At least he's not Hillary...

[Kaos]

I think it's best left said on here that there are several differing takes and opinions on things. Some just personal tastes and some based in some sort of facts. Regardless we all have different takes on it. I don't think anyone is going to change anyone else's mind on this stuff. So the subsequent pissing contests and diatribes with personal attacks are a bit fruitless. I try to put my take in there just as I see it but not so much trying to talk down to anyone or change their mind. I think there is a constructive way to do it but that's Just my .02.

That's been my only problem.  The arrogant, misinformed, derisive vitriol directed at all those so obviously ignorant that they'd consider voting for trump. It's insulting.  All its done is convince me that it's the right choice. 

TRUMP!!

[AUChizad]

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-14/bloomberg-politics-national-poll-june-2016


Two things:
1) Hillary is clobbering Trump by a huge 12% margin. That is not what these numbers normally look like 5 months before the election.
2) Gary Johnson's numbers continue to rise.

[AUChizad]

Actually 3 things.

The GOP won by 48% in 2012, 28% in 08, 46% in 04. Have gone GOP in every election since 1964.

Hillary & Trump are tied at 35% each with Gary Johnson pulling in 13%.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/3993058-155/poll-trumps-unpopularity-could-swing-utahns#sthash.MtNh50Gm.uxfs&st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/fXz7KOTlq5

Good luck winning the general if you can't win UTAH.

[Kaos]

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-14/bloomberg-politics-national-poll-june-2016


Two things:
1) Hillary is clobbering Trump by a huge 12% margin. That is not what these numbers normally look like 5 months before the election.
2) Gary Johnson's numbers continue to rise.

Too bad rhe election isn't today. 

Worthless. 

Other polls show different results. 

[Kaos]

Also?

Gary Johnson. 

[GH2001]

Too bad rhe election isn't today. 

Worthless. 

Other polls show different results.

The Bloomberg one looks like an extreme outlier compared to other ones. Esp Rcp and Rasmussen.

[CCTAU]

The Bloomberg one looks like an extreme outlier compared to other ones. Esp Rcp and Rasmussen.

They don't fit the "new" conservative narrative!

[Kaos]

They don't fit the "new" conservative narrative!

The purpose of some of these "polls" is to get Trump supporters to go "ah, fuck... we tried" and then stay away from the polls.

[AUChizad]

Support our troops!

[Kaos]

Support our troops!

You don't understand anything any more, do you? 

[AUChizad]

The Bloomberg one looks like an extreme outlier compared to other ones. Esp Rcp and Rasmussen.

Keep telling yourselves that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/15/negative-views-of-donald-trump-just-hit-a-new-high-7-in-10-americans/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/15/theres-no-equivalence-here-trump-is-far-more-disliked-than-clinton/

55% view Hillary unfavorable. Those are historically terrible numbers that would otherwise be huge news. Republicans could have put ANY ONE of the 16(!) other candidates that graced a debate stage for the primaries, and they would have walked away with this thing.

But instead you wanted Captain Retard to SHATTER all unfavorability records at 70 percent unfavorability. If you don't hate the man and think he's a slimy dipshit, you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty to see the forrest for the trees.

And it ain't gettin better. He still has 5 months to continue to top himself with asinine comment after asinine comment. This is the RCP poll you sited as starkly contrasting the Bloomberg one.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html


NO POLL including the right-leaning Rasmussen & Fox News polls have him ahead of Hillary.

Hilarious that every poll he's ahead in is Gospel/Science but when the same pollsters show him down it's some vast left-wing conspiracy where they're prolly just polling Mooslims & Mexicans.

[Kaos]

Keep telling yourselves that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/15/negative-views-of-donald-trump-just-hit-a-new-high-7-in-10-americans/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/15/theres-no-equivalence-here-trump-is-far-more-disliked-than-clinton/

55% view Hillary unfavorable. Those are historically terrible numbers that would otherwise be huge news. Republicans could have put ANY ONE of the 16(!) other candidates that graced a debate stage for the primaries, and they would have walked away with this thing.

But instead you wanted Captain Retard to SHATTER all unfavorability records at 70 percent unfavorability. If you don't hate the man and think he's a limy dipshit, you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty to see the forrest for the trees.

And it ain't gettin better. He still has 5 months to continue to top himself with asinine comment after asinine comment. This is the RCP poll you sited as starkly contrasting the Bloomberg one.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html


NO POLL including the right-leaning Rasmussen & Fox News polls have him ahead of Hillary.

Hilarious that every poll he's ahead in is Gospel/Science but when the same pollsters show him down it's some vast left-wing conspiracy where they're prolly just polling Mooslims & Mexicans.

Never thought you were an idiot before. 

Please stop causing me to doubt that. 

[AUChizad]

You don't understand anything any more, do you?

Explain it to me like I'm as dumb as Trump.

Explain to me how a guy who made millions screwing businesses with bankruptcies implying our troops are living well off of stolen Iraq money is a great virtue and an honorable thing to say. Explain how if Hillary made the exact same slanderous generalization at a campaign rally you would be nodding and applauding exactly the same way.

You have no principles. Only blind loyalty to your Führer.

[AUChizad]

Never thought you were an idiot before. 

Please stop causing me to doubt that.

ALL POLLS AND NUMBERS ARE FOR FAGGOTS!!! *


Except in the rare occasion they imply something positive for Trump.

[Snaggletiger]

Explain it to me like I'm as dumb as Trump.

Explain to me how a guy who made millions screwing businesses with bankruptcies implying our troops are living well off of stolen Iraq money is a great virtue and an honorable thing to say. Explain how if Hillary made the exact same slanderous generalization at a campaign rally you would be nodding and applauding exactly the same way.

You have no principles. Only blind loyalty to your Führer.

Master race, bitches.

[GH2001]

Keep telling yourselves that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/15/negative-views-of-donald-trump-just-hit-a-new-high-7-in-10-americans/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/15/theres-no-equivalence-here-trump-is-far-more-disliked-than-clinton/

55% view Hillary unfavorable. Those are historically terrible numbers that would otherwise be huge news. Republicans could have put ANY ONE of the 16(!) other candidates that graced a debate stage for the primaries, and they would have walked away with this thing.

But instead you wanted Captain Retard to SHATTER all unfavorability records at 70 percent unfavorability. If you don't hate the man and think he's a slimy dipshit, you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty to see the forrest for the trees.

And it ain't gettin better. He still has 5 months to continue to top himself with asinine comment after asinine comment. This is the RCP poll you sited as starkly contrasting the Bloomberg one.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html


NO POLL including the right-leaning Rasmussen & Fox News polls have him ahead of Hillary.

Hilarious that every poll he's ahead in is Gospel/Science but when the same pollsters show him down it's some vast left-wing conspiracy where they're prolly just polling Mooslims & Mexicans.

Dude. I just pointed out that the Bloomberg poll is an outlier compared to most of the other 56 polls that exist. No one said trump was winning in the others. No one said they all had him ahead. The others for the most part have him closer than the Bloomberg one. Rcp included at +5 for Hillary and the Rcp currently is higher for her than its been in a couple of months. It's ebb n flow. In statistical world the Bloomberg one is called an outlier. That's all. Quit making shit personal. I'm not your enemy.

[wesfau2]

you are the vast minority that is too brainwashed by blind party loyalty

I think this is the only part where you're off-base, Chad.  This isn't Republican party loyalty...this is Trump loyalty.

[GH2001]

I think this is the only part where you're off-base, Chad.  This isn't Republican party loyalty...this is Trump loyalty.

So the constant rhetorical screaming and demagoguing is cool though?

[wesfau2]

So the constant rhetorical screaming and demagoguing is cool though?

I think the "screaming" is due to Chad's frustration with Kaos acknowledging neither his own arguments nor the factual refutation of those arguments.  It's typical K debate strategy, and very frustrating.

[WiregrassTiger]

Quit making shit personal. I'm not your enemy.

Would you say it's getting personal to question someone's sexuality and intellect? Calling them names (homo, bitch, sissy, dumbass, etc.) and literally hating them while attempting to expedite having them banned from the site, again?

I certainly hope that it is.