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Thoughts - Week Wutever

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« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2015, 02:37:17 PM »
That's ok, it's not necessary that you blame anyone or buy in to anything I write.  It's an opinion.  Nothing more.
I'm actually not disagreeing with you, I do think it is more than JJ.  I am just blaming the offense more.

Defense does definitely need to improve. I guess I am just giving them more leeway for injuries, a new coach and slew of true freshman.

and I am frustrated as fuck with these coaches unwilling to fucking make a change.  Which I totally agree might be an even bigger failure, but fuck try something else!
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« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2015, 08:02:29 PM »
Did Jason Campbell receive this same treatment for underachieving in 2003? If I remember correctly he did. We all remember what happened in 2004. Does JJ suck as bad as Jason did back then? Or worse? I'm patient enough to tolerate this dumpster fire in exchange for an undefeated season in 2016 or 2017. I do believe AU went 8 - 5 in '03. Of course then, AU had a decent defense. We look more like 2011 and 2014. I hate to see another buy. I am giving them another two years after this season's FAIL.

http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Campbell-relishes-his-journey-ponders-his-future-36889477

Then there is this:

http://auburn.247sports.com/Bolt/Another-crash-coming-for-Auburn-39609962
« Last Edit: September 21, 2015, 08:24:33 PM by bottomfeeder »
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« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2015, 08:19:31 PM »
Good point, BF.

Here are Campbell's numbers from 2003 in the first three games:

44/78 for 531 yards. 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions.

Here are Jeremy Johnson's:

43/72 for 473 yards. 5 touchdowns. 6 interceptions.

A few notes:

1. For one, this goes along with what I've been preaching the last two days. We had a dysfunctional offense in 2003. But because our program was built to produce hard hitting, fundamentally sound defenses, we were able to get our offense straight and go on to upset two top ten teams (@Arkansas and Tennessee) and nearly beat SECW Co-Champ (they have a banner, you know) Ole Miss.

The defense through the first three games of 2003 (total yards given up each game):

315
251
221

The defense through the first three games of 2015:

405
438
485

In fact, the 2003 defense never once gave up over 400 yards. Perhaps as Wes stated, offenses are just that much more dynamic and hard to defend. Still though, the defense was stout in 2003 and allowed Campbell to have time to progress until he was good enough to be the QB of 2004 and go on to have a long, successful NFL career.

2. Did Campbell ever throw the ball backwards? No? Case closed.

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« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2015, 09:46:02 PM »
Did Jason Campbell receive this same treatment for underachieving in 2003?

I personally blamed Tuberville and Nallsminger for the disaster of 2003. 
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« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2015, 10:05:13 PM »
Good point, BF.

Here are Campbell's numbers from 2003 in the first three games:

44/78 for 531 yards. 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions.

Here are Jeremy Johnson's:

43/72 for 473 yards. 5 touchdowns. 6 interceptions.

A few notes:

1. For one, this goes along with what I've been preaching the last two days. We had a dysfunctional offense in 2003. But because our program was built to produce hard hitting, fundamentally sound defenses, we were able to get our offense straight and go on to upset two top ten teams (@Arkansas and Tennessee) and nearly beat SECW Co-Champ (they have a banner, you know) Ole Miss.

The defense through the first three games of 2003 (total yards given up each game):

315
251
221

The defense through the first three games of 2015:

405
438
485

In fact, the 2003 defense never once gave up over 400 yards. Perhaps as Wes stated, offenses are just that much more dynamic and hard to defend. Still though, the defense was stout in 2003 and allowed Campbell to have time to progress until he was good enough to be the QB of 2004 and go on to have a long, successful NFL career.

2. Did Campbell ever throw the ball backwards? No? Case closed.
The big difference between Campbell and JJ though is those interceptions. Again JJ should have had 10 interceptions. Jason was a decent game manager even through 2003 and yes we had Karlos Dansby and DT.
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« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2015, 10:15:37 PM »
The big difference between Campbell and JJ though is those interceptions. Again JJ should have had 10 interceptions. Jason was a decent game manager even through 2003 and yes we had Karlos Dansby and DT.

Campbell had a different coordinator every year.  JJ's on his 3rd year in this system.  He looks lost. 

Nallsminger was an abortion of epic proportions.  Campbell never had a chance in that system. 

 
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« Reply #66 on: September 21, 2015, 10:27:15 PM »
Campbell had a different coordinator every year.  JJ's on his 3rd year in this system.  He looks lost. 

Nallsminger was an abortion of epic proportions.  Campbell never had a chance in that system. 

 

Yep. There were all kinds of excuses for Campbell.

There are none for JJ looking this lost.
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« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2015, 11:07:27 PM »
Campbell had a different coordinator every year.  JJ's on his 3rd year in this system.  He looks lost. 

Nallsminger was an abortion of epic proportions.  Campbell never had a chance in that system. 

 

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« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2015, 10:16:43 AM »
I ran into wally world to grab some stuff for the grand baby and some guy going in looks at me and says "Y'all had a rough day Saturday, huh?"  I just smiled and said yeah. Then he said, "I think its your quarterback". (He was sincere)

I stopped in my tracks, cocked my head toward him and said "Ya think". We both laughed and agreed that when a RANDOM FAN CAN SEE THAT BUT THE COACHES CANNOT, WELL, WE ARE IN FOR A WORLD OF SHIT.

<should this be in the cool story bro thread>
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« Reply #69 on: September 22, 2015, 10:19:30 AM »
I ran into wally world to grab some stuff for the grand baby and some guy going in looks at me and says "Y'all had a rough day Saturday, huh?"  I just smiled and said yeah. Then he said, "I think its your quarterback". (He was sincere)

I stopped in my tracks, cocked my head toward him and said "Ya think". We both laughed and agreed that when a RANDOM FAN CAN SEE THAT BUT THE COACHES CANNOT, WELL, WE ARE IN FOR A WORLD OF SHIT.

<should this be in the cool story bro thread>

Not sure that qualifies for the CSB thread. I'll get a ruling and get back to you.
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« Reply #70 on: September 22, 2015, 10:22:49 AM »
Not sure that qualifies for the CSB thread. I'll get a ruling and get back to you.
Well, considering we don't have a "that story sucks, bro" thread, I assume so.
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« Reply #71 on: September 22, 2015, 10:24:31 AM »
Well, considering we don't have a "that story sucks, bro" thread, I assume so.

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« Reply #72 on: September 22, 2015, 10:25:27 AM »
You can unscrew a lightbulb.

You cannot unscrew a pregnant woman.

Guess which one we are?
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« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2015, 10:31:43 AM »
You cannot unscrew a pregnant woman.

Guess which one we are?

Simp knows the answer.
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« Reply #74 on: September 22, 2015, 10:32:27 AM »
You can unscrew a lightbulb.

You cannot unscrew a pregnant woman.

Guess which one we are?
I was told there would be no math.
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« Reply #75 on: September 22, 2015, 10:57:18 AM »
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« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2015, 11:14:34 AM »
Where JJ is concerned, I'm reminded of one of my all-time fav commercials...


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« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2015, 11:47:06 AM »

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« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2015, 11:52:39 AM »
I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of my teammates. Leon can't do it all.
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« Reply #79 on: September 22, 2015, 12:05:50 PM »
I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of my teammates. Leon can't do it all.

Soooo..your 4 fumbles had nothing to with it?
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