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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on September 11, 2013, 05:26:12 PM
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Five Southeastern Conference football stars violated NCAA rules by receiving extra benefits prior to completing their collegiate careers, a Yahoo Sports investigation has found. The benefits – which in some cases came from multiple individuals – were conveyed to University of Alabama offensive tackle D.J. Fluker, University of Tennessee quarterback Tyler Bray, Tennessee defensive end Maurice Couch, Mississippi State University defensive tackle Fletcher Cox and Mississippi State wideout Chad Bumphis.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html
Really big article. You may want to click it.
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Oh hell YES!!
The identities of these players were revealed in a web of financial and text message records belonging to former Crimson Tide defensive end Luther Davis. The records were turned over to Yahoo Sports by a source with ties to the NFL agent community who alleged that Davis was acting as an intermediary between several high-profile college football stars and multiple NFL agents and financial advisers.
The jump from there to T-Town Tom is small.
Wasn't it Davis who got the new kitchen for his moms? From the Crimpson Elepunts?
WHICH trophies are gonna get taken AWAY?
Wait..wait.. Saban knew? It was a sting operation? He was in on it the whole time?
Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Take note, SI. This is what investigative reporting looks like. Actual bank receipts, text messages, etc. You know, evidence. I hope this is what finally brings the Crapstone to their knees but I'm not holding my breath. If anything it will be fun to watch them sweat for a change.
Mark my words - there will be new allegations brought up against Auburn any day now.
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This is interesting...
The email was accompanied by a typed invoice with the header "January 2012-May 2012" and listed the name and a corresponding phone number of Fluker's mother Annice. The invoice was marked with a digital stamp indicating it had been scanned in at the bank where Pennington works.
The invoice lists 15 transactions totaling $2,375.71, including 11 corresponding check numbers allegedly used for payments, as well as three listings for "Money Order" and one for cash. The charges listed various expenses, including $1,311.60 for rent and an apartment deposit. There were two months of rent paid at Meagan Manor in Chatom, Ala. Yahoo Sports confirmed Fluker's mother briefly lived at Meagan Manor. The invoice also indicated Fluker's mother paid back a portion of the balance, with a line stating "Annice paid $500.00 cash on 3/5/2012," and that the outstanding debt was $1,875.71.
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More interesting...
August 3, 2012
Phone number tied to Fluker: "Did you find out about the bed"
Phone number tied to Davis: "I just paid for the whole suit at sticks and it'll be in on the 17th"
Phone number tied to Fluker: "oh for real oh ok then."
August 17, 2012
Phone number tied to Sticks N Stuff employee Shayne Roland: "Got dj done just now. Bill [Sticks N Stuff employee Bill Askew] gave you about five hundred off at store. Me and partner cleaned room. Put clothes in closet. Bed on back porch. Set up everything. hope he likes it. If you get tickets from your job a couple for bill and my partner and a different game for me would be nice. But if not through your job then dont worry about it. Ill take care of my partner. Thanks luther. Got your receipt at store."
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I haven't seen a name attached to this story. Interesting to say the least!
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Neat!
• Yahoo Sports also acquired an email that Davis sent to Hodge Brahmbhatt, with the subject line "DJ Fluker Invoice." The email listed 49 line-item transactions and a notation at the bottom: "Total: $33,755." The line items matched up with debit card charge transactions found in Davis' bank records and also matched multiple receipts authenticated by Yahoo Sports, including the $1,200 bed purchase at Sticks N Stuff.
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Oh shit!
It's Charles Robinson on the scene!
Bama fucked, y'all!
Charles Robinson â€@CharlesRobinson 24m
From @Rand_Getlin & myself: Agents & financial advisers provided $45,550 to the man giving benefits to 5 SEC players.
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Fuck me...I gave in. Typed in the www for Finebaum and tuned in thinking maybe he would at least be talking about this. At least give me a "nothing to see here" segment, Finebaum!
What do I get?
Bryant circle jerk stories.
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Charles Robinson is on that ass!
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Oh wait...he is addressing it now. Haha he says this story means nothing to Alabama. Just a small amount. No real evidence of players with their hands out. This story is dubious at best and Okie State story has more of a chance to lead to serious penalties.
Also, it's just Yahoo Sports reporting it. Not a real serious news source. Just using this story this week to get attention.
Ok I'm done. Finebaum is off. I'll go back to browsing random shit on the internet.
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30 minutes after the Charles Robinson story breaks here's Dan Wetzel to throw a wet blanket on everyone's party:
Predicting no sanctions...somehow. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--latest-college-scandals-again-reveal-folly-of-ncaa-rules-210822795.html)
Obviously he has been working on this piece for some time now. However I don't see how the NCAA can't hit the affected schools with something. There is hard evidence here. This isn't Scott Moore with a phantom tape recording of Cecil Newton.
If nothing else I hope it throws Bama off of their game long enough to lose a couple of games. Then the real fun would start...
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Oh wait...he is addressing it now. Haha he says this story means nothing to Alabama. Just a small amount. No real evidence of players with their hands out. This story is dubious at best and Okie State story has more of a chance to lead to serious penalties.
Also, it's just Yahoo Sports reporting it. Not a real serious news source. Just using this story this week to get attention.
Ok I'm done. Finebaum is off. I'll go back to browsing random shoot on the internet.
HAHAHAHA.
Liar.
Yahoo Sports isn't serious? Has he lost his mind?
This is his worst nightmare. Without the boastful bammers his show is SUNK.
If I had champagne, I'd pop it. Celebrate now before Saban produces a post-dated cease and desist letter and Emmert goes, "well that certainly covers it."
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In a more serious discussion - How the fuck did Robinson and crew get ahold of this and the NCAA NEVER sniffed it?
I know, I know. Tired discussion. We've been seeing this for years.
But it's just mind boggling at the charade going on in Indianapolis. A few media guys get the actual hard copies of illegal activities with college football players. The NCAA comes along the backside and says, "Well, we couldn't get anyone to come forward."
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HAHAHAHA.
Liar.
Yahoo Sports isn't serious? Has he lost his mind?
This is his worst nightmare. Without the boastful bammers his show is SUNK.
If I had champagne, I'd pop it. Celebrate now before Saban produces a post-dated cease and desist letter and Emmert goes, "well that certainly covers it."
God damn hysterical that he was simultaneously pumping Thayer Evans's garbage and refuting this.
I don't want to get too excited too early, but this may finally be the big one.
2009 [Vacated]
2010 Auburn
2011 [Vacated]
2012 [Vacated]
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Yahoo Sports isn't serious? Has he lost his mind?
My best attempt at recreating the quote - "I know Charles Robinson and the other guys claim to release information as they receive it, but come on. It's the week of a big Alabama game and here's a story that won't mean much in the long run but can get Yahoo in the spotlight."
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This check is from the Bama alum attorney who edited the Kristi Malzahn video and peddled Manziel signing, cut checks to Luther.
Bama's burnin' y'all.
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but this may finally be the big one.
It's not. Read Ogre's link.
The NCAA WON'T do shit anymore unless they get someone to talk. I think we've seen that in numerous cases.
They especially won't go after three SEC teams at once. That's the problem. You get too many teams involved, the NCAA just says, "Stay away from these agents. SEC, you better educate your players better!"
If it was just Alabama, I could see them maybe investigating without anything coming of it.
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This check is from the Bama alum attorney who edited the Kristi Malzahn video and peddled Manziel signing, cut checks to Luther.
Davis wasn't playing in 2012 though. Can they connect this check to Fluker's account? Will they care?
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Here's Cecil Hurt to clean it up. Oh it's just a little story. Probably will be around on Saturday but until we see actual infractions occur, I'd say nothing to talk about.
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Davis wasn't playing in 2012 though. Can they connect this check to Fluker's account? Will they care?
Yes. That link was established.
Whether anybody cares is another story.
The NCAA can't NOT investigate. They have to after nailing Manziel to the rack or they'll never hear the end of it. Big12, Big10, ACC, PAC18 will all put pressure on and demand it.
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Big12, Big10, ACC, PAC18 will all put pressure on and demand it.
I think this is the key. The other conferences have to be fucking sick and tired of the SEC dominating the biggest money prize. And Alabama has won three of the last four and will probably win another.
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Here's Cecil Hurt to clean it up. Oh it's just a little story. Probably will be around on Saturday but until we see actual infractions occur, I'd say nothing to talk about.
That's the tactic that works. Worked with T-Town Menswear. Pretend it's nothing, ignore it and it will go away.
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30 minutes after the Charles Robinson story breaks here's Dan Wetzel to throw a wet blanket on everyone's party:
Predicting no sanctions...somehow. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--latest-college-scandals-again-reveal-folly-of-ncaa-rules-210822795.html)
Obviously he has been working on this piece for some time now. However I don't see how the NCAA can't hit the affected schools with something. There is hard evidence here. This isn't Scott Moore with a phantom tape recording of Cecil Newton.
If nothing else I hope it throws Bama off of their game long enough to lose a couple of games. Then the real fun would start...
By the way, FUCK this piece in the mouth.
Everything that was ridiculously hypocritical about why Manziel was treated so different from Cam is here in fucking SPADES.
Fluker needs the money, y'all. :taunt:
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By the way, FUCK this piece in the mouth.
Everything that was ridiculously hypocritical about why Manziel was treated so different from Cam is here in fucking SPADES.
Fluker needs the money, y'all. :taunt:
I'm going to keep hope alive and think that Robinson and Wetzel collaborated on this story. Robinson would release the investigative piece and Wetzel would come in to say the NCAA doesn't have any nuts to do anything about it.
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This might be it. Much more serious than the bs charger ordeal in Gadsden. But, as much as it sucks, Im relieved this is an agent/player story and not a booster giving money to highschool kid to play at Alabama story. Of course, could be the same punishment.
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This might be it. Much more serious than the bs charger ordeal in Gadsden. But, as much as it sucks, Im relieved this is an agent/player story and not a booster giving money to highschool kid to play at Alabama story. Of course, could be the same punishment.
It's not. I'm telling you.
Too many schools involved. If they concentrated this to be a direct attack on one school with multiple players and then implied that the compliance department should have known, then I'd say Bama's in trouble.
This will turn into another "Attack the agents, educate the players" story. Just like the Austin/Dareus in Miami story.
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One interesting point:
According to documents released Tuesday, the NCAA in responding to Alabama's textbook appeal called Alabama a "serial repeat violator" with an "abysmal infractions track record" and an "extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA."
That's from the textbook case. So, it looks like the NCAA still has a hard on for Alabama.
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For what it's worth, the Sticks N Stuff story cracked me up. It's EXACTLY the same thing that was happening when I owned a furniture store in Tuscaloosa in the late 80s/early 90s. Player would come in and pick out TVs, furniture, washers, stereos, whatever. They'd fill out the paperwork for delivery and then somebody else would write me a check. It wasn't just football. Basketball, baseball, women's sports. I could name tons of players you've heard of, several who went on to the pros including some of the most revered names in Crimpson history.
And then there's this.
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Where is everybody! Let's get this party going!
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It's not. I'm telling you.
Too many schools involved. If they concentrated this to be a direct attack on one school with multiple players and then implied that the compliance department should have known, then I'd say Bama's in trouble.
This will turn into another "Attack the agents, educate the players" story. Just like the Austin/Dareus in Miami story.
I said during chargergate and t town Tom, that brooks didnt worry me because he was a fucking idiot. I also said Charles Robinson does.
Im concerned and this shit isn't going away.
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I said during chargergate and t town Tom, that brooks didnt worry me because he was a fucking idiot. I also said Charles Robinson does.
Im concerned and this shit isn't going away.
I don't think it is going away either. However, if there is one group of people that can get out of it, it is the people associated with Alabama.
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Im concerned and this shit isn't going away.
If I were you, I'd worry about Robinson being involved but not be terrified until he released a second story. If he has more, it's a big deal.
But let's not forget that he also released pretty much his own website with interactive games and bingo and cash prizes to show how deep the Miami scandal went. It's been two years and not a damn thing has come of it yet.
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This might be it. Much more serious than the bs charger ordeal in Gadsden. But, as much as it sucks, Im relieved this is an agent/player story and not a booster giving money to highschool kid to play at Alabama story. Of course, could be the same punishment.
Not so fast my friend.
Luther Davis is a booster.
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Not to mention it looks like the lawyer guy was also giving money, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't hold booster status.
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Oh, by the way? Happy Birthday, Bahr.
Timing couldn't have been more perfect you lying, cheating, scumbag.
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And before I forget?
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Oh, by the way? Happy Birthday, Bahr.
Timing couldn't have been more perfect you lying, cheating, scumbag.
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Win. This post is full of it.
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If I knew how to make a .gif, I would make one with Charles Robinson flying a jet into Denny Chimes to commemorate this day.
Too soon?
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Ten questions to ponder:
1) Can the derps who bought "15" shirts and hats get refunds or at least be provided duct tape to make alterations?
2) Will Miss Alabama be forced to vacate that hideous dress?
3) What greenery will suffer at the hands of an Updyke over this?
4) What time will the fire department be called to Sticks N Stuff?
5) When's the next flight from Birmingham to Austin?
6) What sort of tattoo is Reuben Foster going to get now?
7) Does Carleton Tinker feel a little bit better about tripping?
8) Do the message board savants who predicted a title would be stripped from a team in this state feel vindicated?
9) How long before Chopper is a witness for the prosecution? He's got HotWheelz pics.
10) How does that woolly shoe feel when it's stuffed with tuna and shoved down your plainly burnt throat?
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Wow.
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LOLz Remember this?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2002-02-01-alabama-violations.htm
The governing body said it considered giving the Crimson Tide the most severe punishment — the death penalty — under the repeat violator rules for a recruiting scandal in which boosters were accused of paying money for high school players.
"They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun," said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee.
Bama's repeat repeat repeat offender probation ended on June 10, 2012.
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“We have been aware of some of the allegations in today's story and our compliance department was looking into this situation prior to being notified that this story was actually going to be published. Our review is ongoing. We diligently educate our student-athletes on maintaining compliance with NCAA rules, and will continue to do so."
--Bill Battle, Director of Athletics, University of Alabama
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I feel compelled to share that this thread has me fully erect.
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Not a word from ESPN. Still.
And this is the ESPN.com home page.
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BS.BS.BS.
We already knew and issued a cease and desist letter in sanskrit in the year 49BC.
Nothing may ever come of this. But if they start looking? They won't walk away empty handed like they did at Auburn.
Thus?
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All night long, baby.
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Everybody's happy. See? Even Saban.
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Guess he knows that this gives him the perfect out to bolt for Austin. Or anywhere.
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I don't get it. It's not moving.
I feel like this.
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Oh joyful day! On the dead drunk's birthday, no less!
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Phone records? Check. Paper trail? Check. One pissed of midget at tonight's press conference? Check!
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Oh...just remembered Bumphis's Twitter advice to recruits.
Anyone have that handy?
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There are alot of journalists with agendas out there, but if Charles Robinson writes it, I believe it. He typically has his shit together before he puts a story out there. With that said......fuck......
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I missed the presser.
Anyone have a link or any written articles?
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I took this from an ESPN article:
A second report alleges that former Alabama safety Mark Barron accepted money while he was recovering from a shoulder injury as a junior in 2011 which kept him from declaring for the NFL draft. Text messages obtained by Yahoo! show that Barron was asked to repay money after signing with a competing sports agency.
What second report?
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Also, the guy that Robinson collaborated with on the story told the two evening douches on JOX that he will not share any of his information with the NCAA. Said this investigation is more about the agents than the players and schools.
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I missed the presser.
Anyone have a link or any written articles?
Not the presser but this pretty much sums it up. Btw, he mad.
http://collegespun.com/sec/alabama-sec/nick-saban-blasts-reporters-at-press-conference-for-asking-about-yahoo-article-storms-out-after-3-questions
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He's such a baby. Just watched the replay on al.com.
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There's more than DJ Fluker getting money, WOTS Ed Stinson & another player will be fingered too (not including Barron).
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There's more than DJ Fluker getting money, WOTS Ed Stinson & another player will be fingered too.
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I cannot tell a lie....My weenus is hard.
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I cannot tell a lie....My weenus is hard.
Look at Carlos....he's jackin' his little weenus!
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I'm going to keep hope alive and think that Robinson and Wetzel collaborated on this story. Robinson would release the investigative piece and Wetzel would come in to say the NCAA doesn't have any nuts to do anything about it.
THIS is unbelievable.
It's looks even worse when it argues that something horrible occurred if a kid such as D.J. Fluker, who grew up poor even before Hurricane Katrina left him homeless and sleeping in a car with four others, actually accepted some of the money that just about everyone was willing to throw at him because they've defined his worth as far greater than just tuition, room and board.
When it comes to these kinds of stories, much of the focus is on the NCAA enforcement angle. Some just want to know what the penalties will be and how it will affect competitive balance. Some want retribution along fair-is-fair guidelines – the NCAA lit up their favorite program, so it's about time the damn Tide got its comeuppance too. Still others just want to blame the media for supposedly doing the NCAA's investigative work or even propping up the rulebook by laying out violations.
Almost everyone is missing the forest for the trees.
:taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
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Saban is a fucking prick and the reporters in this state are a bunch of god damn pussies!
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Saban is a fucking prick and the reporters in this state are a bunch of god damn pussies!
don't you live in téxxás?
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don't you live in téxxás?
I still consider myself an alabamian...
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I still consider myself an alabamian...
East Alabama Medical Center represent, yo!
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If I were you, I'd worry about Robinson being involved but not be terrified until he released a second story. If he has more, it's a big deal.
But let's not forget that he also released pretty much his own website with interactive games and bingo and cash prizes to show how deep the Miami scandal went. It's been two years and not a damn thing has come of it yet.
That's because the NCAA screwed the pooch with Miami. Not because Robinson did anything wrong. He's pretty spot on with everything and does his research.
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Well, this is as red-handed as an NCAA violation gets. I don't care if such and such shares his info, there is enough with the Yahoo article along with said documents that will bring the hammer to bama, Vols and MSU.
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Well, this is as red-handed as an NCAA violation gets. I don't care if such and such shares his info, there is enough with the Yahoo article along with said documents that will bring the hammer to bama, Vols and MSU.
Logic would suggest so. This is the functional equivalent of the Ramsey tapes. There is even mention of Fluke's mom repaying some of the money.
So...Dye helps a player get a loan and we get a total tv ban for a year. Surely, bama deserves at least that for Fluker's mom's loan..at the very fucking least.
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Not sure if already posted...Alabama has a Agent Law were if there is any tampering with an amateur athlete by a Agent, the Agent's documents or records could be subpoenaed by the Court.
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Not sure if already posted...Alabama has a Agent Law were if there is any tampering with an amateur athlete by a Agent. The Agent's documents or records could be subpoenaed by the Court.
Skeet!
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Skeet!
Agent/Booster/uat alum/Tuscaloosa Lawyer John Phillips is involved with more than just Luther Davis.
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Agent/Booster/uat alum/Tuscaloosa Lawyer John Phillips is involved with more than just Luther Davis.
This is Class D explosive.
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Harris
Jones
Ingram
Dareus
Richardson
Fluker
Any more doubt?
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Harris
Jones
Ingram
Dareus
Richardson
Fluker
Any more doubt?
I think I just filled the cup.
Santa, I hate your stupid, obese, dwarf-fetished ass...but please give me this.
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Harris
Jones
Ingram
Dareus
Richardson
Fluker
Any more doubt?
Don't forget Mark Barron.
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I missed the presser.
Anyone have a link or any written articles?
http://www.startribune.com/video/223394721.html
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ESPN finally has the story on the crawl.
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Wait a damn second, wasn't John Phillips the Agent/uat Booster/Tuscaloosa Lawyer that doctored up the Kristi Malzahn video and the one that sent Johnny Manziel to a guy to sign autographs?
Stone Cold Lock:
He's one of the ones that have footed the Airfare, travel, room & food (along with money to play with) for Dareus, Julio, Ingram, Davis, Fluker & probably Barron to go to Miami.
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Wait a damn second, wasn't John Phillips the Agent/uat Booster/Tuscaloosa Lawyer that doctored up the Kristi Malzahn video and the one that sent Johnny Manziel to a guy to sign autographs?
Stone Cold Lock:
He's one of the ones that have footed the Airfare, travel, room & food (along with money to play with) for Dareus, Julio, Ingram, Davis, Fluker & probably Barron to go to Miami.
Yes...to all of the above.
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This is the best I have felt about Auburn University and it's football program in a while. Maybe even before 2010 due to all the bullshit we had to deal with that year.
It's like it's all wiped clean with one fell swoop.
All the digging on us and not one God damn thing compared to about as much documentation of cheating that you could possibly ask for. Their 3 out of 4 years of dominance? Confirmed to have been bought.
And by the way, who do you think told Fluker to go back and lie about his Twitter getting "hacked" after he confessed to taking money months ago? Could it have been the best retroactive compliance program in the country?
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This is the best I have felt about Auburn University and it's football program in a while. Maybe even before 2010 due to all the bullshit we had to deal with that year.
It's like it's all wiped clean with one fell swoop.
All the digging on us and not one God damn thing compared to about as much documentation of cheating that you could possibly ask for. Their 3 out of 4 years of dominance? Confirmed to have been bought.
And by the way, who do you think told Fluker to go back and lie about his Twitter getting "hacked" after he confessed to taking money months ago? Could it have been the best retroactive compliance program in the country?
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So...redundant to hit Robinson with all the TTown menswear, Hot Wheelz, etc, stuff? I'm certain he has it...but why not strike while the iron is smoking hot?
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Sani is fussing at me for not enjoying the sweaty upper lips of the inbred nation, but I'm just too cynical.
When the LOI shows up to the attention of the Turd AD, I'll pop a cork and toast the FKG.
But not until. The FKG are fickle and easily displeased. I won't take that chance.
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Sami is fussing at me for not enjoying the sweaty upper lips of the inbred nation, but I'm just too cynical.
When the LOI shows up to the attention of the Turd AD, I'll pop a cork and toast the FKG.
But not until. The FKG are fickle and easily displeased. I won't take that chance.
I'm drunk and not embarrassed to ask: FKG?
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Sani is fussing at me for not enjoying the sweaty upper lips of the inbred nation, but I'm just too cynical.
When the LOI shows up to the attention of the Turd AD, I'll pop a cork and toast the FKG.
But not until. The FKG are fickle and easily displeased. I won't take that chance.
True, plus we don't know what kind of interference Mikeeee Slive is going to run for them.
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When I first heard about this, I was like
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Then, when I realized that it was just about an agent and players, I was like
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But then I realized that Luther Davis and John David Phillips were helping the agents funnel the money, and I was like
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Watching Saban try to repeat his bullshit when pressed by reporters is a thing of beauty. No matter how much he "wins" he will go down as being a hot headed small man with anger management issues.
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Watching Saban try to repeat his bullshit when pressed by reporters is a thing of beauty. No matter how much he "wins" he will go down as being a hot headed small man with anger management issues.
So is Belicheck...and he got caught cheating. Every media hack still trips over their dick praising that asshole.
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When I first heard about this, I was like
(http://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/happy-dance-gif.gif)
Then, when I realized that it was just about an agent and players, I was like
(http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Dr.-Who.gif)
But then I realized that Luther Davis and John David Phillips were helping the agents funnel the money, and I was like
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/yes/stanley2.gif)
Then John David Phillips said, "I never gave any money to Davis or Fluker."
I was like...
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Then he said, "I mean, I did pay Davis' rent a few times...but I never gave Fluker money."
I was like...
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Then, after being shown the $10,000 check and who Davis stated it was meant for, he said, "I doubt it hit it's intended target." When asked if his intended target was Fluker, he said, "Yeah, I mean whomever."
I was like...
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FKG... Fucking Karma God. Or Fuckin' Kenny G. Your choice.
Anyway...this is a huge win for Auburn.
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If I knew how to make a .gif, I would make one with Charles Robinson flying a jet into Denny Chimes to commemorate this day.
Too soon?
This wins.
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This wins.
Please make it happen....and make Updyke the copilot.
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FKG... Fucking Karma God. Or Fuckin' Kenny G. Your choice.
Anyway...this is a huge win for Auburn.
Are you sure about that?
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Please make it happen....and make Updyke the copilot.
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Are you sure about that?
well not exactly...this isn't Arkansas State.
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Please make it happen....and make Updyke the copilot.
don't you have a special in with the Godfather...?
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Pat Forde working on an article now. I'm starting to feel a little better about it.
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don't you have a special in with the Godfather...?
I've been in the Godfather, if that's what you're asking.
It was a tender moment. Sexual...and violent.
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From the Auburner:
John Phillips has a podcast. On it, Danny Sheridan is a regular guest. Luther Davis was on the episode entitled "Episode 2: Luther Davis, Winning a BCS & Human Lie Detection".
Also in this episode, John Philips claims to talk to Nick Saban "fairly regularly".
This episode has been removed from the Internet.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/courtsandsports
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John Phillips has a podcast. On it, Danny Sheridan is a regular guest. Luther Davis was on the episode entitled "Episode 2: Luther Davis, Winning a BCS & Human Lie Detection".
Also in this episode, John Philips claims to talk to Nick Saban "fairly regularly".
This episode has been removed from the Internet.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/courtsandsports
I don't suppose you found an archive anywhere?
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I don't suppose you found an archive anywhere?
Just did.
Pow!
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B70WkAs0eDO8cFZ3MFlrMzNrOHM/edit
You can download the MP3 to your computer here.
Already got a copy.
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Just did.
Pow!
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B70WkAs0eDO8cFZ3MFlrMzNrOHM/edit
You can download the MP3 to your computer here.
Already got a copy.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvo8nlaWRA1r6aoq4o1_400.gif)
I kinda want to hug you right now. In a totally hetero and manly fashion, of course.
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Oh...Oh God...Oh right there...harder...harder!
So guess who I ran into at the FedEx Store in tuscalooser earlier this year (1/22/13)? None other than Mr. T-Town Menswear himself. I was waiting in line when Ms. Chatty Cathy in the next line over notices the MNC ring that he was wearing (wonder where he got THAT from) and asks him about his role with the bammer football team. He proceeds to tell her that he is "close with all the guys" and that he is actually "Jesse William's manager." He tells her (and everyone in the damn store) that he is shipping Jesse's framed diploma and helmet to Jesse's dad in Australia. He also told her that he hung out with all of the players in Miami at the game, etc. He even got out his phone and was showing her all the pictures from the trip and stuff. Anyways, this story is worthless without pics, right? Behold. This all goes to show, nay PROVE, that Tom Albetar continued to maintain contacts with players and the program after the famed cease and desist letter.
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Pat Forde working on an article now. I'm starting to feel a little better about it.
I'm sure it'll all be about the big bad agents taking advantage of these helpless, mindless kids that lived in a car with four other people (eventhough the kids are 6'6" 450lbs.) and they transferred to three schools within a three year period...with no mention of where the rest of the family stayed.
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I keep hearing of a 2nd Yahoo! article. One that talks about Barron receiving 8 Gs for signing with an agent while in college and is asked to pay it back when he signs with someone else afterwards. Anyone else seen this or gotta link?
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Oh...Oh God...Oh right there...harder...harder!
(http://i.imgur.com/wKT1iwD.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/B3oV3Ck.jpg)
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:shitfan: :popcorn:
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So can someone explain to me in layman's terms with lots of arbitrary figures why I care that TTown Tom is sending a package to Authur Williams in Australia?
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So can someone explain to me in layman's terms with lots of arbitrary figures why I care that TTown Tom is sending a package to Authur Williams in Australia?
He's violating the bullshit cease and desist letter that "disassociated" him from the program.
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Mike and Mike finally talk about this and the story is "Saban put those reporters in their place" followed by a joke of Folc celebrating ND MNC after Bamasa is taken. Yucks yucks. :facepalm:
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So can someone explain to me in layman's terms with lots of arbitrary figures why I care that TTown Tom is sending a package to Authur Williams in Australia?
That's former uat DT Jesse William's dad...the player that he's a handler of...he being disassociated Tom Albetar (eventhough he's as disassociated from the uat program as I am from my dick)...I'm sure the NCAA would find that very interesting that Tom hasn't actually been disassociated from any of the players or the program and that he's a handler of atleast one player.
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He's violating the bullshit cease and desist letter that "disassociated" him from the program.
That's former uat DT Jesse William's dad...the player that he's a handler of...he being disassociated Tom Albetar (eventhough he's as disassociated from the uat program as I am from my dick)...I'm sure the NCAA would find that very interesting that Tom hasn't actually been disassociated from any of the players or the program and that he's a handler of atleast one player.
Got it. Thanks
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--nick-saban-s-curt-response-to-allegations-against-alabama-shows-a-coach--program-with-much-to-lose-025249105.html
Yahoo is twisting the knife...
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Well, here's the line coming out of the Tuscaloosa:
"Other folks is cheating and not getting punished. We'll get off."
"Saban didn't know. Our institution is in control. Slap on the wrist at worst. DJ is not welcome."
"The NCAA should be disbanded."
Like clockwork.
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So, how many of you assholes woke up with a little extra pep in your step this morning? Told your wife her hair looks great? Gave that homeless guy on the corner a $20 bill on your way in to work?
:fu:
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So, how many of you assholes woke up with a little extra pep in your step this morning? Told your wife her hair looks great? Gave that homeless guy on the corner a $20 bill on your way in to work?
:fu:
Channeling your inner Saban at a presser this morning I see. Your goat is lonely. :poke:
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Pat Forde working on an article now. I'm starting to feel a little better about it.
You could very well be right about feeling better. There may be nothing that has come of this. But that doesn't make me feel any less about this. Everything we have talked about is being vindicated.
Alabama is paying people...check.
Alabama still has a network out there that is taking care of players...check.
Alabama people were involved in the JFF drama...check.
ESPN is in fucking bed with the University of Alabama...check.
So they may well get off. But I know. I know I am not crazy now.
I know, that when ESPN runs with some bullshit story from roopstigogo.com about Auburn, and doesn't mention anything about this...I am not crazy.
I know when they have whole segments on SportsCenter and Outside the Lines about Auburn cheating while only having a bunch of bullshit hearsay, while casually mentioning this case with the mounds of evidence in front of them...that I am not crazy.
I know that when shit about all of Alabama's rivals come out because they are threatening to Alabama and I think Alabama has something to do with the bullshit...I am not crazy.
I know without a shadow of a doubt now, that Alabama people brought the hell on Cam and Auburn because they control state and national media...that I am not crazy.
It validates everything I have been thinking for years but have not been able to prove. This ties everything together. The John Phillips link ALONE ties this shit together.
I am not crazy...this shit is as real as it gets...whether Alabama gets in any kind of trouble or not.
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So, how many of you assholes woke up with a little extra pep in your step this morning? Told your wife her hair looks great? Gave that homeless guy on the corner a $20 bill on your way in to work?
:fu:
:fu: dumbass. Look at recent history and decide if it wasn't about to hit your shitty team in the face.
USC dominates college football, espn can't quit slobbing on Pete Carrol's little knob. They get busted for cheating.
Ohio St dominate program in college football (can't win it all, but do play for it often), epsn sucks on sweater vest's little cock. They get busted for cheating.
Oregon (They're just so fast $1 to Snaggle) oh they are one of the best programs in the nation. Chip Kelley is doing it the right way. Auburn cheats and should have to give that trophy to the Ducks. Wait. What? Oh Oregon was the ones cheating? Damn, busted.
Did you really think little Nicky was the only mother fucker good enough to dominate college football without cheating? If your answer to that is yes, then you really are one dumb mother fucker.
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"Saban didn't know. Our institution is in control. Slap on the wrist at worst. DJ is not welcome."
Well, in all fairness, he probably didn't know. Not that it really matters, because it apparently happened regardless. You don't really expect or forsee a recent former player to do something like that. Like Token, I am happy that it wasn't a booster. It wasn't an agent himself. That tells me that the controls in place for those two types of situations are working (hopefully). A guy who just graduated a few years ago simply isn't the type of person you would suspect of being a runner for an agent.
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:fu: dumbass. Look at recent history and decide if it wasn't about to hit your shitty team in the face.
Hey, calm the fuck down. It was a nod to how fucked Alabama could be in this situation. This is like Christmas for you guys, and I'm not going to try to ruin it for you.
:fu:
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So, how many of you assholes woke up with a little extra pep in your step this morning? Told your wife her hair looks great? Gave that homeless guy on the corner a $20 bill on your way in to work?
:fu:
I am happy. And it has nothing to do with Alabama getting in trouble.
I am happy because of all the times you justified a bunch of bullshit that you and I knew was bullshit. You can't do that any more. Your team cheats. And Alabama won championships because of it.
People in your fanbase try destroy any threatening team or person that gets in their way. And Alabama won championships because of it.
ESPN and the media has an agenda. And Alabama has won championships because of it. How? How many teams had one loss in 2011 and 2012? How many other teams won their conference or their division and didn't get a chance to win a national championship?
2004? Agenda to keep Auburn out? Not such a fucking stretch for me anymore.
It goes on and on...from the way Finebaum and AL.com and ESPN and everyone in the media that's not named Charles handles this. This case has more evidence than anything that I have seen in 15 years...and it validates everything I have thought for the last 10...
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Hey, calm the fuck down. It was a nod to how fucked Alabama could be in this situation. This is like Christmas for you guys, and I'm not going to try to ruin it for you.
:fu:
Me calm the fuck down? How about you go sit on an AIDS infested dick and scream Oh GOD Nick you feel so good.
:fu:
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Well, in all fairness, he probably didn't know. Not that it really matters, because it apparently happened regardless. You don't really expect or forsee a recent former player to do something like that. Like Token, I am happy that it wasn't a booster. It wasn't an agent himself. That tells me that the controls in place for those two types of situations are working (hopefully). A guy who just graduated a few years ago simply isn't the type of person you would suspect of being a runner for an agent.
Admit it...when he acts like a spoiled 13 year old girl like he did at the presser yesterday, that hurts, doesn't it? I mean, that's just embarrassing for THE GREATEST CORCH EVAH.
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Like Token, I am happy that it wasn't a booster.
You're going to be really unhappy when you read the ncaa's definitions of "booster" and "representative", then.
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So, how many of you assholes woke up with a little extra pep in your step this morning? Told your wife her hair looks great? Gave that homeless guy on the corner a $20 bill on your way in to work?
:fu:
I won't lie...I woke up with a fucking woody. I only wish Shane was here to enjoy this.
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I won't lie...I woke up with a fucking woody. I only wish Shane was here to enjoy this.
You want Shane to enjoy your woody?
Do you also eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
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https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayDownSouth.Alabama/posts/10151855939029295 (https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayDownSouth.Alabama/posts/10151855939029295)
hahaha...bunch of stupid ignorant fucks that were saying a completely different thing about the media 2 days ago...
I'm a religious bama fan guess they call me a sabanist born and raised u put them on blast
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You could very well be right about feeling better. There may be nothing that has come of this. But that doesn't make me feel any less about this. Everything we have talked about is being vindicated.
Alabama is paying people...check.
Alabama still has a network out there that is taking care of players...check.
Alabama people were involved in the JFF drama...check.
ESPN is in fucking bed with the University of Alabama...check.
So they may well get off. But I know. I know I am not crazy now.
I know, that when ESPN runs with some bullshit story from roopstigogo.com about Auburn, and doesn't mention anything about this...I am not crazy.
I know when they have whole segments on SportsCenter and Outside the Lines about Auburn cheating while only having a bunch of bullshit hearsay, while casually mentioning this case with the mounds of evidence in front of them...that I am not crazy.
I know that when shit about all of Alabama's rivals come out because they are threatening to Alabama and I think Alabama has something to do with the bullshit...I am not crazy.
I know without a shadow of a doubt now, that Alabama people brought the hell on Cam and Auburn because they control state and national media...that I am not crazy.
It validates everything I have been thinking for years but have not been able to prove. This ties everything together. The John Phillips link ALONE ties this shit together.
I am not crazy...this shit is as real as it gets...whether Alabama gets in any kind of trouble or not.
Tongue in cheek on the Forde comment.
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You're going to be really unhappy when you read the ncaa's definitions of "booster" and "representative", then.
I wanna say something. I'm gonna put this out there if you like it, you can take it. If you don't, send it right back.... I want to be on you.
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Tongue in cheek on the Forde comment.
My point remains the same.
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You want Shane to enjoy your woody?
Do you also eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
Go back to your shanties!
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I am happy. And it has nothing to do with Alabama getting in trouble.
I am happy because of all the times you justified a bunch of bullshit that you and I knew was bullshit. You can't do that any more. Your team cheats. And Alabama won championships because of it.
People in your fanbase try destroy any threatening team or person that gets in their way. And Alabama won championships because of it.
ESPN and the media has an agenda. And Alabama has won championships because of it. How? How many teams had one loss in 2011 and 2012? How many other teams won their conference or their division and didn't get a chance to win a national championship?
2004? Agenda to keep Auburn out? Not such a fucking stretch for me anymore.
It goes on and on...from the way Finebaum and AL.com and ESPN and everyone in the media that's not named Charles handles this. This case has more evidence than anything that I have seen in 15 years...and it validates everything I have thought for the last 10...
This doesn't necessarily mean that the entire program as a whole cheats in everything that is done, but it doesn't give an Alabama fan the foothold to argue against it either. As far as the media goes, yeah, I can see it. I won't subscribe to the notion that the REC controls every single media outlet in every single state, but I certainly believe that the state media and ESPN lean to Alabama. It's all about money. I mean, the Press Register had more Bear Bryant coverage in yesterday's print paper than they did about the 9/11 anniversary. Bear Bryant was on the front page. You can't argue that shit.
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You could very well be right about feeling better. There may be nothing that has come of this. But that doesn't make me feel any less about this. Everything we have talked about is being vindicated.
Alabama is paying people...check.
Alabama still has a network out there that is taking care of players...check.
Alabama people were involved in the JFF drama...check.
ESPN is in fucking bed with the University of Alabama...check.
So they may well get off. But I know. I know I am not crazy now.
I know, that when ESPN runs with some bullshit story from roopstigogo.com about Auburn, and doesn't mention anything about this...I am not crazy.
I know when they have whole segments on SportsCenter and Outside the Lines about Auburn cheating while only having a bunch of bullshit hearsay, while casually mentioning this case with the mounds of evidence in front of them...that I am not crazy.
I know that when shit about all of Alabama's rivals come out because they are threatening to Alabama and I think Alabama has something to do with the bullshit...I am not crazy.
I know without a shadow of a doubt now, that Alabama people brought the hell on Cam and Auburn because they control state and national media...that I am not crazy.
It validates everything I have been thinking for years but have not been able to prove. This ties everything together. The John Phillips link ALONE ties this shit together.
I am not crazy...this shit is as real as it gets...whether Alabama gets in any kind of trouble or not.
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This doesn't necessarily mean that the entire program as a whole cheats in everything that is done, but it doesn't give an Alabama fan the foothold to argue against it either. As far as the media goes, yeah, I can see it. I won't subscribe to the notion that the REC controls every single media outlet in every single state, but I certainly believe that the state media and ESPN lean to Alabama. It's all about money. I mean, the Press Register had more Bear Bryant coverage in yesterday's print paper than they did about the 9/11 anniversary. Bear Bryant was on the front page. You can't argue that shit.
Yes. It does. Luther Davis is a booster. John Philips is a booster.
Where this "so glad it wasn't a booster" bullshit came from, I'll never know.
And after this, T-Town Menswear, Hot Wheelz of Mobile, Tom Al-Betar still being associated with the program, John Philips bragging that he spoke with Saban regularly, the recruitment of Kuondjio, Foster, Liner, Yeldon, and Calloway, etc. It's now a pretty big fucking leap of logic to assume Saban knew nothing about any of this. And even if he didn't? Just how the fuck do you define Lack of Institutional Control, because it's here in spades. That is, if he isn't orchestrating everything, which you'd be a fool to believe he isn't.
By the way, Bama's still on repeat offender status and will be until June 10, 2014. They were still on probation at the time of all this cheating, which ended June 10, 2012.
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The director of Pony Exce$$ said it best: "When you have individuals who need to win, the rules don't apply."
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The director of Pony Exce$$ said it best: "When you have individuals who need to win, the rules don't apply."
Is that the guy that killed all those hookers?
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By the way, Bama's still on repeat offender status and will be until June 10, 2014. They were still on probation at the time of all this cheating, which ended June 10, 2012.
Do you really think Bama will be punished by the NCAA for any of this?
Like WE!!!, I'm just glad that I know for sure now. That this sport is completely corrupt as the king has been breaking rules in order to win and the media has been helping covering it up.
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Well, in all fairness, he probably didn't know.
Do you think saban believes his routine #1 recruiting classes are solely the result of him being the greatest recruiter of all time?
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Do you really think Bama will be punished by the NCAA for any of this?
Like WE!!!, I'm just glad that I know for sure now. That this sport is completely corrupt as the king has been breaking rules in order to win and the media has been helping covering it up.
Spencer Tillman on JOX this morning. Says he wouldn't be surprised if UT and MSU got hit with penalties, but bama got off with basically nothing because of who they are.
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By the way, more to WAR EAGLE!!!'s point.
We also know we're not crazy that the mediais all over Bama's nuts. They have removed all doubt.
"Unbiased" third party Tony Kurre, who never shut up about what filthy cheaters Auburn was for certainly paying Cam? This morning was on the "these poor kids need the money" talking point. Just like everyone else.
Where were all the "The rules are stupid anyway" stories two fucking years ago? How has the culture of college football changed that much? As late as a couple months ago we had to endure ESPN giving 24 hour coverage of Selena Roberts' Roopstigo.blogspot.com article while simultaneously pushing a completely debunked piece about how our team was basically the Columbian Cartel. Of course, the second half of the documentary was a piece about how Bama saved the lives of poor souls who would otherwise be living off the streets.
For over 24 hours during all this scandal, this is the ESPN CFB front page right now.
http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/college-football/
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Nothing on ESPN's TV, internet, or any other service until about 4 hours after the story broke. Still haven't seen it mentioned on TV yet, and I watched longer than I have watched any non-game ESPN broadcast in years.
It's night and day. All doubt has been removed. We're not crazy. They're out to get us.
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Do you think saban believes his routine #1 recruiting classes are solely the result of him being the greatest recruiter of all time?
I'll stick up for him on this one. Yes, I believe Saban believes his routine and process and jibber jabber is the real reason why he lands #1 recruiting classes.
The guy is the most arrogant coach I've ever heard of. He thinks his shit doesn't stink. He as evidenced yesterday believes he can walk into a press conference where reporters are waiting to ask questions about his program and instruct them on what questions are allowed and what questions are not allowed.
I don't believe head coaches have the ability to control rogue boosters, agents, and their players from breaking NCAA rules and cheating to win. That's why universities have a compliance department. But you know who mostly works in these compliance departments? Most of the employees are fans of that school. And as we've seen repeatedly with Alabama fans, they'll do anything, look past anything, destroy anything to win.
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LOL
http://capstonereport.com/2013/09/11/dj-fluker-story-shows-times-tough-alabama/22024/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CapstoneReport+%28Capstone+Report%29
T imes must be tough in Tuscaloosa. There is plenty of bling in the trophy case, but apparently, not much is making its way to the players if we can judge based on the latest allegations involving DJ Fluker receiving illegal benefits from an agent.
In the past, the allegations of illegal benefits involving Alabama football players were much more interesting and had a higher price tag. Remember the days of Dodge Chargers? Now all players get are lame furniture from Sticks N Stuff and $500 via Western Union.
Are we paying Nick Saban too much? Have we increased his suit allowance and that puts a damper on what we can spend on players?
In all seriousness, the story is bad for the University of Alabama, the SEC, college football and Yahoo.
It is bad for Alabama because the refrain from lame Auburn fans (who deliriously believe Auburn didn’t buy Cam Newton when his father admitted to shopping his services to another SEC school) and other jealous haters around the nation will be that Alabama cheated. Unfortunately, there is no evidence that Alabama cheated. There was no institutional involvement. There is no evidence of a lack of institutional control or even a failure to monitor.
Of course, evidence could arise that changes that. However, as we’ve learned since the Dodge Charger and Gadsden days, those possibilities are rare—about as rare as an Auburn SEC win in 2012.
This story is bad for the SEC because it tarnishes the conference’s stirling record of compliance. No conference since the SWC could boast such a fine record of compliance with NCAA rules. This story is bad for college football because the greatest thing to happen to modern football is the possibility of a dynasty. It inspires other teams to become more competitive and motivates interest, which means it is good for ratings and the bottomline.
The Yahoo story itself is a nice job of investigative reporting. The information presented is explained, detailed and documented very nicely. It gives readers a chance to contemplate the information.
However, Pat Forde’s immature and petulant column posted late last night overshadowed that strong Yahoo editorial work. Forde took shots at Saban over his press conference demeanor and then blasted ESPN.
Forde’s attack on Saban is pathetic because Forde tried to make Saban’s behavior into something special.
Yet, this is how Saban normally responds when he doesn’t get his way in the press room. Ask Saban a dumb question, or ask a question more than once, and you get to see the side of Saban that obviously, “doesn’t have time for this stuff.â€â„¢
What was most interesting to me was this line regarding ESPN, “On the sideline, ESPN reporter Shannon Spake was doing a live stand-up via satellite – part of a week of buddy-buddy ESPN insider coverage of one of its most powerful and lucrative broadcast partners.â€
Buddy-Buddy ESPN insider coverage? Jealous much Forde?
Perhaps you benefited from the Worldwide Leader’s editorial supervision.
There is a clear editorial rivalry developing between some of these want-to-be organizations and the sporting world’s most dominant media player. Ordinarily, that type of rivalry is a good thing and helps generate substantially useful investigative reporting like the main Yahoo story. Yet, at times, it reveals the pettier nature of people like Forde.
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MSU is already on probation.
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WE pretty well said it all. And, I don't think anything other than vindication and peace of mind will come from this, but that's good enough.
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Barner Scarbinsky, the lone voice of reason:
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/09/could_dj_fluker_be_alabamas_ve.html
Could D.J. Fluker be Alabama's version of Reggie Bush? (Kevin Scarbinsky)
Kevin Scarbinsky
on September 12, 2013 at 7:01 AM
One’s a massive offensive tackle. The other’s a shifty running back. At first glance, D.J. Fluker and Reggie Bush have little in common. Or they had until Yahoo! Sports released its latest expose on the flourishing underground economy of major college football.
That story raises the disturbing possibility that Fluker could be to Alabama what Bush was to USC.
A player who helped win a national title and then helped lose it because he couldn’t wait until he left school to get paid.
According to the Yahoo! Sports story released Wednesday, former Alabama football player Luther Davis, acting as a middleman for agents and advisers in search of clients, provided extra benefits to five SEC football players.
One of them: Fluker, who finished his college career in January’s BCS Championship Game victory over Notre Dame and in April became a first-round NFL draft pick. The other players were from Mississippi State and Tennessee.
The story says that financial and text message records Yahoo! Sports obtained that belong to Davis “show agents and financial advisers moved at least $45,550 to Davis between September 2011 and December 2012†and that Davis moved “at least $12,700 in cash, airfare, living expenses or other receipts ... to the five players.â€
It’s impossible to read the allegations and not flash back to April, when the following message appeared on Fluker's Twitter account: “Yea I took $ n college so wat. I did wat I had to do. Agents was tryin to pimp me so I pimped them. Cast da 1st stone.â€
The curious explanation at the time from Fluker’s agent was that someone had hacked his account. The Yahoo! Sports story suggests the tweet may have been an admission of guilt.
As damning as the documents implicating Fluker appear to be, it’s a long way from a well-documented piece of investigative journalism to an NCAA investigation, hearing and ruling, let alone a BCS decision to strip a school of a crystal football.
It happened to USC because the NCAA believed Bush and his family received plenty of extra benefits during his college days and an assistant coach knew about some of the gifts from sports marketing agents who wanted to sign Bush as a client.
Even if Fluker did accept extra benefits before or during the 2012 season and there are documents to prove it, neither he nor Davis can be forced to talk to the NCAA. Even if the documents are enough to satisfy the NCAA that violations occurred, was there any reason for Alabama to know it or suspect it?
There’s one more parallel between the Fluker story and the Bush story. Yahoo! Sports also broke the story about the relationship between Bush and the marketing agents that led to the NCAA probe and the loss of the 2004 BCS title and Bush’s Heisman Trophy.
It may be to Alabama’s advantage that the NCAA enforcement operation is a shell of its former self, but the NCAA may find itself under enormous pressure to take a hard look at the dominant program of the last five years.
There’s a perception among rival fans that Alabama’s been under some sort of protective umbrella because of the relationship between Nick Saban and NCAA President Mark Emmert, who hired Saban at LSU. That perception has been fueled by the seeming lack of NCAA interest in reports of unusually friendly relationships between Alabama football players and in-state business owners such as Tom Albetar of T-Town Menswear in Tuscaloosa and Mitch Ross and Christopher Key of S.W.A.T.S. in Fultondale.
Will Alabama’s prominence and Yahoo! Sports’ reputation compel the NCAA to begin a full-scale investigation? The program's last NCAA probation ended in June of 2012, but Alabama is still in the five-year repeat violator window. Will that further whet the NCAA's appetite?
Does it raise more red flags that Davis, the alleged middleman, is a former Alabama player and sports agent John Phillips is an Alabama grad? According to the story, Phillips was providing money to Davis during a time period in which Davis was providing benefits to Fluker.
Davis and the agents he allegedly represented also could find themselves on the radar of the Alabama Attorney General for possible violations of the state’s Uniform Athlete Agents Act if they provided extra benefits to Fluker while he was still playing college football.
In another potential violation, Davis is not on the Alabama Secretary of State’s Comprehensive Listing of Registered Agents.
State Rep. Jack Williams is the co-chair of the Alabama Athlete Agents Commission. He said Wednesday night that the commission is scheduled to meet Sept. 25th and could forward information from the Fluker story to the attorney general’s office for potential investigation and prosecution.
It’s far too early to tell if this story will have legs as far as the NCAA or the state of Alabama are concerned, but Saban certainly understands what’s at stake here. Witness his angry response to repeated questions about the Fluker story after Wednesday’s practice and his abrupt exit from the podium.
Three days before Alabama’s rematch with Johnny Manziel and Texas A&M, the suggestion that one of his former star players may have jeopardized his amateur status and the team’s 2012 national title has to sting. The suggestion that another former player may have played the role of pimp, to use Saban's biting description of sketchy agents and their runners, has to cut even deeper.
It may never amount to anything more than temporary bad publicity, but at the moment, it has to qualify as five-alarm clutter.
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Lawls...totally forgot about the Hot Wheelz bullshit:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIkZrlQCUAAFqQ7.jpg)
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Oh...Oh God...Oh right there...harder...harder!
(http://i.imgur.com/wKT1iwD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pLAfl9i.jpg)
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So...back to this.
Where did it come from? Haven't seen anything about this anywhere else. This should be a bigger deal, in light of what we know now.
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Where did it come from? Haven't seen anything about this anywhere else. This should be a bigger deal, in light of what we know now.
I believe it was an ITAT guy a while back, but someone posted it on another football site and I stole it.
It's another shady Bama story with nothing really there to prove that it's a violation. Al-Betar is supposed to be disassociated from all things Bama as of 2011 yet he's still sending care packages to Jesse Williams' family in Australia. They must have become buddies when Williams was getting a pretzel at the mall. Oh, and he probably borrowed that BCSCG ring from him too.
But since Williams is gone, there's nothing actually illegal here. We just know it probably was illegal and Al-Betar probably was a handler for Jesse Williams, but there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Flukergate changed everything about that word "probably" though.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--nick-saban-s-curt-response-to-allegations-against-alabama-shows-a-coach--program-with-much-to-lose-025249105.html
Yahoo is twisting the knife...
So, yeah, this is serious. Especially for a fan base that is as intense (and unbalanced) as any in America.
Maybe others will start seeing this more.
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Barner Scarbinsky, the lone voice of reason:
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/09/could_dj_fluker_be_alabamas_ve.html
(http://juliasmexicocity.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ecdaa8a88330120a5425523970b-500wi)
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So, how many of you assholes woke up with a little extra pep in your step this morning? Told your wife her hair looks great? Gave that homeless guy on the corner a $20 bill on your way in to work?
:fu:
I would think that yawl would lay low and quit taking money for a while?
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I would think that yawl would lay low and quit taking money for a while?
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I can see this now. Saban leaves for Texas. Alabama (along with MSU and Tennessee) get made an example of by the NCAA. The SECs run ends in scandal. ESPN jizzes itself on the coverage of the death of the SEC.
Meanwhile the Leprechaun of Anger skates free...again
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Lawls...totally forgot about the Hot Wheelz bullshit:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIkZrlQCUAAFqQ7.jpg)
http://www.bloguin.com/crystalballrun/2013-articles/june/mississippi-state-put-on-probation-has-scholarships-reduced-thanks-to-good-old-cash-and-cars-recruitment.html
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I can see this now. Saban leaves for Texas. Alabama (along with MSU and Tennessee) get made an example of by the NCAA.
Belittle skates free...again
So "if" and that's a BIG IF ($ to OS) they have to vacate titles, do the mini-statues come down?
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So "if" and that's a BIG IF ($ to OS) they have to vacate titles, do the mini-statues come down?
They'll just claim the AP title
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They'll just claim the AP title
Yep.
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Are you sure about that?
I'm not. It works like this: Bama gets investigated because of Fluker and company, then, we get lack of institutinonal control.
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I can see this now. Saban leaves for Texas. Alabama (along with MSU and Tennessee) get made an example of by the NCAA. The SECs run ends in scandal. ESPN jizzes itself on the coverage of the death of the SEC.
Meanwhile the Leprechaun of Anger skates free...again
Slight modification:
Saban gets a "show cause"order and flees to the nfl...hello Jerry Jones.
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Slight modification:
Saban gets a "show cause"order and flees to the nfl...hello Jerry Jones.
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/000/953/533/WinkingNick_crop_340x234.jpg?1273854339)
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Hey. Just logged on and didn't want to read 9 pages. What are you guys talking about?
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Hey. Just logged on and didn't want to read 9 pages. What are you guys talking about?
Buzz wants Shane to enjoy his morning wood.
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Hey. Just logged on and didn't want to read 9 pages. What are you guys talking about?
Apparently you can send videos to Facebook!
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Hey. Just logged on and didn't want to read 9 pages. What are you guys talking about?
Albino whales and twerking.
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Slight modification:
Saban gets a "show cause"order and flees to the nfl...hello Jerry Jones.
Could work, Jerry got such a boner to get one more title before he goes away, he's not going to get it with what we have here now. Saban only corches one year because Jerry is worst then he is about control and goes back to the college ranks.
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The Jets will most likely have an opening. Probably Carolina, Tampa Bay, and Detroit as well.
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The Jets will most likely have an opening. Probably Carolina, Tampa Bay, and Detroit as well.
That would be ironic to see happen.
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Okay, well, uh... candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she's registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern. Okay, let's get two! Go get 'em.
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Okay, well, uh... candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she's registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern. Okay, let's get two! Go get 'em.
We're dealing with a lot of shit.
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We're dealing with a lot of shit.
Let's get two!
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Again, didn't go back and read all 9 pages so SIAP. But, the fact that Flucker was accepting $$$ from an agent immediately brings to mind Antonio Langham. From teh wiki's:
"Langham attended the University of Alabama, where he played for the Alabama Crimson Tide football team as a defensive back from 1991 to 1993. As a junior in 1993, he was recognized as a consensus first-team All-American. Later, however, he caused the Crimson Tide to forfeit most of its 1993 season and suffer NCAA sanctions by secretly signing with an agent during the previous offseason."
Question. Did Flucker actually sign with the agent or agents in question here?
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Question. Did Flucker actually sign with the agent or agents in question here?
I think it's closer to the Reggie Bush case at USC than Hang 'Em Langham's case.
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I think Fluker signed with someone else, hence the cooperation with this story.
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I think it's closer to the Reggie Bush case at USC than Hang 'Em Langham's case.
Bush's family was living in a house provided by the agent, while Bush was at USC, right? Refresh my memory.
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Bush's family was living in a house provided by the agent, while Bush was at USC, right? Refresh my memory.
Pretty sure you are correct on that.
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Bush's family was living in a house provided by the agent, while Bush was at USC, right? Refresh my memory.
Yes.
The NCAA determined that the only way that USC didn't know that Bush was receiving extra benefits from an agent was if USC had no control of their program. That's the main reason why USC got hit.
I still think Bama skates free. They can point back to Andre Smith in 2008 and say, "When we find out about players and agents, we report it and sit the player." They can also use their Dareus issue from a few years ago when the NCAA and media douches praised Alabama and Dareus for being so thoughtful when it came to covering up their cheating.
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Again, didn't go back and read all 9 pages so SIAP. But, the fact that Flucker was accepting $$$ from an agent immediately brings to mind Antonio Langham. From teh wiki's:
"Langham attended the University of Alabama, where he played for the Alabama Crimson Tide football team as a defensive back from 1991 to 1993. As a junior in 1993, he was recognized as a consensus first-team All-American. Later, however, he caused the Crimson Tide to forfeit most of its 1993 season and suffer NCAA sanctions by secretly signing with an agent during the previous offseason."
Question. Did Flucker actually sign with the agent or agents in question here?
It isn't about him signing with an agent. He didn't even end up signing with anybody associated with it, which is probably why this shit is surfacing. He apparently took money from a former Alabama player who was a runner for multiple agents, who was receiving money from those agents to try to entice new clients to come their way.
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It isn't about him signing with an agent. He didn't even end up signing with anybody associated with it, which is probably why this shit is surfacing. He apparently took money from a former Alabama player who was a runner for multiple agents, who was receiving money from those agents to try to entice new clients to come their way.
...which is worse.
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Look on the bright side, Token & RWS. You get to break the Got 12? shirts out again.
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Look on the bright side, Token & RWS. You get to break the Got 12? shirts out again.
This hussel....^^^right here^^^.....u did that rite
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Look on the bright side, Token & RWS. You get to break the Got 12? shirts out again.
I'm curious as to how long before we start seeing a decline in bama car decals and apparel in the B'Ham area.
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I'm curious as to how long before we start seeing a decline in bama car decals and apparel in the B'Ham area.
We can only hope that trend goes nation wide.
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http://www.nevertoyieldfoundation.com/2013/know-your-role/
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg.html)
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ESPN is maddening. Needs to be nuked off the airwaves.
A full 24 after the Yahoo! story broke? Hosannas to Bryant, discussions of the Manziel distraction and more raping of OSU dominate the college football front page. One small line about "five SEC players"
The ONLY two outlets in the entire country that spewed over Bryant yesterday at the expense of 9/11 and the breaking Yahoo! story? al.com and ESPN.
Conspiracy? These hats are not tinfoil, sir.
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NBC Sports (they do sports?) had an interview with Julie Roe Lach of Chiznik fame:
Do the link. (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/12/video-ex-ncaa-vp-julie-roe-lach-discusses-sec-agent-scandal/related/)
"It wouldn't surprise me if they were deploying investigators now..."
Pretty encouraging and enlightening info.
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NBC Sports (they do sports?) had an interview with Julie Roe Lach of Chiznik fame:
Do the link. (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/12/video-ex-ncaa-vp-julie-roe-lach-discusses-sec-agent-scandal/related/)
"It wouldn't surprise me if they were deploying investigators now..."
Pretty encouraging and enlightening info.
Ummm....
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I would be more encouraged if the link took me to nbcsports
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I would be more encouraged if the link took me to nbcsports
You mean like this:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/12/video-ex-ncaa-vp-julie-roe-lach-discusses-sec-agent-scandal/related/
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Wetzel just said on WJOX that they aren't going to give the NCAA any of this information, and even if they did, the NCAA would need Fluker to admit to the allegations before they could go after the Alabama program.
Now let me get this straight, a dude in the 90s signs a napkin and NCAA sanctions occur. Here we have hard evidence of agents and boosters getting money to college football players, and nothing can be done?
This is looney.
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Wetzel just said on WJOX that they aren't going to give the NCAA any of this information, and even if they did, the NCAA would need Fluker to admit to the allegations before they could go after the Alabama program.
Now let me get this straight, a dude in the 90s signs a napkin and NCAA sanctions occur. Here we have hard evidence of agents and boosters getting money to college football players, and nothing can be done?
This is looney.
That's absurd. Why bother gathering it if they're just going to do nothing with it? What was the point?
Where's Chopper and his DJ connection when you need him. He needs to go all KickAss 2 on this.
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That's absurd. Why bother gathering it if they're just going to do nothing with it? What was the point?
Where's Chopper and his DJ connection when you need him. He needs to go all KickAss 2 on this.
Wetzel and Robinson are very critical of the NCAA. They're writing these stories to prove that the NCAA can't enforce their own rules. That the agent situation is out of control.
At least, that's what the Bama media is trying to tell me. Honestly, they could be right. Why not give the NCAA all of this information if you want them to clean up the sport? What's the end game here?
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I mean, we've just got do do away with speed limits. EVERYBODY speeds. Absolutely nothing can be done about it to deter people from speeding, like, you know, punishing those who are caught. Time to look at the law and readjust it.
Or as theauburner put it:
Little girl says I cheat at Candlyand. I explain how I'm exposing the folly of the rules. Focus on that. Stop dwelling over my win streak. Do you have any idea how much money Milton Bradley rakes in on the backs of small children? Ridiculous. Let's talk about that, too.
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Jesus Fluker? Learn something every day.
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I'm drunk and not embarrassed to ask: FKG?
Football Karma Gods - first cousin to the BKG, or Baseball Karma Gods, who hate me.
I ain't taking no chances.
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It isn't about him signing with an agent. He didn't even end up signing with anybody associated with it, which is probably why this shit is surfacing. He apparently took money from a former Alabama player who was a runner for multiple agents, who was receiving money from those agents to try to entice new clients to come their way.
= took money from a booster. This shit is not going to sink.
After the Miami debacle, the NCAA will take their time and make sure everything is done right. This will take a long time, but it will happen. Death penalty ? Almost certainly not. Putting a return FedEx label on those two boxes ? Probably. But not for a few years. Saban departing ? 50/50.
And to echo many on this thread, fuck these guys that say everyone does it and the school should not be held accountable. - And, unfortunately this refrain will grow.
If they want to change the rules because of this and make all this permissable, fine with me. Bottom line though, bummer broke the rules while they were in effect and they have to pay the price, even if they get the frequent customer discount.
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ESPN continues to suck goat ass. Two no name hacks sat in for SVP and Russillo today. Their take:
"You couldn't have more clear evidence of Cam's cheating in 2010, but nothing was done. If you're going to let Auburn get away with it and win a NC, then you have to let bama slide."
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ESPN continues to suck goat ass. Two no name hacks sat in for SVP and Russillo today. Their take:
"You couldn't have more clear evidence of Cam's cheating in 2010, but nothing was done. If you're going to let Auburn get away with it and win a NC, then you have to let bama slide."
You see, I just don't understand why someone can fake a slip and fall on my property, sue me and likely get a 5k prize for participating and then there is no liklihood of suing this irresponsible bastard for making a statement like this. He is tarnishing Cam and AU with statements like this. And I suppose this was an ESPN "professional" journalist?
It propogates the idea that AU and/or Cam cheated. I think Cam should sue their ass. And if not, send somebody to kick his ass.
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ESPN continues to suck goat ass. Two no name hacks sat in for SVP and Russillo today. Their take:
"You couldn't have more clear evidence of Cam's cheating in 2010, but nothing was done. If you're going to let Auburn get away with it and win a NC, then you have to let bama slide."
Yeah, you could. Like any evidence whatsoever. Like this Bama story has.
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The Wonderful World of ESPN:
Miss State booster asks Miss State coaches for $180k equals Chizik and Auburn just HAD to have paid more to get Cam Newton's signature.
Alabama booster has checks written to an Alabama player and Alabama deserves no punishment because Auburn got away with it.
Whatever...ESPN will lose a lot of money when college football crumbles.
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Something else -
Mark Emmert said that the NCAA takes every allegation seriously, and I'm not sure if he directly said it, but he at least implied that they were investigating Auburn partly because of emails and message board posts and also anything sent to them from Tuscaloosa.
Yet Robinson and Wetzel are saying the NCAA won't even look into this because they can't use a Yahoo Sports article as a basis for their investigation?
Am I hearing this right?
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Well then...time for someone to email the NCAA enforcement people that Tom Albetar is still associated with the bama program and he's the handler for some of their players, present & past (TJ Yeldon, Cyrus Kouandijo, Arie Kouandijo, Jesse Williams, tRent Richardson, Julio Jones, Terence Cody & Tyrone Prothro to name a few).
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Well then...time for someone to email the NCAA enforcement people that Tom Albetar is still associated with the bama program and he's the handler for some of their players, present & past (Jesse Williams, TRent Richardson, Julio Jones, Terence Cody & Tyrone Prothro to name a few).
Serious question here. Do you really think that the NCAA wants to investigate Bama? I do not. So, unless there is a national uprising (and I wouldn't classify this incident as meeting that criteria), it ain't gonna happen. Not a real one anyway.
We endure a season full of snooping based off of Miss. State rumors but they will get a day or two at best. Nothing to see here, move along people.
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Not sure if already posted....Of the 5 players named in Yahoo's first piece, four of them took money from an Agent...one took money from a Booster (Fluker).
Also, why does a kid that lived in a car down by the river with four other people, and is being portrayed as being dirt poor, have a bank account at THREE different branches?
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So, how many of you assholes woke up with a little extra pep in your step this morning? Told your wife her hair looks great? Gave that homeless guy on the corner a $20 bill on your way in to work?
:fu:
This is actual footage of me this morning.
http://youtu.be/eoEojphw7kk
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This is actual footage of me this morning.
http://youtu.be/eoEojphw7kk
But the tar baby, he say nothin
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:hulk:
HULK
SMASH
CA$H
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My take (not that it means shit, just how I see it)..
I think alot of AU fans are kinda skeptical of anything happening and deservedly so. There has been alot of shit come to the surface at UAT recently and so far nothing has been investigated by the NCAA. However, the things that happened before were not near as documented as this Yahoo! report. Its all there. Paper trail, e-mails, text messages it all there. Also the fact that UAT has pretty much said already this is an ongoing investigation on their part and not just your random 24 hours cease and desist crap makes me believe they know this shit is serious. It should also be noted that today Tennessee suspended their guy that was named who still has eligibility left. Don't think they are concerned? Trust me folks UAT is fucking worried and they damn well should be. The ball isn't in their court. The direction UT and MSU will play a part in how UAT handles themselves. Afterall, IF MSU and UT decide to cooperate fully and admit they had players receiving benefits from an agent, its gonna be hard as hell for UAT deny and keep quiet like many of them believe they should. Considering UT and MSU are already on probation I see them cooperating fully with the NCAA with hope that the NCAA doesn't hammer their ass since they are already on probation. Afterall, its a rogue agent that targeted their players so I could see the NCAA not stepping on their throats if they played along. UAT on the other hand doesn't have an agent problem, they have a booster problem. That is a whole lot different thing all together.
I'm not sure of the his exact batting average in the stories he breaks but I don't recall many Charles Robinson stories that didn't bring the NCAA hounds sniffing. My guess is UAT is about to lose some hardware at minimum.
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I'm not sure of the his exact batting average in the stories he breaks but I don't recall many Charles Robinson stories that didn't bring the NCAA hounds sniffing. My guess is UAT is about to lose some hardware at minimum.
I had a buddy at work tell me that he wished it was Thayer Evans that reported it not Charles Robinson.
My sympathetic response.....
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I'm gonna be honest here, at this point, I don't even care if bama gets sanctions or not. It is however, fun to watch them squirm after all the bs I heard in 2010. There is a balance that has to be kept here in this state or in the long run Auburn fans will have to pay for the bammers trangressions: spouse abuse, alcoholic interventions, unemployment and divorce court.
http://youtu.be/zMhgyzUC5S0
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Watching ESPN now. Hosts are getting wood over "rampant drug abuse at OSU."
Not a peep about Bama, of course. If that's mentioned on ESPN, it's only to talk about how payers should be paid anyway. But OSU needs to be burned to the ground, of course.
Also, I just got back from a little after work thing. Was chatting with two Bammers (yes we have them too).
"It's really not right that these kids aren't allowed to be paid. And it really pisses me off that people are trying to make this an Alabama problem. This is an agent problem."
Didn't have the balls to retort. Just shook my head in silence.
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Watching ESPN now. Hosts are getting wood over "rampant drug abuse at OSU."
Not a peep about Bama, of course. If that's mentioned on ESPN, it's only to talk about how payers should be paid anyway. But OSU needs to be burned to the ground, of course.
Also, I just got back from a little after work thing. Was chatting with two Bammers (yes we have them too).
"It's really not right that these kids aren't allowed to be paid. And it really pisses me off that people are trying to make this an Alabama problem. This is an agent problem."
Didn't have the balls to retort. Just shook my head in silence.
Fucking pussy...
That dissappoints me...
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Not a peep about Bama, of course. If that's mentioned on ESPN, it's only to talk about how payers should be paid anyway.
I like how many are trying to say that since Fluker was a Katrina victim, he deserved to look for any help he could find.
You know, that hurricane that hit eight years ago.
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Grieving....
It's a process
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Watching ESPN now. Hosts are getting wood over "rampant drug abuse at OSU."
Not a peep about Bama, of course. If that's mentioned on ESPN, it's only to talk about how payers should be paid anyway. But OSU needs to be burned to the ground, of course.
Also, I just got back from a little after work thing. Was chatting with two Bammers (yes we have them too).
"It's really not right that these kids aren't allowed to be paid. And it really pisses me off that people are trying to make this an Alabama problem. This is an agent problem."
Didn't have the balls to retort. Just shook my head in silence.
Had nearly the same thing happen to me today, two guys talking abit how players should be paid, yada, yada...and how it's an agent problem, yada, yada. I stepped in and said, yeah it's definitely an agent problem for the Tennessee & Mississippi State guys, but regarding Alabama it's a Booster problem.
That's when one of the guys stated that he wished Thayer Evans had written the piece instead of Charles Robinson.
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Not sure if already stated...the woman standing next to Tom Albetar looks very familiar.
(http://s24.postimg.org/ieqxpcq51/image.jpg)
(http://www.athleteswives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Terry-Saban-e1357774136629.jpg)
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I like how many are trying to say that since Fluker was a Katrina victim, he deserved to look for any help he could find.
You know, that hurricane that hit eight years ago.
LSU apparently gets free reign to break the bank.
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Fucking pussy...
That dissappoints me...
Chizad will argue with them on twitter later
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I just had a Bammer I knew from high school email me, wanting to know why Auburn fans are "spewing so much hatred and glee" over "the whole Fluker thing"
For the record, this bastard was the bane of my existence all through school. He is the primary reason I hate those inbred motherfuckers like I do.
Unlike Chizad, I had the balls to set him straight.
You seriously and with a straight face can't understand why Auburn fans are spewing so much hatred and glee? You must have been absent from the Internet and without cable during the whole 2010 season. The hatred spewed in our direction was unprecedented - do the green Roll Ducks tshirts ring a bell? Scam Newton signs on Gameday? The Cam garbage was spewed at us for a solid year with ZERO evidence - no pics, no checks, no texts - and still to this day, the narrative is that Auburn cheated. Never mind that the NCAA gave us a proctology exam and found NOTHING - we cheated. End of story. At the same time, pictures surface of Tom AlBetar having dinner with half the football team who spent the day signing hundreds of items in his store and Julio Jones shows up in a different suit pre-game every week... Crickets. Bammer players without a pot to pee in are driving expensive cars with $1000 rims and tweeting pictures of hundred dollar bills... and the media goes "Nothing to see here, move along..." Cam's daddy was wrong to entertain the idea of maybe taking some money even tho his church was condemned and falling down around his ears, but DJ needed the money and a $1500 bed because his family was poor and that's ok. That kind of double standard is crap, and it gets really old, really fast.
And if you want to start comparing hate for opposing fans, brother, I'm thinking Harvey Updyke pretty much gives Bammer another championship. Until an Auburn fan blows up Denny Chimes or the statue of the Bear, don't talk to me about hatred being manifested in a tangible way. We limit ourselves to words. Your fans KILL THINGS. I myself will never ever forgive or forget that. Ever.
So you will have to forgive us for our schadenfreude over bammer's misfortune. We've been targeted unfairly for so long that seeing some of the crap that has heretofore been ignored come back to bite Bammer in the ass is quite gratifying. I don't think anything will come of it, even though there is hard, cold, irrefutable evidence of violations, mainly because Bammer is Teflon where the NCAA is concerned. I don't know why that is, and I am not enough of a tin foil hat wearer to try and figure it out. But in the meantime, until that story is swept under the rug with the rest of them, seeing the Tide fans sweat bullets is fun while it lasts. You guys deserve and have earned every bit of it.
Fuck them.
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I just had a Bammer I knew from high school email me, wanting to know why Auvurn fans are "spewing so much hatred and glee" over "the whole Fluker thing"
For the record, this bastard was the bane of my existence all through school. He is the primary reason I hate those inbred motherfuckers like I do.
Unlike Chizad, I had the balls to set him straight.
Fuck them.
I love you
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I love you
<3 you too darlin.
But fuck them. With Updyke's dick.
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I just had a Bammer I knew from high school email me, wanting to know why Auburn fans are "spewing so much hatred and glee" over "the whole Fluker thing"
For the record, this bastard was the bane of my existence all through school. He is the primary reason I hate those inbred motherfuckers like I do.
Unlike Chizad, I had the balls to set him straight.
Fuck them.
Wow the diatribe was perfectly written, wench! :clap:
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Wench, you should change your name to something like "Tiger Goddess". You are the perfect Auburn Babe
Love you Wench/Goddess <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
BTW.......Melissa loved you too
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Anyone remember this article a couple of years ago?
A "serial repeat violator," with an "abysmal infractions track record" and an "extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA.†- NCAA's COI Chairman Paul Dee
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/618774-alabama-ncaa-death-penalty-looms-unmatched-recent-violation-history-ncaa
uat was still in the Repeat Offender window with these new Major Violations (in uat's case, the Repeat, Repeat, Repeat Offender window).
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Not sure if already stated...the woman standing next to Tom Albetar looks very familiar.
(http://s24.postimg.org/ieqxpcq51/image.jpg)
(http://www.athleteswives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Terry-Saban-e1357774136629.jpg)
KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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I just had a Bammer I knew from high school email me, wanting to know why Auburn fans are "spewing so much hatred and glee" over "the whole Fluker thing"
For the record, this bastard was the bane of my existence all through school. He is the primary reason I hate those inbred motherfuckers like I do.
Unlike Chizad, I had the balls to set him straight.
Fuck them.
http://youtu.be/hkMoRufEWQo
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Why Tide Should Be Worried About Fluker (via http://t.co/L6QQY2w2d3) http://t.co/MYiEPvLFM4
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Hmmm...what do you know? The first recent "scandal" with actual tangible evidence.
But this situation is different than the Newton scandal and the autograph situation that cost Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel the first half of this season's opener versus Rice.
There is a paper trail—one that includes bank statements, invoices and cell phone records. Basically, the majority of the evidence that the public and NCAA lacked in the Manziel and Newton cases already exists in the Fluker case.
That's a rather strong jumping-off point for the NCAA.
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<3 you too darlin.
But fuck them. With Updyke's dick.
I do not agree. I hope he gets that cut off and never enjoys the pleasure again.
Carry on!
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I love you
Awesome aint she?
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Awesome aint she?
Get off my Kool-Aid motherfucka!
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I do not agree. I hope he gets that cut off and never enjoys the pleasure again.
Carry on!
Didn't say it had to be attached to him. But I ain't touching it.
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Hey nookie, there's an idea for a sex toy that would appeal to the inbred masses. A small houndstooth dildo with the caption "Harvey Updike's Dick - then you too can have too much bammer in you. "
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Hey nookie, there's an idea for a sex toy that would appeal to the inbred masses. A small houndstooth dildo with the caption "Harvey Updike's Dick - then you too can have too much bammer in you. "
I know you are being sarcastic, but houndstooth dildo's would be in every singlewide trailer in the state. Think of the money you could make from it.
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I know you are being sarcastic, but houndstooth dildo's would be in every singlewide trailer in the state. Think of the money you could make from it.
And if it were a realistic replica of Lord Saybinz junk, we could all retire in a year from that mighty mite.
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I could have easily made up some witty retort in hindsight and pretended like I said it here. I don't do that. I usually go off on motherfuckers.
But this was at a work thing, and it was my wife's friends' boyfriends, and I've been down this road so many times. There's just no reasoning with these people. It's a waste of breath and a fight with my wife for being confrontational with her friends. Been there, done that. I just shook my head in disgust and didn't respond with the "Yeah, you're totally right" that they were looking for. That got through to them as much as any verbal argument would have anyway.
That being said, Wench's written response is as succinctly perfect as any I've seen. Well done.
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Scam Newton signs on Gameday?
By the way, $cammer Jammer needs to be a new meme. I want to see signs, T-shirts, etc.
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By the way, $cammer Jammer needs to be a new meme. I want to see signs, T-shirts, etc.
THIS^^^
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I just had a Bammer I knew from high school email me, wanting to know why Auburn fans are "spewing so much hatred and glee" over "the whole Fluker thing"
For the record, this bastard was the bane of my existence all through school. He is the primary reason I hate those inbred motherfuckers like I do.
Unlike Chizad, I had the balls to set him straight.
Fuck them.
His response?
"We'll just have to agree to disagree..."
Lame.
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The hatred spewed in our direction was unprecedented - do the green Roll Ducks tshirts ring a bell? Scam Newton signs on Gameday?
I don't mind the Scam Newton signs on Gameday so much. It's a rivalry thing. Of course our rivals are going to exploit any negative press against us just like I would want to do the same thing with the Logan Young story and the Mike Price story.
But what bothered me the most was how they infiltrated my daily life with their bullshit. You can find posts about these on this site back when the story was still alive:
1. Going to Publix and the bagboy was wearing a Scam Newton shirt. Asking him if it's appropriate to wear to work and he and the cashier chuckling about "Aubies are so upset."
2. Dick's Sporting Goods in Hoover having all kinds of window paint of Alabama and Roll Tide! and all this other shit before the 2011 BCSCG. I spotted a manager as soon as I walked in and asked if they had the same amount of decor for the Auburn BCSCG and he said something along the lines of, "We don't celebrate teams that buy their championships."
That's why those fuckers can squirm and burn in hell. Then on top of it all, those goddamn assholes had one of their own destroy the most sacred and cherished monument on Auburn's campus and they still celebrate that cocksucker. He's going to College Station this weekend. Anyone seen that yet? Not going to the game, but you bet he'll be hanging out with his brethren.
Seriously. Fuck them.
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Wench-I c/p for other uses.
And I want to have your child.
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Definitely should be front page material, IMO.
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Gregg Doyel, who is usually spot on, whiffs big time.
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/23627539/dont-punish-alabama-for-alleged-actions-of-former-player-and-middleman
Don't punish Alabama for alleged actions of ex-player, middleman
September 13, 2013 9:57 am ET
D.J. Fluker is no longer at Alabama, so why should Tide pay? (USATSI) D.J. Fluker is no longer at Alabama, so why should Tide pay? (USATSI)
If Alabama knew star offensive tackle D.J. Fluker was on the take, then the NCAA should throw the book at the Crimson Tide. Reduce their scholarships. Put them on probation. Take away, yes, the 2011 and '12 national championships.
But only if Alabama knew -- or should have known -- that Fluker had jeopardized his eligibility by accepting money from a middleman.
Otherwise, what are we talking about here? We're talking about a handful of alleged cheaters in this story, none of them named "Alabama."
Nothing shocks anymore
Dodd: Dirty business old hat
Fluker broke NCAA rules by taking money from a leech trying to get his hooks into a future NFL draft pick, if the allegations in this story are true. And if true, the leech in question -- former Crimson Tide defensive end Luther Davis -- broke Alabama state law by giving money to a college athlete. So did any agent or financial adviser Davis was representing.
That's a lot of alleged cheaters and rules-breakers and criminals.
Know who didn't cheat or break any rules or laws?
Alabama.
This is where some people will roll their eyes at me, and where people from Miami and Southern California might even be yelling at me, so this is where I make the following confession: My opinion on this form of "cheating" has evolved over the years. Used to be, when a school got caught doing something like this, I went all Old Testament on the school. Miami and Nevin Shapiro? Punish Miami. USC and Mike Ornstein? Punish USC.
Something that didn't occur to me until recent years -- prompted, I guess, by another evolving opinion: that college football players should be paid -- was hidden in a previous sentence. Let me write it for you again. Let's see if you catch it:
Used to be, when a school got caught doing something like this ...
See the problem there? In the case of D.J. Fluker, the school didn't do anything. Fluker allegedly did something, but he's gone to the NFL. Middleman Luther Davis allegedly did something, but he doesn't work for Alabama. The agent, the financial rep? Same story. So if the NCAA is going to hammer somebody in this scandal, it will be the one party that wanted no part of it:
Alabama.
Alabama didn't need Luther Davis to get D.J. Fluker on campus in 2011, because he was already there. It's possible Davis' financial assistance helped keep Fluker on campus after his redshirt sophomore season, when he could have turned pro, but we don't know that. We do know Fluker's draft stock was a mole hill in 2011 compared to the mountain it became after his All-America breakthrough in 2012. Bottom line, the one entity in this entire scandal that didn't need Luther Davis to even exist was Alabama.
But that's who will take a beating from the NCAA? Alabama?
That's stupid, and this is where I circle back to USC and Miami. This is where I examine whether the same adjective -- stupid -- applies to NCAA sanctions for USC with marketing maven Mike Ornstein, and to Miami with rogue booster Nevin Shapiro. And to do that, let's circle all the way back to the first few sentences of this story, where I absolve Alabama (and any school put in a similar position) as long as they didn't know about the violations ... and shouldn't have known.
Let's start by giving Miami and USC the benefit of the doubt and assume they didn't know what Shapiro, Ornstein and their cronies were doing. Miami and USC didn't know -- fair enough. But should they have? Shapiro is on record saying he made it rain for years on Miami athletes, and he was given VIP treatment by the Miami administration. At USC, Reggie Bush was eventually connected to people that bought him a car and put up his parents in a $750,000 house.
Should Miami have known? Should USC? Bush's car was nice but not absurdly so. The $750,000 home his parents lived in while he was at school was beyond their means, but it was 130 miles from campus. Should USC have known about that? Should Miami have known about the nickels and dimes Shapiro was throwing at UM athletes? Lord, don't ask me.
All I know is this: Unless D.J. Fluker was throwing around cash like a big shot, how would Alabama know that some leech had sunk its hooks into him? And if Alabama didn't know, how can the NCAA crush them for it?
There's probably some naivete on my part here. There have been and will be big-time NCAA football programs that want people like Luther Davis, Nevin Shapiro and Mike Ornstein in their midst. There are college coaches, whether it's an established head coach or an ambitious young assistant on the rise, who unearth leeches to do the dirty work. And there are NCAA coaches whose agents also represent NFL players, which could lead to all sorts of unethical conduct by an agent. I'm aware of that.
Also I'm aware that allowing schools to hide behind plausible deniability would encourage renegade boosters to start paying players, even recruits, without fear of hurting the program -- since the program didn't know. The booster takes the risk, and if he gets caught the booster takes the fall. But dear old State U goes on about its business, blissfully unaware and therefore untouched by the NCAA.
Years ago I would have laughed at someone for writing the exact thing I'm writing now, but dammit times have changed. Minds are changing, including mine, about the money flowing throughout college football, almost all of it out of (legal) reach of the players. But they know about that money, and they know the rules are stupid and unfair. So along comes an alleged leech like Luther Davis, and there's D.J. Fluker who spent time living in a car after Hurricane Katrina destroyed his family's home in New Orleans. Fluker's mom has nothing to give him for spending money. Luther Davis offers a few bucks.
D.J. Fluker accepts. Allegedly.
A few years later the NCAA wades in and tries to make sense of a senseless situation. All it can do is hammer Alabama for the violations of D.J. Fluker and the crimes of Luther Davis. Does that seem fair to you? It doesn't seem fair to me.
The system is broken, so I'm not asking the NCAA to come up with some magical solution. I'm just asking the NCAA to not make it worse.
:facepalm:
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Wench-I c/p for other uses.
And I want to have your child.
Help yourself to the post - but my uterus is retired.
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Help yourself to the post - but my uterus is retired.
After that article I'll carry the thing.
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I just had a Bammer I knew from high school email me, wanting to know why Auburn fans are "spewing so much hatred and glee" over "the whole Fluker thing"
For the record, this bastard was the bane of my existence all through school. He is the primary reason I hate those inbred motherfudgeers like I do.
Unlike Chizad, I had the balls to set him straight.
fudge them.
This was eloquent, factual and pretty much describes exactly the way that I feel too. Good stuff. :bar:
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Wench, you should change your name to something like "Tiger Goddess". You are the perfect Auburn Babe
Love you Wench/Goddess <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
BTW.......Melissa loved you too
I know she did, honey, and I miss her too.
Love you as well. And I am perfectly content being the Wench. :)
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Help yourself to the post - but my uterus is retired.
Doesn't mean you can't give it the ol' college try
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Doesn't mean you can't give it the ol' college try
Stage door Johnnies constantly suwwound me
They always hound me
With one wequest.
Who can satisfy their lustful habits?
I'm not a wabbit.
I need some we...est.
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But only if Alabama knew -- or should have known -- that Fluker had jeopardized his eligibility by accepting money from a middleman.
And here is the big point.
After Smith, Harris, Jones, Ingram, Dareus, Richardson, and T-Town Menswear, how could anyone including the NCAA believe that Alabama didn't know?
How can you look at those stories and not see a pattern? An annual pattern?
It seems every year there's something. Cyrus Koundjiro commits to Auburn on live TV. He doesn't send in the form. Immediately switches to Alabama. Brent Calloway is an Auburn commit. Is whisked away to Pensacola and signs with Alabama.
Hot Wheelz. Deer Antler Spray.
Sticks n Stuff. An Alabama alum and rich lawyer providing cash through a former Alabama player. This lawyer admitting to having routine conversations with Nick Saban.
You're telling me Alabama didn't know? Can't do anything about it? Has a lack of control over all of this?
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And here is the big point.
After Smith, Harris, Jones, Ingram, Dareus, Richardson, and T-Town Menswear, how could anyone including the NCAA believe that Alabama didn't know?
How can you look at those stories and not see a pattern? An annual pattern?
It seems every year there's something. Cyrus Koundjiro commits to Auburn on live TV. He doesn't send in the form. Immediately switches to Alabama. Brent Calloway is an Auburn commit. Is whisked away to Pensacola and signs with Alabama.
Hot Wheelz. Deer Antler Spray.
Sticks n Stuff. An Alabama alum and rich lawyer providing cash through a former Alabama player. This lawyer admitting to having routine conversations with Nick Saban.
You're telling me Alabama didn't know? Can't do anything about it? Has a lack of control over all of this?
Don't forget about the above-board-totally-random-legit house sitting job!
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Don't forget about the above-board-totally-random-legit house sitting job!
D.J. Fluker autotune remix anyone?
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Don't forget about the above-board-totally-random-legit house sitting job!
I have forgotten about that one. Remind me.
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Tweeted the picture of Terry & Al-Betar.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUDfDFHCAAEr-Ae.jpg:large)
Bammers going nuts on me "You don't even know what Mrs. Terri looks like brah".
If it's not her, she has a doppleganger. How they can say it doesn't look at all like her is more Jedi Mind Trick bullshit.
(http://www.athleteswives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Terry-Saban-e1357774136629.jpg)
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/000/743/618/RackMultipart.20636.0_crop_340x234.png?1256779678)
(http://southernlivingthedailysouth.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/nick-and-terry.jpg)
(http://capstonereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/GroupBarkerTerrySaban.jpg)
How is that not her?
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Don't know bra....They all seem equally as ugly to me.
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Don't know bra....They all seem equally as ugly to me.
Yeah, like you wouldn't slip 'em the old salami.
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Yeah, like you wouldn't slip 'em the old salami.
Can she throwdown in a kitchen?
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Can she throwdown in a kitchen?
Looks like she was and her face hit the stove. (with it on)
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This is why I got blasted.
https://twitter.com/BourbonGhost/status/378569185971806208
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It's her.
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Jesus. At first I thought it was just a doppelgänger, but that really may be her.
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(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Xi1yPNdzZcc/maxresdefault.jpg)
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I think the woman in the Tom pic has more face fat and a smaller nose. But even the nose wrinkles appear to be the same.
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I'm getting full-scale attacked on Twitter.
Lots of angry bammers. That's how I know it's definitely Terry.
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I'm getting full-scale attacked on Twitter.
Lots of angry bammers. That's how I know it's definitely Terry.
I don't think so, man. May not be a battle you want to fight. Terry has a very distinct and sharp schnozz. I don't the fed ex woman has it. Though the resemblance is uncanny.
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(http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/files/2013/01/terry-saban.jpg)
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I don't think so, man. May not be a battle you want to fight. Terry has a very distinct and sharp schnozz. I don't the fed ex woman has it. Though the resemblance is uncanny.
Maybe T Town Tom is trying to have Saban's wife...Just like he has an imitation National Championship ring.
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(http://media.al.com/alabamafootball_impact/photo/11968400-large.jpg)
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(http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/3/29/3883715/104004-650-366.jpg)
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That's quite enough pictures of that hatchet faced crab. Please stop.
It's her. In all of them. There aren't two ugly haints like that in the same place.
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Anyone on twitter, do a search of my name. Bammers are mad, y'all.
Apparently, I've become the Donald Trump to the Terry Saban birth certificate.
Somehow they all think I took the picture. I'm a psycho stalker, y'all.
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The hair. The style of dress, the face that looks like a gargoyle mated with Bea Arthur? Yeah. It's her.
(http://media.nola.com/lsu_impact/photo/terry-sabanjpg-16b7651d0a17148a.jpg)
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If that's true, then there is no bigger smoking gun than the fucking wife of the head coach helping a disassociated booster send care packages to former players.
But I still say its not her.
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If that's true, then there is no bigger smoking gun than the fucking wife of the head coach helping a disassociated booster send care packages to former players.
But I still say its not her.
If it's not her, then I want to see who it was. I challenge Tom Al-betar to show us this doppelganger and Terry in the same room. Won't happen.
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If it's not her, then I want to see who it was. I challenge Tom Al-betar to show us this doppelganger and Terry in the same room. Won't happen.
But will you take a polygraph test, Danny?
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If it's not her, then I want to see who it was. I challenge Tom Al-betar to show us this doppelganger and Terry in the same room. Won't happen.
It looks exactly like her. I get that. Part of me just can't believe,they would be this blatant. Also these pics were taken back in January. ITaT didn't even pick up on this.
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If it's not her, then I want to see who it was. I challenge Tom Al-betar to show us this doppelganger and Terry in the same room. Won't happen.
So when are you going on Finebaum? Jack Arute?
Do you know the format?
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Of course they're that blatant.
There's nothing to see here anyway. People go to FedEx all the time. Was just a coincidence that she was there when he was. She was there picking up a package of ugly, because she used up a 40-year supply of ugly on that head of hers.
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His response?
"We'll just have to agree to disagree..."
Lame.
Let me translate that for you, "I just had my dick ripped off and fed to me. I have no intelligent nor logical response."
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It looks exactly like her. I get that. Part of me just can't believe,they would be this blatant. Also these pics were taken back in January. ITaT didn't even pick up on this.
Would you think they would be so blatant as to write checks and wire transfers with "DJ Fluker Invoice" in the reason field?
The original post did acknowledge it was January. Why is that a question, and why does that matter?
So guess who I ran into at the FedEx Store in tuscalooser earlier this year (1/22/13)? None other than Mr. T-Town Menswear himself. I was waiting in line when Ms. Chatty Cathy in the next line over notices the MNC ring that he was wearing (wonder where he got THAT from) and asks him about his role with the bammer football team. He proceeds to tell her that he is "close with all the guys" and that he is actually "Jesse William's manager." He tells her (and everyone in the damn store) that he is shipping Jesse's framed diploma and helmet to Jesse's dad in Australia. He also told her that he hung out with all of the players in Miami at the game, etc. He even got out his phone and was showing her all the pictures from the trip and stuff. Anyways, this story is worthless without pics, right? Behold. This all goes to show, nay PROVE, that Tom Albetar continued to maintain contacts with players and the program after the famed cease and desist letter.
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Why is Nick Saban so focused on football?
Because if I had to go home to that Bea Arthur bulldog, I'd spend every minute I could at the football complex, too. Even Julio Jones ugly gremlin mug is better than that.
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Would you think they would be so blatant as to write checks and wire transfers with "DJ Fluker Invoice" in the reason field?
You expect invoices to remain private. Going out in public to a store and shipping care packages to players with a disassociated booster that most likely was providing extra benefits for autographs?
That would have been like Cam Newton taking Kenny Rogers to dinner the night of the NFL Draft, snapping a photo, and uploading it to Facebook with the caption, "Out paying back an old family friend for all the help he gave us the past few years!"
Blatant cheating to me is football players driving fancy cars with new rims and bragging about "struggle ova wit."
This is flaunting it. This is struttin' down the Indy Highway letting everyone know you can do whatever you want and no one will ask you about it.
The original post did acknowledge it was January. Why is that a question, and why does that matter?
Because ITAT is where the photos were first uploaded, and they are the king and queen of conspiracy theories pertaining to Alabama. They've been the source of all Alabama innuendo and rumor since Saban was hired, and they didn't even catch that the woman in the photograph looks like Terry Saban. Makes me question if we're not being crazier than they are.
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Of course we're crazier than they are. We've got a Bottomfeeder.
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I don't think it is her either, but I have enjoyed laughing my ass off regarding the last two pages of this thread.
I also learned Kaos and I finally agree on a woman.
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Getting away from the Saban/NotSaban debate -
Wasn't there an agent not too long ago that was writing a book and mentioned that he could tell you about how dirty a few specific college programs were? Didn't he insinuate or even name Alabama as one of them?
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Getting away from the Saban/NotSaban debate -
Wasn't there an agent not too long ago that was writing a book and mentioned that he could tell you about how dirty a few specific college programs were? Didn't he insinuate or even name Alabama as one of them?
Yeppers. I read the article just this morning on ITAT. Looking for it again, and cannot find it for the life of me.
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I got a ton more shit than just this, but these three tweets and their comments can serve as a "best of".
https://twitter.com/BourbonGhost/status/378569185971806208
https://twitter.com/banditref/status/378594241171423232
https://twitter.com/AUChizad/status/378597378812420096
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I got a ton more shoot than just this, but these three tweets and their comments can serve as a "best of".
https://twitter.com/BourbonGhost/status/378569185971806208
https://twitter.com/banditref/status/378594241171423232
https://twitter.com/AUChizad/status/378597378812420096
You know who BanditRef is don't you?
REALLY crappy idiotic blogger attached to the WoollyDumbturds and Burns sites.
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You know who BanditRef is don't you?
REALLY crappy idiotic blogger attached to the WoollyDumbturds and Burns sites.
Figures.
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I don't think it is her either, but I have enjoyed laughing my ass off regarding the last two pages of this thread.
I also learned Kaos and I finally agree on a woman.
So, what do you two have planned for the woman that you agreed on? How kinky will this get?
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Hi Gumps from Twitter, U Mad?
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:fu: :fu: :fu: :fu: :fu: :fu: :fu:
:aubie: :aubie: :aubie: :aubie: :aubie:
Yeah...they mad!
(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/6d6/6c1/b33/resized/cnnf-meme-generator-haha-damn-he-still-mad-d76410.jpg?1306449232.jpg)
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Another thing no one, except for me and a couple other people, is thinking about... When MSU's Fletcher Cox and Chad Bumphis were being recruited, uat was #2 behind MSU. In fact Cox & Bumphis made their official visit together to uat. One guess who their player recruiter was....Luther Davis. Cox stated that they hung out together with "some people."
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Another thing no one, except for me and a couple other people, is thinking about... When MSU's Fletcher Cox and Chad Bumphis were being recruited, uat was #2 behind MSU. In fact Cox & Bumphis made their official visit together to uat. One guess who their player recruiter was....Luther Davis. Cox stated that they hung out together with "some people."
Solid point and I agree. MSU and UT will play a role in how uat plays this. Hell most of their fans have pretty much accepted the fact that Fluker got paid. Now they are just trying to hook their asses to the "Its these damn dirty agents fault! The school has no way of knowing!" train. While that shit may be true for MSU and UT, it sure as hell don't apply to UAT. No what those motherfuckers have is the same thing they've always had. A BOOSTER PROBLEM.
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Simple fact is, a bama player got paid and it is a booster who paid him. Period.
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Simple fact is, a bama player got paid and it is a booster who paid him. Period.
Yup, same uat booster that paid Fletcher Cox and Chad Bumphis when they were on their official visit. Fletcher Cox's mother asked Coach sabbin if her son would be "taken care of"....sabbin answered all of Mrs. Cox's questions.
Oh yeah, they were also on campus with former UT WR Patrick Peterson ($5 says that he got a nice grab bag too).
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Looks like she was and her face hit the stove. (with it on)
Or maybe her daughter fucked up her face
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Game Day this morning at the Bama game. Of course no mention of the scandal.
Dozens of Manziel money signs. No sense of irony. No shame. No acknowledgement of reality. No humility.
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Word from the Twitters is Dee Liner will redshirt. #StruggleOverWit til next year or processing I guess.
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Game Day this morning at the Bama game. Of course no mention of the scandal.
Dozens of Manziel money signs. No sense of irony. No shame. No acknowledgement of reality. No humility.
Does that surprise you?
Nothing is going to be said man...it's all a fucking sham...
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Does that surprise you?
Nothing is going to be said man...it's all a fucking sham...
Totally agree with you, almost like bama is the Obama of college football. Do all kinds of shit, and the media looks the other way. Hmmm similarities in those two words bama/Obama, just one letter different, I don't think so, what do you think
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Game Day this morning at the Bama game. Of course no mention of the scandal.
Dozens of Manziel money signs. No sense of irony. No shame. No acknowledgement of reality. No humility.
WOTS, the NCAA has requested records of someone involved with uat...I'm guessing John Phillips.
So, the investigation has begun.
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Soulja Boy - "Speakers going Hammer bammer, bammer, bammer" (http://youtu.be/wbGJCT3R154?t=37s)
http://youtu.be/wbGJCT3R154
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I think the woman in the Tom pic has more face fat and a smaller nose. But even the nose wrinkles appear to be the same.
One word, "Botox".
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One word, "Botox".
One more word: fucking ugly
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One more word: fucking ugly
Do they bammers call her "miss terry", because that's the name on her palm reading ads?
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Game Day this morning at the Bama game. Of course no mention of the scandal.
Dozens of Manziel money signs. No sense of irony. No shame. No acknowledgement of reality. No humility.
There was a segment about it. Herbstreit said he thought it was an incredibly well researched and documented article. Then he said, "All I'm going to say is if I'm a bama fan, I'm queasy right now." The rest of the group starts talking about how college players get cheated out of the millions of dollars they make for the university...etc etc. The story never really comes back to the meat of the yahoo story....but at the end Herbie says it again. "If I am a bama fan, I'm queasy right now."
We'll see.
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Then he said, "All I'm going to say is if I'm a bama fan, I'm queasy right now."...but at the end Herbie says it again. "If I am a bama fan, I'm queasy right now."
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If I am a bama fan, I'm queasy right now.
And then someone after the show told Herbie -
"But you're not a Bama fan. Most people aren't. Most people would be queasy, but not Bama fans. They're never queasy. They're always winners. They're always innocent. Nothing bad has ever happened to their university or their program. Just ask them."
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Of course we're crazier than they are. We've got a Bottomfeeder.
Not funny haha, funny queer? :haha:
Kerry has the swollen face syndrome too.
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Do they bammers call her "miss terry", because that's the name on her palm reading ads?
This did not go unnoticed. Thank you for this husslin and your service.
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:rofl:
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@Josh_Moon: Also don't downplay potential NCAA issues w/Fluker. That gets serious, all of sudden Saban's looking at spending last few years w/bad teams
@TheProwler64: @Josh_Moon Lack of Institutional Control. Poor, lived in a car...drives around in a Chrysler 300 dubbed out & has THREE BANK ACCOUNTS @NCAA
@Josh_Moon: @TheProwler64 I said some of that in a column earlier this week. I think UA has some serious trouble here. Too many records.
@TheProwler64: @Josh_Moon ...can't remember if you mentioned this, but Cox & Bumphis visited UA together multiple times (player host was Luther Davis).
@Josh_Moon: @TheProwler64 Davis is connected to a BUNCH of players, including a few more from UA. That's part of reason I think it's a big deal.
That Tejahs job is looking more and more appealing to sabbin.
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Hey godfather, where the hell is crude pic you did ealier. I love the concept of the a-bomb as sabanz leaves for tx
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That Tejahs job is looking more and more appealing to sabbin.
No, retirement is.
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No, retirement is.
...or Dallas Cowboys.
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Hey godfather, where the hell is crude pic you did ealier. I love the concept of the a-bomb as sabanz leaves for tx
This one?
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg.html)
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This one?
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg.html)
I didn't do that, mine wouldn't be crude.
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This one?
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/saban_zpsf5f9f1ca.jpg.html)
Yea, yea, that's the ticket.
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Saw this on a tweet that @DyeHardAU sent to Jay Barker Evans...
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Johnny Boy is quite active on Twitter.
Just saw this exchange this morning.
There was some chippy exchange between a local radio host and his followers and Philips chimed in:
â€@JohnPhillips 2h
@DanHicken @BarkMarley Wow. Local sports guy loses his mind on a fan? Must be the "Jacksonville Sports Man."
Which led to this exhange with some random hero.
@JvilleJosh 28m
@JohnPhillips @DanHicken Hey John, shouldn't you be off somewhere bribing college football players?
@JohnPhillips
@JvilleJosh @DanHicken You want a libel suit, too? Real cute.
@JvilleJosh 4m
@JohnPhillips @DanHicken Should I tweet you an image of your cleared check or do you already have a copy?
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Hiding in plain sight
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Clay Travis is back on the Al Betar story today...
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Nice read. But, it just means the hammer is coming for Auburn.
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Here's the link http://outkickthecoverage.com/disassociated-alabama-booster-continues-to-own-bama-program.php (http://outkickthecoverage.com/disassociated-alabama-booster-continues-to-own-bama-program.php)
Pretty clear that the rules do not apply to the Bammers. None whatsoever.
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Fuck me running...dead hookers in the closets of the AD wouldn't even cause anyone to bat an eye at those fuckers.
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This is even more flagrant than just selling the stuff out of his trunk and in his store like he did. He's giving a big :fu: to the NCAA. It looks like UA doesn't care. Basically, they've found another form of an income stream for the star players and turn a blind eye to it. Thing is, the NCAA likely won't do diddly shoot. Same old story.
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This is even more flagrant than just selling the stuff out of his trunk and in his store like he did. He's giving a big :fu: to the NCAA. It looks like UA doesn't care. Basically, they've found another form of an income stream for the star players and turn a blind eye to it. Thing is, the NCAA likely won't do diddly shoot. Same old story.
Diddly shoot they won't do. This is another move along, nothing to see here deal. The Untouchables.
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Diddly shoot they won't do. This is another move along, nothing to see here deal. The Untouchables.
RWS says it is ok because it is Saban.