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Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?

Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« on: June 10, 2010, 08:40:34 AM »
Now that USC is finally going to get bent over and raped of their dignity national title, do you want it?

I don't.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 08:50:26 AM »
The NCAA can shove that crystal egg up their ass sideways.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 08:51:27 AM »
I guess this depends on WHAT Championship.

BCS?  No.   We didn't play in the game, and I don't want that stigma attached to it.

AP?  Absolutely.  I'd take that because of two things.
  1.  We DIDN'T lose.  To ANYONE.  We did it in what is (now anyway) regarded as the most powerful football conference.
  2.  With no BCS Champion that year, an AP Championship would be a title given to us like the old days before the BCS.

Just my opinion...
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 08:54:49 AM »
If an article linked in another thread is correct, and USC forfeits the wins, it would be awarded to Oklahoma. If the wins are vacated, then nobody gets it. I don't see any scenario in which AU gets it, because they didn't even play in the game.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 09:04:18 AM »
If an article linked in another thread is correct, and USC forfeits the wins, it would be awarded to Oklahoma. If the wins are vacated, then nobody gets it. I don't see any scenario in which AU gets it, because they didn't even play in the game.

I agree with you on the BCS title.  If they award it to anyone, it would be OU.  But the AP is a different story, if USC is no longer #1, that would bump us up from #2.  The year before, the AP had already voted against the BCS, I don't see why this would be any different (except I don't think they will revote).

And I agree with Chopper.  The BCS can go fuck itself, but I'd happily take the AP title.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 09:22:30 AM »
If we claimed it we would be just like the bammers, we will have one in 5 years anyways so it doesnt matter
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 09:22:56 AM »

I don't.

This...and...

The NCAA can shove that crystal egg up their ass sideways.

This, except I don't think the NCAA is involved with the BCS.  Isn't that why the NCAA claims that they don't award a DI football championship?
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 09:27:22 AM »
I'd take the AP in a minute.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 10:13:46 AM »
I guess this depends on WHAT Championship.

BCS?  No.   We didn't play in the game, and I don't want that stigma attached to it.

AP?  Absolutely.  I'd take that because of two things.
  1.  We DIDN'T lose.  To ANYONE.  We did it in what is (now anyway) regarded as the most powerful football conference.
  2.  With no BCS Champion that year, an AP Championship would be a title given to us like the old days before the BCS.

Just my opinion...

^^^This

Good as any laundromat championship. 
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 10:18:30 AM »
If an article linked in another thread is correct, and USC forfeits the wins, it would be awarded to Oklahoma. If the wins are vacated, then nobody gets it.
Oh not true.

I'm sure Bama would swoop in and claim #14.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 10:22:33 AM »
I'd take the AP in a minute.

This would be at least as legit as bammer's 1973 and 1978 MNCs where they claimed split polls and went head to head with the team that they split the polls with and lost.  Claimed the UPI NC in 1973 prior to the bowl, then lost to the AP Champion ND in the Sugar Bowl.  Claimed the 1978 Coaches Poll after losing early at home to USC, who eventually claimed the UPI NC.  
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 10:33:42 AM »
As it turns out, it was just a misunderstanding. NCAA levies some small penalties and USC turns the page.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 10:37:15 AM »
This...and...

This, except I don't think the NCAA is involved with the BCS.  Isn't that why the NCAA claims that they don't award a DI football championship?

You are correct but it was a colorful thought.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 11:29:27 AM »
Oh not true.

I'm sure Bama would swoop in and claim #14.
If the game is a forfeit, I guarantee you that Oklahoma would be awarded the win, thus would be the champion. That's how a forfeit works. The other team gets to claim a win. If it is vacated, it's like the game never happened......no team wins, no team loses.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 11:32:34 AM »
If the game is a forfeit, I guarantee you that Oklahoma would be awarded the win, thus would be the champion. That's how a forfeit works. The other team gets to claim a win. If it is vacated, it's like the game never happened......no team wins, no team loses.

6 of one, half dozen of the other.  Doesn't matter, we don't get to claim a BCS title, and I wouldn't want it.  IF the AP wanted to redo their poll retroactively, then let them.  Fact is, neither will happen.  USC will simply have an * next to their BCS title. 
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2010, 11:39:22 AM »
This would be at least as legit as bammer's 1973 and 1978 MNCs where they claimed split polls and went head to head with the team that they split the polls with and lost.  Claimed the UPI NC in 1973 prior to the bowl, then lost to the AP Champion ND in the Sugar Bowl.  Claimed the 1978 Coaches Poll after losing early at home to USC, who eventually claimed the UPI NC.  

I certainly don't want to resort to the sort of title-grubbing that defines our mouth-breathing neighbors to the west.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2010, 12:19:38 PM »
I certainly don't want to resort to the sort of title-grubbing that defines our mouth-breathing neighbors to the west.

Not suggesting we do.  I personally don't think AU folks would make any big deal about it if the AP were to "award" us the 2004 NC.  I wouldn't...I wouldn't by any NC gear, or go to any parade.  We won't be given the BCS Title, so the point is pretty much moot.  It's why I, in my smart assed way said "as legit as...".  It's legit shit like rubber doggy doo is legit shit.  But when the mullet headed morons want to come around running their cock holsters about such NCs as 1941, '73, '78, we can say we have one just like those too.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2010, 12:37:59 PM »
But when the mullet headed morons want to come around running their cock holsters about such NCs as 1941, '73, '78, we can say we have one just like those too.

To each his own, but I'd rather just tell 'em that theirs are bullshit.
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Re: Would You Accept the 2004 National Championship?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2010, 01:15:56 PM »
To each his own, but I'd rather just tell 'em that theirs are bullshit.

My way was just a more verbose way of saying that.  
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