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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on February 06, 2011, 09:41:17 AM
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Scarbinsky: Alabama's don't-tell policy hurts Saban's oversigning defense.. Reply
Published: Sunday, February 06, 2011, 7:13 AM
By Kevin Scarbinsky, Birmingham News
Nick Saban used a portion of his signing day press conference to defend himself on the issues of oversigning and grayshirting. Interesting.
Is he so misunderstood that he felt the need to tell his side of the story? Or was this the perfect example that the best defense is to go on the attack?
Oversigning has become as much a part of Saban's persona as talking with his hands. He's not the only one who does it. He's just more famous for it than any other college coach in the country.
I know. The well-meaning but ineffective SEC rule capping signing classes at 28, which has gone national, is known as the Houston Nutt rule. But Nutt doesn't use his extra signees to help win championships.
Saban does.
Perhaps the most intriguing part of Saban's oversigning soliloquy involved him telling us that we don't know what we're talking about. Literally.
"Nobody really knows how many guys we had on scholarship last year, but we didn't have 85," he said. "I can tell you that."
Allow me to translate. According to Saban, those of us on the outside of the Alabama program can't criticize him for oversigning because we don't know the exact number of players he has on scholarship from year to year.
Funny thing about that. Why don't we know? Alabama won't tell us, even though we ask every year.
Birmingham News colleague Jon Solomon requests a copy of the annual NCAA revenue and expense report from every Division I athletics department in the state. One of the categories on that report is number of student-athletes on scholarship in each varsity sport.
Every Division I public school in this state provides us a copy of those reports. Only Alabama blacks out the scholarship numbers for every sport.
We know from the latest form that Alabama reported spending $3,041,356 on football scholarships for the 2009-10 academic year. We don't know how many players Alabama reported having on scholarship that year.
The News has asked Alabama several times to explain why it withholds information we believe is a public record. The heart of the explanation, from university spokesperson Deborah Lane: "Federal privacy laws prevent the University from providing the media with personally identifiable information related to its students."
Excuse me, but what? The NCAA form doesn't include the names of players on scholarship. Just the numbers. Besides, if Alabama considers it a potential privacy violation to release the number of football players on scholarship, why does the school announce the names of its signees every year?
Alabama's argument is inconsistent with its own practice.
Saban took issue with the numbers used by the media, but his school refuses to provide the actual numbers that could - if they're on his side - undercut the argument from critics of his roster management.
Why does Alabama refuse to provide information that every other Division I public school in this state provides? Why doesn't Saban himself step up and share the numbers that other coaches volunteer?
On Signing Day, Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald provided this information: "We have 85 scholarships, we had 17 to give and we're at 85 right now."
See? Is that so hard? Fitzgerald was open about his numbers even though Northwestern is a private school not bound by the same federal privacy laws as public schools.
The SEC may have left the Big Ten behind on the field - oversigning does work - but the Big Ten long ago took the high road when it comes to making Signing Day something to celebrate, not investigate.
If a Big Ten school oversigns, it has to explain to the conference office how it will have a scholarship available when those extra signees hit campus. Banking on a certain number of players to create their own exit strategies before fall camp doesn't cut it.
Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said he encourages parents of recruits to "go back and look at the numbers that schools sign. I do think it's telling."
That's a problem for Saban in trying to defend his signing practices. When it comes to the most basic information on the subject, Alabama's not telling.
There's not much incentive to change. As much as he dislikes recruiting rankings, Saban can point to another number as bottom-line justification. According to Rivals, he just signed, or oversigned, the No. 1 class in the country once again.
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100% pure douchenozzle.
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Pawl, whut do we gotta do to git him fard? He caint talk abowt Nick thataway. Ah'll hang up an lissen.
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Pawl, whut do we gotta do to git him fard? He caint talk abowt Nick thataway. Ah'll hang up an lissen.
:classic:
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SPuat still has move around 9 players to bring in their 23 prospects (LaMichael Fanning isn't going to qualify).
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SPuat still has move around 9 players to bring in their 23 prospects (LaMichael Fanning isn't going to qualify).
Carswell and Love are both greyshirts. So, make that 7. That is, IF we were at 85 last season. Which, supposedly, we ended up at 83 or 84.
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Carswell and Love are both greyshirts. So, make that 7. That is, IF we were at 85 last season. Which, supposedly, we ended up at 83 or 84.
Carswell and Love are gaining scholarships this year. They go towards the 85. SPuat's bringing in 21 + the 2 Greyshirts this year = 23. SPuat had 9 Scholarship SRs, 3 JRs left early, 2 players either transferred or Medical. So, that leaves SPuat with 14 opening to somehow squeeze 23 players into.
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Carswell and Love are gaining scholarships this year. They go towards the 85. SPuat's bringing in 21 + the 2 Greyshirts this year = 23. SPuat had 9 Scholarship SRs, 3 JRs left early, 2 players either transferred or Medical. So, that leaves SPuat with 14 opening to somehow squeeze 23 players into.
I call bullshit. You cannot know more than Lord Saybinz.
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One thing is certain. Prowler knows his Bama football.
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One thing is certain. Prowler knows his Bama football.
Insert a Snagglepuss snicker here, hehehehehe.
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One thing is certain. Prowler knows his Bama football.
I keep up....it's kinda hard not to when 3-4 players go down with "injuries" and the medical staff is forced to lie to the NCAA about their injuries or forcing kids to leave school, after they're already on campus, just so another kid can come play. I kinda see that as being a little fuckin' cocksucker that can't play by the same rules and that it isn't fair to the kids that believed all of the bullshit coming outta the fuckin' midget's face.
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I keep up....it's kinda hard not to when 3-4 players go down with "injuries" and the medical staff is forced to lie to the NCAA about their injuries or forcing kids to leave school, after they're already on campus, just so another kid can come play. I kinda see that as being a little fuckin' cocksucker that can't play by the same rules and that it isn't fair to the kids that believed all of the bullshit coming outta the fuckin' midget's face.
So, you're saying you don't go to the bammer forums for yo info?
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Bama
2008: 32
2009: 27
2010: 26
2011: 22
107
Auburn
2008: 28
2009: 28
2010: 32
2011: 24
112
I keep up....it's kinda hard not to when 3-4 players go down with "injuries" and the medical staff is forced to lie to the NCAA about their injuries or forcing kids to leave school, after they're already on campus, just so another kid can come play. I kinda see that as being a little fuckin' cocksucker that can't play by the same rules and that it isn't fair to the kids that believed all of the bullshit coming outta the fuckin' midget's face.
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Bama
2008: 32
2009: 27
2010: 26
2011: 22
107
Auburn
2008: 28
2009: 28
2010: 32
2011: 24
112
:haha:
Auburn was down to 68 Scholarship players in '09. So, suck on that chicken fucker.
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Auburn was down to 68 Scholarship players in '09. So, suck on that chicken fucker.
Actually this close to truth. I thought it was closer to 72 but whatever.
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Auburn was down to 68 Scholarship players in '09. So, suck on that chicken fucker.
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Auburn was down to 68 Scholarship players in '09. So, suck on that chicken fucker.
Oh, Token's in trouble meow.
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Oh, Token's in trouble meow.
The most appropriate response for me would have been to ask him WHY Auburn was down to 68 scholarships.
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We were right at 71 before Harry Adams ('09), Tyrik Rollison (when Cam Newton stepped on campus) & Donte ManMeat (when Mike Dyer stepped foot on campus) all left the team. So yeah, you're correct simp, we were 70 strong for most of the '09 season. That's before the Seniors graduated and before Tyrik & ManMeat left. CTT's recruiting efforts towards the end of his career might have well been the NCAA Hammer.
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Carswell and Love are both greyshirts. So, make that 7. That is, IF we were at 85 last season. Which, supposedly, we ended up at 83 or 84.
You do realize that people like you are why Hitler was able to come into power and commit the atrocities that occurred during his rule, right?
News report: "He sent 500 to the concentration camps!"
R(eich)WS: He really only sent 130. The other 370 were volunteers and told beforehand what their accomodations would be. IF we are talking about the last train out, supposedly there was a train two days before, but nobody saw the actual manifest. I heard that 183 were on that train but they won't count against the total since you can cram three to a bunk if you don't feed them for five or six weeks. They don't much like to eat, so it's cool.
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CTT's recruiting efforts towards the end of his career might have well been the NCAA Hammer.
A hearty FUCK YOU!
Signed,
Nick Fairley
Darvin Adams
Ontario McCaleb
Ryan Pugh
Lee Ziemba
Kodi Burns
Josh Bynes
T'Sharvan Bell
Wes Byrum
Phillip Lutzenkirchen
et al.
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Is that Jesus or Grizzly Adams in your avatar, JR?
:bc: or :classic:
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A hearty FUCK YOU!
Signed,
Nick Fairley
Darvin Adams
Ontario McCaleb
Ryan Pugh
Lee Ziemba
Kodi Burns
Josh Bynes
T'Sharvan Bell
Wes Byrum
Phillip Lutzenkirchen
et al.
Nick Fairley
Ontarrio McCalebb
Phillip Lutzenkirchen
Signed with Coach Chizik.
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Nick Fairley
Ontarrio McCalebb
Phillip Lutzenkirchen
Signed with Coach Chizik.
All three made their decision under Tuberville, you fucking retard. They reaffirmed to Chizik.
TUBERVILLE recruited them to Auburn. Chizik convinced them to stay after he got there.
I will never understand why your fourth grade mind is incapable of giving Tuberville credit for what he achieved. It's all a part of the bigger picture, something you simply can't or won't see.
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All three made their decision under Tuberville, you fucking retard. They reaffirmed to Chizik.
TUBERVILLE recruited them to Auburn. Chizik convinced them to stay after he got there.
I will never understand why your fourth grade mind is incapable of giving Tuberville credit for what he achieved. It's all a part of the bigger picture, something you simply can't or won't see.
Fuck you cocksucker, I don't understand why it is, whenever someone has a negative opinion on CTT, you have to do everything you can to try and refute whatever it is that's being talked about. Coach Tuberville was great, but he left Auburn in a hole worse than a three year, NCAA mandated, scholarship ban of 5-10 less scholarships a year. You're the fucking blind dumbass that just cannot seem to grasp that. As I'll say again, CTT did great things at Auburn, but he left the team with no depth across the board.
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You do realize that people like you are why Hitler was able to come into power and commit the atrocities that occurred during his rule, right?
News report: "He sent 500 to the concentration camps!"
R(eich)WS: He really only sent 130. The other 370 were volunteers and told beforehand what their accomodations would be. IF we are talking about the last train out, supposedly there was a train two days before, but nobody saw the actual manifest. I heard that 183 were on that train but they won't count against the total since you can cram three to a bunk if you don't feed them for five or six weeks. They don't much like to eat, so it's cool.
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he left Auburn in a hole worse than a three year, NCAA mandated, scholarship ban of 5-10 less scholarships a year.
I'm guessing you took down the 1993 Terry Bowden Coach of the Year print?
(http://www.newlifeart.com/detail_pencil/Daniel_A__Moore/Other_Schools/Terry_Bowden/terrybowden.jpg)
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I'm guessing you took down the 1993 Terry Bowden Coach of the Year print?
(http://www.newlifeart.com/detail_pencil/Daniel_A__Moore/Other_Schools/Terry_Bowden/terrybowden.jpg)
In all seriousness, if anyone does want that, I saw it in the antique shop in Homewood next to Saw's BBQ and New York Pizza.
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In all seriousness, if anyone does want that, I saw it in the antique shop in Homewood next to Saw's BBQ and New York Pizza.
Why would I want a picture of wes4au?
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Oh, Token's in trouble meow.
I'm sorry are you saying meow?
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Why would I want a picture of wes4au?
Because its life size and you could probably get him to autograph it for pretty cheap?
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Because its life size and you could probably get him to autograph it for pretty cheap?
Now THAT'S how you spos'd to smack! From now on, THAT'S HOW YOU SMACK!
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I'm sorry are you saying meow?
Don't think boy. Meow, do you know how fast you were going?
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I could have sworn you said meow.
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Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree?
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Now THAT'S how you spos'd to smack! From now on, THAT'S HOW YOU SMACK!
Why... why are you yelling at me?
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Why... why are you yelling at me?
And.... back to fail.
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And.... back to fail.
Make me a bicycle, clown!
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Make me a bicycle, clown!
Okay. You're a bicycle.
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Now THAT'S how you spos'd to smack! From now on, THAT'S HOW YOU SMACK!
Agreed. That's why simp is so frustrating: there are flashes of potential drowned out by waves of full tard.
(http://www.newlifeart.com/detail_pencil/Daniel_A__Moore/Other_Schools/Terry_Bowden/terrybowden.jpg)
I'm pretty!
Ali, you're not that pretty.
I'm a baaaad man!
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Agreed. That's why simp is so frustrating: there are flashes of potential drowned out by waves of full tard.
Just wait, I'll have you one of those big fuckin' waves coming very soon. I hope your little ass can swim.
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Is that Jesus or Grizzly Adams in your avatar, JR?
:bc: or :classic:
Lee Ziemba
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Nick Fairley
Ontarrio McCalebb
Phillip Lutzenkirchen
Signed with Coach Chizik.
Technically half correct. Fairley was signed and placed, all gave their original commit to Tubs.
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Lee Ziemba
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Jesus_Last_supper_copy.jpg)
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Jesus_Last_supper_copy.jpg)
Who is that sitting besides Jesus?
Peter?
Why is he so feminine looking?
Why is there a finger, like a knife, going across (his) throat?
Are one of the disciples trying to tell us something?
And why is (he) dressed directly opposite of Jesus?
And why does (he) and Jesus appear to be making some sort of "V" shape?
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Godfather, The Wes of the year print would rock my face off.
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Who is that sitting besides Jesus?
Peter?
Why is he so feminine looking?
Why is there a finger, like a knife, going across (his) throat?
Are one of the disciples trying to tell us something?
And why is (he) dressed directly opposite of Jesus?
And why does (he) and Jesus appear to be making some sort of "V" shape?
That would be a great idea for a novel.
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I know all these are probably quotes from some obscure movie so I'll say I have no idea going in if they are, but....
Did you know.....All the paintings and depictions of the Last Supper that everyone has grown up with and seen 1000 times, aren't close to how they actually did those gatherings in that time? From the fact that they didn't sit in chairs to where everyone would normally be laying (seated).
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take one more look at the picture.
the subject is wearing orange & blue.
to his left someone is proclaiming that Auburn is indeed #1.
the other hand is giving a congratulatory pat on the back.
and JR may say that his avatar is Lee Zeimba, but I don't belive him.............or maybe Leonardo was Nostradamus's cousin and was actually painting (predicting) Lee Zeimba celebrating winning the title.
WDE
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ps: someone ought to photoshop in the BCS trophy as the missing "holy grail"
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take one more look at the picture.
the subject is wearing orange & blue.
to his left someone is proclaiming that Auburn is indeed #1.
the other hand is giving a congratulatory pat on the back.
and JR may say that his avatar is Lee Zeimba, but I don't belive him.............or maybe Leonardo was Nostradamus's cousin and was actually painting (predicting) Lee Zeimba celebrating winning the title.
WDE
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ps: someone ought to photoshop in the BCS trophy as the missing "holy grail"
Coincidence?
I doubt it.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/saniflush/Jesus_Last_supper_copy.jpg)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/saniflush/terrybowden.jpg)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/saniflush/wesus.jpg)
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(http://www.tigersx.com/images/ziembasupper.jpg) Is this a Daniel Moore?
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(http://www.tigersx.com/images/ziembasupper.jpg) Is this a Daniel Moore?
I would have put some cammy cam juice in there but that's just me.
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You guys better stop messing with Jesus
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You guys better stop messing with Jesus
JR started it.
WDE
ps: good catch on the cuffs, and good job on the "head" change...........where is the damn trophy?
pps: if I could find a picture of the BCS game program, I would note that the background in the painting and the program cover is of desert and mountains..................a premonition I tell you.........down right scary....................
Illuminating, really.
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pps: if I could find a picture of the BCS game program, I would note that the background in the painting and the program cover is of desert and mountains..................a premonition I tell you.........down right scary....................
Illuminating, really.
(http://www.tigersx.com/saniflush/bcsprograms.jpg)
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I would have put some cammy cam juice in there but that's just me.
What are you talking about? You need to look again...I mean really you sound like a crazy person.
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What are you talking about? You need to look again...I mean really you sound like a crazy person.
Sarcasm is anger's ugly cousin
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Technically half correct. Fairley was signed and placed, all gave their original commit to Tubs.
But.....
They played national champions under a guy named Gene with a funny polish last name.
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(http://www.tigersx.com/saniflush/bcsprograms.jpg)
thank you sir..........look at the Cam cover and the Jesus/Zeimba painting...................dadgum preordained!
WDE
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But.....
They played national champions under a guy named Gene with a funny polish last name.
Larry Coker says hold up on the statue. But he appreciates your stance.
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What are you talking about? You need to look again...I mean really you sound like a crazy person.
where is the TROPHY!?!?!??
WDE
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Sarcasm is anger's ugly cousin
I'm going to need you to retard your anger.
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Larry Coker says hold up on the statue. But he appreciates your stance.
Funny....
But you know those situations are polar opposites.
Tubs left under different reasons than Davis. At The U, the staff stayed intact. It was no rebuilding effort. They were loaded to the gills. At Auburn there was a regime change and rebuilding of culture in the fb program. It's pretty apparent Gene worked his ass off. 70 scholarship players last year to a nc in one year. Give credit where its due. The fact is these players did something under Chiz that is special. I would more liken Coker to Tater Tot.
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I'm going to need you to retard your anger.
Geez, no slippy-flippy's or angry masterbating?
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Larry Coker says hold up on the statue. But he appreciates your stance.
That's a big stretch even for you.
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Funny....
But you know those situations are polar opposites.
Tubs left under different reasons than Davis. At The U, the staff stayed intact. It was no rebuilding effort. They were loaded to the gills. At Auburn there was a regime change and rebuilding of culture in the fb program. It's pretty apparent Gene worked his ass off. 70 scholarship players last year to a nc in one year. Give credit where its due. The fact is these players did something under Chiz that is special. I would more liken Coker to Tater Tot.
Didn't say he didn't do a good job. Said it plenty of times. It was a special season and one where everything bounced the right way.
There are a lot of guys who found the magic one time. McCartney, Fulmer, Stallings, Bobby Ross, Don James, Spurrier (yep, just one), Lavell Edwards, Schnellenberger, Dooley (yep, just one), Jimmy Johnson, Dan Devine, Danny Ford...
Some of those guys are legends. Others just meh.
But if you're going to give credit, stop with the bullshit "cupboards was bare" noise that Prowler lives by. Chizik made it happen. Or if you prefer, the convergence of Malzahn and Newton made it happen. But most of the major contributors were brought to AU while Tuberville was here. You've seen the list. No need to rehash that. And no need to pretend that Fairley was a Chizik recruit. Or that Lutz or Onterrio were either. Tuberville had them, Chizik reconfirmed. It wasn't like he had to go out and discover them. Due credick.
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That's a big stretch even for you.
He was bagging my groceries. I saw the ring. He offered his opinion. What can I say.
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He was bagging my groceries. I saw the ring. He offered his opinion. What can I say.
Are we talking about Darvin Adams now?
What? Too soon?
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CTT was on John and Barry out of Montgomery yesterday. Good interview. He was all class and had nothing but great things to say about this staff and team. Said he was so nervous, he could barely watch the BCS game.
Don't know if they have a site where you can pull up the interview but it'd be worth the listen.
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CTT was on John and Barry out of Montgomery yesterday. Good interview. He was all class and had nothing but great things to say about this staff and team. Said he was so nervous, he could barely watch the BCS game.
Don't know if they have a site where you can pull up the interview but it'd be worth the listen.
You go to school with Longshore?
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CTT was on John and Barry out of Montgomery yesterday. Good interview. He was all class and had nothing but great things to say about this staff and team. Said he was so nervous, he could barely watch the BCS game.
Don't know if they have a site where you can pull up the interview but it'd be worth the listen.
Couldn't find the interview, but this sounds similar.
DALLAS, Tex. – Former Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville guided the Tigers to an undefeated season but, in one of the greatest BCS controversies, never played for a national championship. Attending the American Football Coaches Association Convention this week, the former Tigers coach was beaming with pride when talking about his old school winning a national title Monday night.
But he had to confess that he just couldn’t watch Auburn raise up the trophy live.
“You know, I didn’t watch what happened,†Tuberville said. “I got so nervous because a lot of those kids are mine. I told my wife, we’re going to go eat and I’ll tape it. After I knew who won, I came back and stayed up and watched it in the middle of the night.
“That’s hard what they just did. They could have lost three or four games.â€
Tuberville was head coach at Auburn from 1999 to 2008, including an undefeated season in 2004. He recruited many of the upperclassmen on the team, including Defensive MVP Nick Fairley.
“We recruited him. We watched him play basketball and you could see it coming,†Tuberville said. “He just didn’t have the grades (out of high school). We stayed with him out of high school, got him in junior college.â€
In addition to Fairley, Tuberville pointed out one other leftover from his time on the Plains that helped fuel the championship run.
“The guy that probably doesn’t get enough credit though, is Kevin Yoxall, the strength coach,†he said. “We always had senior banquets at the end of the year and every year, every player would thank one guy. That’s Kevin Yoxall.
“When I walked out the door at Auburn, I said I don’t know who you’re going to keep but that’s the one guy you better keep. And they did. That’s the only thing they listened to me about.â€
Tuberville is entering his second season as head coach at Texas Tech.
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CTT was on John and Barry out of Montgomery yesterday. Good interview. He was all class and had nothing but great things to say about this staff and team. Said he was so nervous, he could barely watch the BCS game.
Don't know if they have a site where you can pull up the interview but it'd be worth the listen.
Don't be ridiculous. That was obviously an imposter. Prowler said he was jealous, bitter and angry. Tuberville was a BBQ eating bastard who cared more for himself and dead ducks than he did anything or anybody else. He couldn't possibly have derived any joy or happiness from watching Auburn succeed.
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You go to school with Longshore?
Longshore was my brother's age and went to school with him at Montgomery Academy and Bama. He lived over on Boxwood a few blocks behind JD. I like that show and believe it or not, Longshore's blatant Bammerism. He'll punk Bama at the drop of a hat if needed but mostly, it's just him and Barry ripping on each other. Don't know how much Doug Amos still does around there. He was my age and I knew him since grade school. Over the top Bammer but little known fact, he flunked out with a .00 Buckshot grade point.
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Couldn't find the interview, but this sounds similar.
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Yeah, he said a lot of the same things in the interview. Longshore asked him to compare the Big 12 to the SEC on athletes and game day experiences. He said they have just as many talented skill position players in the Big 12...just smaller. I found that funny. Also said most, not all, but most SEC schools are rabid about game day but places like Oklahomo and Texass are equally crazy places to play.
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Longshore was my brother's age and went to school with him at Montgomery Academy and Bama. He lived over on Boxwood a few blocks behind JD. I like that show and believe it or not, Longshore's blatant Bammerism. He'll punk Bama at the drop of a hat if needed but mostly, it's just him and Barry ripping on each other. Don't know how much Doug Amos still does around there. He was my age and I knew him since grade school. Over the top Bammer but little known fact, he flunked out with a .00 Buckshot grade point.
Longshore went to Jeff Davis I thought. He played football and was in my dad's class...or so the story goes...
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But he appreciates your stance.
Wide? I had no idea Larry was fabulous.
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Longshore went to Jeff Davis I thought. He played football and was in my dad's class...or so the story goes...
I believe you are correct on the high school thing. I know he went to M.A. earlier because he and my brother always hung out. I had gone off to AU by the time he hit high school.
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This has got to be the most all-over-the-place thread in the history of this board. (and that is saying a lot)
I think we have 3-4 different conversations going on.
I don't even know what the fuck we are talking about anymore.
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This has got to be the most all-over-the-place thread in the history of this board. (and that is saying a lot)
I think we have 3-4 different conversations going on.
Speaking of history, did you know Brett Fah-vray was never the Super Bowl MVP?
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Speaking of history, did you know Brett Fah-vray was never the Super Bowl MVP?
Desmond Howard was, I'd put my money on Simms. Paaaawl the FBI is gonna raid Auburn on Friday, I know a friend of a guy, who's friends with a waiter that overheard the whole thing.
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Desmond Howard was, I'd put my money on Simms. Paaaawl the FBI is gonna raid Auburn on Friday, I know a friend of a guy, who's friends with a waiter that overheard the whole thing.
Really? Fuck! Where are they raiding? If it is the girl's sorority dorm, where can I get one of these?
(http://www.firestoreonline.com/images/products/fullsize/fbi.raid.jacket.full.jpg)
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Really? Fuck! Where are they raiding? If it is the girl's sorority dorm, where can I get one of these?
Step aside momma, I wanna see some of that muff!
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Step aside momma, I wanna see some of that muff!
Oh hair pie
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Superbowl XLV in retrospect: Five things we’ve learned
Just sing it as it was written: Enough with the celebrity renditions of the national anthem. Chrisina Aguilera’s snarling, growling off-key and out of time version was bad way before she forgot the words. The national anthem at the BCS Championship Game in Glendale was sung by the Air Force Cadet Chorale. The delivered a straightforward, stirring rendition that brought tears to your eyes. By the time Aguilera finished mangling the first few lines, viewers were also crying but not out of patriotic fervor. Here’s a hint. Any time a performer hits three or more notes on the word “see†in the first line of the first stanza, they’re not singing for national pride. They’re singing for themselves. That’s not what it’s about. From now on let a military chorus bring us the anthem and shelve the prima donnas.
Leave halftime to the bands: Every season the halftime shows grow more and more elaborate. We’ve seen wardrobe malfunctions, aging rockers who can’t reach the high notes and comedians. We’ve tried Phil Collins, Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Nelly, Prince, Bruce Springsteen, Chaka Kahn and Tom Petty. Enough. This year’s spectacle was a horror show. Flashing space outfits. Plastic hair. Sparkling chest pieces. Glowing boxes for heads. Usher forgetting to brush his hair (and also to sing). Slash hiking his leg on the sanctity of Guns & Roses. And a plethora of out of breath caterwauling. It wasn’t that it was bad so much as it just wasn’t good. The sound system in Jerry Jones’ castle needs work. Frankly, the halftime extravaganza is just unnecessary. Get some good marching bands to pass the time, let the hosts do a little analysis and get back to the game.
It’s never too early to rush to judgment: Minutes after the final seconds drained from the clock, the media was in full flush. Where does Green Bay’s Aaron Rogers stand in the pantheon of NFL quarterbacks? Is he the greatest Packer quarterback ever? Is he the best in the league today? How many more Superbowls can he win? Please. Put the brakes on the hype train. You don’t need to forge a new crown every year. Rogers had a good run in the playoffs. That’s the extent of it. He’s in his third season and has a grand total of three playoff wins, one coming in the Superbowl. Are we seriously going to start comparing him to Bart Starr? To Joe Montana? To John Elway? To Dan Marino? To Tom Brady? To Brett Favre? Rogers had a good season. When Green Bay needed him, he stepped up and made the plays. But it’s too early to anoint him the greatest of any era. Or even the greatest today.
How smart does Green Bay look now? Three years ago, Brett Favre negotiated a contentious departure from the Green Bay Packers. It was almost like a divorce. Favre didn’t really want to go, but Green Bay had moved on. The organization had made its decision to invest its future in Rogers. The Packers bowed out of the yearly Favre circus. Not everyone was happy with the decision. Favre was a proven commodity, the face of the franchise. Letting him go first to the Jets and then to the Vikings was difficult. How smart do the Packers look today? Had Favre stuck around and dragged out his career in Green Bay, Rogers would have either languished on the bench, battled for playing time or been shipped out of town. With Favre gone, however, the patient Packers ownership allowed him to mature into his role. Their confidence in him paid off in a Super Bowl ring. No offense to Favre, but had he stayed in Green Bay the second – or was it third? – time he returned from retirement the franchise would not be celebrating a title today.
The BCS is better: The Super Bowl draws the world wide ratings but in the grand scheme of things the NCAA’s BCS Championship is a better product. The college football finale offers passion and drama that simply can’t be matched by the NFL. The biggest reason the BCS is better, however, is that it doesn’t rely on the playoffs. In a pre-Super Bowl interview New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning said that the only thing that mattered in the regular season was winning enough to make the playoffs. Regular season losses were irrelevant as long as you made the post-season. The media today attempts to deify Rogers because Green Bay went into each of its last three regular season games needing a win to make the playoffs and the Packers delivered. That gauntlet was what Auburn’s Cam Newton and Oregon’s Darron Thomas faced not three times, but 13 and 12 times respectively on their path to the BCS title game. Every game is important in college football. Every game is a defacto playoff. The teams that make the BCS championship are battle tested, their worth proven week in and week out. That’s not always the case when it comes to determining the NFL title.
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Yup....15 players less than 85 means the cupboard was full. 1 LBer gets hurt, now down to 3 Scholarship LBers. Ahhh, nevermind...CTT was the greatest HC of All Time, definitely the best recruiter Ever.
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Ahhh, nevermind...CTT was the greatest HC of All Time, definitely the best recruiter Ever.
That's the thing...no one is saying that. To you, he is either the greatest of all time, or he sucks. It doesn't have to be like that...
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That's the thing...no one is saying that. To you, he is either the greatest of all time, or he sucks. It doesn't have to be like that...
No, that's how Kaos views it. I've said all along the what CTT did at Auburn was great, but he left the program in a huge hole depth wise. Kaos will then type out a 140 page book on how he didn't leave Auburn in a hole & how great his recruiting classes were.
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No, that's how Kaos views it. I've said all along the what CTT did at Auburn was great, but he left the program in a huge hole depth wise. Kaos will then type out a 140 page book on how he didn't leave Auburn in a hole & how great his recruiting classes were.
No, people who have an indefensible position, defend their position by accusing those that oppose them of being as completely absurdly extreme as they are in their own views. If I've said it once, I've said it a fucking bazzillion Goddamn times. It was time for Tubs to go when he left, but to admit that, I don't have to forget what he did when he was there; assign him complete blame for all the bad while giving him no credit for the good, or act like he left nothing at all to work with because he has a higher than normal attrition rate the last couple of years. And if you think he left Auburn in the same shape talent wise that Terry Bowden did, you're fucking delusional. He may have left low numbers...some of whom left because Tubs left...but he left a pretty good core of Sr's that lead this team this year too.
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No, people who have an indefensible position, defend their position by accusing those that oppose them of being as completely absurdly extreme as they are in their own views. If I've said it once, I've said it a fucking bazzillion Goddamn times. It was time for Tubs to go when he left, but to admit that, I don't have to forget what he did when he was there; assign him complete blame for all the bad while giving him no credit for the good, or act like he left nothing at all to work with because he has a higher than normal attrition rate the last couple of years. And if you think he left Auburn in the same shape talent wise that Terry Bowden did, you're fucking delusional. He may have left low numbers...some of whom left because Tubs left...but he left a pretty good core of Sr's that lead this team this year too.
Have I said anything at all about the talent level? Nope. But, I will say this...if CTT had stayed at Auburn, Clemson & SPuat would've beat us...it would've been probably pretty ugly. Therefore, we would've never played and won the National Championship this previous year.
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Have I said anything at all about the talent level? Nope. But, I will say this...if CTT had stayed at Auburn, Clemson & SPuat would've beat us...it would've been probably pretty ugly. Therefore, we would've never played and won the National Championship this previous year.
Another thing folks who have an indefensible position do is make fantasy land assertions that can neither be proved or disproved, and serve them up as though they're absolute fact.
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Yeah, he said a lot of the same things in the interview. Longshore asked him to compare the Big 12 to the SEC on athletes and game day experiences. He said they have just as many talented skill position players in the Big 12...just smaller. I found that funny. Also said most, not all, but most SEC schools are rabid about game day but places like Oklahomo and Texass are equally crazy places to play.
He's a liar then. That BBQ eating duck killer. Fuck him and his ears......because we all know Texas Tech played Texas in Lubbock. But yeah, them Oklahomo's are a crazy bunch.
I have heard that DKR Memorial Texas Homo Erotica Ghey Butt Sex Stadium gets extremely quiet in most games - especially when they are losing or playing a nobody which is pretty much 90% of their games. Half of the student section clears out in a close game at halftime to head to the 6th Street hippie socials. Kind of pathetic to me.
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No, people who have an indefensible position, defend their position by accusing those that oppose them of being as completely absurdly extreme as they are in their own views. If I've said it once, I've said it a fucking bazzillion Goddamn times. It was time for Tubs to go when he left, but to admit that, I don't have to forget what he did when he was there; assign him complete blame for all the bad while giving him no credit for the good, or act like he left nothing at all to work with because he has a higher than normal attrition rate the last couple of years. And if you think he left Auburn in the same shape talent wise that Terry Bowden did, you're fucking delusional. He may have left low numbers...some of whom left because Tubs left...but he left a pretty good core of Sr's that lead this team this year too.
There ya go. Exactly.
I said it was time to part ways. I've also said that I would have been okay if they'd parted in 2003. Doesn't mean I completely discount everything he did, bash all of his assistants and trash the legacy he left.
I leave that to others.
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There ya go. Exactly.
I said it was time to part ways. I've also said that I would have been okay if they'd parted in 2003. Doesn't mean I completely discount everything he did, bash all of his assistants and trash the legacy he left.
I leave that to others.
I would have definitely been ok if 2003 had happened as planned. I don't lie about that.
But then again, if it had, 2010 wouldn't have happened. Weird how things work out.
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Have I said anything at all about the talent level? Nope. But, I will say this...if CTT had stayed at Auburn, Clemson & SPuat would've beat us...it would've been probably pretty ugly. Therefore, we would've never played and won the National Championship this previous year.
If we play those same 14 games again, Prowler, we'd be just as likely to go 10-4 as 14-0.
Everything -- and I mean everything -- we needed we got last year. Need a penalty to wipe out a second overtime? Bing! Need a guy to drop a wide open touchdown pass to avoid an insurmountable hole? BiZAAM! Need a penalty to eliminate a first down run and drop the opposition into position for a safety? KAA-CHOW! Need a fumble? Need an interception? Need a confirmation or a reversal from the booth? Need receivers to drop first down pass after first down pass? Whatever it was, we got it. BA-BLAMMITY BLAM. Every single time.
We play Clemson and Alabama again last year and maybe we lose both. Maybe we lose to Kentucky. Maybe we lose to South Carolina. Maybe we lose to Mississippi State.
I'm not taking anything away from this team because it didn't break my heart. It was a dream come true and I completely understand what it means and just how special it was. Nobody is happier than me. Well, maybe David Housel is, but I digress. Wouldn't trade it for anything. But it also gives me a perspective I've never really had. I know now that it takes a special set of circumstances to get to the to of the mountain and we should cherish it. But also see it for what it is. A marvelous combination of talent, coaching, dedication and...... fortune.
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If we play those same 14 games again, Prowler, we'd be just as likely to go 10-4 as 14-0.
Everything -- and I mean everything -- we needed we got last year. Need a penalty to wipe out a second overtime? Bing! Need a guy to drop a wide open touchdown pass to avoid an insurmountable hole? BiZAAM! Need a penalty to eliminate a first down run and drop the opposition into position for a safety? KAA-CHOW! Need a fumble? Need an interception? Need a confirmation or a reversal from the booth? Need receivers to drop first down pass after first down pass? Whatever it was, we got it. BA-BLAMMITY BLAM. Every single time.
We play Clemson and Alabama again last year and maybe we lose both. Maybe we lose to Kentucky. Maybe we lose to South Carolina. Maybe we lose to Mississippi State.
I'm not taking anything away from this team because it didn't break my heart. It was a dream come true and I completely understand what it means and just how special it was. Nobody is happier than me. Well, maybe David Housel is, but I digress. Wouldn't trade it for anything. But it also gives me a perspective I've never really had. I know now that it takes a special set of circumstances to get to the to of the mountain and we should cherish it. But also see it for what it is. A marvelous combination of talent, coaching, dedication and...... fortune.
There is also the fact of Malzahn not really letting Cam loose until the Kentucky game. If he could do it over again now? Clemson and MSU probably wouldn't be close.
Wait we did get to do one of them over. Round 1 - 35-27 Round 2 - 6,892 - 10
The D also matured a lot after Kentucky.
Again, these are all coulda woulda shouldas. What matters is what happened. But I do feel pretty confident we blow Clemson and MSU out of the water in a Round 2 ala USCe.
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If we play those same 14 games again, Prowler, we'd be just as likely to go 10-4 as 14-0.
Everything -- and I mean everything -- we needed we got last year. Need a penalty to wipe out a second overtime? Bing! Need a guy to drop a wide open touchdown pass to avoid an insurmountable hole? BiZAAM! Need a penalty to eliminate a first down run and drop the opposition into position for a safety? KAA-CHOW! Need a fumble? Need an interception? Need a confirmation or a reversal from the booth? Need receivers to drop first down pass after first down pass? Whatever it was, we got it. BA-BLAMMITY BLAM. Every single time.
We play Clemson and Alabama again last year and maybe we lose both. Maybe we lose to Kentucky. Maybe we lose to South Carolina. Maybe we lose to Mississippi State.
I'm not taking anything away from this team because it didn't break my heart. It was a dream come true and I completely understand what it means and just how special it was. Nobody is happier than me. Well, maybe David Housel is, but I digress. Wouldn't trade it for anything. But it also gives me a perspective I've never really had. I know now that it takes a special set of circumstances to get to the to of the mountain and we should cherish it. But also see it for what it is. A marvelous combination of talent, coaching, dedication and...... fortune.
Tis how championship seasons are made.
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I would have definitely been ok if 2003 had happened as planned. I don't lie about that.
But then again, if it had, 2010 wouldn't have happened. Weird how things work out.
Never know.
2003 was such a major disappointment. I still remember the NFL scout looking at that team and saying that it had more talent than he'd seen on several NFL teams.
Cover of ESPN. Expectations out the ass.
And then. And then. Jim Fyffe died. USC showed up and the mic guy had the stadium practice a "touchdown Auburn" chant in his honor. I've never felt a stronger disturbance in the forces of karma. Told this before, but an old B'ham News photographer on the sidelines turned to me and said "Oh no. we're not gonna score..." And we didn't. For two games. Crash. Burn. Pain. Agony. Ben dropped the winning pass against Ole Miss. Thoughts of suicide.
That season made me question my devotion. Why get constantly kicked in the teeth? I really struggled with it but came around. Realized what it was I loved about Auburn and football was only a part of it.
There are a lot of things about the end of that season I can't tell. It was such a debacle. People -- good people -- fell on their swords.
Even with all that -- if the transition had been handled properly I would have been okay with it.
And maybe things are different. Or the same. Who knows?
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There is also the fact of Malzahn not really letting Cam loose until the Kentucky game. If he could do it over again now? Clemson and MSU probably wouldn't be close.
Wait we did get to do one of them over. Round 1 - 35-27 Round 2 - 6,892 - 10
The D also matured a lot after Kentucky.
Again, these are all coulda woulda shouldas. What matters is what happened. But I do feel pretty confident we blow Clemson and MSU out of the water in a Round 2 ala USCe.
I meant if we just started over. I'm not talking about some kind of 17 Again movie where we go back knowing what we know now.
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There are a lot of things about the end of that season I can't tell. It was such a debacle. People -- good people -- fell on their swords.
Housel?
I think he still has a sour taste in his mouth. He's a good man.
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I meant if we just started over. I'm not talking about some kind of 17 Again movie where we go back knowing what we know now.
Don't lie, you watched it didn't you?
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Housel?
I think he still has a sour taste in his mouth. He's a good man.
Him in particular.
No sour grapes though. David is an Auburn man. He would die before doing anything to hurt it. A good man. If he could do things differently.... but that's part of it too.
Thing happen. Some you can control, some you can't. It's how you respond that really matters.
You ask me, he responded like a champ.
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Don't lie, you watched it didn't you?
I have daughters. It's been on in my house. But I've never seen the entire thing. I've seen a minute or two here and there.
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Him in particular.
No sour grapes though. David is an Auburn man. He would die before doing anything to hurt it. A good man. If he could do things differently.... but that's part of it too.
Thing happen. Some you can control, some you can't. It's how you respond that really matters.
You ask me, he responded like a champ.
Agree....He's a good un.
I'm curious to hear EA opine here. He seems to always know a lot about Housel. EA?
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Agree....He's a good un.
I'm curious to hear EA opine here. He seems to always know a lot about Housel. EA?
I concur on Housel. Auburn man to the core, and I think he boarded that plane to Louisville under duress, then fell on his sword because of it.
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"Before Coach Chizik took over, at the end of the '08 season we were in shambles" - Lee Ziemba
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Agree....He's a good un.
I'm curious to hear EA opine here. He seems to always know a lot about Housel. EA?
David Housel has always been and is a good Auburn man and will continue to be until he goes to collect his reward.
He was, from the day he was made AD, in an untenable position. He was not about to turn down his dream job......yet he did not have the "strength" to carry out his duties.
Simply put, he was caught between a rock and a hard place and it could not end any other way than it did.................some knew this from the very beginning.
His entire tenure was framed by David trying to walk a tight line between doing what he knew was right and doing what he knew would allow him to keep his job.
Getting on that plane is the most visible example of this....but not the only example.
fwiw, I am glad David is on Auburn's side......and that is about all I have to say about that.
WAR EAGLE
ps: something from my memory (hope I am remembering correctly), my favorite Housel comment:
and I am paraphrasing a bit:
"When I die, I wish to be cremated and my ashes spread along the South endzone goal line and forever more Auburn's most ancient rivals shall have to score over my dead body as they face the roar from the Auburn students."............or something close to that.
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"Before Coach Chizik took over, at the end of the '08 season we were in shambles" - Lee Ziemba
You keep posting that quote as if you've discovered the Holy Grail. Of course they were. What's you're point?
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David Housel has always been and is a good Auburn man and will continue to be until he goes to collect his reward.
He was, from the day he was made AD, in an untenable position. He was not about to turn down his dream job......yet he did not have the "strength" to carry out his duties.
Simply put, he was caught between a rock and a hard place and it could not end any other way than it did.................some knew this from the very beginning.
His entire tenure was framed by David trying to walk a tight line between doing what he knew was right and doing what he knew would allow him to keep his job.
Getting on that plane is the most visible example of this....but not the only example.
fwiw, I am glad David is on Auburn's side......and that is about all I have to say about that.
WAR EAGLE
ps: something from my memory (hope I am remembering correctly), my favorite Housel comment:
and I am paraphrasing a bit:
"When I die, I wish to be cremated and my ashes spread along the South endzone goal line and forever more Auburn's most ancient rivals shall have to score over my dead body as they face the roar from the Auburn students."............or something close to that.
Good writeup EA. Couldn't agree more about Housel. I read an interview with him recently. To be honest, he sounded spent. Said he didn't take football nearly as serious as he used to. And said he wasn't even gonna watch the Iron Bowl, or something to that effect. I can understand where he is coming from on that one.
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You keep posting that quote as if you've discovered the Holy Grail.
well, we do have the proper picture posted , but someone refuses to photoshop in the Grail and make it complete.
maybe the quote IS the grail..........................all this time I thought it was the Crystal.
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maybe the quote IS the grail.........................
And again, as in years past, I offer to you....
I, We, They......
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And again, as in years past, I offer to you....
I, We, They......
The Plan. The Plan has been in place for all time. It is in motion. You can not alter or thwart or subvert The Plan. The Plan shall Prevail.
I, We, They...............Us, The Illuminati
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Fuck, people. Read and try to comprehend what Prowler has said 1000 times. He loves, loves, loves Tommy Tuberville and what he did in the entire body of work at Auburn. Not one person...even Prowler has disputed that. But his last year or two SUCKED!!!! PERIOD!!! For a myriad of reasons, his coaching, his management of assistants etc. was awful. You've all said countless times, it was time to move on. Really??? Really???
Why is that?
That's been Prowler's point from the beginning. For WHATEVER reasons, he lost it at Auburn University. And fuck the notion that he can't be criticized, analyzed or succumb to a proctoscope up his ass. He was paid MEGA-SKWAZILLIONS to coach and to leave. He was great. I've said that. Prowler's said that. But he left this program in a hole and Chizik & Co. took what he left, added to it, worked their asses off and won a MNC. This is not a comparison to Tubs. He put/kept AU on the map. There were definitely good things that he left behind. But if he's going to receive MILLIONS of dollars from my University and from MY tax dollars...he's fair game for praise AND criticism.
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Fuck, people. Read and try to comprehend what Prowler has said 1000 times. He loves, loves, loves Tommy Tuberville and what he did in the entire body of work at Auburn. Not one person...even Prowler has disputed that. But his last year or two SUCKED!!!! PERIOD!!! For a myriad of reasons, his coaching, his management of assistants etc. was awful. You've all said countless times, it was time to move on. Really??? Really???
Why is that?
That's been Prowler's point from the beginning. For WHATEVER reasons, he lost it at Auburn University. And fuck the notion that he can't be criticized, analyzed or succumb to a proctoscope up his ass. He was paid MEGA-SKWAZILLIONS to coach and to leave. He was great. I've said that. Prowler's said that. But he left this program in a hole and Chizik & Co. took what he left, added to it, worked their asses off and won a MNC. This is not a comparison to Tubs. He put/kept AU on the map. There were definitely good things that he left behind. But if he's going to receive MILLIONS of dollars from my University and from MY tax dollars...he's fair game for praise AND criticism.
What movie is that from?
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Fuck, people. Read and try to comprehend what Prowler has said 1000 times. He loves, loves, loves Tommy Tuberville and what he did in the entire body of work at Auburn. Not one person...even Prowler has disputed that. But his last year or two SUCKED!!!! PERIOD!!! For a myriad of reasons, his coaching, his management of assistants etc. was awful. You've all said countless times, it was time to move on. Really??? Really???
Why is that?
That's been Prowler's point from the beginning. For WHATEVER reasons, he lost it at Auburn University. And fuck the notion that he can't be criticized, analyzed or succumb to a proctoscope up his ass. He was paid MEGA-SKWAZILLIONS to coach and to leave. He was great. I've said that. Prowler's said that. But he left this program in a hole and Chizik & Co. took what he left, added to it, worked their asses off and won a MNC. This is not a comparison to Tubs. He put/kept AU on the map. There were definitely good things that he left behind. But if he's going to receive MILLIONS of dollars from my University and from MY tax dollars...he's fair game for praise AND criticism.
Bingo. But for some reason, he's too awesome to be criticized. Yet, Coach Chizik who is coming off a National Championship and been a part of 3 Undefeated Teams can be criticized by everyone under the sun? People like Kaos and JR are to blame!!!
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"Before Coach Chizik took over, at the end of the '08 season we were in shambles" - Lee Ziemba
:haha:
Prowler slumps in dragging a dead horse.
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Fuck, people. Read and try to comprehend what Prowler has said 1000 times. He loves, loves, loves Tommy Tuberville and what he did in the entire body of work at Auburn. Not one person...even Prowler has disputed that. But his last year or two SUCKED!!!! PERIOD!!! For a myriad of reasons, his coaching, his management of assistants etc. was awful. You've all said countless times, it was time to move on. Really??? Really???
Why is that?
That's been Prowler's point from the beginning. For WHATEVER reasons, he lost it at Auburn University. And fuck the notion that he can't be criticized, analyzed or succumb to a proctoscope up his ass. He was paid MEGA-SKWAZILLIONS to coach and to leave. He was great. I've said that. Prowler's said that. But he left this program in a hole and Chizik & Co. took what he left, added to it, worked their asses off and won a MNC. This is not a comparison to Tubs. He put/kept AU on the map. There were definitely good things that he left behind. But if he's going to receive MILLIONS of dollars from my University and from MY tax dollars...he's fair game for praise AND criticism.
No, Snag. That's not ever what he's said.
Lets try this one: Tuberville recruits the first top 20 class in Texas Tech history.
Prowler's response? "Carried the same shitty recruiting to Texas Tech he did at Auburn. He sucked. It's easy to recruit in Texas."
Or this: "Many of the players who led Auburn to the national title were Tuberville recruits."
Prowler: Blah, blah, blah, cupboard bare. Only 70 players. Sucked. Chizik recruited Fairley, Onterrio and Lutz even if he didn't.
Or this: "Auburn won the national title."
Prowler: "HAHAHA I bet Tuberville's pissed!"
Or this: Eddie Gran is without a job four or five weeks before he lands at Tennessee.
Prowler: "Tuberville's assistants fucking suck. If Gran was so fucking good why didn't he get a job already?"
No, Snag, that's not what Prowler's ever said. Fuck him. When it comes to Tuberville he acts EXACTLY like a douchebag bama fan.
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Fuck, people. Read and try to comprehend what Prowler has said 1000 times. He loves, loves, loves Tommy Tuberville and what he did in the entire body of work at Auburn. Not one person...even Prowler has disputed that. But his last year or two SUCKED!!!! PERIOD!!! For a myriad of reasons, his coaching, his management of assistants etc. was awful. You've all said countless times, it was time to move on. Really??? Really???
Why is that?
That's been Prowler's point from the beginning. For WHATEVER reasons, he lost it at Auburn University. And fuck the notion that he can't be criticized, analyzed or succumb to a proctoscope up his ass. He was paid MEGA-SKWAZILLIONS to coach and to leave. He was great. I've said that. Prowler's said that. But he left this program in a hole and Chizik & Co. took what he left, added to it, worked their asses off and won a MNC. This is not a comparison to Tubs. He put/kept AU on the map. There were definitely good things that he left behind. But if he's going to receive MILLIONS of dollars from my University and from MY tax dollars...he's fair game for praise AND criticism.
This every fucking work and fuck Kaos, you quit on us bitch and I'll never forget that you big fucking pussy. Next time you see me say something you bitch, I'll put the fear of god in you pansy ass.
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No, Snag. That's not ever what he's said.
Lets try this one: Tuberville recruits the first top 20 class in Texas Tech history.
Prowler's response? "Carried the same shitty recruiting to Texas Tech he did at Auburn. He sucked. It's easy to recruit in Texas."
Or this: "Many of the players who led Auburn to the national title were Tuberville recruits."
Prowler: Blah, blah, blah, cupboard bare. Only 70 players. Sucked. Chizik recruited Fairley, Onterrio and Lutz even if he didn't.
Or this: "Auburn won the national title."
Prowler: "HAHAHA I bet Tuberville's pissed!"
Or this: Eddie Gran is without a job four or five weeks before he lands at Tennessee.
Prowler: "Tuberville's assistants fucking suck. If Gran was so fucking good why didn't he get a job already?"
No, Snag, that's not what Prowler's ever said. Fuck him. When it comes to Tuberville he acts EXACTLY like a douchebag bama fan.
Keep making shit up, it's what you do best. Learn how to fuckin' read before you write something else...or just quit again before you're made to eat another plate of Crow.
On to the quotes. Whenever quoting someone, don't add to it without parenthesis. You give the reader a false quote by not doing so. When quoting me...don't try and post what you think I mean and stop being a little fuckin' mommy part by taking everything people say to the extreme.
Quote #1: It is easy to recruit Texas, you stupid fuck.
Quote #2: The cupboard was fucking BARE in '09, and we were Damn Lucky not to have a handful of injuries this year...if we would've, there probably would've been a freshman coming to fill in or a player that signed in '09. Coach Chizik did have to re-recruit Lutzenkirchen (FSU, UGA and SPuat came calling) and Ontario McCalebb (Clemson was calling). Lutzenkirchen, McCalebb and Nick Fairley did sign with Coach Chizik.
Quote #3: Never said anything about CTT being pissed. I've just said that CTT wouldn't have been able to take us there this year, which would've been his 12th year. How do I know this? Coach Malzahn, Coach Troop, Coach Loop, Coach Boulware, Coach Grimes, Coach Thigpen and Coach Rock would've never been brought on board. We would've kept Coach Nall (He put out some great Offensive Linemen, but it seemed as if he too lost his fire), Coach Ensminger (can't break up the BBQ gang), Coach Dunn (I'd take Coach Rock over Coach Dunn and I think he was a heck of a DL coach), Coach Willis (I haven't been impressed with either his coaching or recruiting).
Quote #4: I've ALWAYS thought that Coach Gran was CTT's best position coach. I was more astonished that his name hadn't come up earlier than it did....If I remember correctly he was being looked over by a few schools. I'm happy that he got out of UT, he was miserable there, his style didn't mesh with Coach Kiffin's Band of Looneys. I still feel that he will be the only position coach, from CTT's former staff, that actually goes on to become extremely successful in coaching.
Does that clear things up for everyone. Eat Shit Kaos. Oh yeah, all that "I" posted is Fact.
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It's nice to be home.
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It's nice to be home.
Home is where the ghey posts and movie quotes are.
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Keep making shit up, it's what you do best. Learn how to fuckin' read before you write something else...or just quit again before you're made to eat another plate of Crow.
On to the quotes. Whenever quoting someone, don't add to it without parenthesis. You give the reader a false quote by not doing so. When quoting me...don't try and post what you think I mean and stop being a little fuckin' mommy part by taking everything people say to the extreme.
Quote #1: It is easy to recruit Texas, you stupid fuck.
Quote #2: The cupboard was fucking BARE in '09, and we were Damn Lucky not to have a handful of injuries this year...if we would've, there probably would've been a freshman coming to fill in or a player that signed in '09. Coach Chizik did have to re-recruit Lutzenkirchen (FSU, UGA and SPuat came calling) and Ontario McCalebb (Clemson was calling). Lutzenkirchen, McCalebb and Nick Fairley did sign with Coach Chizik.
Quote #3: Never said anything about CTT being pissed. I've just said that CTT wouldn't have been able to take us there this year, which would've been his 12th year. How do I know this? Coach Malzahn, Coach Troop, Coach Loop, Coach Boulware, Coach Grimes, Coach Thigpen and Coach Rock would've never been brought on board. We would've kept Coach Nall (He put out some great Offensive Linemen, but it seemed as if he too lost his fire), Coach Ensminger (can't break up the BBQ gang), Coach Dunn (I'd take Coach Rock over Coach Dunn and I think he was a heck of a DL coach), Coach Willis (I haven't been impressed with either his coaching or recruiting).
Quote #4: I've ALWAYS thought that Coach Gran was CTT's best position coach. I was more astonished that his name hadn't come up earlier than it did....If I remember correctly he was being looked over by a few schools. I'm happy that he got out of UT, he was miserable there, his style didn't mesh with Coach Kiffin's Band of Looneys. I still feel that he will be the only position coach, from CTT's former staff, that actually goes on to become extremely successful in coaching.
Does that clear things up for everyone. Eat Shit Kaos. Oh yeah, all that "I" posted is Fact.
Wow. You must smoke a lot of pot because your short term memory is for shit. Come to think of it, so's your long term memory, but whatever.
Not going to bother to address all of that because you clearly don't remember anything you've said over the last three years.
Will, however, give you a quick snap back on item #1. If it's so easy, why is Tuberville the first to have TT in the top 20 in recruiting? That's kind of the point. Sailed over your head. Or bounced off the construction helmet. One or the other.
This entire discussion boils down to one simple concept. Tuberville's gone. Most of us agreed that given the situation it was best for Auburn and for Tuberville that he leave when he did. Now that he's gone you have two choices: 1) You can act like a douchebag bama fan and take every opportunity to take shots at him (your current choice) or 2) you can respect what he did here, acknowledge that for the most part it was a pretty good run, wish him well in his current venture and move on.
I think all of us would prefer to follow the second path with the exception of a few, like you, P, who insist on getting shots in. It's not an either/or thing. Saying Tuberville was good for Auburn doesn't mean saying Chizik isn't. I think that's where you get lost. Very, very lost.
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Home is where the ghey posts and movie quotes are.
Don't forget about the french benefits.
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Don't forget about the french benefits.
There are so many pre madonnas here, it's sort of a mute point.
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Don't forget about the french benefits.
I was gonna add the awesome .gif avatars, but that will do.
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No, Snag. That's not ever what he's said.
Lets try this one: Tuberville recruits the first top 20 class in Texas Tech history.
Prowler's response? "Carried the same shitty recruiting to Texas Tech he did at Auburn. He sucked. It's easy to recruit in Texas."
Or this: "Many of the players who led Auburn to the national title were Tuberville recruits."
Prowler: Blah, blah, blah, cupboard bare. Only 70 players. Sucked. Chizik recruited Fairley, Onterrio and Lutz even if he didn't.
Or this: "Auburn won the national title."
Prowler: "HAHAHA I bet Tuberville's pissed!"
Or this: Eddie Gran is without a job four or five weeks before he lands at Tennessee.
Prowler: "Tuberville's assistants fucking suck. If Gran was so fucking good why didn't he get a job already?"
No, Snag, that's not what Prowler's ever said. Fuck him. When it comes to Tuberville he acts EXACTLY like a douchebag bama fan.
This
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Whoever led this thread into another discussion of Tuberville's recruiting should be shot in front of his family.
Now which one of you are responsible?!
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Whoever led this thread into another discussion of Tuberville's recruiting should be shot in front of his family.
Now which one of you are responsible?!
I blame Birmingham. Or 13NCs.
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Whoever led this thread into another discussion of Tuberville's recruiting should be shot in front of his family.
Now which one of you are responsible?!
Searching.. searching..
CTT's recruiting efforts towards the end of his career might have well been the NCAA Hammer.
And... we have a winner.
From page one of this thread, followed by JR giving a hearty fuck you from Lutz and many more.
Line up the family and commence firing.
Of course Prowler never said any such thing. Just ask him. He told Jumbo that.
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Whoever led this thread into another discussion of Tuberville's recruiting should be shot in front of his family.
Now which one of you are responsible?!
True dat. We'll return to our regularly scheduled Lord Saybinz bashing after these messages from our fine sponsors.
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True dat. We'll return to our regularly scheduled Lord Saybinz bashing after these messages from our fine sponsors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwhMoQBg_8
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So, I'm confused. Are we supposed to like Tuberville or hate him? I'll hang up and listen.
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So, I'm confused. Are we supposed to like Tuberville or hate him? I'll hang up and listen.
Seriously? I've got to answer that again?
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Searching.. searching..
And... we have a winner.
From page one of this thread, followed by JR giving a hearty fuck you from Lutz and many more.
Line up the family and commence firing.
Of course Prowler never said any such thing. Just ask him. He told Jumbo that.
My #1 preference would be to just move on and let it be history. However, I'm not going to let anybody take free shots...shots that are just moronic as hell... at the worlds greatest coach ever in the history of the world, Coach Thomas Hawley Tuberville. Prowler, CCTAU, GH, take your shots if you're compelled...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DL1yfQFa4o
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Seriously? I've got to answer that again?
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He served some mean BBQ, I'll give him that... It's too bad DKW always ruined the festivities with his mouth placed solely around Tubby's cock.
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He served some mean BBQ, I'll give him that... It's too bad DKW always ruined the festivities with his mouth placed solely around Tubby's cock.
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To quote your own avatar tagline from way back:
Lighten up, Francis.
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There are so many pre madonnas here, it's sort of a mute point.
Someone is going to get raped over the coals.
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To quote your own avatar tagline from way back:
Lighten up, Francis.
I think he missed my sarcasm. However, his use of Tubby pictures gave me a great idea. Tuberville face palm smiley, etc... Get on it Brian (dance monkey).
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To quote your own avatar tagline from way back:
Lighten up, Francis.
What do you think I'm doing? You don't see the humor in a Tuberville face palm? Seemed like it struck just the right balance between absurdity and pathos.
I got the sarcasm completely, thus the photo.
You're Francis.
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What do you think I'm doing? You don't see the humor in a Tuberville face palm? Seemed like it struck just the right balance between absurdity and pathos.
I got the sarcasm completely, thus the photo.
You're Francis.
No I'm not. You are.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMXYE_50Ts&feature=feedrec_grec_index (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMXYE_50Ts&feature=feedrec_grec_index)
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If Nick Fairley had been able to qualify out of HS, he would've been a Guard under CTT, not the Violent DT that he became under Coach Chizik.
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Come on guys, ya'll know Kaos has a bromance with Tuberville. Just leave him the hell alone about it, geez.
bromance - (bro-mance) considered as a deep feeling that one man has towards another; man crush or man love.
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If Nick Fairley had been able to qualify out of HS, he would've been a Guard under CTT, not the Violent DT that he became under Coach Chizik.
Yet another sham supposition which cannot be proven or disporoven but that you use as "factual" justification to throw stones.
This kind of baseless conjecture exemplifies what JR so clearly pointed out about your failed arguments.
Do you smell what's cooking here?
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Do you smell what's cooking here?
BBQ?
One of the better side effects of playing Oregon for the Title....I was inspired to learn how to cook duck.
Man, what a delicacy. Pan seared the duck (butter, olive oil, dash of soy sauce, spices) and then thinly sliced the meat and served with wild rice and a mushroom-merlot duck gravy on homemade biscuits.
Learned that duck can be served medium rare..........unlike chicken which must be well-done.
When it warms up a little, I shall venture outside and see if I can grill it as good as I sear it.........a little apple wood should do nicely.
WDE
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Yet another sham supposition which cannot be proven or disporoven but that you use as "factual" justification to throw stones.
This kind of baseless conjecture exemplifies what JR so clearly pointed out about your failed arguments.
Do you smell what's cooking here?
Auburn was actually bringing Nick Fairley in as a Tight End, out of HS, with the thoughts of him gaining weight to move him down to the Guard position.
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BBQ?
One of the better side effects of playing Oregon for the Title....I was inspired to learn how to cook duck.
Man, what a delicacy. Pan seared the duck (butter, olive oil, dash of soy sauce, spices) and then thinly sliced the meat and served with wild rice and a mushroom-merlot duck gravy on homemade biscuits.
Learned that duck can be served medium rare..........unlike chicken which must be well-done.
When it warms up a little, I shall venture outside and see if I can grill it as good as I sear it.........a little apple wood should do nicely.
WDE
There was a little cafe in Malbis that used to serve duck. With a side of steamed spinach.
It was outstanding. Quite good.
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Wabbit Season
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Over the last day, I had been battling with the quandary of how Tubs was able to get his 1 cock in both Kaos' and JR's mouths at the same time. But then it occurred to me that Tubs used both his cock AND balls thus enabling him to place his genitalia in both mouths at the same time.
Mystery solved.
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Auburn was actually bringing Nick Fairley in as a Tight End, out of HS, with the thoughts of him gaining weight to move him down to the Guard position.
That was his position in high school, but you have no clue what the plans were or how they would have panned out. He was just over 250 coming out of high school and was 294 by the time he got to AU. You can't say with any degree of certainty what his position would have been.
And you still have no idea whatsoever what would have happened to him after he was resigned out of juco.
He might have been quarterback. Or fullback. Or safety. No player has EVER been recruited at one position and played another. Ever.
Baseless conjecture and supposition.
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Come on guys, ya'll know Kaos has a bromance with Tuberville. Just leave him the hell alone about it, geez.
bromance - (bro-mance) considered as a deep feeling that one man has towards another; man crush or man love.
Did you really feel it was necessary to give us the definition of the word bromance?
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Did you really feel it was necessary to give us the definition of the word bromance?
Sometimes I feel the need to give the definition of Afghani Gas Mask http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=afghani+gas+mask
or
Horn of Odin http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=horn+of+odin
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Sometimes I feel the need to give the definition of Afghani Gas Mask http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=afghani+gas+mask
or
Horn of Odin http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=horn+of+odin
And thanks for that. I now have another mental image I can never scrub out.
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Did you really feel it was necessary to give us the definition of the word bromance?
It loses its punch when it has to be explained. Or when it doesn't, but you explain anyway.
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And thanks for that. I now have another mental image I can never scrub out.
yes but did you like how the horn is used in a sentence?
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yes but did you like how the horn is used in a sentence?
I like who it was added by
and technically shouldn't it be Elliott and Jonathan?
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I prefer the definition of Blumkin
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blumkin
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I prefer the definition of Blumkin
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blumkin
It's called a blumpkin.
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yes but did you like how the horn is used in a sentence?
You defined Afghani Gas mask for me in Auburn... again, not enough mental bleach.
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Did you really feel it was necessary to give us the definition of the word bromance?
Well there seems to be some confusion going on in this thread so I felt it necessary to make it clear.
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It's called a blumpkin.
I have heard it pronounced both ways, and I knew what it was before you had even kissed your first boy.
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There was a little cafe in Malbis that used to serve duck. With a side of steamed spinach.
It was outstanding. Quite good.
did not think of the spinach.....will try that the next time.
There are a number of little "hole in the wall" places in Baldwin County that one can find some very interesting and very good food.
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I have heard it pronounced both ways, and I knew what it was before you had even kissed your first boy.
I thought you didn't kiss and tell?
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I thought you didn't kiss and tell?
ZING
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I thought you didn't kiss and tell?
That was the day GF had his ass on his shoulders.
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For duck the Basil Duck at Surin of Thailand in Huntsville is unbeatable. From the menu
Half a marinated duck, de-boned, fried crisp and topped with a
Thai basil sauce made with fresh bell pepper, chilies, and onions
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For duck the Basil Duck at Surin of Thailand in Huntsville is unbeatable. From the menu
Meh, wasn't that wild of about it. Always go with a #2 Sushi Special Comboniation. Spicy Shrimp and Rock & Roll are where it's at.
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That was his position in high school, but you have no clue what the plans were or how they would have panned out. He was just over 250 coming out of high school and was 294 by the time he got to AU. You can't say with any degree of certainty what his position would have been.
And you still have no idea whatsoever what would have happened to him after he was resigned out of juco.
He might have been quarterback. Or fullback. Or safety. No player has EVER been recruited at one position and played another. Ever.
Baseless conjecture and supposition.
With the lack of depth and with Chaz getting hurt he would've been pigeonholed on the OL, remember CTT didn't bring in a OL for the '08 Class, only 3 of the '07 Class qualified, Fairley would've been #4. So yeah, by lack of depth, I can say that Fairley would've been stuck. Boom goes the dynamite.
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With the lack of depth and with Chaz getting hurt he would've been pigeonholed on the OL, remember CTT didn't bring in a OL for the '08 Class, only 3 of the '07 Class qualified, Fairley would've been #4. So yeah, by lack of depth, I can say that Fairley would've been stuck. Boom goes the dynamite.
Whatever you say is gross speculation. You have no idea whatsoever what would actually have transpired. You can make up scenarios and devise possibilities until the cows come home but since it didn't happen you don't KNOW shit.
In case you didn't notice, the starting OL this season all came to AU before Fairley. You don't know who might have been recruited in 2009.
It's all supposition. And it means nothing.
For the record? Boom goes the dynamite is one of the stupidest things you say. Typically you call boom when the best you have is a fizzle.
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With the lack of depth and with Chaz getting hurt he would've been pigeonholed on the OL, remember CTT didn't bring in a OL for the '08 Class, only 3 of the '07 Class qualified, Fairley would've been #4. So yeah, by lack of depth, I can say that Fairley would've been stuck. Boom goes the dynamite.
So after he went the JUCO route, you are saying that TT would have still signed him as a OL? Or are you saying if he never went JUCO, he would have been stuck on OL while at Auburn?
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So Tuberville could recruit, he just couldn't develop raw talent?
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So after he went the JUCO route, you are saying that TT would have still signed him as a OL? Or are you saying if he never went JUCO, he would have been stuck on OL while at Auburn?
Just like Jay Ratliff remained a TE...
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just like Tim Duckworth remained a DT...
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Like Ben Grubbs remained a DE like his recruited position...
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So after he went the JUCO route, you are saying that TT would have still signed him as a OL? Or are you saying if he never went JUCO, he would have been stuck on OL while at Auburn?
I'm saying that if he'd never went the JUCO route.
In case you didn't notice, the starting OL this season all came to AU before Fairley. You don't know who might have been recruited in 2009.
OL Lee Ziemba, OL Ryan Pugh, TE/OL Nick Fairley (didn't qualify) & DE A.J. Greene all came in with the '07 Class. TE/OL Brandon Moseley came in with the '10 Class. So....yeah, you're wrong AGAIN.
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AJ Greene, the starting RT on offense this year, came in as a DE...Chiz and them moved him to offense. Lucky for us they left Fairley at DT.
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Prowler, serious question...
When you spout complete bullshit conjecture as if it's a hard fact, do you really expect folks to take you seriously and believe that's what would have happened simply because you said so?
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Prowler, serious question...
When you spout complete bullshit conjecture as if it's a hard fact, do you really expect folks to take you seriously and believe that's what would have happened simply because you said so?
All the voices in his head take him seriously - what's your problem?
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Like Ben Grubbs remained a DE like his recruited position...
Like AJ Greene remained a DE.
Like Byron Isom remained a DT
Like Bart Eddins remained a DT
Notice a trend? DL to OL....not vice versa.
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Like AJ Greene remained a DE.
Like Byron Isom remained a DT
Like Bart Eddins remained a DT
Notice a trend? DL to OL....not vice versa.
Yeah, Tubs was all about that offense! Seriously dude, you're just being stupid now. As far as I can tell, Chiz and the boys made Greene an OT...I mean, since they signed Fairley and all...right?
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With the lack of depth and with Chaz getting hurt he would've been pigeonholed on the OL, remember CTT didn't bring in a OL for the '08 Class, only 3 of the '07 Class qualified, Fairley would've been #4. So yeah, by lack of depth, I can say that Fairley would've been stuck. Boom goes the dynamite.
Arguments derived from probabilities are idle. --- Plato
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Arguments derived from probabilities are idle. --- Plato
Prowler's arguments are dog turds left to dry in the August sun.
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Prowler's arguments are dog turds left to dry in the August sun.
Whose dick is currently in your mouth? Tuberville or Kaos? Or Both?
I'm kidding before you get mad.
unless I'm not.
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Whose dick is currently in your mouth? Tuberville or Kaos? Or Both?
I'm kidding before you get mad.
unless I'm not.
The folly of fools isn't maddening. Sometimes pathetically sad, sometime mildly irritating to have to tolerate in order to read other's ideas, but not maddening. Sometimes, it's quite entertaining the lenghts some will go to in order to attempt to prove their point, which even if proved, would be meaningless.
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AJ had to move, because of ZERO depth. Fairley moved to DL in JUCO. That's where Coach Chizik wanted him to stay.
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The folly of fools isn't maddening. Sometimes pathetically sad, sometime mildly irritating to have to tolerate in order to read other's ideas, but not maddening. Sometimes, it's quite entertaining the lenghts some will go to in order to attempt to prove their point, which even if proved, would be meaningless.
I am the master of the C.L.I.T. Remember this fucking face. Whenever you see C.L.I.T., you'll see this fucking face. I make that shit work. It does whatever the fuck I tell it to. No one rules the C.L.I.T like me. Not this little fuck, none of you little fucks out there. I AM THE C.L.I.T. COMMANDER! Remember that, commander of all C.L.I.T.s! When it comes down to business, this is what I do. I pinch it like this. OOH you little fuck. Then I rub my nose with it.
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Whose dick is currently in your mouth? Tuberville or Kaos? Or Both?
I'm kidding before you get mad.
unless I'm not.
Both and I never slice.
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I'm saying that if he'd never went the JUCO route.
OL Lee Ziemba, OL Ryan Pugh, TE/OL Nick Fairley (didn't qualify) & DE A.J. Greene all came in with the '07 Class. TE/OL Brandon Moseley came in with the '10 Class. So....yeah, you're wrong AGAIN.
If he'd never "went" to high school, he would be a bouncer at a titty bar on Airport Blvd in Mobile.
If he'd never "went" to Kentucky Fried Chicken he would only like hamburgers.
"If he'd a never he woulda... "
Complete conjecture. Unsupportable.
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I'm saying that if he'd never went the JUCO route.
OL Lee Ziemba, OL Ryan Pugh, TE/OL Nick Fairley (didn't qualify) & DE A.J. Greene all came in with the '07 Class. TE/OL Brandon Moseley came in with the '10 Class. So....yeah, you're wrong AGAIN.
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Would it not be much fuck'n easier to go back and look at previous cruiten classes and depth fuck'n charts to dispute this rather everyone call each other a dumbass? No, of course not.
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Would it not be much fuck'n easier to go back and look at previous cruiten classes and depth fuck'n charts to dispute this rather everyone call each other a dumbass? No, of course not.
Hey dumbass. :rofl:
You can look at whatever you want, but nobody can predict what would have happened with any degree of certainty.
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Hey dumbass. :rofl:
You can look at whatever you want, but nobody can predict what would have happened with any degree of certainty.
Hey dumbass Tuberville, how about you take your energy from making everyone look like a dumbass and go back and look at Fairleys original position on the Auburn depth chart and the position he was recruited as instead of post after post of the Kaos opinion. hahahaha :rofl:
I don't see either you or Prowler putting forth that effort, a whole lot of effort to point fingers of who the biggest idiot is. Now, please go fuck yourself with your diddys dildo and shut the fuck up.
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Hey dumbass Tuberville, how about you take your energy from making everyone look like a dumbass and go back and look at Fairleys original position on the Auburn depth chart and the position he was recruited as instead of post after post of the Kaos opinion. hahahaha :rofl:
I don't see either you or Prowler putting forth that effort, a whole lot of effort to point fingers of who the biggest idiot is. Now, please go fuck yourself with your diddys dildo and shut the fuck up.
Are you joining the "Tuberville sux, and I can prove it by speculating what he would have done" club?
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Are you joining the "Tuberville sux, and I can prove it by speculating what he would have done" club?
He's not only joining, he's a flag waving standard bearer.
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Over the last day, I had been battling with the quandary of how Tubs was able to get his 1 cock in both Kaos' and JR's mouths at the same time. But then it occurred to me that Tubs used both his cock AND balls thus enabling him to place his genitalia in both mouths at the same time.
Mystery solved.
Hey Kaos....Boom goes the dynamite.
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Are you joining the "Tuberville sux, and I can prove it by speculating what he would have done" club?
No, I am trying to get Kaos and Prowler to realize that there little spat can be settled by mere previous depth charts and rosters. I have the feeling that is not what they're looking for, though. They just like to argue.
As for Tuberville, I liked him when he was at Auburn and I still like him at T Tech. He is a man just like the rest of us on this board, well except for a few. He had a good run and got tired towards the end.
Fuck it, who cares.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no
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HAHAHAHAHAHA...
"Thanks for that look in to sports Brian."
"Yeah"
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I like who it was added by
and technically shouldn't it be Elliott and Jonathan?
I couldn't believe that it wasn't in there.
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The bait was laid. And a few on here swallowed the hook. To the tune of over 10 pages.....
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No, I am trying to get Kaos and Prowler to realize that there little spat can be settled by mere previous depth charts and rosters. I have the feeling that is not what they're looking for, though. They just like to argue.
Yes. Depth charts are just like crystal balls. You can gaze into them and ascertain exactly what would happen three or four years down the road. We can use depth charts to pick winning lottery numbers, to see who's going to win the 2015 World Series and see how Dexter is going to end.
Christ almighty.
Leave the peacekeeping to the fucking UN. They're better at it than this.
Depth charts can settle.... *chuckle*
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I believe the term we use round here is *snicker*
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I believe the term we use round here is *snicker*
Listen to him. He's pre-med.
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I believe the term we use round here is *snicker*
Only because I once deemed it so. I have converted to *chuckle*
Didn't you get the memo?
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*chortle*
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I prefer a hearty *tee hee*
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:facepalm: son.of.a.bitch, you've got to be kidding me right?
Listen, you two are arguing over dumb shit. Yes, you called it speculation to try and read a HC's mind or his plans for certain players. Wow, thanks for the enlightenment. Depth charts and rosters will show exactly what a player is/was recruited to play, so thats pretty much takes out all the guess work. Again, yes, everything else is speculation.
The UN? What the hell is the UN going to do for this board except be targets of farks and photoshop.
*guffaw*
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This is what I have really missed about not having Kaos. You can read any page of a 14 page thread and the usernames may change, but the rhetoric doesn't from page to page.
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I prefer a hearty *tee hee*
I'm still stuck on lol. You fuckers are driving vettes, and I'm driving a damn gremlin.
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:facepalm: son.of.a.bitch, you've got to be kidding me right?
Listen, you two are arguing over dumb shit. Yes, you called it speculation to try and read a HC's mind or his plans for certain players. Wow, thanks for the enlightenment. Depth charts and rosters will show exactly what a player is/was recruited to play, so thats pretty much takes out all the guess work. Again, yes, everything else is speculation.
The UN? What the hell is the UN going to do for this board except be targets of farks and photoshop.
*guffaw*
Son of a fuckersnickle.
You totally missed the point of the entire discussion. Doesn't. make.a.fuck.in.a.wicker.basket.what.position.a.kid.played.in.high.school.or.what.he.was.recruited.as.
Knowing that is of zero value when you're talking about what "might" have happened.
Maybe you should go back over to woopig and look for your ass.
*hahaha!*
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I'm still stuck on lol. You fuckers are driving vettes, and I'm driving a damn gremlin.
roflcopter
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Son of a fuckersnickle.
You totally missed the point of the entire discussion. Doesn't. make.a.fuck.in.a.wicker.basket.what.position.a.kid.played.in.high.school.or.what.he.was.recruited.as.
Knowing that is of zero value when you're talking about what "might" have happened.
Maybe you should go back over to woopig and look for your ass.
*hahaha!*
No gooberlick, you're missing my point (which is somewhat the same point you made but for whatever reason you want to argue with now). Its impossible to speculate what a coach is planning on doing with a player in the future. The only thing we know for sure is what position he is listed as on the depth chart. Tuberville recruited Fairley as an OL and Chizik recruited him as a DL. So, other than that its just you and Prowler in a pissing contest.
If you would get Tubbs penis out of your ass, you wouldn't be so anal.
*titter*
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Son of a fuckersnickle.
You totally missed the point of the entire discussion. Doesn't. make.a.fuck.in.a.wicker.basket.what.position.a.kid.played.in.high.school.or.what.he.was.recruited.as.
Knowing that is of zero value when you're talking about what "might" have happened.
Maybe you should go back over to woopig and look for your ass.
*hahaha!*
I.see.what.you.did.there.
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I.see.what.you.did.there.
Still taking the bait.....is the only acceptable answer here.
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Still taking the bait.....is the only acceptable answer here.
I enjoy the debate. Alpha and omega of that.
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Tuberville recruited Fairley as an OL and Chizik recruited him as a DL.
Ridiculous.
Coming out of HS, Fairley was listed as a TE/OL/DL prospect. He didn't qualify and went juco where he entered the rotation on defense.
He wasn't "recruited as" by either (and even if he was, that doesn't mean diddly shit because kids are constantly recruited at one position and end up somewhere else).
Unless you are actually Tommy Tuberville or Hugh Nall or Terry Price or one of the other assistants you cannot say with even a smidgen of accuracy how he would have been used at AU if Tuberville had stayed and he'd returned from juco, it Tuberville stayed and he didn't go juco, if Chizik had him and he hadn't gone juco.
Your attempt at a point is even worse than Prowler's. At least he understands that he's just making shit up.
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...Prowler's. At least he understands that he's just making shit up.
I call bullshit!
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I was recruited to Auburn by Baseball Coach, Paul Nix, as a pitcher.
Then after I enrolled and went through Fall Practice, he said I sucked. I thought I was really good and he said no....you really do suck. So see? You can't really speculate.
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Ridiculous.
Coming out of HS, Fairley was listed as a TE/OL/DL prospect. He didn't qualify and went juco where he entered the rotation on defense.
He wasn't "recruited as" by either (and even if he was, that doesn't mean diddly shit because kids are constantly recruited at one position and end up somewhere else).
Unless you are actually Tommy Tuberville or Hugh Nall or Terry Price or one of the other assistants you cannot say with even a smidgen of accuracy how he would have been used at AU if Tuberville had stayed and he'd returned from juco, it Tuberville stayed and he didn't go juco, if Chizik had him and he hadn't gone juco.
No shit, really? Put your glasses on an read my post a little better. Of course you can't read their mind but they are listed on the depth chart at some position, they are listed on the recruiting boards at some position, etc. As for Fairley, what I posted above is what he was listed as. So, without speculating, this is what a person on the outside looking in (that be us) has to go on.
A good example would be Quan Bray out of this years class. He is currently listed as a RB. Does that mean he will be used as a RB his whole career at Auburn? How the hell does anyone know but as for now we have to believe that this is where he will be used. Please explain further Kaos how this is not the only logical, non-"speculating" approach for a fan to take?
By the way, I know what you're doing and that is debate but it seems to me that your are debating yourself somewhat.
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No shit, really? Put your glasses on an read my post a little better. Of course you can't read their mind but they are listed on the depth chart at some position, they are listed on the recruiting boards at some position, etc. As for Fairley, what I posted above is what he was listed as. So, without speculating, this is what a person on the outside looking in (that be us) has to go on.
A good example would be Quan Bray out of this years class. He is currently listed as a RB. Does that mean he will be used as a RB his whole career at Auburn? How the hell does anyone know but as for now we have to believe that this is where he will be used. Please explain further Kaos how this is not the only logical, non-"speculating" approach for a fan to take?
By the way, I know what you're doing and that is debate but it seems to me that your are debating yourself somewhat.
Fail.
You don't even know what you're talking about.
You said depth charts could clear things up. Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. The only way they could is if they can be used to predict the future with 100% accuracy.
Nick was recruited as a TE/DL. Says so on his profile. Once again, unless you ARE Tuberville or one of his assistants you can't say how they might have used him -- or how that use might have changed once practice started.
Fail. Fail. Faility. Fail on your part.
You're dismissed. Please bring Prowler back to continue this. He doesn't make any more sense and fails just as spectacularly, but at least he's aware that he's spewing inane bullshit and does it just for show. You actually think you're crafting a cogent argument. Yikes.
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Stupid to argue that you know where a kid will wind up. All a coach has to do is say, hey kid, you're 3rd on the depth chart at tailback and we blow chunks in the secondary. You WILL go over there and start getting reps at corner at practice tomorrow.
Although, I'm just speculating about what a coach might say.
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Stupid to argue that you know where a kid will wind up. All a coach has to do is say, hey kid, you're 3rd on the depth chart at tailback and we blow chunks in the secondary. You WILL go over there and start getting reps at corner at practice tomorrow.
Although, I'm just speculating about what a coach might say.
I think if you'll just consult an Ouija board that will clear everything up. Then again, you just like to argue.
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I think if you'll just consult an Ouija board that will clear everything up. Then again, you just like to argue.
Only b/c he cares so much.
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Please see Jumbo for your annual quote function tutorial
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He got 23'd.
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He got 23'd.
We need a new emoticon.
GF, make it be...
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Please see Jumbo for your annual quote function tutorial
Yes, the next class he host I will sign up for......speaking of which, is there something up with the board today? It seems a bit slow for some reason and I am getting time out errors where I can't connect to the server. Could be on my end, but I haven't noticed it on other sites.
This:
The connection has timed out
The server at www.tigersx.com is taking too long to respond.
* The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
moments.
* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.
* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
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We need a new emoticon.
GF, make it be...
I'm still waiting on the Tuberville face palm emoticon. Hold your horses.
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I'm still waiting on the Tuberville face palm emoticon. Hold your horses.
I vote for this also.
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I'm still waiting on the Tuberville face palm emoticon. Hold your horses.
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Fail.
You don't even know what you're talking about.
You said depth charts could clear things up. Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. The only way they could is if they can be used to predict the future with 100% accuracy.
Nick was recruited as a TE/DL. Says so on his profile. Once again, unless you ARE Tuberville or one of his assistants you can't say how they might have used him -- or how that use might have changed once practice started.
Fail. Fail. Faility. Fail on your part.
You're dismissed. Please bring Prowler back to continue this. He doesn't make any more sense and fails just as spectacularly, but at least he's aware that he's spewing inane bullshit and does it just for show. You actually think you're crafting a cogent argument. Yikes.
Does it say so on his profile? His original profile out of hs?
TE...now that would be fun to watch. Seriously.
rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Nick-Fairley-46796;_ylt=Akv.ro0qsJPX7qHFahe6_HY5rJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Nick-Fairley-46796;_ylt=Akv.ro0qsJPX7qHFahe6_HY5rJB4)
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I was recruited to Auburn by Baseball Coach, Paul Nix, as a pitcher.
Then after I enrolled and went through Fall Practice, he said I sucked. I thought I was really good and he said no....you really do suck. So see? You can't really speculate.
Yes but were you on your knees when he said this? Context could be everything.
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Does it say so on his profile? His original profile out of hs?
TE...now that would be fun to watch. Seriously.
Scout profile. Says OL/DL and projects him as an OG.
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2425827
Then it talks about his work at TE. He was used primarily as a blocker but caught five passes for 150 yards. Also played DE in HS, not tackle.
I guess if you want to give credit to anybody you should give it to the coaches at Co-Lin. They moved him to defense. Also moved him from end to tackle I assume. Wonder if they did that at Tuberville's behest since Chizik wasn't in the picture at the time? Hmmm.
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Yes but were you on your knees when he said this? Context could be everything.
You know, had I thought about getting on my knees, I might have been something. I coulda' been a contender.
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We need a new emoticon.
GF, make it be...
:23:
and we have a face palm emoticon
:facepalm:
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:23:
and we have a face palm emoticon
:facepalm:
I dig the 23'd. I see what you did there with the black & white. Nice touch.
Still would prefer the Tuberville facepalm for the sake of uniqueness.
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You said depth charts could clear things up. Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. The only way they could is if they can be used to predict the future with 100% accuracy.
Yes I did say the depth chart would clear it up and I agree you have to predict the future to see where a player will end up. I am not suggesting anyone predict the future. I am suggesting the only way you know what a coach has in store for a particular player at the present time is by looking at a damn depth chart or roster. Sure those position labels may change but until they do, that is the only thing you as a fan has to go on. You do know a coach has the final say in what position a kid is listed as right? So when rosters come out, it would be safe to say that you know what the coach has in store for that kid for the time being. No you don't know what the coach is thinking but you know what he has agreed on putting on paper officially. Is that not one of the purposes of a roster is to let the fans know what position a kid plays? So, if you go back to any roster or chart that has any given player, from new signees to seniors, what you see has that kids position and is what the coach agrees to release to the fans.
Other than that, you telling me that a coach has no fucking clue what is being printed and given to the fans; there names, numbers, positions, etc? Who does the guy in charge of the rosters charts and gameday material get his info from the fucking garbage man? I guess he just puts whatever he wants to on there?
Again, I never said to predict anything, I said look to the roster from the coaches, past or present, to see what the coaches plans for that kid at that given time.
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Depth charts. Ur doin' it wrong.
Lord Saybinz haz kno depth charts.
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Yes I did say the depth chart would clear it up and I agree you have to predict the future to see where a player will end up. I am not suggesting anyone predict the future. I am suggesting the only way you know what a coach has in store for a particular player at the present time is by looking at a damn depth chart or roster. Sure those position labels may change but until they do, that is the only thing you as a fan has to go on. You do know a coach has the final say in what position a kid is listed as right? So when rosters come out, it would be safe to say that you know what the coach has in store for that kid for the time being. No you don't know what the coach is thinking but you know what he has agreed on putting on paper officially. Is that not one of the purposes of a roster is to let the fans know what position a kid plays? So, if you go back to any roster or chart that has any given player, from new signees to seniors, what you see has that kids position and is what the coach agrees to release to the fans.
Other than that, you telling me that a coach has no fucking clue what is being printed and given to the fans; there names, numbers, positions, etc? Who does the guy in charge of the rosters charts and gameday material get his info from the fucking garbage man? I guess he just puts whatever he wants to on there?
Again, I never said to predict anything, I said look to the roster from the coaches, past or present, to see what the coaches plans for that kid at that given time.
God. Damn.
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God. Damn.
yep, exactly.
:suicide:
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Anyone notice the title of this thread?
BTW - welcome back Kaos.
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God. Damn.
Suck it WE!!!
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Anyone notice the title of this thread?
BTW - welcome back Kaos.
now if only Galen would come back, we could discuss how much success & how quickly Notre Dame is going to return to relevancy.
:poke:
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now if only Galen would come back, we could discuss how much success & how quickly Notre Dame is going to return to relevancy.
:poke:
I think nd is right on track with what Kao....I mean Galen said.
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blah, blah, blah....I am suggesting the only way you know what a coach has in store for a particular player at the present time is by looking at a damn depth chart or roster. ...blah, blah, blah
And again... your suggestion is a failure.
The original concept is that "Tuberville would have used Fairley on the OL."
Let me see if I can clear it up for you.
NO MOTHERFUCKING DEPTH CHART, NO LIST OF PROSPECTS, NO MOTHERFUCKING OUIJA BOARD, NOT EVEN FUCKING NOSTRADAMUS CAN STATE THAT WITH ANY DEGREE OF CERTAINTY. ALL ANYBODY CAN DO IS GUESS.
Fuck dude, you're horrible at this. Please. Give up.
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How many Offensive Linemen move over to the Defense? Not that many. Maybe a handful in NCAA history & one was a player at West Alabama...he moved from OT to NG (Cliff Cobb 6'10" 455lbs+).
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How many Offensive Linemen move over to the Defense? Not that many. Maybe a handful in NCAA history & one was a player at West Alabama...he moved from OT to NG (Cliff Cobb 6'10" 455lbs+).
To Cliff Cobb :bar:
As was said earlier, CTT's staff did far more changing of DL's to OL. I think Andrew McCain might be the exception. He played everything except color commentator. I thnk one thing to look at is how many started on one side of the ball and actually got a shot and then were moved...out of necessity or just re-evaluating that player's strengths.
I imagine AJ Greene would be an example of them saying, you're never going to see the field much on D so beef up 20 pounds or so and try it at tackle. He was on D for several years. McCain came in as about a 240 pound TE if memory serves. He was moved to DE then eventually to offensive tackle. Goggans went the other way. I thought the guy had promise at TE but turned out his forte was teh tackling.
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How many Offensive Linemen move over to the Defense? Not that many. Maybe a handful in NCAA history & one was a player at West Alabama...he moved from OT to NG (Cliff Cobb 6'10" 455lbs+).
How many Auburn teams in the last 20 years won the national championship?
Oh, I guess that means Auburn couldn't possibly win it in 2010.
Logical fail, Prowler. You have no idea in the world how many players in NCAA history were recruited for offense and moved to defense. None. More bullshit.
Come back and let me know in ten years after you've completed a historical analysis of every player ever recruited who played offense in high school. You must take into account that most high schoolers play both ways so you'll have to guess which way they would be directed in college... oh wait... you can't.
Fail.
And for the last time as it pertains to Fairley, he moved to defense at Co-Lin. Since he was an AU recruit -- a Tuberville recruit -- did it ever occur to you that they were told/asked to work him on defense BY the Auburn staff that placed him there?
It's a total loss, Prowler. A complete fail on your part. Nice try, though. You'll have to find other rocks to throw at Tuberville. Maybe you don't like his new hairdo. Most don't. Try that as an avenue of attack.
I'm done now.
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I would like to go back to a point made about Fairleys JUCO coaches. They obviously picked up on the fact that he could be a mean ass DL, which I sure glad they did. It reminds me of Karlos Dansby. Recruited as a WR but left Auburn as bad ass LB, who is still taking heads off in the NFL. Both of these are great examples of how one has no clue how a player will end up. I'd say these two are pretty damn happy about that change of postion.
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The original concept is that "Tuberville would have used Fairley on the OL."
No, the original concept was a discussion of how Saban signed 56 and two/thirds players to fill openings in a roster of 85-or-maybe-less-or-maybe-more-spots-but-that-number-is-a-secret-so-fuck-off, and how he got pissy when someone challenged it at a presser.
So all y'all FAIL.
Sheeeeeit...
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You'll have to find other rocks to throw at Tuberville. Maybe you don't like his new hairdo. Most don't. Try that as an avenue of attack.
Amen, I would like to discuss this, I mean who is his fucking barber Howie Long? He needs to go back to the "do" he has in your avatar. It covers the ears.
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I would like to go back to a point made about Fairleys JUCO coaches. They obviously picked up on the fact that he could be a mean ass DL, which I sure glad they did. It reminds me of Karlos Dansby. Recruited as a WR but left Auburn as bad ass LB, who is still taking heads off in the NFL. Both of these are great examples of how one has no clue how a player will end up. I'd say these two are pretty damn happy about that change of postion.
Don't be ridiculous. No player ever recruited for offense transitions to defense.
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Don't be ridiculous. No player ever recruited for offense transitions to defense.
Damn it Kaos. Look at the depth chart. :poke:
It would be interesting to see the % of percentage of success from moving one side of the ball to the other, but I'm not gonna be the one going through that shit. I would have to say it would be easier to transition from offense to defense.
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No, the original concept was a discussion of how Saban signed 56 and two/thirds players to fill openings in a roster of 85-or-maybe-less-or-maybe-more-spots-but-that-number-is-a-secret-so-fuck-off, and how he got pissy when someone challenged it at a presser.
So all y'all FAIL.
Sheeeeeit...
Yeah, I said that above as well in fewer words.
And to snaggles post to Cliff Cobb.......helluva guy. I'd drink with Cliff Cobb anyday.
Legend has it that Nick and Cam have both sought the advice of Mr. Cobb.
Any man like Cliff Cobb, who can eat 52 goober pies in 1 sitting, gets the utmost respect. Knight the man already.
To Cliff Cobb! :bar:
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Yeah, I said that above as well in fewer words.
Mine was funnier but they paid attention to both of us equally well.
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Mine was funnier but they paid attention to both of us equally well.
And all equally missed the point.
Yes, yours was funnier.
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Mine was funnier but they paid attention to both of us equally well.
I speculated that Lord Saybinz would oversign this year.
To Cliff Cobb. Helluva guy. :bar:
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I speculated that Lord Saybinz would oversign this year.
To Cliff Cobb. Helluva guy. :bar:
Is Cliff Cobb on the depth chart? :poke:
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Stupid to argue that you know where a kid will wind up. All a coach has to do is say, hey kid, you're 3rd on the depth chart at tailback and we blow chunks in the secondary. You WILL go over there and start getting reps at corner at practice tomorrow.
Although, I'm just speculating about what a coach might say.
Who is chunks?
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Who is chunks?
Neiko Chunks. He changed his name again in hopes it would turn out better.
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I speculated that Lord Saybinz would oversign this year.
To Cliff Cobb. Helluva guy. :bar:
Not sure about Cliff, but I'm damn sure some fucker named Frodo is about to hit the 3* level at deep snapper. Sure he's just a hobbit, but he can guide anyone short of retardation through six to seven topic endings in one a single thread. I've seen the film on that guy. Total Pro.
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Neiko Chunks. He changed his name again in hopes it would turn out better.
If he's getting blown, I'd say it's working out pretty good for him.
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I upgraded my internet and cable package the other day. My upgrade includes additional HD channels and EPIX movie package.
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I upgraded my internet and cable package the other day. My upgrade includes additional HD channels and EPIX movie package.
What is this "cable" you speak of? My satellite is unaware of such antiquation.
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What is this "cable" you speak of? My satellite is unaware of such antiquation.
My "cable" is fiber optic.
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My "cable" is fiber optic.
My "satellite" is invisible. It's like magic.
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I signed up with DTV a few years ago. At that time, DTV was a top commodity. Much faster than what I had with tons of possibilities. Then a year or two passed, and DTV just wasn't living up to the expectations I had for it. Fortunately for me, I came across a sweet new deal with cable. Not only would it satisfy my needs for television, but it could also come into play for internet and phone. It was a huge upgrade compared to the DTV I had signed with a few years earlier.
Problem was, I didn't have room for cable and DTV. Who would? And I couldn't very well drop the DTV after I had just signed with them. So I did what any reasonable person would do. I dropped the system down a set of stairs, called up DTV and told them their equipment wasn't functioning correctly. Of course, I felt bad about the way I ended our relationship, so I called my neighbor and recommended they try DTV.
Worked out good for everyone.
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And for the last time as it pertains to Fairley, he moved to defense at Co-Lin. Since he was an AU recruit --a Tuberville recruit --did it ever occur to you that they were told/asked to work him on defense BY the Auburn staff that placed him there?
There you go, making an Ass outta yourself while assuming shit. Again, there MIGHT have been only a small handful of OL transition to DL, it's usually the other way around on the line. Everywhere else? It goes both ways....WRs to LB/S, QB to CB/S, CB/S to WR, TE to DE/LBer, DE/DT to OL/TE, RB to S/LB, S to RB, LB to FB/TE, FB/TE to LB/DE.
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There you go, making an Ass outta yourself while assuming shit. Again, there MIGHT have been only a small handful of OL transition to DL, it's usually the other way around on the line. Everywhere else? It goes both ways....WRs to LB/S, QB to CB/S, CB/S to WR, TE to DE/LBer, DE/DT to OL/TE, RB to S/LB, S to RB, LB to FB/TE, FB/TE to LB/DE.
WHO goes both ways? I mean, theres a few on here I suspect. But nothing I can prove.
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My "cable" is fiber optic.
FiOS is the
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTeCE7LtXVztjdhfVDEtRaCKjKkvNEcc_I82y04igHHc2tsNYGI)
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FiOS is the
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTeCE7LtXVztjdhfVDEtRaCKjKkvNEcc_I82y04igHHc2tsNYGI)
Definitely visible.
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There you go, making an Ass outta yourself while assuming shit. Again, there MIGHT have been only a small handful of OL transition to DL, it's usually the other way around on the line. Everywhere else? It goes both ways....WRs to LB/S, QB to CB/S, CB/S to WR, TE to DE/LBer, DE/DT to OL/TE, RB to S/LB, S to RB, LB to FB/TE, FB/TE to LB/DE.
Whether baiting or serious, now you're trying too hard...like a kid that did something funny by accident, gets a laugh, then keeps on doing the same shit over and over but in a contrived goofy way.
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There you go, making an Ass outta yourself while assuming shit. Again, there MIGHT have been only a small handful of OL transition to DL, it's usually the other way around on the line. Everywhere else? It goes both ways....WRs to LB/S, QB to CB/S, CB/S to WR, TE to DE/LBer, DE/DT to OL/TE, RB to S/LB, S to RB, LB to FB/TE, FB/TE to LB/DE.
Possibility. Assumption. There is a difference. You don't know what it is, but there is one.
What you posted there is a total load of unsupportable nonsense based on your own fart gas.
It's just not worth it.
(http://thematadorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tommy.jpg)
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Whether baiting or serious, now you're trying too hard...like a kid that did something funny by accident, gets a laugh, then keeps on doing the same shit over and over but in a contrived goofy way.
I honestly wasn't speaking for prowler when referring to the baiting. I dunno if he was or not. I know I was and I do know token was. In fact he's brilliant at it.
It's all good. Entertainment to me. It's a Fucking message board.
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I honestly wasn't speaking for prowler when referring to the baiting. I dunno if he was or not. I know I was and I do know token was. In fact he's brilliant at it.
It's all good. Entertainment to me. It's a Fucking message board.
Token is obvious.
You also mistake my boredom for passion. I argue for sport, to have something to do at work. It's a diversion that allows me to bounce between work and goofing off. If I can piss off a few along the way? Sweet.
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I honestly wasn't speaking for prowler when referring to the baiting. I dunno if he was or not. I know I was and I do know token was. In fact he's brilliant at it.
It's all good. Entertainment to me. It's a Fucking message board.
As stated, Token is good at it, and obvious. Prowler, not so much...in fact he's serious as a motherfucker when he claims Tubs would have done something. He means it, and he expects you to buy it as if it's pure D fact. I know you just take your shots at Tubs because you can't fucking help it, they just fly out of your fingertips without conscience thought, but I can't recall seeing you cling to a completely idiotic and conjured up assertion like Prowler is here to prove your point.
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As stated, Token is good at it, and obvious. Prowler, not so much...in fact he's serious as a motherfucker when he claims Tubs would have done something. He means it, and he expects you to buy it as if it's pure D fact. I know you just take your shots at Tubs because you can't fucking help it, they just fly out of your fingertips without conscience thought, but I can't recall seeing you cling to a completely idiotic and conjured up assertion like Prowler is here to prove your point.
*snicker*
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*snicker*
Discovered a new tool for your troll belt eh? You seem to have been taking lessons at al.com.
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Possibility. Assumption. There is a difference. You don't know what it is, but there is one.
What you posted there is a total load of unsupportable nonsense based on your own fart gas.
It's just not worth it.
(http://thematadorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tommy.jpg)
When did Under Armour take over for Nike at Texas?