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And the defense....
« on: August 31, 2013, 07:14:52 PM »
Is still turrible.  Yes I know one drive but :facepalm:
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 07:17:27 PM »
Well, qb has a cannon.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 08:08:08 PM »
Jake Holland has no business being on the field.  I don't care how stupid Frost is.  No business.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 08:14:53 PM »
And Frost sucks also, we screwed
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 08:35:14 PM »
At least their defense is as shootty as ours when it comes to tackling people in open field footraces.

Also, Marshall is 2-8 for 20 yards and 3 rushes for 5 yards. Hey, at least the other guys are getting it done. And thank Gus for that 2 point conversion...might be the difference in this one.  :aubie:

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 08:53:37 PM »
At least their defense is as shootty as ours when it comes to tackling people in open field footraces.

Also, Marshall is 2-8 for 20 yards and 3 rushes for 5 yards. Hey, at least the other guys are getting it done. And thank Gus for that 2 point conversion...might be the difference in this one.  :aubie:

In my opinion time to put JJ in.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 08:57:08 PM »
At least their defense is as shootty as ours when it comes to tackling people in open field footraces.

Also, Marshall is 2-8 for 20 yards and 3 rushes for 5 yards. Hey, at least the other guys are getting it done. And thank Gus for that 2 point conversion...might be the difference in this one.  :aubie:

Wow, those are some shitty stats
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 09:09:27 PM »
Wow, those are some shootty stats

Good thing is our RBs can beat their defense in the foot races. Marshall wasn't getting a lot of help - dudes were dropping balls like Skrillex does the bass. Hoping for an improved second half.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 09:27:49 PM »
Whitehead is still Neiko lite and Mincy can't cover shit. NM looks like a quicker KF. RBs are freaking beasts!
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 09:35:51 PM »
I think the red shirt will come off of JJ soon.  Marshall is terrible.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2013, 09:38:47 PM »
I think the red shirt will come off of JJ soon.  Marshall is terrible.

That doesn't give me a real good feeling about the rest of the season.  Oh yeah, all I am going by is what y'all are posting because I can't pick the game up down here damn it.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2013, 09:55:44 PM »
We have very athletic QBs!
Therezie must have pics on his ref!
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2013, 10:28:59 PM »
Our DBs have more INTs tonight (3) than all of last year (2). So, that's improved.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2013, 10:35:44 PM »
Our DBs have more INTs tonight (3) than all of last year (2). So, that's improved.

Well. Therezie can catch. But coverage is BAD! At least if a QB is bad, we might catch a few.

If we shift and the run backside for another 15 yards one more time, I might hang myself.

Against to lowest of SEC teams, we will get punished.


Adams is a MAN!

If we had a Chris Todd type QB, we run away with this game. I pray NM leans to lay a little touch on the ball.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2013, 11:25:10 PM »
Defense, specifically the secondary, was surprisingly efficient.

The one unit that surpassed my expectations, personally.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2013, 11:32:05 PM »
That doesn't give me a real good feeling about the rest of the season.  Oh yeah, all I am going by is what y'all are posting because I can't pick the game up down here damn it.

You didn't miss anything.  Defense not very good.  I personally don't understand how Marshall won the  job.  From what I heard and saw from Johnson past year it's a no brained.  I know it was high school but look at the stats and from what I saw on the field tonight a true freshmen can vompete with what I saw tonight.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2013, 12:40:18 AM »
To be fair to Marshall, two dropped passes and a stumble in the first quarter should have made him 13 of 19 with TD and minimum of 20 more yards for the night.  Not great but should be plenty when your team gains 297 on the ground. 

We have work to do for sure but saw some positives we can work on.  Not ready to give up on them yet.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2013, 01:15:00 AM »
I was impressed with the way the team responded in the 2nd half, last year's team would've gotten stomped in the second half with the way the Leach Air Raid works the quick passing game.

Holland needs to put on a Auburn t-shirt and sit in the stands...right next to Chad Slade. So fucking sick of watching them. Slade does nothing but stalemate the DL, that's it...no movement. He doesn't move his feet when he makes contact and he ducks his head at times, which allows the defender to swim right past him, stuffing the RB in the backfield.
Holland continues to guess where the ball's going, and he's wrong nearly everytime...and when he's wrong, he gets swamped by the OL and Gabe Wright getting doubled into him. When the defense is running a Dime or Nickel Package (which is what we run), you can't have your second line of defense getting clobbered or being no where near the ball carrier.
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2013, 08:49:15 AM »
Maybe I just don't know anything about football any more.  Maybe Johnson's defensive package is different, but when a team runs a downhill sweep, you shouldn't see #5 drifting into the edge of the frame 15 yards downfield. 

Don't linebackers scrape the line and fill the gap to stop the run or force it outside wider so the safety has time to come up and help? 

Jake Holland is quite possibly the worst defensive player I've ever seen.  I have no idea why Washington State threw 65 passes.  I don't know why they threw one. All they had to do was run right up the middle of the field for 15 yards a clip.  Holland either got dump trucked, or he blundered forward without reading the play and got tangled up away from the ball or he stood there running in place until somebody (or a whiff of air) got his shoulders turned parallel to the sidelines and he was out of the play. 

Care to guess how many tackles and assists Holland racked up last night? 

Z.E.R.O.   Not a single one. 

6     Jonathon Mincy      8     .     8     .      .     .      .      3     .     .      .
24    Ryan Smith      6     1     7     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
27    Robenson Therezie     6     1     7     .      .     .      2-24     1     .     .      .
9     Jermaine Whitehead     4     1     5     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
15    Joshua Holsey      4     1     5     .      .     .      1--2     1     .     .      1
17    Kris Frost      3     1     4     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
11    Chris Davis      1     2     3     1.0/3      .     .      .      3     .     .      .
1E    Montravius Adams     2     .     2     1.0/2      .     .      .      .     .     1.0/2      1
13    Craig Sanders      2     .     2     2.0/5      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
31    Trent Fisher      2     .     2     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
10    LaDarius Owens      1     1     2     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
19    Ryan White      1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
8     Cassanova McKinzy     1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
8A    Tony Stevens      1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
90    Gabe Wright      1     .     1     1.0/3      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
94    Nosa Eguae      1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
5B    Ben Bradley      1     .     1     1.0/8      .     .      .      .     .     1.0/8      .
98    Angelo Blackson     1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
55    Carl Lawson      .     .     .     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
92    Kenneth Carter      .     .     .     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
20    Corey Grant      .     .     .     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1


Seriously. 

Not one single tackle.  Not one single assist. 

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Re: And the defense....
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2013, 09:22:34 AM »
Maybe I just don't know anything about football any more.  Maybe Johnson's defensive package is different, but when a team runs a downhill sweep, you shouldn't see #5 drifting into the edge of the frame 15 yards downfield. 

Don't linebackers scrape the line and fill the gap to stop the run or force it outside wider so the safety has time to come up and help? 

Jake Holland is quite possibly the worst defensive player I've ever seen.  I have no idea why Washington State threw 65 passes.  I don't know why they threw one. All they had to do was run right up the middle of the field for 15 yards a clip.  Holland either got dump trucked, or he blundered forward without reading the play and got tangled up away from the ball or he stood there running in place until somebody (or a whiff of air) got his shoulders turned parallel to the sidelines and he was out of the play. 

Care to guess how many tackles and assists Holland racked up last night? 

Z.E.R.O.   Not a single one. 

6     Jonathon Mincy      8     .     8     .      .     .      .      3     .     .      .
24    Ryan Smith      6     1     7     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
27    Robenson Therezie     6     1     7     .      .     .      2-24     1     .     .      .
9     Jermaine Whitehead     4     1     5     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
15    Joshua Holsey      4     1     5     .      .     .      1--2     1     .     .      1
17    Kris Frost      3     1     4     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
11    Chris Davis      1     2     3     1.0/3      .     .      .      3     .     .      .
1E    Montravius Adams     2     .     2     1.0/2      .     .      .      .     .     1.0/2      1
13    Craig Sanders      2     .     2     2.0/5      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
31    Trent Fisher      2     .     2     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
10    LaDarius Owens      1     1     2     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
19    Ryan White      1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
8     Cassanova McKinzy     1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
8A    Tony Stevens      1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
90    Gabe Wright      1     .     1     1.0/3      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
94    Nosa Eguae      1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
5B    Ben Bradley      1     .     1     1.0/8      .     .      .      .     .     1.0/8      .
98    Angelo Blackson     1     .     1     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      .
55    Carl Lawson      .     .     .     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
92    Kenneth Carter      .     .     .     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1
20    Corey Grant      .     .     .     .      .     .      .      .     .     .      1


Seriously. 

Not one single tackle.  Not one single assist. 

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I think Ellis saw it too. I didn't see Holland out there much in the second half. THS is right. Our LB situation as a whole is just sad. All of them, not just jake.
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