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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on October 14, 2012, 02:05:35 PM
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Willie Taggart - Western Kentucky
Young. Energetic. 36 years old.
Harbaugh connection.
Took Western Kentucky from 2-10 to 7-5 to now 5-1.
Ebony skinned. The media likes that sort of thing.
Charlie Strong - Louisville
Mid-aged for a head coach.
Excellent track record as a defensive coordinator.
Took Louisville from 3-4 conference record to 5-2 conference record to this year's 6-0 overall record.
Experience in the SEC.
Ebony skinned. The media likes that sort of thing.
Mark Hudspeth - LA Monroe
Younger.
A proven winner at North Alabama and now at LA Monroe. Beat Arkansas and nearly beat Auburn.
In previous 8 seasons, only three did not feature double digit wins.
Caucasian. Auburn likes that sort of thing.
Mike Gundy - Oklahoma State
Definitely a different personality for the SEC.
A proven winner. Consistently good offense. Rather poor defense.
A man. He's 45.
Has not won less than 9 games since 2008.
Caucasian. Spikey hair.
Unrealistic options:
Chris Petersen - He loves it in Boise. He is not going to leave.
Gary Patterson - Again, loves it where he is. Has shown no desire over the years to leave TCU.
Art Briles - A Texas guy and besides, he doesn't have much to show without RGIII as his quarterback.
Paul Rhoades - Maybe he would come to Auburn, but I have a feeling he has no desire to clean up another Gene Chizik mess nor would he want to deal with our bullshit in the adminstration office.
Chip Kelly - It would cost too much money, and why would he leave one of the easiest gigs in college football?
Notes:
Texas is more than likely coming open after this year. To think that we'll land the #1 available head coach after firing a head coach two years removed from a BCS championship is looney-talk. We'll have to get someone that we feel is a reliable coach that can build the program into something respectable.
Gruden, Cowher, Rex Ryan, etc - please don't even think about those names. For one, they aren't dropping down to the college ranks. Two, why would you want them? They want to run a complicated, NFL system that wins. They want to get any player they want that can help them win. I wouldn't trust them one second to not go out and blatantly pay for players nor would I expect them to be able to relate to college kids and their parents.
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Willie Taggart - Western Kentucky
Young. Energetic. 36 years old.
Harbaugh connection.
Took Western Kentucky from 2-10 to 7-5 to now 5-1.
Ebony skinned. The media likes that sort of thing.
Charlie Strong - Louisville
Mid-aged for a head coach.
Excellent track record as a defensive coordinator.
Took Louisville from 3-4 conference record to 5-2 conference record to this year's 6-0 overall record.
Experience in the SEC.
Ebony skinned. The media likes that sort of thing.
Mark Hudspeth - LA Monroe
Younger.
A proven winner at North Alabama and now at LA Monroe. Beat Arkansas and nearly beat Auburn.
In previous 8 seasons, only three did not feature double digit wins.
Caucasian. Auburn likes that sort of thing.
Mike Gundy - Oklahoma State
Definitely a different personality for the SEC.
A proven winner. Consistently good offense. Rather poor defense.
A man. He's 45.
Has not won less than 9 games since 2008.
Caucasian. Spikey hair.
Unrealistic options:
Chris Petersen - He loves it in Boise. He is not going to leave.
Gary Patterson - Again, loves it where he is. Has shown no desire over the years to leave TCU.
Art Briles - A Texas guy and besides, he doesn't have much to show without RGIII as his quarterback.
Paul Rhoades - Maybe he would come to Auburn, but I have a feeling he has no desire to clean up another Gene Chizik mess nor would he want to deal with our bullshit in the adminstration office.
Chip Kelly - It would cost too much money, and why would he leave one of the easiest gigs in college football?
Notes:
Texas is more than likely coming open after this year. To think that we'll land the #1 available head coach after firing a head coach two years removed from a BCS championship is looney-talk. We'll have to get someone that we feel is a reliable coach that can build the program into something respectable.
Gruden, Cowher, Rex Ryan, etc - please don't even think about those names. For one, they aren't dropping down to the college ranks. Two, why would you want them? They want to run a complicated, NFL system that wins. They want to get any player they want that can help them win. I wouldn't trust them one second to not go out and blatantly pay for players nor would I expect them to be able to relate to college kids and their parents.
Paul Rhoades would come in a heartbeat. Other than not having an SEC QB, there's no mess to clean up here, the players just need coaching.
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Paul Rhoades would come in a heartbeat. Other than not having an SEC QB, there's no mess to clean up here, the players just need coaching.
Agree. And after hearing his locker room speeches, I'd take him in a min
No offense ths, but that was one of the more flawed writings I've seen from you - From the not so funny race references to the reasoning beside every coach.
The mess we have is the staff and AD. The cupboard isn't lacking.
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Add Larry Fedora to your list too. He was 34-19 in 4 years at USM, and is 5-2 this year at NC. Has a good range of experience with stops at Baylor, Air Force, Florida, and Okie State.
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Do not want Petersen, do not want (no-way-in-hell) Kelly
Remember after Tubs replaced his first pair of coordinators after '01, Chizik took the DC spot after the first guy re-considered and stayed-put at Pitt. That first guy? Paul Rhoads
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Agree. And after hearing his locker room speeches, I'd take him in a min
No offense ths, but that was one of the more flawed writings I've seen from you - From the not so funny race references to the reasoning beside every coach.
The mess we have is the staff and AD. The cupboard isn't lacking.
Not to mention bad information. Hudspeth is the coach at Louisiana Lafayette, not ULM, though THS got the info on his record correct. Todd Berry is the HC at ULM.
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No offense ths, but that was one of the more flawed writings I've seen from you - From the not so funny race references to the reasoning beside every coach.
In other words, his grade for your essay = F
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Agree. And after hearing his locker room speeches, I'd take him in a min
No offense ths, but that was one of the more flawed writings I've seen from you - From the not so funny race references to the reasoning beside every coach.
The mess we have is the staff and AD. The cupboard isn't lacking.
Fuck off. The post wasn't meant to be funny or entertaining for you or anyone else. You all want to jerk off to big name coaching candidates? Go ahead. Splooge all over your computer screen. Keep it off mine though. It's been clean since this cluster fuck started last year.
And some of you don't think this is a mess? Haaaaaaaaaaa. That's comedy. This is historically one of if not the worst auburn team in history. It's not just a quarterback. It's an ineptitude across the entire program starting with whatever dumbfuck hired jay Jacobs. It's at least a two year rebuilding job if we hire someone decent.
And Paul Rhoades would as quickly come to auburn as he would Texas tech to be tuberville's dc.
And sue me for typing Monroe instead of Lafayette.
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Fuck off. The post wasn't meant to be funny or entertaining for you or anyone else. You all want to jerk off to big name coaching candidates? Go ahead. Splooge all over your computer screen. Keep it off mine though. It's been clean since this cluster fuck started last year.
And some of you don't think this is a mess? Haaaaaaaaaaa. That's comedy. This is historically one of if not the worst auburn team in history. It's not just a quarterback. It's an ineptitude across the entire program starting with whatever dumbfuck hired jay Jacobs. It's at least a two year rebuilding job if we hire someone decent.
And Paul Rhoades would as quickly come to auburn as he would Texas tech to be tuberville's dc.
And sue me for typing Monroe instead of Lafayette.
You didn't just type Monroe instead of Lafayette, you said he'd beaten Ark. and almost beaten Auburn. He's played neither this year.
Yes, this team is a mess, but it's not like the mess of 1998. We are not without players. We have players lacking coaching. We have an offense with no identity. We have no sense of urgency, or intensity. I'm betting that the right coach, and right system could make one of the 4 QBs (including the recruit out of Montgomery) a serviceable QB. Loeffler clearly can't do it and/or run an offense.
What the fuck do you know about what's in Paul Rhoads head, or what job he'd take...Prowler? If he's stupid enough to turn down Auburn to stay at ISU, then I damn sure don't want him anyway.
Get the sand out of your vagina Francis.
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I can get on the Charlie Strong bandwagon. I believe GF has already started a private fund and filled the Auburn jet gas tank in efforts to lure him to Auburn. I do believe, however, that Patterson would come
to Auburn for the right price.
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I can get on the Charlie Strong bandwagon. I believe GF has already started a private fund and filled the Auburn jet gas tank in efforts to lure him to Auburn. I do believe, however, that Patterson would come
to Auburn for the right price.
Hard for me to believe Patterson hasn't turned down offers on par with Auburn. Or, if not that, then there's a reason nobody's wanted him. Never heard anything bad about him. There's a reason (whatever it is) that a coach that's averaged just shy of 10 wins a year, is still at TCU, and my guess is he's comfortable there, and at 52 years of age, isn't wanting to suddenly drop in to the pressure cooker that is the SEC.
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Hard for me to believe Patterson hasn't turned down offers on par with Auburn. Or, if not that, then there's a reason nobody's wanted him. Never heard anything bad about him. There's a reason (whatever it is) that a coach that's averaged just shy of 10 wins a year, is still at TCU, and my guess is he's comfortable there, and at 52 years of age, isn't wanting to suddenly drop in to the pressure cooker that is the SEC.
That very well may be the case but a kid can dream.
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That very well may be the case but a kid can dream.
Don't worry, after they run through this Big 12 Conference Schedule this year, and drop 3 or 4, everyone will say "he can't coach big time football".
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What the fuck do you know about what's in Paul Rhoads head, or what job he'd take...Prowler? If he's stupid enough to turn down Auburn to stay at ISU, then I damn sure don't want him anyway.
A few things to think about on that.
A 6 win season at ISU is like a national championship to them. They're 4-2 right now, and they were competitive in their losses to #15 Kansas St and Texas Tech. They beat #15 TCU by two scores. PR has them on track. A 6 win season at Auburn is unacceptable. He may already know how fucked up the AD at Auburn is as well. Not saying he absolutely wouldn't bolt for AU if offered, but I'm not so sure that he would crawl over broken glass to try to put out a trailer fire either. He might know his limitations and might know that he wouldn't be overly successful either (not saying he wouldn't be; just saying hypothetically). Only he knows what he would do, and it may not be the slam dunk no brainer that you think it is. If Jacobs really is that much of a douche, I doubt Rhoads would be on Auburn's list anyway.
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A few things to think about on that.
A 6 win season at ISU is like a national championship to them. They're 4-2 right now, and they were competitive in their losses to #15 Kansas St and Texas Tech. They beat #15 TCU by two scores. PR has them on track. A 6 win season at Auburn is unacceptable. He may already know how fucked up the AD at Auburn is as well. Not saying he absolutely wouldn't bolt for AU if offered, but I'm not so sure that he would crawl over broken glass to try to put out a trailer fire either. He might know his limitations and might know that he wouldn't be overly successful either (not saying he wouldn't be; just saying hypothetically). Only he knows what he would do, and it may not be the slam dunk no brainer that you think it is. If Jacobs really is that much of a douche, I doubt Rhoads would be on Auburn's list anyway.
The guy is "winning" at a program that's had 1 coach with an overall winning record the last 50 years, and doing it for a hair over $1Mil a year. Auburn could get him for a song at $2.25Mil, and double his salary. Money talks, bullshit walks. If he wouldn't come, then he's either fucking stupid, or Auburn's "behind the scenes" is THAT fucked up, and I'm not discounting that possibility either. You don't take a job at ISU unless you hope to parlay it in to something better, so I'm guessing he has his eyes on a better gig.
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The guy is "winning" at a program that's had 1 coach with an overall winning record the last 50 years, and doing it for a hair over $1Mil a year. Auburn could get him for a song at $2.25Mil, and double his salary. Money talks, bullshit walks. If he wouldn't come, then he's either fucking stupid, or Auburn's "behind the scenes" is THAT fucked up, and I'm not discounting that possibility either. You don't take a job at ISU unless you hope to parlay it in to something better, so I'm guessing he has his eyes on a better gig.
I'm good with Rhodes, Patterson and Strong. And I haven't forgotten Jim Leavitt either. The guy can build a program from scratch into a winner and stuck it out there until that alleged striking incident of a player. He is currently the LB coach with the 49ers. I'm sure the stigma would be too much for some but I could handle a proven winner.
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The guy is "winning" at a program that's had 1 coach with an overall winning record the last 50 years, and doing it for a hair over $1Mil a year. Auburn could get him for a song at $2.25Mil, and double his salary. Money talks, bullshit walks. If he wouldn't come, then he's either fucking stupid, or Auburn's "behind the scenes" is THAT fucked up, and I'm not discounting that possibility either. You don't take a job at ISU unless you hope to parlay it in to something better, so I'm guessing he has his eyes on a better gig.
I guess the question is, if AU is going to spend the money on buying Chizik out, and they want to spend some money on a new HC and staff, is it smart to go after another Gene Chizik type? Unless they get a slam dunk no brainer (whether perceived as so or otherwise already proven), I think AU fans will be pretty pissed. The AD has proven that they can't pick out that under the radar type guy, and they know they can't make the wrong choice again. That's part of the reason I think that you guys will go after a top shelf type guy. Assuming that Jacobs realizes a change needs to be made in the first place, of course.
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I'm good with Rhodes, Patterson and Strong. And I haven't forgotten Jim Leavitt either. The guy can build a program from scratch into a winner and stuck it out there until that alleged striking incident of a player. He is currently the LB coach with the 49ers. I'm sure the stigma would be too much for some but I could handle a proven winner.
From the sounds of what goes on at Auburn practices, some of the current players need a Jim Leavitt
type around.
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I guess the question is, if AU is going to spend the money on buying Chizik out, and they want to spend some money on a new HC and staff, is it smart to go after another Gene Chizik type? Unless they get a slam dunk no brainer (whether perceived as so or otherwise already proven), I think AU fans will be pretty pissed. The AD has proven that they can't pick out that under the radar type guy, and they know they can't make the wrong choice again. That's part of the reason I think that you guys will go after a top shelf type guy. Assuming that Jacobs realizes a change needs to be made in the first place, of course.
Tell me who that "top shelf" guy is right now.
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To hell with Gruden and Cowher. My drean goes like this.....
1,000,000 Auburn fans donate $15 annually for a HC. JJ in turn boards a plane to San Francisco, finds Jim Harbaugh, opens up the suitcases with the 15 mil in it and says, "Coach you can either be a big fish in a pond full of big fish, or you can bring your ass back to college football, get your family out of this town full of homos and be known as the greatest football coach of all time who dominated the greatest conference of all time when it was at its peek. My suitcase and I are willing to wait till after your Superbowl win this year. Oh and one last thing coach, Nick Saban told me to tell you that you were a fag who was lucky enough to coach in a shit conference and you don't have the balls to compete in the SEC. War Eagle."
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From the sounds of what goes on at Auburn practices, some of the current players need a Jim Leavitt
type around.
#5 was safe from getting hit, until he cut his hair
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I guess the question is, if AU is going to spend the money on buying Chizik out, and they want to spend some money on a new HC and staff, is it smart to go after another Gene Chizik type? Unless they get a slam dunk no brainer (whether perceived as so or otherwise already proven), I think AU fans will be pretty pissed. The AD has proven that they can't pick out that under the radar type guy, and they know they can't make the wrong choice again. That's part of the reason I think that you guys will go after a top shelf type guy. Assuming that Jacobs realizes a change needs to be made in the first place, of course.
The loss in revenue from the anemic attendance at ONE game this season buys Chizik out.
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Agree. And after hearing his locker room speeches, I'd take him in a min
No offense ths, but that was one of the more flawed writings I've seen from you - From the not so funny race references to the reasoning beside every coach.
The mess we have is the staff and AD. The cupboard isn't lacking.
i know...he should have used "ivory".
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You didn't just type Monroe instead of Lafayette, you said he'd beaten Ark. and almost beaten Auburn. He's played neither this year.
Yes, this team is a mess, but it's not like the mess of 1998. We are not without players. We have players lacking coaching. We have an offense with no identity. We have no sense of urgency, or intensity. I'm betting that the right coach, and right system could make one of the 4 QBs (including the recruit out of Montgomery) a serviceable QB. Loeffler clearly can't do it and/or run an offense.
What the fuck do you know about what's in Paul Rhoads head, or what job he'd take...Prowler? If he's stupid enough to turn down Auburn to stay at ISU, then I damn sure don't want him anyway.
Get the sand out of your vagina Francis.
Rich coming from the guy who lectures everyone on here simply based on the fact that he's a pee wee assistant football coach.
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Publix has a pumpkin pie ice cream that is to die for! It's a seasonal flavor, which makes it extra nice.
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Tell me who that "top shelf" guy is right now.
This may not be the answer alot of folks want to hear, but if you open up the pocketbook and make it known that you're serious, you might be surprised. I'm not saying that you have to open it up to some dickhole. You don't have to sell your soul and take just anybody. Make sure he fits and all of that.
Even if you get a top shelf coach, there is no guarantee that he would be successful. But at this point you have to at least put a line out and see who bites.
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What I hear (skreetz) about Patterson is that his wife is a Dallas socialite and the TCU alum-base pooled their resources and gave him royalties to a shale reserve. Who knows if that's true, but it would explain his reluctance to leave TCU.
Strong would be a great choice. Not a home-run, but a solid hire who has rebuilt Kragthorpe's mess at UL and is regarded is a good recruiter.
The SunBelt guys (GM included) don't really blow my skirt up, but this isn't exactly a seller's market for coaches.
Chip Kelley can eat a dick. Do not want. Bad coach and worse human.
Holgerson and/or the Leach-tree flavor of the week can all pound sand.
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What I hear (skreetz) about Patterson is that his wife is a Dallas socialite and the TCU alum-base pooled their resources and gave him royalties to a shale reserve. Who knows if that's true, but it would explain his reluctance to leave TCU.
Strong would be a great choice. Not a home-run, but a solid hire who has rebuilt Kragthorpe's mess at UL and is regarded is a good recruiter.
The SunBelt guys (GM included) don't really blow my skirt up, but this isn't exactly a seller's market for coaches.
Chip Kelley can eat a dick. Do not want. Bad coach and worse human.
Holgerson and/or the Leach-tree flavor of the week can all pound sand.
Patterson is on wife #3.
One ESPN article from 2009 says he would be open to leave for the right job - the article mentioned TX, OK, NEB - but yes, it also says he has community roots. His son goes to TCU also, or was enrolled last year at least.
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Rich coming from the guy who lectures everyone on here simply based on the fact that he's a pee wee assistant football coach.
You've lost your touch. Gone completely Chizowler.
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You've lost your touch. Gone completely Chizowler.
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
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SERENITY NOW! SERENITY NOW!
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What is: Your mother sucks cock in hell, Alex.
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LOUD NOISES!
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I love Lamp.
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The Devil created this thread and controls everyone.
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The Devil created this thread and controls everyone.
Didn't know Lord Saybinz was on our board.
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The Devil created this thread and controls everyone.
DON'T YOU PUT THAT EVIL ON ME, RICKY BOBBY! DON'T YOU PUT THAT ON US!
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There are no realistic options. From the AD on down they would rather sink the football program then to admit they were wrong. We will most likely go into next year with this same staff and most likely have the same record again and then and only then will some changes be made, and of course this will be after losing the top recruits they we may have had.
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There are no realistic options. From the AD on down they would rather sink the football program then to admit they were wrong. We will most likely go into next year with this same staff and most likely have the same record again and then and only then will some changes be made, and of course this will be after losing the top recruits they we may have had.
That is Satan stealing the recruits... Get your facts straight. We don't lose them, they are stolen by the Dark Lord.
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That is Satan stealing the recruits... Get your facts straight. We don't lose them, they are stolen by the Dark Lord.
:muttley:
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There are no realistic options. From the AD on down they would rather sink the football program then to admit they were wrong. We will most likely go into next year with this same staff and most likely have the same record again and then and only then will some changes be made, and of course this will be after losing the top recruits they we may have had.
I don't think Scot Loeffler will be back. Based on the stuff Ove read from PMarshall about the spread,
I think Chizik may go back to that and get a coordinator to develop Frazier. unless they leave for other jobs, I expect to see the staff return largely intact. Guess we will just have to get All In.
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I don't think Scot Loeffler will be back. Based on the stuff Ove read from PMarshall about the spread,
I think Chizik may go back to that and get a coordinator to develop Frazier. unless they leave for other jobs, I expect to see the staff return largely intact. Guess we will just have to get All In.
If Chizik isn't fired, the repercussions will be huge.
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I don't think Scot Loeffler will be back. Based on the stuff Ove read from PMarshall about the spread,
I think Chizik may go back to that and get a coordinator to develop Frazier. unless they leave for other jobs, I expect to see the staff return largely intact. Guess we will just have to get All In.
Yea, we are gonna get it "All In"
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What I hear (skreetz) about Patterson is that his wife is a Dallas socialite and the TCU alum-base pooled their resources and gave him royalties to a shale reserve. Who knows if that's true, but it would explain his reluctance to leave TCU.
Strong would be a great choice. Not a home-run, but a solid hire who has rebuilt Kragthorpe's mess at UL and is regarded is a good recruiter.
The SunBelt guys (GM included) don't really blow my skirt up, but this isn't exactly a seller's market for coaches.
Chip Kelley can eat a dick. Do not want. Bad coach and worse human.
Holgerson and/or the Leach-tree flavor of the week can all pound sand.
Patterson, Strong, both good choices. Don't know anything about Patterson's situation.
I didn't believe it at first, but am now convinced you can't have a fast tempo spread offense and a good defense. Don't know why you can't have both, but you just can't. For that reason, I don't want any of those coaches. Can't say Chip Kelly is a bad coach when he wins like he does, and his teams execute like they do, but don't want him either. Not sure what you know that makes him a "bad human". All the Air Raid/Leach/Franklin/Holgorsen guys, same same on defenses, don't get it, but don't want to go through shootouts like we saw between aTm and La Tech. Is it possible Tubs has cracked the code on how to have both a tempo spread offense, and a good Defense?
Here's the thing though, if you don't go hire a winner because of scheme, then who is there that's absolutely proven? I like Rhodes, but fact is, he's a .500 head coach. Same with strong until this year, and the year is only half over. And let's be realistic, they L'ville doesn't have a ranked team on their schedule.
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If Chizik isn't fired, the repercussions will be huge.
It will take some world class convincing of the PTB, the fans, and players that he has a solid plan for an immediate turn around, and I don't think the tired old line of "we're going to get back to work" is going to do it.
Bad as Loeffler appears to be, I still think he's a symptom of the bigger problem.
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It will take some world class convincing of the PTB, the fans, and players that he has a solid plan for an immediate turn around, and I don't think the tired old line of "we're going to get back to work" is going to do it.
Bad as Loeffler appears to be, I still think he's a symptom of the bigger problem.
Is Loeffler really the problem? Or is he used to coaching a better prepared athlete. He has done well in the past. Were those athletes better athletes? Or were they just better prepared mentally to fight through the mistakes.
We are a team that seems to have a bunch of players that have never had to face adversity. They were highly rated and came from successful programs. As such, do they have to be coached differently than this staff is used to?
We used to say that Tubs got more out of a bunch of three stars than anyone. Maybe it was because the three stars always had to work harder. I don't know. But it sure looks like for all of our great talent, we have very little resolve.
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Forget "ALL IN" - we're moving to a Raiders-style vertical passing game - "BALLS DEEP!!"
(Snaggle will be SOL)
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It will take some world class convincing of the PTB, the fans, and players that he has a solid plan for an immediate turn around, and I don't think the tired old line of "we're going to get back to work" is going to do it.
Bad as Loeffler appears to be, I still think he's a symptom of the bigger problem.
True, and the losses will multiply and the scores will get even more lopsided. I can stand a re-building year from time to time. It happens. But what positives will this team take with them after this season mercifully ends? There are none! You can't build on incompetence and lack of development. Auburn is a bottom dweller. I guess the next thing we will hear is that this is some kind of character building experience.
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Is Loeffler really the problem? Or is he used to coaching a better prepared athlete.
I wonder how much coaching did Tom Brady and Tim Tebow really need?
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Forget "ALL IN" - we're moving to a Raiders-style vertical passing game - "BALLS DEEP!!"
(Snaggle will be SOL)
The Raiders are 1-4
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Is Loeffler really the problem? Or is he used to coaching a better prepared athlete. He has done well in the past. Were those athletes better athletes? Or were they just better prepared mentally to fight through the mistakes.
We are a team that seems to have a bunch of players that have never had to face adversity. They were highly rated and came from successful programs. As such, do they have to be coached differently than this staff is used to?
We used to say that Tubs got more out of a bunch of three stars than anyone. Maybe it was because the three stars always had to work harder. I don't know. But it sure looks like for all of our great talent, we have very little resolve.
He's the offensive mind. He's being allowed to do what he does, but I have to assume that the offense is mostly his. The Game Plan mostly his, with Chizik's overall philosophy applied. But I see him do things that don't make sense. Mason was having a fair amount of success running the ball Saturday, and carried 13 times in the first half. Then only 5 carries in the second half. Go here, and look at the play calling http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=322870145&period=3 Every time Mason would have success, he'd go away from him.
Mason for 6 yards, the next play OMac for zero, or incomplete pass. Mason breaks one for 26, next play OMac for loss. It makes no fucking sense. We were only down by 7, and Mason was no where to be found in the early part of the 4th...2 carries for negative yardage. A RB can't get in any groove like that.
This wildcat shit. As I've said, it's nothing but Power O, and Counter. Solid Xs and Os. However, Wallace is our least productive runner with 11 carries for 40 yards, and that's all he's being allowed to do. He's only run Power and Counter. So, when he's on the field, that's the only 2 plays that threaten the defense. Wasted plays in my opinion. The flip side is we have those 2 blocking schemes in, yet don't use them in the I or one back sets, and run almost exclusively zone type plays, and maybe ISO,but I'm not sure on the ISO. I think we tried to run counter once out of the gun with Moseley in, and some kind of Jet sweep action...it went for a loss if I recall. It just doesn't make any sense. None of it does.
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No matter what happens, I will be sorely disappointed if the PTB don't make Brian Kelly turn them down at least once.
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No matter what happens, I will be sorely disappointed if the PTB don't make Brian Kelly turn them down at least once.
Notre Dame is his dream job. We stand as good a chance getting Pete Carroll.
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He's the offensive mind. He's being allowed to do what he does, but I have to assume that the offense is mostly his. The Game Plan mostly his, with Chizik's overall philosophy applied. But I see him do things that don't make sense. Mason was having a fair amount of success running the ball Saturday, and carried 13 times in the first half. Then only 5 carries in the second half. Go here, and look at the play calling http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=322870145&period=3 Every time Mason would have success, he'd go away from him.
Mason for 6 yards, the next play OMac for zero, or incomplete pass. Mason breaks one for 26, next play OMac for loss. It makes no fucking sense. We were only down by 7, and Mason was no where to be found in the early part of the 4th...2 carries for negative yardage. A RB can't get in any groove like that.
This wildcat shit. As I've said, it's nothing but Power O, and Counter. Solid Xs and Os. However, Wallace is our least productive runner with 11 carries for 40 yards, and that's all he's being allowed to do. He's only run Power and Counter. So, when he's on the field, that's the only 2 plays that threaten the defense. Wasted plays in my opinion. The flip side is we have those 2 blocking schemes in, yet don't use them in the I or one back sets, and run almost exclusively zone type plays, and maybe ISO,but I'm not sure on the ISO. I think we tried to run counter once out of the gun with Moseley in, and some kind of Jet sweep action...it went for a loss if I recall. It just doesn't make any sense. None of it does.
Yep, the Mildcat was maddening. As you said, they've only let Wallace do one of two things. The defense knows exactly what's coming and they're running it at times that make no sense whatsoever. Wallace is not a good passer from what I saw, but if you insist on putting him in that much, would it not make sense to let him pull up and hit the TE or somebody else...at least once. Wouldn't that make the defense respect other options when Wallace comes in. But, it's pretty much the exact same thing they did with Frazzers the entire last half of the season last year.
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It just doesn't make any sense. None of it does.
AU's current offense reminds me of last year's offense. It looks like the same shit for the most part, and same philosophy. The same thing that happened with Frazier is now happening with Wallace. If you're using him, let him throw it every now and then.
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No matter what happens, I will be sorely disappointed if the PTB don't make Brian Kelly turn them down at least once.
Never go full tard.
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AU's current offense reminds me of last year's offense. It looks like the same shit for the most part, and same philosophy. The same thing that happened with Frazier is now happening with Wallace. If you're using him, let him throw it every now and then.
With the exception of the I formation and true FB, it is pretty much the same. The I formation stuff was supposed to be what we were going to. And the crap people talk about Frazier being spread QB is bullshit. 90% of QBs coming out of HS are "spread QBs".
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Never go full tard.
He's simple Jack.
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He's simple Jack.
It sounded good in his h-h-head movies.
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Fuck off. The post wasn't meant to be funny or entertaining for you or anyone else. You all want to jerk off to big name coaching candidates? Go ahead. Splooge all over your computer screen. Keep it off mine though. It's been clean since this cluster fuck started last year.
And some of you don't think this is a mess? Haaaaaaaaaaa. That's comedy. This is historically one of if not the worst auburn team in history. It's not just a quarterback. It's an ineptitude across the entire program starting with whatever dumbfuck hired jay Jacobs. It's at least a two year rebuilding job if we hire someone decent.
And Paul Rhoades would as quickly come to auburn as he would Texas tech to be tuberville's dc.
And sue me for typing Monroe instead of Lafayette.
Ummm ok. It still sucked. Your reasonings made no sense. There's also no sense in even speculating if we don't rid of the AD. You seriously haven't been around this program enough. At the least you are ignorant as hell. We could get any big name IF we really wanted to. Things would have to happen.
And go fuck yourself too mr sensitive.
Who the hell has exactly been spoogling over big names? Who says it isn't a mess? You are arguing with someone who doesnt exist.
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Ummm ok. It still sucked. Your reasonings made no sense. There's also no sense in even speculating if we don't rid of the AD. You seriously haven't been around this program enough. At the least you are ignorant as hell. We could get any big name IF we really wanted to. Things would have to happen.
And go fuck yourself too mr sensitive.
Who the hell has exactly been spoogling over big names? Who says it isn't a mess? You are arguing with someone who doesnt exist.
You switched to decaf, didn't you?
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Ohhh piece a candy
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Ohhh piece a candy
He falls for that trick every time.
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You switched to decaf, didn't you?
Yes. Yes I did.
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Yes. Yes I did.
If you put a little whiskey in that decaf you wouldn't be so ill.....
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Ummm ok. It still sucked. Your reasonings made no sense. There's also no sense in even speculating if we don't rid of the AD. You seriously haven't been around this program enough. At the least you are ignorant as hell. We could get any big name IF we really wanted to. Things would have to happen.
And go fuck yourself too mr sensitive.
Who the hell has exactly been spoogling over big names? Who says it isn't a mess? You are arguing with someone who doesnt exist.
All y'all mother fuckers need to get the sand outta ya vaginas
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The Raiders are 1-4
and Al Davis is dead - I have no idea if they still have the old "vertical passing game" - I really just wanted to say "BALLS DEEP"
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and Al Davis is dead - I have no idea if they still have the old "vertical passing game" - I really just wanted to say "BALLS DEEP"
I'd like to be able to say it myself.
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I didn't have a problem with THS's post. I think all the hate is coming from das Devil, not actual posters.
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I didn't have a problem with THS's post. I think all the hate is coming from das Devil, not actual posters.
I just vomited pea soup all over my wall and inserted a crucifix into my ass.
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I just vomited pea soup all over my wall and inserted a crucifix into my ass.
Guess I will go jump out of a window.
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Guess I will go jump out of a window.
"Don't do it man! You love yourself too much" semi quote from "Modern Problems"
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"Don't do it man! You love yourself too much"
He really does!
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We could get any big name IF we really wanted to. Things would have to happen.
Who the hell has exactly been spoogling over big names?
:haha:
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"Don't do it man! You love yourself too much" semi quote from "Modern Problems"
Too much keen in me to really do that.
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I haven't seen James Franklin mentioned.
Why not? Dude has taken Vandy to unprecedented heights. Yeah, they're 2-4 right now, but A) That's better than us, and B) They're Vandy.
Facts I've just accrued from the Eyes on Auburn podcast in which they had him on:
-They've never had a Top 70 recruiting class in their entire history. They had a Top 30 class last year, and they have a Top 15 class right now.
- Vanderbilt has only gone to 4 bowl games ever in 122 years. Franklin goes in his first year. Is likely to go again this year.
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I haven't seen James Franklin mentioned.
Why not? Dude has taken Vandy to unprecedented heights. Yeah, they're 2-4 right now, but A) That's better than us, and B) They're Vandy.
Facts I've just accrued from the Eyes on Auburn podcast in which they had him on:
-They've never had a Top 70 recruiting class in their entire history. They had a Top 30 class last year, and they have a Top 15 class right now.
- Vanderbilt has only gone to 4 bowl games ever in 122 years. Franklin goes in his first year. Is likely to go again this year.
He hasn't shown an ability to win any games against good teams. Yeah, they're competitive (for Vandy), but he has to prove he can win.
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He hasn't shown an ability to win any games against good teams. Yeah, they're competitive (for Vandy), but he has to prove he can win.
For the record, what games had Chiz proven he could win before they hired him? I'm sure all 5 of those were something but I wouldn't say that is barometer used in coaching searches where JJ is concerned.
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He hasn't shown an ability to win any games against good teams. Yeah, they're competitive (for Vandy), but he has to prove he can win.
I would argue that infinitely more difficult at Vanderbilt than say Iowa State *cough*, due to academic restrictions etc., to "win" at Vanderbilt.
They "won" at an unprecedented level last year (also unlike a certain coach at Iowa State), and they have absolutely faced the heaviest part of their schedule already this year with Georgia, Florida, & South Carolina. They very realistically could win out and end up 8-4. I'd kill for that this year.
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For the record, what games had Chiz proven he could win before they hired him? I'm sure all 5 of those were something but I wouldn't say that is barometer used in coaching searches where JJ is concerned.
Bethune-Cookman was a heavy favorite when Chiz and the Clones steamrolled them by 4.
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Bethune-Cookman was a heavy favorite when Chiz and the Clones steamrolled them by 4.
Bet that was a helluva celebration
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Bethune-Cookman was a heavy favorite when Chiz and the Clones steamrolled them by 4.
Dude knows how to coach'em down.
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Bet that was a helluva celebration
Signature win
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Signature win
Cover of Cornfield Weekly read: 'Clones Are Back!
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Signature win
What is that?
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I think Franklin is a good coach, but he wouldn't be in my top 4.
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For the record, what games had Chiz proven he could win before they hired him? I'm sure all 5 of those were something but I wouldn't say that is barometer used in coaching searches where JJ is concerned.
That's a fine straw man.
Here are Vandy's wins under Franklin:
Elon
UConn
Ole Miss
Army
Kentucky
Wake Forest
Presbyterian
Missouri
Losses to:
Florida (x2)
Georgia (x2)
Northwestern
South Carolina (x2)
Bama
Arkansas
Tennessee
Cincinnati
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I think Franklin is a good coach, but he wouldn't be in my top 4.
Captain Kangaroo
Pee wee Herman
Gilligan
Bozo the Clown
Are not in my top four either but we have one of them now. I am to the point I just want somebody who is going to grow the program, develop players, and win football games.
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Captain Kangaroo
Pee wee Herman
Gilligan
Bozo the Clown
Are not in my top four either but we have one of them now. I am to the point I just want somebody who is going to grow the program, develop players, and win football games.
I'd kill for Captain Kangaroo.
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I'd kill for Captain Kangaroo.
Not so fast. Most people in the know have been less than pleased with Mr. Green Jeans play calling the last couple of years. Not sure I'd want a package deal if he did come here.
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Not so fast. Most people in the know have been less than pleased with Mr. Green Jeans play calling the last couple of years. Not sure I'd want a package deal if he did come here.
Mr Moose runs a 5-2 defense with an emphasis on tackling though.
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Mr Moose runs a 5-2 defense with an emphasis on tackling though.
And just think how shocked our opponent would be when we drop all those ping pong balls on them.
Fuck I'm old. :haha: :facepalm:
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And just think how shocked our opponent would be when we drop all those ping pong balls on them.
Fuck I'm old. :haha: :facepalm:
Damn it...beat me to the ping pong reference
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Mr Moose runs a 5-2 defense with an emphasis on tackling though.
Slow your roll. If we're considering diversity hires, such as moose, then I nominate Marty Moose.
He has a FUCKING THEME SONG!
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Dancing Bear is one of the more underrated D-line coaches in the game, IMO
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Damn it...beat me to the ping pong reference
Fuck, your old too. :haha: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Space Ghost.
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All charisma. All the time.
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Space Ghost.
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All charisma. All the time.
Space Ghost as HC, Zorak as OC and Moltar as DC.........I'm All In.
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Space Ghost would kick Lord Saybinz' ass.
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Space Ghost would kick Lord Saybinz' ass.
I think Bugs would fuck with the Saybin and then finish him off.
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Don't forget he is a Marine, so practices are gonna be a mutherfucker.
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Slow your roll. If we're considering diversity hires, such as moose, then I nominate Marty Moose.
He has a FUCKING THEME SONG!
And when we win another NC, all the players can go to Wallyworld instead of that damn Mouse House.
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And when we win another NC, all the players can go to Wallyworld instead of that damn Mouse House.
Sorry, Wench...park's closed!
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Sorry, Wench...park's closed!
The moose outside should told ya.
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Sorry, Wench...park's closed!
I think you're all fucked in the head! Well I'll tell you something, this is no longer a football season, it's a quest. It's a quest for fun, I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun, we're all gonna have so much fucking fun we'll need plastic surgery to remove our goddamn smiles! You'll be whistling Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah out of your assholes! I gotta be crazy; I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose! Praise Marty Moose!
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I think you're all fucked in the head! Well I'll tell you something, this is no longer a football season, it's a quest. It's a quest for fun, I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun, we're all gonna have so much fucking fun we'll need plastic surgery to remove our goddamn smiles! You'll be whistling Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah out of your assholes! I gotta be crazy; I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose! Praise Marty Moose!
You're scaring me.
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You're scaring me.
We watch his program. We buy his jerseys, we go to his games, he owes us! Doesn't he owe us, ha? He owes the X-ers, right? Fucking-A right he owes us!
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We watch his program. We buy his jerseys, we go to his games, he owes us! Doesn't he owe us, ha? He owes the X-ers, right? Fucking-A right he owes us!
Oh spare me, Jen, I know your brand of family fun. Tomorrow you'll probably kill the desk clerk, hold up a McDonalds, and drive us 1000 miles out of the way to see the world's largest pile of mud!
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Oh spare me, Jen, I know your brand of family fun. Tomorrow you'll probably kill the desk clerk, hold up a McDonalds, and drive us 1000 miles out of the way to see the world's largest pile of mud!
Oh, hell yes. Drove the whole family to an Auburn game. Worst weekend I ever spent in my life. The play on the field was terrible.
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Oh, hell yes. Drove the whole family to an Auburn game. Worst weekend I ever spent in my life. The play on the field was terrible.
Oh GF, the old West Division was dirty. Everything isn't like home. If everything were like home, there would be no reason for leaving home. Right, Snaggie?
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Back on track with the thread:
I was thinking of more coaches I would like for us to look at. THS mentioned Mark Hudspeth and I had really never heard of him. So I did some research on him.
9 Seasons as a Head Coach
Has the 14th Best Winning % of all current active Head Coaches
79-26
Took a 6-6 (2009) 3-9 (2010) Louisiana–Lafayette team to a bowl in his first year 2011. Final record of 9-4
From 2009-10 he was Miss. State WR Coach
From 2002 -2008 he was the coach at North Alabama where he amassed a record of 66-21
I could get behind him.
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Back on track with the thread:
I was thinking of more coaches I would like for us to look at. THS mentioned Mark Hudspeth and I had really never heard of him. So I did some research on him.
9 Seasons as a Head Coach
Has the 14th Best Winning % of all current active Head Coaches
79-26
Took a 6-6 (2009) 3-9 (2010) Louisiana–Lafayette team to a bowl in his first year 2011. Final record of 9-4
From 2009-10 he was Miss. State WR Coach
From 2002 -2008 he was the coach at North Alabama where he amassed a record of 66-21
I could get behind him.
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Someone else also mentioned Kyle Whittingham...
He would also be someone to consider.
67-29 in 8 seasons at Utah good for a 69.8% and 25th on the current winningest active coaches.
What about David Shaw?
2nd year at Stanford? Still young to the HC ranks.
Could we lure him from the PAC 12. Also he is an offensive minded HC, but Standford does play decent defense.
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If it means we get rid of Chizik you cradle the balls and I'll stroke the shaft.
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If it means we get rid of Chizik you cradle the balls and I'll stroke the shaft.
Agree.
I mean I love women.
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Realistic? You want realistic?
It's me, it's me, it's Bobby P!
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Oh GF, the old West Division was dirty. Everything isn't like home. If everything were like home, there would be no reason for leaving home. Right, Snaggie?
They don't close Florida Clark.
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Fuck up and coming. If Auburn is gonna do this, make it rain in Jim Harbaugh's office. I know the chances are slim to none but by God I would offer him enough money that his ass would atleast have to sleep on it before saying no.
Since their is slim chances that happens, my next 2 choices would be Bobby P. then Kevin Sumlin. If we go for a defensive coach again, then Auburn needs to be throwing a shit load of money at Kliff Kingsberry for OC.
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One more I'd add to the list, Mike Gundy.
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Lutz is done for the season according to reports.
Don't blame the dude.
I don't either. Godspeed, 43. Get yourself ready for the combines.
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One more I'd add to the list, Mike Gundy.
Not sure of his age...but we think he's a man.
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Realistic? You want realistic?
It's me, it's me, it's Bobby P!
Only if you want offense, and stellar play calling. BMFP can do it quicker than any other.
Might need a new DL coach but help up front already verbally committed. All in what you want.
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One more I'd add to the list, Mike Gundy.
No
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I don't either. Godspeed, 43. Get yourself ready for the combines.
This is the motivation behind my soon to be avatar change, but not for its original purpose.
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Realistic options: We are a fucking abortion in the Athletic Dept. Our sports team across the board are apathetic and weak. Which mirrors our leadership. I don't know what is to happen this week, but if some changes are not forthcoming it means that the Athletic leadership (Admin and Coaches) are more concerned with themselves than the greater good for Auburn and we the fans will suffer. I don't know what happen to Luz but I hope he told someone to go fuck themselves and that he was done with this cluster fuck of what use to be a proud football program. I feel for the players as they deserve better than what they are getting.
When we fly back for games you can see my coming and going in my orange and my Auburn hat.I am embarrassed to wear my Auburn stuff.
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Fuck up and coming. If Auburn is gonna do this, make it rain in Jim Harbaugh's office. I know the chances are slim to none but by God I would offer him enough money that his ass would atleast have to sleep on it before saying no.
Since their is slim chances that happens, my next 2 choices would be Bobby P. then Kevin Sumlin. If we go for a defensive coach again, then Auburn needs to be throwing a shit load of money at Kliff Kingsberry for OC.
So, you're saying you want an offensive scheme that won't work in the SEC? BTW, TT trailing TCU 26-21 midway through 4th Q.
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We can get a HC with a 3 year "plan" that goes 4-8, 6-7 and 8-5 if things go well.
OR:
You hire BMFP and add a nasty-assed defensive line coach which make us instantly competitive, exciting to watch and feared by opponents.
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That's not having very much Patience :facepalm:
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That's not having very much Patience :facepalm:
X10000000000000000000
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X10000000000000000000
You gonna be there next week? I will prolly try and sell my tickets and just hang out.
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That's not having very much Patience :facepalm:
No but it's a recruiting class that stays together. It's an incoming freshman QB that will develop, as will others. It's all of this agonizing put to rest and something to look forward to. It's punching the other guy in the throat instead of fighting on your back hoping to be close enough at the end for a win.
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You gonna be there next week? I will prolly try and sell my tickets and just hang out.
Yeah, I think I will, but not 100% today. I need a diversion. Not going to the game probably best considering.
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So, you're saying you want an offensive scheme that won't work in the SEC? BTW, TT trailing TCU 26-21 midway through 4th Q.
You not like what you see out of aTm's O. Pretty impressive with a freshmen QB, imo
No
Solid point.
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Yeah, I think I will, but not 100% today. I need a diversion. Not going to the game probably best considering.
Won't happen but I would like to see only about 30,000 inside the stadium if said staff till in tack.
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Won't happen but I would like to see only about 30,000 inside the stadium if said staff till in tack.
Malt liquor?
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Malt liquor?
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Won't happen but I would like to see only about 30,000 inside the stadium if said staff till in tack.
Malt liquor?
Dat boy Buckwheatin'.
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Dat boy Buckwheatin'.
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Unce
Tice
Fee tines a mady
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So, we would be good with Coach Petrino as HC (regardless of his off field baggage)? Half of TPTB wouldn't like him as a HC, because they wouldn't be able to have their hands on the program (that's a good thing)...also I find it hard to believe Tim Jackson would be allowed to hover around the players under Coach Petrino (another good thing).
Btw, I'm starting to think that Coach Petrino is the type of coach that Auburn needs.
My question would be if he'd keep any of the ace recruiters that are on staff right now.
If Auburn were to bring him in & keep Coach Loop, Grimes, Boulware, Van Gorder, Martinez, & Thig...bring in his brother as WR Coach and Kevin Greene as DL Coach. That would be good.
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Schlitz Says Fuck You
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So, we would be good with Coach Petrino as HC (regardless of his off field baggage)? Half of TPTB wouldn't like him as a HC, because they wouldn't be able to have their hands on the program (that's a good thing)...also I find it hard to believe Tim Jackson would be allowed to hover around the players under Coach Petrino (another good thing).
Btw, I'm starting to think that Coach Petrino is the type of coach that Auburn needs.
My question would be if he'd keep any of the ace recruiters that are on staff right now.
If Auburn were to bring him in & keep Coach Loop, Grimes, Boulware, Van Gorder, Martinez, & Thig...bring in his brother as WR Coach and Kevin Greene as DL Coach. That would be good.
No there's only a few here that want Petrino, myself included, but then I had rather win now with the talent we have and the verbals rather than start over with someone else that will consider this a total rebuild in order to buy time. I think Petrino can get us 25 wins in three seasons whereas another might take as much as four possibly even five to get there. What's more, no one wants to face him with a full compliment of offensive weapons and I like his style of keeping the hammer down on opponents. We can't get that with any other coach I've seen or heard mentioned.
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No there's only a few here that want Petrino, myself included, but then I had rather win now with the talent we have and the verbals rather than start over with someone else that will consider this a total rebuild in order to buy time. I think Petrino can get us 25 wins in three seasons whereas another might take as much as four possibly even five to get there. What's more, no one wants to face him with a full compliment of offensive weapons and I like his style of keeping the hammer down on opponents. We can't get that with any other coach I've seen or heard mentioned.
A negative could be, he'd probably let all the the assistants go and bring in all new coaches...meaning we might lose most of the commitments.
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A negative could be, he'd probably let all the the assistants go and bring in all new coaches...meaning we might lose most of the commitments.
I kinda think we keep most of our top recruits regaurdless. Foster, Liner, and, Lawson will probably be here regaurdless, especially if BVG is retained. And I believe it was Petrino that hired him to the Falcons.
Yes, I'm all about some Bobby P. I mean seriously, the guy took Casey Dick (Remeber that shit head, the Arky equivilent of Clint Mosely) and turned him into a 250 ypg passer.
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So, we would be good with Coach Petrino as HC (regardless of his off field baggage)? Half of TPTB wouldn't like him as a HC, because they wouldn't be able to have their hands on the program (that's a good thing)...also I find it hard to believe Tim Jackson would be allowed to hover around the players under Coach Petrino (another good thing).
Btw, I'm starting to think that Coach Petrino is the type of coach that Auburn needs.
My question would be if he'd keep any of the ace recruiters that are on staff right now.
If Auburn were to bring him in & keep Coach Loop, Grimes, Boulware, Van Gorder, Martinez, & Thig...bring in his brother as WR Coach and Kevin Greene as DL Coach. That would be good.
I want him. He's a winner. And we have talent. He could win now and right the ship as the cupboard is not bare. Plus as k has mentioned he will be out to prove something. Does anyone really think most fans or ptb wanted chizik?
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I want him. He's a winner. And we have talent. He could win now and right the ship as the cupboard is not bare. Plus as k has mentioned he will be out to prove something. Does anyone really think most fans or ptb wanted chizik?
I think the PTB didn't mind, somebody who would tow the company line and not make any waves.
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Unce
Tice
Fee tines a mady
Once Buckwheat sings a song, it's his forever.
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Once Buckwheat sings a song, it's his forever.
Debbie deabba dit dot dhe dot debbah dabis deyes.
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Debbie deabba dit dot dhe dot debbah dabis deyes.
Wookin' for nub in all da wong paces, wookin' for nub.
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Una Panoonah Banka-a-a-a-a!
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Head coach Gene Chizik said Sunday he still has confidence in his assistants, and plans to reassess the staff at the end of the year as he's done since his arrival in 2009.
"We've got five games left," Chizik said. "Our one focus for the next five weeks is nothing but trying to win a game, and that's it. At the end of every year, just like we do, we go out and evaluate everybody as I get evaluated."
Rumors are running rampant of somebody, anybody, being the fall guy. That could be Chizik, it could be Loeffler, or athletic director Jay Jacobs.
"I'm the head coach at Auburn, so it's really not about me. I don't take that lightly. I feel a very, very high sense of responsibility," Chizik said. "I don't ever really think of things for me on a personal level. I think about everybody around me. I think about the Auburn fans. I think about the players and coaches. It's about everybody else and everybody else's expectations."
The Tigers, unsuccessful in five cracks at SEC competition, are in danger of their first winless league campaign since 1980. Nobody but ranked foes remain -- No. 22 Texas A&M and No. 12 Georgia, followed by a trip to No. 1 Alabama.
"This is not where any of us wanted to be, but I also know that the only way you can continue to drive forward and forge forward is keep working at it," Chizik said. "The good thing about our football team, we watched very closely and looked at every single play of that game. Our football team fought down to the end again, and they're going to continue to do that, just like the coaches are.
"Do I feel good about the start? Absolutely not. But I also know that there's highs and lows that come in the game, and we've had a lot of highs and we're hitting some lows and we've got to work through them."
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/10/21/2248085/auburn-football-as-season-dwindles.html#storylink=cpy
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We're only going to focus on one game at a time. Because playing two games at one time would be a little much, don't you think?
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We're only going to focus on one game at a time. Because playing two games at one time would be a little much, don't you think?
Why focus on both offense AND defense?
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We're only going to focus on one game at a time. Because playing two games at one time would be a little much, don't you think?
Well, so far it looks like we have only focused on one half at a time. So this is a step up, right?
We are one helluva one-half team!
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Well, so far it looks like we have only focused on one half at a time. So this is a step up, right?
We are one helluva one-half team!
Yeah, but only half the time
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I kinda don't want Petrino as I feel that he's always going to be a flight risk (either for more money or for scandal on his own accord).. but here's something that could make it interesting: fire Chizik now and hire him as interim for the rest of the season. Then make the HC decision to keep him or get another at the end of the season (although this scorched earth approach is going to yield little success, it can't be any worse than what is going on now). However.. we all know JJ wouldn't let this fly. Also.. I have a feeling that if you get Petrino, some of his old staff (at the least Paul Petrino) follows at the end of the season.
What really worries me? We clean house, and we have to compete with 3 other big name/big money programs in the job market (maybe TX, maybe TN, Ark). Kentucky may be a fourth, but I don't think they have the financial resources that the rest do. Plus if we keep Jacobs, I don't trust him to make the best decision in a situation like that.
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My worry about firing Jacobs... (and I am all on board with getting rid of him, but here are some things I worry about)
A. Can we fire an AD and head coach at the same time?
B. If we do, who conducts the coaching search? and what is our main focus? an AD or a head football coach.
C. Do we go after and get in place an AD first and if so by then would we have lost good HC candidates.
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My worry about firing Jacobs... (and I am all on board with getting rid of him, but here are some things I worry about)
A. Can we fire an AD and head coach at the same time?
B. If we do, who conducts the coaching search? and what is our main focus? an AD or a head football coach.
C. Do we go after and get in place an AD first and if so by then would we have lost good HC candidates.
Dye has all this handled.
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Dye has all this handled.
^^This^^
No worries. Rodney Garner will be our new AD and Wayne Hall will man the sidelines.
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Dye has all this handled.
You think all of Dye's old staff is still available?
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Debbie deabba dit dot dhe dot debbah dabis deyes.
Wookin' Pa Nub in all da wong paces.......Wookin ' Pa Nub.
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Wookin' Pa Nub in all da wong paces.......Wookin ' Pa Nub.
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In honor of our 1-6 start the worst since 98 Chizik decided to commission a new pin, Bowden Style.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/inepautude.png)
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The man who sold more records than Elvis or the Beatles...in Kenya.
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Damn you Uncle Sani!
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In honor of our 1-6 start the worst since 98 Chizik decided to commission a new pin, Bowden Style.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/inepautude.png)
Missing a "T" right before the AU, but otherwise :gold:
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Missing a "T" right before the AU, but otherwise :gold:
The misspelling and the incorrect vowel sound are fitting, I think.
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Wookin' Pa Nub in all da wong paces.......Wookin ' Pa Nub.
In his defense.. it's hard to remember what the hell you were typing mid-sentence when Buzz's avatar is on the same page....
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So, I'm perusing ITAT (the old site, not that abortion of a Fox production they're trying to push on us) and the Petrino debate has finally found its line of demarcation: the Creed.
The holier than thou crowd cites the Creed and says that Bobby is a morally bankrupt, suitcase packing, volleyball player schtupping, meanie.
The pro-BP crowd says, Fuck it. Let's win football games.
I have a couple of thoughts on this silly debate:
1) BP lives and breathes the part of the Creed calling for "work, hard work."
2) Tubs once said that he'd leave Oxford in a pine box, but is not castigated by the Creeders.
I am firmly in the camp of wanting BP to be our next HC. I do not think he is damaged beyond salvation and I think he would be much more circumspect in his actions now that he has lived through the consequences/humiliation.
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I am firmly in the camp of wanting BP to be our next HC. I do not think he is damaged beyond salvation and I think he would be much more circumspect in his actions now that he has lived through the consequences/humiliation.
I have been one not so high on Petrino for this very reason but the more I think about it, I can't say
I disagree with you. One, he is a helluva coach and two, I would have to think that his errors would
make him that much more aware and focused. If that is the case, watch out!
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So, I'm perusing ITAT (the old site, not that abortion of a Fox production they're trying to push on us) and the Petrino debate has finally found its line of demarcation: the Creed.
The holier than thou crowd cites the Creed and says that Bobby is a morally bankrupt, suitcase packing, volleyball player schtupping, meanie.
The pro-BP crowd says, Fuck it. Let's win football games.
I have a couple of thoughts on this silly debate:
1) BP lives and breathes the part of the Creed calling for "work, hard work."
2) Tubs once said that he'd leave Oxford in a pine box, but is not castigated by the Creeders.
I am firmly in the camp of wanting BP to be our next HC. I do not think he is damaged beyond salvation and I think he would be much more circumspect in his actions now that he has lived through the consequences/humiliation.
It's like you type it and then I say it...and then I try to type it myself but forget what we both said. So, I type something else.
AU1 sent me an article on BP. I deleted it and hell, it may have been posted here. Don't care, though. It made me take a second look at the guy with regard to discipline on and off the field. I read it wishing we had someone...anyone..like that. Obviously, his discipline off the field was lacking but hey, who's gonna' cast the first stone and all that? Someone is going to snap the guy up. And that someone is going to win, quickly.
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A. Can we fire an AD and head coach at the same time?
Penn State did it. You bring in an interium - outside consultant maybe - to do the HC search. Then you look for an AD - prevents cronyism a la Jacobs - Chiz too.
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So, I'm perusing ITAT (the old site, not that abortion of a Fox production they're trying to push on us) and the Petrino debate has finally found its line of demarcation: the Creed.
The holier than thou crowd cites the Creed and says that Bobby is a morally bankrupt, suitcase packing, volleyball player schtupping, meanie.
The pro-BP crowd says, Fuck it. Let's win football games.
I have a couple of thoughts on this silly debate:
1) BP lives and breathes the part of the Creed calling for "work, hard work."
2) Tubs once said that he'd leave Oxford in a pine box, but is not castigated by the Creeders.
I am firmly in the camp of wanting BP to be our next HC. I do not think he is damaged beyond salvation and I think he would be much more circumspect in his actions now that he has lived through the consequences/humiliation.
Funny, Chip Kelly can't coach, but Petrino is our savior? And you base these opinions on what? Both are offensive minded coaches, and both pay little attention to defense. Kelly has at least won his own conference, Petrino has not sniffed an SEC title. He won Conf. USA and the Big East once each. Whoopty friggin' do. Every Petrino fan says "he'll recruit better at Auburn". Will he...based on what evidence? Or will he take the approach he took at Ark. and just recruit offense, and let the defense have the scraps?
I posted his records in another thread. There are as many holes in his resume as anybody out there, and that's not counting the "creed issues".
On the plus side for Petrino, for him to take our job, he'd have to be an arrogant fuck to weather the shit storm of media, and that's the kind of guy I'd like to have in place. If he's all you Petrino Pimps think he is, then we might actually be able to out asshole the midget asshole across the state.
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I think we're getting Petrino. Don't know why, just "that feeling".
Maybe it's the misdirection tactic at play, but that's what I'm sensing.
I hope we can land some superstar out of the NFL, but that seems highly doubtful.
I was originally on board with an up-and-comer, but I think that's no longer an option considering just how low we've sunk.
I've always kind of thought of him as a dick, so it's going to be a tough pill to swallow. Maybe it won't be so bad if he's our dick. And at least we can find solace in the fact that he's not as much of a dick as king dick across the state.
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I don't understand the big deal with Petrino.
He won 2-3 games that he shouldn't have over 4 years, and put some points on the board while doing it. He gives 0 fucks about defense. I'm not sure how well that philosophy would hold up in the same division as LSU and Alabama. Never won the SECW or a NC while at Arky. Saban owns him. Not sure how he would recruit with a viable in-state rival. Auburn could certainly do worse than Petrino. Not saying he's just an absolutely terrible coach or anything. Just not sure if you guys should settle just because he may be the easiest to get.
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I don't understand the big deal with Petrino.
He won 2-3 games that he shouldn't have over 4 years, and put some points on the board while doing it. He gives 0 fucks about defense. I'm not sure how well that philosophy would hold up in the same division as LSU and Alabama. Never won the SECW or a NC while at Arky. Saban owns him. Not sure how he would recruit with a viable in-state rival. Auburn could certainly do worse than Petrino. Not saying he's just an absolutely terrible coach or anything. Just not sure if you guys should settle just because he may be the easiest to get.
The goat fucker gets it.
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I don't understand the big deal with Petrino.
He won 2-3 games that he shouldn't have over 4 years, and put some points on the board while doing it. He gives 0 fucks about defense. I'm not sure how well that philosophy would hold up in the same division as LSU and Alabama. Never won the SECW or a NC while at Arky. Saban owns him. Not sure how he would recruit with a viable in-state rival. Auburn could certainly do worse than Petrino. Not saying he's just an absolutely terrible coach or anything. Just not sure if you guys should settle just because he may be the easiest to get.
It pains me to say, that I agree with the goat humper.
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I don't understand the big deal with Petrino.
He won 2-3 games that he shouldn't have over 4 years, and put some points on the board while doing it. He gives 0 fucks about defense. I'm not sure how well that philosophy would hold up in the same division as LSU and Alabama. Never won the SECW or a NC while at Arky. Saban owns him. Not sure how he would recruit with a viable in-state rival. Auburn could certainly do worse than Petrino. Not saying he's just an absolutely terrible coach or anything. Just not sure if you guys should settle just because he may be the easiest to get.
It's like I say it two weeks ago, and you retype it.
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It's like I say it two weeks ago, and you retype it.
He said it better.
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I don't understand the big deal with Petrino.
He won 2-3 games that he shouldn't have over 4 years, and put some points on the board while doing it. He gives 0 fucks about defense. I'm not sure how well that philosophy would hold up in the same division as LSU and Alabama. Never won the SECW or a NC while at Arky. Saban owns him. Not sure how he would recruit with a viable in-state rival. Auburn could certainly do worse than Petrino. Not saying he's just an absolutely terrible coach or anything. Just not sure if you guys should settle just because he may be the easiest to get.
Agree. Fuck you.
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I say again...
Baseball:
Hal Baird
Steve Renfroe
Tom Slater
John Pawlowski
Basketball:
Sonny Smith
Tommy Joe Eagles
Cliff Ellis
Jeff Lebo
Tony Barbee
Football:
Doug Barfield - Can't recall
Pat Dye - East Carolina and Wyoming
Terry Bowden - Samford
Tommy Tuberville - Ole Miss
Gene Chizik - Iowa State
Unless things change at the top. Unless the attitude changes to one of getting in the arms race and buying bigger/badder weapons than the other guy....we'll hire (Assuming they even let Chizik go) Tom Flemfucker from East Montana Bible College. We have zero history of splash hires in any sport.....well, except Zed Beespunk in Bass Fishing. Everybody wanted Zed. Things have to change at the top and they have to bring someone proven in and hand them the keys to the caddy.
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I just hope we're not hasty in this whole process, because this hire will, beyond a doubt, be the most important hire in the history of the football program.
I hope we're careful not to ascribe to the "anyone has got to be better", "lesser of two evils" mentality and truly get the homerun here. Not sure what that is, exactly, but we are certainly at a crossroads as a program, and I can't overstate how integral this hire will be to our long-term success. We don't need another bust that we show the road after two years. We don't need passable mediocrity either where we end up with 8-10 wins every year, because we'll never justify letting him go and moving past it.
I hope I'm not disappointed, whatever the outcome.
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I just hope we're not hasty in this whole process, because this hire will, beyond a doubt, be the most important hire in the history of the football program.
I hope we're careful not to ascribe to the "anyone has got to be better", "lesser of two evils" mentality and truly get the homerun here. Not sure what that is, exactly, but we are certainly at a crossroads as a program, and I can't overstate how integral this hire will be to our long-term success. We don't need another bust that we show the road after two years. We don't need passable mediocrity either where we end up with 8-10 wins every year, because we'll never justify letting him go and moving past it.
I hope I'm not disappointed, whatever the outcome.
So, what is a homerun hire here? Petrino? Not in my mind. Who? Why?
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So, what is a homerun hire here? Petrino? Not in my mind. Who? Why?
There really is no such thing as a homerun hire. Anyone who you hire... even a seasoned coach could come in and fail. Different school, usually they have different coordinators, different players, different league. You never know what the outcome will be.
The guy I would say comes closest (and who I think we could have a shot at) would be Patterson. Because of his long term success. Outside of that it is pretty much a gamble. I know who I would choose, doesn't mean he would be successful though.
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Funny, Chip Kelly can't coach, but Petrino is our savior? And you base these opinions on what?
My observations of the two of them in action. Kelly's offense sucked ass against a decidedly mediocre Auburn defense. In a division with Miles and Saban, that shit won't work.
Both are offensive minded coaches, and both pay little attention to defense.
Ferraris and Yugos are both cars, with wheels and engines.
Kelly has at least won his own conference, Petrino has not sniffed an SEC title. He won Conf. USA and the Big East once each. Whoopty friggin' do.
Check out Oregon's schedule and then look at Arkansas'. Kelly was busy dominating UCLA, Cal, a sanctioned USC and...uh...who?
Petrino was putting the Hogs in their first ever BCS game while Bama and LSU (and even Auburn) were at their best.
Every Petrino fan says "he'll recruit better at Auburn". Will he...based on what evidence? Or will he take the approach he took at Ark. and just recruit offense, and let the defense have the scraps?
I haven't said that heretofore, but I will now. The reason: Auburn is a better/easier sell than Arkansas. We reach some pretty fertile grounds for our players (notably GA and FL). Arkansas is limited to AR/MO and the leftovers in LA/OK.
I posted his records in another thread. There are as many holes in his resume as anybody out there, and that's not counting the "creed issues".
I don't think there are any candidates with spotless resumes. I'm open to other options (Patterson, for example). I do, however, think that Petrino is in the top 3 available candidates.
On the plus side for Petrino, for him to take our job, he'd have to be an arrogant fuck to weather the shit storm of media, and that's the kind of guy I'd like to have in place. If he's all you Petrino Pimps think he is, then we might actually be able to out asshole the midget asshole across the state.
Agree with this.
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Petrino was putting the Hogs in their first ever BCS game while Bama and LSU (and even Auburn) were at their best.
In '08 Petrino barely beat a 5-7 AU, and an 8-5 LSU. In '09, he beat an 8-5 AU, and lost to a 9-4 LSU. In '10 he lost to a perfect AU team, and beat an 11-2 LSU team. In '11, he beat an 8-5 AU, and lost to a nearly perfect LSU team. Add in that he has never beaten Alabama, and loses with an average score of 36-14. He has only managed to score more than 14 points against Alabama, when Arky lost 24-20 in 2010.
So, he's 3-1 against AU, 2-2 against LSU, and 0-4 against Alabama. The wins against AU were in down years. Which have pretty much been the past 3 of 4 years. Also, in those 4 years, sprinkle in some ass rapings at the hands of Texas and UF, and losses to Ole Miss, UGA, and Ohio State.
Just sayin....
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In '08 Petrino barely beat a 5-7 AU, and an 8-5 LSU. In '09, he beat an 8-5 AU, and lost to a 9-4 LSU. In '10 he lost to a perfect AU team, and beat an 11-2 LSU team. In '11, he beat an 8-5 AU, and lost to a nearly perfect LSU team. Add in that he has never beaten Alabama, and loses with an average score of 36-14. He has only managed to score more than 14 points against Alabama, when Arky lost 24-20 in 2010.
So, he's 3-1 against AU, 2-2 against LSU, and 0-4 against Alabama. The wins against AU were in down years. Which have pretty much been the past 3 of 4 years. Also, in those 4 years, sprinkle in some ass rapings at the hands of Texas and UF, and losses to Ole Miss, UGA, and Ohio State.
Just sayin....
If the barometer for hiring is success against Saban...then there are no qualified candidates and we should just shut down the football team.
Fuck you, suckhole.
EDIT: Almost forgot to throw this in:
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If the barometer for hiring is success against Saban...then there are no qualified candidates and we should just shut down the football team.
Fuck you, suckhole.
He was head of the debating team
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He was head of the debating team
Nibb High Football RULES!
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If the barometer for hiring is success against Saban...then there are no qualified candidates and we should just shut down the football team.
Unless we hire Watson Brown or Charlie Weatherbie.
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Unless we hire Watson Brown or Charlie Weatherbie.
Zing!
Well played, sir.
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If the barometer for hiring is success against Saban...then there are no qualified candidates and we should just shut down the football team.
Fuck you, suckhole.
EDIT: Almost forgot to throw this in:
If he's the coach at Auburn, don't you feel like that should at least be considered? You think they should hire a guy who has a proven record of getting his shit pushed in by Alabama on a yearly basis? Then send him out to recruit against Saban? I'm not saying that it's the ONLY reason not to hire him. Maybe the circumstances would be different at AU where he could be more competitive.
Look at that mixed bag of results. When for the majority of the past 4 years you're going to have to go through LSU or Alabama to win the west, and you're a combined 2-6 against them, I think it is something to at least look at when you're thinking of hiring that coach.
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If he's the coach at Auburn, don't you feel like that should at least be considered? You think they should hire a guy who has a proven record of getting his shit pushed in by Alabama on a yearly basis? Then send him out to recruit against Saban? I'm not saying that it's the ONLY reason not to hire him. Maybe the circumstances would be different at AU where he could be more competitive.
Look at that mixed bag of results. When for the majority of the past 4 years you're going to have to go through LSU or Alabama to win the west, and you're a combined 2-6 against them, I think it is something to at least look at when you're thinking of hiring that coach.
Point being, there is nobody that has had any sustained success vs Saban or Miles.
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If he's the coach at Auburn, don't you feel like that should at least be considered? You think they should hire a guy who has a proven record of getting his shit pushed in by Alabama on a yearly basis? Then send him out to recruit against Saban? I'm not saying that it's the ONLY reason not to hire him. Maybe the circumstances would be different at AU where he could be more competitive.
Look at that mixed bag of results. When for the majority of the past 4 years you're going to have to go through LSU or Alabama to win the west, and you're a combined 2-6 against them, I think it is something to at least look at when you're thinking of hiring that coach.
The more you try to convince me that Petrino is a shit coach, the more I think he would be an acceptable hire, Bre'er Rabbit.
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If he's the coach at Auburn, don't you feel like that should at least be considered? You think they should hire a guy who has a proven record of getting his shit pushed in by Alabama on a yearly basis? Then send him out to recruit against Saban? I'm not saying that it's the ONLY reason not to hire him. Maybe the circumstances would be different at AU where he could be more competitive.
Look at that mixed bag of results. When for the majority of the past 4 years you're going to have to go through LSU or Alabama to win the west, and you're a combined 2-6 against them, I think it is something to at least look at when you're thinking of hiring that coach.
I get your simplistic reasoning.
The problems with it are twofold:
1) Auburn isn't Arkansas.
2) No one has fared well against both Saban and Miles in the last 4-5 years on a consistent basis.
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I get your simplistic reasoning.
The problems with it are twofold:
1) Auburn isn't Arkansas.
2) No one has fared well against both Saban and Miles in the last 4-5 years on a consistent basis.
It may not matter, but if it were my team, I would like them to go get someone that at least hasn't proven he will fold nearly every damn time. Probably not a reasonable line of thinking from those making the decisions, but somewhat reasonable at the fan level I suppose. While I agree that AU isn't Arkansas, and maybe he could be a little more competitive at AU, maybe Arky was his idea of having it the way he wanted it. Maybe that's what he will try to duplicate. Maybe not. Like I said, AU could certainly do worse.
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If Auburn is going to set shit straight then Petrino is the right hire or you give Chizik one more year to clean house and get shit right.
The catch is JJ is fired.
Petrino comes in and gets the offense running. BVG is retained. Say what you will about Petrino at Arkansas, but it's a stupid argument. So he couldn't beat Bama, defense sucked and recruiting was less than par. He was also at ARKANSAS. When was the last time they won the SEC? When was the last time they were in the hunt for a National Title? If we hire Petrino and a new AD, two things happen. Either Petrino meets expectations and exceeds them or he does enough to keep the program running and allows the new AD to make him the scape goat and hire the man he wants after being in control a couple of years.
Bottom line is if JJ stays it does not matter what coach we hire, this will just be a constant cycle of 9 win seasons and suckage.
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If Auburn is going to set shoot straight then Petrino is the right hire or you give Chizik one more year to clean house and get shoot right.
The catch is JJ is fired.
Petrino comes in and gets the offense running. BVG is retained. Say what you will about Petrino at Arkansas, but it's a stupid argument. So he couldn't beat Bama, defense sucked and recruiting was less than par. He was also at ARKANSAS. When was the last time they won the SEC? When was the last time they were in the hunt for a National Title? If we hire Petrino and a new AD, two things happen. Either Petrino meets expectations and exceeds them or he does enough to keep the program running and allows the new AD to make him the scape goat and hire the man he wants after being in control a couple of years.
Bottom line is if JJ stays it does not matter what coach we hire, this will just be a constant cycle of 9 win seasons and suckage.
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If JJ is making the hire, bet he's taking a hard look at Bob Chesney of the Salve Regina Seahawks who compiled a 14-7 record over his first two years. This past season, Chesney led the Seahawks to their most successful year since the 1998 campaign, finishing with an overall record of 8-3 while earning their first ECAC Bowl victory in 13 years with a decisive 26-6 defeat over Worcester State in the North-West Bowl. The team ended the season winning each of its last six contests to finish the year ranked No. 9 in the New England Division III Football Poll.
http://www.salveathletics.com/sports/fball/coaches/20110601_chesney (http://www.salveathletics.com/sports/fball/coaches/20110601_chesney)
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Since Satan & Spurrier sucked as pro coaches, but damn good college coaches. Maybe we should hire some pro coach that sucks. Discuss
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defense sucked and recruiting was less than par. He was also at ARKANSAS. When was the last time they won the SEC? When was the last time they were in the hunt for a National Title?
Sounds eerily similar to an argument I heard right around January 2009.....it was about a coach at a school somewhere in Iowa.....can't quite put my finger on it.....
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How about this for out-of-the-box thinking:
Would you take this record from 06-11:
4-8 (2-6)
6-6 (3-5)
9-4 (5-3)
8-5 (5-3)
7-6 (3-5)
6-7 (3-5)
0-4 in Bowls
This is Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. He has an interesting story: He was heir apparent to the head coach who died unexpectedly in JUNE of 2006. Fitzgerald was promoted from LB coach all the way to HC...with 2.5 months until the season opener. The guy has had an exciting offense and respectable defense at what amounts to the Vandy of the Big 10...the functional equivalent of Duke.
NCAA Ranks:
Offense -
2006 - 97th
2007 - 45th
2008 - 55th
2009 - 34th
2010 - 44th
2011 - 34th
Defense -
2006 - T73
2007 - T95
2008 - T14
2009 - T35
2010 - T96
2011 - T95
Not necessarily advocating him, but would rather him than James Franklin since I think he's produced at a higher level over a longer time sample.
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Sounds eerily similar to an argument I heard right around January 2009.....it was about a coach at a school somewhere in Iowa.....can't quite put my finger on it.....
:haha: Seriously? You think thats a sound comparison? Look goat humper the reason you don't wanna see BMFP at Auburn is because the very day that it happens, Auburn becomes a threat. Yoda is dead on. How many times did Tommy T. beat Mullet U when he was at Old Piss? By the time he left town he was 7-3 against Harvey U. Point is I don't give a fuck what BMFP's record was against lord short dick while coaching the pigglets. I wanna see what his ass can do at Auburn because unless every recruitnick in the country had their collective heads stuck up their asses the last 4 years, Auburn is loaded with fucking far more talent than BFMP has ever had on his hands. And if he can take Casy Dick's retarded ass and throw for 300 yards in an SEC game, I'd love to see what Kiehl Frazier looked like with some real coaching.
And lets just be clear about something while I will give you the fact that you have a damn fine football coach, don't think for damn minute that this fucking Auburn fan it about to kneel in front of some fucking 2 foot tall statue and bow down. Ya'll motherfuckers can pretend he is the 2nd coming of the old drunken bastard all ya'll want but the fact is lord short dick's run is no better than Gene fucking Stallings run in the early 90s. Look the shit up. Auburn was able to survive that shit with Buster Brown as coach, so I'm more than positive Auburn, with BFMP, will be able to more than survive agaisnt all mighty fucking Harvey U.
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Sounds eerily similar to an argument I heard right around January 2009.....it was about a coach at a school somewhere in Iowa.....can't quite put my finger on it.....
I don't see any similarities. Petrino has proven that he can win games he has not shown that he can win championships. He is an offensive coach. He was able to do things at Arkansas that have not been done in years. If you really think that Petrino did not sit around this season and examine current teams and teams he has commanded then you might want to rethink. If he is as egotistical as I think he is, he will come back with something to prove. Any great coach or leader examines past experiences and previous and present successful individuals and adapts their behavior to become better. You want proof, look at your own coach. He has a reason and a purpose for doing things the way he does. He has taken what he has learned on his journey to come up with the program he has today.
Again, if Petrino doesn't cut it after a couple of years the NEW AD can take control without the media backlash that JJ would have if he hired Petrino then wanted to can him after 2 years.
A change from the top must be made if AU is going to truely rebuild into what we knew of AU football under Dye and Tubberville.
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:haha: Seriously? You think thats a sound comparison? Look goat humper the reason you don't wanna see BMFP at Auburn is because the very day that it happens, Auburn becomes a threat. Yoda is dead on. How many times did Tommy T. beat Mullet U when he was at Old Piss? By the time he left town he was 7-3 against Harvey U. Point is I don't give a fuck what BMFP's record was against lord short dick while coaching the pigglets. I wanna see what his ass can do at Auburn because unless every recruitnick in the country had their collective heads stuck up their asses the last 4 years, Auburn is loaded with fucking far more talent than BFMP has ever had on his hands. And if he can take Casy Dick's retarded ass and throw for 300 yards in an SEC game, I'd love to see what Kiehl Frazier looked like with some real coaching.
And lets just be clear about something while I will give you the fact that you have a damn fine football coach, don't think for damn minute that this fucking Auburn fan it about to kneel in front of some fucking 2 foot tall statue and bow down. Ya'll motherfuckers can pretend he is the 2nd coming of the old drunken bastard all ya'll want but the fact is lord short dick's run is no better than Gene fucking Stallings run in the early 90s. Look the shit up. Auburn was able to survive that shit with Buster Brown as coach, so I'm more than positive Auburn, with BFMP, will be able to more than survive agaisnt all mighty fucking Harvey U.
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Couldn't say it any better.
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How about this for out-of-the-box thinking:
Would you take this record from 06-11:
4-8 (2-6)
6-6 (3-5)
9-4 (5-3)
8-5 (5-3)
7-6 (3-5)
6-7 (3-5)
0-4 in Bowls
This is Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. He has an interesting story: He was heir apparent to the head coach who died unexpectedly in JUNE of 2006. Fitzgerald was promoted from LB coach all the way to HC...with 2.5 months until the season opener. The guy has had an exciting offense and respectable defense at what amounts to the Vandy of the Big 10...the functional equivalent of Duke.
NCAA Ranks:
Offense -
2006 - 97th
2007 - 45th
2008 - 55th
2009 - 34th
2010 - 44th
2011 - 34th
Defense -
2006 - T73
2007 - T95
2008 - T14
2009 - T35
2010 - T96
2011 - T95
Not necessarily advocating him, but would rather him than James Franklin since I think he's produced at a higher level over a longer time sample.
Is he ready to gameplan and compete against nick sabans and mark richts week in and week out? I'd say no.
But I think he'd be better than Franklin. Franklin's had some hothead moments. I'm not a big fan of his.
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Is he ready to gameplan and compete against nick sabans and mark richts week in and week out? I'd say no.
But I think he'd be better than Franklin. Franklin's had some hothead moments. I'm not a big fan of his.
Franklin also made some calls in the game this past Saturday that would have made me grab my stadium hotdog and head straight to the exit (had I been scouting him as a member of the search committee).
Looking around the country, I see no name that immediately jumps out at me as the "homerun" hire that we have a realistic shot at landing. It pains me to say this because I absolutely hate the idea of this bastard standing on our sideline, but Petrino may very well be our best shot at getting this thing turned around quickly.
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:haha: Seriously? You think thats a sound comparison?
Of course there are differences in the situation, just pointing out the reasoning.
Look goat humper the reason you don't wanna see BMFP at Auburn is because the very day that it happens, Auburn becomes a threat.
I don't think that at all. I don't see any reason why I should be shaking in my boots over it. Petrino hasn't been particularly known as a light the world on fire recruiter. He knows how to recruit some good QBs, but I never saw a complete team at Arkansas. True, if I were a student and had the choice between Auburn or Arkansas, it would be Auburn 10 out of 10 times. But shit, there are kids that pick Miss. St, Ole Miss, etc over Alabama and Auburn as well. To each his own.
Yoda is dead on. How many times did Tommy T. beat Mullet U when he was at Old Piss? By the time he left town he was 7-3 against Harvey U.
You're absolutely right. As I said before, I don't think that the sole determining factor should be the record vs. Alabama. I'm simply saying, in today's landscape, you might want to consider it.
Point is I don't give a fuck what BMFP's record was against lord short dick while coaching the pigglets. I wanna see what his ass can do at Auburn because unless every recruitnick in the country had their collective heads stuck up their asses the last 4 years, Auburn is loaded with fucking far more talent than BFMP has ever had on his hands. And if he can take Casy Dick's retarded ass and throw for 300 yards in an SEC game, I'd love to see what Kiehl Frazier looked like with some real coaching.
And if they're this fucked up, good luck unfucking that. And if you can find somebody to unfuck Frazier? I'd like to see it.
And lets just be clear about something while I will give you the fact that you have a damn fine football coach, don't think for damn minute that this fucking Auburn fan it about to kneel in front of some fucking 2 foot tall statue and bow down. Ya'll motherfuckers can pretend he is the 2nd coming of the old drunken bastard all ya'll want but the fact is lord short dick's run is no better than Gene fucking Stallings run in the early 90s. Look the shit up. Auburn was able to survive that shit with Buster Brown as coach, so I'm more than positive Auburn, with BFMP, will be able to more than survive agaisnt all mighty fucking Harvey U.
I don't really give a shit about Bear. I wasn't alive when he was around. I don't really give a shit about Stallings. Shit that happened 16-22 years ago has no bearing on anything today. I didn't say that Saban being at Alabama would absolutely cripple the Auburn program. Auburn will survive regardless of who coaches at each school.
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"I don't really give a shit about Bear."
BLASPHEMER
Harvey will be crushed
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grab my stadium hotdog
That's the only thing keeping football season interesting.
I mean grabbing my dog...not yours...
It has to be your dog...
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So, I'm perusing ITAT (the old site, not that abortion of a Fox production they're trying to push on us) and the Petrino debate has finally found its line of demarcation: the Creed.
The holier than thou crowd cites the Creed and says that Bobby is a morally bankrupt, suitcase packing, volleyball player schtupping, meanie.
The pro-BP crowd says, Fuck it. Let's win football games.
I have a couple of thoughts on this silly debate:
1) BP lives and breathes the part of the Creed calling for "work, hard work."
2) Tubs once said that he'd leave Oxford in a pine box, but is not castigated by the Creeders.
I am firmly in the camp of wanting BP to be our next HC. I do not think he is damaged beyond salvation and I think he would be much more circumspect in his actions now that he has lived through the consequences/humiliation.
Once again we are in agreement big Dan.
Fuck the other shit. He's paid to win ball games and run the program. End of story.
Writeup an ironclad contract in case he leaves or fucks up and were covered. Also no buyout for us. Bobby needs a job and we need a coach who wins. We have the leverage to negotiate right now with his recent troubles.
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Funny, Chip Kelly can't coach, but Petrino is our savior? And you base these opinions on what? Both are offensive minded coaches, and both pay little attention to defense. Kelly has at least won his own conference, Petrino has not sniffed an SEC title. He won Conf. USA and the Big East once each. Whoopty friggin' do. Every Petrino fan says "he'll recruit better at Auburn". Will he...based on what evidence? Or will he take the approach he took at Ark. and just recruit offense, and let the defense have the scraps?
I posted his records in another thread. There are as many holes in his resume as anybody out there, and that's not counting the "creed issues".
On the plus side for Petrino, for him to take our job, he'd have to be an arrogant fuck to weather the shit storm of media, and that's the kind of guy I'd like to have in place. If he's all you Petrino Pimps think he is, then we might actually be able to out asshole the midget asshole across the state.
The fucker has won ball games everywhere he's been. He's coached in the SEC and the nfl. Fucker can coach and is probably even moreso out to redeem himself.
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Of course there are differences in the situation, just pointing out the reasoning.
I don't think that at all. I don't see any reason why I should be shaking in my boots over it. Petrino hasn't been particularly known as a light the world on fire recruiter. He knows how to recruit some good QBs, but I never saw a complete team at Arkansas. True, if I were a student and had the choice between Auburn or Arkansas, it would be Auburn 10 out of 10 times. But shit, there are kids that pick Miss. St, Ole Miss, etc over Alabama and Auburn as well. To each his own.
You're absolutely right. As I said before, I don't think that the sole determining factor should be the record vs. Alabama. I'm simply saying, in today's landscape, you might want to consider it.
And if they're this fucked up, good luck unfucking that. And if you can find somebody to unfuck Frazier? I'd like to see it.
I don't really give a shit about Bear. I wasn't alive when he was around. I don't really give a shit about Stallings. Shit that happened 16-22 years ago has no bearing on anything today. I didn't say that Saban being at Alabama would absolutely cripple the Auburn program. Auburn will survive regardless of who coaches at each school.
No but Auburn can cripple itself without a stopgap hire and for that I'm convinced Petrino is the right guy at this time. Don't know long term but he makes us competitive right away. Don't know if he sticks with Van Gorder but given the circumstances it would make sense to retain him as he knows the personnel on that side of the ball. Petrino's a known quantity and a serious challenge for any opposing coordinator. I'll take his prior knowledge of Saban and the rest over any newcomer with a three year contract and the eventual shitload of excuses as to why this is going to take time.
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No but Auburn can cripple itself without a stopgap hire and for that I'm convinced Petrino is the right guy at this time. Don't know long term but he makes us competitive right away. Don't know if he sticks with Van Gorder but given the circumstances it would make sense to retain him as he knows the personnel on that side of the ball. Petrino's a known quantity and a serious challenge for any opposing coordinator. I'll take his prior knowledge of Saban and the rest over any newcomer with a three year contract and the eventual shitload of excuses as to why this is going to take time.
He also never had the resources to have a defensive staff worth a shit in Fayetteville. He will be able to hire what he needs. Recruiting planes, facilities, etc. It will be a step up for him. He could really do some damage in a good way. He has won in the sec. That's important to me.
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Was just going to reiterate something I said a few weeks ago.....
Saban was leaving after 3 years at Bama, because all he does is leave! He'd never stick around. Bama was a stepping stone to get back into college.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Saban wasn't a hired gun, but I think the driving reason for him to be in his 6th season is BECAUSE of all the people who questioned his intentions and his ability to stay somewhere for more than 3-4 years. Hell, I think he might really retire at Alabama.
Petrino is the same. He'll get back into coaching, at a big school, and he'll make it a point to stay and do right just to prove to everyone that he isn't a scumbag. And he'll probably end up winning a NC where ever he goes.
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How about this for out-of-the-box thinking:
Would you take this record from 06-11:
4-8 (2-6)
6-6 (3-5)
9-4 (5-3)
8-5 (5-3)
7-6 (3-5)
6-7 (3-5)
0-4 in Bowls
This is Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. He has an interesting story: He was heir apparent to the head coach who died unexpectedly in JUNE of 2006. Fitzgerald was promoted from LB coach all the way to HC...with 2.5 months until the season opener. The guy has had an exciting offense and respectable defense at what amounts to the Vandy of the Big 10...the functional equivalent of Duke.
NCAA Ranks:
Offense -
2006 - 97th
2007 - 45th
2008 - 55th
2009 - 34th
2010 - 44th
2011 - 34th
Defense -
2006 - T73
2007 - T95
2008 - T14
2009 - T35
2010 - T96
2011 - T95
Not necessarily advocating him, but would rather him than James Franklin since I think he's produced at a higher level over a longer time sample.
Fact is, there's lots of really good football coaches out there. Each with his own history, and style. Not all the good ones have stellar W/L records either. The situation they're in makes a huge difference. For all the arguments I have against him, Petrino is a good football coach. Look how dreadful that Ark. team is without him. They have his playbook, his coaches, and his players. They lack his organization, management, and motivation skills. But what do all fans want to know? How many championships has he won? Using BCS titles and or BCS Conference titles as the criteria...if that's the criteria, or is it? I mean we all know, for instance, Urban Meyer and Mark Richt can't coach, right? Stoops same same? Chip Kelly, another guy with a stellar W/L record that sucks, right? Saban isn't coming. Miles isn't coming, and is a clown. Spurrier? Not coming, too old to be in it for the long haul if he did. Can't hire an up and comer, like Coach Boom, cuz that isn't a "home run" and never works ou...wait, what? So, what exactly is the criteria for a "home run hire" again?
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If we hire Petrino the media backlash will be epic it's already starting. :facepalm:
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@JohnKincade: Bobby Petrino is the worst person I have ever dealt with in this business. Auburn is better than him.
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If we hire Petrino the media backlash will be epic it's already starting. :facepalm:
Don't fall for that bullshit. A lot of people in this state don't wanna see him at auburn because they know he will win. Simple as that. People laughed at Bama too for going after saban but they didn't give a shit and did it anyway. Now who is laughing?
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If we hire Petrino the media backlash will be epic it's already starting. :facepalm:
Listened to that interview, he is based out of Atlanta. He is still butt hurt about him leaving the Falcons.
Besides can the media backlash get any worse. After one season of winning it will go away.
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Listened to that interview, he is based out of Atlanta. He is still butt hurt about him leaving the Falcons.
Besides can the media backlash get any worse. After one season of winning it will go away.
Yep just ask Bama around 2009. All that laughing left quickly.
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Listened to that interview, he is based out of Atlanta. He is still butt hurt about him leaving the Falcons.
Besides can the media backlash get any worse. After one season of winning it will go away.
Winning cures all. FACT!
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Yep just ask Bama around 2009. All that laughing left quickly.
I still point and laugh.
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Pictures of Snaggle Naked
I still point and laugh.
FTFY
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I still point and laugh.
Not at the hire I don't. I think he's a piece of shit asshole but Bama nailed that hire. And against a lot of criticism.
I remember all the talk of 3 mill a year divided over 6 wins that first year and all that shit. As soon as the little dwarf started winning that shit stopped. As JR said winning cures a lot of ills. And the same would happen with bmfp. Fucker won 10 games at friggin Louisville and Arky. Look at Arky without him.
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Besides can the media backlash get any worse. After one season of winning it will go away.
Yes it can...and no it won't, if anything, it'll get worse see 2010 (they'll just use different players and they'll throw in a secretary and/or athletic department woman). uat owns the media now, from NY times to ESPN to Sports Talk radio. If they want to blow something out of proportion (mountains & mole hills), they'll do so with a passion...especially if Auburn is winning.
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I don't want Malzahn either.
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bump.....
We might as well go round 2 with this. I am not seeing anyone out there that makes me think this isn't going to be a long process. For some reason and this is just my gut feeling, but I think we keep Eugene until the IB is over and we don't name a coach until after the first of the year. It's going to kill our recruiting if that happens. Now the real question is this, do we keep some of the staff intact to deal with recruiting or do we clean house and lose out on a ton of good players?
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bump.....
We might as well go round 2 with this. I am not seeing anyone out there that makes me think this isn't going to be a long process. For some reason and this is just my gut feeling, but I think we keep Eugene until the IB is over and we don't name a coach until after the first of the year. It's going to kill our recruiting if that happens. Now the real question is this, do we keep some of the staff intact to deal with recruiting or do we clean house and lose out on a ton of good players?
My thoughts are chiz is gone (for god’s sake) no later than after the Iron bowl. The staff is kept intact with the search for the new coach on-going in hopes of hiring that home-run hit that will keep what class we have and see what staff he wants to keep.
Maybe they promote from within (Tropper Taylor) (Just guessing)
Who knows maybe the PTB have to come realize that CGC is the problem not the staff.
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bump.....
We might as well go round 2 with this. I am not seeing anyone out there that makes me think this isn't going to be a long process. For some reason and this is just my gut feeling, but I think we keep Eugene until the IB is over and we don't name a coach until after the first of the year. It's going to kill our recruiting if that happens. Now the real question is this, do we keep some of the staff intact to deal with recruiting or do we clean house and lose out on a ton of good players?
See, that's what scares me. Like I was saying in another thread, the decsion HAS to have already been made. We're a month from the end of the season and if they haven't made the decision to let him go...I really question Dye's....err, the BOT's mental capacitators. If that decison has been made, then they have to be involved in serious discussions with possible replacements. But...this IS Auburn.
Now, The other thing that gripes my grippies is our history of hires. As I've said several times, we have NEVER made the splash hire in any sport. They have never made the deal with the devil and hired a Saban or Spurrier or Meyer etc. He's out there. I'm like AU1. I have this sick feeling it'll take 5-6 weeks after the IB and it will be Coach Sam Huffleslumper from the Eastern North Dakota State Technical College of Fine Arts Flamingos. He's a real up-and-comer.
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See, that's what scares me. Like I was saying in another thread, the decsion HAS to have already been made. We're a month from the end of the season and if they haven't made the decision to let him go...I really question Dye's....err, the BOT's mental capacitators. If that decison has been made, then they have to be involved in serious discussions with possible replacements. But...this IS Auburn.
Now, The other thing that gripes my grippies is our history of hires. As I've said several times, we have NEVER made the splash hire in any sport. They have never made the deal with the devil and hired a Saban or Spurrier or Meyer etc. He's out there. I'm like AU1. I have this sick feeling it'll take 5-6 weeks after the IB and it will be Coach Sam Huffleslumper from the Eastern North Dakota State Technical College of Fine Arts Flamingos. He's a real up-and-comer.
Well let me play Devil's advocate. Outside of Saban and maybe Myer, what other splash hires have there ever been that have done well? I can't think of an, other than Saban. Spurrier has never been the same since leaving UF. Jury is still WAY out on Meyer. Who is the splash hire who does not turn out to be a flash in the pan?
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Well let me play Devil's advocate. Outside of Saban and maybe Myer, what other splash hires have there ever been that have done well? I can't think of an, other than Saban. Spurrier has never been the same since leaving UF. Jury is still WAY out on Meyer. Who is the splash hire who does not turn out to be a flash in the pan?
Stop running with the debil and making sense. When you look at the coaching carousel every year, there really aren't that many changes where you think, "Oh shit. Look out, they're about to take off." It's the usual cast of characters moving around, and for the most part, you're looking at corches from mid majors who seem to have a bright future...like a Hugh Freeze. My idea of a "splash" hire would be a Petrino. Hot name right now and proven success. You know we'd win with him. While the name might not evoke visions of Bill Billycheck or Bill Parcells, the oft mentioned Gary Patterson would be a big time hire in my book.
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And, while I know there is hot and cold attitudes towards hiring this guy, I'd be one in the camp of Gus Malzahn if I knew he'd take the offensive reins and let a Brian Van Gorder or whoever handle the D and stay out of it. Watched his game the other night and said, "Oh look honey, offense."
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Well let me play Devil's advocate. Outside of Saban and maybe Myer, what other splash hires have there ever been that have done well? I can't think of an, other than Saban. Spurrier has never been the same since leaving UF. Jury is still WAY out on Meyer. Who is the splash hire who does not turn out to be a flash in the pan?
It's not the flash that I am looking at. I just want a proven head coach. Talked about this earlier with someone and he said that even though Tubs wasn't a "splash" hire he was stoked about what he was able to do with Ole Miss while they were on probation and it turned out to be a good hire.
That is what I want. I just want someone that has coached at more than one school or at least been successful in building the school he is currently at. Brian Kelly is an example. Did a Good job at grand Valley State and Central Michigan, then did a great job at Cincy and now has ND going in the right direction again. Just give me someone that has proven they can do it.
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It's not the flash that I am looking at. I just want a proven head coach. Talked about this earlier with someone and he said that even though Tubs wasn't a "splash" hire he was stoked about what he was able to do with Ole Miss while they were on probation and it turned out to be a good hire.
That is what I want. I just want someone that has coached at more than one school or at least been successful in building the school he is currently at. Brian Kelly is an example. Did a Good job at grand Valley State and Central Michigan, then did a great job at Cincy and now has ND going in the right direction again. Just give me someone that has proven they can do it.
What did Sam Huffleslumper ever do to you?
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See, that's what scares me. Like I was saying in another thread, the decsion HAS to have already been made. We're a month from the end of the season and if they haven't made the decision to let him go...I really question Dye's....err, the BOT's mental capacitators. If that decison has been made, then they have to be involved in serious discussions with possible replacements. But...this IS Auburn.
Now, The other thing that gripes my grippies is our history of hires. As I've said several times, we have NEVER made the splash hire in any sport. They have never made the deal with the devil and hired a Saban or Spurrier or Meyer etc. He's out there. I'm like AU1. I have this sick feeling it'll take 5-6 weeks after the IB and it will be Coach Sam Huffleslumper from the Eastern North Dakota State Technical College of Fine Arts Flamingos. He's a real up-and-comer.
This is what will most likley happen-Which will make the 2013 class a real down-and-gone class.
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What did Sam Huffleslumper ever do to you?
I have no problems with Huffeslumper, I just don't think he is ready to make that jump from D-III to the SEC.
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I have no problems with Huffeslumper, I just don't think he is ready to make that jump from D-III to the SEC.
Actually, he's the girl's softball coach, but his record is well above .500 over the last year and a half.
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Actually, he's the girl's softball coach, but his record is well above .500 over the last year and a half.
Yeah, but can he put some toughness back into our players?
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Yes I know he's a shithead. He's an asshole.
But Petrino is a big name and he's proven. All I want is a guy that is proven at this level. He and Strong are about the only ones to meet that criteria that we can feasibly get. Fact.
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Yeah, but can he put some toughness back into our players?
Pepper Stanfield, one of his former players, said they were always taught the other team is the enemy once you cross the white chalk.
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Pepper Stanfield, one of his former players, said they were always taught the other team is the enemy once you cross the white chalk.
Go on......
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Yes I know he's a shithead. He's an asshole.
But Petrino is a big name and he's proven.
Yes...or Gary Patterson.
Could get on board with: Strong, Rhoads and Malzahn.
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Yes...or Gary Patterson.
Could get on board with: Strong, Rhoads and Malzahn.
Could get on board with a Petrino, Patterson, Strong or Rhoads hire. I don't really want Gus, I don't fully trust him with only having one year as the head guy but he seems to be doing what is/was expected of him there. Unless he was willing to hire one hell of a DC and let him run his show, then I am still not sold on him.
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Pepper Stanfield, one of his former players, said they were always taught the other team is the enemy once you cross the white chalk.
From teh Googles
PEPPER
STANFIELD
0
people in the U.S. have this name
Why would make up a name? WHY?
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From teh Googles
PEPPER
STANFIELD
0
people in the U.S. have this name
Why would make up a name? WHY?
Makes since why he didn't go into any more detail on that story. Coach Huffeslumper and Eastern North Dakota State Technical College of Fine Arts Flamingos probably is made up as well.
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Makes since why he didn't go into any more detail on that story. Coach Huffeslumper and Eastern North Dakota State Technical College of Fine Arts Flamingos probably is made up as well.
Your words are hurtful
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Your words are hurtful
Your lack of research is alarming. Especially after this last weekend I thought we had bonded.
And now its like I don't know who you are again.
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So, what you're telling me is that Flamingo dance he taught me at the tailgate was bogus? That sonofa...
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Your lack of research is alarming. Especially after this last weekend I thought we had bonded.
And now its like I don't know who you are again.
I thought he cared.
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Yes...or Gary Patterson.
Could get on board with: Strong, Rhoads and Malzahn.
I could go along with that
Petrino Patterson strong Rhodes in that order.
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So, what you're telling me is that Flamingo dance he taught me at the tailgate was bogus? That sonofa...
We did catch a guy telling you he could teach you the Sandusky dance and he would give you a beer if you would follow him into the shower. Luckily we stopped him and got rid of him.
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We did catch a guy telling you he could teach you the Sandusky dance and he would give you a beer if you would follow him into the shower. Luckily we stopped him and got rid of him.
I didn't think VV made it?
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I didn't think VV made it?
This guy kept saying something about patiences and was mumbling Prow something or another.
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I could go along with that
Petrino Patterson strong Rhodes in that order.
I want Petrino NOW! I see no point in keeping Chizik around when everyone has this bad taste in their mouths. I know it won't happen but I want the players, verbals and fanbase to have something to look forward to, not wallow in. And I want our rivals to know we mean business.
We have an interim to nurse us through the final three or four games.
If the high moraled bunch blackballs Petrino we should definitely make a run at Patterson.
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How did going the bible thumper route this last time work out for us? More arrests and issues than I can remember.
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I could go along with that
Petrino Patterson strong Rhodes in that order.
Racist.
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Racist.
Good catch. I chortled a bit.
I guess his was the only one teh iPad didn't recognize as a last name.
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Good catch. I chortled a bit.
I guess his was the only one teh iPad didn't recognize as a last name.
You know ther's no way we can keep GH on the search committee now. You wanna tell him WE?
...Oh fuck I guess I just did.
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I could go along with that
Petrino Patterson strong Rhodes in that order.
You mispelled Tim Jackson.
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You mispelled Tim Jackson.
I'm just glad you've identified the cluster fuck now. Feels better doesn't it?
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I'm just glad you've identified the cluster fuck now. Feels better doesn't it?
Does this guy need a ticket out of town too?
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I wouldn't mind seeing Auburn try to make a run at Kevin Sumlin if we didn't get Petrino. The Wiki says he is from Brewton, Alabama. Maybe he'd like to be back home? Far as I know aTm only pays him around 2 mill a year. Auburn could easily top that.
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Auburn could easily top that.
And so could aTm. They got loads of money and are crazy enough to spend it that way.
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Strong would still be my number 1.
I would add that while a rumor I don't believe, Jimbo Fisher would also be a splash hire and one that I would be on board with as well.
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Strong would still be my number 1.
I would add that while a rumor I don't believe, Jimbo Fisher would also be a splash hire and one that I would be on board with as well.
I can't get on board with the Jimbo rumor.....to me he has underachieved in a weak conference, with according to all services with superior talent. Seems like he loses some games he is not supposed to. Personally I wouldn't like the hire.
Petrino, Strong, Patterson or Rhodes is my short list. Give me any one of those four and I would be a happy man.
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Give me Bill Belichick and I'll be happy, anything short of him, I'll boo at the airport.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Auburn try to make a run at Kevin Sumlin if we didn't get Petrino. The Wiki says he is from Brewton, Alabama. Maybe he'd like to be back home? Far as I know aTm only pays him around 2 mill a year. Auburn could easily top that.
So, you want to bring the Air Raid offense to Auburn?
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I can't get on board with the Jimbo rumor.....to me he has underachieved in a weak conference, with according to all services with superior talent. Seems like he loses some games he is not supposed to. Personally I wouldn't like the hire.
Petrino, Strong, Patterson or Rhodes is my short list. Give me any one of those four and I would be a happy man.
-cosigned.
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So, you want to bring the Air Raid offense to Auburn?
I thought the same thing. For years, Houston could run up the score but could not stop anyone. We all wondered if that would work in the SEC. If KS can get a defense, his offense looks pretty good.
But I still say it would not work at AU with the current QB (not named Wallace) and the current defense.
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I can't get on board with the Jimbo rumor.....to me he has underachieved in a weak conference, with according to all services with superior talent. Seems like he loses some games he is not supposed to. Personally I wouldn't like the hire.
I can argue the same things about Petrino.
Fisher is 27–9 in year 3 which believe it or not was a rebuilding project after Bowden.
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I can argue the same things about Petrino.
Fisher is 27–9 in year 3 which believe it or not was a rebuilding project after Bowden.
What is your thoughts on Jimbo bringing Craig with him?
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I do not want Jimbo Fisher or Petrino. Let it be known, so it shall be...
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I do not want Jimbo Fisher or Petrino. Let it be known, so it shall be...
Well...fuck you.
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I can argue the same things about Petrino.
Fisher is 27–9 in year 3 which believe it or not was a rebuilding project after Bowden.
Not as high on Petrino either. Loses some games he shouldn't. Remember a couple of years ago after beating Auburn and losing by 3 to #1UF he gets his ass kicked by Ole Miss? Was ranked #9 at Louisville, lost to South Florida by 30+?
Of course, Chiz loses every game, so it will still be an improvement.
Plus, I'm not going to beat anybody over the head and tell them to read the creed or anything, but the man is slimy. Do you really think if he turns Auburn around in two seasons he wouldn't jump ship in two seconds if Texas or Oklahoma or the right NFL team (though I think that ship has sailed) came calling with hand fulls of cash? He just strikes me as a disloyal, out for number 1 asshole. If we hired him I would cheer for him, and I would defend the hire to Bammer's and their ilk, but I still think Patterson or Strong would be the better choice, both on the field and off it.
But Petrino would still win a whole lotta games.
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So, you want to bring the Air Raid offense to Auburn?
I certainly wouldn't be against it. However, anything would top the abortion we've seen the last couple of years on offense, so its not something I'm dead set on. I also wonder how much of that Aggie O is Sumlin and how much of it is Kingsberry. If we hired a defensive minded HC again, I wouldn't mind seeing him get some strong consideration for OC.
Idealy though, I'd obviously like to see BMFP calling the plays. I think Auburn's personnel would fit his offense to a tee.
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Count me in the camp of an offensive-minded HC. Those are much less likely to meddle with the defensive side of the ball. It seems defensive-minded HCs always want to get their pud skinners in the offense and that often leads to FAIL.
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Well...fuck you.
I was just saying. They don't listen to me, no one listens to me!
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I can argue the same things about Petrino.
Fisher is 27–9 in year 3 which believe it or not was a rebuilding project after Bowden.
What is petrinos record the last three years? How many teams did he lose to where the other team had inferior talent?
Fsu > arky.
Petrino got more out of his players. The acc is a joke.
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I do not want Jimbo Fisher or Petrino. Let it be known, so it shall be...
No arguments from me
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Not as high on Petrino either. Loses some games he shouldn't. Remember a couple of years ago after beating Auburn and losing by 3 to #1UF he gets his ass kicked by Ole Miss? Was ranked #9 at Louisville, lost to South Florida by 30+?
Of course, Chiz loses every game, so it will still be an improvement.
Plus, I'm not going to beat anybody over the head and tell them to read the creed or anything, but the man is slimy. Do you really think if he turns Auburn around in two seasons he wouldn't jump ship in two seconds if Texas or Oklahoma or the right NFL team (though I think that ship has sailed) came calling with hand fulls of cash? He just strikes me as a disloyal, out for number 1 asshole. If we hired him I would cheer for him, and I would defend the hire to Bammer's and their ilk, but I still think Patterson or Strong would be the better choice, both on the field and off it.
But Petrino would still win a whole lotta games.
Great. You just picked out two games his entire career. Off with his head.
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I can argue the same things about Petrino.
Fisher is 27–9 in year 3 which believe it or not was a rebuilding project after Bowden.
Sorta going with what GH said. Petrino has lost some games that he shouldn't have, but at Louisville and Arkansas, he didn't have the talent that Jimbo has at FSU. It could be said about all coaches though. I just think Jimbo should have won at least 1 ACC title by now.
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Sorta going with what GH said. Petrino has lost some games that he shouldn't have, but at Louisville and Arkansas, he didn't have the talent that Jimbo has at FSU. It could be said about all coaches though. I just think Jimbo should have won at least 1 ACC title by now.
He probably will this year.
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He probably will this year.
Would make me feel a lot better about him.
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Would make me feel a lot better about him.
Again though year 3 and his program has gotten better each year.
I do not really want him mind you, just playing devils advocate to the whole Petrino is everything group.
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Great. You just picked out two games his entire career. Off with his head.
And he's a slimy asshole who looks out for #1. Don't forget that part.
And he stampeded cattle through the Vatican, pretty sure I heard that somewhere.
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And he stampeded cattle through the Vatican, pretty sure I heard that somewhere.
Pretty sure Danny Sheridan can confirm that from his sources.
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Great. You just picked out two games his entire career. Off with his head.
I remember this coach at LSU that lost to UAB at home. Then he lost to Louisiana Monroe at this one school....I can't remember his name, but he is a shitacular coach. One of the worst.
And he's a slimy asshole who looks out for #1. Don't forget that part.
And he stampeded cattle through the Vatican, pretty sure I heard that somewhere.
How do we know that for sure? How do we know that maybe he realizes this is his last chance and he has to do what is right or no other team will be willing to take a chance on him? I would venture that he wants to make this go around right and prove to people he isn't as bad as we make him out to be.
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Again though year 3 and his program has gotten better each year.
I do not really want him mind you, just playing devils advocate to the whole Petrino is everything group.
Petrino is not my end all be all. Like I said give me one of him, Strong, Patterson or Rhoades and I am a happy man.
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And he's a slimy asshole who looks out for #1. Don't forget that part.
And he stampeded cattle through the Vatican, pretty sure I heard that somewhere.
So you're cherry picking professional reasons to justify your personal disdain for him? I wish a lot of auburn fans would just admit this. I could careless if he looks out for Godzilla as #1 personally if he wins games and runs a successful program. And he has done just that at 2 places.
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Maybe I missed something, but I don't really understand the disloyal angle on Petrino. He was at Louisville for 4 years and left for the NFL. After the 2010 season, if the Atlanta Falcons offered Chizik a job, you bet your ass he would have been gone too. Alot of college coaches would be. Maybe it comes from how he left Atlanta? I suppose, but I think he realized he was in over his head and had an out back to college. I can't really blame him there. He was at Arky for 4 years and would have been there for 5. He got caught in a lie about fucking some chick other than his wife. While I don't necessarily approve of that, who really gives a fuck?
I'm not necessarily saying he's the perfect coach for AU, just not understanding that whole side of the argument against him.
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Lord Saybinz lost to Utah, La. Monroe and UAB. Shit happens
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Maybe I missed something, but I don't really understand the disloyal angle on Petrino. He was at Louisville for 4 years and left for the NFL. After the 2010 season, if the Atlanta Falcons offered Chizik a job, you bet your ass he would have been gone too. Alot of college coaches would be. Maybe it comes from how he left Atlanta? I suppose, but I think he realized he was in over his head and had an out back to college. I can't really blame him there. He was at Arky for 4 years and would have been there for 5. He got caught in a lie about fucking some chick other than his wife. While I don't necessarily approve of that, who really gives a fuck?
I'm not necessarily saying he's the perfect coach for AU, just not understanding that whole side of the argument against him.
Whom he hired, and was working underneath him (pun intended) and then tried to cover it up including police involvement.
There is more then just fucking someone else to the story. My problem with him is his looking out for number #1 attitude, fucked his team over. I have a problem with that. I could give a shit he cheated on his wife, that's his issue...but it affected his team, and as fans that becomes our issue.
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And he stampeded cattle through the Vatican, pretty sure I heard that somewhere.
Kinky.
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Kinky.
Kelly?
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Would you take Lord Saybinz as your Corch?
Can you say "Candy Edwards"?
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Would you take Lord Saybinz as your Corch?
Can you say "Candy Edwards"?
Boom.
Just judging by Auburn's past 20 years, one of the main reason I want Bobby Petrino as Auburn's HC is QBs. Almost every good football team Auburn has had in the last 20 years (my standards are 6-2 or better in conference or/and SECCG appearance), we've had solid QB play. White in '93, Nix in '94, Craig in '97, Leard in 2000, Campbell in 2002 and 2004, Cox in '05 and '06, Cam in 2012. That position correlates to winning more than any position on the field. Cox's '06 season and Leard's 2000 were probably the only 2 years Auburn didn't have strong QB play and go onto have great seasons. There is no denying QB play is by far the most glaring weakness on this team which is saying a fucking mouthfull.
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So you're cherry picking professional reasons to justify your personal disdain for him? I wish a lot of auburn fans would just admit this. I could careless if he looks out for Godzilla as #1 personally if he wins games and runs a successful program. And he has done just that at 2 places.
I did admit it, I said he's slimy and an asshole. But that also doesn't mean that I can't think he under performs sometimes. The man puts up gaudy numbers on offense, but he's lost some games because his defenses sometimes let the other teams run up and down the field at will. Get the sand out of your vagina. I said I would cheer for Auburn and support him if he was hired, but there are guys who have won who didn't try to stab their former boss in the back and have shown better judgement off the field.
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I thought the same thing. For years, Houston could run up the score but could not stop anyone. We all wondered if that would work in the SEC. If KS can get a defense, his offense looks pretty good.
But I still say it would not work at AU with the current QB (not named Wallace) and the current defense.
This is the offense that most of the folks on this board say "won't work in the SEC". Furthermore, look what happened when they played La Tech. No defense. I didn't used to feel this way, but the evidence is compelling that you can't run a HUNH Spread, and also have a dominant, or even a very good Def. I can't tell you why, but there just seems to be no way to do it. I don't think it's a matter of having a good DC either. They simply don't go hand in hand. I love offense, but not at the expense of defense.
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I did admit it, I said he's slimy and an asshole. But that also doesn't mean that I can't think he under performs sometimes. The man puts up gaudy numbers on offense, but he's lost some games because his defenses sometimes let the other teams run up and down the field at will. Get the sand out of your vagina. I said I would cheer for Auburn and support him if he was hired, but there are guys who have won who didn't try to stab their former boss in the back and have shown better judgement off the field.
I believe you're the one bitchin about coaching options. Go ahead and get Chucky and Stoops on the line and let me know their thoughts about coming here. Petrino and Strong are the best two available (meaning we can feasibly get them) and are both proven at this level. It's that simple.
He's rarely lost to a team that wasn't vastly superior in talent. He has beat more teams that he shouldnt have than he's lost to that he should've beat.
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This is the offense that most of the folks on this board say "won't work in the SEC". Furthermore, look what happened when they played La Tech. No defense. I didn't used to feel this way, but the evidence is compelling that you can't run a HUNH Spread, and also have a dominant, or even a very good Def. I can't tell you why, but there just seems to be no way to do it. I don't think it's a matter of having a good DC either. They simply don't go hand in hand. I love offense, but not at the expense of defense.
Two words:
BALL CONTROL!
The less a defense is on the field, the better. With the HUNH, defense is on the field A LOT!
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Two words:
BALL CONTROL!
The less a defense is on the field, the better. With the HUNH, defense is on the field A LOT!
That's probably a huge factor.
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This is the offense that most of the folks on this board say "won't work in the SEC". Furthermore, look what happened when they played La Tech. No defense. I didn't used to feel this way, but the evidence is compelling that you can't run a HUNH Spread, and also have a dominant, or even a very good Def. I can't tell you why, but there just seems to be no way to do it. I don't think it's a matter of having a good DC either. They simply don't go hand in hand. I love offense, but not at the expense of defense.
I agree.
To me though the spread or whatever you want to call it can be unstoppable and can work anywhere if you have the right QB to run it. I just think you have to hit it just right though, and turning over players every 3-4 years and you can be screwed real quick.
I think the problem you run into in the SEC is that defenses are so stout and have fresh legs rotating all the time that it is harder to be successful long term with the offense. The spread getting stopped one time and having a shitacular defense can cause a loss.
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Top 25 teams in total defense as of this week. I think the key in the argument is running a true HUNH. Don't know what every team on the list runs but there are a lot of them that spread you out. The two teams AU has played that run what I consider a true "Hurry up" are Clemson and aTm. They run it at a pace that I think does put your D at risk since they actually hurry to the line and try to get the play off before the defense can get in their stances. To me, there's a big difference in a team not huddling, coming to the line and getting their play from the sidelines. Yes, it's probably run at a quicker pace overall, but I think one of the big intents of that style is to not allow substitution by the D.
Alabama
Florida St.
LSU
BYU
Michigan St.
Florida
Maryland
Bowling Green
Michigan
Connecticut
Notre Dame
Texas Tech
South Carolina
Rutgers
Boise St.
Wisconsin
Oklahoma
Western Ky.
Utah St.
Arizona St.
Vanderbilt
Penn St.
TCU
Fresno St.
Missouri
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And whoever asked if it was really Kingsbury or Sumlin's offense. Sumlin was Kingsbury's OC for his Jr. and Sr. years at Tx. Tech. This is Sumlin's interpretation of the Mumme/Leach Air Raid with input from Kingsbury. Same as Holgorsen is doing with his own twists and adaptations, same same Franklin. Base philosophy is the same. Pass first, go fast.
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I agree.
To me though the spread or whatever you want to call it can be unstoppable and can work anywhere if you have the right QB to run it. I just think you have to hit it just right though, and turning over players every 3-4 years and you can be screwed real quick.
I think the problem you run into in the SEC is that defenses are so stout and have fresh legs rotating all the time that it is harder to be successful long term with the offense. The spread getting stopped one time and having a shitacular defense can cause a loss.
As to paragraph one...It can work anywhere, if you have talent that can compete with your competition. The second part of that thought, though, every offense has to deal with turnover. The key is coaching it, evolving it, and tweaking to fit variations is talent sets. Sumlin, for instance, doesn't really look to be a QB run type team, but he's letting Johnny Football do his thing, within the context of the overall philosophy. Not trying to fit a square peg in a round hole if you will.
Agree with paragraph 2. I'll even add, that you can have a just a moderately off day on offense, and have a shittastic D cost you a game.
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Top 25 teams in total defense as of this week. I think the key in the argument is running a true HUNH. Don't know what every team on the list runs but there are a lot of them that spread you out. The two teams AU has played that run what I consider a true "Hurry up" are Clemson and aTm. They run it at a pace that I think does put your D at risk since they actually hurry to the line and try to get the play off before the defense can get in their stances. To me, there's a big difference in a team not huddling, coming to the line and getting their play from the sidelines. Yes, it's probably run at a quicker pace overall, but I think one of the big intents of that style is to not allow substitution by the D.
Alabama
Florida St.
LSU
BYU
Michigan St.
Florida
Maryland
Bowling Green
Michigan
Connecticut
Notre Dame
Texas Tech
South Carolina
Rutgers
Boise St.
Wisconsin
Oklahoma
Western Ky.
Utah St.
Arizona St.
Vanderbilt
Penn St.
TCU
Fresno St.
Missouri
Other than Texas Tech (numbers inflated due to early weak competition) I don't think there's a true HUNH offense in that bunch.
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And whoever asked if it was really Kingsbury or Sumlin's offense. Sumlin was Kingsbury's OC for his Jr. and Sr. years at Tx. Tech. This is Sumlin's interpretation of the Mumme/Leach Air Raid with input from Kingsbury. Same as Holgorsen is doing with his own twists and adaptations, same same Franklin. Base philosophy is the same. Pass first, go fast.
I thought it was Kliff Slingsbury. And Sumlin coached at TT?
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I thought it was Kliff Slingsbury. And Sumlin coached at TT?
No, I made a mistake there.
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He coached at aTm before, hired Kingsbury while at Houston. Got my facts mixed up in my head and didn't check them.
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His exposure to the Mumme/Leach stuff came while he was at Oklahoma in the early 2000s, when they were still running a great deal of Leach's stuff. And of course, Kingsbury brings his own flavor to it.
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I love those Kingsbury Chocolate Bunnies at Easter.
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I love those Kingsbury Chocolate Bunnies at Easter.
:bugs:
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I said I would cheer for Auburn and support him if he was hired, but there are guys who have won who didn't try to stab their former boss in the back and have shown better judgement in their career decisions and also off the field.
This, slightly fixt. CBMFP would get no personal love from me like Chiz does, and I don't care how many hot leather jackets he wore... The man is a slime ball. If that's who Auburn's PTB choose, then fine - I am still an Auburn girl - but damn... tough to accept without feeling like we sold our souls for wins.
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So how will Petrino and Loeffler get along after the hire? Aren't their offenses a little different from each other? I think Petrino likes to really hammer the ball between the tackles, doesn't he?
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So how will Petrino and Loeffler get along after the hire? Aren't their offenses a little different from each other? I think Petrino likes to really hammer the ball between the tackles score points, doesn't he?
Fixt
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This, slightly fixt. CBMFP would get no personal love from me like Chiz does, and I don't care how many hot leather jackets he wore... The man is a slime ball. If that's who Auburn's PTB choose, then fine - I am still an Auburn girl - but damn... tough to accept without feeling like we sold our souls for wins.
No matter what we do, it's gonna feel like a failed marriage.
Do we go out and get a rebound ho (CBP)? Or do we look for a new mate?
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No matter what we do, it's gonna feel like a failed marriage.
Do we go out and get a rebound ho (CBP)? Or do we look for a new mate?
Rebound ho can be some gooood pussy
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Rebound ho can be some gooood pussy
Until the crazy comes out and you wake up one morning with your half your money gone and a picture of her with your toothbrush up her butt.
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Until the crazy comes out and you wake up one morning with your half your money gone and a picture of her with your toothbrush up her butt.
There are websites that will buy that from you. So it's not all a loss.
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Until the crazy comes out and you wake up one morning with your half your money gone and a picture of her with your toothbrush up her butt.
What do you have against clean assholes?
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What do you have against clean assholes?
Her farts were minty fresh, but from what I understand only 4 out of 5 proctologists agree with cleaning that deeply.
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What do you have against clean assholes?
Don't be a yuck butt cuz you don't brush.
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Kelly?
Seth?
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/kinky_seth.jpg)
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Until the crazy comes out and you wake up one morning with your half your money gone and a picture of her with your toothbrush up her butt.
All of them have crazy in them. It's only a matter of degree.
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All of them have crazy in them. It's only a matter of degree.
Truer words have never been uttered.
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All of them have crazy in them. It's only a matter of degree.
Snakes in dey hedz?
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No matter what we do, it's gonna feel like a failed marriage.
Do we go out and get a rebound ho (CBP)? Or do we look for a new mate?
You know, this is actually a very good analogy. In this metaphor, fucking = winning and Petrino = the whore.
It is a must to follow up the break up of a stable relationship with the rebound ho. You go from one good girl to the next, and you'll go insane and probably ruin the whole thing anyway by trying to stir the good girls' collards almost immediately into the relationship. Setting expectations impossibly high. No, what you need after that bitch made your life hell is a chick that looks, acts, and most importantly, fucks like a porn star. You want people to know that you are getting the satisfaction you need. You want them to be insanely jealous, even if they won't outwardly admit it. Even if they tell their wives they appreciate them for doing things "the right way", you just know they would kill to break off a piece a slut like the one you're banging. Now, this can't go on forever, mind you, but if you don't at least get it out of the way, you'll feel like you missed out on an opportunity. You certainly won't regret it. It will build you as a person, will serve as the pick-me-up you needed to pick up the pieces of your former life and move the fuck on. As soon as the slutbag does something you're not a fan of, kick her to the curb. No emotional baggage. But now you're ready and will have the patience necessary to build a relationship that might last for the long haul. But as for the here and now, you're not ready for that yet. You've just been through a lot. You need to prove, if even just to yourself, that you've still got it while you've got the chance.
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You know, this is actually a very good analogy. In this metaphor, fucking = winning and Petrino = the whore.
It is a must to follow up the break up of a stable relationship with the rebound ho. You go from one good girl to the next, and you'll go insane and probably ruin the whole thing anyway by trying to stir the good girls' collards almost immediately into the relationship. Setting expectations impossibly high. No, what you need after that bitch made your life hell is a chick that looks, acts, and most importantly, fucks like a porn star. You want people to know that you are getting the satisfaction you need. You want them to be insanely jealous, even if they won't outwardly admit it. Even if they tell their wives they appreciate them for doing things "the right way", you just know they would kill to break off a piece a slut like the one you're banging. Now, this can't go on forever, mind you, but if you don't at least get it out of the way, you'll feel like you missed out on an opportunity. You certainly won't regret it. It will build you as a person, will serve as the pick-me-up you needed to pick up the pieces of your former life and move the fuck on. As soon as the slutbag does something you're not a fan of, kick her to the curb. No emotional baggage. But now you're ready and will have the patience necessary to build a relationship that might last for the long haul. But as for the here and now, you're not ready for that yet. You've just been through a lot. You need to prove, if even just to yourself, that you've still got it while you've got the chance.
I'll put you down as a vote on the "rebound ho (CBP)" side then?
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Seth?
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/kinky_seth.jpg)
That's pretty epic.
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You know, this is actually a very good analogy. In this metaphor, fucking = winning and Petrino = the whore.
It is a must to follow up the break up of a stable relationship with the rebound ho. You go from one good girl to the next, and you'll go insane and probably ruin the whole thing anyway by trying to stir the good girls' collards almost immediately into the relationship. Setting expectations impossibly high. No, what you need after that bitch made your life hell is a chick that looks, acts, and most importantly, fucks like a porn star. You want people to know that you are getting the satisfaction you need. You want them to be insanely jealous, even if they won't outwardly admit it. Even if they tell their wives they appreciate them for doing things "the right way", you just know they would kill to break off a piece a slut like the one you're banging. Now, this can't go on forever, mind you, but if you don't at least get it out of the way, you'll feel like you missed out on an opportunity. You certainly won't regret it. It will build you as a person, will serve as the pick-me-up you needed to pick up the pieces of your former life and move the fuck on. As soon as the slutbag does something you're not a fan of, kick her to the curb. No emotional baggage. But now you're ready and will have the patience necessary to build a relationship that might last for the long haul. But as for the here and now, you're not ready for that yet. You've just been through a lot. You need to prove, if even just to yourself, that you've still got it while you've got the chance.
Coach Chizik could've been the â€rebound ho†that had a lot of snakes in the head, after the long relationship with steady-eddy Coach Tuberville.
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So was Shula Bama's ho? Or was that Mike Price? Is Les Miles LSU's ho?
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So was Shula Bama's ho? Or was that Mike Price? Is Les Miles LSU's ho?
Dubose, in this context. He won games, which made the updyke administration turn a blind eye to his hobby of secretary banging.
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So was Shula Bama's ho? Or was that Mike Price? Is Les Miles LSU's ho?
In hindsight, Alabama was lucky to get Shula, given the timing and situation. He's not a horrible coach, and it could have been worse.
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In hindsight, Alabama was lucky to get Shula, given the timing and situation. He's not a horrible coach, and it could have been worse.
Talk about hindsight...
Had Richrod (spread) accepted at Alabama the landscape would be very different for us all.
*Mal Moore would have been sent to pasture.
Auburn doesn't play for the MNC because Turner Gill never saw Cam Newton.
Chip Kelly "they're so fast" might be playing for his 4th MNC.
Nick Saban might be the DC for Pete Carroll in Seattle right about now.
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Talk about hindsight...
Had Richrod (spread) accepted at Alabama the landscape would be very different for us all.
*Mal Moore would have been sent to pasture.
Auburn doesn't play for the MNC because Turner Gill never saw Cam Newton.
Chip Kelly "they're so fast" might be playing for his 4th MNC.
Nick Saban might be the DC for Pete Carroll in Seattle right about now.
And houndstooth sombreros would be the hat of choice for tens of thousands of morons across this state.