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Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January

Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« on: December 19, 2012, 03:05:08 PM »
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Spurred by a horrific elementary school shooting, President Barack Obama tasked his administration Wednesday with creating concrete proposals to reduce gun violence that has plagued the country.

"This time, the words need to lead to action," said Obama, who set a January deadline for the recommendations. He vowed to push for their implementation without delay.

The president, who exerted little political capital on gun control during his first term, also pressed Congress to reinstate an assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. He also called for stricter background checks for people who seek to purchase weapons and limited high capacity clips.

"The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing," Obama said. "The fact that we can't prevent every act of violence doesn't mean we can't steadily reduce the violence."

Obama's announcement Wednesday underscores the urgency the White House sees in formulating a response to the shooting in Newtown, Conn. Twenty children and six adults were killed when a man carrying a military-style rifle stormed an elementary school.

The massacre has prompted several congressional gun rights supporters to consider new legislation to control firearms, and there is some concern that their willingness to engage could fade as the shock and sorrow over the Newtown shooting eases.


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-set-january-deadline-gun-proposals-173610698--finance.html
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 03:21:32 PM »
How about we quit coddling kids, feeding them with head meds, showing them consequences to bad actions (punishment) and desensitizing them to life itself. This is the big picture issue. They are fucked up in the head and it's a multifaceted problem. A gun is merely a mechanism. Fuck this noise. BHO and his anti gun minions have been waiting to enact this kind of legislation for a while now.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 03:22:50 PM »
How about we quit coddling kids, feeding them with head meds, showing them consequences to bad actions (punishment) and desensitizing them to life itself. This is the big picture issue. They are fucked up in the head and it's a multifaceted problem. A gun is merely a mechanism. Fuck this noise. BHO and his anti gun minions have been waiting to enact this kind of legislation for a while now.

How about he demand a budget proposal by January of 2009?  2010?  2011?  2012?  2013? 
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 03:26:56 PM »
Knee...Jerk

We don't know if what gets proposed will do anything at all...but we have to do something.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 03:29:25 PM »
How about he demand a budget proposal by January of 2009?  2010?  2011?  2012?  2013?

Agree. What happened last friday is not a responsibility of the fed gov. The budgets you mentioned are however. Any red herring will do.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 03:30:15 PM »
Knee...Jerk

We don't know if what gets proposed will do anything at all...but we have to do something.

Ask the folks in the uk how gun control worked after dunblane? Or how about Chicago or DC?
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 03:55:21 PM »
Overreaction and political grandstanding is not a true sign of leadership. Calling for trained and qualified teachers to have access to firearms in schools seems legit to me. It will never happen from the gov't level. They will only want to take more guns away. Sadly, they will use these kids to promote their agenda and if it happens, it will accomplish very little toward thwarting another massacre.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 04:01:05 PM »
Something does need to be done, and the President has asked for recommendations from our legislators.  I think it's a little too soon to be complaining about how they're going to take our weapons away when nothing has even been suggested, much less decided.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 04:05:32 PM »
Wait for it......
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......Fuck you Obama.

They can't get what they don't know about. Fuck them.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 04:23:53 PM »
Dipshit has put a Jan deadline for all kinds of shit hasn't he.  Balance the budget, gun control all while HE, our fearless leader "His Assholiness" is playing fucking golf in fucking Hawaii.  Fuck him.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 04:29:28 PM »
Dipshit has put a Jan deadline for all kinds of shit hasn't he.  Balance the budget, gun control all while HE, our fearless leader "His Assholiness" is playing fucking golf in fucking Hawaii.  Fuck him.

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You are sooooo in trouble, mister
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2012, 04:45:26 PM »
Tho it may sound simple I think a lot of this crap can be nipped in the bud with some early years old fashioned ass whippings. Time out? what the fuck is that? To me that was sitting in my room waiting for dad to get there with a belt!
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2012, 05:32:35 PM »
www.attackwatch.com

You are sooooo in trouble, mister
I think you may be right.  Black helicopter circling overhead and my telephones been tapped.  Hope THE ONES brown shirt don't get bored waiting to hear or see anything.
Just a minute, somebody's banging on my door, gotta get my shotgun
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2012, 06:11:45 PM »
I think you may be right.  Black helicopter circling overhead and my telephones been tapped.  Hope THE ONES brown shirt don't get bored waiting to hear or see anything.
Just a minute, somebody's banging on my door, gotta get my shotgun
Those cocksuckers show up here and open the door themselves, they get 200,000 volts dropped on their ass. Anyone who comes through my door unescorted or uninvited, gets the same treatment. They're called booby traps, I have 'em set the fuck up along with warnings: WARNING: High Voltage KEEP OUT! Why use a gun when I can use electricity for free to protect my family? There's really not much load to it. Anyone, anyone, anyone?
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2012, 06:58:33 PM »
Something does need to be done, and the President has asked for recommendations from our legislators.  I think it's a little too soon to be complaining about how they're going to take our weapons away when nothing has even been suggested, much less decided.

What needs to be done? 
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2012, 07:47:28 PM »
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RvnrOuoMNF8#t=1m50s
I guess those brown shirted mofo's ain't gonna get me now, Nibiru will take their punk asses out.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2012, 08:13:29 PM »
I guess those brown shirted mofo's ain't gonna get me now, Nibiru will take their punk asses out.
Yea, it won't matter a year from now because we are all going to be history anyway. lol. You heard it hear first on Roller Derby. What I don't understand is why aren't more women aware of the catastrophic potential of this body. I would expect them to be more subdued and easier to undress.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2012, 09:36:55 PM »
What needs to be done?

A lot, in my opinion.  You've got lots of potential "causes" for gun violence.  Ultimately it's that person's individual choice to act with violence, but people's choices can be affected by lots of things.

For one, stupidity.  Not sure what can be done there, other than to arrest stupid people when they make stupidly illegal decisions, and hope it gets through to them.  In that regard, there's a lot of reform that needs to be done to certain prison and jail systems, but that's a whole different topic.  But in regard to trying to prevent stupid people from being stupid?  Not gonna happen.

Mental diseases, issues, conditions, problems, whatever you want to call them...they should be addressed.  I think we need to be careful how we identify mental diseases, because too many people are being medicated for no good reason.  Example:  hyper active children being given Ritalin.  While there are children who may medically need it, there is rampant neglect or outright abuse in the system that's tolerated.  But overall, we need a better mental healthcare system than what we have.  Considering our financial constraints, I don't know how much can be done by the government.

DHR.  Make it a better system so as to identify and properly deal with problem homes.  If you're going to have an agency that is supposed to protect children and prevent them from growing up in abusive or harmful environments that could affect their psyche, then at least do it right.  Advocate that potential parents can adopt from America more easily, rather than forcing them to go to China and Africa to get children.  That way, when we have to take children away from parents, we don't deter adoptive parents and can deal with the children more efficiently.

I think you're always going to have completely sane people with no history of mental illness, who break suddenly due to either one traumatic event, or a build up of anxiety over time that eventually bursts.  I don't know if that's happened here; I haven't cared to read on the killer's history.  But in general, it can always happen no matter how hard you try to prevent it.

But if we're talking about what should be done?  Pie in the sky hopes without financial constraints or issues with expanding the government's control?  Then yeah, I think the above issues need to be addressed better than they are.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 01:37:47 AM »
Something does need to be done, and the President has asked for recommendations from our legislators.  I think it's a little too soon to be complaining about how they're going to take our weapons away when nothing has even been suggested, much less decided.

It's a "gun control task force". You really think there are any other solutions he has in mind here?
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