least been 3 very honest yet contrasting candidates. And collectively more human decency than the 3 we have. I'm just perturbed at the entire shit fest in general.
And we have 4 months of them being splashed across everything. We as a country are about to truly take it in the backside. Worse than we have been.
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Richard Nixon says hi.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/sources-donald-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lag?utm_term=.whbgmExyP
Jesus Montoya.....
It's BUZZFEED.
Please!! Tell me which Dunder Mifflin employee you should date based on your zodiac sign? I bet you get Stanley.
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Jesus Montoya.....
It's BUZZFEED.
Please!! Tell me which Dunder Mifflin employee you should date based on your zodiac sign? I bet you get Stanley.
They did the investigation, yes.
Also reported:
Here
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/30/trump-eavesdropped-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lago-report.html
Here
http://www.mediaite.com/online/reports-say-trump-used-to-eavesdrop-on-employees-phone-calls/
Here
http://theweek.com/speedreads/633336/donald-trump-allegedly-tapped-phone-lines-maralago
Here
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/06/30/sources-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lago/
Here
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-phone-calls/489545/
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmNiBoDWAAAaIoG.png:large)
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So they still haven't found your hidden webcams in the bathroom?
Negative ghost rider
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So Rasmussen/White House watch has trump up in the general.
Ballotpedia has Hillary up big in all the swing states.
Both are reputable think tanks who I think do honest polling.
Who to believe? Maybe both. But ultimately you'd rather be the one with the lead in swing states. Ask George W. Bush circa 2000.
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Dow up 235 again today.
I guess Brexit didn't crash the market after all
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Dow up 235 again today.
I guess Brexit didn't crash the market after all
No doubt. It took a 2 day nose dive but is just about right back where it was in just 3 days.
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If you don't think the media has an agenda, all you need to do is look at this situation.
Dow drops 600 and all you hear is how it is "plummeting" and "Crashing" and the catastrophe that is about to ensue.
Now it recovers in just 3 days and not a word
If the dow had dropped by a couple thousand, then maybe you could label it a plummet. A few hundred points is just a blip on the screen
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If you don't think the media has an agenda, all you need to do is look at this situation.
Dow drops 600 and all you hear is how it is "plummeting" and "Crashing" and the catastrophe that is about to ensue.
Now it recovers in just 3 days and not a word
If the dow had dropped by a couple thousand, then maybe you could label it a plummet. A few hundred points is just a blip on the screen
Correct. The perception the media invents and dictates is astonishing.
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They did the investigation, yes.
Also reported:
Here
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/30/trump-eavesdropped-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lago-report.html
Here
http://www.mediaite.com/online/reports-say-trump-used-to-eavesdrop-on-employees-phone-calls/
Here
http://theweek.com/speedreads/633336/donald-trump-allegedly-tapped-phone-lines-maralago
Here
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/06/30/sources-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lago/
Here
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-phone-calls/489545/
So who remembers how outraged Chizad was when sports by Brooks and pat forde and the rest of the bag of dicks ran stories that repeated some lie Thamel or Thayer barfed up about Cam and then Joe Schad would follow with "pete Thamel reports that..." And perpetuate the same lame nonsense. Anybody?
Anybody know if fries or coleslaw goes better with a big dose of irony?
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Dow up 235 again today.
I guess Brexit didn't crash the market after all
I was discussing this with my British boss this AM. I had said a few days ago that the Brits were right to leave. He was worried that the economy would suffer. I told him that the pound was a robust currency and would recover quickly . This morning he was excited that I was right and even agreed that immigration had gotten so bad in the UK due to EU open borders that Brexit had to happen.
The same type of movement is associated with Trump supporters. You know, those dumbass racist rednecks who are just full of hate...kinda like the Brits...
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Trump totally can fund his own campaign. Oh, and if you just so happened to have donated to it, you helped him pay for a $12,000 Tim Tebow helmet. Oh and it's a tax law violation. Wonder why he continues to refuse to release his returns?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/01/donald-trump-used-money-donated-for-charity-to-buy-himself-a-tim-tebow-signed-football-helmet/
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Trump totally can fund his own campaign. Oh, and if you just so happened to have donated to it, you helped him pay for a $12,000 Tim Tebow helmet. Oh and it's a tax law violation. Wonder why he continues to refuse to release his returns?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/01/donald-trump-used-money-donated-for-charity-to-buy-himself-a-tim-tebow-signed-football-helmet/
Four years ago, at a charity fundraiser in Palm Beach, Donald Trump got into a bidding war at the evening's live auction.
It would be crazy to see what dirt some of these guys could dig up about Clinton going back 4, 8, or 20 years like they do on Trump.
I'm not making excuses for Trump, but damn, this pales in comparison to shit from Hillary and her foundations...
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It would be crazy to see what dirt some of these guys could dig up about Clinton going back 4, 8, or 20 years like they do on Trump.
I'm not making excuses for Trump, but damn, this pales in comparison to shit from Hillary and her foundations...
But there was a link.
And a windmill.
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Certainly not sending dog whistles to his legion of neoNazi supporters by tweeting a picture of Hillary on piles of money with a Star of David-shaped graphic overlayed.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-tweet-with-star-of-david-draws-social-media-backlash/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=26160243
(http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/07/02/762d4bb2-fee0-43cd-a9c5-d87397eced44/resize/620x/a9ebd03c56431d94ab2d0e7c3fc6f139/screen-shot-2016-07-02-at-10-59-24-am.png)
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And this one was definitely taking it too far IMO.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmX7dfdXEAEvBS5.jpg:large)
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Certainly not sending dog whistles to his legion of neoNazi supporters by tweeting a picture of Hillary on piles of money with a Star of David-shaped graphic overlayed.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-tweet-with-star-of-david-draws-social-media-backlash/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=26160243
(http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/07/02/762d4bb2-fee0-43cd-a9c5-d87397eced44/resize/620x/a9ebd03c56431d94ab2d0e7c3fc6f139/screen-shot-2016-07-02-at-10-59-24-am.png)
Of all the things to attack him on, the bad photoshop job that some unpaid intern did should be at the top.
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The more I see these pathetic posts against Trump, the more it reminds me of a bunch of whiny little bitches in the bathroom at the club complaining about the guy who won't buy them a drink.
Carry on bitches!
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Certainly not sending dog whistles to his legion of neoNazi supporters by tweeting a picture of Hillary on piles of money with a Star of David-shaped graphic overlayed.
:facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm:
More looking for something that isn't there just to prove what a punk ass bitch you are.
That's a typical emphasis emblem. I had them by the droves when I was selling cars and when I owned my furniture stores. I'd write a price in them or use them behind price tags to showcase "sale" items.
(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mr_xxQawKr7w_9_ABl5Og2A.jpg)
It's not a motherfucking "Star of David."
You'd have to be a reactionary, moronic, shrieking, mewling bitch to see it as that.
:facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm:
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The exact image was pulled from https://archive.is/E0Dto where it was originally posted on 6-22-16.
His campaign is sourcing their material from what could only generously be called "ultra right wing" websites.
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The exact image was pulled from https://archive.is/E0Dto where it was originally posted on 6-22-16.
His campaign is sourcing their material from what could only generously be called "ultra right wing" websites.
Because that's the ONLY place that image was ever posted.
:taunt: :taunt: :facepalm: :taunt: :taunt:
Why is it so difficult for you (collective) to see the simplicity of what happens. Somebody sends his staff something, they think it's impactful and it pops out in a stupid ass tweet. Who gives a fuck?
And honestly, who gives a fuck if he panders to the right wing? Don't they vote too? Or are the only "educated" and "proper" voters those who ascribe to the lofty standards of graft, greed and communism that epitomizes the left?
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More looking for something that isn't there just to prove what a punk ass bitch you are.
That's a typical emphasis emblem. I had them by the droves when I was selling cars and when I owned my furniture stores. I'd write a price in them or use them behind price tags to showcase "sale" items.
(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mr_xxQawKr7w_9_ABl5Og2A.jpg)
It's not a motherfucking "Star of David."
You'd have to be a reactionary, moronic, shrieking, mewling bitch to see it as that.
:facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm:
Stupid or liar?
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Stupid or liar?
I think you're just being stupid. But I can get a second opinion if you want.
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I think you're just being stupid. But I can get a second opinion if you want.
I'll second both!
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More looking for something that isn't there just to prove what a punk ass bitch you are.
That's a typical emphasis emblem. I had them by the droves when I was selling cars and when I owned my furniture stores. I'd write a price in them or use them behind price tags to showcase "sale" items.
(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mr_xxQawKr7w_9_ABl5Og2A.jpg)
It's not a motherfucking "Star of David."
You'd have to be a reactionary, moronic, shrieking, mewling bitch to see it as that.
:facepalm: :taunt: :facepalm:
What did you google to come up with that image? I'll bet $10,000 it wasn't "random emphasis emblem".
Here's what I get when I search "emphasis star".
https://www.google.com/search?q=emphasis+star&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS692US692&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1071&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUncLCrdrNAhWGOyYKHVswCqAQ_AUICCgB
The first four are a 12 point star, two 8 point stars, and then I'm not counting but what appears to be about a 30 point star. No Star of David anywhere in there. And it's very obvious why. Unless you're stupid. In which case, please let me educate you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David
A Star of David, often yellow-colored, was used by the Nazis during the Holocaust as a method of identifying Jews. After the German invasion of Poland in 1939 there were initially different local decrees forcing Jews to wear a distinct sign – in the General Government e.g. a white armband with a blue Star of David on it, in the Warthegau a yellow badge in the form of a Star of David on the left side of the breast and on the back. If a Jew was found without wearing the star in public, they could be subjected to severe punishment. The requirement to wear the Star of David with the word Jude (German for Jew) inscribed was then extended to all Jews over the age of six in the Reich and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia (by a decree issued on September 1, 1941 signed by Reinhard Heydrich)[31] and was gradually introduced in other Nazi-occupied areas. Others, however, wore the Star of David as a symbol of defiance against the Nazis antisemitism, as in the case of United States Army private Hal Baumgarten, who wore a Star of David emblazoned on his back during the 1944 invasion of Normandy.
By your logic, there should be nothing offensive about the Bad Religion logo.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Bad_Religion.svg/2000px-Bad_Religion.svg.png)
They just don't like that geometric shape, amirite?
For that matter, an artist depicting one made from two turds isn't making any sort of anti-Chritian statement right? That's just any old shape.
Get the fuck right out of here with that nonsense.
Apparently, this lovely gentleman from this wonderful neo-Nazi publication The Daily Stormer is not as ignorant to history and theology as you are.
http://www.dailystormer.com/glorious-leader-tweets-hillary-image-with-dollars-and-jew-star/
Glorious Leader Tweets Hillary Image with Dollars and Jew Star
Andrew Anglin
Daily Stormer
July 2, 2016
Hero Trump has made history yet again by tweeting a meme of Hillary Clinton featuring her image with a Star of David over top hundred dollar bills. Inside the Jew star it reads “Most corrupt candidate ever!â€
It is indeed true that she is the most corrupt candidate ever, and it is also indeed true that the overwhelming majority of her corruption money comes from Jew sources.
This is, yet again, dog-whistling by The Leader. It comes just after he made some offensive comments about Israel being our friend – he says this for the evangelicals, then he signals to us – his real supporters – that we need not worry, he is just shilling a bit to get into power at which point he will shut down the entire Jew agenda.
The Yid media is flipping out.
But it doesn’t matter. Because the evangelicals will listen to his pro-Israel statements, while we will listen to his signals. Everybody wins. They can even report on me saying this is a dog-whistle – it doesn’t matter.
Also, by pushing this into the media, the Jews bring to the public the fact that yes, the majority of Hilary’s donors are filthy Jew terrorists.
Trump’s Israel Rhetoric
As far as Trump’s pro-Israel statements – I don’t care. Besides the dog-whistling confirmation that these are just said to appease the evangacucks, Israel is currently the least immediately threatening aspect of the Jew agenda.
Of much more immediate importance are these aspects of the Jew agenda:
Mass non-White immigration
Insane social engineering programs
Warmongering
Financial manipulations and rip-offs
Basically in that order.
Of course, Israel is connected to the warmongering (only through control of our own government, however), but Trump doesn’t say anything on that. All he says is “Israel’s security,†which means continuing to send them weapons and allowing them to continue to build settlements in the West Bank. Obviously, I would rather not send the Jews weapons, but in the larger scheme of things, this has become a pretty minor issue. The West Bank settlements I don’t really care about at all – that’s the problem of the Arabs.
That said, I absolutely support confronting Trump on any pro-Israel rhetoric – starting Friday, January 21st, 2017.
But after that day, we’re going to be hearing a whole lot less of that rhetoric. I can tell you that.
Here's some more on Trump's intentional social media ties to neo-Nazis.
http://fortune.com/donald-trump-white-supremacist-genocide/
It’s more than just a couple of retweets.
In late January, Donald Trump did something that would have sunk almost any other presidential campaign: He retweeted an anonymous Nazi sympathizer and white supremacist who goes by the not-so-subtle handle @WhiteGenocideTM. Trump neither explained nor apologized for the retweet and then, three weeks later, he did it again. This subsequent retweet was quickly deleted, but just two days later Trump retweeted a different user named @EustaceFash, whose Twitter header image at the time also included the term “white genocide.â€
None of this went unnoticed among ardent racists, many of whom believe there is a coordinated effort to eventually eliminate the “white race.â€
Trump is “giving us the old wink-wink,†wrote Andrew Anglin, editor of a white supremacist website called The Daily Stormer, after Trump retweeted two other “white genocide†theorists within a single minute. “Whereas the odd White genocide tweet could be a random occurrence, it isn’t statistically possible that two of them back to back could be a random occurrence. It could only be deliberate…Today in America the air is cold and it tastes like victory.â€
It is possible that Trump ― who, according to the campaign, does almost all of his own tweeting ― is unfamiliar with the term “white genocide†and doesn’t do even basic vetting of those whose tweets he amplifies to his seven million followers. But the reality is that there are dozens of tweets mentioning @realDonaldTrump each minute, and he has an uncanny ability to surface ones that come from accounts that proudly proclaim their white supremacist leanings.
“The retweets are based solely on the content, not the personal views of those individuals as they are not vetted, known or of interest to the candidate or the campaign,†says Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks, who declined to explain how Trump searches through his Twitter feed. Hicks also declined (repeatedly) to answer Fortune‘s question as to whether or not Trump believes that white genocide is a legitimate concern.
Follow the followers
Countless numbers of people mention #WhiteGenocide each day on Twitter, but Fortune used social media analytics software from Little Bird to find those who are considered to be the most prominent. In the world of social media marketing, such people are called “influencers.â€
“Our technology builds a big network of hundreds or thousands of specialists in a particular field or people who used a particular hashtag, and then analyzes the connections between the people in that network,†explains Little Bird co-founder and chairman Marshall Kirkpatrick. “We then find the person or people in that group that are most followed by others in the same group. It’s kind of like a ‘9-out-of-10 dentists recommend’ model rather than measuring people by the absolute popularity. We view it as earned influence within a specific context.â€
The Little Bird software analyzed Twitter content to generate a ranked list of just under 2,000 #WhiteGenocide “influencers†as of February 8. The more impactful, the higher up on the list (which, understandably, ebbs and flows a bit over time).
Since the start of his campaign, Donald Trump has retweeted at least 75 users who follow at least three of the top 50 #WhiteGenocide influencers. Moreover, a majority of these retweeted accounts are themselves followed by more than 100 #WhiteGenocide influencers.
But the relationship isn’t limited to retweets. For example, Trump national campaign spokesperson Katrina Pierson (who is black), follows the most influential #WhiteGenocide account, @Genophilia, which is best known for helping to launch a Star Wars boycott after it became known that the new film’s lead character was black. (Below are some recent #WhiteGenocide tweets from @Genophilia.)
(https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/geno1.jpg?quality=80)
(https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/geno2.jpg?quality=80)
(https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/geno4.jpg?quality=80)
Pierson also follows #WhiteGenocide influencer @Trumphat, who has tweeted that he looks forward to seeing people “swing from lampposts†on the #DOTR, which stands for Day of the Rope ― a seminal event in the racist Turner Diaries novels that inspired Timothy McVeigh. [Update: @Trumphat removed the tweet after this story was published, but Fortune retained a screenshot.]
Moreover, Pierson has company within Trump’s campaign:
The official Twitter account for Trump’s campaign in Nevada follows #WhiteGenocide influencers #3 and #40.
The official Twitter account for Trump’s campaign in North Carolina previously followed #20, #74 and #77.
Tana Goertz, a senior Trump advisor and co-chair of his Iowa campaign, follows #74 and #117.
Nancy Mace, Trump’s South Carolina coalitions director, follows #20 and #35.
Elizabeth Mae Davidson, a former campaign staffer who later sued Trump’s campaign for alleged sexual discrimination, follows #40.
Dena Espenscheid, Trump’s Virginia field director, follows #5, #22 and #35.
That last example is notable, because one of those followed accounts refers to itself as AdolfJoeBiden and has a profile image of Joe Biden with Hitler’s mustache and haircut — something that would have been visible to Espenscheid were she to have followed the account while using almost any device.
AdolfJoeBidenâ„¢ @Bidenshairplugs
Bill O'Reilly is one step away from mentioning #WhiteGenocide. He finally gets the purpose of immigration.
10:07 PM - 1 Dec 2015
Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks declined to discuss the Twitter follows of campaign staff or accounts, saying she doesn’t speak for them. Pierson did not return a request for comment.
Several grassroots organizations campaigning for Trump also follow #WhiteGenocide influencers. The most notable example may be Students for Trump, a national organization whose top two student leaders have met personally with Trump. Its main Twitter account (@TrumpStudents) follows nine of the top 100 #WhiteGenocide influencers, plus users like @WhiteAmericaKKK.
Even the Twitter account for @USAFreedomKids, the young girls whose performance for Trump in Florida became a viral sensation, follows 13 of the top 100 #WhiteGenocide influencers, plus another account that promotes a pro-Hitler documentary called The Greatest Story Never Told.
Fortune also used Little Bird software to analyze the top 50 influencers of the Trump campaign slogan #MakeAmericaGreatAgain, and found that 43 of them each follow at least 100 members of the #WhiteGenocide network.
Trump himself follows just 42 total Twitter accounts, none of which are #WhiteGenocide influencers. But a whopping 67.5% of the #WhiteGenocide influencers do follow @realDonaldTrump (as of March 15), while another 24.1% follow Trump campaign social media director @DanScavino. This compares to just 17.7% that follow @tedcruz, 5.7% that follow @HillaryClinton, 4% that follow @BernieSanders and 2% that follow @JohnKasich.
Cruz’s account, however, does follow 14 #WhiteGenocide influencers, while Kasich follows three. Clinton and Sanders don’t follow any.
It’s a pattern
(https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/neilturner.jpg?quality=80)
Donald Trump has never publicly commented on the idea of white genocide, and has publicly distanced himself from white supremacists (despite his well-publicized stumble on David Duke and the KKK). Most recently, in a Monday evening interview with CNN, Trump said he has “always condemned†white supremacists, adding: “I don’t want their support, I don’t need their support.â€
But Trump clearly is partial to conspiracy theories, including his involvement in the birther movement and his appearance on a radio program hosted by Alex Jones (whom Trump has referred to as a “nice guy,†even after Jones claimed The Boston Marathon bombings were carried out by the U.S. government).
To repeat what Hope Hicks said, Trump neither checks nor cares that an account like @NeilTurner_ ― which he has retweeted five times ― includes the phrase “#WhiteGenocide is real†in its bio.
What the data shows, however, is that Donald Trump and his campaign have used social media to court support within the white supremacist community, whether intentionally or unintentionally. And it appears to have worked.
15 Mar
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
I will bring our jobs back to America, fix our military and take care of our vets, end Common Core and ObamaCare, protect 2nd A, build WALL
@realDonaldTrump We need a wall against White Genocide and a wall on the border! #MakeAmericaGreatAgain (http://pic.twitter.com/gYGFcd1V5a)
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Ignorance.
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The exact image was pulled from https://archive.is/E0Dto where it was originally posted on 6-22-16.
His campaign is sourcing their material from what could only generously be called "ultra right wing" websites.
Oh...the campaign just ripped the meme from a twitter user, not a website. Perhaps they could have reviewed some of the twitter accounts other posts to see what agenda they were pushing?
https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/750127115446562816
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Oh...the campaign just ripped the meme from a twitter user, not a website. Perhaps they could have reviewed some of the twitter accounts other posts to see what agenda they were pushing?
https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/750127115446562816
Come on Wes.
It's what I call "manufactured outrage" It starts with s premise "I hate Trump, therefore..." and then throws a crybaby tantrum in regard to any little thing it can find that it can use to sustain its pique.
It's all chizad is capable of right now. It's why he keeps getting goaded. He doesn't start with a neutral position, he opens with outrage and THEN looks for a reason to be suffused with indignation.
This is one of the most ignorant "controversies" I've ever seen. We've got a presidential candidate lying to the FBI abiut her role in the exposure of classified and sensitive documents and meanwhile the media and DJ chazzy whiff want to lose their collective shit over a starburst on a stupid tweet that wasn't even designed by the trump campaign. Pffttt.
And for Queen chazeefa's edification I think I searched for sales starburst. Or something like that. Took me all of ten seconds to find packages of them. I had and used tons of them in my stores. The number of sides or points was never an issue.
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Oh...the campaign just ripped the meme from a twitter user, not a website. Perhaps they could have reviewed some of the twitter accounts other posts to see what agenda they were pushing?
https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/750127115446562816
Oh, no question. And I'll put this one up there with the Cruz campaign hiring the porn star for one of their commercials. Should it have been pulled from there? Of course not. Did Trump go out and grab it? No way would I believe that.
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Oh, no question. And I'll put this one up there with the Cruz campaign hiring the porn star for one of their commercials. Should it have been pulled from there? Of course not. Did Trump go out and grab it? No way would I believe that.
Quit being reasonable. You know those swastika sporting nazi skinheads that run trumps campaign are out there stirring up the Jew hating ignoramooses who are his only supporters.
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Oh, no question. And I'll put this one up there with the Cruz campaign hiring the porn star for one of their commercials. Should it have been pulled from there? Of course not. Did Trump go out and grab it? No way would I believe that.
I'm missing your point. I'm not claiming that Trump himself trolls twitter to find memes to use. But his campaign quite obviously did. In fact, they admit as much.
"The social media graphic used this weekend was not created by the campaign nor was it sourced from an anti-Semitic site. It was lifted from an anti-Hillary Twitter user where countless images appear," he wrote.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/11beb812c1f94352955f7bc7fcf23dde/trump-blames-media-star-tweet-uproar
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Quit being reasonable. You know those swastika sporting nazi skinheads that run trumps campaign are out there stirring up the Jew hating ignoramooses who are his only supporters.
Stupid or liar?
I have been saying this for pages and pages, and now thanks to this ignorant shit, it is becoming mainstream common knowledge. Search "kyke" on Twitter. Right now. Do it. See all those Make America Great Again hats on every avatar?
You don't just get to say there is not SUBSTANTIAL support for Trump among neo-Nazis. A group who, prior to Trump's candidacy, I would have said was a negligible subset of society. Not any more. They've literally come out of the woodwork to support him. Look at that Daily Stormer article.
You can say all day there's no overt Nazi symbolism in the meme. You can say there isn't significant Nazi support for Trump. THE NAZIS DISAGREE WITH YOU.
You want to talk about imploring liberal debate tactics? You are reading the FBI transcripts of Omar Mateen saying "Allahu Akbar, I pledgy my allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State, may Allah protect him" and then saying "Yeah, but we really don't know Islam had anything to do with this."
Stupid or liar?
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And for Queen chazeefa's edification I think I searched for sales starburst. Or something like that. Took me all of ten seconds to find packages of them. I had and used tons of them in my stores. The number of sides or points was never an issue.
Liar. Definitely liar.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22sales+starburst%22&rlz=1C1CAFB_enUS688US688&espv=2&biw=1527&bih=877&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwje7uvjutzNAhWTZiYKHW9nDkYQ_AUIBigB
How many of those are six point stars? Don't see the image you posted. Why is that? Could it be that you're lying about the search terms you used to find those very obviously Star of Davids?
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I'm missing your point. I'm not claiming that Trump himself trolls twitter to find memes to use. But his campaign quite obviously did. In fact, they admit as much.
"The social media graphic used this weekend was not created by the campaign nor was it sourced from an anti-Semitic site. It was lifted from an anti-Hillary Twitter user where countless images appear," he wrote.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/11beb812c1f94352955f7bc7fcf23dde/trump-blames-media-star-tweet-uproar
Point I'm trying to make (and that you agree with) is that it wasn't Trump himself who sent that tweet (or obtained the image and then wrote the tweet before giving it to Donald to hit send). Should it have been sent? No, someone should have caught it. Does that make Donald a racist? No.
I just think if we're going to attack the guy, we can find much more substantial things to attack the guy on. This is small potatoes, and in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it matters.
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Point I'm trying to make (and that you agree with) is that it wasn't Trump himself who sent that tweet (or obtained the image and then wrote the tweet before giving it to Donald to hit send). Should it have been sent? No, someone should have caught it. Does that make Donald a racist? No.
Doesn't the buck stop at the Don? It's his campaign.
I just think if we're going to attack the guy, we can find much more substantial things to attack the guy on. This is small potatoes, and in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it matters.
It's another in a pattern of gaffes. He is systematically showing the world how unprepared he is to lead a campaign, much less the U.S.
This also shows us the key to his success. Trump fucks up...world reacts. While still reacting, Trump stumbles again. World has to abandon prior gaffe to react to new one.
This whack-a-mole of idiocy is impossible to properly redress because he just keeps blindly stumbling forward and isn't accountable for anything he said 5 seconds, 5 months or 5 years ago.
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Doesn't the buck stop at the Don? It's his campaign.
Ultimately, yes. So let's call him a dumbass and then move on.
It's another in a pattern of gaffes. He is systematically showing the world how unprepared he is to lead a campaign, much less the U.S.
This also shows us the key to his success. Trump fudges up...world reacts. While still reacting, Trump stumbles again. World has to abandon prior gaffe to react to new one.
This whack-a-mole of idiocy is impossible to properly redress because he just keeps blindly stumbling forward and isn't accountable for anything he said 5 seconds, 5 months or 5 years ago.
Oh don't get me wrong. I'm not a fan of his. I've not seen one thing of substance from him on how we deal with ISIS, other than bombing the shit out of them, which I don't think will solve the problem. I could keep going (Immigration is another one - build a wall? Please. Keep Muslims out? How do you enforce it).
I think the problem is that we are arguing like idiots with an idiot.
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I think the problem is that we are arguing like idiots with an idiot.
Disagree with the first part...but how to engage Capt. Bloatimus, then?
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Stupid or liar?
I have been saying this for pages and pages, and now thanks to this ignorant shit, it is becoming mainstream common knowledge. Search "kyke" on Twitter. Right now. Do it. See all those Make America Great Again hats on every avatar?
You don't just get to say there is not SUBSTANTIAL support for Trump among neo-Nazis. A group who, prior to Trump's candidacy, I would have said was a negligible subset of society. Not any more. They've literally come out of the woodwork to support him. Look at that Daily Stormer article.
You can say all day there's no overt Nazi symbolism in the meme. You can say there isn't significant Nazi support for Trump. THE NAZIS DISAGREE WITH YOU.
You want to talk about imploring liberal debate tactics? You are reading the FBI transcripts of Omar Mateen saying "Allahu Akbar, I pledgy my allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State, may Allah protect him" and then saying "Yeah, but we really don't know Islam had anything to do with this."
Stupid or liar?
For the eleventy billionth time. Who. Gives. A. Fuck. If. They. Support. Trump.
Gonna support somebody. Won't be a democrat. These same groups supported bush. Reagan. Romney. Dole.
They all nazis too?
You're losing it.
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Gonna support somebody. Won't be a democrat.
Trump is a democrat. He's utilizing a segment of the R base for his purposes, but he doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.
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Disagree with the first part...but how to engage Capt. Bloatimus, then?
And that's the million dollar question that the RNC is asking themselves.
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And that's the million dollar question that the RNC is asking themselves.
Thankfully, I think he fails miserably to accumulate enough votes to win. That said, however, the RNC needs to take a hard look at the America that is...not the America they nostalgically remember...and figure out how to engage with a diverse population.
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Thankfully, I think he fails miserably to accumulate enough votes to win. That said, however, the RNC needs to take a hard look at the America that is...not the America they nostalgically remember...and figure out how to engage with a diverse population.
Agree 100% with you. The RNC have no one to blame but themselves for this.
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Trump is a democrat. He's utilizing a segment of the R base for his purposes, but he doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.
This x 1,000,000. It's exactly what I've said since day 1.
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This x 1,000,000. It's exactly what I've said since day 1.
You were talking that early?
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Stupid or liar?
I have been saying this for pages and pages, and now thanks to this ignorant shit, it is becoming mainstream common knowledge. Search "kyke" on Twitter. Right now. Do it. See all those Make America Great Again hats on every avatar?
You don't just get to say there is not SUBSTANTIAL support for Trump among neo-Nazis. A group who, prior to Trump's candidacy, I would have said was a negligible subset of society. Not any more. They've literally come out of the woodwork to support him. Look at that Daily Stormer article.
You can say all day there's no overt Nazi symbolism in the meme. You can say there isn't significant Nazi support for Trump. THE NAZIS DISAGREE WITH YOU.
You want to talk about imploring liberal debate tactics? You are reading the FBI transcripts of Omar Mateen saying "Allahu Akbar, I pledgy my allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State, may Allah protect him" and then saying "Yeah, but we really don't know Islam had anything to do with this."
Stupid or liar?
Your comments don't make any sense any more.
They're just random disconnected thoughts foamed in a frothy hysteria.
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Trump is a democrat. He's utilizing a segment of the R base for his purposes, but he doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.
You can say that until your face is as red as chizzy's ass. But he's on the republican ticket. And he talks about securing the borders and backing the military. Whether he really is or really isn't is a matter of your speculation. Fact is he appears right of her. And you greatly underestimate the loathing of her outside the liberal enclaves.
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Thankfully, I think he fails miserably to accumulate enough votes to win. That said, however, the RNC needs to take a hard look at the America that is...not the America they nostalgically remember...and figure out how to engage with a diverse population.
1000 percent wrong.
The Republican Party lost its way when it abandoned traditional values and standards in search of PC "diversity."
Why is Trump so strong? Because he's only giving lip service to those concepts. Imagine the crushing strength of a candidate who actually embraced them.
Your "better adapt to us" PC mentality is the crux of what's wrong with this country and the exact attitude that needs to be eliminated.
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This whack-a-mole of idiocy is impossible to properly redress because he just keeps blindly stumbling forward and isn't accountable for anything he said 5 seconds, 5 months or 5 years ago.
:thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup:
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Your comments don't make any sense any more.
They're just random disconnected thoughts foamed in a frothy hysteria.
So, stupid? You keep shifting between the two.
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1000 percent wrong.
The Republican Party lost its way when it abandoned traditional values and standards in search of PC "diversity."
Why is Trump so strong? Because he's only giving lip service to those concepts. Imagine the crushing strength of a candidate who actually embraced them.
Your "better adapt to us" PC mentality is the crux of what's wrong with this country and the exact attitude that needs to be eliminated.
Check the past two elections...and who note who didn't vote for the R candidate.
Do you not recall the anguished soul searching in the wake of Romney's loss? The Rs themselves were trying to figure a way to court women and people of color because their primary demo, old white males, are aging out of relevancy.
The Rs lost their way when they sold out to the evangelicals and abandoned their conservative roots.
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Good Lord is this country so fucked.
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Check the past two elections...and who note who didn't vote for the R candidate.
Do you not recall the anguished soul searching in the wake of Romney's loss? The Rs themselves were trying to figure a way to court women and people of color because their primary demo, old white males, are aging out of relevancy.
The Rs lost their way when they sold out to the evangelicals and abandoned their conservative roots.
No but you don't understand, Wes. KAOS doesn't feel that way, and therefore FUCK YOUR DATA.
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You see, according to Kaos, Republicans just can't force themselves to give a damn unless their candidate will keep the uppity negroes in check. Maybe they should propose a reinstitution of slavery. That'll get Johnny Q Public to turn out!
Like every fucking thing you say, your theory is demonstrably false.
Romney won 60% of the white vote, the highest of any candidate since 1988. He won the white vote in 42 states. He lost 83% of minority votes.
Absolutely fucking nothing supports your ludicrous statement. But there I go again with my faggoty assed facts and links and numbers and shit...
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Check the past two elections...and who note who didn't vote for the R candidate.
Do you not recall the anguished soul searching in the wake of Romney's loss? The Rs themselves were trying to figure a way to court women and people of color because their primary demo, old white males, are aging out of relevancy.
The Rs lost their way when they sold out to the evangelicals and abandoned their conservative roots.
Believe that's similar to what I said.
Republican leadership split into two separate factions essentially -- the Donald "Can I Get a Big Amen" Wildmon zealots and the "Look How Much Like a Democrat I Can Be" scalawags. Neither of those fit the traditional, conservative, patriotic ideology that still resonates with a large portion of this country. They left most people out.
Edit to add: The idea of "courting" a particular demographic is completely flawed. You need to establish your position and be that. If people are on board, then people are. If they're not something else will take its place. When you abandon one set of values to "court" another, then you'll lose your original base.
What BOTH parties need to do is stop fucking pandering to blacks, women, hispanics, whites, iguanas, gays, transgenders, pescatarians, pescapescatarians (if you don't know, don't ask), chicks with dicks, pedophiles, muslims, chinese, mathletes, athletes, bicyclists, dopers and pokers. Lay out what you're going to do for the country and quit lying. That goes double for Hillary who wouldn't know the truth if it jumped on her pantsuit leg and fucked her with a baseball bat.
I'm not a religious zealot. I'm also not in line with liberal social or economic policies. I don't favor unfettered immigration. I frankly, don't like having to push any fucking thing for English. There was nobody left for me.
Trump's not it either. He was never my choice. But in any election where one option is Hillary I'm going to choose whatever has a chance to defeat her. I'd seriously vote for a live honey badger or a dead Tibetan yak before I'd vote for her.
The one thing he does much better than Hillary is look and sound like a patriot. Maybe it's phony. But maybe it's enough.
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You see, according to Kaos, Republicans just can't force themselves to give a damn unless their candidate will keep the uppity negroes in check. Maybe they should propose a reinstitution of slavery. That'll get Johnny Q Public to turn out!
Like every fucking thing you say, your theory is demonstrably false.
Romney won 60% of the white vote, the highest of any candidate since 1988. He won the white vote in 42 states. He lost 83% of minority votes.
Absolutely fucking nothing supports your ludicrous statement. But there I go again with my faggoty assed facts and links and numbers and shit...
So full of hate and rage that you can't see the forest for the one little bitty Trump Tree.
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The Rs lost their way when they sold out to the evangelicals and abandoned their conservative roots.
I wouldnt disagree with that much.
Evangelicals went strongly for Trump more than any other candidate. And it wasn't even close. Evangelicals directly nominated Trump. Problem there is that most of the country is not of the same demographic. Not intensity anyway. I'm a Christian. But I'm far from evangelical. Not even close. But I have roots and convictions. Im very much a Reaganite. Reagan was a Christian. But he didn't wear it on his sleeve constantly and shove it on you with every breath. He had convictions. He knew what he wanted. And knew how to get it. He formed a great rapport with tip o Neil. Agree or disagree with him, he had a gift. And he had those roots you speak of.
He created a coalition. Of Christians, independents, some minorities, some women and moderate democrats. I'm not sure Trump could do that. Maybe but not nearly like Reagan did. That's been my main concern with trump in a general. Not to bring Cruz back up but I had a few friends that were agnostic that liked him. Not because they agreed with him socially but because they liked his conviction and love of constitution. It was at least a respect. I believe richard dreyfus said the same thing. I'm not sure people see that in the Donald. And they sure as hell don't see it in Hillary. At least with a Cruz or a Rubio or a Rand Paul you would have gotten someone with conviction and a pretty good constitutional rating whether someone likes them or not. It garners a respect.
And to go back to what you said above, I think it serves them better when they nominate someone like that. Reagan has really been the only one the last 50 years that WAS like that. And he had two routes and was extremely effective as a President. The others have been complete duds. Going back to Nixon in 1968 (as opposed to the Nixon in 1960 who was pretty legit).
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Believe that's similar to what I said.
Not at all. There's nothing remotely PC about the evangelical agenda that the Rs adopted to garner that vote.
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Evangelicals went strongly for Trump more than any other candidate. And it wasn't even close. Evangelicals directly nominated Trump. Problem there is that most of the country is not of the same demographic. Not intensity anyway. I'm a Christian. But I'm far from evangelical. Not even close. But I have roots and convictions. Im very much a Reaganite. Reagan was a Christian. But he didn't wear it on his sleeve constantly and shove it on you with every breath. He had convictions. He knew what he wanted. And knew how to get it. He formed a great rapport with tip o Neil. Agree or disagree with him, he had a gift. And he had those roots you speak of.
Related:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/05/opinion/campaign-stops/the-theology-of-donald-trump.html
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Related:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/05/opinion/campaign-stops/the-theology-of-donald-trump.html
Just a side note, Rubio and Cruz and Carson (per polls) would have pulled some women and minorities over from the other side in a general. That's not something that shows up in a primary.
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Not to bring Cruz back up but I had a few friends that were agnostic that liked him. Not because they agreed with him socially but because they liked his conviction and love of constitution. It was at least a respect. I believe richard dreyfus said the same thing. I'm not sure people see that in the Donald. And they sure as hell don't see it in Hillary. At least with a Cruz or a Rubio or a Rand Paul you would have gotten someone with conviction and a pretty good constitutional rating whether someone likes them or not. It garners a respect.
Donald wiped his ass with those guys. I still can't believe we're discussing how marvelously they would do in the general when they couldn't come close to catching a guy who says whatever pops into his head at the moment, has less political experience than I do and who has no established position other than "things are fucked up and we want them to be great again."
Doesn't it mean anything to any of you how strongly that hits home with people? I'm sitting there last night watching a fireworks display and listening to a band play patriotic music and I'm thinking to myself "how much longer do we get to have this? Will my grandkids see it?"
They play the Star Spangled Banner. People my age and older all stood up. Younger than me, it was about half and half. Some never looked up from their cell phones. They play the various songs from each branch of service and invite the veterans to stand. Half-hearted applause.
You can pooh-pooh it all you want, but we are losing the moral fiber of this country. We're replacing it with "acceptance" for any and all perversions and weirdnesses. It's going to be the end of us.
For all the bullshitting I do here, I'm a patriot. I believe in God and I believed in this country. I don't believe in the country as Obama, Clinton and their euro-trash ilk want it to be.
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Not at all. There's nothing remotely PC about the evangelical agenda that the Rs adopted to garner that vote.
The Republican party went in two directions. There's an evangelical wing searching for a right reverend. No thanks to that. There's a "new age" wing searching for their next Bubba Bill who will speak in PC platitudes and pull all those women and blacks and hispanics and transgenders and whateverthefucks.
Right now, because it seems to lack a central focus, it's not doing either well and it has abandoned the conservatives who were once its foundation.
Niether party is serving the populace any more. They're serving themselves.
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Donald wiped his ass with those guys. I still can't believe we're discussing how marvelously they would do in the general when they couldn't come close to catching a guy who says whatever pops into his head at the moment, has less political experience than I do and who has no established position other than "things are fucked up and we want them to be great again."
Doesn't it mean anything to any of you how strongly that hits home with people? I'm sitting there last night watching a fireworks display and listening to a band play patriotic music and I'm thinking to myself "how much longer do we get to have this? Will my grandkids see it?"
They play the Star Spangled Banner. People my age and older all stood up. Younger than me, it was about half and half. Some never looked up from their cell phones. They play the various songs from each branch of service and invite the veterans to stand. Half-hearted applause.
You can pooh-pooh it all you want, but we are losing the moral fiber of this country. We're replacing it with "acceptance" for any and all perversions and weirdnesses. It's going to be the end of us.
For all the bullshitting I do here, I'm a patriot. I believe in God and I believed in this country. I don't believe in the country as Obama, Clinton and their euro-trash ilk want it to be.
Ford did the same in 1976. Was he a better general candidate than Reagan? Nope. The primary voters just got it wrong. They do that a lot. They are a small % of the entire electorate. Reagan came back 4 years later and showed everyone that he should have been the guy in 1976 by trouncing a guy that trounced Ford.
I even said I can't prove they would have won. But it's just my opinion they would have done better. Especially Rubio. The polls indicated that as well. They aren't everything but they are all we have to go on. I don't think that having thought that another of the GOP candidates would have been better suited to battle flawed Crooked Hillary, makes one in favor of all things weird or unpatriotic. A few of their guys on the GOP side were patriotic and constitutional at their core.
It's neither here or there now, so it's useless to rehash to be honest.
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Ford did the same in 1976. Was he a better general candidate than Reagan? Nope. The primary voters just got it wrong. They do that a lot. They are a small % of the entire electorate. Reagan came back 4 years later and showed everyone that he should have been the guy in 1976 by trouncing a guy that trounced Ford.
I even said I can't prove they would have won. But it's just my opinion they would have done better. Especially Rubio. The polls indicated that as well. They aren't everything but they are all we have to go on. I don't think that having thought that another of the GOP candidates would have been better suited to battle flawed Crooked Hillary, makes one in favor of all things weird or unpatriotic. A few of their guys on the GOP side were patriotic and constitutional at their cores.
Weren't ready for Ford in 1976. That was punishment for Watergate.
Nobody said unpatriotic. SHE is. She's no more a patriot than Putin is. She's a greedy opportunist who has and will betray this country.
But there's just not anything substantive to base this repetitive refrain that Rubio (or Cruz or whoever) would beat her. If Rubio had been even close in Florida (or anywhere else) maybe you could convince me that he would be able to bring out the vote. He wasn't. Trump demolished him. Maybe they were patriotic and constitutional. But they couldn't convey it. People didn't see it.
Trump is a horrifically weak candidate. He's flawed. He was ripe for attack and demolition. None of them could come close. He swatted them away like gnats. Do you honestly think they would have done better against the antichrist? I just can't see it.
That's how I ended up on the Trump wagon anyway. I saw him laying waste to the rest of the field and figured I better find something to live with.
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FWIW, while I don't appreciate or necessarily agree with his childish characterizations of Trump, I sadly do feel that this may be the most likely outcome. I'd prefer it not to be because we are officially doomed the day this lying shrew whore takes office, but it's the unpleasant reality.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2016/07/05/no-matter-how-you-look-trumps-not-winning-column/86715020/
My hope was that Trump could energize the voters in states like Florida, OH, VA, PA and others that are critical to turning her away. Maybe he still can. It's a long way to November. But the odds are low (and would be just as high or low for anyone else).
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Donald wiped his ass with those guys. I still can't believe we're discussing how marvelously they would do in the general when they couldn't come close to catching a guy who says whatever pops into his head at the moment, has less political experience than I do and who has no established position other than "things are fucked up and we want them to be great again."
Bingo. Exactly why he wiped his ass with those guys. He was/is anti-everything every politician in the race stands for on both sides but more importantly, he's taken an anti-PC, don't give a shit what I say or what anybody thinks approach to his campaign. Now as I said in another thread, he's most likely now getting to the point where even many of his own supporters are starting to recognize the waffling, the thin skinned and mindless blather. But initially, a huge segment of society was enamored with someone who would dare go against the social justice warriors and say things a public figure, much less one running for POTUS would say. Think about this:
There are an estimated 11.4 million illegal immigrants in this country with thousands more pouring in right now. It's an enormous problem and no way to sugarcoat it otherwise. Trump brashly said, "If you're here illegally, you got to go. And we're going to secure our borders by building a wall." Is that the right solution? Would/will it work? I have no idea. But what has anyone else offered? I imagine I could chrome the googles and find out but none of them are going to trumpet their plan to the masses for fear of reprisal. And I know there's not a soul on this board that honestly believes that even one of the 30 plus candidates that started this thing would do anything more than visit the border....meet and greet with a few Mayors and Governors...take a few photo ops and declare that "We need immigration reform".
The common man, and I include myself among them, is thinking "Yep, if you're not here legally, you need to go. And yep, we definitely need to find a way to secure our borders."
Is "bombing the shit out of ISIS" the right solution? Not sure. Has anyone offered a better one? People are tired of terrorist attacks on our soil and in France and all over the world. People are tired of hearing about mass decapitations and burning people alive all in the name of Alla Aromashado Achmed. Trump said "I'll build up the military and go hit em' where they live and work. Fuck the consequences. Murrica!"
That's what people wanted to hear. NAFTA was a horrendous deal in my and a ton of other people's opinion. Trump said "First thing we're gonna' do is repeal it. Murrica!"
Black Lives Matter. Trump said "Put a sock in it. The statistics overwhelmingly say you need to look at yourselves first when it comes to white on black/black on black crime. Oh my God, you can't say that...at least not publically.
And on and on and on. I'm not defending Trump and certainly not supporting him. But as to why he bitch slapped all the Repubs and probably would have wiped his ass with Hellary as well 3-4 months ago, that's exactly why. Nobody believed and I doubt will ever believe that ANY other candidate that's been in this race would actually try to take these issues head on and so aggressively. That's what people wanted to hear. Turns out, he's probably what everyone thought from the start but IMO, if nothing else good comes out of this, it's that maybe future candidates with political know how will take the same no holds barred approach and say what needs to be said. Definitely tempered about 74%.
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Bingo. Exactly why he wiped his ass with those guys. He was/is anti-everything every politician in the race stands for on both sides but more importantly, he's taken an anti-PC, don't give a shit what I say or what anybody thinks approach to his campaign. Now as I said in another thread, he's most likely now getting to the point where even many of his own supporters are starting to recognize the waffling, the thin skinned and mindless blather. But initially, a huge segment of society was enamored with someone who would dare go against the social justice warriors and say things a public figure, much less one running for POTUS would say. Think about this:
There are an estimated 11.4 million illegal immigrants in this country with thousands more pouring in right now. It's an enormous problem and no way to sugarcoat it otherwise. Trump brashly said, "If you're here illegally, you got to go. And we're going to secure our borders by building a wall." Is that the right solution? Would/will it work? I have no idea. But what has anyone else offered? I imagine I could chrome the googles and find out but none of them are going to trumpet their plan to the masses for fear of reprisal. And I know there's not a soul on this board that honestly believes that even one of the 30 plus candidates that started this thing would do anything more than visit the border....meet and greet with a few Mayors and Governors...take a few photo ops and declare that "We need immigration reform".
The common man, and I include myself among them, is thinking "Yep, if you're not here legally, you need to go. And yep, we definitely need to find a way to secure our borders."
Fucking A.
Is "bombing the shit out of ISIS" the right solution? Not sure. Has anyone offered a better one? People are tired of terrorist attacks on our soil and in France and all over the world. People are tired of hearing about mass decapitations and burning people alive all in the name of Alla Aromashado Achmed. Trump said "I'll build up the military and go hit em' where they live and work. Fuck the consequences. Murrica!"
Obama tried sucking their dicks. That didn't work. What's Clinton going to do? Give them access to free healthcare and send them copies of our military strategies?
That's what people wanted to hear. NAFTA was a horrendous deal in my and a ton of other people's opinion. Trump said "First thing we're gonna' do is repeal it. Murrica!"
The town where I grew up was a great place to live when I was a kid. Now it's a wasteland. All the jobs went to Mexico. NAFTA killed my hometown and thousands more like it.
Black Lives Matter. Trump said "Put a sock in it. The statistics overwhelmingly say you need to look at yourselves first when it comes to white on black/black on black crime. Oh my God, you can't say that...at least not publically.
Bingo.
And on and on and on. I'm not defending Trump and certainly not supporting him. But as to why he bitch slapped all the Repubs and probably would have wiped his ass with Hellary as well 3-4 months ago, that's exactly why. Nobody believed and I doubt will ever believe that ANY other candidate that's been in this race would actually try to take these issues head on and so aggressively. That's what people wanted to hear. Turns out, he's probably what everyone thought from the start but IMO, if nothing else good comes out of this, it's that maybe future candidates with political know how will take the same no holds barred approach and say what needs to be said. Definitely tempered about 74%.
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Are you married? My profile is on Match.com. Look for Trumperator16.
I don't do tongue on the first date. Unless you get a couple of Zima's in me, then it's on.
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I don't do tongue on the first date. Unless you get a couple of Zima's in me, then it's on.
Well. I mean I thought it was our first date when you did. But I guess it depends on if you count that late night at the pizza parlor.
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For fuck's sake…
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/donald-trump-saddam-hussein-iraq-terrorism/
Trump praises for Saddam Hussein's efficient killing of 'terrorists,' calls today's Iraq 'Harvard for terrorism'
By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
Updated 10:23 PM ET, Tue July 5, 2016
Trump: World better with Hussein and Gadhafi in power
Raleigh, North Carolina (CNN)Donald Trump on Tuesday once again expressed his preference for keeping dictators in power in the Middle East.
While acknowledging that Saddam Hussein "was a bad guy," Trump praised the former Iraqi dictator's efficient killing of "terrorists" -- despite the fact that Iraq was listed as a state sponsor of terrorism during Hussein's time in power.
Trump, who supported the Iraq War before the invasion and in the early months of the war, said the U.S. "shouldn't have destabilized" Iraq before pivoting to praising Hussein.
"He was a bad guy -- really bad guy. But you know what? He did well? He killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn't read them the rights. They didn't talk. They were terrorists. Over. Today, Iraq is Harvard for terrorism," Trump said.
The remarks came during a rally where he was introduced by Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who is a potential running mate for Trump.
Asked Tuesday night on Fox News about the comments, House Speaker Paul Ryan appeared taken aback by Trump's words.
"He was one of the 20th century's most evil people," Ryan said of the former Iraqi strongman.
The presumptive Republican nominee has previously said that Iraq and Libya -- two countries that have become ISIS strongholds -- would be better off if Hussein and Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi were still alive and in power in their respective countries.
Trump has also previously praised Hussein's prowess at killing terrorists.
Hussein was notoriously effective at suppressing dissent in his country, but he frequently targeted civilians and minority groups while in power, which earned him widespread condemnation from the international community as one of the world's worst human rights abusers.
Hussein also financed and supported terrorism around the world.
:facepalm:
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For fuck's sake…
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/donald-trump-saddam-hussein-iraq-terrorism/ :facepalm:
Like, seriously. The fucking ineptitude. To fuck up what should be a chip shot put on the day Hillary was raked over the coals for her "extreme ineptitude", and rather than talk about that with any kind of coherency, you go and praise Saddam motherfucking Hussein??? And not only that, do so on the basis of some completely anti-factual horseshit? Like, the exact opposite is true. He literally funded terrorists and their families. I guess he thinks the Kurds were terrorists? Because they were brown?
How the fuck do you even do that unless you're a plant intentionally trying to tank the Republican party? How? Explain it to me. If this were a movie, it would be too ridiculously over the top and unbelievable.
He has praised Kim Jong Un (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-gotta-give/story?id=36198345), Muammar Gadafi (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/25/politics/donald-trump-moammar-gadhafi-saddam-hussein/), Vladimir Putin (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/putin-trump-bromance/421242/), the Chinese dictator responsible for Tienanmen Square (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/trump-calls-tiananmen-square-protests-riot-defends-calling-crackdown-strong-n536761), and now Saddam Hussein.
I mean, who the fuck praises Saddam Hussein? Michael Moore is like "Whoa dude, that's a little much".
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Like, seriously. The fudgeing ineptitude. To fudge up what should be a chip shot put on the day Hillary was raked over the coals for her "extreme ineptitude", and rather than talk about that with any kind of coherency, you go and praise Saddam motherfudgeing Hussein??? And not only that, do so on the basis of some completely anti-factual horseshoot? Like, the exact opposite is true. He literally funded terrorists and their families. I guess he thinks the Kurds were terrorists? Because they were brown?
How the fudge do you even do that unless you're a plant intentionally trying to tank the Republican party? How? Explain it to me. If this were a movie, it would be too ridiculously over the top and unbelievable.
He has praised Kim Jong Un (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-gotta-give/story?id=36198345), -gadhafi-saddam-hussein/]Muammar Gadafi (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/25/politics/donald-trump-moammar[/url), Vladimir Putin, the Chinese dictator responsible for [url=http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/trump-calls-tiananmen-square-protests-riot-defends-calling-crackdown-strong-n536761]Tienanmen Square (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/putin-trump-bromance/421242/), and now Saddam Hussein.
I mean, who the fudge praises Saddam Hussein? Michael Moore is like "Whoa dude, that's a little much".
It boggles the mind. It's like he's trying not to win.
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Like, seriously. The fucking ineptitude. To fuck up what should be a chip shot put on the day Hillary was raked over the coals for her "extreme ineptitude", and rather than talk about that with any kind of coherency, you go and praise Saddam motherfucking Hussein??? And not only that, do so on the basis of some completely anti-factual horseshit? Like, the exact opposite is true. He literally funded terrorists and their families. I guess he thinks the Kurds were terrorists? Because they were brown?
How the fuck do you even do that unless you're a plant intentionally trying to tank the Republican party? How? Explain it to me. If this were a movie, it would be too ridiculously over the top and unbelievable.
He has praised Kim Jong Un (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-gotta-give/story?id=36198345), Muammar Gadafi (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/25/politics/donald-trump-moammar-gadhafi-saddam-hussein/), Vladimir Putin, the Chinese dictator responsible for [url=http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/trump-calls-tiananmen-square-protests-riot-defends-calling-crackdown-strong-n536761]Tienanmen Square (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/putin-trump-bromance/421242/), and now Saddam Hussein.
I mean, who the fuck praises Saddam Hussein? Michael Moore is like "Whoa dude, that's a little much".
He's not glib. He's not polished. He doesn't do poli-speak.
But what he was trying to say is that before we started fucking around over there and overthrowing governments, we weren't fighting constant world-wide bombings and acts of terror from ISIS. Or as our kenyan imam is fond of saying, ISIL.
Maybe those two guys were assholes to their own people. But maybe that's none of our business.
I'm not defending him, but I think that's what he was saying. The devil you know may be better than the hell you don't. That entire region is LESS stable than it was before baby Bush took out after Sadaam for 9/11 (when that wasn't really his fault) and then our dear Muslim leader and his eurowhore secretary of state used the 'hunt for bin Laden' to advance extreme islamic agendas throughout the region.
Ignoring his hyperbole for a moment, tell me whether we're better or worse off in Iraq, Libya, etc. after eight years of Isbamalic tomfuckery over there.
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Regardless of how many of you feel, I think that Sadaam had a really nice mustache.
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The devil you know may be better than the hell you don't.
So you prefer Hillary over Trump? You have repeatedly stated that the devil you don't know is better than the one you do in regards to the presidential choices. Weird how your arguments and principles shift and twist into pretzels to fit your narrative.
And do you not get tired of what you "think" Trump meant through his ignoramus ramblings? How the hell anyone can think that shit for brains is fit to be the leader of the free world is beyond my grasp.
What I gather from your post though is you and Trump are out-Michael Mooreing Michael Moore by saying that Bush is evil and poor Saddam Hussein was just minding his own business and din do nuffin when mean ol Bush came in and fucked everything up. That about right?
What a difference a decade and a half makes...
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You forgot to add stupid or liar, homo or cocksucker.
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So you prefer Hillary over Trump? You have repeatedly stated that the devil you don't know is better than the one you do in regards to the presidential choices. Weird how your arguments and principles shift and twist into pretzels to fit your narrative.
And do you not get tired of what you "think" Trump meant through his ignoramus ramblings? How the hell anyone can think that shit for brains is fit to be the leader of the free world is beyond my grasp.
What I gather from your post though is you and Trump are out-Michael Mooreing Michael Moore by saying that Bush is evil and poor Saddam Hussein was just minding his own business and din do nuffin when mean ol Bush came in and fucked everything up. That about right?
What a difference a decade and a half makes...
Two simple words, Chiz.
may be
The devil you know MAY BE better than the one you don't.
In the case of Clinton, I know enough about the nature of her evil to be absolutely sure that there is no devil worse than her. There's no "may" there.
No shift. No change. Consistent (as always).
Don't think Bush was evil. Just that in hindsight our efforts in that region haven't made things better. Maybe they would have if we'd ended it after Sadaam was out. But EVERYTHING the Muslim in chief and his lackeys have done have destabilized the region to the point that it may no longer be salvageable. They've strengthened and emboldened the radicals. They've legitimized them. Every bit of their foreign policy is wrong.
Therefore "shit for brains" is more fit than lying sack of shit whore.
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And do you not get tired of what you "think" Trump meant through his ignoramus ramblings? How the hell anyone can think that shit for brains is fit to be the leader of the free world is beyond my grasp.
Of course I get tired of it. I also get tired of your rants every time he says something remotely out of the safe speak line.
But I'm willing to put blind hate aside and consider where he might be coming from. He's a boss. Bosses admire other bosses. They respect their ability to lead. Some bosses rule by fear. Others by compassion. I'm sure he sees things about Putin and the rest that look bossish to him. But whatever.
Nothing he's said is any dumber or any worse than what she does. I'm no more tired of looking for positives in his garbage than those who defend her are of going "well she lied, she got people killed, she committed perjury, she committed treason, she's a thief, she's corrupt and she's hateful but......hey, she's supposedly a woman so let's ignore the rest and try that"'
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Truth is, our intervention in Iraq was based off lies. And hurt the region more than it helped it. Fact. No debating that. That also doesn't mean saddam was a good guy. But it does mean between him and Iran and the other western countries over there, that there was a balance that kept itself in check for the most part. Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds. It's a delicate balance. And it was as balanced as could be circa 2001.
Yes Al Qaeda was on the loose over there in the region but that had nothing to do with the tribal balance of the sovereign countries of the Middle East. Now they are loose over there along with Hezbollah, the Muslim brotherhood, Isis not to mention all of the heads of state and govts over there crumbling now. We destabilized that entire region. And whether you paint saddam as a good or bad guy, that's the simple truth.
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I can't tell if I am reading Kaos' or Chizad's posts anymore. Mommy make it stop.
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I can't tell if I am reading Kaos' or Chizad's posts anymore. Mommy make it stop.
Their they're. It'll be alright.
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I can't tell if I am reading Kaos' or Chizad's posts anymore. Mommy make it stop.
The wrong Chizad got the reprimand and run off, imo.
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He's a boss. Bosses admire other bosses.
Makes sense of your support, at least.
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Makes sense of your support, at least.
Do we really have to do this again?
My "support" is based on one simple thing. He's not her. That's it. I just saw earlier than most here that his hurricane wasn't going to be stopped by a feckless and weak republican slate.
It's not so much about how people can or will govern any longer. It's about appearance. Obama won because he was brown, people thought we needed a brown president, it made them feel good about their predjudices to vote for somebody with a Muslim name and he spouted cheap platitudes. He was never qualified for the position. He's an ineffective leader and his entire philosophy is anti American.
People are supporting her because it's "time for a woman" and the only opposition she had on in the primaries was the crazy doc from back to the future. She can't put THAT nutty geezer away. Any legit competition on that side annihilates her. But everybody was scared of her murderous wrath.
Ted Cruz might be a great president. We will never know. Not because he wasn't qualified but because he looked and sounded like Mr Rogers on ambien. He could not convey his conviction without looking like a disapproving gay youth pastor. It killed him.
Rubio might have been fantastic. We won't know (yet). He wasn't really running. He was testing the waters for 2020. And he looked like an angry little kid next to Trump.
Carson had no charisma. Good ideas. No energy.
Kasich? He and Sleepy Johnson are cut from the same rumpled cloth.
That left Trump. Even the dumb things he says he says with conviction. He's not going to issue apologies. He's not going to straddle some imaginary middle line. Right or wrong That whole "fuck you" brashness strikes a chord with a whole lot of people who feel their voice is drowned out by a minority chorus of blacklivesmatter, transgender, lgbt, immigrants, Muslims etc.
I saw pretty quickly he was going to win. I'm for anybody over her. So I had to reconcile myself to it. And have.
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I saw pretty quickly he was going to win. I'm for anybody over her. So I had to reconcile myself to it. And have.
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Couldn't you paint it blue, and then change the name to Clinton, though?
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Cute balls. Bet you never heard that before.
However.... That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
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However.... That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
You're right. So let's look at how this does work.
I think this election will come down to 8 states, 4 of which will carry the most weight.
FL - 29 electoral votes
PA - 20 electoral votes
OH - 18 electoral votes
VA - 13 electoral votes
CO - 9 electoral votes
NV - 6 electoral votes
IA - 6 electoral votes
NH - 4 electoral votes
I think it's safe to say that Clinton goes in to this election with a solid 227 electoral votes, while Trump goes in with 206. Who has the easiest route to 270? I know you don't believe in polling data, but I think if you take the RCP averages it does give you a good sense for how the electorate is trending.
FL - Clinton + 4% (as of 6/29)
PA - Clinton + 4% (as of 6/28)
OH - Clinton + 4% (as of 6/28)
VA - Clinton + 3% (as of 6/16)
CO - Clinton + 1% (as of 6/26)
NV - no recent polling data
IA - Clinton + 14% (as of 6/30)
NH - Clinton + 5% (as of 6/29)
Granted, most of these are close to the margin of error, but it's not a good trend to see Trump not winning one of those states. Yes it's a long time until November and I realize the email scandal may sway these numbers (as they were mostly from the end of June). But in looking at the data, when is Trump going to start going after Hillary like he promised? When is he going to start actually campaigning and quit spewing off mindless blather about how great Saddam was at killing terrorists (which coincidentally took a lot of the media attention off of Hillary's email scandal).
Inquiring minds want to know.
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You're right. So let's look at how this does work.
I think this election will come down to 8 states, 4 of which will carry the most weight.
FL - 29 electoral votes
PA - 20 electoral votes
OH - 18 electoral votes
VA - 13 electoral votes
CO - 9 electoral votes
NV - 6 electoral votes
IA - 6 electoral votes
NH - 4 electoral votes
I think it's safe to say that Clinton goes in to this election with a solid 227 electoral votes, while Trump goes in with 206. Who has the easiest route to 270? I know you don't believe in polling data, but I think if you take the RCP averages it does give you a good sense for how the electorate is trending.
FL - Clinton + 4% (as of 6/29)
PA - Clinton + 4% (as of 6/28)
OH - Clinton + 4% (as of 6/28)
VA - Clinton + 3% (as of 6/16)
CO - Clinton + 1% (as of 6/26)
NV - no recent polling data
IA - Clinton + 14% (as of 6/30)
NH - Clinton + 5% (as of 6/29)
Granted, most of these are close to the margin of error, but it's not a good trend to see Trump not winning one of those states. Yes it's a long time until November and I realize the email scandal may sway these numbers (as they were mostly from the end of June). But in looking at the data, when is Trump going to start going after Hillary like he promised? When is he going to start actually campaigning and quit spewing off mindless blather about how great Saddam was at killing terrorists (which coincidentally took a lot of the media attention off of Hillary's email scandal).
Inquiring minds want to know.
Not disagreeing. It's an uphill climb. But it always was. Nothing new there.
Trump -- despite all his blunders -- remains within striking distance (and in most cases within the margin of error).
He has to win Florida. He's always been the only republican (or fake republican) candidate who had a shot there. I think he could realistically win PA, VA and OH. Colorado? Maybe. Tell you who won't win Colorado. Gary Johnson. But... Chizad's protestations aside, Johnson could take enough votes to deny Trump there.
Trump has a chance. He's, in my mind, the only one who ever did in that side of the board.
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You can say all day there's no overt Nazi symbolism in the meme. You can say there isn't significant Nazi support for Trump. THE NAZIS DISAGREE WITH YOU.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/david-duke-no-way-star-in-trumps-tweet-was-a-sheriffs-star
David Duke: “No Way†Star In Trump’s Tweet Was A Sheriff’s Star
“Of course later the campaign made the excuse, ‘Well, no, that’s like a sheriff’s badge.’ Well, no way, folks. Clinton, money, the most campaign corrupt person.â€
posted on Jul. 5, 2016, at 4:07 p.m.
Andrew Kaczynski
Burt Steel / AP
Prominent white nationalist and former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke on Tuesday dismissed Donald Trump’s explanation of his controversial tweet featuring Hillary Clinton next to a pile of money, a Star of David, and the words the “most corrupt candidate ever.â€
A Trump staffer took the blame for the tweet on Monday evening, saying he found the image via an anti-Clinton Twitter account and believed it was a sheriff’s star, not a Star of David. Duke, however, said on his radio show it was clearly not a sheriff’s star.
“Let’s go to the tweet. The tweet again shows Clinton, it shows a Star of David. Of course later the campaign made the excuse, ‘Well, no, that’s like a sheriff’s badge.’ Well, no way, folks. Clinton, money, the most campaign corrupt person,†said Duke.
Earlier in the broadcast, Duke praised Trump for the tweet, saying his tweet was “all true.â€
“We have situation right now where Trump is being absolutely pummeled for, guess what, posting a tweeting that shows Hillary Clinton with a big — in the midst of thousands of hundred-dollar bills — a big Star of David, and the words ‘the most corrupt candidate ever,’†Duke said. “And Trump tweeted this: ‘Hillary Clinton the most corrupt candidate ever.’ Now of course, the media immediately came out and said that this was ‘anti-Semitic.’ But of course, it’s all true. We’re not talking about something that’s not true.â€
Duke said all the “Jewish extremists†were supporting Clinton.
“So everything in the tweet that Donald Trump retweeted, that his campaign retweeted was absolutely correct,†concluded Duke. “Absolutely right.â€
He said it was important everyone vote for Trump, because even though he wasn’t “strong enough on these issues,†he was the only thing they had against Hillary Clinton.
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David Duke, huh? I think we found someone who rambles on incoherently more than Trump.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/david-duke-no-way-star-in-trumps-tweet-was-a-sheriffs-star
Who. Gives. A. Fuck?
Fake controversy to distract from the systemic corruption that keeps the bitch whore out of prison.
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Truth is, our intervention in Iraq was based off lies. And hurt the region more than it helped it. Fact. No debating that. That also doesn't mean saddam was a good guy. But it does mean between him and Iran and the other western countries over there, that there was a balance that kept itself in check for the most part. Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds. It's a delicate balance. And it was as balanced as could be circa 2001.
Yes Al Qaeda was on the loose over there in the region but that had nothing to do with the tribal balance of the sovereign countries of the Middle East. Now they are loose over there along with Hezbollah, the Muslim brotherhood, Isis not to mention all of the heads of state and govts over there crumbling now. We destabilized that entire region. And whether you paint saddam as a good or bad guy, that's the simple truth.
This is a coherent statement that any actual politician would or could have made.
That is not what Trump said.
He said that Saddam "killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn't read them the rights. They didn't talk. They were terrorists. Over." End quote.
That is Trump in nutshell. Completely idiotic. Articulated like a retarded third grader. And completely and utterly factually inaccurate.
You tried to put words in his mouth to make him sound completely moronic.
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Also, thanks to his recent doubling down on praise for Saddam, I caught this praise for him from October and December that I somehow missed.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-praises-saddam-hussein-s-approach-terrorism-again-n604411
This isn't the first time Trump has cast the brutal dictator in a positive light — or called Iraq an Ivy League locale for aspiring terrorists. Throughout the primaries Trump glossed over Hussein's violent history in favor of what he viewed as a more stable Middle East ruled by Saddam's viciousness.
In an October exclusive with NBC's Chuck Todd, Trump asserted that the Middle East would be better off today if Moammar Gadhafi of Libya and Saddam Hussein were still in power. "It's not even a contest," Trump told Meet the Press. Trump continued to push this idea at a rally in Franklin, Tennessee, telling the crowd that despite Hussein's "vicious" rule in Iraq "there were no terrorists in Iraq" while he ruled.
"You know what he used to do to terrorists?" Trump polled the Tennessee crowd. "A one day trial and shoot him…and the one day trial usually lasted five minutes, right? There was no terrorism then."
Trump didn't just praise Hussein for keeping terrorists at bay, but seemed to tacitly accept the dictator's use of chemical weapons. During a December rally in Hilton Head, South Carolina, Trump took a cavalier attitude toward Iraq's use of chemical weapons under Saddam.
"Saddam Hussein throws a little gas, everyone goes crazy, 'oh he's using gas!'" Trump said. Describing the way stability was maintained in the region during that time, Trump said "they go back, forth, it's the same. And they were stabilized."
Trump lamented how the United States intervened in the region during a speech in South Carolina late last year. "if you go after one or the other, in this case Iraq, you're going to destabilize the Middle East. That's what's going to happen," he said.
Praising Saddam for "one day trials" that "usually lasted five minutes" before he would "shoot him". And the attempted genocide of Kurds was "throwing a little gas, and everyone goes crazy".
:facepalm:
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I threw a little gas at my wife the other night and she went crazy.
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This is a coherent statement that any actual politician would or could have made.
That is not what Trump said.
He said that Saddam "killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn't read them the rights. They didn't talk. They were terrorists. Over." End quote.
That is Trump in nutshell. Completely idiotic. Articulated like a retarded third grader. And completely and utterly factually inaccurate.
You tried to put words in his mouth to make him sound completely moronic.
I'm not disagreeing with you. Just saying that it's more complicated than what trump said. Technically on a couple of those things he is right. Was saddam a good guy? Hell no. But did he kill a lot of bad guys so that we didn't have to? Absolutely. Even though he was one himself. He was considered the lesser of 3 evils. Now the greater of those evils has reared its head without him there. And other vacuums created by our own intervention by both Bush and Obama.
Trumps biggest crime here is having no idea how to articulate what I just stated. I would like think that is what he meant. But can't say for sure.
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Also, thanks to his recent doubling down on praise for Saddam, I caught this praise for him from October and December that I somehow missed.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-praises-saddam-hussein-s-approach-terrorism-again-n604411
Praising Saddam for "one day trials" that "usually lasted five minutes" before he would "shoot him". And the attempted genocide of Kurds was "throwing a little gas, and everyone goes crazy".
:facepalm:
Believe it or not, we created the Kurd mess and directly caused it to happen in the early 90s.
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Believe it or not, we created the Kurd mess and directly caused it to happen in the early 90s.
What does that have to do what he said?
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What does that have to do what he said?
Because he mentioned the gassing and so did you. It rolls up to a bigger point I think he's trying to make about our intervention in the region. The Crux of what I THINK he is saying is just that. It may not be popular to say in GOP circles but going into that region like we did only fucked it up worse. Saddam being the enemy of our enemy and screwing up that dynamic and the gassing of the Kurds (which we actually caused not saddam) are just two examples of that. I know what he is trying to say. He's just really terrible at conveying his point. Allz I'm sayin smalls.
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You're killin' me Smallz.
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Because he mentioned the gassing and so did you. It rolls up to a bigger point I think he's trying to make about our intervention in the region. The Crux of what I THINK he is saying is just that. It may not be popular to say in GOP circles but going into that region like we did only fucked it up worse. Saddam being the enemy of our enemy and screwing up that dynamic and the gassing of the Kurds (which we actually caused not saddam) are just two examples of that. I know what he is trying to say. He's just really terrible at conveying his point. Allz I'm sayin smalls.
That's not what he said. That's what you say he's "trying to say".
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That's not what he said. That's what you say he's "trying to say".
Come on. Seriously. GH is spot on. This is a prime example of Trump's inability...or his handler's inability to get him to convey his message in a way that people won't use it against him. He's 100% right in what he's trying to say but this is just another in the 100's of poorly worded attempts to address this or any issue. Another reason why he's not fit to be POTUS.
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That's not what he said. That's what you say he's "trying to say".
It's what I think he's trying to convey, yes. He just sucks at doing that.
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I threw a little gas at my wife the other night and she went crazy.
I know, right! She hates that. I mean....really?
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Also, thanks to his recent doubling down on praise for Saddam, I caught this praise for him from October and December that I somehow missed.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-praises-saddam-hussein-s-approach-terrorism-again-n604411
Praising Saddam for "one day trials" that "usually lasted five minutes" before he would "shoot him". And the attempted genocide of Kurds was "throwing a little gas, and everyone goes crazy".
:facepalm:
W.H.O. G.I.V.E.S. A. F.U.C.K. ???
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W.H.O. G.I.V.E.S. A. F.U.C.K. ???
Who gives a fuck that the man you want for president is saying fuck the constitution, we should execute people in 5 minutes, and maybe "throw a little gas around", NBD?
Only every sane person.
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Who gives a fuck that the man you want for president is saying fuck the constitution, we should execute people in 5 minutes, and maybe "throw a little gas around", NBD?
Only every sane person.
So it's cool for somebody to sit on death row for 20+ years and THEN be executed? What purpose does that serve?
You need to get a serious grip on yourself. Your hysterical reaction to everything Trump says makes you look like a stark raving lunatic and perhaps a little dangerous.
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So it's cool for somebody to sit on death row for 20+ years and THEN be executed? What purpose does that serve?
You need to get a serious grip on yourself. Your hysterical reaction to everything Trump says makes you look like a stark raving lunatic and perhaps a little dangerous.
Barry and his ilk are causing a civil war. Like token said, trump says dumb shit at times. But it just seems minute right now compared to what's going currently.
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Barry and his ilk are causing a civil war. Like token said, trump says dumb shit at times. But it just seems minute right now compared to what's going currently.
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So it's cool for somebody to sit on death row for 20+ years and THEN be executed? What purpose does that serve?
Due.
Process.
When sanctioning state murder, err on the side of caution.
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Due.
Process.
When sanctioning state murder, err on the side of caution.
speedy.
Trial.
Save the taxpayer when taking an eye for an eye.
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speedy.
Trial.
Save the taxpayer when taking an eye for an eye.
Prime example down here in an article published Wednesday. A guy in jail awaiting a new trial for capital murder was appointed a new attorney. This is the 9th year this has been going on. Obviously, due process is of paramount importance in this country, but 3 hots and a cot for 9 years without resolution is reedonkulous.
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Due.
Process.
When sanctioning state murder, err on the side of caution.
I deem a 5 min trial due process. There. See how easy that was? Folks in DC do this all the time.
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I deem a 5 min trial due process. There. See how easy that was? Folks in DC do this all the time.
I further deem execution on the courthouse steps immediately after sentence is passed to be due process and neither cruel nor unusual.
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I further deem execution on the courthouse steps immediately after sentence is passed to be due process and neither cruel nor unusual.
Had no idea you were an activist judge. John Roberts... Is that you?
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I further deem execution on the courthouse steps immediately after sentence is passed to be due process and neither cruel nor unusual.
It's not if they do it a lot.
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So it's cool for somebody to sit on death row for 20+ years and THEN be executed? What purpose does that serve?
You need to get a serious grip on yourself. Your hysterical reaction to everything Trump says makes you look like a stark raving lunatic and perhaps a little dangerous.
But. But. Trump said something stupid...
I need my safe place!
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Vanity Fair. Horrified that Trump could possibly win, bashing him by noting that he lies "much more" than Hillary (a lie in and of itself) and crediting that bellowing whore as a "statesman" nevertheless hits on some points that polls just don't take into account. This is an older piece, but still makes valid points.
Over the long term, demographic trends favor Democrats, but people vote in the near term. For now, a Mitt-Romney-low level of support among non-whites and a modest increase in the share of white votes would be enough to put Trump in the White House. Freeze the 2012 results and increase the turnout and vote share of only non-college-educated whites by six points, for example, and the results go Republican.
After the election of 2012, we the saw the emergence of a narrative that the Latino vote had been decisive. But this was a myth born of sentiment more than hard numbers. Romney would have required a 40-point gain among Latino voters to swing the election his way, something that was never going to happen. By contrast, a 4-point gain among whites would have had the same effect. Hispanic voters are concentrated heavily in a few states, enough so that California is solid blue, but those states do not include most current swing states.
The battleground states in this election are shaping up to be Florida, Ohio, and possibly Michigan and Pennsylvania. The latter three are states with large white working-class populations and percentages of Latinos at 4.6 percent, 3.3 percent, and 6.6 percent, respectively—all well below the national number of about 17 percent. The exception, Florida, is 23 percent Latino but only 3.5 percent Mexican-American, the group directly insulted by Trump. Twice as many Latinos in Florida are Cuban, and nearly half would vote Republican in a normal year.
Democrats are hopeful that Trump’s rhetoric about Mexico sending its problems to the United States will spur outraged Latinos into the voting booth, and reports suggest this is starting to happen. But even if the spike is large in percentage terms, it’s unlikely to be decisive, because Latino turnout numbers are low (under 48 percent in 2012) and Latino populations are distributed in non-swing states.
Then there’s the black vote. Slate’s Jamelle Bouie has argued that both black and Latino turnout will stay steady or rise in 2016, with Trump doing even worse among African Americans than Romney. Working in Trump’s favor, though, is the fact that Romney did so abysmally among African Americans in 2012—winning only 6 percent of their votes—that Trump has almost nowhere to go but up, and if he goes down, the drop isn’t far. Trump’s focus on immigration and trade is theoretically attractive to a subset of African Americans, many of whom have been negatively affected by both, so there might even be an opening for Trump there. If he makes a serious effort to win their votes and shed his David Duke baggage—pretty much the dumbest suitcase he could have picked up, but Trump is Trump—he might have a chance at winning over an increased African-American vote share, or at least a black voter who isn’t Ben Carson. Again, Trump has little to lose.
This actually goes back to the whole "Republicans better diversify" argument. If you look at the realities presented here, diversification isn't the answer. It's getting the core back.
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Oh my lord.
As Obama panders and patronizes in Dallas, the duplicitous democratic whore embraces Sanders socialist platform in order to suck him off and cater to the loser entitled class.
We are fucked.
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Oh my lord.
As Obama panders and patronizes in Dallas, the duplicitous democratic whore embraces Sanders socialist platform in order to suck him off and cater to the loser entitled class.
We are fucked.
I saw a poll on Fox News stating Trump with a lead in Florida and even in Ohio now. So maybe...just maybe...
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Working out of town in a different timezone. So I'm awake at weird hours. Flipping the channels and I've had a chance to watch a little MSNBC and CNN. It's blatantly offensive in the way Trump is characterized and Hillary is deified.
I'm completely appalled at the unrestrained bias and am even more convinced that we need Trump or somebody like him. What those two networks are doing is disgraceful.
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I saw a poll on Fox News stating Trump with a lead in Florida and even in Ohio now. So maybe...just maybe...
Rasmussen a few days ago. And Quinnipiac yesterday. Both had about the same numbers and were consistent.
As I've said before Scott Rasmussen is pretty good at nailing these things. And Quinnipiac usually doesn't favor GOP candidates well. So that said I would say the fact both of those showing a swing to trump is legit.
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Working out of town in a different timezone. So I'm awake at weird hours. Flipping the channels and I've had a chance to watch a little MSNBC and CNN. It's blatantly offensive in the way Trump is characterized and Hillary is deified.
I'm completely appalled at the unrestrained bias and am even more convinced that we need Trump or somebody like him. What those two networks are doing is disgraceful.
I don't care what side of the aisle someone sits on, what Trump did with Ginsberg was an absolute clinic. Proverbially he made her open her mouth and remove all doubt of what many perceived for years. She fell right into his trap. Even Dems and the NYT are criticizing her for it, since she's a judge and what she said technically violates their code of conduct on being impartial in general and during elections. And she's had to walk it back and apologize. Absolute brilliant play by Trump.
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I don't care what side of the aisle someone sits on, what Trump did with Ginsberg was an absolute clinic. Proverbially he made her open her mouth and remove all doubt of what many perceived for years. She fell right into his trap. Even Dems and the NYT are criticizing her for it, since she's a judge and what she said technically violates their code of conduct on being impartial in general and during elections. And she's had to walk it back and apologize. Absolute brilliant play by Trump.
She should dismiss herself from the court since she has proven incapable of being unbiased.
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She should dismiss herself from the court since she has proven incapable of being unbiased.
And whether it happens or not that drum pounding will continue for her to do so for a while. In the end it will help trump regardless. It was really a brilliant play by him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InD7NmdmEVQ
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Melania Trump will be the first First Lady not born in the United States since John Quincy Adams's wife in 1825. Imagine if Obama's wife was born overseas and had that heavy accent.
Also, imagine if Obama's wife said half of what she said that speech.
Actually you don't have to imagine. She plagiarized the shit out of Michelle Obama. Watch the video.
http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522
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Melania Trump will be the first First Lady not born in the United States since John Quincy Adams's wife in 1825. Imagine if Obama's wife was born overseas and had that heavy accent.
Also, imagine if Obama's wife said half of what she said that speech.
Actually you don't have to imagine. She plagiarized the shit out of Michelle Obama. Watch the video.
http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522
:facepalm:
And now there are more of you. Congratulations.
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Melania Trump will be the first First Lady not born in the United States since John Quincy Adams's wife in 1825. Imagine if Obama's wife was born overseas and had that heavy accent.
Also, imagine if Obama's wife said half of what she said that speech.
Actually you don't have to imagine. She plagiarized the shit out of Michelle Obama. Watch the video.
http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522
Also threw in a Rick Roll, claiming that Trump would never give up or let you down.
Speech writer must hate Trump.
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@TheAuburner
The GOP is the 3-8 college football team who almost looks forward to the impending blowout from their rival just so the coaches can be fired
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Melania Trump will be the first First Lady not born in the United States since John Quincy Adams's wife in 1825. Imagine if Obama's wife was born overseas and had that heavy accent.
Also, imagine if Obama's wife said half of what she said that speech.
Actually you don't have to imagine. She plagiarized the shit out of Michelle Obama. Watch the video.
http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522
Imagine what the world would be like if we could live together as one.
I like to imagine spanking Melania.
Imagine yourself being a straight man. That's not easy if I try.
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Melania Trump will be the first First Lady not born in the United States since John Quincy Adams's wife in 1825. Imagine if Obama's wife was born overseas and had that heavy accent.
Also, imagine if Obama's wife said half of what she said that speech.
Actually you don't have to imagine. She plagiarized the shit out of Michelle Obama. Watch the video.
http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522
Those are about as generic of words as you could get...
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Those are about as generic of words as you could get...
Those words are about as generic as one could obtain.
Say no to plagiarism.
And I'm tired of you people ripping off my material on here. I am going to start calling people out if it doesn't cease.
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Those words are about as generic as one could obtain.
Say no to plagiarism.
And I'm tired of you people ripping off my material on here. I am going to start calling people out if it doesn't cease.
The University of Alabama called, they've already claimed the rights to cease and desist. Please take that out of your vocabulary.
Thanks.
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The University of Alabama called, they've already claimed the rights to cease and desist. Please take that out of your vocabulary.
Thanks.
I'll need you to back date that request.
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Saw another thing on USAToday, which has become BashTrumpToday lately. It's a piece titled "Why people are voting for Trump" as if that's the most mind-boggling, astonishing thing anyone could ever consider.
Better question?
Why would anyone even consider voting for her given what we know about her character, integrity, morality and capacity to lead? Give me a reason she's a better option. Just one.
He's a liar? She patented the behavior. She's perjured herself in testimony and nobody squeaks.
He's never been in politics? She has, and she stinks.
He says outlandish things? She never says anything that isn't calculated or an outright lie. You have no idea what she really thinks on any subject.
On and on and on.
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Saw another thing on USAToday, which has become BashTrumpToday lately. It's a piece titled "Why people are voting for Trump" as if that's the most mind-boggling, astonishing thing anyone could ever consider.
Better question?
Why would anyone even consider voting for her given what we know about her character, integrity, morality and capacity to lead? Give me a reason she's a better option. Just one.
He's a liar? She patented the behavior. She's perjured herself in testimony and nobody squeaks.
He's never been in politics? She has, and she stinks.
He says outlandish things? She never says anything that isn't calculated or an outright lie. You have no idea what she really thinks on any subject.
On and on and on.
I don't know if you are comfortable discussing but I'm curious to know if you have made your decision regarding who you plan to vote for?
Are you waiting until after the debates to decide?
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I don't know if you are comfortable discussing but I'm curious to know if you have made your decision regarding who you plan to vote for?
Are you waiting until after the debates to decide?
You obviously missed the weeks on end he had this as his avatar pic.
(https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/11174876_903334636389733_2191364501962816506_n.png?w=740)
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Why do you hate the military?
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/288546-poll-libertarian-johnson-beating-trump-clinton-among-active-duty-troops
Poll: Libertarian Johnson beating Trump, Clinton among active troops
Moriah Ratner
By Kristina Wong - 07/20/16 03:35 PM EDT
Military troops favor Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson for president over Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, according to a new survey.
Johnson garnered 38.7 percent of the active duty vote, versus 30.9 for Trump, and 14.1 for Clinton, according to the survey, which was conducted via the popular military personality Doctrine Man.
Although the survey was not a scientific poll with a margin of error, it provides a snapshot of the preferences of about 3,500 active duty, reservists, retired and former members of the military and their family members, 95.7 percent of which were registered voters.
Among all services except for the Navy, Johnson performed better than Trump and Clinton.
Members of the active duty Army preferred Johnson at 35.4 percent. Trump came in second at 31.4 percent, and Clinton at 15.3 percent.
Among the active duty Marines, an overwhelming 44.1 percent chose Johnson, 27.1 percent chose Trump, and 12.7 percent chose Clinton.
The majority of the active duty Air Force respondents chose Johnson at 39 percent, but Trump next at 29.9 percent and Clinton at 12.9 percent.
Trump ranked the top choice for active duty members of the Navy, at 32.4 percent, versus 31.7 percent for Johnson and 22.9 percent for Clinton.
Despite Clinton's underwhelming performance among active duty troops in the poll, their family members preferred Clinton at 29.4 percent to 27.5 percent for Trump. Johnson came in third, at 24.5 percent.
Trump came out on top among members of the military who retired after serving at least 20 years.
Retirees preferred Trump at 37.4 percent, compared to 32.2 percent for Johnson, and only 11 percent for Hillary Clinton.
However, when former members of the military who served fewer than 20 years were included, Johnson came in first, at 36.1 percent, while Hillary Clinton garnered 12.6 percent.
The new survey underscores the unpopularity of both Trump and Clinton, something that was also reflected in a recent Military Times survey.
Troops have found themselves at the center of several heated campaign debates, with many of them sparked by Trump.
Trump has said Vietnam prisoner of war Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is "not a war hero," and has said that if he ordered troops to reinstitute waterboarding, they would do it. Trump has also called for killing terrorists' families.
Trump has also railed against the Department of Veteran Affairs, suggested Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl should be executed for leaving his post.
The attention to troops this campaign cycle has prompted the nation's top military officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford, to remind troops not to politicize the military during the elections.
"What we must collectively guard against is allowing our institution to become politicized, or even perceived as being politicized, by how we conduct ourselves during engagements with the media, the public, or in open or social forums," he wrote in the July issue of Joint Force Quarterly, a military academic journal.
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Gary Johnson likes open borders.
Discuss.
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Didn't realize that 14.1% of the military was LGBT.
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Didn't realize that 14.1% of the military was LGBT.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/gays_military-7496941_zpsbfebxvuf.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/gays_military-7496941_zpsbfebxvuf.jpg.html)
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Didn't realize that 14.1% of the military was LGBT.
I am more amazed that 44.1% of the Marines love johnson. They seem so rough and tough.
Not that they can't be both.
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Has Ted Cruz ever looked like a bigger namby pamby pussy? He destroyed his career at the convention.
Idiot.
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Has Ted Cruz ever looked like a bigger namby pamby pussy? He destroyed his career at the convention.
Idiot.
What exactly did he say that makes you think that? 1 thing?
I saw him congratulate Trump and not say one negative thing about him. In fact he was nicer than I would have been to a man who insulted his family and constantly called him a liar for two months. That usually leaves someone black and blue.
This is another example of a media instigated non issue. When telling the electorate to vote their conscience and conviction becomes a despicable act, then we are in trouble as a country. If people in the audience were already voting their conscience with Trump then why any issue? If they are not voting their conscience, then that's THEIR issue not Cruz's.
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If anyone cares to read it:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7665/exclusive-cruz-camp-trump-campaign-approved-speech-ben-shapiro
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What exactly did he say that makes you think that? 1 thing?
I saw him congratulate Trump and not say one negative thing about him. In fact he was nicer than I would have been to a man who insulted his family and constantly called him a liar for two months. That usually leaves someone black and blue.
This is another example of a media instigated non issue. When telling the electorate to vote their conscience and conviction becomes a despicable act, then we are in trouble as a country. If people in the audience were already voting their conscience with Trump then why any issue? If they are not voting their conscience, then that's THEIR issue not Cruz's.
Sorry. That is utter BS. He should not have asked to speak if he was not going to outright endorse Trump. It is not a media issue. Many republicans are a bit upset (even cruzbots). And it effectively killed his future chances.
Newt picked up his slack though.
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Sorry. That is utter BS. He should not have asked to speak if he was not going to outright endorse Trump. It is not a media issue. Many republicans are a bit upset (even cruzbots). And it effectively killed his future chances.
Newt picked up his slack though.
I'm glad he stood on principle. Although I'm sure if Trump called your wife ugly and accused your dad of taking part in JFK's assassination you'd be totally cool with it.
He's gambling that Trump will get waxed this election and that 4 years from now the Trump brand will be considered toxic waste. It's a safe bet.
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What exactly did he say that makes you think that? 1 thing?
I saw him congratulate Trump and not say one negative thing about him. In fact he was nicer than I would have been to a man who insulted his family and constantly called him a liar for two months. That usually leaves someone black and blue.
This is another example of a media instigated non issue. When telling the electorate to vote their conscience and conviction becomes a despicable act, then we are in trouble as a country. If people in the audience were already voting their conscience with Trump then why any issue? If they are not voting their conscience, then that's THEIR issue not Cruz's.
Here is my problem. It was the perfect opportunity for Cruz to step up and bridge the two factions together. Instead, he goes the "vote your conscience" route.
He could've focused on what's best for the country right now rather than considering his own future or the GOP's future.
And Trump's people share in the responsibility for even agreeing to let him speak and only reading over it supposedly 2 hours before.
Kaisich and Bush are even worse. At least Cruz showed up.
I think that most of us who are voting Trump on here are doing so because he's our only option. But these guys are too self-absorbed to fall on the sword and do what is best. Too much ego and too many beefs at stake.
But, Trump helped create a lot of that and now he reaps what he's sown.
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I'm glad he stood on principle. Although I'm sure if Trump called your wife ugly and accused your dad of taking part in JFK's assassination you'd be totally cool with it.
He's gambling that Trump will get waxed this election and that 4 years from now the Trump brand will be considered toxic waste. It's a safe bet.
The principle of what? Reneging on your word to support the nominee?
Nice hypocrisy.
And in 4 years, Cruz will NOT live this down. Many, even those in his camp, have come forward as being disgusted at him.
And Cruz (and his camp) chose to play a dirty game. He got beat at his own game. Not a man, but a weasel.
I had no issue with him up until now. But he definitely screwed himself with his selective principles!
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It's pretty clear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7t6I4Vrf2M
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I'm glad he stood on principle. Although I'm sure if Trump called your wife ugly and accused your dad of taking part in JFK's assassination you'd be totally cool with it.
He's gambling that Trump will get waxed this election and that 4 years from now the Trump brand will be considered toxic waste. It's a safe bet.
I'm sorry to do this but...
Principle? :taunt:
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Sorry. That is utter BS. He should not have asked to speak if he was not going to outright endorse Trump. It is not a media issue. Many republicans are a bit upset (even cruzbots). And it effectively killed his future chances.
Newt picked up his slack though.
You need a fact check. He was asked to speak. And his speech was approved by both camps. He never was going to endorse. The non endorsement outrage is all fabricated bullshit. The non endorsement was known.
And if you didn't get the gist of his speech at a high level myopic view, then you are seriously lost on his one. You don't just get to call it BS when you are ignorant to it all.
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The principle of what? Reneging on your word to support the nominee?
Nice hypocrisy.
And in 4 years, Cruz will NOT live this down. Many, even those in his camp, have come forward as being disgusted at him.
And Cruz (and his camp) chose to play a dirty game. He got beat at his own game. Not a man, but a weasel.
I had no issue with him up until now. But he definitely screwed himself with his selective principles!
Support and endorse are not the same thing.
I do find it ironic that had anyone else but Trump won, trump himself would either be running 3rd party or supporting Hillary. Since he himself took back his pledge. Do you not think that being willing to speak and congratulating the Don is supporting? Besides even if you want to get semantic with it all, circumstances change. Maybe the Don should take a lesson in burning bridges with guys that you may want support from later. Sorry but you just don't insult a guy and his family personally and expect him to grovel at you 45 days later.
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I'm sorry to do this but...
Principle? :taunt:
Sure.
Show me one issue the guy has flipped flopped on. And one thing he has said he would do and hasn't while a senator. Last time I checked he was the only senator willing to use the power of the purse to stop obamacare. Which is a key thing folks on the right hark on constantly (using the power of the purse to stop Obama)
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Support and endorse are not the same thing.
I do find it ironic that had anyone else but Trump won, trump himself would either be running 3rd party or supporting Hillary. Since he himself took back his pledge. Do you not think that being willing to speak and congratulating the Don is supporting? Besides even if you want to get semantic with it all, circumstances change. Maybe the Don should take a lesson in burning bridges with guys that you may want support from later. Sorry but you just don't insult a guy and his family personally and expect him to grovel at you 45 days later.
Totally different scenario. The GOP were not upholding their end of the deal. You know that. Don't be disingenuous.
Cruz got pasted fair and square.
Had Cruz won, I'd be happily voting for him. But he didn't. And the stunt he pulled, well, let's just say that he won't be getting the nomination in the future.
Tit for tat. Cruz and his cruzbots came after Trump and his family first. And lost. Once again, he sounds like a sore loser. That does not go over well in America.
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Totally different scenario. The GOP were not upholding their end of the deal. You know that. Don't be disingenuous.
Cruz got pasted fair and square.
Had Cruz won, I'd be happily voting for him. But he didn't. And the stunt he pulled, well, let's just say that he won't be getting the nomination in the future.
Tit for tat. Cruz and his cruzbots came after Trump and his family first. And lost. Once again, he sounds like a sore loser. That does not go over well in America.
It's not about who won. It's not about who lost.
Listen carefully. When it got down to kasich, trump and cruz - they ALL in fact effectively canceled the pact they had made most likely because they knew it was getting personal and didn't want to be held to it. I get that. I would have too.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/politics/donald-trump-ted-cruz-nominee-pledge/index.html
Cruz was also asked to speak. He did not want to endorse for personal reasons. So they asked 2 things of him in order to speak: to congratulate trump and to not speak negatively about him in his speech. The Cruz camp was ok with that. The trump camp was ok with that. They've known this for four days now. Manafort approved the speech. It's seriously a non issue (the non endorsement). People are getting way too bent out of shape on the "conscience" statement. You should already be voting your conscience. What is the big deal? The only reason anyone is up in arms over all this is because they buy the narrative that this was some kind of "shocking speech!!! The outrage!!"
I don't know why any of this is so hard to understand.
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Support and endorse are not the same thing.
I do find it ironic that had anyone else but Trump won, trump himself would either be running 3rd party or supporting Hillary. Since he himself took back his pledge. Do you not think that being willing to speak and congratulating the Don is supporting? Besides even if you want to get semantic with it all, circumstances change. Maybe the Don should take a lesson in burning bridges with guys that you may want support from later. Sorry but you just don't insult a guy and his family personally and expect him to grovel at you 45 days later.
Prove it.
Nobody asked Cruz to grovel. All he had to do was say "we're all in the same boat, against Hillary."
Not "vote your conscience"
Fuckholer.
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Sure.
Show me one issue the guy has flipped flopped on. And one thing he has said he would do and hasn't while a senator. Last time I checked he was the only senator willing to use the power of the purse to stop obamacare. Which is a key thing folks on the right hark on constantly (using the power of the purse to stop Obama)
It wasn't about "principle" It was about hoping Trump fails so he can improve his own political standing by going "nanny-nanny-boo-boo"
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He pretty much admits in this that it was about the personal attacks.
Can't say that I blame him but why even speak at the convention if you're not going to endorse the candidate?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/5790f069c46188823e8b4660/amp?client=safari#
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He pretty much admits in this that it was about the personal attacks.
Can't say that I blame him but why even speak at the convention if you're not going to endorse the candidate?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/5790f069c46188823e8b4660/amp?client=safari#
He had just been looking for the perfect opportunity to use "servile" in one of his speeches.
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He pretty much admits in this that it was about the personal attacks.
Can't say that I blame him but why even speak at the convention if you're not going to endorse the candidate?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/5790f069c46188823e8b4660/amp?client=safari#
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Regardless of who approved it, Cruz should not have spoken last night if it wasn't for the sole purpose of helping get the GOP nominee in office. If he was pissed about Trump's attack on his family, he should have stayed away and said that was the reason. Instead, he got booed off the stage and used that as an excuse afterward. This was solely about him thinking he could kick off his campaign for 2020.
They shouldn't have invited him or let him speak. But there hasn't been anything sane or conventional about Trump's campaign.
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At least the Manchurian Candidate was a secret agent of Moscow.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-proves-hes-a-putin-lapdog/?postshare=4301469113430462
Trump proves he’s a Putin lapdog
By Jennifer Rubin July 21 at 9:45 AM
The most remarkable words Wednesday were not uttered by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.). (Really, is telling people to vote their conscience such a wacky idea?) They came from Donald Trump, who in an interview with the New York Times simultaneously denigrated the United States in terms far harsher than President Obama has ever used, demonstrated his jaw-dropping ignorance and fueled concerns that there is some fishy connection between the Trump team and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
He said in the interview, “I don’t think we have the right to lecture [other countries]. Look at what is happening in our country.†This is pure left-wing anti-American bile. We are too disreputable, too corrupt to offer leadership to the world, says Trump — and the likes of Noam Chomsky. Had Obama said, “Who are we to tell China to respect human rights?,†the right would have gone bananas.
But Trump did not stop there. He essentially repudiated our NATO obligations, which call on us to provide support under Article V if a NATO member is attacked. Not under the Trump regime. We’ll only do so, he says, if we think the member has fulfilled its obligations (whatever he imagines them to be). He’d merely “prefer†to respect our treaty obligations. Trump has a reputation in business for reneging on deals; his word is never his bond. If he’s elected, the United States will then have that rap.
Trump continued on, promising to advance the “America First†mantra — an isolationist dog-whistle recalling Charles Lindbergh’s opposition in the 1930s to fighting Hitler. Unlike virtually every other elected Republican, he thinks it isn’t smart to be spending so much on national defense. (You wonder whether friends of Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Trump’s VP nominee, are trying to keep sharp objects away from him.) He refuses to acknowledge — contrary to members of both parties, the military and virtually every informed observer — that we save money by having forward-deployed troops.
Apparently, he is out to make fools of the few Republicans — Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Pence, Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) — defending him on foreign policy grounds. The remarks were so stunning for a man who is now the official nominee that one wonders whether Trump really wants the job of commander in chief.
Hillary Clinton policy adviser Jake Sullivan put out a furious response last night. He argued:
Tonight, Mike Pence said Donald Trump would stand with our allies. Tonight, Donald Trump flatly contradicted him.
For decades, the United States has given an ironclad guarantee to our NATO allies: we will come to their defense if they are attacked, just as they came to our defense after 9/11. Donald Trump was asked if he would honor that guarantee. He said … maybe, maybe not.
Ronald Reagan would be ashamed. Harry Truman would be ashamed. Republicans, Democrats and Independents who help build NATO into the most successful military alliance in history would all come to the same conclusion: Donald Trump is temperamentally unfit and fundamentally ill-prepared to be our Commander in Chief.
The President is supposed to be the leader of the free world. Donald Trump apparently doesn’t even believe in the free world.
He has that right.
He then went after Trump for his creepy admiration for Putin, who would dance a jig if the U.S. president effectively repudiated the NATO alliance. “Over the course of this campaign, Trump has displayed a bizarre and occasionally obsequious fascination with Russia’s strongman, Vladimir Putin. And he has the policy positions — and advisers — to match,†said Sullivan. “Just this week, we learned that the Trump campaign went to great lengths to remove a plank from the GOP platform about aid to Ukraine that would have offended Putin, bucking a strongly held position within his own party. Previously, he celebrated the Brexit vote, and in turn, casually predicted the disintegration of Europe. And now, he won’t even commit to protecting our NATO allies against a Russian invasion. It is fair to assume that Vladimir Putin is rooting for a Trump presidency.†He added, “More broadly, Trump has apparently decided that America lacks the moral authority to advance our interests and values around the world. He has adopted the logic and positions of China, Russia, and Iran. â€
Sullivan could have said that this is far worse than anything Obama or Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has said. It does bear an uncanny resemblance, however, to the radical left-wing protesters marching around Cleveland who decry the United States as a racist, imperialistic international scofflaw.
To those Republicans who convinced themselves that Trump could be tamed, this is a quick and brutal reminder that they’ve deluded themselves and have only enabled a dangerous ignoramus who lacks an appreciation for America’s role in the world and for the Reagan vision of a “shining city on a hill.â€
Republicans are already reacting with outrage. “Totally insane,†is how former ambassador Eric Edelman describes the remarks. “He says he has been advised by Secretaries Baker and Kissinger but I find it hard to imagine that they would have recommended the things that he said in his New York Times interview. It would be totally contrary to everything they have written and the manner in which they conducted themselves in office.†He continued, “His comments have already undermined U.S. alliances, emboldened Russian revanchists, degraded our extended nuclear deterrent, threatened multiple trade wars that would beggar the international economy and destroy American prosperity.†Danielle Pletka of the American Enterprise Institute tells Right Turn, “Donald Trump is apparently the bastard stepchild of Charles Lindbergh and Barack Obama, at once embarrassed by American values and leadership, contemptuous of loyalty unless it’s to him, strangely drawn to dictators and utterly ignorant of history.†She added, “If this guy led another country, we’d be considering sanctions and fretting about his political enemies languishing in prison.â€
Trump proved Cruz right. Trump is a dangerous demagogue who should be repudiated — and then stopped — by members of both parties.
UPDATE: A Republican who chose to stay away and refuse to endorse Trump, Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), puts out a statement: “Our friends should draw strength and our adversaries should take pause from this simple fact: Americans keep our word. As Mr. Putin revives Soviet-style aggression and the threat of violent Islam looms over European and American cities, the United States stands with our NATO allies.†Sasse is looking mighty smart these days.
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Regardless of who approved it, Cruz should not have spoken last night if it wasn't for the sole purpose of helping get the GOP nominee in office. If he was pissed about Trump's attack on his family, he should have stayed away and said that was the reason. Instead, he got booed off the stage and used that as an excuse afterward. This was solely about him thinking he could kick off his campaign for 2020.
They shouldn't have invited him or let him speak. But there hasn't been anything sane or conventional about Trump's campaign.
So you're saying Trump made a terrible deal? Awful. Sad!
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So you're saying Trump made a terrible deal? Awful. Sad!
I don't know if it was a deal or not. But pretty stupid to have Cruz go out there unless he was going to say anything other than rallying the party to unite and take the White House.
I saw one of the panels of "experts" talking early last night prior to Cruz and Gingrich saying there hasn't been one light moment during the entire convention. A lot of in-fighting. Way too serious. Then, later after that, one of the speakers is booed off the stage.
Sounds like the GOP is going to come out of this thing on a roll.
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He pretty much admits in this that it was about the personal attacks.
Can't say that I blame him but why even speak at the convention if you're not going to endorse the candidate?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/5790f069c46188823e8b4660/amp?client=safari#
I'm going to assume that you don't know anything about your linked source.
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I don't know if it was a deal or not. But pretty stupid to have Cruz go out there unless he was going to say anything other than rallying the party to unite and take the White House.
I saw one of the panels of "experts" talking early last night prior to Cruz and Gingrich saying there hasn't been one light moment during the entire convention. A lot of in-fighting. Way too serious. Then, later after that, one of the speakers is booed off the stage.
Sounds like the GOP is going to come out of this thing on a roll.
After 12 minutes at 325 they should be done. Hopefully. :facepalm:
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I'm going to assume that you don't know anything about your linked source.
He was just putin in the wind.
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After 12 minutes at 325 they should be done. Hopefully. :facepalm:
A toll is a toll and a roll is a roll. If you don't pay the toll, we can't eat any rolls.
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Screw Cruz. That mommy part is nothing but a NWO liberal sack-o-shit.
This guy instead.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVuIhnyggUg
Then this guy.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRl7wYKZ_fk
Cruz is no Reagan.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eSmfldz_bA
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So you're saying Trump made a terrible deal? Awful. Sad!
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A toll is a toll and a roll is a roll. If you don't pay the toll, we can't eat any rolls.
Not messing with your words. I just hope this puts the nail in the coffin for the republican party as we know it. In this year with a candidate as disgusting as Hillary, the best the repubs could offer up was Trump, and then most of them (losers) can't get behind him. To keep their own place in line at the Gubment trough, they would rather see that mommy part win.
Fuck all them.
She will drive this country into a bigger shithole than we are already.
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Not messing with your words. I just hope this puts the nail in the coffin for the republican party as we know it. In this year with a candidate as disgusting as Hillary, the best the repubs could offer up was Trump, and then most of them (losers) can't get behind him. To keep their own place in line at the Gubment trough, they would rather see that mommy part win.
Fuck all them.
She will drive this country into a bigger shithole than we are already.
https://youtu.be/G7Hgm_Vv7a8
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I'm going to assume that you don't know anything about your linked source.
I'm not sure what your purpose in asking this is but be certain of one thing, if it is intended to slight me in any way, I will stab you in the larynx. Won't think twice of it.
I don't play.
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I'm not sure what your purpose in asking this is but be certain of one thing, if it is intended to slight me in any way, I will stab you in the larynx. Won't think twice of it.
I don't play.
You've come a long way from the days when you would threaten to reach into a person's mouth and pull out their entire endocrine system.
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I'm not sure what your purpose in asking this is but be certain of one thing, if it is intended to slight me in any way, I will stab you in the larynx. Won't think twice of it.
I don't play.
Where's the love?
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Ivanka pushed the (verifiably false) liberal gender wage gap statistics and then promoted government funded childcare.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ivanka-trump-childcare-paid-leave-rnc-speech
And you guys really still believe they're principled conservatives...
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Ivanka pushed the (verifiably false) liberal gender wage gap statistics and then promoted government funded childcare.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ivanka-trump-childcare-paid-leave-rnc-speech
And you guys really still believe they're principled conservatives...
I believe John Wayne Gacy in a Pickles the Clown suit is a better option than Hillary.
End of story.
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Trump killed it. Best I've ever heard him. I've said it 100X. I despise that these are our only choices. But he said exactly what I've been waiting to hear from the man. If he sticks to those talking points, I'll back him all the way. How, as an American, can you disagree with anything he said? And I'm more convinced than ever that he's a thousand times better candidate than Hellary.
And as soon as he finished, I turned it off. I refuse to listen to any of the so called experts break down his speech and try to rip it apart. He was spot on with what I wanted him, or any other candidate, to say.
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Trump killed it. Best I've ever heard him. I've said it 100X. I despise that these are our only choices. But he said exactly what I've been waiting to hear from the man. If he sticks to those talking points, I'll back him all the way. How, as an American, can you disagree with anything he said? And I'm more convinced than ever that he's a thousand times better candidate than Hellary.
And as soon as he finished, I turned it off. I refuse to listen to any of the so called experts break down his speech and try to rip it apart. He was spot on with what I wanted him, or any other candidate, to say.
But "Ivanka pushed the (verifiably false) liberal gender wage gap statistics and then promoted government funded childcare."
Don't you feel silly now!
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I don't give a flying monkey turd if any or all of Trump's numbers were spot on or not. He spoke clearly and decisively (For the first time) on the main issues I wanted to hear him speak on. But, I know all that will be sliced, diced, picked apart and analyzed according to each side's agenda. Perfect example just before Ivanka came on. Two analysts are in the booth talking about Trump's stance that the U.S. contributes a grossly disproportionate amount to NATO compared to all other members. These two guys went back and forth debating the issue, one for and one against Trump's position, and got so technical and involved in trying to spin the numbers in each's favor that the host finally stopped them and said "You're making my head hurt."
That's politics. I'm not going to listen. Again, I hate our choices. But Trump finally gave, me at least, a glimmer of hope that he can actually pull it together and handle this job.
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I don't give a flying monkey turd if any or all of Trump's numbers were spot on or not.
This, in all honesty, scares the shit out of me that people think like this.
"I don't care if a politician gets on TV & tells the nation complete horseshit false facts and statistics as long as it lines up with my way of thinking and gets people pissed off."
I felt 100% the same way about Obama's asinine claim that guns were easier to get than books or computers (http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/12/no-president-obama-its-not-easier-to-buy-a-glock-than-a-book/).
I'm gonna guess you recognized how reckless and irresponsible it was to spout that lie in order to progress an agenda. Trump has an R after his name tho so go right ahead.
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This, in all honesty, scares the shit out of me that people think like this.
"I don't care if a politician gets on tells the nation complete horseshit false facts and statistics as long as it lines up with my way of thinking and gets people pissed off."
Hillary.
Hello?
He said if the numbers were "off". Not made up. Numbers can be spun. I hear every talking head on TV claim there is a pattern to police violence against blacks. There isn't. But they keep saying it.
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This, in all honesty, scares the shit out of me that people think like this.
"I don't care if a politician gets on tells the nation complete horseshit false facts and statistics as long as it lines up with my way of thinking and gets people pissed off."
I felt 100% the same way about Obama's asinine claim that guns were easier to get than books or computers (http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/12/no-president-obama-its-not-easier-to-buy-a-glock-than-a-book/).
I'm gonna guess you recognized how reckless and irresponsible it was to spout that lie in order to progress an agenda. Trump has an R after his name tho so go right ahead.
Not what I'm saying at all. Not even close. If he said 42% of Americans are in some circumstance or situation and the opposition digs and nit-picks and finds some study that says it's only 36%, I don't care. Means absolutely jack squat. Just like the two panelists I referenced, arguing over the percentages that each country contributes to NATO. Each spun their argument with mind-boggling precision to reinforce their position. Senseless!
Trump reined it in and focused on the issues I wanted to hear him speak on. No rambling, incoherent jumping from one topic to another. He said what I wanted to hear on immigration, on the trade deficit, on terrorism, on law enforcement and putting people to work. Even 4 panelists on MSNBC, of all places, said this morning that he knocked it out of the park.
Now, for the first time, I'm seriously looking forward to getting Trump and Hellary on stage.
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Now, for the first time, I'm seriously looking forward to getting Trump and Hellary on stage.
He won't be able to debate using a teleprompter. You don't love Trump, you love his speechwriter. Let's find out who that guy is and vote for him.
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I know no one will watch this, but I'm gonna post it here anyway.
Nails the hypocrisy in this thread pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNiqpBNE9ik
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He won't be able to debate using a teleprompter. You don't love Trump, you love his speechwriter. Let's find out who that guy is and vote for him.
I don't love Trump, period. He didn't need a teleprompter to blow away 16 opponents in the primaries.
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He won't be able to debate using a teleprompter. You don't love Trump, you love his speechwriter. Let's find out who that guy is and vote for him.
HORSESHIT.
Nobody uses a teleprompter less than Trump.
You turn Hillary's off and she can't even complete a sentence. Ragged dusty whore.
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I know no one will watch this, but I'm gonna post it here anyway.
Nails the hypocrisy in this thread pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNiqpBNE9ik
Hypocrisy my sagging ass.
There's no hypocrisy here at all. You keep posting shit nobody cares about that isn't going to affect the decisions they've made and because people don't go "oh, hell, he's right... Trump SUCKS" you scream xenateria or hippocracy or rabies or something.
And oh. Fuck both of these smarmy assholes.
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I know no one will watch this, but I'm gonna post it here anyway.
Nails the hypocrisy in this thread pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNiqpBNE9ik
I'd rather watch Kaos eat tomatoes while reviewing a Justin Beiber film while the 2008 football season is on a loop on another TV, than watch those two overlords of the douche bags.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHkqP1bhPMU
Implying Cruz's dad shot JFK, or at least was in on the conspiracy.
Saying the National Enquirer is a reputable news source & questioning why they never got a Pulitzer Prize.
Here he is saying basically this same shit back in May.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/04/you-cant-knock-the-national-enquirer-trump-doubles-down-on-oswald-cruz-conspiracy-theory/
‘You can’t knock the National Enquirer': Trump doubles down on Oswald-Cruz conspiracy theory
By Elise Viebeck May 4
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump addresses the media at Trump Tower following primary election results on May 3 in New York. (Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)
De facto Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump doubled down on a wild conspiracy theory linking Sen. Ted Cruz's father to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and defended the tabloid paper that made the claim.
"All I was doing was referring to a picture that was reported in a magazine," Trump said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "I think they didn't deny it. I don't think anybody denied it. No, I don't know what it was exactly, but it was a major story in a major publication, and it was picked up by many other publications."
Trump was widely criticized Tuesday for claiming that Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, was spotted with Lee Harvey Oswald around the time of Kennedy's assassination. The business mogul seems to have been referring to a National Enquirer story from last month alleging that the elder Cruz appeared in a 1963 photo with Oswald, a claim the now-defunct Cruz campaign has called "garbage."
After ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos questioned the tabloid's credibility -- it is perhaps best known for its alien sightings -- Trump defended the Enquirer's coverage of the O.J. Simpson murder trial and John Edwards's sex scandal in 2008.
"You can't knock the National Enquirer," Trump said.
"It's brought many, many things to light, not all of them pleasant. The fact is that [the supposed Cruz-Oswald photo] was a cover story on the National Enquirer. It was picked up by many other people and magazines and periodicals and newspapers, and all I did was refer to it. I'm just referring to an article that appeared. It has nothing to do with me."
Trump also accused Rafael Cruz of saying "nasty things" about him during the campaign.
Ted Cruz dropped out of the presidential race Tuesday night after Trump's runaway victory in the Indiana primary. Trump is now considered the presumptive Republican nominee, with only Ohio Gov. John Kasich -- his long-shot GOP rival -- left in the running.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHkqP1bhPMU
Implying Cruz's dad shot JFK, or at least was in on the conspiracy.
Saying the National Enquirer is a reputable news source & questioning why they never got a Pulitzer Prize.
Here he is saying basically this same shit back in May.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/04/you-cant-knock-the-national-enquirer-trump-doubles-down-on-oswald-cruz-conspiracy-theory/
Let me put this in a term you can understand, he could come out and say the following:
Pern is bad.
Auburn sucks
Rawl tide
Tony Romo is a good QB.
Jerry Jones is a good GM.
and
I like Dallaswareagle.
I don't care, he is not "The mommy part".
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Let me put this in a term you can understand, he could come out and say the following:
Pern is bad.
Auburn sucks
Rawl tide
Tony Romo is a god QB.
Jerry Jones is a good GM.
and
I like Dallaswareagle.
I don't care, he is not "The mommy part".
Yeah right. Like that would ever happen.
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Yeah right. Like that would ever happen.
It could, one day, when we all get along and things are
Who am I kidding.
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I know no one will watch this, but I'm gonna post it here anyway.
Nails the hypocrisy in this thread pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNiqpBNE9ik
Just for you I watched this. If you think that moronic asshole encapsulated anything meaningful there's a real problem in this country.
Nothing but the ramblings of a fucktard.
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Just for you I watched this. If you think that moronic asshole encapsulated anything meaningful there's a real problem in this country.
Nothing but the ramblings of a fucktard.
Sean Hannity = you and CCTAU and others in this thread. Complete 180s on just about everything you supposedly hated in Obama when it comes to Trump.
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Sean Hannity = you and CCTAU and others in this thread. Complete 180s on just about everything you supposedly hated in Obama when it comes to Trump.
No. Absolutely not. Not even close.
Obama has never run anything. He was a community organizer whatever the fuck that is. Trump has run a business, hired and fired people. Made and lost money.
Obama isn't a Christian. But he pretends to be. And behaves like a Muslim. Trump was a Christian. He isn't riding it. Not a big deal.
Obama has no idea how to lead. He offers vacant words with no background in reality of life experience. Trump says off the wall shit. But he's led people.
Obama is a globalist. Trump is a nationalist.
Obama cares about his legacy and perpetrating the fraud of "progressivism"'on this country. Trump cares about America. His legacy is already set.
Obama is a piece of shit. He licked the boots of islamics and Cubans. He made us weak and ineffectual. Trump won't.
Not the same. Not the same at all.
That you believe they are and agree with that wad of monkey nuts Jon Stewart says nothing good.
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So Hillary selected as big a name as Trump did for VP.
I can't quite recall his name right now.....but it's big.
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He won't be able to debate using a teleprompter. You don't love Trump, you love his speechwriter. Let's find out who that guy is and vote for him.
Good speech from what I saw but there is no way that I can give speechwriters much credit in getting Trump to the convention. He may be a lot of things but I don't think a teleprompter reading is his forte.
He's about as off the cuff as one could be. Too much for most. But, that part is what brung him there.
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So Hillary selected as big a name as Trump did for VP.
I can't quite recall his name right now.....but it's big.
She should have named Comey as her running mate. If it weren't for him turning a blind eye to her liberties with national security secrets and their attempted cover up, Comrade Bernie would be the one preparing to get steamrolled by Trump.
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She should have named Comey as her running mate. If it weren't for him turning a blind eye to her liberties with national security secrets and their attempted cover up, Comrade Bernie would be the one preparing to get steamrolled by Trump.
Fucking....................A!!!!!
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No. Absolutely not. Not even close.
This whole post is pure and utter delusion. Nothing short of it.
Obama has never run anything. He was a community organizer whatever the fuck that is. Trump has run a business, hired and fired people. Made and lost money.
Obama was an Illinois state legislator from 1997 to 2004, when he became a US senator in 2005, until he was elected president in 2008. As a US Senator, he served on the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions, the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, the US Senate Committe on Veterans' Affairs, the Committee on Enviornment and Public Works, the Committee on Foreign Relations, and numerous subcommittees of each.
He had over a decade of experience in the Illinois and US Senate before running as a very young president. And yes, he spent the decade before that as a grassroots "Community Organizer". Which still had infinitely more political relevance than anything Trump has ever done.
Oh and Trump "made lots of money" off of his campaign, by using 25% of his campaign finances to fund his own business and children, yeah. But if you mean to say he's a phenomenal business man (as if that's relevant to this point about government experience), he's filed for bankruptcy four times and did less with more than Paris Hilton did (http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/paris-hilton-is-better-at-business-than-donald-trump-is/) so by your standards, she's better qualified to be president.
Obama isn't a Christian. But he pretends to be. And behaves like a Muslim. Trump was a Christian. He isn't riding it. Not a big deal.
Such bullshit. You're perfectly willing to pontificate on what this man's faith is, in spite of his own words because YOU KNOW BETTER THAN HE DOES GODDAMMIT, YOU SAW A MEME WITH HIM IN TRADITIONAL MIDDLE-EASTERN GARB WHEN VISITING THE MIDDLE-EAST!!!! UNEXPLAINABLE UNLESS HE'S WITH ISIS!!!
Meanwhile, how dare someone claim to know what's in Trump's heart, even though he flat out said (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-does-not-ask/2015/07/18/id/657832/) "I am not sure I have (asked for forgiveness). I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't." He also referred to taking communion as "when I drink my little wine" and "have my little cracker" (http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2016/01/20/faith-little-wine-little-cracker/), referred to "2 Corinthians" (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/20/politics/donald-trump-tony-perkins-sarah-palin/), is perfectly ok with his daughter converting to Judaism (http://www.ibtimes.com/ivanka-trumps-jewish-faith-11-things-know-about-donald-trumps-daughter-judaism-2393299), and the only reference to Christ in "The Art of the Deal" is taking it in vain with an anectdote about his father saying "For Christ's sake, Mary. Enough is enough, turn it off" (https://books.google.com/books?id=Ye6e_VxM00kC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=art+of+the+deal+%22christ%27s+sake%22&source=bl&ots=6YwYlyLIFf&sig=BpjhlYP0atgqswyCf3Ln-_y59qY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirn7u16YnOAhVC6CYKHUgQAycQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=art%20of%20the%20deal%20%22christ's%20sake%22&f=false).
Obama has no idea how to lead. He offers vacant words with no background in reality of life experience. Trump says off the wall shit. But he's led people.
Bullshit. See response #1.
Obama is a globalist. Trump is a nationalist.
A White Nationalist.
As for being just a Nationalist, he's doing it wrong (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news). Told the New York Times he wouldn't defend NATO allies against a Russian invasion, which is the primary original purpose of NATO. Then his campaign tried to deny he said that, and then video of him saying it was released. Whoops.
Then also in the same interview he said:
I think right now when it comes to civil liberties, our country has a lot of problems, and I think it’s very hard for us to get involved in other countries when we don’t know what we are doing and we can’t see straight in our own country. We have tremendous problems when you have policemen being shot in the streets, when you have riots, when you have Ferguson. When you have Baltimore. When you have all of the things that are happening in this country — we have other problems, and I think we have to focus on those problems. When the world looks at how bad the United States is, and then we go and talk about civil liberties, I don’t think we’re a very good messenger.
Doesn't sound very nationalistic to me. "Who are we to judge? We as Americans have no moral standing because we've got plenty of problems here of our own! #BlackLivesMatter!"
Just try reading that quote again in Obama's voice and try not to rage. I dare you.
Obama cares about his legacy and perpetrating the fraud of "progressivism"'on this country. Trump cares about America. His legacy is already set.
See above. His "legacy" is set as an oafish reality TV star whose name is synonymous with gaudy.
Obama is a piece of shit. He licked the boots of islamics and Cubans. He made us weak and ineffectual. Trump won't.
Hoo boy at this one. He "licked the boots" of ISIS (or ISIL as he wants to call it, whatever) only in your Alex Jones delusional skull. NOT jumping to eradicate and scapegoat an entire religion because of its radicals is hardly supporting Islamic Terrorism. There are hundreds of speeches to choose from of him condemning "ISIL". Cubans? As a free-trade advocate, with Castro having been on his death bed for nearly a decade, I'm ok with trying to mend relations with our geographic neighbor who hasn't posed any real threat for pretty much my entire life. The embargo served its purpose and ran its course.
Trump, on the other hand...
No need to repeat myself.
He has praised Kim Jong Un (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-gotta-give/story?id=36198345), Muammar Gadafi (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/25/politics/donald-trump-moammar-gadhafi-saddam-hussein/), Vladimir Putin (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/putin-trump-bromance/421242/), the Chinese dictator responsible for Tiananmen Square (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/trump-calls-tiananmen-square-protests-riot-defends-calling-crackdown-strong-n536761), and now Saddam Hussein (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/donald-trump-saddam-hussein-iraq-terrorism/).
I mean, who the fuck praises Saddam Hussein? Michael Moore is like "Whoa dude, that's a little much".
Add to that he has ramped up his Putin appeasement, as I have already posted these articles in this forum.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/clinton-trump-putin-nato/492332/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-proves-hes-a-putin-lapdog/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/2016-trump-putin-russia-gop-platform-214074
Stupid or liar? Almost nothing you say in this forum is anywhere near grounded in reality.
Stupid or liar?
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Stupid or liar? Almost nothing you say in this forum is anywhere near grounded in reality.
Stupid or liar?
Or maybe your perception of reality is different than his and neither one of you are stupid or lying???
It's not that hard dude.
People have different opinions and perceptions and can look at things differently without being stupid or having to lie. Why is it so hard for you to understand that?
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Beat his white Ass, Chizzy!
https://youtu.be/iZjzfi6ncrA
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Better call the amberlamps because I am a motherfucker.
He leakin'.
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This whole post is pure and utter delusion. Nothing short of it.
Obama was an Illinois state legislator from 1997 to 2004, when he became a US senator in 2005, until he was elected president in 2008. As a US Senator, he served on the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions, the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, the US Senate Committe on Veterans' Affairs, the Committee on Enviornment and Public Works, the Committee on Foreign Relations, and numerous subcommittees of each.
He had over a decade of experience in the Illinois and US Senate before running as a very young president. And yes, he spent the decade before that as a grassroots "Community Organizer". Which still had infinitely more political relevance than anything Trump has ever done.
Oh and Trump "made lots of money" off of his campaign, by using 25% of his campaign finances to fund his own business and children, yeah. But if you mean to say he's a phenomenal business man (as if that's relevant to this point about government experience), he's filed for bankruptcy four times and did less with more than Paris Hilton did (http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/paris-hilton-is-better-at-business-than-donald-trump-is/) so by your standards, she's better qualified to be president.
Such bullshit. You're perfectly willing to pontificate on what this man's faith is, in spite of his own words because YOU KNOW BETTER THAN HE DOES GODDAMMIT, YOU SAW A MEME WITH HIM IN TRADITIONAL MIDDLE-EASTERN GARB WHEN VISITING THE MIDDLE-EAST!!!! UNEXPLAINABLE UNLESS HE'S WITH ISIS!!!
Meanwhile, how dare someone claim to know what's in Trump's heart, even though he flat out said (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-does-not-ask/2015/07/18/id/657832/) "I am not sure I have (asked for forgiveness). I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't." He also referred to taking communion as "when I drink my little wine" and "have my little cracker" (http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2016/01/20/faith-little-wine-little-cracker/), referred to "2 Corinthians" (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/20/politics/donald-trump-tony-perkins-sarah-palin/), is perfectly ok with his daughter converting to Judaism (http://www.ibtimes.com/ivanka-trumps-jewish-faith-11-things-know-about-donald-trumps-daughter-judaism-2393299), and the only reference to Christ in "The Art of the Deal" is taking it in vain with an anectdote about his father saying "For Christ's sake, Mary. Enough is enough, turn it off" (https://books.google.com/books?id=Ye6e_VxM00kC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=art+of+the+deal+%22christ%27s+sake%22&source=bl&ots=6YwYlyLIFf&sig=BpjhlYP0atgqswyCf3Ln-_y59qY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirn7u16YnOAhVC6CYKHUgQAycQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=art%20of%20the%20deal%20%22christ's%20sake%22&f=false).
Bullshit. See response #1.
A White Nationalist.
As for being just a Nationalist, he's doing it wrong (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news). Told the New York Times he wouldn't defend NATO allies against a Russian invasion, which is the primary original purpose of NATO. Then his campaign tried to deny he said that, and then video of him saying it was released. Whoops.
Then also in the same interview he said:
Doesn't sound very nationalistic to me. "Who are we to judge? We as Americans have no moral standing because we've got plenty of problems here of our own! #BlackLivesMatter!"
Just try reading that quote again in Obama's voice and try not to rage. I dare you.
See above. His "legacy" is set as an oafish reality TV star whose name is synonymous with gaudy.
Hoo boy at this one. He "licked the boots" of ISIS (or ISIL as he wants to call it, whatever) only in your Alex Jones delusional skull. NOT jumping to eradicate and scapegoat an entire religion because of its radicals is hardly supporting Islamic Terrorism. There are hundreds of speeches to choose from of him condemning "ISIL". Cubans? As a free-trade advocate, with Castro having been on his death bed for nearly a decade, I'm ok with trying to mend relations with our geographic neighbor who hasn't posed any real threat for pretty much my entire life. The embargo served its purpose and ran its course.
Trump, on the other hand...
No need to repeat myself.
Add to that he has ramped up his Putin appeasement, as I have already posted these articles in this forum.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/clinton-trump-putin-nato/492332/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-proves-hes-a-putin-lapdog/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/2016-trump-putin-russia-gop-platform-214074
Stupid or liar? Almost nothing you say in this forum is anywhere near grounded in reality.
Stupid or liar?
Allow me to retort to each individual section of your response.
:taunt:
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You know, I went back and read through Chizad's ridiculous babble (just the most recent post, not all of it) because I wanted to be fair. Benefit of the doubt and all.
In addition to :taunt: I must also add :rofl:
I said Trump was a nationalist. Chizad immediately went off screaming about NATO and how a quote Trump made about taking care of our own problems before trying to be the example to the world belies that statement.
Whaaaaa?
Ummmmm.... NATO isn't America. Taking care of our own issues first is nationalist to me.
Maybe he misunderstood or maybe I just used the term in a way he failed to understand. In my view, Obama and Hillbillary the Fuckwhore, for that matter, are globalists. Always more concerned with the world than they are their own back yards. Obama sees himself as Emperor to the World moreso than he does America's leader. That dusty pants-suited bitch sees herself as Queen.
Trump is more nationally focused. And I completely agree with that. We've become the drunken, broke, shabby uncle who still tries to give everybody else in the family advice on how to live their lives and who inserts himself into the business of others where his opinion isn't wanted or needed.
We've got to take care of what's happening here before we can trot around the globe and solve everybody else's problems.
Trump (and he's not the only one, but he's the one now running for president) sees that clearly.
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If Chizad doesn't think Obama has empowered global terrorism with his mewling rhetoric and Islama-friendly attitudes then that's his problem. ISIS (or ISIL as Imam Obama likes to call them) exists in large part because of the idiotic foreign policy decisions made by this Islama-Prez and the piece of crap the democrats just nominated for president. That entire region is a greater danger to the US than it was before they were in charge, and it is so because of their bumbling as well as their bowing and scraping in front of Islam.
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I have a good friend whose parents came from Cuba during the Castro regime. I don't care if Fidel is on his deathbed or driving a purple 1939 Ford with a chrome shifter knob down Pennsylvania Avenue. Fuck Cuba.
My friend loathes Obama and despises how he groveled in Cuba. He refuses to speak his name and now calls IslamaPrez only "That POS." I'm glad Chizad is ready to be cool with Cuba. My friend isn't and I'll take his position -- since he's Cuban -- on that. Especially because I like his sandwiches. Maybe it is time to normalize things there. But it wasn't time and will never be time to approach it from a position of weakness. What Obama did made it look like WE were apologizing for being such assholes to Cuba. Should have attacked it from a position of Fuck You strength. Which my friend probably would have embraced. But he didn't.
And that's a major problem with the mealy mouthed Islama-Prez. Everything he does gives the impression that we are capitulating to the whims of others. Always. And mommy parton will be exponentially worse.
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Putin appeasement... ha. Nonsensical leftist spin. But whatev. You're okay with Obama sucking the cocks of Islamics, Castros, Mexicans, Argentinians and the rest of the world order but you're going to shit your britches because Trump acknowledges (and maybe even respects) the power of other world leaders -- who do pose a potential threat. Okay.
I have to ask:
Moron or just moronic?
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You know, I went back and read through Chizad's ridiculous babble (just the most recent post, not all of it) because I wanted to be fair. Benefit of the doubt and all.
In addition to :taunt: I must also add :rofl:
I said Trump was a nationalist. Chizad immediately went off screaming about NATO and how a quote Trump made about taking care of our own problems before trying to be the example to the world belies that statement.
Whaaaaa?
Ummmmm.... NATO isn't America. Taking care of our own issues first is nationalist to me.
Maybe he misunderstood or maybe I just used the term in a way he failed to understand. In my view, Obama and Hillbillary the Fuckwhore, for that matter, are globalists. Always more concerned with the world than they are their own back yards. Obama sees himself as Emperor to the World moreso than he does America's leader. That dusty pants-suited bitch sees herself as Queen.
Trump is more nationally focused. And I completely agree with that. We've become the drunken, broke, shabby uncle who still tries to give everybody else in the family advice on how to live their lives and who inserts himself into the business of others where his opinion isn't wanted or needed.
We've got to take care of what's happening here before we can trot around the globe and solve everybody else's problems.
Trump (and he's not the only one, but he's the one now running for president) sees that clearly.
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If Chizad doesn't think Obama has empowered global terrorism with his mewling rhetoric and Islama-friendly attitudes then that's his problem. ISIS (or ISIL as Imam Obama likes to call them) exists in large part because of the idiotic foreign policy decisions made by this Islama-Prez and the piece of crap the democrats just nominated for president. That entire region is a greater danger to the US than it was before they were in charge, and it is so because of their bumbling as well as their bowing and scraping in front of Islam.
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I have a good friend whose parents came from Cuba during the Castro regime. I don't care if Fidel is on his deathbed or driving a purple 1939 Ford with a chrome shifter knob down Pennsylvania Avenue. Fuck Cuba.
My friend loathes Obama and despises how he groveled in Cuba. He refuses to speak his name and now calls IslamaPrez only "That POS." I'm glad Chizad is ready to be cool with Cuba. My friend isn't and I'll take his position -- since he's Cuban -- on that. Especially because I like his sandwiches. Maybe it is time to normalize things there. But it wasn't time and will never be time to approach it from a position of weakness. What Obama did made it look like WE were apologizing for being such assholes to Cuba. Should have attacked it from a position of Fuck You strength. Which my friend probably would have embraced. But he didn't.
And that's a major problem with the mealy mouthed Islama-Prez. Everything he does gives the impression that we are capitulating to the whims of others. Always. And mommy parton will be exponentially worse.
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Putin appeasement... ha. Nonsensical leftist spin. But whatev. You're okay with Obama sucking the cocks of Islamics, Castros, Mexicans, Argentinians and the rest of the world order but you're going to shit your britches because Trump acknowledges (and maybe even respects) the power of other world leaders -- who do pose a potential threat. Okay.
I have to ask:
Moron or just moronic?
Agreed. AUChizad! was much more popular and respected than chizzy could ever hope to be, yet he was the one that got banned.
Senseless.
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She should have named Comey as her running mate. If it weren't for him turning a blind eye to her liberties with national security secrets and their attempted cover up, Comrade Bernie would be the one preparing to get steamrolled by Trump.
Yeah, nevermind those polls that say otherwise.
Bernie beats Trump
Trump is deadlocked with Hillary (some polls have Trump beating Hillary now after the email leak)
For whatever reason, the Democrats have decided to continue to ride a dead horse.
Trump's real competition will be from Gary Johnson or maybe Jill Stein.
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In addition to :taunt: I must also add :rofl:
I said Trump was a nationalist. Chizad immediately went off screaming about NATO and how a quote Trump made about taking care of our own problems before trying to be the example to the world belies that statement.
Whaaaaa?
Ummmmm.... NATO isn't America. Taking care of our own issues first is nationalist to me.
Maybe he misunderstood or maybe I just used the term in a way he failed to understand. In my view, Obama and Hillbillary the Fuckwhore, for that matter, are globalists. Always more concerned with the world than they are their own back yards. Obama sees himself as Emperor to the World moreso than he does America's leader. That dusty pants-suited bitch sees herself as Queen.
Trump is more nationally focused. And I completely agree with that. We've become the drunken, broke, shabby uncle who still tries to give everybody else in the family advice on how to live their lives and who inserts himself into the business of others where his opinion isn't wanted or needed.
We've got to take care of what's happening here before we can trot around the globe and solve everybody else's problems.
Trump (and he's not the only one, but he's the one now running for president) sees that clearly.
Sorry, you're still the one who's confused.
I brought up the NATO thing for two reasons. 1) He's appeasing Putin and more importantly 2) To segue into what he said in that same interview that is about as anti-Nationalist, anti-American Exceptionalism as you can get. Again, read this with Obama's voice and tell me how you like it.
I think right now when it comes to civil liberties, our country has a lot of problems, and I think it’s very hard for us to get involved in other countries when we don’t know what we are doing and we can’t see straight in our own country. We have tremendous problems when you have policemen being shot in the streets, when you have riots, when you have Ferguson. When you have Baltimore. When you have all of the things that are happening in this country — we have other problems, and I think we have to focus on those problems. When the world looks at how bad the United States is, and then we go and talk about civil liberties, I don’t think we’re a very good messenger.
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If Chizad doesn't think Obama has empowered global terrorism with his mewling rhetoric and Islama-friendly attitudes then that's his problem. ISIS (or ISIL as Imam Obama likes to call them) exists in large part because of the idiotic foreign policy decisions made by this Islama-Prez and the piece of crap the democrats just nominated for president. That entire region is a greater danger to the US than it was before they were in charge, and it is so because of their bumbling as well as their bowing and scraping in front of Islam.
This is a nothing sandwich. The entire region is in greater danger because Obama was the first president to start meddling there? Bush dindu nuffin? We haven't been a presence in the Middle East for over 50 years?
And I'm not even entirely sure what you're saying since this doesn't jive with your other narrative that Obama & Hillary are Neville Chamberlain. You're mad because he's been at war in the Middle East the entire 8 years of his presidency, or because he's "appeasing" them? Both can't be true. The former definitively, factually, indisputably is true.
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I have a good friend whose parents came from Cuba during the Castro regime. I don't care if Fidel is on his deathbed or driving a purple 1939 Ford with a chrome shifter knob down Pennsylvania Avenue. Fuck Cuba.
My friend loathes Obama and despises how he groveled in Cuba. He refuses to speak his name and now calls IslamaPrez only "That POS." I'm glad Chizad is ready to be cool with Cuba. My friend isn't and I'll take his position -- since he's Cuban -- on that. Especially because I like his sandwiches. Maybe it is time to normalize things there. But it wasn't time and will never be time to approach it from a position of weakness. What Obama did made it look like WE were apologizing for being such assholes to Cuba. Should have attacked it from a position of Fuck You strength. Which my friend probably would have embraced. But he didn't.
And that's a major problem with the mealy mouthed Islama-Prez. Everything he does gives the impression that we are capitulating to the whims of others. Always. And mommy parton will be exponentially worse.
Cool story, bro. I know Cubans too. More than one, in fact. They agree Castro is POS. But they don't want to see the country they were born in shrivel and die because of that asshole. He's practically dead already for all intents and purposes. Now is the time to decide if we want to be at odds with his successor and have genuine Cuban Montecristos be illegal in the US for another 50+ years, or do we want to be allies with our regional neighbors? Give me a rational reason for the former.
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Putin appeasement... ha. Nonsensical leftist spin. But whatev. You're okay with Obama sucking the cocks of Islamics, Castros, Mexicans, Argentinians and the rest of the world order but you're going to shit your britches because Trump acknowledges (and maybe even respects) the power of other world leaders -- who do pose a potential threat. Okay.
I have to ask:
Moron or just moronic?
Again, your logic is out of sync. Is he a pussy or is ISIS a product of his intervention in the Middle East? Bush bombed 4 countries (Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and Somalia), Obama's bombed 7 (Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria). Nearly double. And is commissioned drone strikes that kill Muslim civilians 90% of the time (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/90-of-people-killed-by-us-drone-strikes-in-afghani/).
I don't think any of that is good, but apparently you do, and you're saying he's just a peacenik that "sucks ISIS's cocks", which is completely divorced from reality.
And Mexico? Argentina? WTF are you talking about? Because he didn't propose "building a wall"? You're wanting to close off trade with these allies because they don't "speak American"?
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------------Cool story, bro. I know Cubans too. More than one, in fact. They agree Castro is POS. But they don't want to see the country they were born in shrivel and die because of that asshole. He's practically dead already for all intents and purposes. Now is the time to decide if we want to be at odds with his successor and have genuine Cuban Montecristos be illegal in the US for another 50+ years, or do we want to be allies with our regional neighbors? Give me a rational reason for the former.
Well the be fair, he actually eats with his Cuban friend.
He doesn't just say their name and walk by as they clean his office building!
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You know, I went back and read through Chizad's ridiculous babble (just the most recent post, not all of it) because I wanted to be fair. Benefit of the doubt and all.
In addition to :taunt: I must also add :rofl:
I said Trump was a nationalist. Chizad immediately went off screaming about NATO and how a quote Trump made about taking care of our own problems before trying to be the example to the world belies that statement.
Whaaaaa?
Ummmmm.... NATO isn't America. Taking care of our own issues first is nationalist to me.
Maybe he misunderstood or maybe I just used the term in a way he failed to understand. In my view, Obama and Hillbillary the Fuckwhore, for that matter, are globalists. Always more concerned with the world than they are their own back yards. Obama sees himself as Emperor to the World moreso than he does America's leader. That dusty pants-suited bitch sees herself as Queen.
Trump is more nationally focused. And I completely agree with that. We've become the drunken, broke, shabby uncle who still tries to give everybody else in the family advice on how to live their lives and who inserts himself into the business of others where his opinion isn't wanted or needed.
We've got to take care of what's happening here before we can trot around the globe and solve everybody else's problems.
Trump (and he's not the only one, but he's the one now running for president) sees that clearly.
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If Chizad doesn't think Obama has empowered global terrorism with his mewling rhetoric and Islama-friendly attitudes then that's his problem. ISIS (or ISIL as Imam Obama likes to call them) exists in large part because of the idiotic foreign policy decisions made by this Islama-Prez and the piece of crap the democrats just nominated for president. That entire region is a greater danger to the US than it was before they were in charge, and it is so because of their bumbling as well as their bowing and scraping in front of Islam.
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I have a good friend whose parents came from Cuba during the Castro regime. I don't care if Fidel is on his deathbed or driving a purple 1939 Ford with a chrome shifter knob down Pennsylvania Avenue. Fuck Cuba.
My friend loathes Obama and despises how he groveled in Cuba. He refuses to speak his name and now calls IslamaPrez only "That POS." I'm glad Chizad is ready to be cool with Cuba. My friend isn't and I'll take his position -- since he's Cuban -- on that. Especially because I like his sandwiches. Maybe it is time to normalize things there. But it wasn't time and will never be time to approach it from a position of weakness. What Obama did made it look like WE were apologizing for being such assholes to Cuba. Should have attacked it from a position of Fuck You strength. Which my friend probably would have embraced. But he didn't.
And that's a major problem with the mealy mouthed Islama-Prez. Everything he does gives the impression that we are capitulating to the whims of others. Always. And mommy parton will be exponentially worse.
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Putin appeasement... ha. Nonsensical leftist spin. But whatev. You're okay with Obama sucking the cocks of Islamics, Castros, Mexicans, Argentinians and the rest of the world order but you're going to shit your britches because Trump acknowledges (and maybe even respects) the power of other world leaders -- who do pose a potential threat. Okay.
I have to ask:
Moron or just moronic?
Oh and all of this fails to address the major delusion of your original post I was responding to.
Obama has never run anything. He was a community organizer whatever the fuck that is. Trump has run a business, hired and fired people. Made and lost money.
Obama isn't a Christian. But he pretends to be. And behaves like a Muslim. Trump was a Christian. He isn't riding it. Not a big deal.
Obama has no idea how to lead. He offers vacant words with no background in reality of life experience. Trump says off the wall shit. But he's led people.
All three of those statements are incontrovertibly, demonstrably false.
The rationalization that Obama, a Senator for a decade "has never run anything" while Trump is qualified as US president because he "has run a business" (just not as well as Paris Hilton (http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/paris-hilton-is-better-at-business-than-donald-trump-is/)) is fantasy-land shit.
And your conspiracies that "OBUMMER IS A MOOZLIM CUZ I SEENT A MEME WITH HIM IN A TURBAN IN A FORWARDED EMAIL!!!" while simultaneously claiming Trump is a morally superior fundamentalist Christian scholar despite flat-out saying he doesn't pray and "doesn't bring God into the picture" is equally staggeringly ignorant.
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Such a Nationalist! America First! MAGA! Fuck Mexicans!
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289586-trump-seeking-more-foreign-workers-for-mar-a-lago
Trump seeking more foreign workers for resort, golf course: report
By Rebecca Savransky
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is seeking foreign workers to staff his Mar-A-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla. and a nearby golf course, Buzzfeed News reported.
The GOP nominee is reportedly looking to hire 78 servers, housekeepers and cooks to staff his resort and the Trump National Jupiter, a golf course in Jupiter, Fla. The jobs pay between $10.17 an hour for housekeepers to $12.74 an hour for cooks.
The Republican nominee filed applications for temporary visas this month, saying he couldn't find enough American workers to staff the jobs, according to Buzzfeed.
On the campaign trail, Trump often talks about bringing back jobs to this country. During his Republican National Convention speech last week, he said he would "bring our jobs back to Ohio and Pennsylvania and New York and Michigan and all of America."
The GOP nominee has in the past defended his use of guest workers.
"You can't get help," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" last September.
"Getting help in Palm Beach during the season is almost impossible."
An official at Palm Beach's career services service told Buzzfeed last year that the agency had "hundreds of people in our database that would qualify for a lot of those hospitality jobs." The agency now has 1,237 residents of Palm Beach Country interested in server, cook or chef positions, according to Buzzfeed.
The H-2 visas let employers bring in guest workers to fill temporary positions but American workers need to always be given preference.
In the past year, Trump has gotten permission from the Department of Labor to hire at least 149 guest workers, Buzzfeed reported.
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Why work when the teet is plump...
Business people need workers. His company requested visas. Or maybe he just sent a truck to the fence and gathered them as they jumped.
You need a safe place...
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Such a Nationalist! America First! MAGA! Fuck Mexicans!
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289586-trump-seeking-more-foreign-workers-for-mar-a-lago
Your hinge is loose. It hangs funny.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/288722767975686145
What a great couple... Katherine Webb and AJ McCarron. They are both winners!
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/406935070625521664
@10AJMcCarron AJ is a GREAT quarterback who is finally being recognized as such - a total winner. What a pass!
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/292306855814889472
Alabama people are saying their team has real football & real girlfriends—not good for Notre Dame—but they’ll be back!
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/667855940788572160
"@The2ndguardsUS: @realDonaldTrump ROLL TIDE"
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/542129429062119425
"@Legendisland: @realDonaldTrump The Nick Saban of business!!"
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Wow wow wow at the dumb.
He is dangerously ignorant about the stuff that matters most right now.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-donald-trump-vice-president-joe-biden/story?id=41020870
STEPHANOPOULOS: Then why did you soften the GOP platform on Ukraine?
TRUMP: I wasn't involved in that. Honestly, I was not involved.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Your people were.
TRUMP: Yes. I was not involved in that. I'd like to -- I'd have to take a look at it. But I was not involved in that.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you know what they did?
TRUMP: They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved.
STEPHANOPOULOS: They took away the part of the platform calling for the provision of lethal weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves.
Why is that a good idea?
TRUMP: Well, look, you know, I have my own ideas. He's not going into Ukraine, OK?
Just so you understand. He's not going to go into Ukraine, all right?
You can mark it down and you can put it down, you can take it anywhere you want.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, he's already there, isn't he?
TRUMP: OK, well, he's there in a certain way, but I'm not there yet. You have Obama there. And frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under Obama, with all the strength that you're talking about and all of the power of NATO and all of this, in the meantime, he's going where -- he takes -- takes Crimea, he's sort of -- I mean...
STEPHANOPOULOS: But you said you might recognize that.
TRUMP: I'm going to take a look at it. But, you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also.
Now, that was under -- just so you understand, that was done under Obama's administration. And as far as the Ukraine is concerned, it's a mess. And that's under the Obama's administration, with his strong ties to NATO.
So with all of these strong ties to NATO, Ukraine is a mess. Crimea has been taken. Don't blame Donald Trump for that.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You said that...
TRUMP: And we'll do better and yet we'll have a better relationship with Russia.
And having a good relationship -- maybe. and having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You said you have no investments in Russia.
But do you owe any money to Russian individuals and institutions?
TRUMP: No. Not.
STEPHANOPOULOS: No?
TRUMP: The primary thing I did what Russia -- I bought a house in Palm Beach at a bankruptcy. It was a bankrupt, you know, person. I bought it from the banks. I bought it for about $40 million. I sold it for $100 million to a Russian.
That was probably five years ago. And that was primarily it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You partner now with...
TRUMP: Now, well I sell...
STEPHANOPOULOS: (INAUDIBLE) Grand...
TRUMP: Will I sell -- many years ago. I don't think they're Russian. I think there were other people, but there were various partners.
Will I sell condos to Russians on occasion?
Probably.
I mean I do that. I have a lot of condos. I do that. But I have no relationship to Russia whatsoever.
STEPHANOPOULOS: No debts?
TRUMP: No debts. I have very little debt to anybody. I don't need debt. You know, it's very interesting, I'm so liquid, I don't need debt. And if I need debt, if I want debt, I can get it from banks in New York City very easily.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You know where I'm going to take this next. Americans could be assured on that if they saw your tax returns.
TRUMP: My tax returns are very simple. They're under a minor audit, a routine audit, as they have been for many years. Every year I get audited.
Now, I don't know if you get audited but I have friends...
STEPHANOPOULOS: I've been audited.
TRUMP: -- who are very wealthy that never have been audited. I say -- you get audited. I get audited every year. I'm under a routine audited like routine. And I've been for years, every year.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Is there something...
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: George, it is very simple. Yes, but they're all linked. It's called the link.
It's very simple, if my audit is finished, that's great.
Now, I have to tell you. I watched Mitt Romney four years ago. He waited until September to give them, just before the election. They made him look so bad, it was so unfair, I actually think he didn't lose because of the 47 percent, I think he lost because of a couple of really minor items in tax return where he did nothing wrong. So it is unfair.
But I will say, when I'm finished with the audit, I'll do it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Richard Nixon released his even though his were under audit.
TRUMP: I don't use Richard Nixon as necessarily the guide, OK. I mean, you know, it's an interesting person to use, but don't use it.
This is not some complex "gotcha". Putin invading Ukraine was a huge fucking world news story. How could anyone in any level of politics, let alone the guy running for leader of the free world have missed it?
Full interview here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlqBjNLpQc
Skip to 5:30 for the part I posted here. For the whole thing he sounds like a kid who didn't study for a test trying to bullshit about a topic he clearly has no fucking idea about. How can any semi-intelligent person listen to this man speak and not recognize that very obvious fact?
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Wow wow wow at the dumb.
He is dangerously ignorant about the stuff that matters most right now.
What difference does it make?
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Wow wow wow at the dumb.
He is dangerously ignorant about the stuff that matters most right now.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-donald-trump-vice-president-joe-biden/story?id=41020870
This is not some complex "gotcha". Putin invading Ukraine was a huge fucking world news story. How could anyone in any level of politics, let alone the guy running for leader of the free world have missed it?
Full interview here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlqBjNLpQc
Skip to 5:30 for the part I posted here. For the whole thing he sounds like a kid who didn't study for a test trying to bullshit about a topic he clearly has no fucking idea about. How can any semi-intelligent person listen to this man speak and not recognize that very obvious fact?
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/158/701/tumblr_lo1qh68nVL1qzgmxb.gif)
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I think what's getting completely lost here is what Trump aspires to be.
There are those -- Hillary and Obama included -- who view the presidency as the Iron Throne. They view the job as being emperor or queen and have an innate desire to impose their will on the ignorant peons and subjects under their rule. They believe they know better than you. They believe they are smarter than you.
Trump? He comes from a business background. He sees the presidency as a CEO position. Yeah, the CEO is the final say but the CEO also hires the right people to make the right decisions. The CEO gives them authority to handle their jobs but stays abreast and makes course corrections when needed.
I'd rather have that.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/288722767975686145
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/406935070625521664
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/292306855814889472
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/667855940788572160
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/542129429062119425
K, what are your thoughts on your Fuhrer being basically a bammer with nothing but adoration for AJ McCarron, Saban, and Bama?
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K, what are your thoughts on your Fuhrer being basically a bammer with nothing but adoration for AJ McCarron, Saban, and Bama?
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/46677562.jpg)
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(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/46677562.jpg)
In one of those tweets, he was quoting Legend from Finebaum. You are one with Legend.
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K, what are your thoughts on your Fuhrer being basically a bammer with nothing but adoration for AJ McCarron, Saban, and Bama?
This is the absolute dumbest argument you have made to date...
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http://time.com/4432779/donald-trump-gold-star-muslim-soldier-2/
Families of Fallen Soldiers Demand Donald Trump Apologize for ‘Repugnant’ Remarks
Melissa Chan @melissalchan 7:46 AM ET
“Ours is a sacrifice you will never know. Ours is a sacrifice we would never want you to know"
Families of nearly a dozen fallen soldiers on Monday demanded an apology from Donald Trump for “repugnant†remarks he made in response to the emotional speech given by a father of a slain Muslim Army captain at last week’s Democratic National Convention.
Eleven Gold Star families, those who lost loved ones serving the country’s military, wrote a joint letter to the Republican presidential nominee, accusing him of “cheapening the sacrifice†of their deceased relatives in the way he responded to the parents of Captain Humayun S.M. Khan.
Captain Khan, of Virginia, died in Iraq in 2004. His father, Khizr Khan, had criticized Trump’s call to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. last Thursday.
Trump, in response, said he has “made a lot of sacrifices†by creating “tens of thousands of jobs†during an interview with ABC News. He also questioned whether Khizr Khan’s wife, Ghazala, who was silent on stage next to her husband, was allowed to speak publicly as a Muslim woman.
“Your recent comments regarding the Khan family were repugnant, and personally offensive to us,†the Gold Star families said in their statement. “When you question a mother’s pain, by implying that her religion, not her grief, kept her from addressing an arena of people, you are attacking us.â€
“When you say your job building buildings is akin to our sacrifice, you are attacking our sacrifice,†it continued. “You are not just attacking us, you are cheapening the sacrifice made by those we lost. You are minimizing the risk our service members make for all of us.â€
The families called on the real estate mogul to apologize to the Khans, all Gold Star families and every American. “Ours is a sacrifice you will never know,†they wrote. “Ours is a sacrifice we would never want you to know.â€
Trump, first on Sunday and then again on Monday, tweeted that he was “viciously attacked†by Khizr Khan. Khan has said Trump’s reaction “proves that this person is void of empathy.â€
In a new interview Monday, Ghazala Khan told CNN her religion and culture has never stopped her from speaking out. Her husband called for Republican leaders and Trump’s advisors to rebuke him and “set him right.â€
“This is proof of his ignorance and arrogance,†Khizr Khan said. “Somebody should tell him that there is equal dignity, equal protection of law in this country.â€
I would say that shitting on Gold Star families is a new low, but it's not. Par for the course.
Let's hear about how he's a "MOOZLIM, NOT A REAL PERSON!" from the intellectuals in this thread...
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This is the absolute dumbest argument you have made to date...
Are you denying he tweeted those things?
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http://time.com/4432779/donald-trump-gold-star-muslim-soldier-2/
I would say that shitting on Gold Star families is a new low, but it's not. Par for the course.
Let's hear about how he's a "MOOZLIM, NOT A REAL PERSON!" from the intellectuals in this thread...
Manufactured outrage. Intended to distract from the treason committed by the crusty whore on the other side.
Worked on you.
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Manufactured outrage. Intended to distract from the treason committed by the crusty whore on the other side.
Worked on you.
The only person being dooped is Trump. And his followers, of course.
“Let’s see if we can goad Donald into attacking a war hero’s mother.â€
“No way, not even Donald Trump would …"
“Let’s just see.â€
He is an ignoramus that falls for the bait every time. He lacks the impulse control NOT to. Which will be great when he has the nuclear codes.
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Are you denying he tweeted those things?
No. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a stupid argument from you.
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No. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a stupid argument from you.
I just want Kevin to say he agrees with those tweets from Trump, since he thinks he's infallible.
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I just want Kevin to say he agrees with those tweets from Trump, since he thinks he's infallible.
No one here has ever said that.
You say we say that, but we don't.
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Fuckin' cuck establishment RINO John McCain with his perspective as a veteran and shit. What a pussy amirite? Prolly one a them secret MOOZLIMS, IYAM.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/john-mccain-denounces-donald-trumps-comments-on-family-of-muslim-soldier.html
John McCain Denounces Donald Trump’s Comments on Family of Muslim Soldier
By JENNIFER STEINHAUERAUG. 1, 2016
WASHINGTON — In a remarkable and lengthy rebuke of his party’s nominee, Senator John McCain sharply criticized Donald J. Trump’s comments about the family of a fallen Muslim Army captain, saying, “While our party has bestowed upon him the nomination, it is not accompanied by unfettered license to defame those who are the best among us.â€
Mr. McCain, a war hero whose service and capture in Vietnam was also once derided by Mr. Trump, had stayed largely silent over the weekend as Mr. Trump’s feud with the parents of Capt. Humayun Khan brewed, waiting until Monday morning to release a prepared statement.
“In recent days, Donald Trump disparaged a fallen soldier’s parents,†he wrote of the parents, Khizr and Ghazala Khan. “He has suggested that the likes of their son should not be allowed in the United States — to say nothing of entering its service. I cannot emphasize enough how deeply I disagree with Mr. Trump’s statement. I hope Americans understand that the remarks do not represent the views of our Republican Party, its officers or candidates.â€
Reverence for the military has been at the core of Mr. McCain’s career — he was his party’s nominee in 2008 and serves as chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee — and he has a close allegiance to families of those killed in conflict. Mr. McCain is now in a tough re-election battle in his home state of Arizona.
While his statement, like that of congressional Republican leaders, fell short of rescinding his reluctant endorsement of Mr. Trump, it was a detailed and personal condemnation.
“I wear a bracelet bearing the name of a fallen hero, Matthew Stanley, which his mother, Lynn, gave me in 2007 at a town-hall meeting in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire,†Mr. McCain wrote. “His memory and the memory of our great leaders deserve better from me.â€
“Make no mistake: I do not valorize our military out of some unfamiliar instinct,†he wrote. “I grew up in a military family, and have my own record of service, and have stayed closely engaged with our armed forces throughout my public career. In the American system, the military has value only inasmuch as it protects and defends the liberties of the people.â€
He added: “In the end, I am morally bound to speak only to the things that command my allegiance, and to which I have dedicated my life’s work: the Republican Party, and more important, the United States of America. I will not refrain from doing my utmost by those lights simply because it may benefit others with whom I disagree. I claim no moral superiority over Donald Trump. I have a long and well-known public and private record for which I will have to answer at the Final Judgment, and I repose my hope in the promise of mercy and the moderation of age. I challenge the nominee to set the example for what our country can and should represent.â€
Mr. McCain’s family has also been critical of Mr. Trump. His daughter Meghan McCain said on Twitter on Saturday: “I would ask what kind of barbarian would attack the parents of a fallen soldier, but oh yeah it’s the same person who attacks POW’s.â€
“Policy decisions aside, being president of the United States requires a steady hand — and never more so than now,†she wrote. “A competent commander-in-chief must respond to threats to the republic, but Trump only responds to threats to his ego.â€
Mr. McCain has also been a vocal proponent of American military aid in Ukraine and was almost certainly rankled by Mr. Trump’s comment over the weekend suggesting that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was not involved in military moves into the area in spite of the fact that he seized the Crimean Peninsula.
Despite the intensifying criticism from Republican Party leaders, Mr. Trump on Monday showed no sign of relenting in his clash with the Khan family. He has not apologized for his suggestion that Ms. Khan might have been forbidden from speaking at the Democratic convention, and he has not yet acknowledged the mounting criticism from respected Republicans like Mr. McCain.
Instead, the Trump campaign has tried to shift attention away from their candidate’s comments about the Khans and toward broader issues of national security, including Mr. Trump’s proposals to clamp down on immigration. In an emailed statement from Mr. Trump on Saturday evening, and a follow-up statement from Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana, his running mate, on Sunday, the campaign argued that the focus of the race should be on stopping terrorism.
But Mr. Trump on Monday morning continued to criticize Mr. Khan personally, complaining that the he had become a ubiquitous presence in the news media since his Thursday address at the convention in Philadelphia in which he denounced the Republican presidential nominee.
“Mr. Khan, who does not know me, viciously attacked me from the stage of the DNC and is now all over T.V. doing the same,†Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter. “Nice!â€
In a second post Mr. Trump shifted course and said the campaign should be focused on terrorism instead of the personal feud he has continued to feed. “This story is not about Mr. Khan, who is all over the place doing interviews, but rather RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM and the U.S.,†he wrote. “Get smart!â€
Democrats have already used Mr. Trump’s treatment of the Khan family to reopen past controversies surrounding Mr. Trump, including his mockery last summer of Mr. McCain’s service in Vietnam and his time as a prisoner of war. At a campaign stop in Youngstown, Ohio, on Saturday, Bill Clinton likened Mr. Trump’s harshness toward the Khan family to his ridicule of Mr. McCain.
But Mr. Clinton suggested Mr. Trump’s handling of the Khans was even worse, because their son did not survive the Iraq war.
“I was crazed by the attack on Senator McCain. But at least he survived,†Mr. Clinton said. “That man gave his life for his unit.â€
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No one here has ever said that.
You say we say that, but we don't.
Bullshit.
He could pull his micropenis out and fuck a pie on the debate stage while simultaneously shitting himself, and K will post here about how dignified it is and IT DOESN'T MATTER, etc. etc.
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Bullshit.
He could pull his micropenis out and fuck a pie on the debate stage while simultaneously shitting himself, and K will post here about how dignified it is and IT DOESN'T MATTER, etc. etc.
Thinking he has a micropenis doesn't matter and that he is "infallible" are two different things.
I think most here acknowledge his mistakes and short comings, but voting for Hillary is not an option.
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Thinking he has a micropenis doesn't matter and that he is "infallible" are two different things.
I think most here acknowledge his mistakes and short comings, but voting for Hillary is not an option.
Your eyesight is 20/20.
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Which will be great when he has the nuclear codes.
At least he won't sell them or leave them in a foreign country to die.
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http://time.com/4432779/donald-trump-gold-star-muslim-soldier-2/
I would say that shitting on Gold Star families is a new low, but it's not. Par for the course.
Let's hear about how he's a "MOOZLIM, NOT A REAL PERSON!" from the intellectuals in this thread...
You know because Trump saying "I made some sacrifices" is SOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse than Hillary telling the mother of a man she caused to be killed by her bumbling in Benghazi "I never said it was about a video, even though there is video of me saying it was because of a video. So no, I didn't lie to you..."
Bitch.
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McCain became irrelevant several years ago.
The fact that you attempt to use him as a valid argument against Trump continues to prove your irrelevancy also.
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With every passing day I am more convinced than ever that Trump is not fit to hold the office of the President. Neither is Hillary. I'm also not big on Johnson (heh heh).
I literally have nobody to vote for. I never envisioned being in this position. In the past I've been able to justify holding my nose and pulling the lever for a McCain or Romney. I didn't agree with those guys on everything but at least I felt like they had the country's best interest at heart. Not so with Trump. He doesn't give a damn about liberty or conservatism in the least.
A Mondale-level landslide is coming. Here in GA we have Hillary and Trump tied. He's never gotten above the 40's in freaking UTAH. The guy is toxic and will only become moreso between now and November.
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With every passing day I am more convinced than ever that Trump is not fit to hold the office of the President. Neither is Hillary. I'm also not big on Johnson (heh heh).
Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
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With every passing day I am more convinced than ever that Trump is not fit to hold the office of the President. Neither is Hillary. I'm also not big on Johnson (heh heh).
I literally have nobody to vote for. I never envisioned being in this position. In the past I've been able to justify holding my nose and pulling the lever for a McCain or Romney. I didn't agree with those guys on everything but at least I felt like they had the country's best interest at heart. Not so with Trump. He doesn't give a damn about liberty or conservatism in the least.
A Mondale-level landslide is coming. Here in GA we have Hillary and Trump tied. He's never gotten above the 40's in freaking UTAH. The guy is toxic and will only become moreso between now and November.
Johnson has some decent economic policy with taxes and regulation. But his border policy is atrocious. It's actually worse than Hillarys. And if anyone doesn't think amnesty or open borders is a huge issue then you need to do some more critical thinking on the matter.
But where I'll disagree with you is this: I think it's not a landslide. Only would be by his own doing. This is his election to win. As long as he keeps picking silly squabbles with Hispanic judges and Muslim parents of a dead solider, then yeah that's where he will head to. But if Manafort keeps him on topic, he could end up winning pretty sizably. He had some great momentum last week even during the Dnc. And he's totally blown it this week with the Muslim parent squabble. And it doesn't have to do with him being right or wrong on the topic itself. It's the pr. This is where the media crucifies him and even people on the right scratch their heads. We've now seen coverage of him and these two parents for a week while the world burns. That is not what people want to hear. So it's seriously his to lose. I think if he stays on topic he wins. If he doesn't then he won't. That simple.
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With every passing day I am more convinced than ever that Trump is not fit to hold the office of the President. Neither is Hillary. I'm also not big on Johnson (heh heh).
I literally have nobody to vote for. I never envisioned being in this position. In the past I've been able to justify holding my nose and pulling the lever for a McCain or Romney. I didn't agree with those guys on everything but at least I felt like they had the country's best interest at heart. Not so with Trump. He doesn't give a damn about liberty or conservatism in the least.
A Mondale-level landslide is coming. Here in GA we have Hillary and Trump tied. He's never gotten above the 40's in freaking UTAH. The guy is toxic and will only become moreso between now and November.
Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
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With every passing day I am more convinced than ever that Trump is not fit to hold the office of the President. Neither is Hillary. I'm also not big on Johnson (heh heh).
I literally have nobody to vote for. I never envisioned being in this position. In the past I've been able to justify holding my nose and pulling the lever for a McCain or Romney. I didn't agree with those guys on everything but at least I felt like they had the country's best interest at heart. Not so with Trump. He doesn't give a damn about liberty or conservatism in the least.
A Mondale-level landslide is coming. Here in GA we have Hillary and Trump tied. He's never gotten above the 40's in freaking UTAH. The guy is toxic and will only become moreso between now and November.
Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
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Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
Well put.
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Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
you do realize that WarEagle!!! said the exact same thing?
wth? nice try JR Dallas.
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you do realize that WarEagle!!! said the exact same thing?
wth? nice try JR Dallas.
Guilty as charged.
an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:
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With every passing day I am more convinced than ever that Trump is not fit to hold the office of the President. Neither is Hillary. I'm also not big on Johnson (heh heh).
I literally have nobody to vote for. I never envisioned being in this position. In the past I've been able to justify holding my nose and pulling the lever for a McCain or Romney. I didn't agree with those guys on everything but at least I felt like they had the country's best interest at heart. Not so with Trump. He doesn't give a damn about liberty or conservatism in the least.
A Mondale-level landslide is coming. Here in GA we have Hillary and Trump tied. He's never gotten above the 40's in freaking UTAH. The guy is toxic and will only become moreso between now and November.
Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shoot up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shoot to folks who don't do shoot. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
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Did Michelle Obama write that?
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Did Michelle Obama write that?
No, but you can bet your ass that bitch stole it from somewhere.
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Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shoot up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shoot to folks who don't do shoot. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
I am finally starting to agree with you.
Well said.
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Has anyone considered "letting the house bust" to use a blackjack metaphor?
The next presidency is guaranteed to be a disaster. We can have our qualms about which would be worse, but I think it's pretty universally agreed that it will be bad no matter what.
Either Hillary can be in charge and the Democratic brand will take a hit, or the GOP who allowed inept Trump at the helm will be, and it will, IMO devastate the party for years to come, maybe forever. It could make them the next Whig party.
Even if you don't think it's that dire, in the very least, you'll have a chance to reboot in 4 years. Trump wins, that's not on the table and you have to vote for him again in the next election.
Why do that?
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My dad thinks he's a DNC plant. And I'm starting to agree.
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My dad thinks he's a DNC plant. And I'm starting to agree.
wait, WarEagle!!! is your daddy?
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My dad thinks he's a DNC plant. And I'm starting to agree.
I've said that since pretty much page one and was derided as a lunatic.
I'm not saying I 100% know it to be fact. But I couldn't think of anything he would do different if he were…
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Has anyone considered "letting the house bust" to use a blackjack metaphor?
The next presidency is guaranteed to be a disaster. We can have our qualms about which would be worse, but I think it's pretty universally agreed that it will be bad no matter what.
Either Hillary can be in charge and the Democratic brand will take a hit, or the GOP who allowed inept Trump at the helm will be, and it will, IMO devastate the party for years to come, maybe forever. It could make them the next Whig party.
Even if you don't think it's that dire, in the very least, you'll have a chance to reboot in 4 years. Trump wins, that's not on the table and you have to vote for him again in the next election.
Why do that?
A) Because I'm not a squealing liberal baby who thinks Trump will be a disaster
B) Because I think Trump is a businessman first and as such is smart enough to hire people and put them in positions to make a difference and to succeed.
C) Because I think if Trump wins thing will be different enough in four years that we might just want to keep him around.
D) Because I think Trump is a patriot who puts America's needs first and Hillary is a Euro-globalist who is all about being Empress. No thank you.
If Trump wins, I have every confidence that I'll be even more in support of him the next time around.
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I've said that since pretty much page one and was derided as a lunatic.
I'm not saying I 100% know it to be fact. But I couldn't think of anything he would do different if he were…
Well.... that wasn't the ONLY reason.
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I've said that since pretty much page one and was derided as a lunatic.
I'm not saying I 100% know it to be fact. But I couldn't think of anything he would do different if he were…
not to burst your egg, ego...whatever you want to call it but WarEagle!!! said that well before you did on page one.
majority of exit polls still think you're a lunatic, regardless.
smooches.
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Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
^^^His moments of clarity are few and far between but when he has 'em, damn if he doesn't do some fine posting.
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^^^His moments of clarity are few and far between but when he has 'em, damn if he doesn't do some fine posting.
Agreed !
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not to burst your egg, ego...whatever you want to call it but WarEagle!!! said that well before you did on page one.
majority of exit polls still think you're a lunatic, regardless.
smooches.
False. I said it way back when no one still thought he had a chance, and no one took issue with this criticism but CCTAU. Because. Well...
http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=25887.msg400527#msg400527
Only since you asked.
Here's how I'd rank the nominees on both sides:
Like/Would Definitely Vote For
1. Rubio - Clearly the smartest, most experienced candidate that knows what the fuck he's talking about. Latino and young vote would bump him into a win for the Rs.
2. Fiorina - Also very smart. Everything people like about Trump is also true about Fiorina, except she actually knows how to discuss foreign, or hell, domestic policies without sounding like a bafoon. She probably is the most articulate and intelligent when it comes to this. Also she negates Hillary's entire campaign that simply being a woman is her top qualification.
3. Kasich - You guys probably think he's a RINO, but I think he is one of the few Rs to consistently display common sense.
4. Paul - The closest to a real libertarian. He was my for sure #1 early in the campaign, but I've faltered on him. Mainly because I don't believe he has any real chance, and also because he's compromised a lot, presumably to try to win the Republican primary. Double-edged sword I guess, but he's not navigating it well on either side.
Neutral/Might Vote For, But Probably Would Just Stay Home
5. Jeb! - For much of the same reason I don't like Hillary, I don't like Jeb. The Bush name is tainted to your average voter. Let alone played out. Need fresh blood, not a dynasty. And the idea that he was the smarter, stronger Bush has been wearing out momentously. He appears to be a pussy version of W.
6. Chris Christie - Fascist authoritarian. Hates the "Libertarian thread" of the Republican party. Big against pot. Big on the Patriot Act. I don't care for it.
7. Martin O'Malley - Yep, the Dem. No I don't like him, but I dislike about the same amount of things about him as Christie. He at least is articulate and just seems presidential. Note that I would have put Chafee and Webb either at the top of this section or the bottom of the previous section, around 5 & 6, but they both dropped out.
8. Ted Cruz - Goober.
Dislike/Would definitely not be motivated to vote for and would probably Actively Vote against
9. Mike Huckabee - Religious nutjub, IMO. I know that doesn't play here, but that's my opinion on the man. The Kim Davis shit was a clown show.
10. Hillary Clinton - For starters, the same reason I don't like Jeb! Add to that that she is the definition of nontransparent authoritarian government. The emails and Benghazi stuff is proof enough to me that she will lie and deceive for political gain. Fuck her.
11. Ben Carson - I want to cheer for this guy. A black brain surgeon? Sounds like an automatic win for the Rs. I hesitate to call him stupid due to his profession, but if I didn't know that about him I would swear he was dumber than Palin. He says outlandishly crazy/stupid things with frequency. He's a neuroscientist. Great. He's not a political scientist. When you push specifically to get an "outsider" that isn't tainted by the political system, what you're really saying is you want someone completely unqualified to run the country to run the country. Like saying you want my grandmother who has never used a computer to be your IT person. Just, no.
STRONGLY dislike/Would actively vote against because they will destroy the country if elected
12. Bernie Sanders - Self described socialist, as if you didn't know. His economic plan will drive us so far into debt, we will become his utopian Cuba with the quickness. He can brainwash people that only the top 1% billionaires with yachts will be punished with his tax plan, but they are idiots if they think that math adds up. He will be taxing the upper middle class i.e. most everyone here upwards of 50% to pay for the shit he's dreamed up.
13. Donald Trump - This guy is a complete and utter fucking idiot, and frankly, you are too if you don't immediately recognize it every time he opens his mouth. He says a whole lot of nothing about nothing every single time. But he's gonna make the economy classy and do it better than the other guy cause he's not ugly and super rich and wicked smart. Or something. I don't care if he was a successful business person, which arguably, he wasn't. Good for him that he turned a ton of money into a ton more money. That does not in any way, shape, or form qualify him for the presidency. Like I said about Fiorina, at least she clearly knows what she's talking about. Give her a question on Hezbollah and Hamas and she will answer intelligently. Trump would say he never cared for Greek food. He is a clown. Any international respect we had would be obliterated for good if we elect that imbecile. He is president Hector Camacho from Idiocracy. Words cannot explain how disastrous that would be for our country. And furthermore, I'm not convinced he isn't a Hillary plant sent specifically to make Republicans look like buffoons. He donated to the Clinton foundation, and there are nothing about any of his policies (the few he was able to articulate to begin with) that are "conservative". Not being PC is not the same as not being a belligerent asshole.
My $0.02.
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I've waffled back and forth on trumps true intentions. With all the resources money and campaigning he and his family have thrown into this thing now, I have to believe his intent is sincere at this point, even if it wasn't at some point before.
I think he was as surprised as anyone that he got the nod. I think he wanted to test the waters and get in to shake it up enough to make a dent and then get out. I think that he thought he could affect the race, not win it. But now he's won it. And wants that last notch on his career built. It's the only thing he hasn't done in his career and frankly the only thing left to do for him. He is looking at this as his crowning achievement and the last chapter of his legacy.
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I've waffled back and forth on trumps true intentions. With all the resources money and campaigning he and his family have thrown into this thing now, I have to believe his intent is sincere at this point, even if it wasn't at some point before.
Whut?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/
Trump directs nearly one-fifth of his money to his own businesses
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Whut?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/
So would you rather him pay another company to do this?
This article and the media's fucking skewing of facts is such bullshit. It costs to travel around on a plane, might as well use your own.
Why the fuck the media (and you) harp on shit like this while giving Clinton a COMPLETE PASS about the Clinton Foundation is what is wrong with the whole fucking thing...
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Whut?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/
All of that aside, he has spent a lot of money out of pocket - period. The loaning, paying back, moving it around etc etc doesn't make that go away. I just don't think you pour this kind of time and resource into something as part of a sham. Not at this point in the game.
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I've waffled back and forth on trumps true intentions. With all the resources money and campaigning he and his family have thrown into this thing now, I have to believe his intent is sincere at this point, even if it wasn't at some point before.
I think he was as surprised as anyone that he got the nod. I think he wanted to test the waters and get in to shake it up enough to make a dent and then get out. I think that he thought he could affect the race, not win it. But now he's won it. And wants that last notch on his career built. It's the only thing he hasn't done in his career and frankly the only thing left to do for him. He is looking at this as his crowning achievement and the last chapter of his legacy.
I have to think he's been all in from the start. In addition, given his Trump Tower sized ego, I don't think the man has been surprised by any of it. Prepared to handle any of it? That's a whole other story.
I say he was all in because if you think back to how it all started, he came out guns-a-blazin' with his comments on immigration. Businesses, networks, beauty pageants, golf tourneys etc. were disassociating themselves from him quicker than Bama cut ties with Tom Al-Betar....wait....bad analogy. We've all said he may suck royally at teh politics, but the guy is one of the most savvy business men in the world. I don't think he allows all that to happen if he's not jumping in with both feet and saying damn the consequences.
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A) Because I'm not a squealing liberal baby who thinks Trump will be a disaster
B) Because I think Trump is a businessman first and as such is smart enough to hire people and put them in positions to make a difference and to succeed.
C) Because I think if Trump wins thing will be different enough in four years that we might just want to keep him around.
D) Because I think Trump is a patriot who puts America's needs first and Hillary is a Euro-globalist who is all about being Empress. No thank you.
If Trump wins, I have every confidence that I'll be even more in support of him the next time around.
And the more the established "politicians" (really lazy fucks who really don't want to work) come out against him the more I think they are scared of what he may find and hopefully clean it up. The more I hope middle America (the working class) votes for him.
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So would you rather him pay another company to do this?
This article and the media's fucking skewing of facts is such bullshit. It costs to travel around on a plane, might as well use your own.
Why the fuck the media (and you) harp on shit like this while giving Clinton a COMPLETE PASS about the Clinton Foundation is what is wrong with the whole fucking thing...
What do you not understand that more money is coming INTO HIS POCKETS from campaigning than coming out?
GH2001's argument that he MUST be serious because he's losing his personal money on his campaign is just patently false.
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What do you not understand that more money is coming INTO HIS POCKETS from campaigning than coming out?
GH2001's argument that he MUST be serious because he's losing his personal money on his campaign is just patently false.
No it's actually an opinion that differs from yours. I'm of the opinion that the behavior he's demonstrating shows he is serious about the bid. Your of the opinion that he is not serious. More money (and time. And resources. And time away from the company. And his family's time) has come out of his coffers than into them. Maybe not since he got the nod. But overall they have. You are purely focusing on monetary as well when I also referenced much more than monetary that factored into why I think he is serious.
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Just for shit and giggles, what happens if?
Second set of E-mails are released and the "beast" gets indicted. She gets out.
Trump says fuck it and he drops out.
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Just for shit and giggles, what happens if?
Second set of E-mails are released and the "beast" gets indicted. She gets out.
Trump says fuck it and he drops out.
Then Bernie assumes the role. Beats trump. And we all get to pay lots of taxes so that prowler can get free shit.
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What do you not understand that more money is coming INTO HIS POCKETS from campaigning than coming out?
GH2001's argument that he MUST be serious because he's losing his personal money on his campaign is just patently false.
You do realize that they ALL put money into their pockets, right?
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Then Bernie assumes the role. Beats trump. And we all get to pay lots of taxes so that prowler can get free shit.
Game tickets?????
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Would you guys think differently of Trump if he was a native of Auburn and an Auburn graduate?
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Would you guys think differently of Trump if he was a native of Auburn and an Auburn graduate?
For me this isn't really what I think about Trump, this is more about what I know and fear about her.
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Would you guys think differently of Trump if he was a native of Auburn and an Auburn graduate?
Yep. I think we'd have a bigger stadium. One to match our new Megatron UltraJumbo XJ 6000 scoreboard.
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Personally, I believe that War Eagle!!! said it best when he said:
Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:
Trump-Maybe changes made.
Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)
Johnson-Wasted vote.
Or, was that CCTAU?
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What do you not understand that more money is coming INTO HIS POCKETS from campaigning than coming out?
GH2001's argument that he MUST be serious because he's losing his personal money on his campaign is just patently false.
Who do you think is gaining from the private jet that is flying Hillary around everywhere? Do you think there is a company out there that made it worth it for the Clintons to choose them?
Just because Trump has his own tower to host fundraisers and his own plane to travel around, and pays those fees from the donations (like every other fucking politican) doesn't mean he is lining his own pockets with campaign money.
If you can't read that article and figure that out, then I am sorry. You are being brainwashed by the "unbiased media".
The setup shows how unusual Trump's campaign is -- presidential candidates generally don't own buildings or resorts in multiple states or companies that could be used as contractors.
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Yep. I think we'd have a bigger stadium. One to match our new Megatron UltraJumbo XJ 6000 scoreboard.
Trump would have long since replacd JJ.
Why, for the love of god, can't Reagan Jr be a conservative and just like his father?
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Would you guys think differently of Trump if he was a native of Auburn and an Auburn graduate?
And hella good taco bowls at halftime.
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And hella good taco bowls at halftime.
He loves Sweets.
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And hella good taco bowls at halftime.
I would prefer a Melania halftime show on the jumbotron.
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Would you guys think differently of Trump if he was a native of Auburn and an Auburn graduate?
For me this isn't really what I think about Trump, this is more about what I know and fear about her.
Actually ,I would think very highly of him as an AU grad if his kid went there and could play QB.
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Then Bernie assumes the role. Beats trump. And we all get to pay lots of taxes so that prowler can get free shit.
"Pay lots of taxes"...you misspelled pay what is due if you are among the top 1% (ie; no more tax cuts) and close the tax loopholes.
Also, who doesn't like free shit?
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Would you guys think differently of Trump if he was a native of Auburn and an Auburn graduate?
I'd be ashamed if he was a Auburn graduate.
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Also, who doesn't like free shit?
Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I know this one. .... How about the people who have to pay for the "free" shit?
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Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I know this one. .... How about the people who have to pay for the "free" shit?
Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I know this one ... the top 1% that haven't been paying what they owe and using tax loopholes, that's who.
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If Hillary gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know.
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Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I know this one ... the top 1% that haven't been paying what they owe and using tax loopholes, that's who.
Fail on every level possible.
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Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I know this one ... the top 1% that haven't been paying what they owe and using tax loopholes, that's who.
This is a fucking myth.
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If Hillary gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know.
He meant vote for him dumbass media drones.
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He loves Sweets.
The name is "ShugDye" now!
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I'd be ashamed if he was a Auburn graduate.
I'll take this one...
Kinda the way we feel about you!
Every school has them.
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I'll take this one...
Kinda the way we feel about you!
Every school has them.
Hey now, watch it!
He may be an embarrassment to the x but he's our embarrassment. Or something like that.
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Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I know this one ... the top 1% that haven't been paying what they owe and using tax loopholes, that's who.
Agree and disagree. Yes the uber rich and hedge fund managers do indeed need to pay their fair share in the true sense of the phrase. I don't think anyone thinks that warren buffet or George Soros or Mitt Romney having a lower effective executive than you and I is right. But the 1% are not the only people that Bernie and others on that side consider "rich". It started with just millionaires. Then creeps down to 250k (Obama 2008) and now per the tax code the huge jump is right around 6 figures. Anything in that bracket or above is going to get an increase. Period.
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If Hillary gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know.
He meant vote for him dumbass media drones.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpdZIy0UMAA7wCY.jpg:large)
Do you ever get tired of "translating" for him? And no, he didn't mean that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf2STe6Cb-g
First of all, I heard a bit of a tell in there that he is not one of "the second amendment people". He's saying "those 2nd amendment people" can exercise their 2nd amendment to stop her from abolishing the 2nd amendment. First of all, she doesn't want to do that (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/21/donald-trump/despite-new-adverb-trumps-claim-about-clinton-want/), but whatever.
But if you really think the verbal and mental gymnastics that the 2nd amendment people, uniquely, can vote for him instead of her (Unlike the "lower taxes" people or the "reduce regulations" people or the "expand energy production people" that he just mentioned) is all that he meant, you're being willfully ignorant, plain and simple.
He's clearly "joking" about murdering her. Watch the people in the background laugh at the "joke".
Stupid or liar?
Reagan's daughter didn't think it was so funny.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpjcP-KUsAEt3Gw.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpdZIy0UMAA7wCY.jpg:large)
Do you ever get tired of "translating" for him? And no, he didn't mean that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf2STe6Cb-g
First of all, I heard a bit of a tell in there that he is not one of "the second amendment people". He's saying "those 2nd amendment people" can exercise their 2nd amendment to stop her from abolishing the 2nd amendment. First of all, she doesn't want to do that (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/21/donald-trump/despite-new-adverb-trumps-claim-about-clinton-want/), but whatever.
But if you really think the verbal and mental gymnastics that the 2nd amendment people, uniquely, can vote for him instead of her (Unlike the "lower taxes" people or the "reduce regulations" people or the "expand energy production people" that he just mentioned) is all that he meant, you're being willfully ignorant, plain and simple.
He's clearly "joking" about murdering her. Watch the people in the background laugh at the "joke".
Stupid or liar?
Reagan's daughter didn't think it was so funny.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpjcP-KUsAEt3Gw.jpg)
But he has "no issues down there folks. Ok?"
LYIN' TED errrbody!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpdZIy0UMAA7wCY.jpg:large)
Do you ever get tired of "translating" for him? And no, he didn't mean that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf2STe6Cb-g
First of all, I heard a bit of a tell in there that he is not one of "the second amendment people". He's saying "those 2nd amendment people" can exercise their 2nd amendment to stop her from abolishing the 2nd amendment. First of all, she doesn't want to do that (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/21/donald-trump/despite-new-adverb-trumps-claim-about-clinton-want/), but whatever.
But if you really think the verbal and mental gymnastics that the 2nd amendment people, uniquely, can vote for him instead of her (Unlike the "lower taxes" people or the "reduce regulations" people or the "expand energy production people" that he just mentioned) is all that he meant, you're being willfully ignorant, plain and simple.
He's clearly "joking" about murdering her. Watch the people in the background laugh at the "joke".
Stupid or liar?
Reagan's daughter didn't think it was so funny.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpjcP-KUsAEt3Gw.jpg)
I have nothing against you personally. But you have descended into a media fueled level of lunacy that is -- quite frankly -- terrifying.
If the media can get someone as intelligent as I believe you to be to give credence to this asinine shit? It worries me how easily the rest of the sheep can be led.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjd8nnZpd30
For fuck's sake, where does the idiocy end?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/12/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-isis.html
Donald Trump, Insisting He Won’t Change His Style, Repeats Claim Obama Founded ISIS
By MAGGIE HABERMANAUG. 11, 2016
Donald J. Trump, reaffirming his contention that President Obama was effectively a “founder†of the Islamic State terrorist group, said Thursday that he intended to stick by his unorthodox campaign style, even if it meant taking “a very, very nice long vacation†after Nov. 8.
In interviews on Thursday morning, Mr. Trump sounded an uncharacteristically fatalistic note, acknowledging the possibility he could be defeated on Election Day.
Mr. Trump pledged on CNBC to “just keep doing the same thing I’m doing right now,†adding that he was the only presidential candidate who tells things “straight†and is “a truth-teller.â€
“At the end, it’s either going to work or I’m going to, you know, I’m going to have a very, very nice long vacation,†he added.
It was a rare instance in which Mr. Trump has conceded that his approach might not work.
Mr. Trump also defended his portrayal of the president as a “founder†of ISIS, despite criticism that the claim was both inaccurate and inflammatory. In a rally on Wednesday night in Sunrise, Fla., Mr. Trump suggested that the Islamic State “honors†Mr. Obama, and he went out of his way to refer to “the administration of Barack Hussein Obama,†emphasizing the president’s middle name.
Thursday’s interviews came three days after Mr. Trump’s advisers suggested that the candidate had achieved a new level of discipline after delivering a fairly comprehensive economic address in Detroit.
On CNBC’s “Squawk Box†on Thursday morning, when an interviewer pressed Mr. Trump on the propriety of his claim about Mr. Obama’s responsibility for the rise of the Islamic State, Mr. Trump said it was “absolutely†the case and added: “Is there something wrong with saying that? Are people complaining that I said he was the founder of ISIS?â€
Later, in an interview with the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, Mr. Trump was given an opportunity to explain that he meant the claim only theoretically. But Mr. Trump would not budge.
“You meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace,†Mr. Hewitt suggested, leaving Mr. Trump an opening.
“No, I meant he’s the founder of ISIS. I do,†Mr. Trump said. “He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.â€
“But he’s not sympathetic to them,†Mr. Hewitt replied, referring to President Obama. “He hates them. He’s trying to kill them.â€
“I don’t care,†Mr. Trump replied. “He was the founder. His, the way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, O.K.?â€
Jake Sullivan, a senior policy adviser for Mrs. Clinton, responded by accusing Mr. Trump of “echoing the talking points of Putin and our adversaries to attack American leaders and American interests.â€
“This is another example of Donald Trump trash-talking the United States,†Mr. Sullivan said in a statement. “It goes without saying that this is a false claim from a presidential candidate with an aversion to the truth and an unprecedented lack of knowledge.â€
Undeterred, Mr. Trump continued to press the line of attack during a late-morning speech to the National Association of Home Builders in Miami.
“Our government has unleashed ISIS,†Mr. Trump said, drawing little response. “I call President Obama and Hillary Clinton the founders of ISIS. They’re the founders. I think I’ll give Hillary Clinton most valuable player, the M.V.P. award. Her only competition is Barack Obama.â€
Despite the provocative suggestion, Mr. Trump sounded relatively subdued during his remarks, speaking in a hushed tone about the grim state of the country and the havoc that Mrs. Clinton would wreak as president.
He also spent considerable time praising the construction industry’s role in supporting the economy and reminisced about his childhood days learning the business.
As for his presidential campaign, Mr. Trump tried to put a positive spin on poll numbers that have been looking increasingly bad for him.
“The polls are tightening up,†Mr. Trump said. “Clinton is getting a little bit nervous. Crooked Hillary is getting a little concerned.â€
He added, “A new poll came out this morning that showed us essentially very close to even.â€
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Here is how I KNOW that Trump is a plant and some of you are dumb enough to fall for it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/09/orlando-shooters-father-spotted-at-clinton-rally/
Orlando shooter’s father spotted at Clinton rally
https://youtu.be/3z3LrOj3IL0
This is like manna from heaven for a competent political opponent. She fucking not only has the support of the father of the terrorist behind the worst attack since 9/11, who broadcasts an anti-US/pro-Al-Qaeda TV show from his apartment to Afghanistan, she fucking sat him behind her at one of her rallies.
Unreal right? Any competent Republican would just put that baby in cruise control.
So what does Trump do? Besides advocate shooting Hillary or state matter-of-factly that the President of the United States is the "founder" of ISIS? Fucking TWO days after sit-a-bad-person-behind-you-at-your-rally-gate? Sit a disgraced child-molesting congressman prominently behind him.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/donald-trump-mark-foley-campaign-rally/
I don't believe that level of incompetence can possibly be an accident. He's working overtime to take the spotlight off of her and onto him.
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I have nothing against you personally. But you have descended into a media fueled level of lunacy that is -- quite frankly -- terrifying.
If the media can get someone as intelligent as I believe you to be to give credence to this asinine shit? It worries me how easily the rest of the sheep can be led.
Why were those people in the video laughing if he didn't mean it as a joke about killing Hillary? Explain why they all decided to laugh at that moment?
Why did he say that in the tone he uses every time he cracks a little joke? Why did he say it at all and not say it about the other "lower taxes" people or the "reduce regulations" people or the "expand energy production people" that he just mentioned?
You know why.
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For fudge's sake, where does the idiocy end?
I'm guessing around 8pm central time, on Tuesday, November 8th.
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I'm guessing around 8pm central time, on Tuesday, November 8th.
Your guess would be wrong....that's when it will go into overdrive.
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I'm guessing around 8pm central time, on Tuesday, November 8th.
I would say that is when it really starts. :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Your guess would be wrong....that's when it will go into overdrive.
It's go time!
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It's go time!
Mandelbaum, Mandelbaum, Mandelbaum.
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Thoughts on this? Anyone?
http://youtu.be/kSE-XoVKaXg
And this?
The real estate magnate has a long history of delivering admiring comments about the woman he now calls the “worst Secretary of State in the history of the United States,†and a “desperate†and “sad†candidate.
When Clinton last ran for office, Trump was torn between supporting her and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. †They’re both terrific people, and I hope they both get the nomination,†he told CNN in 2007, adding that he thought Clinton would surround herself with good people to negotiate a deal with Iran. A year later, Trump wondered publicly why Clinton wasn’t chosen as President Obama’s running-mate.
In 2012, as Obama was running for re-election, Trump called Clinton “terrific†again in an interview with Fox News, saying she performed well as Secretary of State.
“Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman,†he told Greta Van Susteren. “I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she’s given an agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her.
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Why were those people in the video laughing if he didn't mean it as a joke about killing Hillary? Explain why they all decided to laugh at that moment?
Why did he say that in the tone he uses every time he cracks a little joke? Why did he say it at all and not say it about the other "lower taxes" people or the "reduce regulations" people or the "expand energy production people" that he just mentioned?
You know why.
Why is he not destroying Hillary?
Ask CNN. MSNBC. NBC. CBS. USA Today. The NY Times. Boston Globe. Washington Post.
Because THIS piddly shit is what they are focusing on while the most corrupt, evil and power mad bitch who may have ever lived skates on treason, coercion and bribery. That's why.
And you. You are their puppet.
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Why is he not destroying Hillary?
Ask CNN. MSNBC. NBC. CBS. USA Today. The NY Times. Boston Globe. Washington Post.
Because THIS piddly shit is what they are focusing on while the most corrupt, evil and power mad bitch who may have ever lived skates on treason, coercion and bribery. That's why.
And you. You are their puppet.
I get what you are saying.
But he knows this. And you cannot give them ammunition or fuel.
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I get what you are saying.
But he knows this. And you cannot give them ammunition or fuel.
Unless you're intentionally trying to lose...
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I get what you are saying.
But he knows this. And you cannot give them ammunition or fuel.
He is who he is. There is no politician in there.
And Obummer DID create ISIS.
Jizzy has gone off the deep end.
I only pray that if she wins, his ilk loses their shit first.
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Thoughts on this? Anyone?
http://youtu.be/kSE-XoVKaXg
And this?
Mr. Trump isn't able to address this, so I will do it for him. And in the manner and words in which I believe that he would rebuff.
Answer: " Yes, I have thoughts. I think you are a moron. A complete lying jackass.
There was not one, single contradiction in that entire montage because the person who put that together...who is a communist by the way....took every word out of context.
I mean, sure, I have changed my opinions on some things through the years. I think most people will agree that's how we grow as humans. We advance through being enlightened, which is what I'm bringing to the presidency. Enlightenment people!
And GH, you are idiotic, sir. An idiot. Hillary is the worst candidate we've ever had. Ever! And that's including Bernie Sanders, who would've beat her if people didn't start getting whacked but that's another story. Maybe she can email it to you if she can find it.
Bottom line is Hillary is crooked and GH is a moronic idiot for even posting this. The worst poster in x history, most people agree.
Next question?"
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Unless you're intentionally trying to lose...
And there is that.
That's my question. Why on earth would you feed the piranha infested media bulletin board material? Makes no sense.
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Mr. Trump isn't able to address this, so I will do it for him. And in the manner and words in which I believe that he would rebuff.
Answer: " Yes, I have thoughts. I think you are a moron. A complete lying jackass.
There was not one, single contradiction in that entire montage because the person who put that together...who is a communist by the way....took every word out of context.
I mean, sure, I have changed my opinions on some things through the years. I think most people will agree that's how we grow as humans. We advance through being enlightened, which is what I'm bringing to the presidency. Enlightenment people!
And GH, you are idiotic, sir. An idiot. Hillary is the worst candidate we've ever had. Ever! And that's including Bernie Sanders, who would've beat her if people didn't start getting whacked but that's another story. Maybe she can email it to you if she can find it.
Bottom line is Hillary is crooked and GH is a moronic idiot for even posting this. The worst poster in x history, most people agree.
Next question?"
Now that you are done fingering your own asshole, do you care to refute the video with anything of substance? I'm seriously asking. At least cct was honest.
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Now that you are done fingering your own asshole, do you care to refute the video with anything of substance? I'm seriously asking. At least cct was honest.
WT stays two digits deep in the dumper.
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Hey guys! Smell my finger!
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WT stays two digits deep in the dumper.
Somewhere along the way, someone told him he was funny and did him a huge disservice.
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Somewhere along the way, someone told him he was funny and did him a huge disservice.
yiu mean funny like ha ha?
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Somewhere along the way, someone told him he was funny and did him a huge disservice.
Your words have wisdom, pale face.
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Thoughts on this? Anyone?
http://youtu.be/kSE-XoVKaXg
And this?
The thing is that he was a public figure with no filter and a big ego who just said whatever popped into his head and enjoyed the sound of his own voice.
There's a big difference between that and somebody who has to run the country and conform to a political platform. There's a big difference between you and I just saying whatever the hell we think and you and I running for office and answering questions or in debates or issuing policy. As a private citizen he could just pop off with the next random thought because it didn't matter. Now it does.
I'd hate to think there had been a camera following me every day for the last 20 years, recording what I said and then holding on to it to use it against me.
Do the same thing with that hideous horrible bitch. You could post a month-long non-stop video of her contradicting herself, lying with every word she said.
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Do the same thing with that hideous horrible bitch. You could post a month-long non-stop video of her contradicting herself, lying with every word she said.
Its out there. You can't get them to run it...
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Its out there. You can't get them to run it...
At no point in my life have I ever said a good thing about Hillary. Private, public, whatever. And will never. But trump did. And that bewilders me.
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At no point in my life have I ever said a good thing about Hillary. Private, public, whatever. And will never. But trump did. And that bewilders me.
Because he's a businessman. You don't shit where you eat.
When you might need her to help you out with a business deal at some point down the line, you don't trash her. Or anybody else.
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Driving home this evening, I saw a sign in someone's yard.
EVERYONE SUCKS
2016
I chortled aloud.
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He meant vote for him dumbass media drones.
You are a moron if you think atleast one of his followers won't take that to mean take up arms against Hillary (think Harvey Updyke inbred bama fan type). All it takes is one. I'm sure Trump would pay the legal fees.
Also, Trump can turn his horde into rage simply by pointing out a journalist and say that she should apologize for lying about the violence at his rallies (she wrote a piece about how his rallies have become dangerous, with some facts to back it up)...so much so, Trump's protective servicemen had to protect them from the crowd and escorts them out. Just think how it might be if that piece of garbage becomes President. I'll say this fact, Hillary Clinton is more of a man than Donald Trump...#MicDrop
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Hillary has man junk? Oh dear God!
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You are a moron if you think atleast one of his followers won't take that to mean take up arms against Hillary (think Harvey Updyke inbred bama fan type). All it takes is one. I'm sure Trump would pay the legal fees.
Also, Trump can turn his horde into rage simply by pointing out a journalist and say that she should apologize for lying about the violence at his rallies (she wrote a piece about how his rallies have become dangerous, with some facts to back it up)...so much so, Trump's protective servicemen had to protect them from the crowd and escorts them out. Just think how it might be if that piece of garbage becomes President. I'll say this fact, Hillary Clinton is more of a man than Donald Trump...#MicDrop
And yet with all of us dumbass moron gun owners out here, it has yet to happen. If 2A supporters haven't knocked off the ONE by now, surely they aren't gonna be motivated by a few misinterpreted words to attack shechrist.
The way you describe hitlary continues with your leftwingnut idiocy.
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nypostdot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
LAS VEGAS — A British man arrested at a weekend Donald Trump rally in Las Vegas tried to grab a police officer’s gun so he could kill the presidential candidate after planning an assassination for about a year, according to authorities.
U.S. Secret Service agents said Michael Steven Sandford approached a Las Vegas police officer at the campaign stop to say he wanted Trump’s autograph, but that he then tried to take the weapon.
A complaint filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Nevada charges Sandford, 20, with an act of violence on restricted grounds. He was denied bail during a court appearance later in the day. His court-appointed attorney said he was living out of his car and in the country illegally after overstaying a visa.
Sanford has not entered a plea.
The arrest happened relatively quietly at a campaign stop seen as peaceful compared to the mayhem at the presumptive Republican nominee’s recent events in San Jose, California, and Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Gregg Donovan was among about 1,500 gathered Saturday to see Trump at the Treasure Island casino on the Las Vegas Strip. For the event, he donned the top hat and red jacket that made him recognizable in his former job as swanky Beverly Hills’ official greeter for more than a decade.
Donovan said he didn’t know about the charge against Sanford until he saw news reports. But he recognized him because the two had stood in line together for nine hours waiting to get into the Trump event. Sanford even held Donovan’s spot in line for a bathroom break.
“I was No. 5, and he was No. 4,†Donovan said.
î £They spoke, Donovan said, though Sanford didn’t say much and seemed “strange.†Donovan didn’t elaborate on what made Sanford seem odd.
After waiting, they passed through metal detectors manned by Secret Service, police and casino security officials.
Federal Magistrate Judge George Foley said in court Monday that Sandford was a potential danger to the community and a flight risk. Sandford wore leg irons and appeared to tremble during the hearing.
Heather Fraley, his assigned public defender, said Sandford appeared to be competent. She said he hadn’t been diagnosed with a mental illness but that he has autism and previously attempted suicide. He doesn’t have a job.
Sanford’s mother told court researchers that he was treated for obsessive compulsive disorder and anorexia when he was younger, and that he once ran away from a hospital in England, according to the public defender.
Fraley argued that Sandford should go to a halfway house because he didn’t have a criminal history, but the judge said he should stay in detention ahead of a July 5 court date.
Agents said Sandford told them he had been in the U.S. for about a year and a half, lived in Hoboken, New Jersey, and drove to the San Bernardino, California, area before coming to Las Vegas on June 16.
Sandford told officers he was convinced he would die in the assassination attempt. He said he also reserved a ticket for a Trump rally in Phoenix, scheduled for later Saturday, as a backup plan.
The criminal complaint said Sandford was arrested after grabbing the handle of an officer’s gun while trying to remove it from a holster.
Sanford told authorities that he went to the Battlefield Vegas shooting range the day before the rally and fired 20 rounds from a 9mm Glock pistol to learn how to use it. Police detectives who visited the range spoke with an employee who confirmed that he provided Sandford shooting lessons, according to the complaint signed by Secret Service Special Agent Joseph Hall.
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You are a moron if you think atleast one of his followers won't take that to mean take up arms against Hillary (think Harvey Updyke inbred bama fan type). All it takes is one. I'm sure Trump would pay the legal fees.
Also, Trump can turn his horde into rage simply by pointing out a journalist and say that she should apologize for lying about the violence at his rallies (she wrote a piece about how his rallies have become dangerous, with some facts to back it up)...so much so, Trump's protective servicemen had to protect them from the crowd and escorts them out. Just think how it might be if that piece of garbage becomes President. I'll say this fact, Hillary Clinton is more of a man than Donald Trump...#MicDrop
If you had to pay for that mic, you wouldn't be dropping it so much.
By the way, do you get the Obama mics just like the phones and cheese?
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nypostdot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
LAS VEGAS — A British man arrested at a weekend Donald Trump rally in Las Vegas tried to grab a police officer’s gun so he could kill the presidential candidate after planning an assassination for about a year, according to authorities.
U.S. Secret Service agents said Michael Steven Sandford approached a Las Vegas police officer at the campaign stop to say he wanted Trump’s autograph, but that he then tried to take the weapon.
A complaint filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Nevada charges Sandford, 20, with an act of violence on restricted grounds. He was denied bail during a court appearance later in the day. His court-appointed attorney said he was living out of his car and in the country illegally after overstaying a visa.
Sanford has not entered a plea.
The arrest happened relatively quietly at a campaign stop seen as peaceful compared to the mayhem at the presumptive Republican nominee’s recent events in San Jose, California, and Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Gregg Donovan was among about 1,500 gathered Saturday to see Trump at the Treasure Island casino on the Las Vegas Strip. For the event, he donned the top hat and red jacket that made him recognizable in his former job as swanky Beverly Hills’ official greeter for more than a decade.
Donovan said he didn’t know about the charge against Sanford until he saw news reports. But he recognized him because the two had stood in line together for nine hours waiting to get into the Trump event. Sanford even held Donovan’s spot in line for a bathroom break.
“I was No. 5, and he was No. 4,†Donovan said.
î £They spoke, Donovan said, though Sanford didn’t say much and seemed “strange.†Donovan didn’t elaborate on what made Sanford seem odd.
After waiting, they passed through metal detectors manned by Secret Service, police and casino security officials.
Federal Magistrate Judge George Foley said in court Monday that Sandford was a potential danger to the community and a flight risk. Sandford wore leg irons and appeared to tremble during the hearing.
Heather Fraley, his assigned public defender, said Sandford appeared to be competent. She said he hadn’t been diagnosed with a mental illness but that he has autism and previously attempted suicide. He doesn’t have a job.
Sanford’s mother told court researchers that he was treated for obsessive compulsive disorder and anorexia when he was younger, and that he once ran away from a hospital in England, according to the public defender.
Fraley argued that Sandford should go to a halfway house because he didn’t have a criminal history, but the judge said he should stay in detention ahead of a July 5 court date.
Agents said Sandford told them he had been in the U.S. for about a year and a half, lived in Hoboken, New Jersey, and drove to the San Bernardino, California, area before coming to Las Vegas on June 16.
Sandford told officers he was convinced he would die in the assassination attempt. He said he also reserved a ticket for a Trump rally in Phoenix, scheduled for later Saturday, as a backup plan.
The criminal complaint said Sandford was arrested after grabbing the handle of an officer’s gun while trying to remove it from a holster.
Sanford told authorities that he went to the Battlefield Vegas shooting range the day before the rally and fired 20 rounds from a 9mm Glock pistol to learn how to use it. Police detectives who visited the range spoke with an employee who confirmed that he provided Sandford shooting lessons, according to the complaint signed by Secret Service Special Agent Joseph Hall.
I know you were trying to make this an "us vs. them" thing, but this actually just proves Prowler's point.
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I know you were trying to make this an "us vs. them" thing, but this actually just proves Prowler's point.
What point? That it's dangerous at Trump rallies because of the left wing whackaloons?
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What point? That it's dangerous at Trump rallies because of the left wing whackaloons?
That there are whackadoos that will try to assassinate a political figure, and that does not prove that they are exclusive to the left.
See: JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, the 2011 Tuscon Congress shooting to name a few off the top of my head...
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That there are whackadoos that will try to assassinate a political figure, and that does not prove that they are exclusive to the left.
See: JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, the 2011 Tuscon Congress shooting to name a few off the top of my head...
I have read a lot of history and I have never seen anything about these men that you mention trying to assassinate anyone. Ever.
You are a dumbass.
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I have read a lot of history and I have never seen anything about these men that you mention trying to assassinate anyone. Ever.
You are a dumbass.
Well, to be fair, MLK had a temper. Let me tell you a story.
I met Dr. Martin Luther King in 1962 in Memphis, Tennessee. I walkin' down the street minding my own business, just walking on. Feelin' good. I walk around the corner, a man walk up, hit me in my chest, right. I fall on the ground, right. And I look up and it's Dr. Martin Luther King. I said 'Dr. King?' and he said 'Ooops, I thought you were some body else.'
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That there are whackadoos that will try to assassinate a political figure, and that does not prove that they are exclusive to the left.
See: JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, the 2011 Tuscon Congress shooting to name a few off the top of my head...
Nobody said it was exclusive to the left however you said that article "proves Prowler's point". The only point that I think Prowler had, if he had one at all was that Trump wants a 2A supporter to shoot the demon beast which that article does not prove.
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Well, to be fair, MLK had a temper. Let me tell you a story.
I met Dr. Martin Luther King in 1962 in Memphis, Tennessee. I walkin' down the street minding my own business, just walking on. Feelin' good. I walk around the corner, a man walk up, hit me in my chest, right. I fall on the ground, right. And I look up and it's Dr. Martin Luther King. I said 'Dr. King?' and he said 'Ooops, I thought you were some body else.'
Oh man, you lyin', you ain't ever met Martin Luther the King!
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Nobody said it was exclusive to the left however you said that article "proves Prowler's point". The only point that I think Prowler had, if he had one at all was that Trump wants a 2A supporter to shoot the demon beast which that article does not prove.
His point was that EVEN IF Trump was joking (which is true), or EVEN IF he didn't mean it that way at all (which is false), there are nutbags out there that will absolutely interpret it that way and take action.
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His point was that EVEN IF Trump was joking (which is true), or EVEN IF he didn't mean it that way at all (which is false), there are nutbags out there that will absolutely interpret it that way and take action.
You just wanted to say nutbags. Queer.
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Oh man, you lyin', you ain't ever met Martin Luther the King!
Knocked the wind out of me, yes he did.
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His point was that EVEN IF Trump was joking (which is true), or EVEN IF he didn't mean it that way at all (which is false), there are nutbags out there that will absolutely interpret it that way and take action.
The only nutbags that have stirred up real trouble thus far have been either Bernbots or hillary supporters.
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His point was that EVEN IF Trump was joking (which is true), or EVEN IF he didn't mean it that way at all (which is false), there are nutbags out there that will absolutely interpret it that way and take action.
You are not the arbiter of truth and falsity.
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His point was that EVEN IF Trump was joking (which is true), or EVEN IF he didn't mean it that way at all (which is false), there are nutbags out there that will absolutely interpret it that way and take action.
Still doesn't prove his point if that was his point.
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Driving home this evening, I saw a sign in someone's yard.
EVERYONE SUCKS
2016
I chortled aloud.
He speaks for all of us.
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His point was that EVEN IF Trump was joking (which is true), or EVEN IF he didn't mean it that way at all (which is false), there are nutbags out there that will absolutely interpret it that way and take action.
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Iranians mean it.
Trump is joking, but he was jokingly advocating his supporters killing Hillary Clinton.
This isn't hard.
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Trump is joking, but he was jokingly advocating his supporters killing Hillary Clinton.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
I completely understand Trump because that's the way I talk in real life. My thoughts run ahead of my ability to speak sometimes and I add things into the middle of sentences.
I would have said this EXACTLY the same way.
"Hillary's against the second amendment, she's going to take away your guns and pack the court and you can't do anything about it, well, you second amendment people maybe could..."
As in DON'T VOTE FOR HER.
He's not a polished speaker, he says things as they come to him. I get it, because I do the same kind of thing.
I'm sick of the crying bitch media trying to trip him for every single word he says while the Queen Whore gets a free pass on her lies, her treason, her bribery, her indifference toward people.
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Just a little fyi...Hillary's not going to try and abolish the 2nd amendment. That's just another fear tactic Trump is trying to use.
Also, no I'm not for Hillary.
Loopholes do need to be closed (licensed gun dealers should not be allowed to sale firearms without the proper background check), suspected terrorist should not be allowed to purchase a firearm, I have no problem with the ban of assault rifles, and I would like universal background checks.
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Just a little fyi...Hillary's not going to try and abolish the 2nd amendment. That's just another fear tactic Trump is trying to use.
Also, no I'm not for Hillary.
Loopholes do need to be closed (licensed gun dealers should not be allowed to sale firearms without the proper background check), suspected terrorist should not be allowed to purchase a firearm, I have no problem with the ban of assault rifles, and I would like universal background checks.
You are an idiot!
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You are an idiot!
You are a dumbass!
Facts still remain. Hillary isn't trying to abolish the 2nd Amendment, Trump continues to spew lies that she is.
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You are a dumbass!
Facts still remain. Hillary isn't trying to abolish the 2nd Amendment, Trump continues to spew lies that she is.
Here ya go idiot gubment teet sucker boy!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/chelsea-clinton-now-scalias-gone/?mtcid=cf
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Damnit. Which is true?
Trump is joking trying to get his supporters to kill Hillary, or Trump is a Hillary plant to help her win the election. If the motherfucker is on her side, and is trying to lose so she can win, then he clearly isn't trying to get her assassinated.
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Damnit. Which is true?
Trump is joking trying to get his supporters to kill Hillary, or Trump is a Hillary plant to help her win the election. If the motherfucker is on her side, and is trying to lose so he can win, then he clearly isn't trying to get her assassinated.
Your liar is stupid.
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BOOM!!!
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BOOM!!!
Did Trump just commit to Auburn?
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Here ya go idiot gubment teet sucker boy!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/chelsea-clinton-now-scalias-gone/?mtcid=cf
Here ya go ignorant boy...
Loopholes do need to be closed (licensed gun dealers should not be allowed to sale firearms without the proper background check), suspected terrorist should not be allowed to purchase a firearm, I have no problem with the ban of assault rifles, and I would like universal background checks.
That's what Hillary wants to do. That's not abolishing the 2nd Amendment, that's amending it.
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Bull. Fucking. Shit.
I completely understand Trump because that's the way I talk in real life. My thoughts run ahead of my ability to speak sometimes and I add things into the middle of sentences.
I would have said this EXACTLY the same way.
"Hillary's against the second amendment, she's going to take away your guns and pack the court and you can't do anything about it, well, you second amendment people maybe could..."
As in DON'T VOTE FOR HER.
He's not a polished speaker, he says things as they come to him. I get it, because I do the same kind of thing.
I'm sick of the crying bitch media trying to trip him for every single word he says while the Queen Whore gets a free pass on her lies, her treason, her bribery, her indifference toward people.
No offense, K, but i wouldn't want your ass in the Oval Office either.
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No offense, K, but i wouldn't want your ass in the Oval Office either.
Now wait just a minute. My platform would include:
A full investigation of the Alabama football program by the FBI and IRS including all current and former players. That would be followed by the abolition of the program, seizure of BDS and the destruction of the same.
I would then eliminate the IRS and replace it with a sales tax on all items save groceries and clothes. To make it so that the poor would not scream the percentage would be weighted so that "sin" items like alcohol, cigarettes, weed and porn as well as items deemed "luxury" would be taxed at a higher rate.
I would end federal regulation of and interference in education and morality. States rights would be returned to the state.
I'd eliminate half the federal agencies and use the money saved to boost defense spending and the federal highway programs.
I'd ban houndstooth.
I'd use my position to bang coeds at every college campus in the USofA. Except the all male colleges, that is.
I'd make a great president, definitely better than Hillary.
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Now wait just a minute. My platform would include:
A full investigation of the Alabama football program by the FBI and IRS including all current and former players. That would be followed by the abolition of the program, seizure of BDS and the destruction of the same.
I would then eliminate the IRS and replace it with a sales tax on all items save groceries and clothes. To make it so that the poor would not scream the percentage would be weighted so that "sin" items like alcohol, cigarettes, weed and porn as well as items deemed "luxury" would be taxed at a higher rate.
I would end federal regulation of and interference in education and morality. States rights would be returned to the state.
I'd eliminate half the federal agencies and use the money saved to boost defense spending and the federal highway programs.
I'd ban houndstooth.
I'd use my position to bang coeds at every college campus in the USofA. Except the all male colleges, that is.
I'd make a great president, definitely better than Hillary.
Tell me your view on the 2nd and you might have a write in.
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Tell me your view on the 2nd and you might have a right in.
Shoot early, shoot often. Shoot to kill.
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Loopholes do need to be closed (licensed gun dealers should not be allowed to sale firearms without the proper background check)....
This alone proves the idiot you are!
THIS is already illegal!
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This alone proves the idiot you are!
THIS is already illegal!
I'm guessing you've never heard of the gun show loophole, fuckin dumbass
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SMH...
https://youtu.be/6MubunsD-7g
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I'm guessing you've never heard of the gun show loophole, fuckin dumbass
My God you are stupid. The so-called gun show loophole has nothing to do with licensed dealers.
Holy shit! I can't believe they let you vote!
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SMH...
https://youtu.be/6MubunsD-7g
I'd fillibust salmon shirt white headband in that video.
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I haven't read any of this thread.
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When was the last time a presidential candidate openly supported breaking the law?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/15/clinton-campaign-enlists-undocumented-dreamers-for-voter-registration-drive.html
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When was the last time a presidential candidate openly supported breaking the law?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/15/clinton-campaign-enlists-undocumented-dreamers-for-voter-registration-drive.html
I fucking hate that bitch
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Because Trump is a champion of the constitution and civil liberties cause the meme someone emailed to you says so.
(http://i.imgur.com/QyZso.gif)
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Well, this is a start.
Removing one smug, liberal racist from the air.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2016/08/15/comedy-central-cancels-larry-wilmores-nightly-show/88677536/
About 500 more to go.
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Well, this is a start.
Removing one smug, liberal racist from the air.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2016/08/15/comedy-central-cancels-larry-wilmores-nightly-show/88677536/
About 500 more to go.
That channel has done more harm to comedy and politics than anything else in the modern civilized world.
They have done great things for the hipster douchebag eyeglass industry, though.
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That channel has done more harm to comedy and politics than anything else in the modern civilized world.
They have done great things for the hipster douchebag eyeglass industry, though.
Heeeeyyyyyy... That's where a lot of people around here get their news.
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I'm guessing you've never heard of the gun show loophole, fuckin dumbass
That's not what that means.
Not even close dude.
Licensed gun dealers still have to do checks even at gun shows. But there is nothing preventing the exchange of a gun between two people who met inside - outside of that show or offsite somewhere. Maybe you should do a little looking up.
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My God you are stupid. The so-called gun show loophole has nothing to do with licensed dealers.
Holy shit! I can't believe they let you vote!
But it's the gun show loophole man! Whoooo whooooo. Dem Bernie sites dun told me so. Whoo whoooo.
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But it's the gun show loophole man! Whoooo whooooo. Dem Bernie sites dun told me so. Whoo whoooo.
A lot Dem voters are rioting in Milwaukee right now, heard they looted a local shoe store.
Funny thing is they left all the work boots.
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For Prowler.
https://youtu.be/SqJ_4YhYMhE
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For Prowler.
https://youtu.be/SqJ_4YhYMhE
But but....it's COMMON SENSE.
:taunt:
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Reasons #4,378 and 4,379 why I KNOW he's a plant who isn't trying to win.
Over the weekend, Colin Powell said that Hillary tried to "pin" the email scandal on him and that she was lying about their conversations.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/colin-powell-rejects-clinton-email-defense/
Meanwhile it was exposed that Hillary's top campaign aide Huma Abedin worked for a radical Muslim publication, for which she penned an article called "Women's Rights Are Islamic Rights" in which she argued that working moms and gay couples with children should not be recognized as families, said that women's liberation "directly translates into unwanted results of sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and indirectly promote violence against women", and warned of "the dangers of alternative lifestyles".
http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/huma-abedin-worked-at-a-radical-muslim-journal-for-10-years/
How does Trump respond to these two chip-shots? Rips into Morning Joe & Mika with below-the-belt personal attacks for daring to criticize him.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/22/media/donald-trump-morning-joe-mika/
:facepalm:
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Somebody needs their safe place again...
Wimps should skip this ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIl20jItjHY
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Mexico suddenly wants to meet with Trump?
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/mexico-suddenly-all-ears-with-trump/
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Reasons #4,378 and 4,379 why I KNOW he's a plant who isn't trying to win.
Over the weekend, Colin Powell said that Hillary tried to "pin" the email scandal on him and that she was lying about their conversations.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/colin-powell-rejects-clinton-email-defense/
Meanwhile it was exposed that Hillary's top campaign aide Huma Abedin worked for a radical Muslim publication, for which she penned an article called "Women's Rights Are Islamic Rights" in which she argued that working moms and gay couples with children should not be recognized as families, said that women's liberation "directly translates into unwanted results of sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and indirectly promote violence against women", and warned of "the dangers of alternative lifestyles".
http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/huma-abedin-worked-at-a-radical-muslim-journal-for-10-years/
How does Trump respond to these two chip-shots? Rips into Morning Joe & Mika with below-the-belt personal attacks for daring to criticize him.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/22/media/donald-trump-morning-joe-mika/
:facepalm:
Very good points. And one of mine generally speaking the last couple of months. So much low hanging fruit to hit. As WE!! said last week, he isn't helping himself out at all.
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Flip flopping again. He is conning you. You people still don't see it. SAD!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/politics/donald-trump-immigration-policy/
Donald Trump launched his presidential campaign by promising to build a "great, great wall" on the US southern border -- and make Mexico pay for it -- while painting undocumented Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.
More than a year later, Trump, now the Republican nominee, is preparing to wade back into the heated immigration debate. This time, though, he appears poised to lay out a more nuanced immigration policy -- one that could roll back some of the unapologetically blunt proposals that helped carry him to victory in the GOP primaries.
"There could certainly be a softening" in his immigration proposals, Trump told Fox News' Sean Hannity Tuesday night, "because we're not looking to hurt people."
But the real estate mogul and his new campaign leadership have dodged questions in recent days about whether Trump will abandon the promises he made on illegal immigration that attracted Republican primary voters to his campaign in droves, notably his promise to deport all estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the US.
That's fueling questions that Trump may be on the verge of a big flip-flop — something the candidate is denying.
Here's a look at the various ways he's approached his trademark policy issue.
Deportation policy
While denying that he is "flip flopping," Trump and his campaign have made it clear in recent days they are mulling what to do with the undocumented immigrants living in the US.
"The first thing we're gonna do, if and when I win, is we're gonna get rid of all the bad ones. We've got gang members, we have killers we have a lot of bad people that have to get out of this country," Trump said
Monday night on Fox News. "As far as everybody else, we're going to go through the process."
His newly minted campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, said Tuesday morning on Fox News that the campaign wants "to be fair to everyone" and said the campaign is making sure not to "rush through a speech let alone a plan."
"It's a very complex issue," Conway said.
But Trump's calls to deport all estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants were anything but equivocal as he campaigned for the Republican nomination.
In the first month of his campaign, Trump vowed to deport all undocumented immigrants and then allow "the good ones" to re-enter legally.
"We have a law. You're supposed to come in legally. I would get people out and I would have an expedited way of getting 'em back into the country so they can be legal," Trump told CNN's Dana Bash in July 2015.
A month later, Trump said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that while those "good ones" could come back in through an "expedited" process, they must first be deported.
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They have to go," Trump has said repeatedly on the trail. "We either have a country or we don't have a country."
Trump pressed on with his commitment to this plan at hundreds of rallies where his supporters frequently cited Trump's hardline stance on immigration as the rallying cry that drew them to Trump's unconventional candidacy.
Trump continued to rise in the polls and -- despite repeated questions from the media about the financial cost of his plan and the need to deport immigrants whom he vowed to allow back into the country -- stuck to his controversial plan.
"We're rounding 'em up in a very humane way, in a very nice way," Trump said in September on "60 Minutes" discussing how he would implement the deportation plan. "And by the way, I know it doesn't sound nice. But not everything is nice."
In November, Trump explained he would deploy a "deportation force" to carry out his plans to detain and eject millions of people from the US and cited President Dwight Eisenhower's injection of manpower and funding to deport undocumented immigrants in 1954.
Building the wall
If there's one illegal immigration prescription for which Trump has unwaveringly stood by, it's his pledge to build a wall on the southern border.
While Trump has since specified that the wall would not stretch through areas of the border that already have natural borders, Trump has stuck by his promise, which has become a rallying cry at virtually all of his rallies.
"And who's going to pay for the wall?" Trump regularly asks his supporters at campaign rallies, to which the crowds respond, "Mexico!"
Trump even forced a change in the Republican Party's official platform to call for the building of a physical wall along the border with Mexico.
"That is why we support building a wall along our southern border and protecting all ports of entry. The border wall must cover the entirety of the southern border and must be sufficient to stop both vehicular and pedestrian traffic," the official GOP platform now reads.
Trump, who earned the endorsement of the union representing about 16,500 border patrol agents, the Border Patrol Council, has also vowed to boost funding and resources to enforcement activities at the southern border.
Trump has also vowed his wall will include "a big, fat beautiful door right in the middle of the wall" to allow immigrants to come into the US legally.
Signs of change
While Trump remains stalwart in his promise to build the border wall and continues to decry the crimes committed by some undocumented immigrants living in the US, Trump has tweaked his rhetoric since becoming the Republican nominee -- suggesting potential changes to his deportation policy.
In a June interview with Bloomberg, Trump rejected the characterization of his deportation plan as "mass deportations."
"I would not call it mass deportations," Trump said, without hinting at whether he was rejecting the terminology or the policy.
Instead, he added, "We're going to get rid of a lot of bad dudes who are here ... that I can tell you."
The inklings of change on that issue came just as Trump began to pivot away from his proposed blanket ban on Muslims entering the country. The billionaire has yet to refute that policy but has instead pushed for banning people from countries with heavy terrorist activity and where the US government cannot adequately vet visa applicants.
Trump was set to deliver a major speech on illegal immigration this week, but his campaign decided to postpone the address as it continues to craft its policy and the language to deliver it.
Trump met Saturday with an advisory group of Hispanic supporters -- including businesspeople, politicians and community leaders -- and emerged vowing to "come up with a fair but firm process" for addressing the issue of about 11 million undocumented immigrants residing in the US.
Trump even pointed Monday night on Fox News to the deportations of undocumented immigrants under both President George W. Bush and President Barack Obama and said "I'm gonna do the same thing," which, if true, would leave hardline anti-illegal immigration activists who have supported Trump thoroughly disappointed.
Asked Sunday whether Trump was changing his mind on establishing a deportation force to round up the millions of undocumented immigrants living in the US, Conway, Trump's new campaign manager, responded simply, "To be determined."
And here's how I KNOW this is Borat-style performance art to make fools out of Republicans.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqlwHsOUsAAJ-fF.jpg)
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So what. Nobody ever thought we would round up and send out. The thought was that a process would be put in to place to deport those that break the law. Or those that get caught before a fair process could be determined. If anyone thought a round up would happen, they are sorely mistaken.
But anyone who has studied Trump knows that negotiation takes place at opposite ends at first. A wall will get built. And there will be negotiations with Mexico to get it done. The mexican president is already asking to meet with Trump.
There is no bait and witch here. There are only scared little men who think hitlary is a viable option.
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Flip flopping again. He is conning you. You people still don't see it. SAD!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/politics/donald-trump-immigration-policy/
WE see it. WE get it. WE don't care. WE are opposed to Hillary at any cost.
What's so hard about that? What is it that YOU cannot understand?
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Doesn't matter. Trump will soon "commit suicide" by shooting himself in the back of the head. It's become the new in thing for anyone who opposes a Clinton. It's trending right now.
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WE see it. WE get it. WE don't care. WE are opposed to Hillary at any cost.
What's so hard about that? What is it that YOU cannot understand?
So do you want to round up the Mexicans and kick em all out and build a wall, or do you favor a more nuanced path to citizenship as is Trump's current plan, or do you not know what the fuck you're talking about like Trump, or are you completely unprincipled and will follow him off of a cliff?
In short: Stupid or liar?
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So do you want to round up the Mexicans and kick em all out and build a wall, or do you favor a more nuanced path to citizenship as is Trump's current plan, or do you not know what the fuck you're talking about like Trump, or are you completely unprincipled and will follow him off of a cliff?
In short: Stupid or liar?
I don't want Hillary.
I don't give a fuck if he builds a wall or a swimming pool. I don't care if he deports all the Mexicans or if he gives them jobs at Taco Bell.
None of that matters.
It's about her. The evil one foretold in the Bible. Period.
If Doobie Johnson had a chance in hell I might vote for him. I'd vote for the dead raccoon I just passed on the side of the road if it could beat her. I'd vote for you. I'd vote for Chopper. For Nicholas Cage. For Charles Manson. For a Christmss tree. But in Alabama, a vote for anybody other than Trump is a vote for her. Thus ends my decision.
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But anyone who has studied Trump knows that negotiation takes place at opposite ends at first.
Bluto's right.
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I think its time we discussed the attitude of some here on the X:
http://clashdaily.com/2016/08/dear-america-wasnt-life-great-pussies-took/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=facebook.com&utm_campaign=lasmpfb
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So do you want to round up the Mexicans and kick em all out and build a wall, or do you favor a more nuanced path to citizenship as is Trump's current plan,
Yes. That's what I want. Something different than what is currently happening. I want fucking anything that doesn't allow anyone and everyone to come and take advantage of this once great country.
How is that so fucking hard for YOU to understand that? Are you stupid? Or dumb?
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Yes. That's what I want. Something different than what is currently happening. I want fucking anything that doesn't allow anyone and everyone to come and take advantage of this once great country.
How is that so fucking hard for YOU to understand that? Are you stupid? Or dumb?
he's a liberal what else do you expect.
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Yes. That's what I want. Something different than what is currently happening. I want fucking anything that doesn't allow anyone and everyone to come and take advantage of this once great country.
How is that so fucking hard for YOU to understand that? Are you stupid? Or dumb?
Why do Mexicans wear pointed boots?
It makes it easier to climb a fence.
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Y'all over here talking about walls...
http://youtu.be/x_errHqd92k
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Yes. That's what I want. Something different than what is currently happening. I want fucking anything that doesn't allow anyone and everyone to come and take advantage of this once great country.
How is that so fucking hard for YOU to understand that? Are you stupid? Or dumb?
"Do you want A or B?"
"Yes."
:facepalm:
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"Do you want A or B?"
"Yes."
:facepalm:
Exactly.
#winning
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Ann Coulter in her latest book:
"There's nothing Trump can do that won't be forgiven. Except change his immigration policies."
Anne Coulter yesterday:
"Perhaps it is in our interest to let some of them stay."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/coulter-maybe-in-our-interest-to-keep-some-illegal-immigrants/article/2600180
Trump is doing exactly what he set out to do. Make Republicans look ridiculous. Including you.
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Ann Coulter in her latest book:
"There's nothing Trump can do that won't be forgiven. Except change his immigration policies."
Anne Coulter yesterday:
"Perhaps it is in our interest to let some of them stay."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/coulter-maybe-in-our-interest-to-keep-some-illegal-immigrants/article/2600180
Trump is doing exactly what he set out to do. Make Republicans look ridiculous. Including you.
Is he Hillary Clinton?
No?
Then I don't give a fuck.
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Build a wall. Throw out the bad ones. Don't let the bad ones in. Throw them out if they commit a crime.
Do these things and we are light years from where we are now.
Once again, the art of negotiation. He gets it, your daddy's daughter never will!
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Yes. That's what I want. Something different than what is currently happening. I want fucking anything that doesn't allow anyone and everyone to come and take advantage of this once great country.
We ran across a person earlier in the week who actually had a warrant for deportation from ICE. I guess he didn't show up for his deportation hearing or whatever. It was definitely the right person, and everything was valid. But they wouldn't take him because they're just "not really deporting people right now". You and I are legal citizens of this country, and if we don't show up to court, we go to jail. But as long as you're illegal and if you get in the deportation process, you can just not show up to court and that's OK.
Something does need to change. I'm not saying just throw them ALL out, but we have to get a handle on this shit from a fiscal and security standpoint if nothing else.
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We ran across a person earlier in the week who actually had a warrant for deportation from ICE. I guess he didn't show up for his deportation hearing or whatever. It was definitely the right person, and everything was valid. But they wouldn't take him because they're just "not really deporting people right now". You and I are legal citizens of this country, and if we don't show up to court, we go to jail. But as long as you're illegal and if you get in the deportation process, you can just not show up to court and that's OK.
Something does need to change. I'm not saying just throw them ALL out, but we have to get a handle on this shit from a fiscal and security standpoint if nothing else.
No. You have to chose dumb ass. Are you stupid or just a liar?
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Build a wall. Throw out the bad ones. Don't let the bad ones in. Throw them out if they commit a crime.
Do these things and we are light years from where we are now.
Once again, the art of negotiation. He gets it, your daddy's daughter never will!
But he no longer wants to do those things.
I understand why it would be hard to keep up. Do you want to "build a wall" and "throw out the bad ones" like Trump wanted then or do you want amnesty like Trump wants now?
Just say you have no principles and will follow the GOP off a cliff if they ask you to…
No. You have to chose dumb ass. Are you stupid or just a liar?
He chose, dumb ass. I agree with him.
Trump switched gears. He no longer agrees with the stance that he conditioned you to take on this. Sad!
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But he no longer wants to do those things.
I understand why it would be hard to keep up. Do you want to "build a wall" and "throw out the bad ones" like Trump wanted then or do you want amnesty like Trump wants now?
Just say you have no principles and will follow the GOP off a cliff if they ask you to…
He chose, dumb ass. I agree with him.
Trump switched gears. He no longer agrees with the stance that he conditioned you to take on this. Sad!
I just googled it.
Hillary Clinton is one person. Donald Trump is not that person.
Case closed.
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But he no longer wants to do those things.
I understand why it would be hard to keep up. Do you want to "build a wall" and "throw out the bad ones" like Trump wanted then or do you want amnesty like Trump wants now?
Just say you have no principles and will follow the GOP off a cliff if they ask you to…
He chose, dumb ass. I agree with him.
Trump switched gears. He no longer agrees with the stance that he conditioned you to take on this. Sad!
Thing about trump is he doesn't just change gears. He does 180s. And for no real apparent reason other than one of the positions was simply pandering.
It's pretty apparent that the scorched deportation stance was never real and was simply pandering to the redmeat primary base. It's also going unsaid that the stance he holds now is the one he lambasted Rubio and Jeb for. But is it now ok?
I don't think it's a stretch to ask him to explain that away - why he drug a few decent guys through the mud over a stance and now having that same stance as those guys.
He told the New York Times in the spring that his stance was a lot more lenient and flexible than what he was peddling to the primary voters but it was deemed off the record. Cruz told those rednecks in Indiana that and was simply called a liar for bringing it up. Whether one likes or dislikes trump or Cruz, that statement was not a lie. And it's pretty obvious now. But hey "LYIN Ted errrrrbody therrrr u go agin LYIN Ted!"
'Murica golldammet
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Thing about trump is he doesn't just change gears. He does 180s. And for no real apparent reason other than one of the positions was simply pandering.
It's pretty apparent that the scorched deportation stance was never real and was simply pandering to the redmeat primary base. It's also going unsaid that the stance he holds now is the one he lambasted Rubio and Jeb for. But is it now ok?
I don't think it's a stretch to ask him to explain that away - why he drug a few decent guys through the mud over a stance and now having that same stance as those guys.
He told the New York Times in the spring that his stance was a lot more lenient and flexible than what he was peddling to the primary voters but it was deemed off the record. Cruz told those rednecks in Indiana that and was simply called a liar for bringing it up. Whether one likes or dislikes trump or Cruz, that statement was not a lie. And it's pretty obvious now. But hey "LYIN Ted errrrrbody therrrr u go agin LYIN Ted!"
'Murica golldammet
Not just Trump, but all his rube followers, including many here.
Rubio & Cruz were THE SCUM OF THE FUCKING EARTH SPIC LOVERS for this EXACT position on immigration. Trump was gonna kick all the wetbacks out and build a fuckin' wall.
Now all of the sudden and somehow still it was cuck beta RINO bullshit when it came from Rubio, but from Trump? Well, man, he just evolved a little bit, no big deal. This is what we all really wanted all along, just not when Cruz & Rubio were saying it.
You're the butt of his joke. He is trolling you.
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Not just Trump, but all his rube followers, including many here.
Rubio & Cruz were THE SCUM OF THE FUCKING EARTH SPIC LOVERS for this EXACT position on immigration. Trump was gonna kick all the wetbacks out and build a fuckin' wall.
Now all of the sudden and somehow still it was cuck beta RINO bullshit when it came from Rubio, but from Trump? Well, man, he just evolved a little bit, no big deal. This is what we all really wanted all along, just not when Cruz & Rubio were saying it.
You're the butt of his joke. He is trolling you.
Checked the googles.
Still not Hillary. Still on the ballot. Still has a chance to win.
Turned the googles off
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Checked the googles.
Still not Hillary. Still on the ballot. Still has a chance to win.
Turned the googles off
Trump and Hillary think you for your myopic gullibility.
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Trump and Hillary think you for your myopic gullibility.
The options are Trump and Hillary.
My choice is Anyone But Hillary.
Nothing he could do or say will change the level of my loathing for her.
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The options are Trump and Hillary.
My choice is Anyone But Hillary.
Nothing he could do or say will change the level of my loathing for her.
And I think we may be on two different angles here. Mine is one of learning for future elections so that we do not have to have a lesser of two evils choice again. People need to observe these traits and learn from it, and most importantly take an interest in the election before the candidates are actually locked in. Most of those complaining about the choices I see on a daily basis sat on their collective asses during the primaries and didn't decide to "care" until it was already decided.
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Trump and Hillary think you for your myopic gullibility.
So real question here: with trumps turn on immigration, is Johnson really any worse on that particular issue now? That's been one of my qualms with him is his complete amnesty and open borders stance. Now it appears that all three candidates want it in some form.
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So real question here: with trumps turn on immigration, is Johnson really any worse on that particular issue now? That's been one of my qualms with him is his complete amnesty and open borders stance. Now it appears that all three candidates want it in some form.
The question of worse or better is really irrelevant. Johnson has less chance than dallas of getting elected.
Trump is trying (sort of) to get elected. All the people around him -- including the leaders of the Republican Party -- are hounding him to back off his intractable stances in an effort to bring in a broader base of voters. What he says and what he believes are probably at odds now.
It's not going to work. It's a concept doomed to fail. The only way he could have won was to keep up the intensity and bring out people who typically don't vote because they don't feel their voice is heard in the cacophony of minority bullshit that dominates too much of politics. The majority COULD still own this election, but there is never a candidate that speaks to their values and hopes because the minority liberal media demonizes them for espousing "normal" views.
If he wants to win? He needs to get rid of all the handlers, turn off the teleprompter, ignore the media and go back to being "fuck you" Trump.
An effort to be more like a 'traditional candidate' only makes him ineffectual and foppish while it drives the people who would have run through a wall for him (not me) back to their lives of silent frustration.
There is no learning going on here, things will be what they always have been. And? This. Country. Is. Fucked.
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So real question here: with trumps turn on immigration, is Johnson really any worse on that particular issue now? That's been one of my qualms with him is his complete amnesty and open borders stance. Now it appears that all three candidates want it in some form.
The position Trump supposedly landed on is one I would be inclined to agree with...if I thought he had an ounce of integrity and actually knew what the fuck he was talking about. He doesn't. He just spouts out his drunk-uncle-level understanding of politics in general where there is no such thing as consistency because, I believe, he truly doesn't know the difference or the implications of either position.
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The position Trump supposedly landed on is one I would be inclined to agree with...if I thought he had an ounce of integrity and actually knew what the fuck he was talking about. He doesn't. He just spouts out his drunk-uncle-level understanding of politics in general where there is no such thing as consistency because, I believe, he truly doesn't know the difference or the implications of either position.
There's a reason why that's good, Chachi.
I'd rather have somebody who will hire people who know what they're doing and let them do their jobs than some maniac who thinks they know better than anybody else and demands that THEIR twisted, ignorant vision be implemented. That's what we have in Obama. That's what we'll have with Hillary.
We need a CEO type president, not an Emperor/Empress.
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The position Trump supposedly landed on is one I would be inclined to agree with...if I thought he had an ounce of integrity and actually knew what the fuck he was talking about. He doesn't. He just spouts out his drunk-uncle-level understanding of politics in general where there is no such thing as consistency because, I believe, he truly doesn't know the difference or the implications of either position.
As K said above, simply pandering or changing to a broader audience per the advisors and handlers more than likely. Not sure he even knows what he is saying. The place he is sitting now on it I don't too much have issue with. It was more the lambasting of the others for it earlier in the process. And I suppose it is better than hillarys total amnesty and open borders stance. Johnson has said before he is also for total amnesty and open borders but I've also recently seen him advocate a path where due diligence is done. Still though, no wall. So it's a mixed bag between them.
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As K said above, simply pandering or changing to a broader audience per the advisors and handlers more than likely. Not sure he even knows what he is saying. The place he is sitting now on it I don't too much have issue with. It was more the lambasting of the others for it earlier in the process. And I suppose it is better than hillarys total amnesty and open borders stance. Johnson has said before he is also for total amnesty and open borders but I've also recently seen him advocate a path where due diligence is done. Still though, no wall. So it's a mixed bag between them.
Johnson's position has consistently been for an expansive guest worker program, a two year grace period for illegals to get work visas or be deported, 1 strike and you're out for anyone trying to circumvent the rules, and the wall is dumb ("A 10-foot wall just requires an 11-foot ladder").
Any talk about just a completely borderless society, if he did in fact make those comments, were I'm sure purely philosophical about how in an ideal society the government wouldn't interfere with people's individual liberties to live where they want to live, but I know for sure that he does not endorse that as a practical, pragmatic, policy he'd want in practice. I'm assuming that based on similar stances he's taken on, say, the drug war. He wants to actually legalize marijuana, but when it comes to stuff like heroine and meth, I've seen him say that in theory, the government shouldn't have a say in what individuals to to their own bodies, and that in theory if the government were to prescribe heroin to addicts, it would be cleaner, safer, and eliminate the black market. But he then went on to say explicitly that in practice, he has absolutely no intentions of legalizing anything other than marijuana.
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Johnson's position has consistently been for an expansive guest worker program, a two year grace period for illegals to get work visas or be deported, 1 strike and you're out for anyone trying to circumvent the rules, and the wall is dumb ("A 10-foot wall just requires an 11-foot ladder").
Any talk about just a completely borderless society, if he did in fact make those comments, were I'm sure purely philosophical about how in an ideal society the government wouldn't interfere with people's individual liberties to live where they want to live, but I know for sure that he does not endorse that as a practical, pragmatic, policy he'd want in practice. I'm assuming that based on similar stances he's taken on, say, the drug war. He wants to actually legalize marijuana, but when it comes to stuff like heroine and meth, I've seen him say that in theory, the government shouldn't have a say in what individuals to to their own bodies, and that in theory if the government were to prescribe heroin to addicts, it would be cleaner, safer, and eliminate the black market. But he then went on to say explicitly that in practice, he has absolutely no intentions of legalizing anything other than marijuana.
It doesn't matter what his positions are or aren't.
He CANNOT beat Hillary. Only Trump can. So this is wasted effort.
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It doesn't matter what his positions are or aren't.
He CANNOT beat Hillary. Only Trump can. So this is wasted effort.
And I really wish it weren't this way. We've got to be able to do better than what this clown show election this year has become.
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It doesn't matter what his positions are or aren't.
He CANNOT beat Hillary. Only Trump can. So this is wasted effort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality
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Watched Gary Johnson this weekend. Fuck it, I'm not voting.
I've come to the conclusion that nobody in their right fucking mind wants to be the president.
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Watched Gary Johnson this weekend. Fuck it, I'm not voting.
I've come to the conclusion that nobody in their right fucking mind wants to be the president.
Our choices are:
1) Hillary Clinton -- the most evil, corrupt person alive today and in the top ten ever. Someone who has a radical Muslim sympathizer as her closest adviser. Someone who is so in love with herself that she believes her view of everything is more valuable than yours. She knows better than you what you want, what you need and what's good for her you. So fuck her.
2) Donald Trump -- an egotistical businessman who has never been in politics and has a self-promoting tendency to say outlandish things.
3a and 3b) Doobie Johnson and the Pussycats. Zero chance in hell and a wasted vote.
Of the the choices, Doobie seems the most whack-a-doo. It's like he blazed up 30 minutes before every interview. He looks like Barry Manilow's younger gayer brother. He doesn't know if he's shitting or wiping.
The only viable option against Hillary is Trump.
Do I wish it were different? Yeah. I do. But it is what it is.
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Our choices are:
1) Hillary Clinton -- the most evil, corrupt person alive today and in the top ten ever. Someone who has a radical Muslim sympathizer as her closest adviser. Someone who is so in love with herself that she believes her view of everything is more valuable than yours. She knows better than you what you want, what you need and what's good for her you. So fuck her.
2) Donald Trump -- an egotistical businessman who has never been in politics and has a self-promoting tendency to say outlandish things.
3a and 3b) Doobie Johnson and the Pussycats. Zero chance in hell and a wasted vote.
Of the the choices, Doobie seems the most whack-a-doo. It's like he blazed up 30 minutes before every interview. He looks like Barry Manilow's younger gayer brother. He doesn't know if he's shitting or wiping.
The only viable option against Hillary is Trump.
Do I wish it were different? Yeah. I do. But it is what it is.
You say that as if blazing up before an interview is bad.
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So real question here: with trumps turn on immigration, is Johnson really any worse on that particular issue now? That's been one of my qualms with him is his complete amnesty and open borders stance. Now it appears that all three candidates want it in some form.
There is a big difference. Open borders does not equal building a wall!
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Watched Gary Johnson this weekend. Fuck it, I'm not voting.
I've come to the conclusion that nobody in their right fucking mind wants to be the president.
Do over!!!
Any candidate that isn't being looked at by the FBI or has multiple lawsuits against them should come to the stage...sit down Hillary & Trump, better yet, just leave. Real candidates wanted.
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There is a big difference. Open borders does not equal building a wall!
Chad made a good point above on johnsons open border statements. I guess the only way to know is to get him on a debate stage and ask him point blank.
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Do over!!!
Any candidate that isn't being looked at by the FBI or has multiple lawsuits against them should come to the stage...sit down Hillary & Trump, better yet, just leave. Real candidates wanted.
Pretty much anyone who has over 500 companies will have some lawsuits against them when he leaves Americans to die, I'll give up on him.
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Once again. Trump proves he's trying to lose.
FBI found new Benghazi emails. All you have to do is keep the focus on that.
So what does he do THAT DAY? Announce he's going to Mexico, which inevitably will only piss off Mexicans, Mexican Americans, and fire up the late night comedians.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-31/mexicans-awaken-in-shock-and-awe-to-news-of-donald-trump-s-visit
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Once again. Trump proves he's trying to lose.
FBI found new Benghazi emails. All you have to do is keep the focus on that.
So what does he do THAT DAY? Announce he's going to Mexico, which inevitably will only piss off Mexicans, Mexican Americans, and fire up the late night comedians.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-31/mexicans-awaken-in-shock-and-awe-to-news-of-donald-trump-s-visit
So you want him to be presidential and make rational considered decisions -- which requires meeting with foreign leaders. And you want him to detail his policies and his position on the issues.
And when he's doing that and not Hillary bashing you bitch anyway.
Got it.
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I don't want him to call her mommy party McPooPooface. I want him to criticize her for the ever-growing litany of legitimate major issues with her instead of deliberately distracting from them. Every. Single. Time.
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I don't want him to call her mommy party McPooPooface. I want him to criticize her for the ever-growing litany of legitimate major issues with her instead of deliberately distracting from them. Every. Single. Time.
Low hanging fruit. There is a lot of it too.
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I don't want him to call her mommy party McPooPooface. I want him to criticize her for the ever-growing litany of legitimate major issues with her instead of deliberately distracting from them. Every. Single. Time.
Why would you want that?
She's your Crusty McCooch buddy!
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This guy...there are now some inbred roll tahd yelling retards that think this is how you delete emails...smh
http://youtu.be/UOPXkeITZzY
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This guy...there are now some inbred roll tahd yelling retards that think this is how you delete emails...smh
http://youtu.be/UOPXkeITZzY
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I'm guessing that net should be widened to include more than just the inbred bama fans...hint: that's not how you delete emails. Only a moron, like yourself, would think so.
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I'm guessing that net should be widened to include more than just the inbred bama fans...hint: that's not how you delete emails. Only a moron, like yourself, would think so.
Only a pissanthimum like yourself misses the joke!
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I think its a good thing Trump does not know the latest way to delete potentially criminal emails.
Even I had to look it up. I thought it was a funny way for him to show how ridiculous this is.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-26/bleachbit-brags-about-wiping-clinton-servers-clean-it-stifles-investigation-hillary-
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Here's the pro gun libertarian candidate:
http://conservativefiringline.com/libertarian-vp-candidate-shows-ignorance-guns-claims-removing-firing-pin-makes-weapon-fully-automatic/
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Here's the pro gun libertarian candidate:
http://conservativefiringline.com/libertarian-vp-candidate-shows-ignorance-guns-claims-removing-firing-pin-makes-weapon-fully-automatic/
Jesus... this country is so fucked.
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Jesus... this country is so fucked.
pew pew pew
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pew pew pew
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Pretty much anyone who has over 500 companies will have some lawsuits against them when he leaves Americans to die, I'll give up on him.
So, are you okay with Human Trafficking?
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So, are you okay with Human Trafficking?
Yes, that is what was said...
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So, are you okay with Human Trafficking?
Can we sell you to a North Korean businessman? If so, then yes.
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Can we sell you to a North Korean businessman? If so, then yes.
Sell is such an ugly word.
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Once again. Trump proves he's trying to lose.
Johnson not doing himself any favors when questioned about Syria...
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Johnson not doing himself any favors when questioned about Syria...
Well to be fair, once they schooled him on what or where Aleppo was, he did say it was "a mess". So there's that.
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Johnson not doing himself any favors when questioned about Syria...
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Syria? I thought you said slot left, dipsy double twirl, fly 86, shotgun flash, strut nine, vanilla bean, captain rogers, stutter flip, gift of the magi, hands down, wiz khalifa, outside pin .... fuck... Timeout.
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Johnson not doing himself any favors when questioned about Syria...
Things Trump doesn't know:
What Brexit is
How Scotland voted on it
That Putin invaded Ukraine
How to say Tanzania
What a nuclear triad is
Who David Duke is (at least according to him)
Said any question about Hezbollah or Hamas is a "gotcha question".
Those are all things I legitimately know about without googling.
Never heard of Allepo before, despite reading plenty of stories about the refugee crisis. And you're full of shit if you say you had.
Googling of Aleppo went up 100% today. A bunch of smug assholes pretending they knew what it was after googling it.
https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&q=aleppo
And for fuck's sake, there's is absolutely no way Trump would know what it was.
HOST: What is Aleppo?
TRUMP: It's—well it was beautiful. A true wonder of the world.
HOST: But do you know what it is?
TRUMP: It's great
I actually respect the shit out of him for not bullshitting his way through that question like most politicians would have. THAT looks infinitely more foolish, IMO and is typical politician horseshit.
Also, the New York Times tripped all over their dicks and looked 20x more foolish than Johnson cam close to.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/09/08/new_york_times_aleppo_story_inception_but_for_corrections.html
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That was in their article smugly making fun of what an idiot Johnson is for not knowing what it is.
Basically:
We apologize for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible have been sacked.
We apologize again for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.
The directors of the firm hired to continue the credits after the other people had been sacked, wish it to be known that they have just been sacked.
The credits have been completed in an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute.
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And by the way, unlike questions about Hezbollah or Hamas, that actually WAS a gotcha question.
Watch the actual clip and listen to the way Barnacle asks it exactly in the same tone as if he were asking him what he thought about the Buttfor.
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Has a greater chance of being president than Gary "Doobie" Johnson.
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Things Trump doesn't know:
What Brexit is
How Scotland voted on it
That Putin invaded Ukraine
How to say Tanzania
What a nuclear triad is
Who David Duke is (at least according to him)
Said any question about Hezbollah or Hamas is a "gotcha question".
None of that shit is a pressing as the economy and ISIS. Your knowledge of trivial shit is wasted. Trump will hire some dumbass like you to know these things. Then he can decide if its worth the time to deal with it.
Brexit? Truly who gives a shit? It has become exactly what most said it would, NO BIG DEAL! And just like the rest of the list, not a show stopper. Can be dealt with by a low man.
If you ever get to be the man, you might understand the man. Until then, you are just google man!
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I hear Allepo is beautiful this time of year.
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But don't forget he's a great business man. How do we know that? Because he never fails to mention how great he is.
Nevermind any of this...
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Also, Trump University and human trafficking
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Google Man.
chortle
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You're right, he did act like a dipshit, but I'm still voting for him.
That's all you needed to say.
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None of that shit is a pressing as the economy and ISIS. Your knowledge of trivial shit is wasted. Trump will hire some dumbass like you to know these things. Then he can decide if its worth the time to deal with it.
Brexit? Truly who gives a shit? It has become exactly what most said it would, NO BIG DEAL! And just like the rest of the list, not a show stopper. Can be dealt with by a low man.
If you ever get to be the man, you might understand the man. Until then, you are just google man!
^ "Poorly educated".
You made it clear by your excuse you don't know what any of that shit is either. Or Alepo.
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MSNBC's Foreign Relations Correspondant, Former US Ambassador of Iraq, also smugly chides Johnson for not knowing what Aleppo is.
While incorrectly saying it is the capital of ISIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCDozQ_OsnU
:facepalm:
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I consider myself pretty well up to date and well read and I had no idea what/where it was either. First thing I thought (and still do) when I see it written is some nasty assed canned dog food.
Johnson is still a dumbass on plenty of other counts though and fuck Lorne Greene.
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I consider myself pretty well up to date and well read and I had no idea what/where it was either. First thing I thought (and still do) when I see it written is some nasty assed canned dog food.
Johnson is still a dumbass on plenty of other counts though and fuck Lorne Greene.
IMO this was a designed hit.
Most of us know at least one major city in each country and your best shot at hearing of other cities are generally limited to an outlet like NPR through a human interest story.
Someone crafted a question for Johnson so he would be seen as an ill-informed isolationist whose only thoughts are domestic.
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But don't forget he's a great business man. How do we know that? Because he never fails to mention how great he is.
Nevermind any of this...
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Also, Trump University and human trafficking
You know that most memes get around a C minus / D plus on fact checking right? This one is no exception.
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You know that most memes get around a C minus / D plus on fact checking right? This one is no exception.
True. But dem edumacated cocksuckers quote da hell outta it!
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IMO this was a designed hit.
Most of us know at least one major city in each country and your best shot at hearing of other cities are generally limited to an outlet like NPR through a human interest story.
Someone crafted a question for Johnson so he would be seen as an ill-informed isolationist whose only thoughts are domestic.
^^^100%^^^
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True. But dem edumacated cocksuckers quote da hell outta it!
This post? From you?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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^^^100%^^^
You realize you are making the same excuses for Dooby that you blast all the Trump people for
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True. But dem edumacated cocksuckers quote da hell outta it!
I've had my critiques of trump and there are plenty of them. But how these things are presented in a meme (and most other memes) is extremely distorted and/or false. I've said it before - context is everything.
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I've had my critiques of trump and there are plenty of them. But how these things are presented in a meme (and most other memes) is extremely distorted and/or false. I've said it before - context is everything.
You sir, are uneducated. - Aujizad
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You sir, are uneducated. - Aujizad
The fact that YOU are attributing to ME that I think there is merit in dipshit memes like the one Prowler presented OR THE DOZENS you have posted about Obama being a Muzlim or secretly trying to ban guns or whatever dipshittery you have posted in here is peak hilarity.
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secretly trying to ban guns or whatever...
Your planet called. They want their intergalactic idiot back!
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Your planet called. They want their intergalactic idiot back!
Got a meme to prove it?
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Got a meme to prove it?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4KTkaWZIGUE/UJE7Ljni50I/AAAAAAAADV4/8-F83UcgUYw/s1600/Rise+of+the+Planet+of+the+Apes1.jpg)
Your people is calling you!
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The fact that YOU are attributing to ME that I think there is merit in dipshit memes like the one Prowler presented OR THE DOZENS you have posted about Obama being a Muzlim or secretly trying to ban guns or whatever dipshittery you have posted in here is peak hilarity.
I don't think Barry was born in Kenya.
I don't think Hillary wants to ban the 2nd amendment totally.
I don't think Trump is a racist or practices human trafficking.
But there is plenty of other low hanging fruit on ALL of these people. Enough that stupid shit memes don't need to be made up to try and sway a dumbass electorate. But I'm pretty sure the last two words of the previous sentence are why they exist.
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I don't think Barry was born in Kenya.
I don't think Hillary wants to ban the 2nd amendment totally.
I don't think Trump is a racist or practices human trafficking.
But there is plenty of other low hanging fruit on ALL of these people. Enough that stupid shit memes don't need to be made up to try and sway a dumbass electorate. But I'm pretty sure the last two words of the previous sentence are why they exist.
I 100% agree, but CCTAU knows what I think better than I do and will say otherwise because he eats breathes and shits straw men.
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I 100% agree, but CCTAU knows what I think better than I do and will say otherwise because he eats breathes and shits straw men.
You are the one who replied defending the premise of the meme!
If the shoe did not fit you, why the hell are you wearing it? (rhetorical)
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You are the one who replied defending the premise of the meme!
If the shoe did not fit you, why the hell are you wearing it? (rhetorical)
This post is worthless without meme proof!
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You are the one who replied defending the premise of the meme!
If the shoe did not fit you, why the hell are you wearing it? (rhetorical)
Link?
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I don't think Barry was born in Kenya. His citizenship is shady at best as are many other aspects of his past
I don't think Hillary wants to ban the 2nd amendment totally. She would if she could, but she doesn't think its possible yet. She appoints three justices? Yep. It will be revised in some way to restrict liberty.
I don't think Trump is a racist or practices human trafficking. We are all racist to some degree or other. He doesn't buy and sell slaves.
But there is plenty of other low hanging fruit on ALL of these people. Enough that stupid shit memes don't need to be made up to try and sway a dumbass electorate. But I'm pretty sure the last two words of the previous sentence are why they exist.
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I have reasons for my stance on #1. Not even gonna get into that one. But it pertains to Frank Marshall Davis.
For number two it's semantics. Maybe attempt to change or regulate it? Sure. Abolish it? No way in hell. Wouldn't even come close to passing the mustard with congress or the scotus. Not. Even. Close.
On 3 I think we agree.
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For Chizad...
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For Chizad...
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"C" also stands for something else.
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"C" also stands for something else.
That word when said in an argument between male and female, ends the argument right then.
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For Chizad...
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Now that is a meme I stand behind as factual.
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"C" also stands for something else.
Yes. Yes it does.
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My dog loves Aleppo.
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My dog loves Aleppo.
Is that what you had?
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I've had my critiques of trump and there are plenty of them. But how these things are presented in a meme (and most other memes) is extremely distorted and/or false. I've said it before - context is everything.
Context
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/07/breaking-u-s-senate-moves-to-investigate-donald-trump-for-human-trafficking-details/
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Context
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/07/breaking-u-s-senate-moves-to-investigate-donald-trump-for-human-trafficking-details/
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(http://blog.eternalvigilance.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1.jpg)
He loves those click bait sites. They tell him what he wants to hear.
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"We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag" - Trump
Yeah, nevermind the First Amendment...smh
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"We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag" - Trump
Yeah, nevermind the First Amendment...smh
There is a plane leaving for Iran from laguardia tomorrow. Seats available.
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There is a plane leaving for Iran from laguardia tomorrow. Seats available.
I guess it sucks for you to live in a Country not ruled by one religion.
Sounds like you should be on that plane, since you apparently don't like this Country's Constitution.
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"We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag" - Trump
Yeah, nevermind the First Amendment...smh
Ray, next time someone asks you if you're a god - you say yes.
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Ray, next time someone asks you if you're a god - you say yes.
LOL
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Despite what CCTAU's memes say, Hillary has never said she LITERALLY wants to take your guns away arbitrarily.
Trump said that today.
http://www.nbcnews.com/card/stop-frisk-wasnt-effective-wasnt-just-about-guns-n652496
"But stop and frisk worked...They're proactive, and if they see a person possibly with a gun or they think they have a gun, they will see the person and they'll look and they'll take the gun away. They'll stop, they'll frisk and they'll take the gun away, and they won't have anything to shoot with."
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Despite what CCTAU's memes say, Hillary has never said she LITERALLY wants to take your guns away arbitrarily.
Trump said that today.
http://www.nbcnews.com/card/stop-frisk-wasnt-effective-wasnt-just-about-guns-n652496
Surely to god you understand the difference
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Surely to god you understand the difference
Of course. And don't call me Shirley.
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Surely to god you understand the difference
The coloreds' rights don't matter? Is that the difference?
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Omarosa:
“Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump. It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.â€
http://youtu.be/Htt91G2qDwM
Just pretend for five seconds an Obama or Hillary lackey said that about them. To a documentary camera.
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The coloreds' rights don't matter? Is that the difference?
You're shitting me, right?
What does race have to do with anything?
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You're shitting me, right?
What does race have to do with anything?
Please explain to me why Trump advocating police literally taking guns away from citizens with absolutely zero cause other than they "see a person possibly with a gun or they think they have a gun" is constitutional, but Clinton talking about POSSIBLY putting restrictions in place to prevent convicted felons or the mentally insane is completely off the table.
I guess I'm just dumb. I need you to explain it to me, oh wise one.
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Please explain to me why Trump advocating police literally taking guns away from citizens with absolutely zero cause other than they "see a person possibly with a gun or they think they have a gun" is constitutional, but Clinton talking about POSSIBLY putting restrictions in place to prevent convicted felons or the mentally insane is completely off the table.
I guess I'm just dumb. I need you to explain it to me, oh wise one.
The second amendment. Hillary opposes guns on principle. And knows nothing about them.
Trump is talking about removing guns from the possession of suspects who have no legitimate authority to be carrying them.
If I've got a gun in my pocket (and I'm happy to see you) and I get stopped by the police because I'm behaving oddly or there's reason to stop me then I'd expect to have that gun confiscated.
She's talking about sweeping legislation, constitutional change. He's talking about taking guns away from people in specific potentially threatening situations.
But whatever. It's exactly the same.
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Stop and frisk worked. But the criminals did not like it, so the ACLU helped them out.
If you have an illegal gun, then you should lose it! AND GO TO JAIL!
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The second amendment. Hillary opposes guns on principle. And knows nothing about them.
Trump is talking about removing guns from the possession of suspects who have no legitimate authority to be carrying them.
If I've got a gun in my pocket (and I'm happy to see you) and I get stopped by the police because I'm behaving oddly or there's reason to stop me then I'd expect to have that gun confiscated.
She's talking about sweeping legislation, constitutional change. He's talking about taking guns away from people in specific potentially threatening situations.
But whatever. It's exactly the same.
The second amendment, and the rest of the constitution is EXPLICITLY clear that you can't just take ANYTHING, let alone a constitutionally protected gun, with zero cause and with zero due process.
I don't expect Trump to understand that, but I guess I shouldn't expect you to either.
Please link to a non-meme that quotes her saying she wants to completely abolish the 2nd amendment.
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The second amendment, and the rest of the constitution is EXPLICITLY clear that you can't just take ANYTHING, let alone a constitutionally protected gun, with zero cause and with zero due process.
I don't expect Trump to understand that, but I guess I shouldn't expect you to either.
Please link to a non-meme that quotes her saying she wants to completely abolish the 2nd amendment.
Democrat speed bump.
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The second amendment, and the rest of the constitution is EXPLICITLY clear that you can't just take ANYTHING, let alone a constitutionally protected gun, with zero cause and with zero due process.
I don't expect Trump to understand that, but I guess I shouldn't expect you to either.
Please link to a non-meme that quotes her saying she wants to completely abolish the 2nd amendment.
Right. Because if you're carrying a gun in public without a permit everybody just chuckles at that and ignores it.
Did I say abolish? Sure she'd like to, but she knows she can't. So she'll tie it up with her own bizarre restrictions.
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The second amendment, and the rest of the constitution is EXPLICITLY clear that you can't just take ANYTHING, let alone a constitutionally protected gun, with zero cause and with zero due process.
I don't expect Trump to understand that, but I guess I shouldn't expect you to either.
Please link to a non-meme that quotes her saying she wants to completely abolish the 2nd amendment.
2A does not protect illegal guns.
Now stop and frisk could be seen as a 4th amendment issue, but since they allow the police to set up roadblocks, what's the difference?
Its a gray area. High crime areas tend to have a large population of criminals. Hence the suspicion involved in stop and frisk.
But all of this is moot since the courts have deemed it OK for black males to run from the police.
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2A does not protect illegal guns.
Illegal SEARCH and seizure. If they have probable cause to search you and find illegal guns, of course they're not protected. Also not what Trump is talking about here.
He's literally coming for your guns, but you're fine with it because (R).
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Illegal SEARCH and seizure. If they have probable cause to search you and find illegal guns, of course they're not protected. Also not what Trump is talking about here.
He's literally coming for your guns, but you're fine with it because (R).
You are ignorant. I'll give you that. Stop and frisk does not give anyone the right to take a legal gun.
If they check me, I show my CCW. We done.
If they check you, they find a mangina and continue to search for more.
I'm good with that!
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You are ignorant. I'll give you that. Stop and frisk does not give anyone the right to take a legal gun.
If they check me, I show my CCW. We done.
If they check you, they find a mangina and continue to search for more.
I'm good with that!
Luckily, I had someone filming when they frisked me illegally.
https://youtu.be/ZUzoYoWk4QA
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So basically Trump wants more racial profiling...what's the worse that can happen, amirite?
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So basically Trump wants more racial profiling...what's the worse that can happen, amirite?
Oh what difference does it make?
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I'm 100% in favor of profiling. Racial or otherwise.
If you look and dress and act like a thug why would you expect to be treated as anything but? When Muslims
Are blowing stuff up, it sucks but if you look like they do you get extra scrutiny. If youre driving around with a big white mullet A in your back window and a rebel flag flying in your truck bed it's not unreasonable to be stopped and checked for meth.
Fuck all this Nancy pants "don't hurt anyone's feelings" bullshit.
And fuck everybody who is "offended" over trivial shit.
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I'm 100% in favor of profiling. Racial or otherwise.
If you look and dress and act like a thug why would you expect to be treated as anything but? When Muslims
Are blowing stuff up, it sucks but if you look like they do you get extra scrutiny. If youre driving around with a big white mullet A in your back window and a rebel flag flying in your truck bed it's not unreasonable to be stopped and checked for meth.
Fuck all this Nancy pants "don't hurt anyone's feelings" bullshit.
And fuck everybody who is "offended" over trivial shit.
You and others that think like you are part of the problem.
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You and others that think like you are part of the problem.
With society the way it is, it's the solution.
When it hits your family, you'll be crying like a bitch for it!
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You and others that think like you are part of the problem.
Move to Iran and leave it to us.
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Move to Iran and leave it to us.
It's the ignorant, racists that are to blame for the biggest piece of shit Presidential candidate of Trump and his whole inbred family. You are part of the problem. You move, go to North Korea. Profile and persecute until your heart is content over there.
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It's the ignorant, racists that are to blame for the biggest piece of shit Presidential candidate of Trump and his whole inbred family. You are part of the problem. You move, go to North Korea. Profile and persecute until your heart is content over there.
(http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/4fy3vo/picture86602732/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/DEM%202016%20Primary%20Lessons)
Hmmmm.... Do you think he really doesn't know?
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Soros and other elitist fucks are to blame for the BLM movement and the war on cops. Look at the man behind the curtain.
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It's the ignorant, racists that are to blame for the biggest piece of shit Presidential candidate of Trump and his whole inbred family. You are part of the problem. You move, go to North Korea. Profile and persecute until your heart is content over there.
Because one thinks profiling is effective, they are an ignorant racist?
YOU are a sad person.
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With society the way it is, it's the solution.
When it hits your family, you'll be crying like a bitch for it!
One might say the Final Solution.
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Soros and other elitist fudges are to blame for the BLM movement and the war on cops. Look at the man behind the curtain.
70% of the BLM "Protesters" are from out of state. 100% of the "Protesters" should be labeled as terrorists also.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/who-behind-riots-charlotte-police-says-70-arrested-protesters-had-out-state-ids (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/who-behind-riots-charlotte-police-says-70-arrested-protesters-had-out-state-ids)
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It's the ignorant, racists that are to blame for the biggest piece of shit Presidential candidate of Trump and his whole inbred family. You are part of the problem. You move, go to North Korea. Profile and persecute until your heart is content over there.
Uh oh. It's another white person calling another white person a racist again. SJW in da house.
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Because one thinks profiling is effective, they are an ignorant racist?
YOU are a sad person.
You are a fucking moron if you think profiling more won't lead to more civil unrest. People like you should not be allowed to vote.
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You are a fucking moron if you think profiling more won't lead to more civil unrest. People like you should not be allowed to vote.
I was gonna' say reproduce. But vote works. :poke:
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You are a fucking moron if you think profiling more won't lead to more civil unrest. People like you should not be allowed to vote.
We just need to profile more Muslims, I think blacks everybody could get on board for that.
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We just need to profile more Muslims, I think blacks everybody could get on board for that.
Yeah, maybe put them in some form of concentration camp...umm, I mean closed off area to keep a eye on them.
Smh
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Yeah, maybe put them in some form of concentration camp...umm, I mean closed off area to keep a eye on them.
Smh
If you could assure me that the bad guys attacked you and your family first, I'd give up profiling.
But since liberal douches like you never understand until it happens to you, I will keep my stance on keeping a close eye on those that LOOK dangerous.
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Yeah, maybe put them in some form of concentration camp...umm, I mean closed off area to keep a eye on them.
Smh
You mean like the liberal/Democrat god that is FDR, did to the Japanese?.....wait, what?
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You mean like the liberal/Democrat god that is FDR, did to the Japanese?.....wait, what?
Ooooooh. Facts. That one is gonna sting.
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You mean like the liberal/Democrat god that is FDR, did to the Japanese?.....wait, what?
You say that as if you're to ignorant to realize that parties have flip-flopped throughout history. Democrats then are Republicans now, Republicans then are Democrats now.
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If you could assure me that the bad guys attacked you and your family first, I'd give up profiling.
But since liberal douches like you never understand until it happens to you, I will keep my stance on keeping a close eye on those that LOOK dangerous.
Pussy
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You say that as if you're to ignorant to realize that parties have flip-flopped throughout history. Democrats then are Republicans now, Republicans then are Democrats now.
You're too ignorant to look at a history book and realize that FDR would still be considered a Liberal today. Why do think that the Democrats hold him in such high regard?
Then again, don't answer that. I don't need the headache of reading your mindless dribble.
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You're too ignorant to look at a history book and realize that FDR would still be considered a Liberal today. Why do think that the Democrats hold him in such high regard?
Then again, don't answer that. I don't need the headache of reading your mindless dribble.
Pussy
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It's not really liberal or conservative.
It's more socialist v capitalist.
FDR, Kennedy. Obama. Clinton. Socialists. Government knows best.
Reagan. Capitalist. People and the free market are the power.
Fuck socialists. Government has never solved a problem.
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You're too ignorant to look at a history book and realize that FDR would still be considered a Liberal today. Why do think that the Democrats hold him in such high regard?
Then again, don't answer that. I don't need the headache of reading your mindless dribble.
This
Those dems didn't change. It's the Wallace dems and Lincoln GOP that swapped.
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Pussy
He's a skrate up badass. Pimp cup and all.
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You say that as if you're to ignorant to realize that parties have flip-flopped throughout history. Democrats then are Republicans now, Republicans then are Democrats now.
I have seen this idiocy pop up a lot recently, re: the left wanting to take down the Andrew Jackson statue in Jackson square.
Prowler. Read a goddamn history book.
Democrats have always been the left wing. Republicans have always been the right wing.
Read about The New Deal. Read about Woodrow Wilson.
Read about Nixon's southern strategy. It wasn't him saying "Hey, Democrats, let's swap places you be on the left and we'll be on the right now, k?" and them agreeing to it.
There is nothing inherently right wing or conservative about racism.
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It's not really liberal or conservative.
It's more socialist v capitalist.
FDR, Kennedy. Obama. Clinton. Socialists. Government knows best.
Reagan. Capitalist. People and the free market are the power.
Fuck socialists. Government has never solved a problem.
It's more about Authoritarian vs. Libertarian these days causing the rift.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Political_chart.svg/2000px-Political_chart.svg.png)
We have two authoritarians running against eachother in 2016.
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Pussy
Cut a bitch, I will.
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I have seen this idiocy pop up a lot recently, re: the left wanting to take down the Andrew Jackson statue in Jackson square.
Prowler. Read a goddamn history book.
Democrats have always been the left wing. Republicans have always been the right wing.
Read about The New Deal. Read about Woodrow Wilson.
Read about Nixon's southern strategy. It wasn't him saying "Hey, Democrats, let's swap places you be on the left and we'll be on the right now, k?" and them agreeing to it.
There is nothing inherently right wing or conservative about racism.
I'm thinking that maybe you should do more research about party switching..."learn something new everyday."
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I don't have any problems with party switchers. Do what you want, it's your life. But I think it's wrong for them to use the girl's bathroom.
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Pussy
I LOL'd. Everyone here sees you as a weak minded person. Too bad when they come, they come for all of us and not just you and yours.
And when it happens, yours looks at you and wonders why you were part of letting it happen. Mine will never look at me that way.
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I'm thinking that maybe you should do more research about party switching..."learn something new everyday."
Prowler, man, I like you. Sometimes I think you even are on to something here and there with your political opinions.
But 99% of them are wildly ignorant. This being the worst. It is not based in fact whatsoever. I understand that some racists in the south switched parties because of Nixon's Southern Strategy. That doesn't mean the parties themselves "switched places". That is such an insanely idiotic thing to believe, I can't let it stand.
If a history book is TL;DR for you, at least read this.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/300432/party-civil-rights-kevin-d-williamson
And this
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386257/myth-republican-racism-mona-charen
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Prowler, man, I like you. Sometimes I think you even are on to something here and there with your political opinions.
But 99% of them are wildly ignorant. This being the worst. It is not based in fact whatsoever. I understand that some racists in the south switched parties because of Nixon's Southern Strategy. That doesn't mean the parties themselves "switched places". That is such an insanely idiotic thing to believe, I can't let it stand.
If a history book is TL;DR for you, at least read this.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/300432/party-civil-rights-kevin-d-williamson
And this
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386257/myth-republican-racism-mona-charen
Don't disturb his preconceived ignorance with your stupid facts.
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Don't disturb his preconceived ignorance with your stupid facts.
(http://i.imgur.com/xEmzalw.jpg)
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I LOL'd. Everyone here sees you as a weak minded person. Too bad when they come, they come for all of us and not just you and yours.
And when it happens, yours looks at you and wonders why you were part of letting it happen. Mine will never look at me that way.
So, do you make the hats yourself, or does someone else make them?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6SB7na8vqnpt6MHwqdiwiaZrY1U8DQowbOnjhvfRvUeaW7ur7)
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So, do you make the hats yourself, or does someone else make them?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6SB7na8vqnpt6MHwqdiwiaZrY1U8DQowbOnjhvfRvUeaW7ur7)
Ahhh...the factual high road.
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Ahhh...the factual high road.
Wait...that's not CCTAU?
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Wait...that's not CCTAU?
It is...I got it off his MySpace page
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Wait...that's not CCTAU?
I don't smoke.
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It is...I got it off his MySpace page
Never had one. It was for queers. I see you Are familiar with it...
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Never had one. It was for queers. I see you Are familiar with it...
Prowler (left) = CCTAU (right)
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This is old but seems to be a common Clinton theme.
90 SUSPICIOUS DEATHS OF INDIVIDUALS CLOSE TO BILL CLINTON, 81 WHILE PRESIDENT
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"A trail of Death"
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The following is a list of a number of persons who have died in suspicious circumstances who
had connection to the Clintons or the Clinton's dealings. The length and breadth of this list is
disconcerting. It is beyond credibility that very many of these cases are coincidences. Forward
any errors or inconsistancies as the list has been compiled from multiple sources:
Name Date Cause Explanation
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Ron Brown's 04/96 Murdered Drive by shooting, day after Ron Brown's plane crashed.
Lawyer
Ron Brown 04/96 Plane Crash Commerce Sec. near indictment who alledgedly threatend
Secretary of Clinton with "not going down alone". U.S. said no black
Commerce box was on this government plane, though Croatian and
French TV showed teams pulling one out. Air Force,
for the first time ever, canceled the safety investigation
of a U.S. government crash on friendly soil.
34 Passengers 04/96 Plane Crash On plane with Brown. A stewardess was rescued
several hours after the crash alive. She died in route to
hospital from blood loss due to a cut femoral artery
sustained in the crash!
Adm. Borda 1996 Suicide Alledgedly shot himself in chest with handgun, disraught with
Chief of Naval questions regarding his medals that he had anwered a year
Operations earlier. He was a combat veteran from Vietnam who received
combat ribbons for some activities while there. Others, were
reclassified later to combat, afterwhich he began wearing these
as well. When questions regarding the latter ribbons arose, he
simply said he would not wear the ones in question if there was
going to be a big deal made of it. This combat veteran, and our
highest ranking naval officer, responsible for a couple of hundred
thousand service men, and always a capable officer and soldier;
now a year after settling the issue, he shoots himself over it?
Others believe that he was eliminated because he refused to
transport Chinese, Eurasian and other forces on U.S. Navy
transports to U.S. and Canadian shores for semi-permanent
"ongoing" training.
Bill Shelton 06/94 Suicide Alledgedly shot himself at gravesite of fiancee, Kathy
Ferguson,who died the month before, also from suicide.
Shelton was an Ark. state trooper who had vocally been
proclaiming that his fiancee had not committed suicide.
Alledgedly shot himself behind the left ear.
Kathy Ferguson 05/94 Suicide Ex of Ark. trooper Danny Ferguson, engaged to trooper
Bill Shelton. Danny Ferguson alledgedly escorted Paula
Jones to Clinton's hotel room and Kathy was vocal about
her knowledge in the case and was to be a corroborating
witness for Paula Jones in her sexual harrassment case
against Clinton. Alledgedly shot herself behind left ear.
Attorney for 05/94 Suicide Alledgedly jumped out of a building to kill himself. He
Dan Lassater represented Dan Lassiter, a close friend of Bill Clinton,
who was indicted on drug charges and sent to prison.
Ronald Rogers 03/94 Plane Crash Ark. dentist for Clintons, killed on way to interview with
a "London Sunday Telegraph" reporter to reveal info.
Hershell Friday 03/94 Plane Crash Clinton attorney and fund raiser. Plane blew up.
Ed Wiley 11/93 Suicide Alledgedly shot himself in head in Virginia. Real Estate
attorney and manager of Clinton presidential campaign
finance committee.
Luther Parks 09/93 Murdered Head of Clinton's security team in Little Rock, gunned
down in his car outside of Little Rock. Home broken
into before his death, dossier on Clinton taken.
Stanley Heard 09/93 Plane Crash Chair of Chiropatric Health Care Advisory Comm. for
Clinton who had treated Clinton's mother, stepfather &
brother. Killed when airplane crashed after reporting
fire on board.
Steve Dickson 09/93 Plane Crash Counsel to Mr. Heard, killed in same crash.
John Walker ????? Accident RTC investigator who fell from balcony of apartment
that was also a getaway for Vince Foster.
Vincent Foster 07/93 Suicide Alledgedly shot in Ft. Marcy Park. Bullet not found,
White House gun used stayed in hand. Initial witness said there was
Counsel no gun. Close friend of Clintons. Alleged possible
affair with Hillary, involved in Inslaw CIA computer
cover-up, tracked Clinton finances. Many irregularities
in death and its investigation.
Paul Wilcher 06/93 Murdered Wahington attorney, investigating federal corruption,
including Mena and BATF assault on Branch Davidians.
Shortly before death, gave Janet Reno with a 99 page
affadavit. Planned TV documentary. Found dead on
toilet before mtg with Danny Casolaro's attorney.
John Wilson 05/93 Suicide Alledgedly hung himself. Reportedly part of
Whitewater and was ready to talk.
Sgt. B. Haney 05/93 Helo Crash All four died in crash in the woods near Quantico, VA.
Sgt. Tim Sabel All had escorted Clinton on flight to the Roosevelt.
Maj. William Barkley Vidoetape made by firemen at crash site siezed by feds.
Capt. Scott Reynolds
5 Aviators 03/93 Plane Crash All five died in a crash when "waved off" from landing
on the carrier Roosevelt. All five had escorted Clinton
during his visit to the Roosevelt several weeks earlier.
Gen. Robertson 02/93 Helo Crash Deputy Commander, Chief of Ops, Chief of Intel. &
Col. Densberger crew Chief for V Corps which was prominent in Bosnia-
Col. Kelly Serb operations, along with the carrier Roosevelt. They
Spec. Rhodes were associated with Clinton's visit to the Roosevelt.
Helo crashed near Weisbaden Germany.
Steve Willis 02/93 Waco Assault Killed in assault on Davidian compound. All transferred
Robert William from the Secret Service, where they were Clinton guards,
Conway LeBleu to BATF prior to the assault. Killed by friendly fire.
Todd McKeehan
Jim Wilhite 12/92 Skiing Accident Vice Chair. of Arkla, Inc. with ties to Clinton & Mack
Mclarty, whom he called just hours before his death.
Paula Grober 12/92 Car Accident Speech interpreter for deaf for Bill Clinton. Killed in
car accident with no witnesses. Traveled extensively
with Clinton from 1978 `til death.
Paul Tully 09/92 Murdered Democratic Nat'l Committee Dir. found dead in hotel.
"Dear friend" of Clinton and a trusted advisor. Authored
key strategies for Clinton and the Democratic party.
Victor Raiser 07/92 Plane Crash Chair. of Mobile Telecomm whose subsidiary is SkyTel.
A finance co-chair in Clinton organization who soured.
His plane went down in Alaska on a fishing expedition.
Monty Raiser 07/92 Plane Crash Victor Raiser's son, killed in the same plane crash.
5 Passengers 07/92 Plane Crash Killed while flying with Raiser's on fishing expedition.
James Bunch ????? Suicide Suicide similar to Vince Foster. Texan w/"black book"
of influential Texans & Arkansans who visited prostitutes.
A rumor persists of potential notes on Bill Clinton.
Stanley Huggins ????? Murdered Partner in Memphis law firm investigatin Madison
Guarantee. His 300 page report has never been released.
Florence Martin ????? Murdered Accountant subcontracted to CIA in the Barry Seal case.
Dead of three gunshot wounds to the head.
Sue Coleman ????? Suicide Had affair with Clinton while attorney general. "Suicide"
with gunshot wound to the back of her head. No autopsy,
was pregnant.
Danny Casolaro 08/91 Suicide Reporter investigating Whitewater, Mena, BCCI, & ADFA.
About to receive info linking Iran-Contra to the Inslaw
scandal when found in bathtub with wrists slit.
Kevin Coney 1988-89 Murdered Six Ark. people who came forward with info about the
Gregory Collins death of 2 teens near the Mena operations. All killed
Kieth McKaskle before testifying. Stabbed, shotgunned or burned.
Jeff Rhodes Local detective, John Brown, reportedly solved the
Richard Winters case and gave findings to FBI which sat on them.
Jordan Ketelson According to Brown, "We now who killed these kids.
The reason this case has been stopped ... is because it
tracks to Bill Clinton being involved in the cover-up".
Kevin Ives 08/87 Murdered Two Bryant, Ark teens who saw too much of the Mena
Don Henry air drops. Found on train tracks. Initial report said
they fell asleep and was made by a state coroner
appointed by Bill Clinton. Parents protested and after
months, had the boys exumed and re-examined. Cause
of death then changed to murder, the boys having been
stabbed and skulls crushed before the train arrived.
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Officials in the Administration who have died in the first four years :
Secretary of Commerce
Deputy White House Counsel
Chief of Naval Operations
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Of these 89 deaths the causes break out as follows :
Deaths Cause Incidents
59 Plane Crashes 12
13 Murders 13
10 Suicides 10
04 Waco Assault 01
03 Accidents 03
If you work with Clinton and deal with any of his scandals, or if you attempt to investigate them
or accidently come across them, you will likely die in a plane crash, a murder or suicide.
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OTHER DEATHS THAT CAN BE LAID AT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S FEET, OR ARE
VERY SUSPISOUS INCLUDE, AND AMOUNT TO A REIGN OF DEATH AMD TERROR:
80+ Near Waco in the Assault on the Branch Davidian Compound.
170+ In Oklahoma City where tech. and eye witness do not match government story of bomb.
1100+ In Chicago and surrounding area from a supposed 2 day "heat" wave.
120+ In Value Jet crash where Chuck Hays, a CIA operative w/info on Foster was supposed to fly.
270+ In TWA crash. Eye witness accounts (incl. Air Nat'l Guard Pilot) do'nt match fed's story.
With the 90 above, this totals over 1830 individuals !!!
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Just isolated incidents. Move along, nothing to see.
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Just isolated incidents. Move along, nothing to see.
Yeah. But trump called someone a mean name. And made a lot of money. And lost some too. Priorities!!
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Yeah. But trump called someone a mean name. And made a lot of money. And lost some too. Priorities!!
And allegedly raped a 13 year old girl and illegally had women working in his pageants with visitors visas. Billy Bob, working at the Showbiz Pizza place, has paid more taxes in one year than Trump has in 20 years...let's see, oh yeah and had illegals helping build his tower and casinos with China's steel.
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And allegedly raped a 13 year old girl and illegally had women working in his pageants with visitors visas. Billy Bob, working at the Showbiz Pizza place, has paid more taxes in one year than Trump has in 20 years...let's see, oh yeah and had illegals helping build his tower and casinos with China's steel.
And even with the national enquirer material above, still didn't murder 100 people.
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And even with the national enquirer material above, still didn't murder 100 people.
She fucked an alien.
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Prowler (left) = CCTAU (right)
Yeah. I don't see it. I actually live in the real world and recognize bullshit when I see it.
I have no delusions that Trump will be great. I just know hitlary is shit.
If that makes me a delusional right wing nut, then I'm definitely not alone.
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She fucked an alien.
(http://www.motherjones.com/files/love-nest630.gif)
This does explain Chelsea, or what ever her name is
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Yeah. I don't see it. I actually live in the real world and recognize bullshit when I see it.
I have no delusions that Trump will be great. I just know hitlary is shit.
If that makes me a delusional right wing nut, then I'm definitely not alone.
It's things like this:
Never had one. It was for queers. I see you Are familiar with it...
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It's things like this:
Is that not just being guilty of taking the gutter bait though? That's usually where prowler takes most arguments. There wasn't one factual thing he said in his last post - from the rape thing to visas to billy Bobs taxes. Best just to defeat it with facts even if useless. CCT to me is just guilty of letting his temper get to him with prowlers ridiculous posts and thus joining him in the mud.
When you rassle with pigs, you both get dirty - but the pig likes it.
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Is that not just being guilty of taking the gutter bait though? That's usually where prowler takes most arguments. There wasn't one factual thing he said in his last post - from the rape thing to visas to billy Bobs taxes. Best just to defeat it with facts even if useless. CCT to me is just guilty of letting his temper get to him with prowlers ridiculous posts and thus joining him in the mud.
When you rassle with pigs, you both get dirty - but the pig likes it.
Or in RWS' case, the goats.
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Or in RWS' case, the goats.
Goat love
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This is why you don't nominate an unpolished inarticulate dipshit who can't speak eloquently on pretty much any policy position ever.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/05/politics/what-trump-said-what-pence-said/index.html
Look, I get that on most of these things, the media was feeding him the answer they wanted. The fact that he didn't have the good sense not to bite is THE problem those of us with sense tried to warn you about back in the primaries.
I also think it's a bit of bullshit that the clip made it look like Pence denied Trump said what he said about punishing women who have abortions, when he clearly said he wouldn't PASS LEGISLATION that punishes women and specifically said that he said that erroneously because he's not a polished politician.
FWIW, I think Pence crushed the debate and it should depress the shit out of you that the GOP nominated literally the only human that can fuck this up and lose against these dipshits the Democrats are serving up.
Side note to the side note: Making a huge fucking issue out of Trump only paying the taxes he's legally obligated to pay is the single stupidest attack I've seen in an election. And they are riding the legs off of that retarded horse. Question about the military? "Well, Trump obviously hates the military because he took tax deductions." Are you fucking serious? Pence saying "Do you not take deductions? How does that work?" was fucking :gold:.
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FWIW, I think Pence crushed the debate and it should depress the shit out of you that the GOP nominated literally the only human that can fuck this up and lose against these dipshits the Democrats are serving up.
That's where we diverge.
Jeb. Kasich. Cruz. Rubio. Florina(?). Christie. The 15 others that were up there.
None of them would be close.
The country is tired of the bullshit and was looking for somebody willing to buck the system.
The mistake the Republicans made was only having a pack of weak willies like Cruz as an alternative to Trump. If there had been a dynamic, charismatic (even slightly) Republican? That person would have annihilated Clinton and swept into office on a tsunami of support. Nobody came forth. Just the same old condescending political-speak from the rest of that pack. None of them would be close to energizing enough people to possibly derail the coronation of Empress Clinton.
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That's where we diverge.
Jeb. Kasich. Cruz. Rubio. Florina(?). Christie. The 15 others that were up there.
None of them would be close.
The country is tired of the bullshit and was looking for somebody willing to buck the system.
The mistake the Republicans made was only having a pack of weak willies like Cruz as an alternative to Trump. If there had been a dynamic, charismatic (even slightly) Republican? That person would have annihilated Clinton and swept into office on a tsunami of support. Nobody came forth. Just the same old condescending political-speak from the rest of that pack. None of them would be close to energizing enough people to possibly derail the coronation of Empress Clinton.
And that's where we diverge. I think it was a strong crop. The problem was that it was too many until the very end. No one got to really shine. The loudest child screaming got the attention when there were 17 of them up there. To call Carly or Perry or Cruz or walker or Rubio weak is laughable. I don't think filibustering obamacare is weak. When no one else would. Carson or Jeb? Sure. Pretty meek.
There is a difference is thinking he is the lesser of two evils NOW and thinking he was the best of all offered. I can go along with the first. Not the latter. If you don't think Trump is doing any politician speak then you need to look closer. He's done almost as much pandering to a certain demographic (during the primaries) as the dems do.
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And that's where we diverge. I think it was a strong crop. The problem was that it was too many until the very end. No one got to really shine. The loudest child screaming got the attention when there were 17 of them up there. To call Carly or Perry or Cruz or walker or Rubio weak is laughable. I don't think filibustering obamacare is weak. When no one else would. Carson or Jeb? Sure. Pretty meek.
There is a difference is thinking he is the lesser of two evils NOW and thinking he was the best of all offered. I can go along with the first. Not the latter. If you don't think Trump is doing any politician speak then you need to look closer. He's done almost as much pandering to a certain demographic (during the primaries) as the dems do.
+1
Although IMO Rand was the top of the crop although I'm sure you intended to leave him out.
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And that's where we diverge. I think it was a strong crop. The problem was that it was too many until the very end. No one got to really shine. The loudest child screaming got the attention when there were 17 of them up there. To call Carly or Perry or Cruz or walker or Rubio weak is laughable. I don't think filibustering obamacare is weak. When no one else would. Carson or Jeb? Sure. Pretty meek.
There is a difference is thinking he is the lesser of two evils NOW and thinking he was the best of all offered. I can go along with the first. Not the latter. If you don't think Trump is doing any politician speak then you need to look closer. He's done almost as much pandering to a certain demographic (during the primaries) as the dems do.
Ed Zachary
In fact, I think any of those you named would have long since surpassed Clinton in every phase of the game. None of these have the baggage Trump has. None of them have said the outrageously stupid things Trump has. Hilary is so corrupt and unfit to run this country, but even that is not enough to drop her below the idiocy that Trump displays most of the time.
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And that's where we diverge. I think it was a strong crop. The problem was that it was too many until the very end. No one got to really shine. The loudest child screaming got the attention when there were 17 of them up there. To call Carly or Perry or Cruz or walker or Rubio weak is laughable. I don't think filibustering obamacare is weak. When no one else would. Carson or Jeb? Sure. Pretty meek.
There is a difference is thinking he is the lesser of two evils NOW and thinking he was the best of all offered. I can go along with the first. Not the latter. If you don't think Trump is doing any politician speak then you need to look closer. He's done almost as much pandering to a certain demographic (during the primaries) as the dems do.
Weak.
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Ed Zachary
In fact, I think any of those you named would have long since surpassed Clinton in every phase of the game. None of these have the baggage Trump has. None of them have said the outrageously stupid things Trump has. Hilary is so corrupt and unfit to run this country, but even that is not enough to drop her below the idiocy that Trump displays most of the time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :thumsup:
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Ed Zachary
In fact, I think any of those you named would have long since surpassed Clinton in every phase of the game. None of these have the baggage Trump has. None of them have said the outrageously stupid things Trump has. Hilary is so corrupt and unfit to run this country, but even that is not enough to drop her below the idiocy that Trump displays most of the time.
I could not disagree more.
Beating Hillary requires the personal magnetism to bring voters to the polls. Why do you think Obama's empty suit won? Because he was the more experienced or a better leader? FUCK no.
He was the least qualified candidate for the office in the history of the country. He was nothing but empty platitudes and false promises. He beat two experienced, effective, proven leaders in McCain and Romney. He did it because he moved people.
The only place Cruz is going to move people is away from Sunday School because he looks like the holier than thou Baptist head shaker. None of the rest of those candidates has or had a chance in hell of injecting any passion into the race.
She would have scrubbed the floor and wiped her dirty ass with all of them. If you think anything else you're vastly overestimating the American public.
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Weak.
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It's a difference of opinion. And leave it at that. Conjecture at best on what the other would have done. We will never know. But I don't think it can be said with any certainty that they would have been worse. Again, conjecture.
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Although IMO Rand was the top of the crop although I'm sure you intended to leave him out.
Actually, I totally forgot about him. But yeah he's another that has filibustered when it was extremely unpopular to do so. That means something to me. Rand was solid. Scott Walker was another that has actually walked the walk. He stared down the unions and won. That's not weak. Not in a blue state.
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Weak.
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I like his pictures from the 80's better....
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It's a difference of opinion. And leave it at that. Conjecture at best on what the other would have done. We will never know. But I don't think it can be said with any certainty that they would have been worse. Again, conjecture.
I don't really disagree with you in terms of qualifications. Cruz, Rubio and the rest are probably better qualified, they're more level headed, they're more intelligent, more verbose, and so on.
I'm really only looking at the voting patterns and the schism in the American voter. Not saying Trump is better, just looking at the ardor of his supporters and the willingness to overlook whatever flaws he has.
The people are D.U.M.B. Just look around you, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell. They're willing to vote for that shrewish hag because.... none of them can say. Can't list a thing she's ever done well except being a bitch.
I just can't imagine a career politician -- no matter who it is -- having the charisma to engender the kind of support Trump is getting. That's what I believe it will take to knock her off. Politics/Politicians -- particularly with the mainstream media so sluttily in bed for her -- weren't going to get it done.
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Guess who else is in bed with her. foxynewz
A last-minute decision to drop federal charges against an arms dealer who threatened to expose Hillary Clinton's alleged role in arming Islamist militants in Libya is prompting fresh claims the Department of Justice is protecting the Democratic presidential nominee from potentially damaging revelations.
Federal prosecutors faced a Wednesday deadline to turn over discovery documents to the legal team of American Marc Turi, who had been charged with selling weapons to Libyan rebels. Late Tuesday, an announcement came that the government was dropping the case, which was set to go to trial on Nov. 8 – the day American voters choose between Clinton and GOP nominee Donald Trump. The move may avert a release of potentially explosive documents.
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I don't really disagree with you in terms of qualifications. Cruz, Rubio and the rest are probably better qualified, they're more level headed, they're more intelligent, more verbose, and so on.
I'm really only looking at the voting patterns and the schism in the American voter. Not saying Trump is better, just looking at the ardor of his supporters and the willingness to overlook whatever flaws he has.
The people are D.U.M.B. Just look around you, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell. They're willing to vote for that shrewish hag because.... none of them can say. Can't list a thing she's ever done well except being a bitch.
I just can't imagine a career politician -- no matter who it is -- having the charisma to engender the kind of support Trump is getting. That's what I believe it will take to knock her off. Politics/Politicians -- particularly with the mainstream media so sluttily in bed for her -- weren't going to get it done.
I get it. Fair enough.
I think most on here agree she needed/needs to go down. And how appalling she is. Just different takes on how best to do it.
When the primary first started I was almost content with anyone but Bush. Nothing personal against Jeb. He's a nice guy. I just thought it was a stained legacy and frankly the public will not vote another Bush into the White House right now. I really was on board with Walker and Paul from the onset. And I've always thought Rubio was extremely solid and likeable. I honestly thought all factors considered he was the best general candidate = electable + good policy + young + Latino. And I don't think he's done yet. He will be back.
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I don't really disagree with you in terms of qualifications. Cruz, Rubio and the rest are probably better qualified, they're more level headed, they're more intelligent, more verbose, and so on.
I'm really only looking at the voting patterns and the schism in the American voter. Not saying Trump is better, just looking at the ardor of his supporters and the willingness to overlook whatever flaws he has.
The people are D.U.M.B. Just look around you, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell. They're willing to vote for that shrewish hag because.... none of them can say. Can't list a thing she's ever done well except being a bitch.
I just can't imagine a career politician -- no matter who it is -- having the charisma to engender the kind of support Trump is getting. That's what I believe it will take to knock her off. Politics/Politicians -- particularly with the mainstream media so sluttily in bed for her -- weren't going to get it done.
This is the most candid and honest thing you've written in this forum this election cycle. Also confirms what I suspected all along. You've just been playing dumb.
I think I know your answer, but I have to ask anyway: Is it worth it? Is it worth it to sell your soul to the legion of (mostly racist) idiots he brings to the table to completely compromise your integrity and beliefs? Is it worth it to "win" with a guy who has an (R) after his name, but does not share any significant values or beliefs that traditionally go along with it? The whole reason, assumedly, you feel an allegiance to anyone who puts that (R) after their name in the first place? Is it worth it to "win" with a guy that is doing this kind of irreparable damage to the brand that (R) is supposed to signify? Is it worth it to have a guy clearly in over his head to take office and prove to everyone how inept he is and for everyone to associate that with that (R)? All while he champions either flatly leftist ideas, or authoritarian right-wing ideas that are caricatures of the worst, ugliest stereotypes of the right?
Is it really worth all that?
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Is that not just being guilty of taking the gutter bait though? That's usually where prowler takes most arguments. There wasn't one factual thing he said in his last post - from the rape thing to visas to billy Bobs taxes. Best just to defeat it with facts even if useless. CCT to me is just guilty of letting his temper get to him with prowlers ridiculous posts and thus joining him in the mud.
When you rassle with pigs, you both get dirty - but the pig likes it.
Actually, everything in my last post is factual. Maybe you should do a little more research on the person you want to represent you.
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Actually, everything in my last post is factual. Maybe you should do a little more research on the person you want to represent you.
#Factual.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
Do a little more "research" on Jeffrey Epstein and you'll see that Kaos and others brought equally ridiculous claims against Bill Clinton up in this very thread.
Weird how Kaos 100% believes Bill gang-banged kids with Epstein and Prowler 100% believes Trump did and neither believe the opposite. Weird how that works. So weird.
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This is the most candid and honest thing you've written in this forum this election cycle. Also confirms what I suspected all along. You've just been playing dumb.
I think I know your answer, but I have to ask anyway: Is it worth it? Is it worth it to sell your soul to the legion of (mostly racist) idiots he brings to the table to completely compromise your integrity and beliefs? Is it worth it to "win" with a guy who has an (R) after his name, but does not share any significant values or beliefs that traditionally go along with it? The whole reason, assumedly, you feel an allegiance to anyone who puts that (R) after their name in the first place? Is it worth it to "win" with a guy that is doing this kind of irreparable damage to the brand that (R) is supposed to signify? Is it worth it to have a guy clearly in over his head to take office and prove to everyone how inept he is and for everyone to associate that with that (R)? All while he champions either flatly leftist ideas, or authoritarian right-wing ideas that are caricatures of the worst, ugliest stereotypes of the right?
Is it really worth all that?
If it keeps her out?
Damn skippy.
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If it keeps her out?
Damn skippy.
Like I said:
I think I know your answer, but I have to ask anyway
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Ed Zachary
In fact, I think any of those you named would have long since surpassed Clinton in every phase of the game. None of these have the baggage Trump has. None of them have said the outrageously stupid things Trump has. Hilary is so corrupt and unfit to run this country, but even that is not enough to drop her below the idiocy that Trump displays most of the time.
Nope! I don't think any of the others would have. At this point in time you had to get the middle stirred up. Trump has stirred the middle up. The problem we're having is we got too many self righteous Republicans who think that they are so far above Trump that its pathetic. We need to all be looking Hillary and say how pathetic is she and get on the same page. Once we all get on the same page it'll be a landslide!
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It's things like this:
I should've use the word Fagg like the rest of you use, and then it would be OK I suppose.
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#Factual.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
Do a little more "research" on Jeffrey Epstein and you'll see that Kaos and others brought equally ridiculous claims against Bill Clinton up in this very thread.
Weird how Kaos 100% believes Bill gang-banged kids with Epstein and Prowler 100% believes Trump did and neither believe the opposite. Weird how that works. So weird.
Maybe you have a reading comprehension issue, I don't know...but, I did post allegedly, meaning there is a accusation from one woman, through now 3 filed suits, that Trump raped her with no proof, as of yet. #Factual #DoMoreResearch
Trump allegedly had women working in his pageants through a Visitors Visa. #Factual
Trump hasn't paid taxes in 20 years. #Factual
Trump had illegal immigrants build Trump Tower using China manufactured steel. #Factual #MakeMericaGreatAgain #BringJobsBackFromChina
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^^^^Not even close to being in true. The more you post, the more you look delusional, just as most leftwingnuts! You are a foolish human.
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#Factual.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
Do a little more "research" on Jeffrey Epstein and you'll see that Kaos and others brought equally ridiculous claims against Bill Clinton up in this very thread.
Weird how Kaos 100% believes Bill gang-banged kids with Epstein and Prowler 100% believes Trump did and neither believe the opposite. Weird how that works. So weird.
I responded to prowler knowing good and well none of what he said was true. It's all been fact checked. And he always responds with the same "maybe you should do some research" crap. Rinse. Repeat.
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Maybe you have a reading comprehension issue, I don't know...but, I did post allegedly, meaning there is a accusation from one woman, through now 3 filed suits, that Trump raped her with no proof, as of yet. #Factual #DoMoreResearch
Trump allegedly had women working in his pageants through a Visitors Visa. #Factual
Trump hasn't paid taxes in 20 years. #Factual
Trump had illegal immigrants build Trump Tower using China manufactured steel. #Factual #MakeMericaGreatAgain #BringJobsBackFromChina
1 You can allege anything.
2 Have you ever ran a business? Losses happen. And there are tax breaks that exist within the IRS for s corps, c corps and llc's to limit or reduce tax liability depending on what your gain or loss is. When I had a business I claimed a loss the first two years. Which is very common.
3 The demand for steel in the U.S. Outweighs supply. Meaning supply has to be tapped from elsewhere. Sad but true.
But I know I may as well be telling the ceiling fan these things....
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^^^^Not even close to being in true. The more you post, the more you look delusional, just as most leftwingnuts! You are a foolish human.
Agree with this ^^^. If that was meant for prowler.
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I like his pictures from the 80's better....
You forgot the video game he was in:
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Nope! I don't think any of the others would have. At this point in time you had to get the middle stirred up. Trump has stirred the middle up. The problem we're having is we got too many self righteous Republicans who think that they are so far above Trump that its pathetic. We need to all be looking Hillary and say how pathetic is she and get on the same page. Once we all get on the same page it'll be a landslide!
I get where you're coming from and you can go back 100 pages or so in these threads and see that I gave Trump props from the beginning for doing one thing. Telling the politically correct, social justice warriors that have been choking the life out of this country to kiss his entire ass. Whether half of what he said was raving lunacy or not, the other half was exactly what so much of the country needed and wanted to hear.
I damn near shudder at the thought of him in office, for 1,000 different reasons. But let's not go there. He's the candidate and he's still the lesser of two evils IMO. But back to the point. I think GH said it earlier. It was the 437 candidates that blew it for the Repubs. Nobody stood out except for the special needs kid with weird hair, brashly saying whatever came to mind, without filter. We would have been far better served if Rubio or Paul or Walker, somebody along those lines, nosed out Trump. And then Trump, after getting that segment of voters behind him, threw his support behind the nominee and campaigned hard for him. Then you're talking landslide.
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^^^^Not even close to being in true. The more you post, the more you look delusional, just as most leftwingnuts! You are a foolish human.
Ummm, yeah...regardless if you choose to believe it or not, does not matter, all that I posted is 100% factual...every single bit. Go back to sticking your head in the sand and pretend none of it is real, fucking dumbass...and you are the reason why Trump is the Republican candidate. He likes the uneducated voters.
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1 You can allege anything.
2 Have you ever ran a business? Losses happen. And there are tax breaks that exist within the IRS for s corps, c corps and llc's to limit or reduce tax liability depending on what your gain or loss is. When I had a business I claimed a loss the first two years. Which is very common.
3 The demand for steel in the U.S. Outweighs supply. Meaning supply has to be tapped from elsewhere. Sad but true.
But I know I may as well be telling the ceiling fan these things....
Doesn't change that fact that everything that I posted was 100% factual.
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Ummm, yeah...regardless if you choose to believe it or not, does not matter, all that I posted is 100% factual...every single bit. Go back to sticking your head in the sand and pretend none of it is real, fucking dumbass...and you are the reason why Trump is the Republican candidate. He likes the uneducated voters.
Oh please. I would put everything I am up against you and win every time. You are pretty much a social loser. You hate the fact that you have no worldly success and now you run to the hitlary teet. You calling me a dumbass is about the most absurd thing you have ever said. Come back when you are relevant!
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Oh please. I would put everything I am up against you and win every time. You are pretty much a social loser. You hate the fact that you have no worldly success and now you run to the hitlary teet. You calling me a dumbass is about the most absurd thing you have ever said. Come back when you are relevant!
There you go again. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. Never said I'm voting for Hillary, but you're to fucking ignorant to understand that. I dislike both candidates and would never vote for either of them. I guess I need to be more "worldly" to vote for one of the biggest pieces of garbage in a presidental race...then I could maybe be proud to be associated with the biggest group of mouth breathers in the World (think a combination of bama, West Virginia, Arkansas, & Florida fans...maybe sprinkle in a bit of the Cajun LSU fans). I could also then look pass all of his colossal business failures when trying to explain how he's a great business man (nevermind that 1 Billion dollar loss in one year, owes Russia money, and how only one bank on Earth will do business with him)...then when his tax evasion gets brought up, I can say how smart he was for knowing how to navigate through all of the loopholes (nevermind the fact that he actually doesn't know anything about taxes. He has someone do them for him, he just signs on the line...not that smart, regardless if he knows words, big words, yuuuuge words, the greatest words).
Wow, it must feel so awesome to be worldy, to have no principles about who you want to have representing you.
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There was like a half a page where CCTAU & Prowler weren't in here where things were starting to actually get civil and grounded in reality...
:facepalm:
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There you go again. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. Never said I'm voting for Hillary, but you're to fucking ignorant to understand that. I dislike both candidates and would never vote for either of them. I guess I need to be more "worldly" to vote for one of the biggest pieces of garbage in a presidental race...then I could maybe be proud to be associated with the biggest group of mouth breathers in the World (think a combination of bama, West Virginia, Arkansas, & Florida fans...maybe sprinkle in a bit of the Cajun LSU fans). I could also then look pass all of his colossal business failures when trying to explain how he's a great business man (nevermind that 1 Billion dollar loss in one year, owes Russia money, and how only one bank on Earth will do business with him)...then when his tax evasion gets brought up, I can say how smart he was for knowing how to navigate through all of the loopholes (nevermind the fact that he actually doesn't know anything about taxes. He has someone do them for him, he just signs on the line...not that smart, regardless if he knows words, big words, yuuuuge words, the greatest words).
Wow, it must feel so awesome to be worldy, to have no principles about who you want to have representing you.
If you aren't voting for Trump, you are advocating for hitlary. That has already been established. Everything else you posted was drivel.
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There was like a half a page where CCTAU & Prowler weren't in here where things were starting to actually get civil and grounded in reality...
:facepalm:
Whatever. Like you are some bastion of wisdom....
Half of your shit has been laughed at repeatedly. Up until recently, you were dangerously close to being prowler 2.0...
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Whatever. Like you are some bastion of wisdom....
Half of your shit has been laughed at repeatedly. Up until recently, you were dangerously close to being prowler 2.0...
Chad may differ on opinion. But he does post facts. And isn't a mindless drone.
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Chad may differ on opinion. But he does post facts. And isn't a mindless drone.
At one time his "facts" were very sketchy opinions. And came in 2000 word essays.
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At one time his "facts" were very sketchy opinions. And came in 2000 word essays.
Just saying his and prowlers posts aren't even in the same league.
Prowler logic:
The sky is green
Actually no it's not prowler.
Yes it is. Do your research!!
No it's not. Here is a picture of it right now and it's blue.
So what! That still doesn't change the fact that what I just said was 100% fact!
I mean - how do you even engage civilly with that kind of thought train? Sorry but chad is not even close to that.
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Just saying his and prowlers posts aren't even in the same league.
Prowler logic:
The sky is green
Actually no it's not prowler.
Yes it is. Do your research!!
No it's not. Here is a picture of it right now and it's blue.
So what! That still doesn't change the fact that what I just said was 100% fact!
I mean - how do you even engage civilly with that kind of thought train? Sorry but chad is not even close to that.
Point conceded!
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Point conceded!
Now you two go hug it out and rub tips.
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Now you two go hug it out and rub tips.
Well. To be fair I should have called you a Pu**y after you were right. Seems to be the going thing here!
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(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/14322508_1618868641739900_7289682273255818755_n2_zpsrpdy8aeo.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/14322508_1618868641739900_7289682273255818755_n2_zpsrpdy8aeo.jpg.html)
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Just saying his and prowlers posts aren't even in the same league.
Prowler logic:
The sky is green
Actually no it's not prowler.
Yes it is. Do your research!!
No it's not. Here is a picture of it right now and it's blue.
So what! That still doesn't change the fact that what I just said was 100% fact!
I mean - how do you even engage civilly with that kind of thought train? Sorry but chad is not even close to that.
I have seen a green sky, it was right before a Tornado came through Fultondale back in '84. So, you are wrong...yet again. Do more research before looking like a complete moron...or before looking like your boy Trump trying to telling the people of Nevada how to pronounce their own State name (he got booed, especially when he said it wrong, slowly, as if he was talking to people that were hearing impaired).
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(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/14322508_1618868641739900_7289682273255818755_n2_zpsrpdy8aeo.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/14322508_1618868641739900_7289682273255818755_n2_zpsrpdy8aeo.jpg.html)
For a moment. And a brief one. I stopped hating you.
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I have seen a green sky, it was right before a Tornado came through Fultondale back in '84. So, you are wrong...yet again. Do more research before looking like a complete moron...or before looking like your boy Trump trying to telling the people of Nevada how to pronounce their own State name (he got booed, especially when he said it wrong, slowly, as if he was talking to people that were hearing impaired).
ho lee fuk...Prowler.
did a decipticon crawl in your ear and embed in your T-Rex brain.
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ho lee fuk...Prowler.
did a decipticon crawl in your ear and embed in your T-Rex brain.
It's not nice to make fun of dead Asian airline pilots. Your creepy racism is ubiquitous.
Do better.
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ho lee fuk...Prowler.
did a decipticon crawl in your ear and embed in your T-Rex brain.
I'm guessing you don't know that the sky can turn green.
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I'm guessing you don't know that the sky can turn green.
Chemtrails.
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I guess you all heard. Gary Johnson's running mate all but quit to endorse Hillary.
Who's Prowler going to use as a protest vote now?
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I guess you all heard. Gary Johnson's running mate all but quit to endorse Hillary.
Who's Prowler going to use as a protest vote now?
"All but".
You only read headlines don't you.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/05/bill-weld-media-is-publishing-made-up-st
Seriously, click the link. You're falling for the Clinton campaign's organized directive to sabotage Johnson.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/298183-democrats-target-libertarian-ticket
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"All but".
You only read headlines don't you.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/05/bill-weld-media-is-publishing-made-up-st
Seriously, click the link. You're falling for the Clinton campaign's organized directive to sabotage Johnson.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/298183-democrats-target-libertarian-ticket
Trump may be dumb, but he's not subversive, corrupt and evil.
Can you please get on board now?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html
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Could kill his campaign. Should kill his campaign.
Some things should have killed Hillary's campaign too.
This election is all kinds of screwed up.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuMSDybUkAEOfiE.jpg)
Jameis thinks Trump campaign is skrong.
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Could kill his campaign. Should kill his campaign.
Some things should have killed Hillary's campaign too.
This election is all kinds of screwed up.
Yup and now you'll get to hear the Trumpets defending his sexual assaults.
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While I'm no Trump fan, I'm not put off at all by his comments.
I've heard/said worse in the barracks.. or in my fraternity house... or when I was out with friends at a bar on any day ending in the letter "y."
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Trump may be dumb, but he's not subversive, corrupt and evil.
Can you please get on board now?
LMAO...I'm not sure if you're being serious or just plain ignorant. Trump is, in fact, subversive & corrupt.
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While I'm no Trump fan, I'm not put off at all by his comments.
I've heard/said worse in the barracks.. or in my fraternity house... or when I was out with friends at a bar on any day ending in the letter "y."
Yes, but you're not running for President of the United States.
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Yes, but you're not running for President of the United States.
How do you feel about Hillary's alleged quotes to secret service agents and military personal?
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How do you feel about Hillary's alleged quotes to secret service agents and military personal?
Don't bother. Hitlary lets Americans die just a few years ago and these turds are offended by something said 11 years ago!
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Don't bother. Hitlary lets Americans die just a few years ago and these turds are offended by something said 11 years ago!
I can see that you don't care that your guy admitted to sexual assault on apparently numerous occasions. Now if a certain woman or women would sue him, I'm sure you'd scoff at that too. Smh...such a sad human being.
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Yes, but you're not running for President of the United States.
So what? The hypocrisy is astounding. I've seen worse from everyone on this board.
You can't show me a man alive or dead (and isn't gay) who hasn't talked some ahit about some chick's bangability or assets.
I'd hate to imagine some of the crass conversations most of you have had that were not recorded.
"You're not running for president"
Blow it out your ass. He wasn't either in 2005
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So what? The hypocrisy is astounding. I've seen worse from everyone on this board.
You can't show me a man alive or dead (and isn't gay) who hasn't talked some ahit about some chick's bangability or assets.
I'd hate to imagine some of the crass conversations most of you have had that were not recorded.
"You're not running for president"
Blow it out your ass. He wasn't either in 2005
After all the shit that Bill Clinton did while in office ?
I agree with Kaos. And Trump.
i just threw up in my mouth.
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While I agree that I've said shit in privacy that I wouldn't want in public, he is finished. If you are voting for Trump solely because you don't want Hillary in the Whitehouse, then you now have to hope he steps away and let's Pence take over. Trump can't beat her now, it's over if he remains in.
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After all the shit that Bill Clinton did while in office ?
I agree with Kaos. And Trump.
i just threw up in my mouth.
...Bill Clinton was impeached. Now the Republicans that led the impeachment were found to have had their own extramarital affairs...think Newt will fully support Trump now (Trump affairs with all 3 wives, going into detail on tape with how he would harass or sometimes sexually assault the women)?
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...Bill Clinton was impeached. Now the Republicans that led the impeachment were found to have had their own extramarital affairs...think Newt will fully support Trump now (Trump affairs with all 3 wives, going into detail on tape with how he would harass or sometimes sexually assault the women)?
He wasn't impeached for fucking around. He was impeached for lying under oath.
He and Hillary went scorched earth on all the women that Bill fucked. It sickens me to watch that bitch play the woman card. Trump didn't say anything that all men have said in private. It was lockerroom banter.
When Bill did it, all the Dems claimed it was private and not the public's concern. I tended to agree with them. They can't have it both ways.
He's done though. The Republican leadership is scrambling away like cockroaches. I think they are not upset about this. They want him gone and this is how they will do it.
Maybe we will get a decent option to vote for. Lord knows these two crooks don't deseve it.
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I hate what this country has become.
Trump is a pariah because he bragged about his prowess with women and used a couple of words that every man in the history of the planet has said at least once. But ERHH MAHH GAAWWWWD!!! A womern should NEVER be talked about in that way!!
Meanwhile, Clinton destroys women her husband screwed, she lies under oath, she gets American troops killed by her indifference and her incompetence and the left-owned media showers her with adoration.
This country is doomed. I didn't think I'd live long enough to see it, but it's over.
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Trump is a pariah because he bragged about his prowess with women
That wasn't prowess he was trumpeting. It was an entitled mentality that, in his opinion, allows him to lay hands on any woman in his reach should he choose to do so.
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That wasn't prowess he was trumpeting. It was an entitled mentality that, in his opinion, allows him to lay hands on any woman in his reach should he choose to do so.
Like forcing them to put a cigar in their cooch ?
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He wasn't impeached for fucking around. He was impeached for lying under oath.
He and Hillary went scorched earth on all the women that Bill fucked. It sickens me to watch that bitch play the woman card. Trump didn't say anything that all men have said in private. It was lockerroom banter.
When Bill did it, all the Dems claimed it was private and not the public's concern. I tended to agree with them. They can't have it both ways.
He's done though. The Republican leadership is scrambling away like cockroaches. I think they are not upset about this. They want him gone and this is how they will do it.
Maybe we will get a decent option to vote for. Lord knows these two crooks don't deseve it.
It wouldn't surprise to me to find out the Republican Party leaked it. They never liked him, Trump himself was never a threat to the 2 party system, he was always going to say something stupid or have a skeleton fall out of the closet. Their concern has always been the possibility of a non politician stepping in and destroying the gravy life our politicians have created for themselves.
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That wasn't prowess he was trumpeting. It was an entitled mentality that, in his opinion, allows him to lay hands on any woman in his reach should he choose to do so.
It was shit talking by a guy who had money and COULD get pretty much anything he wanted.
It's not pretty, but no different than an zillion things I've heard pretty much every guy I've ever known say at some point. Pretending that's not who we are as a collective group (men) and the faux horror from all these people? It's fraudulent.
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It wouldn't surprise to me to find out the Republican Party leaked it. They never liked him, Trump himself was never a threat to the 2 party system, he was always going to say something stupid or have a skeleton fall out of the closet. Their concern has always been the possibility of a non politician stepping in and destroying the gravy life our politicians have created for themselves.
Yep.
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It was shit talking by a guy who had money and COULD get pretty much anything he wanted.
He's saying that everyone lets him sexually assault whomever he wants because he's a "star."
Gross.
Giving Trump a pass on this while castigating Jameis makes you a hypocrite.
Like forcing them to put a cigar in their cooch ?
Going to need to see something to indicate that it was non-consensual. I've never heard that.
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Going to need to see something to indicate that it was non-consensual. I've never heard that.
You got me there counselor. Heresay.
I've been with women that will go ass-to-mouth, but not allow a stogie in their vag. I made an assumption. Line of questioning struck.
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He's saying that everyone lets him sexually assault whomever he wants because he's a "star."
Gross.
Giving Trump a pass on this while castigating Jameis makes you a hypocrite.
You've lost your leftist little mind. "Sexual assault?" :facepalm:
Trump was talking shit in front of another guy. Bragging about how cool he was. It's juvenile and vulgar. It's also 100% stereotypically male. I played golf yesterday with an accountant who is on the city council and a high ranking college official. The things they imagined out loud they could get the 22 year old cart girl to do for them would boggle your sensitive little mind. One of them is a church deacon or elder or whatever. One is a democrat and I'm sure he's outraged today.
As for Jamies? Long way from talking shit to raping somebody.
I'm really disappointed in you.
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You've lost your leftist little mind. "Sexual assault?" :facepalm:
Trump was talking shit in front of another guy. Bragging about how cool he was. It's juvenile and vulgar. It's also 100% stereotypically male. I played golf yesterday with an accountant who is on the city council and a high ranking college official. The things they imagined out loud they could get the 22 year old cart girl to do for them would boggle your sensitive little mind. One of them is a church deacon or elder or whatever. One is a democrat and I'm sure he's outraged today.
As for Jamies? Long way from talking shit to raping somebody.
I'm really disappointed in you.
You do realize that a sexual harassment case against Trump was filed in '97 right? A woman that wanted to do business with Trump and one of his casinos (beauty contest, car shows, concerts, etc)...Trump had her & her boyfriend over with some of the beauty contestants. She was groped at the dinner table and then pulled aside into Trump's daughter's bedroom. He was going to fuck her in his daughter's room. They left that night instead of staying. They ended up doing business with Trump, then he did want Trump is known to do...not pay what he owed them. The lawsuit was settled out of court, because Trump agreed to pay them what he owed only if she'd drop the sexual harassment lawsuit.
This is the type of person you want in the White House? SMH
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You've lost your leftist little mind. "Sexual assault?" :facepalm:
Yes. Unwanted touching is an assault. Bragging that you can grab a woman by the pussy (sexual assault) because you're a star is fucking gross.
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Sounds like a wanna be rapper. I thought you guys lived rappers!
11 years ago when the guy never thought he'd run for office, he talked shit to another guy about how women will do pretty much anything for you if you are famous. Sounds like every Rick group ever! Except Stryper...
Laos is right. The hypocrisy is astounding.
But the guy did apologize. He stood up and apologize d for something SAiD 11 years ago. I wonder how many people died because he said that!
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Sounds like a wanna be rapper. I thought you guys lived rappers!
11 years ago when the guy never thought he'd run for office, he talked shoot to another guy about how women will do pretty much anything for you if you are famous. Sounds like every Rick group ever! Except Stryper...
Laos is right. The hypocrisy is astounding.
But the guy did apologize. He stood up and apologize d for something SAiD 11 years ago. I wonder how many people died because he said that!
You posting from your phone makes for some of the best posts ever.
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You posting from your phone makes for some of the best posts ever.
The struggle is real.
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Yes. Unwanted touching is an assault. Bragging that you can grab a woman by the pussy (sexual assault) because you're a star is fucking gross.
Said no male ever.
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Said no male ever.
Plenty of judges and prosecutors have said just that.
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Plenty of judges and prosecutors have said just that.
Which part?
The part where they said it talking to their buddies? Or the part where they feigned disgust and prayed nobody had them on tape?
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/us/nancy-odell-bio/index.html
If she wasn't victimized the first time around she is now.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/us/nancy-odell-bio/index.html
If she wasn't victimized the first time around she is now.
I'd fuck her.
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I'd fuck her.
That's disgusting.
I'm leaving this forum and I'm going to find another one where women aren't objectified by a bunch of pervert men discussing what all they'd like to do to scantily dressed young ladies. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Think I'll try the concourse. That seems innocent.
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I can see that you don't care that your guy admitted to sexual assault on apparently numerous occasions. Now if a certain woman or women would sue him, I'm sure you'd scoff at that too. Smh...such a sad human being.
Sexual assault? From what I read, he struck out.
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That's disgusting.
I'm leaving this forum and I'm going to find another one where women aren't objectified by a bunch of pervert men discussing what all they'd like to do to scantily dressed young ladies. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Think I'll try the concourse. That seems innocent.
www.aufamily.com
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www.aufamily.com
I'm banned from there because of Godfather.
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I'm banned from there because of Godfather.
He pretty much fucks up anything he touches.
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And I meant sub-forum.
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If you thought those were the only tapes with Trump going into detail about how he'd fuck women, you'd be wrong. Howard Stern keeps records of everything.
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If you thought those were the only tapes with Trump going into detail about how he'd fuck women, you'd be wrong. Howard Stern keeps records of everything.
The same Howard Stern that said he'd never vote for another Democrat, no matter who they ran?
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Like Sanders, Trump is controlled opposition. http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/10/08/leaked-emails-show-trump-tool-used-hillary-campaign-day-one/
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The same Howard Stern that said he'd never vote for another Democrat, no matter who they ran?
I guess.
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I guess.
I'll say this. Yeah he said those things. Sleezy typical guy statements? Sure. Not gonna pretend they were ok.
But Bill Clinton DID these things.....as POTUS....in the White House.....and lied about it!
So yes Trump was wrong. But anyone justifying that Hillary is better because of it is a fucking hypocrite. What the Clintons did in this regard was 100 times worse. Read about how Bill assaulted Dick Morris and threatened to kill him. Or how Hillary threw small furniture items at Bill. It's good shit.
I think they would call this a push at a cards table. At worst.
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Like Sanders, Trump is controlled opposition. http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/10/08/leaked-emails-show-trump-tool-used-hillary-campaign-day-one/
This is a bottom feeder link you should actually click.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuSNMj2WgAAvi4X.jpg)
Rats following the Pied Piper off the cliff right here in this very thread.
Sad seeing people play into exactly the trap Hillary set for you and are completely oblivious to the con...
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Something interesting concerning that link is what was revealed in the Wall Street transcripts. Hillary mentions the need for moderate, balanced decisions in government to keep the economy moving. She credits a balance between conservative and liberal ideology - and specifically mentions the positives of a two party system - for America's recovery after the 2008 recession compared to the slow growth of extremely left-leaning Europe.
But HRC and the DNC want to destroy the Republican party? I'm not sure I understand the hypocrisy.
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This is a bottom feeder link you should actually click.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuSNMj2WgAAvi4X.jpg)
Rats following the Pied Piper off the cliff right here in this very thread.
Sad seeing people play into exactly the trap Hillary set for you and are completely oblivious to the con...
I don't really see this as a big deal.
If I were on the other side I'd be hoping the democrats end up nominating her. Because she's so gratingly annoying, such a callous bitch, so out of touch and vulnerable on so many fronts.
Why do you think she's not going to make ANY appearances between now and the election? When have you ever seen a candidate locked in a close race completely sequester? She's doing it because she knows that every time people see her hideous face there's a chance more will reject her. More will turn away in revulsion.
She's that bad.
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I don't really see this as a big deal.
If I were on the other side I'd be hoping the democrats end up nominating her. Because she's so gratingly annoying, such a callous bitch, so out of touch and vulnerable on so many fronts.
Why do you think she's not going to make ANY appearances between now and the election? When have you ever seen a candidate locked in a close race completely sequester? She's doing it because she knows that every time people see her hideous face there's a chance more will reject her. More will turn away in revulsion.
She's that bad.
You got played like a fiddle by Hillary. You did exactly what she wanted you to do from the beginning.
You should be embarrassed.
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I'm voting Trump regardless, just hope he isn't what the media says he is. AL.CUM endorses Killary.
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/10/endorsement_hillary_clinton.html
I don't believe everything I read, which is why I post it here. I need more educated and experienced minds to give their input. Most here with the exception of Prowler.
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You got played like a fiddle by Hillary. You did exactly what she wanted you to do from the beginning.
You should be embarrassed.
I got nothing by that whore.
I would support anybody who was opposite her as I said a billion fucking times.
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I got nothing by that whore.
I would support anybody who was opposite her as I said a billion fucking times.
So, you'd support Stalin or Hitler? Shame!!!
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I'll say this. Yeah he said those things. Sleezy typical guy statements? Sure. Not gonna pretend they were ok.
But Bill Clinton DID these things.....as POTUS....in the White House.....and lied about it!
So yes Trump was wrong. But anyone justifying that Hillary is better because of it is a fucking hypocrite. What the Clintons did in this regard was 100 times worse. Read about how Bill assaulted Dick Morris and threatened to kill him. Or how Hillary threw small furniture items at Bill. It's good shit.
I think they would call this a push at a cards table. At worst.
That's just it, they're both horrible and it's bullshit that we have to choose between a Douchebag, orange piece of garbage or a conniving, murdering, shit sandwich.
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That's just it, they're both horrible and it's bullshit that we have to choose between a Douchebag, orange piece of garbage or a conniving, murdering, shit sandwich.
Well, at least you can wash off orange garbage. Murder? Not so much.
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That's just it, they're both horrible and it's bullshit that we have to choose between a Douchebag, orange piece of garbage or a conniving, murdering, shit sandwich.
You can look back in any of these threads....I wanted neither. And voted for neither.
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Whatever. I will not vote for hitlary or any candidate that would cause me to be a surrogate for her.
Trump does not scare me. I've dealt with men like him all my life. I do not need a safe space. And I will give him a chance to prove everybody wrong. I already know what Killary will do. And that is not acceptable to me and those like me. There are a shitload of us. Get on board or be left out when the shit hits the fan.
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Whatever. I will not vote for hitlary or any candidate that would cause me to be a surrogate for her.
Trump does not scare me. I've dealt with men like him all my life. I do not need a safe space. And I will give him a chance to prove everybody wrong. I already know what Killary will do. And that is not acceptable to me and those like me. There are a shitload of us. Get on board or be left out when the shit hits the fan.
I'll say that he's having a great debate. I thought he lost the first one.
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So, you'd support Stalin or Hitler? Shame!!!
Over her?
Fucking A.
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Over her?
Fucking A.
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I'll say this. Yeah he said those things. Sleezy typical guy statements? Sure. Not gonna pretend they were ok.
But Bill Clinton DID these things.....as POTUS....in the White House.....and lied about it!
So yes Trump was wrong. But anyone justifying that Hillary is better because of it is a fucking hypocrite. What the Clintons did in this regard was 100 times worse. Read about how Bill assaulted Dick Morris and threatened to kill him. Or how Hillary threw small furniture items at Bill. It's good shit.
I think they would call this a push at a cards table. At worst.
Women are starting to come forward to tell about their interactions with Trump, this story is far from over. The Justice Department that Trump said he'd use to investigate Hillary over her emails, could be investigating him soon over sexual assault.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/09/anderson-cooper-told-trump-that-is-sexual-assault-the-justice-department-agrees/
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Women are starting to come forward to tell about their interactions with Trump, this story is far from over. The Justice Department that Trump said he'd use to investigate Hillary over her emails, could be investigating him soon over sexual assault.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/09/anderson-cooper-told-trump-that-is-sexual-assault-the-justice-department-agrees/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/09/anderson-cooper-told-trump-that-is-sexual-assault-the-justice-department-agrees/)
They tried this shit with Herman Cain. Trump won't run. Good luck.
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It's like Trump grabbed all these butt hurt liberals by the pussy with this line he uttered 11 years ago.
What a bunch of hypersensitive hypocrites.
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Well, at least you can wash off orange garbage. Murder? Not so much.
Actual rape is hard to wash off, too. They want to look past that fact though because, you know, Trump said mean things and junk.
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I've been in a room with one of the politicians who is loudly decrying Trump. I heard this same man make some of the most vulgar comments you can imagine "joking" around with the rest of the men at the table. I heard this man make taco references in regard to a young woman who was in her early 20s.
To see and hear him shitting himself to denounce Trump? I wish I'd had a recorder going back then.
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I've been in a room with one of the politicians who is loudly decrying Trump. I heard this same man make some of the most vulgar comments you can imagine "joking" around with the rest of the men at the table. I heard this man make taco references in regard to a young woman who was in her early 20s.
To see and hear him shitting himself to denounce Trump? I wish I'd had a recorder going back then.
One politician that I know went to Northwestern & Johns Hopkins. He's a hypocrite, because I smoked weed with Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Ketering...they were blazing that shit up every day.
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Hillary is more of a Republican than Trump.
Wikileaks published her Wall Street conversations where she expressed pro-fracking, pro-free trade, balanced financial regulation, and blasted "the heavy hand of government" in Argentina.
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-wall-street-promoted-commission-pushed-social
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-expresses-support-fracking-wikileaks-document-2428659
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Hillary is more of a Republican than Trump.
Wikileaks published her Wall Street conversations where she expressed pro-fracking, pro-free trade, balanced financial regulation, and blasted "the heavy hand of government" in Argentina.
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-wall-street-promoted-commission-pushed-social
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-expresses-support-fracking-wikileaks-document-2428659
Hillary is a politician and nothing more. She says what suits her when it suits her.
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Hillary is more of a Republican than Trump.
Wikileaks published her Wall Street conversations where she expressed pro-fracking, pro-free trade, balanced financial regulation, and blasted "the heavy hand of government" in Argentina.
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-wall-street-promoted-commission-pushed-social
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-expresses-support-fracking-wikileaks-document-2428659
Are these her public or private stances on the issues because, by her own words, you must have both.
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Wow. Trump is too much of a turd for even Glenn Beck.
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Wow. Trump is too much of a turd for even Glenn Beck.
Where the hell have you been? Come out of that 55 gallon drum every now and then.
Beck has been off his rocker a while now. Trump pushed him over the edge 9 months ago!
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Wow. Trump is too much of a turd for even Glenn Beck.
BEta Male CuCK amirite?
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BEta Male CuCK amirite?
What the hell is a cuck?
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Where the hell have you been? Come out of that 55 gallon drum every now and then.
Beck has been off his rocker a while now. Trump pushed him over the edge 9 months ago!
He's endorsing Hillary. That's new.
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He's endorsing Hillary. That's new.
I didn't read it as an endorsement. More like a "don't vote for Trump, and if Hillary gets elected, that's ok."
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Wow. Trump is too much of a turd for even Glenn Beck.
Beck has been a "self proclaimed" Libertarian for a few years now.
He's endorsing Hillary. That's new.
This is surprising. I would have thought he would have publically endorsed Johnson just to keep the Libertarians off his ass.
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Wow. Trump is too much of a turd for even Glenn Beck.
Beck has never been a trump fan....you've been under a rock this year. He's part of the never trump crowd.
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Its like I type it:
Where the hell have you been? Come out of that 55 gallon drum every now and then.
Beck has been off his rocker a while now. Trump pushed him over the edge 9 months ago!
And you translate it!
Beck has never been a trump fan....you've been under a rock this year. He's part of the never trump crowd.
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Its like I type it:
And you translate it!
I didn't read thread after his post before responding. But I think he probably gets the point.
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The majority of prominent Republicans denouncing Trump now. The few who refuse to are being castigated. The party is ripped to shreds. This is what you Trumpkins wanted.
And Trump continues to pour gas on the fire.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785816454042124288
Despite winning the second debate in a landslide (every poll), it is hard to do well when Paul Ryan and others give zero support!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785828772423561216
Our very weak and ineffective leader, Paul Ryan, had a bad conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785846205750337537
With the exception of cheating Bernie out of the nom the Dems have always proven to be far more loyal to each other than the Republicans!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785854588654092290
Disloyal R's are far more difficult than Crooked Hillary. They come at you from all sides. They don’t know how to win - I will teach them!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785885793340448769
The very foul mouthed Sen. John McCain begged for my support during his primary (I gave, he won), then dropped me over locker room remarks!
You guys wanted to see the party burnt down. You wanted to "show the establishment" and the "career politicians". Then demand party loyalty behind the guy that demonstrates NO signs that he represents anything the party is supposed to stand for?
Again, I ask you: If Trump were actually a Democrat plant, what would he be doing differently?
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The majority of prominent Republicans denouncing Trump now. The few who refuse to are being castigated. The party is ripped to shreds. This is what you Trumpkins wanted.
And Trump continues to pour gas on the fire.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785816454042124288
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785828772423561216
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785846205750337537
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785854588654092290
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785885793340448769
You guys wanted to see the party burnt down. You wanted to "show the establishment" and the "career politicians". Then demand party loyalty behind the guy that demonstrates NO signs that he represents anything the party is supposed to stand for?
Again, I ask you: If Trump were actually a Democrat plant, what would he be doing differently?
It is exactly what I wanted. Now if only someone would leak something that would destroy Hillary and the DNC this would have been the most significant general election in our nation's history.
The crash of the 2 party system is exactly what this country needs.
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Here's my question. Had Trump ran on the DNC ticket, would the same people still be supporting him? I think for the most part the answer would be yes.
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It is exactly what I wanted. Now if only someone would leak something that would destroy Hillary and the DNC this would have been the most significant general election in our nation's history.
The crash of the 2 party system is exactly what this country needs.
Not so much a crash, but a reorg that gives the power back to the people.
And Trump is right, dims are shitty people, but by god they stick together!
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It is exactly what I wanted. Now if only someone would leak something that would destroy Hillary and the DNC this would have been the most significant general election in our nation's history.
The crash of the 2 party system is exactly what this country needs.
Only one party is crashing.
Voting third party is the solution you're looking for, not voting this clown show Democrat plant into office under the guise of Republicanism.
"But he has no chance! You're throwing your vote away! Waah!"
YOU are throwing your vote away if you think a vote for Trump makes fuck all of a difference in Alabama (or just about any state besides maybe AZ and IA).
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=538twitter
Alabama is 99.4% likely to go Trump. What do you really think you're accomplishing by being one of a sea of contributing to the inevitable in your state? All you're doing is encouraging the bastards. That's it.
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All you're doing is encouraging the bastards. That's it.
The "bastards" sincerely tell people like you to kiss their ass on the way to your safe space.
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Here's my question. Had Trump ran on the DNC ticket, would the same people still be supporting him? I think for the most part the answer would be yes.
I disagree. I think he'd have more support overall. I don't think you'd see the mainstream media shitting on him at every turn like you do now. I don't think he'd be branded as a racist. I don't think NBC would have found it prudent to release this recent tape, for example. That's a discussion I can agree with some of you on. The media's in the tank for the left.
I think he could hold exactly the same positions he's currently holding and 99.9% of people would still vote their major party loyalties. CCTAU & Kaos would never shut up about what a blithering idiot he is and how they would vote for Kennedy's carcass before they would vote for such a dangerous monster. If Hillary didn't change a single policy but was instead Laura Bush running as a Republican, they'd be all aboard.
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The "bastards" sincerely tell people like you to kiss their ass on the way to your safe space.
You're a fucking idiot. Take that to your safe space.
Tell me for the 400th time what "people like me" think. Take that broad brush of yours and keep painting positions for me that NOT ONLY have I never espoused, but that I have repeatedly, vehemently opposed. That's how to win an argument for sure. Got a keen meme for me?
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I disagree. I think he'd have more support overall. I don't think you'd see the mainstream media shitting on him at every turn like you do now. I don't think he'd be branded as a racist. I don't think NBC would have found it prudent to release this recent tape, for example. That's a discussion I can agree with some of you on. The media's in the tank for the left.
I think he could hold exactly the same positions he's currently holding and 99.9% of people would still vote their major party loyalties. CCTAU & Kaos would never shut up about what a blithering idiot he is and how they would vote for Kennedy's carcass before they would vote for such a dangerous monster. If Hillary didn't change a single policy but was instead Laura Bush running as a Republican, they'd be all aboard.
That's just it Chad, the media isn't going to allow the 3rd party to stand a chance either. They won't. The only reason they aren't crucifying Johnson is because he isn't a threat. They won't allow it.
The GOP is finished. The members who are turning their backs on Trump now will face a backlash in the next 2 years giving the DNC full control. Maybe that's what needs to happen. Too many people don't pay attention or give a shit. They are sheep. Maybe this country does need to get real shitty for a decade before the majority of the population starts to really give a fuck again.
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That's just it Chad, the media isn't going to allow the 3rd party to stand a chance either. They won't. The only reason they aren't crucifying Johnson is because he isn't a threat. They won't allow it.
Au contraire. There is a very real and very organized campaign by the mainstream media to attack Johnson (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/298183-democrats-target-libertarian-ticket), specifically because Democrats see him as a threat.
And to think he will win any single state, let alone enough to win the electoral college, is entirely beside the point. The point is to get enough of the votes to lend credence and legitimacy to politicians actually operating outside of the two party duopoly. And if you think that's impractical, again, I point you to the realization that your major party vote, especially for Trump in Alabama, absolutely does not affect shit.
The GOP is finished. The members who are turning their backs on Trump now will face a backlash in the next 2 years giving the DNC full control. Maybe that's what needs to happen. Too many people don't pay attention or give a shit. They are sheep. Maybe this country does need to get real shitty for a decade before the majority of the population starts to really give a fuck again.
If true, that would be misguided and idiotic to face backlash for sticking to principles rather than an oafish clown asshole who does not share any of them. The backlash, from anyone with a brain sloshing around in their skull at least, will be on the people who sold out everything they stand for to support the idiot that deliberately tore apart the party.
I also forgot to finish my earlier thought, which is I don't think if Trump were running as a Dem you'd have the Daily Stormer white nationalists or the Pepe-loving /pol alt-righters supporting him either like you have now. I just don't think, as I was saying, the media would be focusing as heavily on making him out to be a bigot, and therefore those types wouldn't be associating him with it and supporting him specifically because of it.
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You're a fucking idiot. Take that to your safe space.
Tell me for the 400th time what "people like me" think. Take that broad brush of yours and keep painting positions for me that NOT ONLY have I never espoused, but that I have repeatedly, vehemently opposed. That's how to win an argument for sure. Got a keen meme for me?
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/2NCL/you-re-a-faggot/image.png)
Run little man, run. They are about to close the door on your safe space...
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I think he could hold exactly the same positions he's currently holding and 99.9% of people would still vote their major party loyalties. CCTAU & Kaos would never shut up about what a blithering idiot he is and how they would vote for Kennedy's carcass before they would vote for such a dangerous monster. If Hillary didn't change a single policy but was instead Laura Bush running as a Republican, they'd be all aboard.
LOL. Now who's got the brush, sissy boy!
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(http://memecrunch.com/meme/2NCL/you-re-a-faggot/image.png)
Run little man, run. They are about to close the door on your safe space...
This makes zero sense and still doesn't answer the question "what does chizad think". Run to his safe place? I believe, I know since I pay attention to what others are saying, that chizad thinks the idea of a safe place to be idiotic.
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This makes zero sense and still doesn't answer the question "what does chizad think". Run to his safe place? I believe, I know since I pay attention to what others are saying, that chizad thinks the idea of a safe place to be idiotic.
Since it sounds as though your feelings are hurt too, you can join him there.
Regardless of what he has said in the past about safe spaces, he is acting just like one of the people that advocate for them. Please try to keep up.
Don't make me whip a meme out on your ass too!
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Since it sounds as though your feelings are hurt too, you can join him there.
Regardless of what he has said in the past about safe spaces, he is acting just like one of the people that advocate for them. Please try to keep up.
Don't make me whip a meme out on your ass too!
Why are my feelings hurt? Because you do the typical Liberal thing and attack someone and call them a faggot and avoid the question because they aren't agreeing with you. I don't really give a fuck and have been #NeverTrump from day 1. I can tell you don't pay attention to shit or read anything anyone says or you would know exactly where I stand. I have zero party loyalty and haven't since 97 or 98 when the GOP totally abandoned their people and platform. As soon as they put forth a candidate that I can support, then I will no longer vote 3rd party or write in. Again, it doesn't matter in rural AL who I cast a vote for since the state will vote about 80% Trump therefore giving him all 7 of Alabama's crucial electoral votes that will ultimately decide the outcome.
How is he advocating for a safe place? Because he doesn't like Trump? So fucking what. There are a lot of people that don't like the guy.
Oh you can bust out a meme, they are so original and funny.
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Why are my feelings hurt? Because you do the typical Liberal thing and attack someone and call them a faggot and avoid the question because they aren't agreeing with you. I don't really give a fuck and have been #NeverTrump from day 1. I can tell you don't pay attention to shit or read anything anyone says or you would know exactly where I stand. I have zero party loyalty and haven't since 97 or 98 when the GOP totally abandoned their people and platform. As soon as they put forth a candidate that I can support, then I will no longer vote 3rd party or write in. Again, it doesn't matter in rural AL who I cast a vote for since the state will vote about 80% Trump therefore giving him all 7 of Alabama's crucial electoral votes that will ultimately decide the outcome.
How is he advocating for a safe place? Because he doesn't like Trump? So fucking what. There are a lot of people that don't like the guy.
Oh you can bust out a meme, they are so original and funny.
(https://media.tenor.co/images/6c26eb787cf05133783ac236b2fca0ca/raw)
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You're a fucking idiot. Take that to your safe space.
Tell me for the 400th time what "people like me" think. Take that broad brush of yours and keep painting positions for me that NOT ONLY have I never espoused, but that I have repeatedly, vehemently opposed. That's how to win an argument for sure. Got a keen meme for me?
Someone say keen? Queue dallas.....
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Someone say keen? Queue dallas.....
A keen safe space, I am working on it.
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Why are my feelings hurt? Because you do the typical Liberal thing and attack someone and call them a faggot and avoid the question because they aren't agreeing with you. I don't really give a fuck and have been #NeverTrump from day 1. I can tell you don't pay attention to shit or read anything anyone says or you would know exactly where I stand. I have zero party loyalty and haven't since 97 or 98 when the GOP totally abandoned their people and platform. As soon as they put forth a candidate that I can support, then I will no longer vote 3rd party or write in. Again, it doesn't matter in rural AL who I cast a vote for since the state will vote about 80% Trump therefore giving him all 7 of Alabama's crucial electoral votes that will ultimately decide the outcome.
How is he advocating for a safe place? Because he doesn't like Trump? So fucking what. There are a lot of people that don't like the guy.
Oh you can bust out a meme, they are so original and funny.
This guy ^^^
Good points on late to mid 90s abandonment. They abandoned their people when Bob Dole, Delay and gwb were selected as the standard bearers going forward instead of Newt and Lott. F them. They are reaping what they sow right now. They caused an 80s hustler like trump to come in and become the savior with bright minds like Rubio and Paul on the horizon. Are those two perfect? Nope. But neither did anything more egregious than Reagan. And those guys running this year (many of them very solid) got thrown out with the bath water because of what people like the bushes did.
Rubio, Paul, walker, Cruz were all used as scapegoats being "politicians". They were not the ones who caused this. Those guys had all been around less than 5 years. They were not the ones who have been the issue. That's the part that pisses me off more than anything. Trump was able to convince an entire voting bloc that those guys were the problem.
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Why are my feelings hurt? Because you do the typical Liberal thing and attack someone and call them a faggot and avoid the question because they aren't agreeing with you. I don't really give a fuck and have been #NeverTrump from day 1. I can tell you don't pay attention to shit or read anything anyone says or you would know exactly where I stand. I have zero party loyalty and haven't since 97 or 98 when the GOP totally abandoned their people and platform. As soon as they put forth a candidate that I can support, then I will no longer vote 3rd party or write in. Again, it doesn't matter in rural AL who I cast a vote for since the state will vote about 80% Trump therefore giving him all 7 of Alabama's crucial electoral votes that will ultimately decide the outcome.
How is he advocating for a safe place? Because he doesn't like Trump? So fucking what. There are a lot of people that don't like the guy.
Oh you can bust out a meme, they are so original and funny.
Sounds like you are butthurt because you haven't been able to express your #nevertrump outrage on this board to your satisfaction. And now you are trying to get a little riled up on me. I was addressing fagboy jizzad. If you now want to be included, I can oblige.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7c/7ca5642d076a6623b7cae866fe72e7fc5b6844266abd97f80d4a6fa499785154.jpg)
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This guy ^^^
Good points on late to mid 90s abandonment. They abandoned their people when Bob Dole, Delay and gwb were selected as the standard bearers going forward instead of Newt and Lott. F them. They are reaping what they sow right now. They caused an 80s hustler like trump to come in and become the savior with bright minds like Rubio and Paul on the horizon. Are those two perfect? Nope. But neither did anything more egregious than Reagan. And those guys running this year (many of them very solid) got thrown out with the bath water because of what people like the bushes did.
Rubio, Paul, walker, Cruz were all used as scapegoats being "politicians". They were not the ones who caused this. Those guys had all been around less than 5 years. They were not the ones who have been the issue. That's the part that pisses me off more than anything. Trump was able to convince an entire voting bloc that those guys were the problem.
New and Trent were crucified and that left McCain, Bush, Doyle, McConnell and other RHINO's to run wild. Bush grew the federal government at 13% during his 8 years. That has never been a part of the GOP platform. The GOP can't claim to be the champion's of smaller and less government anymore. Not since 98 at least.
Also, to anyone that thinks my rural North Alabama vote counts, go ask rural Pennsylvania voters if their votes counted. They went red 97% to 3%. Pittsburgh and Philadelphia carried the state blue since that is where the majority of the population lives. Unless you live in an urban area of a swing state, then it doesn't matter and amount to anything other than you being able to say "At least I didn't vote for Hilary".
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:rofl:
Sounds like you are butthurt because you haven't been able to express your #nevertrump outrage on this board to your satisfaction. And now you are trying to get a little riled up on me. I was addressing fagboy jizzad. If you now want to be included, I can oblige.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7c/7ca5642d076a6623b7cae866fe72e7fc5b6844266abd97f80d4a6fa499785154.jpg)
I think you are arguing with two people who agree with you more than you think.
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This guy ^^^
Good points on late to mid 90s abandonment. They abandoned their people when Bob Dole, Delay and gwb were selected as the standard bearers going forward instead of Newt and Lott. F them. They are reaping what they sow right now. They caused an 80s hustler like trump to come in and become the savior with bright minds like Rubio and Paul on the horizon. Are those two perfect? Nope. But neither did anything more egregious than Reagan. And those guys running this year (many of them very solid) got thrown out with the bath water because of what people like the bushes did.
Rubio, Paul, walker, Cruz were all used as scapegoats being "politicians". They were not the ones who caused this. Those guys had all been around less than 5 years. They were not the ones who have been the issue. That's the part that pisses me off more than anything. Trump was able to convince an entire voting bloc that those guys were the problem.
Oh. And we aren't talking about 90s abandonment. We have to work with what we have today. I find it hard to sit around for 20 something years with a chapped ass. Now is the time to stop the left, not whine about the abandonment. We all know what's been going on. That is why we have Trump.
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Sounds like you are butthurt because you haven't been able to express your #nevertrump outrage on this board to your satisfaction. And now you are trying to get a little riled up on me. I was addressing fagboy jizzad. If you now want to be included, I can oblige.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7c/7ca5642d076a6623b7cae866fe72e7fc5b6844266abd97f80d4a6fa499785154.jpg)
No, I have expressed it earlier in this thread and others. I have a problem with you deflecting Chads question by calling him a faggot through a meme and not answering his question. It's a tired and true Liberal tactic. I thought GOP'ers and conservatives didn't have to resort to the tactics of Liberals by personal attacks to deflect.
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:rofl:
I think you are arguing with two people who agree with you more than you think.
I know. But it sounds like one them just needs to get it out. I am here for the greater good. The other is still his daddy's daughter!
See. no meme!
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Oh. And we aren't talking about 90s abandonment. We have to work with what we have today. I find it hard to sit around for 20 something years with a chapped ass. Now is the time to stop the left, not whine about the abandonment. We all know what's been going on. That is why we have Trump.
If people had only cared this much during the primaries.
And I'm saying he wasn't the solution. But he was excellent at capitalizing on it. If you think he is some fixer of big govt and the old tired bureaucracy then I suggest you look at his solutions for healthcare and his new childcare plan (hint - it's a new program that will COST). Is he the lesser of two evils? Possibly. It's like cyanide versus a bullet. But for future elections sake, I say these things because we need to look at substance and record vs being swooned by the loudest siren that tells me what I want to hear.
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No, I have expressed it earlier in this thread and others. I have a problem with you deflecting Chads question by calling him a faggot through a meme and not answering his question. It's a tired and true Liberal tactic. I thought GOP'ers and conservatives didn't have to resort to the tactics of Liberals by personal attacks to deflect.
He called all Trump supporters "bastards". It hurt my feelings. I don't have a safe space, therefore I pulled out my BIG 6" meme and whacked his ass.
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I know. But it sounds like one them just needs to get it out. I am here for the greater good. The other is still his daddy's daughter!
See. no meme!
Greater good - a favorite term of the communist manifesto.
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Oh. And we aren't talking about 90s abandonment. We have to work with what we have today. I find it hard to sit around for 20 something years with a chapped ass. Now is the time to stop the left, not whine about the abandonment. We all know what's been going on. That is why we have Trump.
The 90's abandonment is the reason we have such a terrible candidate as Trump. Anyone of the others that ran would mop the floor with HRC and now she is probably going to win.
Not enough complained about the abandonment and that is why we have the RHINO's in congress now that we have. 20 years of shitty politicians and shitting on the party platform is why we are having to deal it with what we have today. So yeah, I am pissed about the last 20 years and so should every other conservative.
Stop the left? Hell, McCain, McConnell, Snowe, Collins, Graham and others are the left. Center left at best. The left moved in about 2000 in disguise. Trump is center at best and will tend to go left more than he will the right. Take a look at his Healthcare and Childcare solutions. No where near what I could call right.
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If people had only cared this much during the primaries.
And I'm saying he wasn't the solution. But he was excellent at capitalizing on it. If you think he is some fixer of big govt then I suggest you look at his solutions for healthcare and his new childcare plan (hint - it's a new program that will COST).
We all cared! But all we got was a bunch of milktoast guys who only advocated slightly changing things. Not one EVER said they hear the American people. They stood up there like each of their accomplishments were enough. It wasn't. Whether Trump is a conservative or a liberal is not matter. If he can accomplish only three things on his agenda, he will have done more for the US than any conservative in the last 20 years.
There is much more to ACA than just healthcare. We have already ventured down the path of some form of government option. We just need it to be realistic. What we have now has proven to be horrible.
TRUMP/PENCE 2016 BITCHES!
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Greater good - a favorite term of the communist manifesto.
You don't have to love me. Just worship me!
You're welcome.
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We all cared! But all we got was a bunch of milktoast guys who only advocated slightly changing things. Not one EVER said they hear the American people. They stood up there like each of their accomplishments were enough. It wasn't. Whether Trump is a conservative or a liberal is not matter. If he can accomplish only three things on his agenda, he will have done more for the US than any conservative in the last 20 years.
There is much more to ACA than just healthcare. We have already ventured down the path of some form of government option. We just need it to be realistic. What we have now has proven to be horrible.
TRUMP/PENCE 2016 BITCHES!
If you thought those 4 guys didn't do anything you obviously haven't paid attention. It takes a lot of balls to take on unions. And win. And to filibuster Barry. Twice. And willing to use the purse strings to reign in runaway costs. Isn't that what we wanted? People who have some balls to do unpopular things on Capitol Hill. Isn't that what Walker Cruz and Paul have done? Like them or hate them, those guys had solid records of doing major things to buck the current system. They couldn't do it alone. But they got lumped in with McConnel, bush and McCain.
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Wait, Chad's gay?
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If you thought those 4 guys didn't do anything you obviously haven't paid attention. It takes a lot of balls to take on unions. And win. And to filibuster Barry. Twice. And willing to use the purse strings to reign in runaway costs. Isn't that what we wanted? People who have some balls to do unpopular things on Capitol Hill. Isn't that what Walker Cruz and Paul have done? Like them or hate them, those guys had solid records of doing major things to buck the current system. They couldn't do it alone. But they got lumped in with McConnel, bush and McCain.
Was about to post this same thing. How in the world they got lumped in with the establishment in their short times in congress and have people believe it was one hell of a con job.
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Wait, Chad's gay?
Pretty sure him and AWK touched tips once.
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CCTAU & Kaos would never shut up about what a blithering idiot he is
You know nothing.
I wouldn't support her for anything. I don't know if she smells like sulfur, but I'm smart enough to see her for what she is. Evil, corrupt, power-mad, deranged, bogus, elitist, piece of shit who's never worked for anything in her life. She's clueless about what makes the world work, wants to impose her sick and twisted vision of "utopia" on all of us little people who are beneath her and hardly worthy of her notice. She's rage-fueled and revenge-minded. She has no regard for America or the freedoms we take for granted. Obama considers himself the emperor of the world. She views herself as the queen of the globe. Don't have a problem with thinking globally so long as you put American interests first. NAFTA? That was HER brainchild, not Billy's. She lobbied for it. She promoted it. It murdered small town America. On purpose? Maybe so. She could give a fuck about the average little man. She caters to the urban elite. Who gives a shit if Cornstalk Iowa has dozens of boarded up storefronts and hundreds of empty homes after the textile jobs all got shipped to Mexico and the middle class fell apart. That doesn't concern her. Of course she lies her ass off now and says she didn't want it when she did. Obamacare? She wants credit for that too. And it's a big, stinking socialist turd.
So no, it doesn't matter who's running against her. I'm for them, whoever they are.
In general, however, I'm issue specific.
I want a candidate who's going to rein in the tax structure. Forget spreading the wealth, how about we spread the fucking burden for a change. I'm not rich, but the amount of taxes I pay -- just wrote a check today, actually -- is staggering. If I could cut it by 10-15% even, I'd be able to hire at least one more person, pay that person a decent living wage and provide them benefits. That person could buy things and pay taxes which would, in turn, keep other businesses alive and people employed.
Except I can't. When the government is raping me up front with this Obamacare bullshit and then jamming it in from behind with taxes? It's killing me.
I want a candidate who's going to put America first.
First in defense.
First in trade.
First in negotiation.
I want somebody who has a plan to pull back on government control. It's not the feds business how states handle marriage issues, education issues, or any of the things they are trying to 1984 on us these days.
If that person is a democrat? So be it. I'd vote for them. That hasn't been the case in my lifetime.
Trump's not perfect. But -- for hopefully the last time -- he's better than her no matter what he said on a bus. My God, that's such small potatoes. You'd think he'd killed babies after raping their mothers.
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If you thought those 4 guys didn't do anything you obviously haven't paid attention. It takes a lot of balls to take on unions. And win. And to filibuster Barry. Twice. And willing to use the purse strings to reign in runaway costs. Isn't that what we wanted? People who have some balls to do unpopular things on Capitol Hill. Isn't that what Walker Cruz and Paul have done? Like them or hate them, those guys had solid records of doing major things to buck the current system. They couldn't do it alone. But they got lumped in with McConnel, bush and McCain.
MILKTOAST. None of them could look anyone in the eye and convince them. Wavered on all hot topic buttons. Only Cruz seemed to have the balls, but came across as holier than thou. In the end, most of them turned out to be right there with the other establishment GOP. I had hopes for Cruz, but he showed his true colors too.
The GOP did this to themselves. Yes the loudest guy was heard. But he was saying we wanted to hear. Whether it si true or not, it seemed he actually looked around and saw what was going on. The rest were playing politics and got beat.
Too bad for a couple of those guys. But I see a bright future for several of them.
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Wait, Chad's gay?
Yes. WT convinced me of it a long time ago.
I'm not exactly sure how he knew...
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Was about to post this same thing. How in the world they got lumped in with the establishment in their short times in congress and have people believe it was one hell of a con job.
Because it became insurgent vs establishment. One or the other. When in reality there were three routes. If we wanted an insurgent businessman Hermain Cain would have been much better. Again, we have future elections. And congressional elections. It's important to learn lessons from this year. Trumps saving grace may indeed be Supreme Court picks. If he stands by the list he released, it's a far better list than what Hillary will submit. I'll give him that much. But as sad I hate to say this, his economic plan will drive us deeper in debt. More so than hers. That liberal Cato institute even said as much.
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But as sad I hate to say this, his economic plan will drive us deeper in debt. More so than hers. That liberal Cato institute even said as much.
I've seen many different interpretations of this.
Bring back jobs and we have plenty of tax money. Whether it is bad in the short term or not, we have to do something now. If not, we only stretch it out a bit further.
Show of hands, how many of us actually produce a product any longer?
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MILKTOAST. None of them could look anyone in the eye and convince them. Wavered on all hot topic buttons. Only Cruz seemed to have the balls, but came across as holier than thou. In the end, most of them turned out to be right there with the other establishment GOP. I had hopes for Cruz, but he showed his true colors too.
The GOP did this to themselves. Yes the loudest guy was heard. But he was saying we wanted to hear. Whether it si true or not, it seemed he actually looked around and saw what was going on. The rest were playing politics and got beat.
Too bad for a couple of those guys. But I see a bright future for several of them.
Jeb was truly the only one I just didn't want from day 1. No more bush. No more neocons. Hate it for Jeb because he seems like nice enough of a guy. Prob the brightest of that bush clan. But his timing was awful. And he was weak.
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I've seen many different interpretations of this.
Bring back jobs and we have plenty of tax money. Whether it is bad in the short term or not, we have to do something now. If not, we only stretch it out a bit further.
Show of hands, how many of us actually produce a product any longer?
We do need manufacturing back. We need a balanced economy. We're way too service and luxury heavy.
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We do need manufacturing back. We need a balanced economy. We're way too service and luxury heavy.
The way back is through jobs.
But we can't have jobs because of NAFTA.
Government needs more money because it's a big greedy hog feeding at a trough, so when the jobs go away and the tax base shrinks, they stick it harder to those of us who would actually employ people.
Then we can't hire anybody because we can't afford it. So we don't grow.
And the economy shrinks.
And they stick it to us harder.
And we lay people off. The economy shrinks.
And they stick it to us harder.
There's a tipping point. We're very close to it. There's going to come a point where there's not enough of us to support the Bernie/Prowler crowd. It's going to get ugly then.
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Jeb was truly the only one I just didn't want from day 1. No more bush. No more neocons. Hate it for Jeb because he seems like nice enough of a guy. Prob the brightest of that bush clan. But his timing was awful. And he was weak.
GOP screwed us all when they didn't pressure Jeb enough to run in 2000. Now, would he have been the second coming of Reagan, of course not, but he would have been twice the PTOUS that his brother was.....which still isn't saying much, but you get the point.
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No, I have expressed it earlier in this thread and others.
What a faggot, expecting him to read people's posts before he goes on a tier attributing what he thinks their positions are.
He called all Trump supporters "bastards". It hurt my feelings. I don't have a safe space, therefore I pulled out my BIG 6" meme and whacked his ass.
Reading is really hard for this guy.
"The bastards" are Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. I find it amazing that you found a way to read that as "all Republicans". By not reading it, I guess.
By the way, I was referencing this book:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51sQbhNLo-L.jpg)
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I want a candidate who's going to put America first.
First in defense.
(https://images.washingtonpost.com/?url=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2013/01/4A8078449E794DFB8CC33ADD00A6F1AF.gif&op=noop)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/01/07/everything-chuck-hagel-needs-to-know-about-the-defense-budget-in-charts/
I don't think there's any chance we'll ever NOT be #1 there. By the way, all that funding comes from the taxes you're bitching about.
First in trade.
First in negotiation.
Whut? Please show me the world "trade and negotiation rankings". And Trump & Hillary have basically the same trade policy, which is the opposite of the Republican party's traditional pro-trade policy. If you want to be "first in trade", assuming that means actually encouraging it, then Gary Johnson's your guy.
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What a faggot, expecting him to read people's posts before he goes on a tier attributing what he thinks their positions are.
Reading is really hard for this guy.
"The bastards" are Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. I find it amazing that you found a way to read that as "all Republicans". By not reading it, I guess.
People are gonna vote.
I don't think it will go the way the polls suggest, though. That bitch will probably still win and all of us in the basket of losers will have to bend to her will. I think it will be closer than people think.
Why? Dumb reason really. My daughter said they had a vote in her class. Had a class debate where two people were for Trump and the rest of the class was for Clinton. Teacher was solid for Clinton (surprise there). They looked at their positions on three major topics: Immigration, terrorism and economy. (or so she says).
Then they took a blind vote. Trump won. Teacher asked for a show of hands. Nobody voted for Trump. Nobody would admit it except the two who argued for him. Except the majority did vote for him when they weren't being asked to do so in public.
Does that mean anything? Probably not. It does, to me at least, indicate that there may be a larger group than we'd think who are quietly going to pull his lever (aka grab him by the pussy) when the time comes behind closed doors. The media is so harsh on Trump, so negative toward him that people are afraid to admit in public that they support the man or will vote for him. There's a stigma attached.
Regardless of the outcome? I think that's PATHETIC. When millions of people are debased and scorned for making a political choice? That's not the America I know.
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\ If you want to be "first in trade", assuming that means actually encouraging it, then Gary Johnson's your guy.
*sigh*
I can't take him seriously because he's not going to even make a ripple. Doobie's smoked.
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Turned Fox News on when I walked in, was just interested in what they were saying. 25 minutes spent talking about Trump baby, how awesome the energy question guy is and they played a video of the debate with a song dubbed to it.
They've conceded.
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This from the recent batch of Wikileaks. I thought it was relevant to today's discussion.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CugcGS8WcAAJgH-.jpg:large)
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We are about to see the most shit slinging in the history of elections.
As a side note, I voted for Rubio and still believe he would have BY FAR been the best candidate in this election.
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We are about to see the most shoot slinging in the history of elections.
As a side note, I voted for Rubio and still believe he would have BY FAR been the best candidate in this election.
You feel that way because he hates Auburn.
#AuburnLivesMatter
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They tried this shit with Herman Cain. Trump won't run. Good luck.
He might not have a choice. When Obama won by a landslide in the last election, he only won by 7 points. At the rate this election is going they're going to have to rethink their idea of "landslide".
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He might not have a choice. When Obama won by a landslide in the last election, he only won by 7 points. At the rate this election is going they're going to have to rethink their idea of "landslide".
It won't be 1984 ass kicking, but she will more states than Obama won in 2012.
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This from the recent batch of Wikileaks. I thought it was relevant to today's discussion.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CugcGS8WcAAJgH-.jpg:large)
Yup.
Rubio was solid. Until he got baited into a shitfest.
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Yup.
Rubio was solid. Until he got baited into a shitfest.
Perhaps. He was a puppet. Christie destroyed his political campaign in a two minute soundbite.
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Yup.
Rubio was solid. Until he got baited into a shitfest.
He didn't have the gravitas.
He would be losing by triple digits at this point. Believe me.
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Perhaps. He was a puppet. Christie destroyed his political campaign in a two minute soundbite.
Elaborate.
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He didn't have the gravitas.
He would be losing by triple digits at this point. Believe me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDTeMNhuPTc
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We are about to see the most shit slinging in the history of elections.
As a side note, I voted for Rubio and still believe he would have BY FAR been the best candidate in this election.
He looked weak on immigration.
He still has a shot in the next few years. The rest are pretty much done.
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Fuck's sake. I'll let one mistake slide, but twice is deliberate fucking ignorance.
Milk toast...like some fucking breakfast order.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDTeMNhuPTc
Whatever he says "believe me" about...believe the exact opposite.
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Yup.
Rubio was solid. Until he got baited into a shitfest.
I agree...solid right up until he started talking about Trump's hands, then that was it.
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Remember, all you deplorable Trumpets, to vote on Nov. 28th.
http://youtu.be/ePAlVq04rOs
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All that USA Today has in regard to the Wiki Leaks?
Trump campaign linked to Russian hackers!!!!
:facepalm: :facepalm:
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Fuck's sake. I'll let one mistake slide, but twice is deliberate fucking ignorance.
Milk toast...like some fucking breakfast order.
Wasn't sure if someone would catch that.
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Perhaps. He was a puppet. Christie destroyed his political campaign in a two minute soundbite.
Substance should dictate that. Not sound bites in a debate. Christie is a fat fuckface riding trumps coat tails hoping for a cabinet position because his career as gov is all but done. And he was the most establishment candidate up there not named Jeb.
I think the establishment tried to get cozy with him when it was apparent Jeb was done. Doesn't make him a puppet though. He was solid. Not perfect. His one major mistake was gang of 8. I think he knew it too. He trusted the dems way too much and probably learned the hard way not to do that ever again. Besides it was nothin worse than what reagan did on immigration which was also a mistake he was remorseful over.
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He looked weak on immigration.
He still has a shot in the next few years. The rest are pretty much done.
That may have been perception, but his stance during gang of 8 is what trumps is now. Remember when trump changed his stance on mass deportation a month or two ago? Now it is in line with a path to citizenship. Not saying anything is wrong with that. Just saying rubios position at worst has been the same thing.
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-next-deplorables-clinton-campaign-rips-backwards-catholic-beliefs-in-le
WASHINGTON, D.C., October 11, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – “Conservative Catholics†are the latest Americans to be smeared by members of Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign, leaked emails revealed on Tuesday show.
Catholic beliefs are bashed as “backwards†and conservative Catholics are termed responsible for “an amazing bastardization of the faith†in one of the more than 1,000 hacked emails from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta released Tuesday afternoon by WikiLeaks.
“I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion,†writes Clinton campaign Director of Communications Jennifer Palmieri. “Their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals.â€
The exchange between Palmieri, then president of the leftist Center for American Progress (CAP), John Halpin, a senior fellow for CAP, and Podesta, occurred in April 2011 and was entitled “Conservative Catholicism.â€
“They can throw around ‘Thomistic’ thought and ‘subsidiarity’ and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they're talking about,†Halpin wrote Palmieri and Podesta.
Halpin goes on to describe how “many of the most powerful elements of the conservative movement are all Catholic,†and refers to Catholic beliefs as “severely backwards†and asserts that conservative Catholics are utterly ignorant of Christian democracy.
“It's an amazing bastardization of the faith,†Halpin says in the email. “They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy.â€
An April 2015 email from Podesta to Palmieri on campaign rhetoric portraying Clinton as caring about American citizens has Podesta writing, “I know she has begun to hate everyday Americans, but I think we should use it once the first time she says I'm running for president because you and everyday Americans need a champion.â€
First, if we changed "catholic" or "christian" to "muslim" or "islam" how long before these guys would be out of a job?
Second, all of these cockstains can kiss my Catholic ass.
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That may have been perception, but his stance during gang of 8 is what trumps is now. Remember when trump changed his stance on mass deportation a month or two ago? Now it is in line with a path to citizenship. Not saying anything is wrong with that. Just saying rubios position at worst has been the same thing.
He mentioned changing it, but I thought he came out in his interview and stuck with the plan?
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Fuck's sake. I'll let one mistake slide, but twice is deliberate fucking ignorance.
Milk toast...like some fucking breakfast order.
Like two day old breakfast.
Android changes words.
Besides, who drinks milk with a Q?
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-next-deplorables-clinton-campaign-rips-backwards-catholic-beliefs-in-le
First, if we changed "catholic" or "christian" to "muslim" or "islam" how long before these guys would be out of a job?
Second, all of these cockstains can kiss my Catholic ass.
:haha:
And you just thought it was us dummies clutching our bibles and guns.
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Like two day old breakfast.
Android changes words.
Besides, who drinks milk with a Q?
People who know the difference between dairy and a famous character?
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-next-deplorables-clinton-campaign-rips-backwards-catholic-beliefs-in-le
First, if we changed "catholic" or "christian" to "muslim" or "islam" how long before these guys would be out of a job?
Second, all of these cockstains can kiss my Catholic ass.
Hey, wait a minute. I was told this was a Protestant only place.
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Hey, wait a minute. I was told this was a Protestant only place.
Pfffttt... come over to the dark side, we will say hi to you in the liquor stores.
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Bill just called us rednecks.
Hillary says we're losers and deplorable. Billy says we're red.
But that's ok. Because the media thinks we are.
:facepalm:
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Bill just called us rednecks.
Hillary says we're losers and deplorable. Billy says we're red.
But that's ok. Because the media thinks we are.
:facepalm:
And when she wins she will come after us with both barrels.
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And when she wins she will come after us with both barrels.
After she takes all of our guns away...
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After she takes all of our guns away...
You already don't have any. No?
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You already don't have any. No?
Yup...I don't have any guns...nope, no guns here...
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Buckle up, buttercup.
This is exactly what those of us with functioning brains knew was coming.
There's gonna be at least two or three of these stories a week for the next 4 weeks.
Here are more just from today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html
Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/palm-beach-post-exclusive-local-woman-says-trump-groped-her/w5ii48gwdJY9htsLl88GcP/
Palm Beach Post exclusive: Local woman says Trump groped her
Not just talked about grabbing and kissing women against their will. Doing it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/10/12/former-miss-arizona-trump-just-came-strolling-right-in-on-naked-contestants/
Former Miss Arizona: Trump ‘just came strolling right in’ on naked contestants
Including this doozy:
four women in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Trump walked into their dressing room while they were changing. Some were as young as 15
And speaking of Ms. Teen USA:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/teen-usa-2010-told-trump-doesn-black-people-article-1.2828733
Former Miss Teen USA Kamie Crawford says she was told ‘Mr. Trump doesn’t like black people’ during 2010 beauty pageant
You nominated a piece of shit. It was clear from day one he was a piece of shit, but the idiocy of the people that propped him up couldn't be countered. Now you get to lie in this bed...
All of those were from today. Y'all ready for 28 more days like this?
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VIDEO of Trump lustfully eyeing a 10 year old and saying "I'm going to be dating her in 10 years, can you believe it?"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-unearthed-footage-trump-says-of-10-year-old-i-am-going-to-be-dating-her-in-10-years/
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VIDEO of Trump lustfully eyeing a 10 year old and saying "I'm going to be dating her in 10 years, can you believe it?"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-unearthed-footage-trump-says-of-10-year-old-i-am-going-to-be-dating-her-in-10-years/
He's a sick and twisted piece of garbage...
The Trumpets to defend him coming in 3...2...1...
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Thow MORE accounts from two MORE women. Ho-ly-shit.
http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-attacked-people-writer/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-miss-usa-dressing-room-2001-rehearsal
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He's a sick and twisted piece of garbage...
The Trumpets to defend him coming in 3...2...1...
"You see, these women, and the dozens, maybe hundreds more we're going to hear from every day for the next month are all filthy liars and are not to be trusted. Bill Clinton's accuser's though? They are pure!
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He's a sick and twisted piece of garbage...
The Trumpets to defend him coming in 3...2...1...
And Hillary has countless people murdered. I don't have to defend myself here. Never, ever said I was a Trump guy. But every one of these people coming forward NOW? What a fucking joke. What a pathetic, laughable, horribly contrived joke this is.
Check this out. How about we create a new system? It's quite simple, actually. You set a deadline for anyone thinking of running for President to announce. Once they've announced, you set a time limit of oh, let's say 3 months. If you have any dirt, any gossip, any claims, anything you want to make up...you've got 3 months to go public with it. Once the 3 month time limit passes, if you haven't brought your claim, you lose the right. In fact, let's set up heavy fines and/or jail time for anyone trying to pull shit right before the vote. Sound crazy? No crazier than the shit that's being released now.
Look, I'm not defending Trump. Not saying he did or didn't do any of the things he's accused of. But to bring this shit to light now is just laughable. It's beyond pathetic.
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"You see, these women, and the dozens, maybe hundreds more we're going to hear from every day for the next month are all filthy liars and are not to be trusted. Bill Clinton's accuser's though? They are pure!
That's going to be the talking point...they'll keep bring up Bill Clinton as their defense. Regardless of the fact that they're proving the point that Trump should not be the Commander in Chief.
Trump's going to eventually realize that running for President and having people dig into his past (though they don't really have to dig, they just let him continue blabbing his jaws and he tells on himself), is going to go just like a lot of his business investments, belly up and it's going to tarnish the Trump name. I'm guessing the family will have to go back to using the Drumpf name after all of the dust settles.
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VIDEO of Trump lustfully eyeing a 10 year old and saying "I'm going to be dating her in 10 years, can you believe it?"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-unearthed-footage-trump-says-of-10-year-old-i-am-going-to-be-dating-her-in-10-years/
"lustfully eyeing..."
:facepalm:
You're a raving lunatic. Please stop posting. Please. You're disgracing yourself.
If anybody is "falling right into her trap" it's you.
Jesus fucking Christ.
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And Hillary has countless people murdered. I don't have to defend myself here. Never, ever said I was a Trump guy. But every one of these people coming forward NOW? What a fucking joke. What a pathetic, laughable, horribly contrived joke this is.
Check this out. How about we create a new system? It's quite simple, actually. You set a deadline for anyone thinking of running for President to announce. Once they've announced, you set a time limit of oh, let's say 3 months. If you have any dirt, any gossip, any claims, anything you want to make up...you've got 3 months to go public with it. Once the 3 month time limit passes, if you haven't brought your claim, you lose the right. In fact, let's set up heavy fines and/or jail time for anyone trying to pull shit right before the vote. Sound crazy? No crazier than the shit that's being released now.
Look, I'm not defending Trump. Not saying he did or didn't do any of the things he's accused of. But to bring this shit to light now is just laughable. It's beyond pathetic.
You do realize that one woman came forward a while back and everyone said exactly what you're saying, that she's making it all up. This was before last Friday reveal of Trump stating how he sexually assaults women, which was fairly close to what that woman claimed he did to her.
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And Hillary has countless people murdered. I don't have to defend myself here. Never, ever said I was a Trump guy. But every one of these people coming forward NOW? What a fucking joke. What a pathetic, laughable, horribly contrived joke this is.
Check this out. How about we create a new system? It's quite simple, actually. You set a deadline for anyone thinking of running for President to announce. Once they've announced, you set a time limit of oh, let's say 3 months. If you have any dirt, any gossip, any claims, anything you want to make up...you've got 3 months to go public with it. Once the 3 month time limit passes, if you haven't brought your claim, you lose the right. In fact, let's set up heavy fines and/or jail time for anyone trying to pull shit right before the vote. Sound crazy? No crazier than the shit that's being released now.
Look, I'm not defending Trump. Not saying he did or didn't do any of the things he's accused of. But to bring this shit to light now is just laughable. It's beyond pathetic.
Come out and tell NBC Hillary diddled your peepee.
Seriously, do you think Cosby is innocent too? Walk me through how it's different. Walk me through how it's different from Bill Clinton for that matter.
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"lustfully eyeing..."
:facepalm:
You're a raving lunatic. Please stop posting. Please. You're disgracing yourself.
If anybody is "falling right into her trap" it's you.
Jesus fucking Christ.
^^^Didn't watch the video.
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"lustfully eyeing..."
:facepalm:
You're a raving lunatic. Please stop posting. Please. You're disgracing yourself.
If anybody is "falling right into her trap" it's you.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Welp there it is, that Trumpets sound...your a MORAN, YOU NEED BRIANS...roll tide.
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Again, for both Chad and Prowler. Reading is fundamental!!! I said, I am not defending the man. I said, I'm not saying he did or did not do it. I'm going to sit here and let that sink in for a second.
Okay, you got it? Or do you want to put more words in my mouth?
The point of my post, whether the accusations are against Trump or Hillary or Bill or Jeb or the Michelin Tire Man, you bring them when the shit happens. Not mere weeks before election night. It's a horrible, blatant smear tactic designed to sway the voters. If tomorrow's headlines read, "Newly Released Video Shows Hillary Clinton In Love Triangle With Putin And German Shepherd", I would :facepalm: and say the exact same thing. The issue is not that it happened or didn't happen. The timing is what's pathetic and again, laughable.
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^^^Didn't watch the video.
Did watch the goddammed video. Didn't watch it with a predisposition. Wasn't looking to crucify somebody.
You're seriously out of control on this. You're as hysterical as Rachel Maddow's dyke lover.
Think about this for a second Chiz. You're sweating up the sheets with Prowler here. If that doesn't tell you how far you've slid off the track? Medication. Get some.
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Still not midnight yet aaaand a fifth pageant contestant comes out.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/a-fifth-teen-beauty-queen-says-trump-visited-dressing-room
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Did watch the goddammed video. Didn't watch it with a predisposition. Wasn't looking to crucify somebody.
You're seriously out of control on this. You're as hysterical as Rachel Maddow's dyke lover.
Think about this for a second Chiz. You're sweating up the sheets with Prowler here. If that doesn't tell you how far you've slid off the track? Medication. Get some.
You tell me my 10 year old daughter's going to be your girlfriend in 10 years and you'll be shitting teeth for weeks.
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Still not midnight yet aaaand a fifth pageant contestant comes out.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/a-fifth-teen-beauty-queen-says-trump-visited-dressing-room
Aaaaannd why now?
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Again, for both Chad and Prowler. Reading is fundamental!!! I said, I am not defending the man. I said, I'm not saying he did or did not do it. I'm going to sit here and let that sink in for a second.
Okay, you got it? Or do you want to put more words in my mouth?
The point of my post, whether the accusations are against Trump or Hillary or Bill or Jeb or the Michelin Tire Man, you bring them when the shit happens. Not mere weeks before election night. It's a horrible, blatant smear tactic designed to sway the voters. If tomorrow's headlines read, "Newly Released Video Shows Hillary Clinton In Love Triangle With Putin And German Shepherd", I would :facepalm: and say the exact same thing. The issue is not that it happened or didn't happen. The timing is what's pathetic and again, laughable.
The timing, like you stated, can be set by a watch every four years. Hillary hasn't started leaking out what she knows...and she hasn't been lopping off anymore heads, when that happens, it will definitely get more interesting.
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Aaaaannd why now?
Threats, not really thinking about it being that big of an issue, because he's Trump and a Gazillionare, he can do what he wants "believe me"...and like it's usually the case, when one woman steps up to tell what happened to her, there's usually two or three more waiting to come forward too.
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Did watch the goddammed video. Didn't watch it with a predisposition. Wasn't looking to crucify somebody.
You're seriously out of control on this. You're as hysterical as Rachel Maddow's dyke lover.
Think about this for a second Chiz. You're sweating up the sheets with Prowler here. If that doesn't tell you how far you've slid off the track? Medication. Get some.
Sweating up the sheets? Because pointing out that Trump is a horrible, sack of shit, that's unfit to being a gentleman much less President of the US is a bad thing? You're a fucking dumbass sheep that you supposedly despise and I've been reading your posts less and less, because I'm starting to think Trump perfectly represents you.
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He's a sick and twisted piece of garbage...
The Trumpets to defend him coming in 3...2...1...
They are both so flawed. That's the issue. Politically she runs rings around him in corruption. And Trump was a typical 80s hustler.
Now that doesn't mean he doesn't care or would not do a decent job. But it will prevent people from voting for him. Much of the personal stuff about Trump is propaganda because of the timing and or not new news. We've all been around this guys exposure our entire lives. None of this is much a surprise to be honest.
None of the 3 parties put the best person up there. Period. And this sucks. Even Peterson should have been the Libertarian up there.
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They are both so flawed. That's the issue. Politically she runs rings around him in corruption. Trump was a typical 80s hustler. Now that doesn't mean he doesn't care or would do a decent job. But it will prevent people from voting for him.
None of the 3 parties put the best person up there. Period. And this sucks. Even Peterson should have been the Libertarian up there.
Yup. Giant Meteor 2016
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You tell me my 10 year old daughter's going to be your girlfriend in 10 years and you'll be shitting teeth for weeks.
A) Trump talks shit.
B) Was obviously joking about his ability to date younger women
C) I started to make a joke, but you're clearly so hysterical that it would have been lost on you so there's no point.
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Aaaaannd why now?
It's almost like the media is working with another presidential candidate, but we know that wouldn't happen, right?
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\I've been reading your posts less and less
I'll start using smaller words so you don't have to miss out.
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Yup. Giant Meteor 2016
In many of these leaked emails and speeches Hillary has said some pretty bigoted and discriminatory things.
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A) Trump talks shit.
B) Was obviously joking about his ability to date younger women
C) I started to make a joke, but you're clearly so hysterical that it would have been lost on you so there's no point.
I hark on context a lot on here. There is a reason why. It means everything. Tasteless what he said? Probably. Harmful, malicious or criminal? Probably not.
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Aaaaannd why now?
Wasn't it obvious when Anderson Cooper kept pressing him on it that they were just waiting for these people to come out with this "news"?
All of this unsubstantiated, unprovable, apocryphal "news."
Yeah, Trump groped an 80 year old hag on an airplane in 1971.
He also looked up Suzy Rottencrotch's skirt in third grade.
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I hark on context a lot on here. There is a reason why. It means everything. Tasteless what he said? Probably. Harmful, malicious or criminal? Probably not.
He says outrageous shit. He makes crude jokes. He's egotistical to the nth degree. He likes beautiful women and used his wealth and prestige to get close to them.
You're damn straight I can relate to that.
He's not "lustfully eyeing" ten year olds. Had nothing to do with the girl herself, only his ego and ability to attract women in their 20s.
But let's all shit teeth because Chizad is more incensed over some meaningless offhand remark than he is over the trail of dead bodies in Clinton's wake and all the other egregious shit she's said in done in her miserable, corrupt, fraudulent life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ)
Hippie
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Think about this for a second Chiz. You're sweating up the sheets with Prowler here. If that doesn't tell you how far you've slid off the track? Medication. Get some.
OMG. He's nothing like prowler. He only posts facts!
Trump is not Herman Cain.
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=42568
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OMG. He's nothing like prowler. He only posts facts!
Most of the time he does. Even good posters get drawn in subjective gutter banter that you and Prowler usually start. :poke: Me included.
Kaos' "slid off the tracks" is a good way of putting it.
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Aaaaannd why now?
Aaaaand why did the Cosby stuff hit all at once?
There is a simple formula.
1) A catalyst. For Cosby it was Hannibal Buress's standup bit going viral. It embolded a couple of women to come out. For Donald, it was the video of him and Billy on the bus.
2) Once the dam breaks and a few women come out, more come out of the wood works. It happened with Cosby and it's happening with Trump. If you're a shitty person, you say it's because they're fame whores looking to get their 15 minutes. If you're a rational person, you understand that other people coming out about it makes it feel ok for these other women to come about it and lends legitimacy to their stories that otherwise might not have been quickly believed.
And by the way, let's not pretend there were no accusations prior to the video.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit
https://www.yahoo.com/style/donald-trump-reportedly-treated-miss-000000927.html
If you think this wasn't an issue before and these stories sound at all out of character for him, you obviously weren't paying attention from the beginning when EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN tried to tell you he was a piece of shit human and that this type of digging the skeletons out of the closet en masse was inevitable.
We tried to tell you and you stubbornly cut off your nose to spite your face. Good job. The most winnable election for the GOP in history is now going to be the biggest landslide loss because of your hubris.
Serious question do you think that 100% of the women accusing Cosby of his transgressions were just making it all up? That Cosby is a completely innocent guy and just got railroaded? Why is this different? And for fuck's sake why is bill's handful of accusers, most of which have been thoroughly discredited, telling the Gospel but every one of these women are lying bimbos? Please explain.
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Wasn't it obvious when Anderson Cooper kept pressing him on it that they were just waiting for these people to come out with this "news"?
All of this unsubstantiated, unprovable, apocryphal "news."
Yeah, Trump groped an 80 year old hag on an airplane in 1971.
He also looked up Suzy Rottencrotch's skirt in third grade.
I will grant you this, and only this. NBC clearly held on to that tape until the exact moment that they calculated would cause the most damage. And they expected more to follow because DUH SHIT TRUMP IS A MISOGYNIST. My point is this was so telegraphed from the very beginning that only a retarded chimp or CCTAU couldn't see it coming.
He only got as far as he did without shit like this coming out sooner because Hillary COMMANDED the media legitimize him and take him seriously and the mindless sheep fell for it.
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In many of these leaked emails and speeches Hillary has said some pretty bigoted and discriminatory things.
Her aides did*
I'm not excusing some of those things, just sticking to facts because that's what I do.
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...And for fuck's sake why is bill's handful of accusers, most of which have been thoroughly discredited, telling the Gospel but every one of these women are lying bimbos? Please explain.
Clarify something for me. I may have misread here.
Are you saying that Bill Clinton only had a couple accusers and that they have mostly been discredited, or is it a different Bill that you are referring to ?
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Clarify something for me. I may have misread here.
Are you saying that Bill Clinton only had a couple accusers and that they have mostly been discredited, or is it a different Bill that you are referring to ?
Yes.
I'm counting Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Gennifer Flowers as possibly legitimate allegations on par, although still not proven in any legal sense.
Is that more than a handful? Who am I leaving out?
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Yes.
I'm counting Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Gennifer Flowers as possibly legitimate allegations on par, although still not proven in any legal sense.
Is that more than a handful? Who am I leaving out?
When one rape is not good enough....
If you are going to be outraged by Trump's "accusers", lets not forget ALL of Bill's:
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/every-clinton-sex-assault-victim/
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Yes.
I'm counting Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Gennifer Flowers as possibly legitimate allegations on par, although still not proven in any legal sense.
Is that more than a handful? Who am I leaving out?
Ehhhhh. We diverge here some. Bill is a slime ball. Legally proven or not he did heinous things to those women and used his power to make it go away.
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Charlie Daniels summed it up nicely to me....encouraged is the key word. They encourage this shit. All for ratings.
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Hippie
How's this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_zDEEQoHOw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_zDEEQoHOw)
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Her aides did*
I'm not excusing some of those things, just sticking to facts because that's what I do.
Check some of the Goldman Sachs speeches. "Bucket of losers"
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Ehhhhh. We diverge here some. Bill is a slime ball. Legally proven or not he did heinous things to those women and used his power to make it go away.
I'm not really saying otherwise.
I'm just saying to simultaneously think that those women are telling the Gospel truth, but the droves of Trump's accusers are lying bimbos is hypocritical as shit.
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I'm not really saying otherwise.
I'm just saying to simultaneously think that those women are telling the Gospel truth, but the droves of Trump's accusers are lying bimbos is hypocritical as shit.
Bwaaahaaahhaaa.
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This thread is enough to make me start cutting again.
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Bwaaahaaahhaaa.
More women came out accusing Trump yesterday than have accused Bill over the course of decades.
You are a stupid person.
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Check some of the Goldman Sachs speeches. "Bucket of losers"
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-calls-voters-bucket-of-losers/
False.
The news sources you guys trust and rely on rot your brain.
It's literally the first thing that comes up when you try googling it to even try to show an ounce of skepticism.
http://bfy.tw/8AlT
I actually did read the Goldman Sachs emails. I wish she would speak like that publicly. If what she said in that speech is her actual policy, sign me up. It makes her the viable libertarian in the race, if anything.
My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.
That is some Ron Paul/Gary Johnson shit right there. This is what she says when she's on the bus with Billy Bush. She's gonna grab free trade by the pussy.
She was also complimentary of Wall Street saying she had "great relations" with them and "a lot of respect for the work you do and the people do it."
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exactly what you're saying, that she's making it all up.
Look, I'm not defending Trump. Not saying he did or didn't do any of the things he's accused of.
(https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/2014/11/rif-logo-blue-large.png)
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More women came out accusing Trump yesterday than have accused Bill over the course of decades.
You are a stupid person.
You mean the ones where the other 14 said Trump was not even in the room?
You are a prowler...
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You mean the ones where the other 14 said Trump was not even in the room?
You are a prowler...
Link?
Is that from a meme? Or from LibrulBetaCucksWatch.net.biz?
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I'm done with this thread and the hysterical shrieking putzes here.
Sexual assault my fucking ass. By today's terms everything is sexual assault.
Yeah. 90% or more of the shit on Trump is made up. He's a rich guy with a big ego. He likes to brag. He's had young hot women throw themselves at him for decades. He liked it. He liked other men being jealous of his success and magnetism.
SO FUCKING WHAT?
Maybe you weren't alive in the 80s. Things were diffeeent.
Applying today's bullshit "sexual assault" standards is asinine. It's like trying me for a hate crime
Because I beat the shit out of james Hughes in the eighth grade.
Fuck you sissy pants fucks. You're what's wrong with this country.
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I'm done with this thread and the hysterical shrieking putzes here.
Sexual assault my fucking ass. By today's terms everything is sexual assault.
Yeah. 90% or more of the shit on Trump is made up. He's a rich guy with a big ego. He likes to brag. He's had young hot women throw themselves at him for decades. He liked it. He liked other men being jealous of his success and magnetism.
SO FUCKING WHAT?
Maybe you weren't alive in the 80s. Things were diffeeent.
Applying today's bullshit "sexual assault" standards is asinine. It's like trying me for a hate crime
Because I beat the shit out of james Hughes in the eighth grade.
Fuck you sissy pants fucks. You're what's wrong with this country.
Remember, I'm the one shrieking in this thread.
Weird that you ONLY feel this way about accusations against Trump, and feel completely opposite about accusations against Bill.
That's because you're a huge hypocrite. The end.
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Remember, I'm the one shrieking in this thread.
Finally. A fact.
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Remember, I'm the one shrieking in this thread.
Weird that you ONLY feel this way about accusations against Trump, and feel completely opposite about accusations against Bill.
That's because you're a huge hypocrite. The end.
You're shrieking because you have thrown out NO proof. Just some accusations. You are part of the crowd that if you throw out a few accusations, you think you can bring a guy down. Trump is no Herman Cain. Its not working. The media (and people like you) have been so full of histrionics, that nobody believes it. The polls are pretty much a dead heat. And like someone mentioned, there are a lot of people who will be voting for Trump and just not saying anything about it. Most realize that he is heads and shoulders above her and Bill. Because lets face it, he is part of this too.
So, shriek on girl. You got this!
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So, shriek on girl. You got this!
I don't think you should call his sexuality into play. That's just wrong, if you ask me.
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I don't think you should call his sexuality into play. That's just wrong, if you ask me.
sorry. I was just following the lead set before me many moons ago...
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You're shrieking because you have thrown out NO proof. Just some accusations. You are part of the crowd that if you throw out a few accusations, you think you can bring a guy down. Trump is no Herman Cain. Its not working. The media (and people like you) have been so full of histrionics, that nobody believes it. The polls are pretty much a dead heat. And like someone mentioned, there are a lot of people who will be voting for Trump and just not saying anything about it. Most realize that he is heads and shoulders above her and Bill. Because lets face it, he is part of this too.
So, shriek on girl. You got this!
:dead: Where is your proof that Bill's accusers have more legitimacy than any one of the litany (yes, the descriptor is apt) of Trump accusers? :dead:
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I don't think you should call his sexuality into play. That's just wrong, if you ask me.
I'm traumatized. I just witnessed chizad get verbally sexually pan trans assaulted!
I've made a copy of this. If you ever run for city council CCTAU your local NBC affiliates will release this screenshot two days before the election. Just in time for Wes, greasy weasel, rws and wiregrass to come and claim to be victims too. Wiregrass just to get on TV. RWS because I'll buy him bama tickets. The others just for kicks.
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I'm done with this thread and the hysterical shrieking putzes here.
Sexual assault my fucking ass. By today's terms everything is sexual assault.
Yeah. 90% or more of the shit on Trump is made up. He's a rich guy with a big ego. He likes to brag. He's had young hot women throw themselves at him for decades. He liked it. He liked other men being jealous of his success and magnetism.
SO FUCKING WHAT?
Maybe you weren't alive in the 80s. Things were diffeeent.
Applying today's bullshit "sexual assault" standards is asinine. It's like trying me for a hate crime
Because I beat the shit out of james Hughes in the eighth grade.
Fuck you sissy pants fucks. You're what's wrong with this country.
Calling someone sissy pants is taking it a little far, don't you think?
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:dead: Where is your proof that Bill's accusers have more legitimacy than any one of the litany (yes, the descriptor is apt) of Trump accusers? :dead:
Let's try this again.
Here are most of Bill's victims.many of them afraid to speak.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/every-clinton-sex-assault-victim/
Let's pay special attention to this one:
* Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.
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Let's try this again.
Here are most of Bill's victims.many of them afraid to speak.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/every-clinton-sex-assault-victim/
Let's pay special attention to this one:
You know that Trump has settled out if court on sexual harassment lawsuits too. Among his 4,000+ lawsuits, there were some that concerned sexual harassment.
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You know that Trump has settled out if court on sexual harassment lawsuits too. Among his 4,000+ lawsuits, there were some that concerned sexual harassment.
Where is your list? I got mine.
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"...I can basically do what I want, I just grab them by the pussy...I go into the dressing rooms of the pageants that I run." - Trump
"Nothing to see here, Bill Clinton actually raped women...Trump was just using locker room talk, no sexual assault happened." - Trumpets
"I was grabbed & grouped by Trump." Jill Harth
"Nothing to see here. Bill Clinton. She's just piling on 15 minutes of fame..." Trumpets
"Lawsuit against Trump was filed by Harth 20 years ago. Now women in his pageants have come forward to state that he did come into their dressing rooms." - Intelligent people
"Ain't no way he did any of them things...they are a bunch of liars. Bill Clinton." - Trumpets
"You keep proving our point. Trump is not fit to be Commander in Chief." - Intelligent people
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Where is your list? I got mine.
Jill Harth
http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/09/trumps-lawsuits-include-20-involving-allegations-mistreating-women-president-republican/91832012/
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Jill Harth
Try again. You failed to meet the requirements of the list of settlement victims.
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Where is your list? I got mine.
Do you not have google?
I seriously wonder how you can be so sheltered in your bubble of idiocy. I'm fascinated that you read the obvious complete and utter bullshit, or in the very least exaggerations of extreme bias, and just nod your head and go "YUP. THE END." without the slightest degree of skepticism. And then beyond that, to assume with confidence that you "sure showed him" by saying Trump doesn't have a similar, bigger list of accusers. It just shows how completely blind to facts you are that you don't even bother to look something like that up before you mouth off in here.
Here's your list, idiot.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/all-the-women-accusing-trump-of-rape-sexual-assault.html
Expect it to grow exponentially over the next month.
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Try again. You failed to meet the requirements of the list of settlement victims.
ONE of the women on your list...O-N-E settled.
Jill Harth, as Prowler was saying, filed a lawsuit. So they're already tied.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview
Such responses from the Trump camp aren’t new and neither is the lawsuit, which Harth brought forward in 1997. She dropped it weeks later after Trump settled an outstanding business lawsuit from her partner Houraney claiming he broke contract by backing out of the American Dream festival. (Houraney sued for $5m but settled with Trump for a smaller, undisclosed amount.)
The 13-year-old rape lawsuit is going to court for a third time.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-answer-teens-rape-accusat
And here are TWENTY more that Prowler was referring to.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/09/trumps-lawsuits-include-20-involving-allegations-mistreating-women-president-republican/91832012/
But an ongoing USA TODAY investigation of Trump’s 4,000-plus lawsuits shows that he and his companies have been accused for years of mistreating women. Allegations outlined in at least 20 separate lawsuits accuse Trump and managers at his companies of discriminating against women, ignoring sexual harassment complaints and even participating in the harassment themselves
Idiot.
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Do you not have google?
I seriously wonder how you can be so sheltered in your bubble of idiocy. I'm fascinated that you read the obvious complete and utter bullshit, or in the very least exaggerations of extreme bias, and just nod your head and go "YUP. THE END." without the slightest degree of skepticism. And then beyond that, to assume with confidence that you "sure showed him" by saying Trump doesn't have a similar, bigger list of accusers. It just shows how completely blind to facts you are that you don't even bother to look something like that up before you mouth off in here.
Here's your list, idiot.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/all-the-women-accusing-trump-of-rape-sexual-assault.html (http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/all-the-women-accusing-trump-of-rape-sexual-assault.html)
Expect it to grow exponentially over the next month.
Once again that little sissy attitude has you interjecting where little girls should not be.
The discussion was bout settlements. You know. Like the one that was quoted above.
So sissy pants, where is your google list on the sexual harassment settlements against Trump?
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Do you not have google?
I seriously wonder how you can be so sheltered in your bubble of idiocy. I'm fascinated that you read the obvious complete and utter bullshit, or in the very least exaggerations of extreme bias, and just nod your head and go "YUP. THE END." without the slightest degree of skepticism. And then beyond that, to assume with confidence that you "sure showed him" by saying Trump doesn't have a similar, bigger list of accusers. It just shows how completely blind to facts you are that you don't even bother to look something like that up before you mouth off in here.
Here's your list, idiot.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/all-the-women-accusing-trump-of-rape-sexual-assault.html
Expect it to grow exponentially over the next month.
I added all of Trump's lawsuits.
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Once again that little sissy attitude has you interjecting where little girls should not be.
The discussion was bout settlements. You know. Like the one that was quoted above.
So sissy pants, where is your google list on the sexual harassment settlements against Trump?
LOL.
One post late on that, idiot. Goddamn you are idiotic king idiot of the idiots.
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I added all of Trump's lawsuits.
I beat you to it.
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ONE of the women on your list...O-N-E settled.
Jill Harth, as Prowler was saying, filed a lawsuit. So they're already tied.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview)
The 13-year-old rape lawsuit is going to court for a third time.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-answer-teens-rape-accusat (https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-answer-teens-rape-accusat)
And here are TWENTY more that Prowler was referring to.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/09/trumps-lawsuits-include-20-involving-allegations-mistreating-women-president-republican/91832012/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/09/trumps-lawsuits-include-20-involving-allegations-mistreating-women-president-republican/91832012/)
Idiot.
You shrieked right into it again. Were those filed against Trump, or companies he owns?
Damn you are stupid. The O-N-E that was settled fro Clinton, was against Clinton, not Bill Clinton Enterprises. A PERSONAL settlement. That's a bit different that somebody claiming one of your supervisors was accused.
So once again sissy pants, where is your list?
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You shrieked right into it again. Were those filed against Trump, or companies he owns?
Damn you are stupid. The O-N-E that was settled fro Clinton, was against Clinton, not Bill Clinton Enterprises. A PERSONAL settlement. That's a bit different that somebody claiming one of your supervisors was accused.
So once again sissy pants, where is your list?
:facepalm:
I'll post the exact same quote, since you're and idiotic idiot who reads like an idiot. I'll idiot-proof it this time, sorry.
But an ongoing USA TODAY investigation of Trump’s 4,000-plus lawsuits shows that he and his companies have been accused for years of mistreating women. Allegations outlined in at least 20 separate lawsuits accuse Trump and managers at his companies of discriminating against women, ignoring sexual harassment complaints and even participating in the harassment themselves
If ONE, O-N-E of the 20 lawsuits are against him, and we know for sure Harth's is, and it is highly unlikely anyway that only O-N-E of the lawsuits against Trump industries are being levied against the man himself, as it is glaringly fucking obvious that he has a major problem with this.
Idiot.
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and we know for sure Harth's is, and it is highly unlikely anyway that only O-N-E of the lawsuits against Trump industries are being levied against the man himself, as it is glaringly fucking obvious that he has a major problem with this.
Idiot.
So Harth received a settlement from Trump? Please to be finding that on your googles...
And with a flurry of dainty little fingers, he is off into the googles....
Here is a reminder of what you are looking for:
* Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.
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:facepalm:
I'll post the exact same quote, since you're and idiotic idiot who reads like an idiot. I'll idiot-proof it this time, sorry.
If ONE, O-N-E of the 20 lawsuits are against him, and we know for sure Harth's is, and it is highly unlikely anyway that only O-N-E of the lawsuits against Trump industries are being levied against the man himself, as it is glaringly fucking obvious that he has a major problem with this.
Idiot.
Nope, nothing to see here...Bill Clinton.
Yet again, they fail to realize that they're making the point. They were screaming at how unfit Bill Clinton was to be President after the allegations came out...they're scrambling to "find the nugget in the turd" now that allegations have come out about Trump.
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Hippie
You rang?
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http://www.snopes.com/hillary-calls-voters-bucket-of-losers/
False.
The news sources you guys trust and rely on rot your brain.
It's literally the first thing that comes up when you try googling it to even try to show an ounce of skepticism.
http://bfy.tw/8AlT
I actually did read the Goldman Sachs emails. I wish she would speak like that publicly. If what she said in that speech is her actual policy, sign me up. It makes her the viable libertarian in the race, if anything.
That is some Ron Paul/Gary Johnson shit right there. This is what she says when she's on the bus with Billy Bush. She's gonna grab free trade by the pussy.
She was also complimentary of Wall Street saying she had "great relations" with them and "a lot of respect for the work you do and the people do it."
Foxnews and a couple of other ones reported it. If it was wrong then they fooled a lot of us. Not exactly a bottomfeeder or prowler source. That's how legit it looked.
Regardless I don't like how cozy she is with Wall Street. That's crony capitalism. Not true capitalism. And it's probably why she didn't want it being released during the primary. The left would have went apeshit at the time.
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Nope, nothing to see here...Bill Clinton.
Yet again, they fail to realize that they're making the point. They were screaming at how unfit Bill Clinton was to be President after the allegations came out...they're scrambling to "find the nugget in the turd" now that allegations have come out about Trump.
Bill Clinton did kind of bang someone in the White House. And lie about it under oath. And was impeached. Quit pretending he is some innocent patsy.
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Let's try this again.
Here are most of Bill's victims.many of them afraid to speak.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/every-clinton-sex-assault-victim/
Let's pay special attention to this one:
Yall keep forgetting about the willing one. The one he lied about. It's a pattern of behavior.
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Bill Clinton did kind of bang someone in the White House. And lie about it under oath. And was impeached. Quit pretending he is some innocent patsy.
I don't think Bill Clinton was fit to be President either. Feel the exact same way about the fat cry baby Trump, probably a little more so...because he is one of the elitist that is ruining this Country. His hillbilly, brown shirt, cult type followers are either too blind, too ignorant, or just don't care to see it.
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ONE of the women on your list...O-N-E settled.
Jill Harth, as Prowler was saying, filed a lawsuit. So they're already tied.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview
The 13-year-old rape lawsuit is going to court for a third time.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-answer-teens-rape-accusat
And here are TWENTY more that Prowler was referring to.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/09/trumps-lawsuits-include-20-involving-allegations-mistreating-women-president-republican/91832012/
Idiot.
You're a sheltered little naif.
If you make money and are around women, you're a target.
I'm small time business. I once fired a woman. I fired her in part because she was having an affair, fucking her side piece in the office and her husband showed up one day trying to start shit. After I fired her the boyfriend came up to the office and made a bunch of threats. Had him arrested. She tried to sue claiming that I and another employee had made advances toward her, created a hostile environment by making dick jokes and discriminated against her on promotions.
Nope. Nope. Nope.
First lawyer urged me to settle. Fired him. Second urged me to settle. No. Canned him too. Found one who'd fight it. She eventually withdrew when she realized I wasn't gonna roll over and take it.
At this other place I worked this bitch talked for two months to me and this other guy about the boob job she was gonna get. She'd slide up and down my office doorframe like it was a stripper pole and talk about how hot she was gonna be. So she gets the boob job, comes back to work and runs into him first. He says "looks good". EXACT words. She slaps him and the company with a sexual assault suit because he made her feel objectified. He got fired. The company settled. If I'd seen her first I'd probably have said "sweet tits".
All this shit on trump? It's garbage. Orchestrated by the most corrupt political machine in the history of humanity. But keep on buying the shit they shovel.
Is Trump an ogre? Probably. Is he crude toward women? I figure he is.
He grew up in the 80s. Things were different then. He's never raped anybody, he's never covered for a rapist, he's never tried to destroy women in an effort to protect his spouse. He is what he is. And he's not an evil conniving bitch.
So once again, let me state for the record. No matter what he's allegedly done or said? Donald Trump is a better option than her.
But you go right the fucko on ahead ignoring the egregious mound of shit stacked up around her while your outrage is diverted to meaningless accusations, fraudulent attacks and bogus allegations.
Who's falling into the fucking trap? It's sure as fuck not me. I see what they're doing. You're the one in here crapping the old slacks over this stuff and calling those of us who just don't care all manner of derogatory names.
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What makes this fucking hilarious...Trump's campaign officials wanted to look into his past when he decided to run. He shut them down. Trump's second campaign manager wanted to look into his past too...Trump, again, shut him down. So, all of this is new to the Trump campaign, they were all kinda caught off guard and now they're scrambling...what a fucking dumbass, just like his brown shirts.
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What makes this fucking hilarious...Trump's campaign officials wanted to look into his past when he decided to run. He shut them down. Trump's second campaign manager wanted to look into his past too...Trump, again, shut him down. So, all of this is new to the Trump campaign, they were all kinda caught off guard and now they're scrambling...what a fucking dumbass, just like his brown shirts.
Dude, I respect you as a person. I think you're an okay guy. If I drank beer I'd have one with you. I'd buy you one regardless.
But on this stuff? You're a fucking loon. I say that with all the kindness and compassion I can muster.
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Dude, I respect you as a person. I think you're an okay guy. If I drank beer I'd have one with you. I'd buy you one regardless.
But on this stuff? You're a fucking loon. I say that with all the kindness and compassion I can muster.
He's speaking the truth. That happened.
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You're a sheltered little naif.
If you make money and are around women, you're a target.
I'm small time business. I once fired a woman. I fired her in part because she was having an affair, fucking her side piece in the office and her husband showed up one day trying to start shit. After I fired her the boyfriend came up to the office and made a bunch of threats. Had him arrested. She tried to sue claiming that I and another employee had made advances toward her, created a hostile environment by making dick jokes and discriminated against her on promotions.
Nope. Nope. Nope.
First lawyer urged me to settle. Fired him. Second urged me to settle. No. Canned him too. Found one who'd fight it. She eventually withdrew when she realized I wasn't gonna roll over and take it.
At this other place I worked this bitch talked for two months to me and this other guy about the boob job she was gonna get. She'd slide up and down my office doorframe like it was a stripper pole and talk about how hot she was gonna be. So she gets the boob job, comes back to work and runs into him first. He says "looks good". EXACT words. She slaps him and the company with a sexual assault suit because he made her feel objectified. He got fired. The company settled. If I'd seen her first I'd probably have said "sweet tits".
All this shit on trump? It's garbage. Orchestrated by the most corrupt political machine in the history of humanity. But keep on buying the shit they shovel.
Is Trump an ogre? Probably. Is he crude toward women? I figure he is.
He grew up in the 80s. Things were different then. He's never raped anybody, he's never covered for a rapist, he's never tried to destroy women in an effort to protect his spouse. He is what he is. And he's not an evil conniving bitch.
So once again, let me state for the record. No matter what he's allegedly done or said? Donald Trump is a better option than her.
But you go right the fucko on ahead ignoring the egregious mound of shit stacked up around her while your outrage is diverted to meaningless accusations, fraudulent attacks and bogus allegations.
Who's falling into the fucking trap? It's sure as fuck not me. I see what they're doing. You're the one in here crapping the old slacks over this stuff and calling those of us who just don't care all manner of derogatory names.
There it is. You're just like your moron presidential candidate. Keep trying to wash it off...Trump's stench is going to get worse. There will be more women that come forward about Trump.
Think it's still just locker room talk? Nope, it and more have allegedly happened. You even hear him talking about a 10 year old girl, stating that he'll be dating her in 10 years...for the learning impaired, that means he was looking at that 10 year old girl in a God Damn paedophile type manner. But yet, you just meh that too.
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Dude, I respect you as a person. I think you're an okay guy. If I drank beer I'd have one with you. I'd buy you one regardless.
But on this stuff? You're a fucking loon. I say that with all the kindness and compassion I can muster.
You should probably do more research...just saying.
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71 pages in. It reads exactly the same as page 2..page 12....page 27...page 41.....
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He grew up in the 80s.
:huh:
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You even hear him talking about a 10 year old girl, stating that he'll be dating her in 10 years...for the learning impaired, that means he was looking at that 10 year old girl in a God Damn paedophile type manner. But yet, you just meh that too.
No. Not what that meant at all.
You've never been a wealthy, attractive or powerful man. You wouldn't understand.
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No. Not what that meant at all.
You've never been a wealthy, attractive or powerful man. You wouldn't understand.
You've obviously never seen Prowler naked.
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You've obviously never seen Prowler naked.
I have and let me tell you....wait.....what were we talking about?
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They speak the truth...beeeelieve me, okay, believe me...Yuuuuuuuuge. Believe me.
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Dude, I respect you as a person. I think you're an okay guy. If I drank beer I'd have one with you. I'd buy you one regardless.
But on this stuff? You're a fucking loon. I say that with all the kindness and compassion I can muster.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/10/13/donald-trump-barred-campaign-from-researching-his-past-report.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
#Boom
#TrumpetsSameClothAsBammers
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/10/13/donald-trump-barred-campaign-from-researching-his-past-report.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us (https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/10/13/donald-trump-barred-campaign-from-researching-his-past-report.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us)
#Boom
#TrumpetsSameClothAsBammers
THAT'S your smoking gun? Somebody somewhere said it, so it must be fact. Jesus, journalism has gone to shit!
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THAT'S your smoking gun? Somebody somewhere said it, so it must be fact. Jesus, journalism has gone to shit!
"Somebody somewhere", you misspelled Trump's early advisors Roger Stone & Micheal Cohen, his first, then his second & now his third campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, Paul Manafort, & Kellyanne Conway respectively.
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"Somebody somewhere", you misspelled Trump's early advisors Roger Stone & Micheal Cohen, his first, then his second & now his third campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, Paul Manafort, & Kellyanne Conway respectively.
You really aren't bright. That article said "according to sources". Unnamed sources.
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You really aren't bright. That article said "according to sources". Unnamed sources.
It also came from CNBC.
Crackers and @%@#% Blowing Clintons
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I wanna marry this girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI08BKgT8MI
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No. Not what that meant at all.
You've never been a wealthy, attractive or powerful man. You wouldn't understand.
Please, Richie Rich, translate into Poor-ese how him talking to a 10 year old girl with "You going up the escalator?" "Yea" "I'm going to be dating her in 10 years can you believe it?" and then watches her as she ascends up the escalator is saying anything but he wants to fuck that kid when the time is right. Apparently when you're rich, not only do you get to grab 'em by the pussy, words don't mean what they mean anymore.
:facepalm:
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I don't think Bill Clinton was fit to be President either. Feel the exact same way about the fat cry baby Trump, probably a little more so...because he is one of the elitist that is ruining this Country. His hillbilly, brown shirt, cult type followers are either too blind, too ignorant, or just don't care to see it.
I get that. In no way defending some of his comments although I do think it's a lot of yellow journalism. Was more making reference to how Bills incidents have gotten downplayed in recent days. Like I said, trump is what he is. As K mentioned he's a product of the 80s. The days of cocaine, women and making money. He's an 80s hustler ala Hefner. Not my style but this is nothing new with trump. It also doesn't take away from the corruption of the Clintons.
Prowler, did you see some of the speeches Chad was talking about to Goldman Sachs? I would think as a Bernie guy it would be appaling how tight she is with Wall Street and the big banks.
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Please, Richie Rich, translate into Poor-ese how him talking to a 10 year old girl with "You going up the escalator?" "Yea" "I'm going to be dating her in 10 years can you believe it?" and then watches her as she ascends up the escalator is saying anything but he wants to fuck that kid when the time is right. Apparently when you're rich, not only do you get to grab 'em by the pussy, words don't mean what they mean anymore.
:facepalm:
Your pants are too tight.
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THAT'S your smoking gun? Somebody somewhere said it, so it must be fact. Jesus, journalism has gone to shit!
It also came from CNBC.
Crackers and @%@#% Blowing Clintons
Ya, NBC has zero credibility. You can tell because you can make the letters stand for something else that makes it pro-Clinton. I read on rightwingheroes.thetruthisoutthere.cuck.clownpenis.fart/faggotwatch the truth, which is that aliens invaded all of the major networks and took over the bodies of these lamestream media members, and then Hillary used her black magic satanic powers that she acquired from Anton LaVey when she took over the Church of Satan from him back when her husband was president to make them do her bidding.
Seriously, the idiocy from this is depressing. First of all the CNBC link is to an NBC News story that cites Bloomberg's sources. Why is it so hard for you retards to follow sources and have any ability to discern their legitimacy. 90% of the idiotic trite you post is from idiotic right wing conspiracy blog and most of the time there is a Snopes article debunking the lunacy at the top of the google results. But NBC? Bloomberg? They're lying cucks that have no problem putting their reputation on the lime and just pull stuff out of their ass, inventing stories from whole cloth. I don't want to mince words. That is mental illness. You need help. You are bottomfeeder.
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Please, Richie Rich, translate into Poor-ese how him talking to a 10 year old girl with "You going up the escalator?" "Yea" "I'm going to be dating her in 10 years can you believe it?" and then watches her as she ascends up the escalator is saying anything but he wants to fuck that kid when the time is right. Apparently when you're rich, not only do you get to grab 'em by the pussy, words don't mean what they mean anymore.
:facepalm:
He did actually say "in 10 years"! He was in the modeling business. Its their job to see future beauty. But because he said she will grow up to be beautiful and someone I would date "IN TEN YEARS", you think he wanted to have sex with her then. YOU seem to be hung up on this pedophilia angel. Its a bit creepy. I think all of us know the difference between 10 and 20.
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Ya, NBC has zero credibility. You can tell because you can make the letters stand for something else that makes it pro-Clinton. I read on rightwingheroes.thetruthisoutthere.cuck.clownpenis.fart/faggotwatch the truth, which is that aliens invaded all of the major networks and took over the bodies of these lamestream media members, and then Hillary used her black magic satanic powers that she acquired from Anton LaVey when she took over the Church of Satan from him back when her husband was president to make them do her bidding.
Seriously, the idiocy from this is depressing. First of all the CNBC link is to an NBC News story that cites Bloomberg's sources. Why is it so hard for you retards to follow sources and have any ability to discern their legitimacy. 90% of the idiotic trite you post is from idiotic right wing conspiracy blog and most of the time there is a Snopes article debunking the lunacy at the top of the google results. But NBC? Bloomberg? They're lying cucks that have no problem putting their reputation on the lime and just pull stuff out of their ass, inventing stories from whole cloth. I don't want to mince words. That is mental illness. You need help. You are bottomfeeder.
You need a new pith helmet
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Ya, NBC has zero credibility. You can tell because you can make the letters stand for something else that makes it pro-Clinton. I read on rightwingheroes.thetruthisoutthere.cuck.clownpenis.fart/faggotwatch the truth, which is that aliens invaded all of the major networks and took over the bodies of these lamestream media members, and then Hillary used her black magic satanic powers that she acquired from Anton LaVey when she took over the Church of Satan from him back when her husband was president to make them do her bidding.
Seriously, the idiocy from this is depressing. First of all the CNBC link is to an NBC News story that cites Bloomberg's sources. Why is it so hard for you retards to follow sources and have any ability to discern their legitimacy. 90% of the idiotic trite you post is from idiotic right wing conspiracy blog and most of the time there is a Snopes article debunking the lunacy at the top of the google results. But NBC? Bloomberg? They're lying cucks that have no problem putting their reputation on the lime and just pull stuff out of their ass, inventing stories from whole cloth. I don't want to mince words. That is mental illness. You need help. You are bottomfeeder.
Those blogs give their name....
Snopes...LOL.
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Ya, NBC has zero credibility. You can tell because you can make the letters stand for something else that makes it pro-Clinton. I read on rightwingheroes.thetruthisoutthere.cuck.clownpenis.fart/faggotwatch the truth, which is that aliens invaded all of the major networks and took over the bodies of these lamestream media members, and then Hillary used her black magic satanic powers that she acquired from Anton LaVey when she took over the Church of Satan from him back when her husband was president to make them do her bidding.
Seriously, the idiocy from this is depressing. First of all the CNBC link is to an NBC News story that cites Bloomberg's sources. Why is it so hard for you retards to follow sources and have any ability to discern their legitimacy. 90% of the idiotic trite you post is from idiotic right wing conspiracy blog and most of the time there is a Snopes article debunking the lunacy at the top of the google results. But NBC? Bloomberg? They're lying cucks that have no problem putting their reputation on the lime and just pull stuff out of their ass, inventing stories from whole cloth. I don't want to mince words. That is mental illness. You need help. You are bottomfeeder.
I hate this election. I hate the whole thing. I hate what it's made this country.
I was watching a debate last night from Utah. Between Mike Lee (who I really like) and Misty Snow. As most know Senator Lee is a popular incumbent. And of course Snow is the challenger. She is a huge underdog. Like 80/20 type underdog.
It was interesting because Misty WAS a dude. Is now a chick. She/he was nice enough. She/he wasn't what I would call senate material but she garnered my respect in how she carried herself up there. Probably needs to stick to city council for now. But she was very respectful and very professional.
They both were extremely cordial to each other and even agreed on a few things. Where they disagreed it was all based on substance. The moderator was good. Both candidates followed the rules, answered the questions and stopped when their time was up. It was unreal. A classic debate on real things where the participants acted like human beings. Where has this been? That is how this is suppose to be done. This election and every debate in it has been a pure shit fest. And I hate it.
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He did actually say "in 10 years"! He was in the modeling business. Its their job to see future beauty. But because he said she will grow up to be beautiful and someone I would date "IN TEN YEARS"...
"No, no, no, he's looking at a 10 year old, and saying he wants to fuck her IN TEN YEARS, don't you get it? He recognizes her beauty now, but is gonna keep it in his pants until it's legally and culturally more acceptable to fuck her! Stupid cuck, don't you see how that's normal?!?"
You are gross. I would not let you anywhere near my children.
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"No, no, no, he's looking at a 10 year old, and saying he wants to fuck her IN TEN YEARS, don't you get it? He recognizes her beauty now, but is gonna keep it in his pants until it's legally and culturally more acceptable to fuck her! Stupid cuck, don't you see how that's normal?!?"
You are gross. I would not let you anywhere near my children.
You may have some issues you are working on. At least I hope you are working on them. That was a lot of CONJECTURE you added to the story.
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"No, no, no, he's looking at a 10 year old, and saying he wants to fuck her IN TEN YEARS, don't you get it? He recognizes her beauty now, but is gonna keep it in his pants until it's legally and culturally more acceptable to fuck her! Stupid cuck, don't you see how that's normal?!?"
You are gross. I would not let you anywhere near my children.
Your sombrero has a crooked brim
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This board and thread have become a microcosm now of the election and debates
:facepalm:
I think I give up. I don't even care anymore. I'd rather turn to the few decent congressmen and senators we have left and hope they can pick up a few of the pieces.
Screwed Either Way 2016
Why? Not because of who gets elected. But because of the damage its creating on the fabric of the country and its psyche.
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This board and thread have become a microcosm now of the election and debates
:facepalm:
I think I give up. I don't even care anymore. I'd rather turn to the few decent congressmen and senators we have left and hope they can pick up a few of the pieces.
Screwed Either Way 2016
Why? Not because of who gets elected. But because of the damage its creating on the fabric of the country and its psyche.
Whatev, cuck.
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Whatev, cuck.
exactly
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Kip Winger. She's only 17. Sexual assault. Lock him up.
Gene Simmons. Christine 16. Sexual predator. Prison!
Dr Hook ( or is it Dr John?). She was only 16. Creepy pedophile. Burn him at the stake.
Fucking idiots. Fucking sissified, over sensitive, hysterical, humorless pansy ass bitches.
Your forefathers are ashamed of your oozing vaginas.
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Kip Winger. She's only 17. Sexual assault. Lock him up.
Gene Simmons. Christine 16. Sexual predator. Prison!
Dr Hook ( or is it Dr John?). She was only 16. Creepy pedophile. Burn him at the stake.
Fucking idiots. Fucking sissified, over sensitive, hysterical, humorless pansy ass bitches.
Your forefathers are ashamed of your oozing vaginas.
Little girl on the escalator. 10. Prepubescent.
Super fucking gross to sexualize.
I can't believe the bounds your defense of Trump are apparently beyond normalizing pedophilia. You people are fucking sick.
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Kip Winger. She's only 17. Sexual assault. Lock him up.
Gene Simmons. Christine 16. Sexual predator. Prison!
Dr Hook ( or is it Dr John?). She was only 16. Creepy pedophile. Burn him at the stake.
Fucking idiots. Fucking sissified, over sensitive, hysterical, humorless pansy ass bitches.
Your forefathers are ashamed of your oozing vaginas.
Kip Winger's teeth were whiter than white.
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Little girl on the escalator. 10. Prepubescent.
Super fucking gross to sexualize.
I can't believe the bounds your defense of Trump are apparently beyond normalizing pedophilia. You people are fucking sick.
Just what do you mean by "you people"?
By the way, I'm going to be at the Arkansas x gate, if you finally want to square off.
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Kip Winger's teeth were whiter than white.
They're....white.
That was one pretty dude. He could have been a chick. I mean yeah, those white teeth. Breathtaking.
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Kip Winger. She's only 17. Sexual assault. Lock him up.
Gene Simmons. Christine 16. Sexual predator. Prison!
Dr Hook ( or is it Dr John?). She was only 16. Creepy pedophile. Burn him at the stake.
Fucking idiots. Fucking sissified, over sensitive, hysterical, humorless pansy ass bitches.
Your forefathers are ashamed of your oozing vaginas.
It's weird watching you go from "just not Hillary" to white knighting for this creep.
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Little girl on the escalator. 10. Prepubescent.
Super fucking gross to sexualize.
I can't believe the bounds your defense of Trump are apparently beyond normalizing pedophilia. You people are fucking sick.
Take off the hysteria glasses for one fucking second.
Nobody was "sexualizing" a ten year old. Well unless you count Calvin Klein ads,
Hollister ads etc.
The guy was bragging about his ability to score with young women. Joking that in ten years....
Oh whatever. Keep screaming Mimi.
I really thought you were more grounded than this. Thought you had the capacity to discern. You don't. You're just another millenial with a sense of entitled outrage. Shame.
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It's weird watching you go from "just not Hillary" to white knighting for this creep.
I've been pretty shocked at your turn as well. Just saying.
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Kip Winger's teeth were whiter than white.
We really have to bring race into this?
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It's weird watching you go from "just not Hillary" to white knighting for this creep.
Why really?
Because it's rigged. He's right. The media is an extension of her campaign. Bought and paid for. Because this is is an orchestrated campaign built on allegation and half truth designed to destroy him personally. To divert from her blatant corruption. To hide her real agenda.
She is the devil made flesh.
Since he is the only other option? I'm going to fight for him.
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Take off the hysteria glasses for one fucking second.
Nobody was "sexualizing" a ten year old. Well unless you count Calvin Klein ads,
Hollister ads etc.
The guy was bragging about his ability to score with young women. Joking that in ten years....
Oh whatever. Keep screaming Mimi.
I really thought you were more grounded than this. Thought you had the capacity to discern. You don't. You're just another millenial with a sense of entitled outrage. Shame.
You can read Kaos giving up on any actual defense for Trump and resorting to ad-hominem in real time in this post.
So if Trump wasn't sexualizing that 10 year old, and you weren't digging for justification of fucking 10 year olds to be socially normal, why did you post examples of song lyrics of men lusting after 16 and 17 year olds as if it's exactly the same thing? Just a total non-sequitur?
Stupid or liar? Liar.
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just another millenial with a sense of entitled outrage. Shame.
Thank God they are not all like that. I have one that would laugh at this one. But of course mine was not raised like a daughter. And he spent five years killing terrorist so that his fellow millennials could get their shriek on.
Apparently there is an issue there that needs to be resolved concerning the topic. I'm just going to drop it and move on to another topic so as not to cause undue shrieking and mental anguish.
TV Star Says ‘I’d Rather Be Grabbed By The P-SSY Than GOVERNED By One’
Katie Hopkins, former Apprentice UK contestant, now columnist, wrote a piece for the Daily Mail titled: ‘So Trump is (a very flawed) human – big deal. I’d rather be grabbed by the p**** than governed by one’. She starts by saying it is difficult to listen to, but it was Trump bragging. He was being the ‘Alpha Male of the Media Pack’.
The ‘mass hysteria’ that has followed isn’t to scale with the event itself.
People have said that his comments ‘condone’ sexual assault. So far, though, not one woman has come forward to say that he ‘grabbed them by the p****’. If that happens, then the outrage is justified.
Trump is flawed, (as we all are,) but many critics get on their high horse and condemn him for his words.
*cough*Anderson Cooper*cough*
Trump’s lewd talk offers ‘virtuous’ men the perfect platform to parade their feminist credentials.
John Oliver from Last Week Tonight slammed both Trump’s vulgar comments and the GOP’s lame reaction to them, calling Trump ‘one giant, salivating, dick-size-referencing, pussy-grabbing warthog in a red power tie’.
Sportsmen are falling over themselves to say their locker-room talk is nothing of the sort. That they never talk about women in this way…
…But for all the outrage and desertion I cannot say I am offended.
What he said was crude. But no worse than I heard on a train to work this morning, when two male managers were discussing their working trip to Vegas and their shared motto, ‘Never screw the payroll’, salivating over their memories of a woman who had indulged both of them, one laughing that ‘she was young enough to have been his daughter’, mentioning his child by name.
No worse than young women happily swiping right on Tinder, prostituting themselves for shared pleasure to a face on a screen — just bodies pleasing themselves, with only a side-swipe for permission.
Or politicians indulging themselves with rent boys, permission through payment; or Bill Clinton getting light relief from Monica in the Oval Office, permission through power.
Or the 74% of American men who would have an affair if they wouldn’t get caught, permission through secrecy.
Or the 1 in 5 Brits who say they have had an affair. Or those who go dogging in public toilets or are admitted to ER with an umbrella up their backside.
And certainly no worse than the Hillary-voting, smug rape-culture rappers who like to hang out at the Obama White House while peddling vile lyrics to kids that would make Trump blush.
And I am not concerned by any of this. If anything, I hope they all had a jolly good time.
These are people’s personal preferences. What any of us chooses to do in private is entirely our own affair. As I readily acknowledge, I have indulged in a few ‘preferences’ of my own.
But how can we harbor our own sticky secrets and sling mud at another?
How can we act shocked at a conversation about grabbing a woman without permission, when the very modern form of permission is money, power or a casual swipe right?…
…How casual we have become.And before you tell me, ‘Yes, but I am not running for President’ — neither was Donald. He was a businessman and reality TV show host when he had that private conversation in 2005.
The idea of standing for election wasn’t even a twinkle in his roving eye.
But he became a man so sick of the system and its failure to get things done that he decided to stand up for the little man.
To use his own money to fund his campaign. To try to give voice to those fed up with the Establishment telling them what to do, lining its own pockets all the while.
Donald Trump made it as the Republican candidate for President against all the odds. Because the average American shared his fatigue with politicians saying one thing and doing quite another, and was afraid of another four years of liberal politics losing control of immigration, the Supreme Court and the Second Amendment.
It will be a cruel irony if the very thing that sees Trump lose this election is that he has human flaws just like the rest of us.
If he fails, it will be he failed to be duplicitous enough to be part of the Establishment regular Americans simply cannot stand.
http://clashdaily.com/2016/10/lmao-tv-star-says-id-rather-grabbed-p-ssy-governed-one/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=exchange&utm_campaign=libertyupheld
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You can read Kaos giving up on any actual defense for Trump and resorting to ad-hominem in real time in this post.
So if Trump wasn't sexualizing that 10 year old, and you weren't digging for justification of fucking 10 year olds to be socially normal, why did you post examples of song lyrics of men lusting after 16 and 17 year olds as if it's exactly the same thing? Just a total non-sequitur?
Stupid or liar? Liar.
Ad hominem grits are pretty good. But the regular ones are still better to me. Just some salt pepper and a slab of butter and you are good to go.
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Trump having a speech in NC. Actually doing a good job. Then he did it. He's painted himself into a corner on these allegations. He says he doesnt know the women. Never seen them. They have no proof. He's fallen into the trap. He's playing checkers and they are playing chess. He just flat out denies know these women while I'm betting someone is holding a picture or another recording that is going to fucking kill him.
I'm going to mentally prepare myself for 8 years of Hillary.
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Trump having a speech in NC. Actually doing a good job. Then he did it. He's painted himself into a corner on these allegations. He says he doesnt know the women. Never seen them. They have no proof. He's fallen into the trap. He's playing checkers and they are playing chess. He just flat out denies know these women while I'm betting someone is holding a picture or another recording that is going to fucking kill him.
I'm going to mentally prepare myself for 8 years of Hillary.
Unfortunately in this case he is not a politician. A politician would have said I don't remember them. I meet a ton of people. I don't remember each one. And truthfully, talking to someone and having your picture taken with them does not necessarily mean you know the or remember them. He should make that clear.
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You can read Kaos giving up on any actual defense for Trump and resorting to ad-hominem in real time in this post.
So if Trump wasn't sexualizing that 10 year old, and you weren't digging for justification of fucking 10 year olds to be socially normal, why did you post examples of song lyrics of men lusting after 16 and 17 year olds as if it's exactly the same thing? Just a total non-sequitur?
Stupid or liar? Liar.
So, you've finally determined the answer! This stupid or liar thing was tough. It was like the chicken or the egg.
But let's ask you, now. And this may be harder to really come up with the truth but I believe that you can do it.
Gay or do you just like the taste of cock?
Gay or cock taste?
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Trump having a speech in NC. Actually doing a good job. Then he did it. He's painted himself into a corner on these allegations. He says he doesnt know the women. Never seen them. They have no proof. He's fallen into the trap. He's playing checkers and they are playing chess. He just flat out denies know these women while I'm betting someone is holding a picture or another recording that is going to fucking kill him.
I'm going to mentally prepare myself for 8 years of Hillary.
Yup.
My exact frustration with the guy.
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Trump having a speech in NC. Actually doing a good job. Then he did it. He's painted himself into a corner on these allegations. He says he doesnt know the women. Never seen them. They have no proof. He's fallen into the trap. He's playing checkers and they are playing chess. He just flat out denies know these women while I'm betting someone is holding a picture or another recording that is going to fucking kill him.
I'm going to mentally prepare myself for 8 years of Hillary.
"I don't recall" has been patented by the democrats and therefore not available for use.
I am hoping she is so bad they we survive the worst four years in American history. That's saying a lot after the last 8 under the CGIC. (Cock gobbler In charge)
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I can pretty much guarantee whoever the next president will be will only be there for four years and will universally be considered one of the worst presidents we've ever had.
Another reason for you not to vote for Trump.
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I can pretty much guarantee whoever the next president will be will only be there or four years and will universally be considered one of the worst presidents we've ever had.
Another reason for you not to vote for Trump.
I think we can survive his worse more so than hers.
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I think we can survive his worse more so than hers.
If he's the president you'll have to vote between him and Elizabeth Warren or something in 2020.
If she wins you can vote for an actual conservative.
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If he's the president you'll have to vote between him and Elizabeth Warren or something in 2020.
If she wins you can vote for an actual conservative.
I don't think there is one in Washington and none I see on the horizon. :facepalm:
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I'm just floored. Why can't he just stick to the real issues and shut the fuck up about the claims? Instead he just basically said he wouldn't have sexually assaulted them because they weren't up to his standards.
I've basically made my mind up, but if he comes out in the last debate and talks about anything other than how he plans to fix this country then he is dead to me.
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I'm just floored. Why can't he just stick to the real issues and shut the fuck up about the claims? Instead he just basically said he wouldn't have sexually assaulted them because they weren't up to his standards.
Nothing is shocking to me anymore. I knew this is who he was on day one. I tried to play Paul Revere, but no one was having it.
He doesn't want to be president. He wants to play spoiler for Hillary. And/or he wants to lose so he can build a news empire off of the support of his aggrieved followers. It was apparent from the jump.
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Nothing is shocking to me anymore. I knew this is who he was on day one. I tried to play Paul Revere, but no one was having it.
He doesn't want to be president. He wants to play spoiler for Hillary. And/or he wants to lose so he can build a news empire off of the support of his aggrieved followers. It was apparent from the jump.
Oh yeah. You're so much smarter and successful. You'd think we'd all listen.
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Nothing is shocking to me anymore. I knew this is who he was on day one. I tried to play Paul Revere, but no one was having it.
He doesn't want to be president. He wants to play spoiler for Hillary. And/or he wants to lose so he can build a news empire off of the support of his aggrieved followers. It was apparent from the jump.
He could have debated on facts, and at the end of every debate just basically said.
If you feel Washington is working for the common good of this country then Vote for Hillary. If you feel there needs to be wholesale changes then work with me. But no, he has to make everything about himself in the end. FUCK IT ALL. :facepalm:
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He could have debated on facts
No.
He couldn't.
That is the problem.
And it was from the beginning.
It was obvious.
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No.
He couldn't.
That is the problem.
And it was from the beginning.
It was obvious.
Why couldn't I see this! Oh, to be as smart as Chizzy
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Why couldn't I see this! Oh, to be as smart as Chizzy
That and instead of considering what I was saying, I was called a beta cuck faggot for 74 pages...
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No.
He couldn't.
That is the problem.
And it was from the beginning.
It was obvious.
He could have, just takes a little effort, some studying up, people to help you. I think your right, he is just doing this to have something different to do. He can't be that dumb?
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That and instead of considering what I was saying, I was called a beta cuck faggot for 74 pages...
What does your sexuality have to do with this?
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That and instead of considering what I was saying, I was called a beta cuck faggot for 74 pages...
I never called you a cuck, fag!
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That's the 3rd time recently I've seen "cuck". Please to be explain this.
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No.
He couldn't.
That is the problem.
And it was from the beginning.
It was obvious.
Little Marco. What a light weight. He's back stage sweating.
Ben Carson is low energy like Jeb. Did you read his book? What a child molestor type guy he is. Guy is a real socio path. Wait. He wants to support us now? Never mind. He's awesome.
Lyin Ted. Wow what a liar this guy is. Telling all my dirty secrets like that. Puts that bible down and starts "Lyin" again. Besides his dad killed jfk and his wife is a mental whore.
Dopey John Kasich. What is he like 1 for 35? What a dope.
Jeb. What a weak ass. He's even more low energy than Ben carsons crazy ass.
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You can read Kaos giving up on any actual defense for Trump and resorting to ad-hominem in real time in this post.
So if Trump wasn't sexualizing that 10 year old, and you weren't digging for justification of fucking 10 year olds to be socially normal, why did you post examples of song lyrics of men lusting after 16 and 17 year olds as if it's exactly the same thing? Just a total non-sequitur?
Stupid or liar? Liar.
Damn son.
As a clear example of your lunacy. You swung and missed.
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Is Trump lying here when Chris Mathews asked him if he would consider running for president?
http://fusion.net/story/357459/trump-1998-chris-matthews-interview-women/
TRUMP: People want me to all the time.
MATTHEWS: What about you?
TRUMP: I don’t like it.
MATTHEWS: Why?
TRUMP: Can you imagine how controversial I’d be? You think about [Bill Clinton] with the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?
The man himself said his history "with the women" is far far worse than Bill Clinton's.
Explain to me how that's not actually true but also he's not a liar.
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Is Trump lying here when Chris Mathews asked him if he would consider running for president?
http://fusion.net/story/357459/trump-1998-chris-matthews-interview-women/
TRUMP: People want me to all the time.
MATTHEWS: What about you?
TRUMP: I don’t like it.
MATTHEWS: Why?
TRUMP: Can you imagine how controversial I’d be? You think about [Bill Clinton] with the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?
The man himself said his history "with the women" is far far worse than Bill Clinton's.
Explain to me how that's not actually true but also he's not a liar.
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That's the 3rd time recently I've seen "cuck". Please to be explain this.
It's an abbreviation for cuckadoodledoo.
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It's an abbreviation for cuckadoodledoo.
Oooohhh....makes perfect....sense....yeah.
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That's the 3rd time recently I've seen "cuck". Please to be explain this.
A liberal vegetarian feminazi.
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House Speaker Paul Ryan might've just given the election to Hillary Clinton.
"If the GOP loses the Senate, a guy named Bernie Sanders becomes the Budget committee chair."
"...if Hillary wins, Bernie Sanders will play a big role in the National budget."
He either doesn't realize that Bernie still has A LOT of supporters that might not have thought about that possibility...or he did know and he doesn't want Trump.