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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #560 on: March 05, 2016, 10:59:12 AM »
KKK is irrelevant to me. What is relevant? Trump's stance on the issues, his ability to undo the damage and fix a broken government that hasn't passed legislation to benefit the people is quite some time. The K-STREET-owned GOP hasn't been doing what we elected them to do. It's pretty scary to hear that secret societies control our government and electoral process. I've been scorned for suggesting that, while hoping I was wrong.

Indulge yourselves:  https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform



And Roy Moore has been bought too.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #561 on: March 05, 2016, 11:35:42 AM »
Look dude, the KKK has softened it's stance regarding the gays. Why so much hostility?

You should actually go to a cross burning with CCTAU before being so judgmental about a group you know so little about.
Today's klan is a softer gentler klan. They are even involved in environmental activities within the community.

http://newsone.com/3256894/ku-klux-klans-aclu-adopt-a-highway/
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #562 on: March 05, 2016, 11:43:10 AM »
Today's klan is a softer gentler klan. They are even involved in environmental activities within the community.

http://newsone.com/3256894/ku-klux-klans-aclu-adopt-a-highway/
That's right. And they's a comin' out uh they hidey holes to vote fer Trump.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #563 on: March 05, 2016, 12:05:17 PM »
That's right. And they's a comin' out uh they hidey holes to vote fer Trump.
Hell, even their crosses are made from recycled and ozone friendly material.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #564 on: March 05, 2016, 12:28:54 PM »
Nope. This statement is about as wrong as it gets on the subject. That's what people like you, the media, and the GOP establishment don't get and I don't see how...
Serious question, are you just ignoring the facts that "the media" and I are telling you or do you really think that gigantic list I posted a few posts back even remotely resembles conservatism? I really don't understand how this is a difficult concept. First of all, you can't nail him down to a stance, as he literally flip flopped on his signature stance TWICE in a matter of hours. But you choose to only see the "really real" positions his handlers tell him he believes, which he's literally too stupid to stay consistent on. You can't all be stupid enough not to clearly see that, so cognitive dissonance is the only explanation.

Explain to me how any of those positions I listed are conservative. I'll wait.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #565 on: March 05, 2016, 07:37:22 PM »
Serious question, are you just ignoring the facts that "the media" and I are telling you or do you really think that gigantic list I posted a few posts back even remotely resembles conservatism? I really don't understand how this is a difficult concept. First of all, you can't nail him down to a stance, as he literally flip flopped on his signature stance TWICE in a matter of hours. But you choose to only see the "really real" positions his handlers tell him he believes, which he's literally too stupid to stay consistent on. You can't all be stupid enough not to clearly see that, so cognitive dissonance is the only explanation.

Explain to me how any of those positions I listed are conservative. I'll wait.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #566 on: March 05, 2016, 10:22:26 PM »
Damn Chizzy.  Trump wins Louisiana.  Guess they're not listening to you there either.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #567 on: March 05, 2016, 10:33:22 PM »
Damn Chizzy.  Trump wins Louisiana.  Guess they're not listening to you there either.

At least Kansas and Maine didn't go full retard.
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« Reply #568 on: March 05, 2016, 10:52:47 PM »
I don't want to see Billary in the White House, but at least Bernie Sanders is all but dead. He's a bigger idiot than Trump with his bullshit economic plan.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #569 on: March 06, 2016, 06:13:04 AM »
I'm not saying he hasn't changed positions on various things.  I change my mind every day.  I'm subject to learning new information that alters what I may have previously thought. 

I don't WANT somebody who still has the same ideas he had 40 years ago. Or 20. Or 10.
One small difference...you aren't running to be the President of the United States, changing your mind/flip flopping on issues that affect the entire Country, that combed over piece of garbage is.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #570 on: March 06, 2016, 08:45:26 AM »
Watched results on Cavutto last night. Noted conservative Ben Stein (schooled at Yale w Hillary) was a guest and flipflops from his earlier statement to vote for (his friend) Clinton over Trump.

His answer: He said he can't vote for anyone that isn't pro-life.
Wow that Trump sure does cause some soul searching.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #571 on: March 06, 2016, 09:34:52 AM »
From Louis CK's weekly email. Just about exactly what I've been trying to say in this thread.

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P.S. Please stop it with voting for Trump. It was funny for a little while. But the guy is Hitler. And by that I mean that we are being Germany in the 30s. Do you think they saw the shit coming? Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a weird comb over who would say anything at all.

And I’m not advocating for Hillary or Bernie. I like them both but frankly I wish the next president was a conservative only because we had Obama for eight years and we need balance. And not because I particularly enjoy the conservative agenda. I just think the government should reflect the people. And we are about 40 percent conservative and 40 percent liberal. When I was growing up and when I was a younger man, liberals and conservatives were friends with differences. They weren’t enemies. And it always made sense that everyone gets a president they like for a while and then hates the president for a while. But it only works if the conservatives put up a good candidate. A good smart conservative to face the liberal candidate so they can have a good argument and the country can decide which way to go this time.

Trump is not that. He’s an insane bigot. He is dangerous.

He already said he would expand libel laws to sue anyone who “writes a negative hit piece” about him. He says “I would open up the libel laws so we can sue them and win lots of money. Not like now. These guys are totally protected.” He said that. He has promised to decimate the first amendment. (If you think he’s going to keep the second amendment intact you’re delusional.) And he said that Paul Ryan, speaker of the house will “pay” for criticizing him. So I’m saying this now because if he gets in there we won’t be able to criticize him anymore.
Please pick someone else. Like John Kasich. I mean that guy seems okay. I don’t like any of them myself but if you’re that kind of voter please go for a guy like that. It feels like between him and either democrat we’d have a decent choice. It feels like a healthier choice. We shouldn’t have to vote for someone because they’re not a shocking mommy part billionaire liar.

We should choose based on what direction the country should go.

I get that all these people sound like bullshit soft criminal opportunists. The whole game feels rigged and it’s not going anywhere but down anymore. I feel that way sometimes.

And that voting for Trump is a way of saying “fuck it. Fuck them all”. I really get it. It’s a version of national Suicide. Or it’s like a big hit off of a crack pipe. Somehow we can’t help it. Or we know that if we vote for Trump our phones will be a reliable source of dopamine for the next four years. I mean I can’t wait to read about Trump every day. It’s a rush. But you have to know this is not healthy.

If you are a true conservative. Don’t vote for Trump. He is not one of you. He is one of him. Everything you have heard him say that you liked, if you look hard enough you will see that he one day said the exact opposite. He is playing you.

In fact, if you do vote for Trump, at least look at him very carefully first. You owe that to the rest of us. Know and understand who he is. Spend one hour on google and just read it all. I don’t mean listen to me or listen to liberals who put him down. Listen to your own people. Listen to John Mccain. Go look at what he just said about Trump. “At a time when our world has never been more complex or more in danger… I want Republican voters to pay close attention to what our party’s most respected and knowledgeable leaders and national security experts are saying about Mr. Trump, and to think long and hard about who they want to be our next Commander-in-Chief and leader of the free world.”

When Trump was told what he said, Trump said “Oh, he did? Well, that’s not nice,” he told CBS News’ chief White House correspondent Major Garrett. “He has to be very careful.”
When pressed on why, Trump tacked on: “He’ll find out.”

(I cut and pasted that from CBS news)

Do you really want a guy to be president who threatens John McCain? Because John McCain cautiously and intelligently asked for people to be thoughtful before voting for him? He didn’t even insult Trump. He just asked you to take a good look. And Trump told him to look out.

Remember that Trump entered this race by saying that McCain is not a war hero. A guy who was shot down, body broken and kept in a POW camp for years. Trump said “I prefer the guys who don’t get caught.” Why did he say that? Not because he meant it or because it was important to say. He said it because he’s a bully and every bully knows that when you enter a new school yard, you go to the toughest most respected guy on the yard and you punch him in the nose. If you are still standing after, you’re the new boss. If Trump is president, he’s not going to change. He’s not going to do anything for you. He’s going to do everything for himself and leave you in the dust.

So please listen to fellow conservatives. But more importantly, listen to Trump. Listen to all of it. Everything he says. If you liked when he said that “torture works” then go look at where he took it back the next day. He’s a fucking liar.

A vote for Trump is so clearly a gut-vote, and again I get it. But add a little brain to it and look the guy up. Because if you vote for him because of how you feel right now, the minute he’s president, you’re going to regret it. You’re going to regret it even more when he gives the job to his son. Because American democracy is broken enough that a guy like that could really fuck things up. That’s how Hitler got there. He was voted into power by a fatigued nation and when he got inside, he did all his Hitler things and no one could stop him.

Again, I’m not saying vote democrat or vote for anyone else. If Hilary ends up president it should be because she faced the best person you have and you and I both chose her or him or whoever. Trump is not your best. He’s the worst of all of us. He’s a symptom to a problem that is very real. But don’t vote for your own cancer. You’re better than that.

That’s just my view. At least right now. I know I’m not qualified or particularly educated and I’m not right instead of you. I’m an idiot and I’m sure a bunch of you are very annoyed by this. Fucking celebrity with an opinion. I swear this isn’t really a political opinion. You don’t want to know my political opinions. (And I know that I’m only bringing myself trouble with this shit.) Trump has nothing to do with politics or ideology. He has to do with himself. And really I don’t mean to insult anyone. Except Trump. I mean to insult him very much. And really I’m not saying he’s evil or a monster. In fact I don’t think Hitler was. The problem with saying that guys like that are monsters is that we don’t see them coming when they turn out to be human, which they all are. Everyone is. Trump is a messed up guy with a hole in his heart that he tries to fill with money and attention. He can never ever have enough of either and he’ll never stop trying. He’s sick. Which makes him really really interesting. And he pulls you towards him which somehow feels good or fascinatingly bad. He’s not a monster. He’s a sad man. But all this makes him horribly dangerous if he becomes president. Give him another TV show. Let him pay to put his name on buildings. But please stop voting for him. And please watch Horace and Pete.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #572 on: March 06, 2016, 10:12:57 AM »
Serious question, are you just ignoring the facts that "the media" and I are telling you or do you really think that gigantic list I posted a few posts back even remotely resembles conservatism? I really don't understand how this is a difficult concept. First of all, you can't nail him down to a stance, as he literally flip flopped on his signature stance TWICE in a matter of hours. But you choose to only see the "really real" positions his handlers tell him he believes, which he's literally too stupid to stay consistent on. You can't all be stupid enough not to clearly see that, so cognitive dissonance is the only explanation.

Explain to me how any of those positions I listed are conservative. I'll wait.

Serious answer: You are right. I have never said you were wrong when it comes to the issues. What I said was that you don't get why people are voting for him. It has NOTHING to do with him being a conservative or a moderate or whatever.

People are voting for Trump because he is not a republican OR democrat. He is Trump. He doesn't give a shit about what people think.

Right now, BOTH parties are weak and there is very little difference between either party. Washington changes whoever gets elected. Until Washington is completed changed, it will continue to be like that. Trump is a vote for that change. THAT is why people are voting for him. Not because of what you keep arguing about...

For the record, I voted for Kasich because I like his policies and think he can actually go in and work with both sides.

But I will vote R in November. There is NO WAY I would vote for Hillary.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #573 on: March 06, 2016, 11:08:05 AM »
You don't see a contradiction between this:

It has NOTHING to do with him being a conservative or a moderate or whatever.

People are voting for Trump because he is not a republican OR democrat. He is Trump. He doesn't give a shit about what people think.

And this?

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But I will vote R in November. There is NO WAY I would vote for Hillary.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #574 on: March 06, 2016, 11:20:16 AM »
I hate the president Gawker is setting here. I think Gawker is journalistic scum.

That said, they have apparently exposed that Trump is in the pocket of libruhl lamestream media, i.e. MSNBC.

http://gaw.kr/5lUsvzv
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #575 on: March 06, 2016, 01:25:20 PM »
Somebody needs to let me know what Eddie Murphy thinks.  We got the esteemed economist Louis CK on record.  We need to know where Murphy and Jim Belushi stand.  And what about Melissa McCarthy? 

Don't hand me shit from CK.  I don't care what any comedian from Jim Carey to Colbert to that British snob to the black news guy on SNL has to say. 

The more these people talk the more I'm inclined to vote for Trump.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #576 on: March 06, 2016, 02:37:26 PM »
You don't see a contradiction between this:

And this?

He is running on the republican ticket though. So there are three options: 1. Vote republican. B. Vote democrat. Or 3. Waste a vote voting someone not in these two parties because they don't have a chance.

There is no way in hell I would vote for Hillary or Bernie. And I don't want to waste a vote because that would allow them to possibly get elected. So I am stuck voting republican.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #577 on: March 06, 2016, 02:41:59 PM »
He is running on the republican ticket though. So there are three options: 1. Vote republican. B. Vote democrat. Or 3. Waste a vote voting someone not in these two parties because they don't have a chance.

There is no way in hell I would vote for Hillary or Bernie. And I don't want to waste a vote because that would allow them to possibly get elected. So I am stuck voting republican.
And again, I say just because he had an R after his name (to the dismay of the actual Republican Party) doesn't mean he's actually an R or conservative at all…Hillary is more of a conservative and more of a neocon than Trump is. And less of an idiot.
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #578 on: March 06, 2016, 03:11:41 PM »
And again, I say just because he had an R after his name (to the dismay of the actual Republican Party) doesn't mean he's actually an R or conservative at all…Hillary is more of a conservative and more of a neocon than Trump is. And less of an idiot.

Strongly disagree.  Hillary is a bigger idiot.  And a bigger danger. 
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Re: Here's the Republican front runner...
« Reply #579 on: March 06, 2016, 04:18:49 PM »
Strongly disagree.  Hillary is a bigger idiot.  And a bigger danger.

Seconded.
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