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Re: Bin Laden has assumed room temp!
« Reply #100 on: May 02, 2011, 09:39:34 PM »
Really need to actually listen to it again.  There were more "We" in that speech than "I".  People hear what their hearts want them to hear.  Also, who fuckin' cares if Pres. Obama knocked outta the park with his speech...the message of the speech was what people should've been listening to.  Obama's not a actor.  Again, listen to the speech.  Listen to the message.  Post all of the "I" usage.  Former Pres. GWB started the fight, Pres. Obama finished it.


Wait....his tie was slightly crooked.  BOOOOO!!!!!!! We want a Leader Not a Loser!!! BOOOOOOO!!!!

I heard what was there, Prowler.   There was no we.  There was a shit-ton of I, though. 

I care if he did the speech right.  It was a significant opportunity to send a message to the world.  Instead, it was framed as a political opportunity for the Narcissist in Chief.   

Even beyond the self-indulgent mugging for the camera, the worst of it was the "make no mistake, we are not at war with Islam" line.  It was unnecessary. 
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« Reply #101 on: May 02, 2011, 09:55:51 PM »
I don't have ANY love for BO.  I personally don't expect him to ever be "presidential".  So last night was no surprise.  That said, I don't think it's a big deal..."WE" did get that mother fucker. 

I got no problem with the way Kaos is thinking either.  Some folks NEVER gave GW any credit, and no matter what he said, he was made fun of, poked at, called stupid...EVERY FUCKING time.  From some quarters he was shown NO respect. 

So, BO gets some of the same.  Tit for tat.  I hate BO gets to claim it as his victory, but I'm glad we got the victory.
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« Reply #102 on: May 02, 2011, 10:05:49 PM »
I don't have ANY love for BO.  I personally don't expect him to ever be "presidential".  So last night was no surprise.  That said, I don't think it's a big deal..."WE" did get that mother fucker. 

I got no problem with the way Kaos is thinking either.  Some folks NEVER gave GW any credit, and no matter what he said, he was made fun of, poked at, called stupid...EVERY FUCKING time.  From some quarters he was shown NO respect. 

So, BO gets some of the same.  Tit for tat.  I hate BO gets to claim it as his victory, but I'm glad we got the victory.

GWB = Cam? 
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« Reply #103 on: May 02, 2011, 10:12:23 PM »
GWB = Cam?

Cam, Chizik, take your pick.
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« Reply #104 on: May 02, 2011, 10:24:50 PM »
I don't have ANY love for BO.  I personally don't expect him to ever be "presidential".  So last night was no surprise.  That said, I don't think it's a big deal..."WE" did get that mother fucker. 

I got no problem with the way Kaos is thinking either.  Some folks NEVER gave GW any credit, and no matter what he said, he was made fun of, poked at, called stupid...EVERY FUCKING time.  From some quarters he was shown NO respect. 

So, BO gets some of the same.  Tit for tat.  I hate BO gets to claim it as his victory, but I'm glad we got the victory.
That was kind of my point. It drove me fucking nuts when the hippies were treasonous, and it pisses me off just the same that the conservatives are now. Maybe even a smidge more due to the hypocrisy of the so-called "patriots".

Even beyond the self-indulgent mugging for the camera, the worst of it was the "make no mistake, we are not at war with Islam" line.  It was unnecessary. 
You are aware that there are Muslims in America, right?

Ones that pay taxes, love being Americans, and in no way wish any ill will upon their fellow Americans.

I'd be willing to bet you don't know one personally, so it's easy for you to make such a broad generalization.

I hate to be this blunt, but that type of thinking is purely ignorant. Sorry. We are/were at war with the Taliban. With Al Qaeda. With Hezbollah. With Terrorists. Not with the Islamic religion. To think that we are, or should be, is on the same hateful ignorant wavelength as those we are at war against.
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« Reply #105 on: May 02, 2011, 10:34:28 PM »
Let the nitpicking begin:
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Good evening.  Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who’s responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

 

It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history.  The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory -- hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.

 

And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world.  The empty seat at the dinner table.  Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father.  Parents who would never know the feeling of their child’s embrace.  Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.

 

On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together.  We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood.  We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country.  On that day, no matter where we came from, what God we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.

 

We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice.  We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda -- an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe.  And so we went to war against al Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

 

Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we’ve made great strides in that effort.  We’ve disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense.  In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support.  And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.

 

Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan.  Meanwhile, al Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.

 

And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

 

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden.  It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground.  I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan.  And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

 

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.  A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability.  No Americans were harmed.  They took care to avoid civilian casualties.  After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

 

For over two decades, bin Laden has been al Qaeda’s leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies.  The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al Qaeda.

 

Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort.  There’s no doubt that al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us.  We must –- and we will -- remain vigilant at home and abroad.

 

As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not –- and never will be -– at war with Islam.  I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam.  Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims.  Indeed, al Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own.  So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

 

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was.  That is what we’ve done.  But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding.  Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

 

Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts.  They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations.  And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

 

The American people did not choose this fight.  It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens.  After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war.  These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who’s been gravely wounded.

 

So Americans understand the costs of war.  Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed.  We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies.  We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al Qaeda’s terror:  Justice has been done.

 

Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who’ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome.  The American people do not see their work, nor know their names.  But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

 

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country.  And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

 

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.

 

And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11.  I know that it has, at times, frayed.  Yet today’s achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

 

The cause of securing our country is not complete.  But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to.  That is the story of our history, whether it’s the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.

 

Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are:  one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

 

Thank you.  May God bless you.  And may God bless the United States of America.

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Re: Bin Laden has assumed room temp!
« Reply #107 on: May 02, 2011, 11:06:18 PM »
Love your enemies, for they tell you your faults.
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« Reply #108 on: May 02, 2011, 11:06:52 PM »
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiiosw_credit-fox-news_sport

At least the Auburn guy gave half an opinion. All she did was yell out the company line as usual.
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« Reply #109 on: May 02, 2011, 11:18:01 PM »
I....I'm sorry....The Prowler guesses that some people would've rather heard Pres. Obama speak in third person.  Again, not that many "I"s in his speech.  The Prowler did hear a lot of "WE", "OUR", "US", "THEY" in it though.
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« Reply #110 on: May 02, 2011, 11:19:06 PM »
Chiz.

Christians have been at war with Muslims since (and I was wrong on the timeframe before) the 1000s. 

Don't be naive. 

Please don't pull out the tired old "I bet you don't know any Muslims" argument.  It's as trite and pointless as the "I bet you never played any football" argument. 

Care to guess how many NFL coaches played in the NFL?  Not that many. 

No, I don't spend my weekends in mosques.  I don't spend a lot of time in synagogues either. 

You can think it's ignorant all you want, but I'm not an ignorant person.  Hotheaded?  Yeah.  Can be.  But not ignorant. 

Sure there are some members of the Islamic faith who want peaceful co-existence.  There are probably some Klansmen who want that, too.  But as a general rule, peaceful co-existence isn't on the Muslim radar. 

We aren't going to agree on this, so there's no point in continuing to discuss it here. 

I think you are wrong and have a myopic/narrow view.  You think I'm wrong, am painting with a broad brush and am ignorant. 

I'm okay with that.   We need both viewpoints. 
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Re: Bin Laden has assumed room temp!
« Reply #111 on: May 02, 2011, 11:28:10 PM »
I....I'm sorry....The Prowler guesses that some people would've rather heard Pres. Obama speak in third person.  Again, not that many "I"s in his speech.  The Prowler did hear a lot of "WE", "OUR", "US", "THEY" in it though.

Okay.  Well the bolded parts are all it took.  This is where it went off the rails and became an orgy of self-love.  You can choose to see it or choose not to. 

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And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

 

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden.  It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground.  I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan.  And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, andunspoken I authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

 

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.  A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability.  No Americans were harmed.  They took care to avoid civilian casualties.  After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

That's not how good coaches coach and it's not how good leaders lead. 

How pissed off would you be, Prowler (et. al) if Gene Chizik had made the same speech in the aftermath of the win over Alabama this year?

I directed Gus Malzahn to unleash the offense and made scoring points in the second half our chief directive.  I was briefed repeatedly by our assistant coaches as we attempted to determine the best course of action to overcome the 24-point deficit.  I finally determined we had enough information to make an effective plan and this week I authorized the use of multiple down-the-field passes and a defense determined to stop the run and pressure Greg McElroy. 

Today, at my direction, our players unleashed a second half from hell and completed an amazing comeback. After a firefight, they killed Big Al and took custody of his bloated body. 

Think about that a minute.  And tell me honestly.  Is that how leaders lead?  Would you accept that from Chizik?

Why, then, would you accept it from the Narcissist in Chief?
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« Reply #112 on: May 02, 2011, 11:35:53 PM »
Okay.  Well the bolded parts are all it took.  This is where it went off the rails and became an orgy of self-love.  You can choose to see it or choose not to. 

That's not how good coaches coach and it's not how good leaders lead. 

How pissed off would you be, Prowler (et. al) if Gene Chizik had made the same speech in the aftermath of the win over Alabama this year?

I directed Gus Malzahn to unleash the offense and made scoring points in the second half our chief directive.  I was briefed repeatedly by our assistant coaches as we attempted to determine the best course of action to overcome the 24-point deficit.  I finally determined we had enough information to make an effective plan and this week I authorized the use of multiple down-the-field passes and a defense determined to stop the run and pressure Greg McElroy. 

Today, at my direction, our players unleashed a second half from hell and completed an amazing comeback. After a firefight, they killed Big Al and took custody of his bloated body. 

Think about that a minute.  And tell me honestly.  Is that how leaders lead?  Would you accept that from Chizik?

Why, then, would you accept it from the Narcissist in Chief?

How does your opinion change if it turns out they whacked a doppelganger.?
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Re: Bin Laden has assumed room temp!
« Reply #113 on: May 02, 2011, 11:37:12 PM »
How does your opinion change if it turns out they whacked a doppelganger.?

I whacked my doppleganger.  I might do it again. 
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« Reply #114 on: May 02, 2011, 11:40:01 PM »
As a formal soldier of the greatest military on this planet, ever, I still feel obligated to show respect for my Commander and Chief. Listen, I'm not a Obama supporter but I have grown tired of the same old Republican bullshit. The death of this piece of shit Osama has nothing to fucking do with politics. Sure there will be those trying to make gains from this in a political sense but for me its about the greatest county in history saying don't fuck with me unless you want death knocking at your door. I am not gonna let politics fuck this is up for me, just like I'm not gonna let a rainy day get me depressed. This is bigger than politics, this is a nations healing ten years in the making. FUCK YOU AL WTFEVA, HHUUUAAAHH!

This is for New York, DC and the "Airline heros". Fuck you Bin Laden.

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Re: Bin Laden has assumed room temp!
« Reply #115 on: May 02, 2011, 11:43:26 PM »
As a formal soldier of the greatest military on this planet, ever, I still feel obligated to show respect for my Commander and Chief. Listen, I'm not a Obama supporter but I have grown tired of the same old Republican bullshit. The death of this piece of shit Osama has nothing to fucking do with politics. Sure there will be those trying to make gains from this in a political sense but for me its about the greatest county in history saying don't fuck with me unless you wanr death knocking at your death. I am not gonna let politics fuck this is up for me, just like I'm not gonna let a rainy day get me depressed. This is bigger than politics, this is a nations healing ten years in the making. FUCK YOU AL WTFEVA, HHUUUAAAHH!

This is for New York, DC and the "Airline heros". Fuck you Bin Laden.

And I don't disagree.  My frustration is with the One who attempted to turn it into a political gain. 

Glad he's dead, wish they hadn't thrown him over the side of the damn boat because that's going to leave "Elvis is alive" questions for decades, but...  still glad the murdering fuck is dead.  Wish I'd been the one to kill him.  Hope he's enjoying his 72 virgins.  Virgin men with 10 foot dicks. 
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Re: Bin Laden has assumed room temp!
« Reply #116 on: May 02, 2011, 11:46:31 PM »
My issue with the idiots dancing in the streets is that there will now be a Roh Tahd and a War Eagle in the next Al Quaida recruiting video.  That was stupid and juvenile - yes, I know they are college kids but Fox and other networks are allegedly run by grownups that did not have to show that, much less that moron Geraldo egging them on.  This was a monumental day, but show a little gravitas - this was not "Ding Dong, the witch is dead", you dancing munchkins.  You looked just like those fuckers who danced in the streets on 9-11, less the shooting guns in the air, and the ululations.

Since no one else did this, I will **EDIT, Kaos did too... delayed in posting...**

Chizad, there is NO WAY you can say that this was not the most one-sided statement EVER to come out of a president in relation to a military action:

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And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al QaedaI guess the CIA/NSA/CTG just closed down after Bush left office and Obama had to crank them back up again?  Seriously?  All he had to do was REAFFIRM what GWB had already set into play - I mean, OBL was already #1 on the Most Wanted List.  How can Obama take credit for this?

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden.  It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground.  I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan.  And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.   Once again, HE determined this?  Were his boots on the ground?  Was he sifting intelligence for days and weeks on end?  Or was he still hanging on to his election rhetoric criticizing the CIA and other counter-terrorism organizations for procuring the information in distasteful ways?  Because, yeah, we got this info from Khalid Sheik Muhammad - and I am sure he did not spill it voluntarily.  But it paid off, didn't it???

Unbelivable.  Yes, he gave the final order to go ahead and take the bastard out.  Like he had a choice??!?!?  If it had leaked out that he had a chance to get OBL and didn't take it, he would be DONE.  I would hazzard a guess that some of the delay in moving on the intel was so they could weigh the political pros and cons.  His liberal base is already pissed off at him for not pulling out of Afghanistan - now he is violating Pakistani territory to pull this off.  We are supposed to be all touchy feely One World One Love, baby...

I am glad "HE" did it  :rolleyes:, but color me shocked and surprised that he had the balls to do it.  HIllary probably pushed him into it - her balls are the biggest in the Administration. 

Dear heavens, I am praising HIllary Clinton...
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« Reply #117 on: May 02, 2011, 11:49:03 PM »
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« Reply #118 on: May 02, 2011, 11:55:45 PM »
I whacked my doppleganger.  I might do it again.
Target practice.

And I don't disagree.  My frustration is with the One who attempted to turn it into a political gain. 

Glad he's dead, wish they hadn't thrown him over the side of the damn boat because that's going to leave "Elvis is alive" questions for decades, but...  still glad the murdering fuck is dead.  Wish I'd been the one to kill him.  Hope he's enjoying his 72 virgins.  Virgin men with 10 foot dicks. 

First thing from your quote, there are a couple of typos I gotta go fix. Secondly, I don't want anyone to think I am questioning their fire for this country. In your argument, I heard Obama make his statements and my first thought was he was gonna do exactly what he did and use for some kind of political gain. Anyone who thinks this is not what he did is being blinded. My point is that my indignation for this motherfucker being shot in the fucking head goes far above and beyond ant of these cocksucking politicians can claim fame to.

In other news, this white rais......I mean those virgins should keep tha son of a bitch cozy in his corner of the lake of fire.
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« Reply #119 on: May 03, 2011, 12:10:20 AM »
Here's a thought from a local Houston blogger:

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How do we reconcile our president (a) holding a press conference to claim credit for killing Osama bin Laden, while at the very same time (b) maintaining a policy against targeting Mumar Kadafi?

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