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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on November 05, 2011, 06:36:51 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/05/penn-state-ex-coach-others-charged-in-child-sex-case/
A lot of details coming out. Apparently, this former defensive coordinator of Penn State had preteen and teenage boyfriends. Even took them along to bowl games, team dinners, etc. Later those evenings, Sandusky was having sexual relations with them.
Multiple people were notified of Sandusky's pederastic behavior and didn't notify the police. This includes Joe Paterno who has not been named in this case. But the Penn St AD and another administrator have been charged with not notifying the police about the relationship and activities between Sandusky and the child.
Here's the official report:
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf
SbB is going through it. I'm not sure if he can read, but he's tweeting some really disheartening information.
2002: Paterno SPECIFICALLY told by grad asst he witnessed Sandusky anally raping child in PSU locker room. Police never notified.
After all of that, in 2007, Paterno allowed Sandusky to bring 11 yr old boy, who he was raping at the time, to multiple practices.
Criminal Docket: Before Paterno told in 2002 about specific Sandusky child rape, Sandusky charged w/ 35 child sex crimes. After 2002: 5 more
Sandusky took 12 yr old on 2 bowl trips & to other games. Boy ate dinner w/ coaches, roomed w/ Sandusky. 'Fixture' as Sandusky companion
Pre-teen boy who Sandusky raped for four years appeared in a story about Sandusky that appeared in Sports Illustrated & in coaching video.
2 PSU staffers charged w/ not notifying police, child services. Paterno, highest profile employee in state of Pennsylvania, not charged.
I have a feeling Paterno isn't involved with any of the criminal investigations because of his age and his importance to the state.
Still though. Fucked up.
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Saban to PSU
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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/05/penn-state-ex-coach-others-charged-in-child-sex-case/
A lot of details coming out. Apparently, this former defensive coordinator of Penn State had preteen and teenage boyfriends. Even took them along to bowl games, team dinners, etc. Later those evenings, Sandusky was having sexual relations with them.
Multiple people were notified of Sandusky's pederastic behavior and didn't notify the police. This includes Joe Paterno who has not been named in this case. But the Penn St AD and another administrator have been charged with not notifying the police about the relationship and activities between Sandusky and the child.
Here's the official report:
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf
SbB is going through it. I'm not sure if he can read, but he's tweeting some really disheartening information.
I have a feeling Paterno isn't involved with any of the criminal investigations because of his age and his importance to the state.
Still though. Fucked up.
I haven't heard many details. Just heard about Sandusky last night. Would be sad to think that someone is trying to implicate Paterno just to run him off. However, from the looks of things, it would seem headed that direction at the moment. Hard to survive being linked to this type shit. Joe is lucky he's not long for this world if this stink gets on him.
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latest per CBS:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15998954/penn-state-ad-exassistant-sandusky-charged-in-child-sex-case
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That report is some seriously brutal shit.
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Has to be the end of Joe Pa, and it will tarnish his reputation. He knew what the fuck was going on.
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Has to be the end of Joe Pa, and it will tarnish his reputation. He knew what the fuck was going on.
I agree, you have to call the police in that situation.
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Has to be the end of Joe Pa, and it will tarnish his reputation. He knew what the fuck was going on.
Yup
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Has to be the end of Joe Pa, and it will tarnish his reputation. He knew what the fuck was going on.
I'll bet they will find a way for him to "gracefully" bow out. That is really some messed up shit though, and if he were really the great leader the state pen fans think he is, it would have been squashed as soon as Joe Pa heard of or saw anything going on.
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I'll bet they will find a way for him to "gracefully" bow out. That is really some messed up shit though, and if he were really the great leader the state pen fans think he is, it would have been squashed as soon as Joe Pa heard of or saw anything going on.
This situation is some sick ass shit.
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This motherfucker wrote an autobiography called Touched. In it, he talked about the charity for children that he started and how he would have kids come stay at his house.
This is one of the most fucked up stories to come out in a long time.
He used a charity for at-reach children to lure boys into his sexual fantasy. :sad:
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He used a charity for at-reach children to lure boys into his sexual fantasy. :sad:
It's like the time Jumbo started a rescue kennel for stray dogs
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This motherfucker wrote an autobiography called Touched. In it, he talked about the charity for children that he started and how he would have kids come stay at his house.
This is one of the most fucked up stories to come out in a long time.
He used a charity for at-reach children to lure boys into his sexual fantasy. :sad:
That's fucked up.
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It's like the time Jumbo started a rescue kennel for stray dogs
Your barking up the wrong tree.
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Fuck me this shit's going to continue down the toilet.
Penn State Head Coach Joe Paterno released a statement today regarding the child sex abuse charges filed against his former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, saying "If this is true we were all fooled."
Perjury and failure to report charges were also filed against university Athletic Director Tim Curley and Vice President for business and finance, Gary Schultz, after prosecutors say they ignored a report in 2002 from then-graduate assistant Mike McQueary that McQueary had witnessed Sandusky performing a sex act with a boy in the Penn State football locker room.
Paterno, 84, told Curley about what McQueary witnessed, but said in his statement that he was never told the specifics of what McQueary saw.
This is the statement, in full:
"If true, the nature and amount of charges made are very shocking to me and all Penn Staters. While I did what I was supposed to with the one charge brought to my attention, like anyone else involved I can't help but be deeply saddened these matters are alleged to have occurred.
"Sue and I have devoted our lives to helping young people reach their potential. The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers.
"As my grand jury testimony stated, I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As Coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators.
"I understand that people are upset and angry, but let's be fair and let the legal process unfold. In the meantime I would ask all Penn Staters to continue to trust in what that name represents, continue to pursue their lives every day with high ideals and not let these events shake their beliefs nor who they are."
Anyone believe him that they didn't specifically tell him what they saw?
"Yeah, uh, coach, um, Coach Paterno, that um, Coach Sandusky is uh, well, he uh, he's doing something inappropriate in the locker room."
"I'll refer it to the administration. Thanks for telling me about it, and I appreciate the specificity of your reporting."
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Fuck me this shit's going to continue down the toilet.
Anyone believe him that they didn't specifically tell him what they saw?
"Yeah, uh, coach, um, Coach Paterno, that um, Coach Sandusky is uh, well, he uh, he's doing something inappropriate in the locker room."
"I'll refer it to the administration. Thanks for telling me about it, and I appreciate the specificity of your reporting."
Nope. Which is why this will ruin Paterno. He may not get charged, but he damn sure knew what was happening and covered it up.
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Nope. Which is why this will ruin Paterno. He may not get charged, but he damn sure knew what was happening and covered it up.
Next week's headline:
"Joe Paterno Diagnosed with Dementia. Will Step Down Immediately."
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Now available at local State College, PA McDonalds. A real favorite among former defensive coordinators...
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Now available at local State College, PA McDonalds. A real favorite among former defensive coordinators...
Available in veal, of course?
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Attorney Generals Report 23 pages that make me want to puke.
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf
This motherfucker is scum, he should be executed on live t.v.
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Page 5 of the report states that Paterno was told specifically what Sandusky was doing to the boy in the shower, and he only reported it to the athletic director.
I don't think Paterno was "in on it" or anything like that. But it's still sad to see a man who supposedly is of the utmost character not going directly to the police and continuing to have contact with this sick, twisted individual.
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Page 5 of the report states that Paterno was told specifically what Sandusky was doing to the boy in the shower, and he only reported it to the athletic director.
I don't think Paterno was "in on it" or anything like that. But it's still sad to see a man who supposedly is of the utmost character not going directly to the police and continuing to have contact with this sick, twisted individual.
If he was told that a child was being molested, it's his responsibility as a coach and a human being to confront the issue and report to authorities. His failing to do so puts him "in on it".
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If he was told that a child was being molested, it's his responsibility as a coach and a human being to confront the issue and report to authorities. His failing to do so puts him "in on it".
This.
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I can't read this report or any of the other links. I have heard enough of this scum bag just from what you guys have said. I can tell you right fucking now, I would straight up kill a motherfucker with my bare hands if some sonofabitch did that to any of my kids.
I think I still have family in the Long Island area, time to call in a favor.
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If he was told that a child was being molested, it's his responsibility as a coach and a human being to confront the issue and report to authorities. His failing to do so puts him "in on it".
THIS^^^
"We are Penn State" - LMFAO
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THIS^^^
"We are Penn State" - LMFAO
They have gone from "penn staters" to "penis tasters"
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They have gone from "penn staters" to "penis tasters"
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If he was told that a child was being molested, it's his responsibility as a coach and a human being to confront the issue and report to authorities. His failing to do so puts him "in on it".
This.
Ditto.
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Ditto.
Pretty sure they'd have a state law that would make him a mandatory reporter. He MAY have complied with that if he kicked it up the administrative ladder. Morally? Well, that's another story especially if he knew about this while he was on staff. I don't see how Paterno survives this.
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I don't see how Paterno survives this.
Totally agree.
Any other coach is telling recruits and recruiting parents, "would you really want to send your son to a school where this was reported to the campus police and then nothing happened?"
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I didn't know Mark Ingram liked the young boys.
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I didn't know Mark Ingram liked the young boys.
Or Julio Jones for that matter (just for Wench).
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Could this turn into the worst, most famous sports scandal in history?
Think about it.
Legendary head coach known for doing things the right way is part of a university's cover up of a successful, tenured football coach's raping of children. And he lured those children into his sick fantasy through a charity he started to reach at-reach children.
Mind blowing.
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What's all this fuss I hear about Sandusky getting a pedicure in the shower?
No Coach. Sandusky was being a pedophile in the shower.
A whaaat?
Pedophile. He was stirring a young boy's collards
Collards? Never like em' much. Prefer cabbage myself.
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Could this turn into the worst, most famous sports scandal in history?
Think about it.
Legendary head coach known for doing things the right way is part of a university's cover up of a successful, tenured football coach's raping of children. And he lured those children into his sick fantasy through a charity he started to reach at-reach children.
Mind blowing.
Seriously. And to think, just a couple of months ago, I was shocked about stripper abortions at Miami.
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How did this information finally get out? I'm watching black helicopters hover over my office right now, but now that Joe Pa has the record this could be the best way to get rid of him. If Joe was still saying that he wanted to keep on coaching and the money brokers at Penn St were ready to move on, then bam this story hits, and Joe finally hits the road. O/U on Joe Pa's death after he leaves football? I say 8 months.
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What's all this fuss I hear about Sandusky getting a pedicure in the shower?
No Coach. Sandusky was being a pedophile in the shower.
A whaaat?
Pedophile. He was stirring a young boy's collards
Collards? Never like em' much. Prefer cabbage myself.
"Hey, Curley?"
"Yeah, Coach."
"Something inappropriate is going on in the locker room."
"Like what?"
"I don't know. I think Sandusky's cooking collard greens in the shower. Got that ten year old in there with him."
"I like collard greens. Think that's something I'd like to know about? He invited the ten year old? I thought the ten year old gave him the creeps?"
"Yeah I don't know."
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Joe Pa was told about it going on he just promptly forgot about immediately afterward.
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"Hey, Curley?"
"Yeah, Coach."
"Something inappropriate is going on in the locker room."
"Like what?"
"I don't know. I think Sandusky's cooking collard greens in the shower. Got that ten year old in there with him."
"I like collard greens. Think that's something I'd like to know about? He invited the ten year old? I thought the ten year old gave him the creeps?"
"Yeah I don't know."
Beeep......Collard green stirring moved to the shower.
Oh, yeah...got it.
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Joe Pa was told about it going on he just promptly forgot about immediately afterward.
The perks of being an old man.
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According to Dan Wetzel who was just on F'bomb...Paterno did the bare minimum to comply with the law by reporting it to his "immediate supervisor", the AD. Also said he should have done more than the bare minimum. That said, this occurred in 2002, which was 3 years after Sandusky retired, so there's not much else he could do.
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That said, this occurred in 2002, which was 3 years after Sandusky retired, so there's not much else he could do.
Sure there is. He could have called the fucking cops.
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Sure there is. He could have called the fucking cops.
So you're saying the cops woulda' wanted a turn in the showers?
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Sure there is. He could have called the fucking cops.
He didn't witness it, and it was reported to him after the fact. He really didn't have any direct knowledge to report to the cops. He could have, and should have ordered the GA that witnessed it to report what he saw to the cops. But Paterno complied with the law, albeit the bare minimum, and stayed within his chain of command.
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He didn't witness it, and it was reported to him after the fact.
Thought the story was that the GA saw the happenings in the shower and ran and told JoePa immediately?
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Thought the story was that the GA saw the happenings in the shower and ran and told JoePa immediately?
Maybe I misheard Wetzel, but thought he said the GA went the next day. At any rate...Joe Pa should have ordered the GA to report it to the police. However, his only legal duty was to report it up the chain. Morally? Mmmmm. This WILL BE the end of Joe Pa, and like someone said I give him less than a year to live following being run from coaching.
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2002: Paterno SPECIFICALLY told by grad asst he witnessed Sandusky anally raping child in PSU locker room. Police never notified.
There's nothing more that need be said.
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Here's another thing...these types of cases usually spawn more reports from victims that come forward. What we know now may just be the tip of the iceberg. We may find out that Paterno knew about Sandusky for his entire career.
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This is a crazy, fricked up world and there's a ton of it I just don't understand. Why are so many sheet-heads willing to strap a bomb themselves and blow them and 40-50 innocent people up? Why does a dwarf like Lord Saybinz have so many cringe in fear when he speaks? And WHAT is the sexual attraction to a kid? Sani?
Seriously, I get the teenage thing with girls. They don't look nuthin' like they did when I was 15. You just have to keep the force strong and resist. But 10 year old boys? It's almost an every day thing to read about some sick fuck raping a 3 year old. What's the attraction? What would make you say, "Heeyyy, I'd like me a piece of that hot 4 year old ass." I just don't get it.
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Seriously, I get the teenage thing with girls. They don't look nuthin' like they did when I was 15. You just have to keep the force strong and resist. But 10 year old boys? It's almost an every day thing to read about some sick fuck raping a 3 year old. What's the attraction? What would make you say, "Heeyyy, I'd like me a piece of that hot 4 year old ass." I just don't get it.
It's something that I never really thought of, other than "that's sick" before I had kids. Once I had kids, it went from "that's sick" to "if anyone does that to my kids, they are fucking dead."
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It's something that I never really thought of, other than "that's sick" before I had kids. Once I had kids, it went from "that's sick" to "if anyone does that to my kids, they are fucking dead."
Yep. I have a grown daughter and an 11 year old boy. And Sandusky...and other freaks would find him sexually attractive? I'd go to the "Gun Control" thread and choose the piece that would do the most damage in the least amount of time.
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It's something that I never really thought of, other than "that's sick" before I had kids. Once I had kids, it went from "that's sick" to "if anyone does that to my kids, they are fucking dead."
It's a terrible disease and it's not curable. The only viable Rx is death. These people absolutely cannot be rehabilitated.
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According to Dan Wetzel who was just on F'bomb...Paterno did the bare minimum to comply with the law by reporting it to his "immediate supervisor", the AD. Also said he should have done more than the bare minimum. That said, this occurred in 2002, which was 3 years after Sandusky retired, so there's not much else he could do.
They could have stopped him from using Penn State campuses for his "Come Get Fucked, Little Boys" camps he was running.
As I said earlier, I don't think Paterno is in trouble with the law. I doubt we'll ever know the full extent of his involvement though or at least the full knowledge he had of the situation.
But I do think he should be finished. Sooner than this season's end.
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They could have stopped him from using Penn State campuses for his "Come Get Fucked, Little Boys" camps he was running.
As I said earlier, I don't think Paterno is in trouble with the law. I doubt we'll ever know the full extent of his involvement though or at least the full knowledge he had of the situation.
But I do think he should be finished. Sooner than this season's end.
As I said, under PA law, Paterno did the absolute bare minimum he was required to do. He fell woefully short of any moral obligation. I do think he should be finished TODAY!
Let us not forget too that this 2002 incident was witnessed by a 28 year old GA. I would assume a former football player who witnessed an old man ass raping a boy he judged to be @10 years old, and "left the building distraught" instead of stomping the old fucker's ass and protecting the victim, or calling 911 from the nearest phone. Then, according to GJ Report, called his father, who urged him to go to Paterno, which he did the following morning. The GJ found his testimony "very credible". This GA was NOT a child himself, and I question his inaction as well. Makes me wonder about there being a very deeply ingrained "let's keep this in house" culture at PSU.
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Another little spin on this is what the future hold for Pedo State. I've said many time and I think I saw mention of it earlier in this thread, that it wouldn't be surprising to see Lord Saybinz take over for JoPa to finish his career. LS is a West Virginia native and I would imagine that Penn State, being in his back yard, was a pretty big deal growing up.
But this scandal is just taking off and I can see this thing absolutely blowing the lid off that place.
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But this scandal is just taking off and I can see this thing absolutely blowing the lid off that place.
Which is exactly why they will clean house. They'll need a big time hire to get fans back, too.
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I've said many time and I think I saw mention of it earlier in this thread, that it wouldn't be surprising to see Lord Saybinz take over for JoPa to finish his career. LS is a West Virginia native and I would imagine that Penn State, being in his back yard, was a pretty big deal growing up.
In this scenario, bammer U plays the role of 10 year old boy
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Another little spin on this is what the future hold for Pedo State. I've said many time and I think I saw mention of it earlier in this thread, that it wouldn't be surprising to see Lord Saybinz take over for JoPa to finish his career. LS is a West Virginia native and I would imagine that Penn State, being in his back yard, was a pretty big deal growing up.
But this scandal is just taking off and I can see this thing absolutely blowing the lid off that place.
Damn, I picked the wrong thread:
http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=16405.msg230683#msg230683 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=16405.msg230683#msg230683)
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As I said, under PA law, Paterno did the absolute bare minimum he was required to do. He fell woefully short of any moral obligation. I do think he should be finished TODAY!
Let us not forget too that this 2002 incident was witnessed by a 28 year old GA. I would assume a former football player who witnessed an old man ass raping a boy he judged to be @10 years old, and "left the building distraught" instead of stomping the old fucker's ass and protecting the victim, or calling 911 from the nearest phone. Then, according to GJ Report, called his father, who urged him to go to Paterno, which he did the following morning. The GJ found his testimony "very credible". This GA was NOT a child himself, and I question his inaction as well. Makes me wonder about there being a very deeply ingrained "let's keep this in house" culture at PSU.
The GA (who was a former PSU quarterback) should definitely be hit as well.
But how did this Sandusky guy get to use PSU facilities until 2009? How did anyone with a brain not realize that he was fucking the boys he was taking on bowl trips? How did anyone miss that Sandusky was doing this shit all while running a charity that attracts vulnerable young kids who don't have anyone to rely on?
My gut feeling says this is a ticking nuclear bomb. Something stinks to high heavens about this story.
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In this instance, I don't think the chain of command is HC-AD-President. It should be...GA-Police or GA-HC-Police. The Police is the next step in the chain of command (not the campus police, the real police).
THS, I definitely agree...this story will be massive.
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In this instance, I don't think the chain of command is HC-AD-President. It should be...GA-Police or GA-HC-Police. The Police is the next step in the chain of command (not the campus police, the real police).
THS, I definitely agree...this story will be massive.
I'm NOT defending anyone involved. However, you probably have to factor in the "No fucking way he saw that" factor. The level of disbelief must be incredible. The "what if I report this, and it's all a big misunderstanding, but now I've ruined a good man" must creep in to one's thoughts.
OTOH, I have a hard time believing that if Sandusky was this brazen that people around him didn't know, or weren't at least really suspicious.
But, in the end, I've prosecuted these cases...those of us who are normal in our sex drive, somehow have a difficult time processing how fucked up some people can be, and wind up being willfully blind.
Paterno is finished. I expect he'll resign at his presser tomorrow. If not, he'll be run shortly thereafter.
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I'm NOT defending anyone involved. However, you probably have to factor in the "No fucking way he saw that" factor. The level of disbelief must be incredible. The "what if I report this, and it's all a big misunderstanding, but now I've ruined a good man" must creep in to one's thoughts.
OTOH, I have a hard time believing that if Sandusky was this brazen that people around him didn't know, or weren't at least really suspicious.
But, in the end, I've prosecuted these cases...those of us who are normal in our sex drive, somehow have a difficult time processing how fucked up some people can be, and wind up being willfully blind.
Paterno is finished. I expect he'll resign at his presser tomorrow. If not, he'll be run shortly thereafter.
That's what I'm thinking, someone else had to know. This has been going on for too long for atleast one or two people not to know, I think that's what will be the "bomb"....who all knew about it and for how long.
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The motherfucker was still using the Penn State facilities just as recently as last week.
Embattled former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky continued to be a presence around the Penn State football program up to his arrest Saturday on child molestation charges, including working out multiple times in the team’s weight room just last week, according to multiple sources within the football program.
The sources, who asked to remain unnamed due to the nature of the scandal, said they saw Sandusky working out in the Lasch Football Building last week.
Penn State said it banned Sandusky from bringing children to the football building after a then graduate assistant reported he saw the then 59-year-old coach and a 10-year-old boy in the shower of the football team’s locker room.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_sandusky_penn_state_presence_last_week110711
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If the GA had walked into the locker room and saw Sandusky stabbing a kid with a knife, he would have called the cops immediately.
Instead, he saw him anally raping the kid and waited until the next day to tell his head coach - NOT the cops - his head coach.
NO WAY does the GA not know that was a crime. NO FUCKING WAY. I would have kicked that bastard in the nuts and kept kicking while dialing 9-1-1. Instead, he essentially does NOTHING.
EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE - from the Univ President to Paterno to any coach on that staff who was there when Sandusky was, or who ever knew him to do more than say hi to, needs to be GONE. NOW. That is the most egregious example of "lack of institutional control" ever.
Pedo coaches = Pedo priests. There will be a special corner of hell for these fuckers and for those who knew and did nothing to stop them. And I don't care who you are - JoePa or an archbishop - you are equally to blame.
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The more I hear and read about this, the worse it seems for Joe Pa. I can see him not initially calling the police when the GA reported to him. I can see that he may have not wanted to be a part of it. Where he really goes wrong is in continuing to allow Sandusky around, and in doing so knew there was no police investigation...THEN he should have taken steps outside the chain of command. He essentially gave his approval of this behavior.
The GA same same. That fucker is still on the staff, and they knew Sandusky was still around the program, and still around kids.
The whole fucking thing is sicker than sick!
Joe Paterno is as guilty as Sandusky, and he should be gone today.
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Anything less than Paterno stepping down at his press conference today is unacceptable. But...here's how it will go. He'll gimp his shriveled ass up to the mic, read a prepared statement saying he can't answer any questions because of an ongoing investigation and he's preparing for a football game this weekend, the reporters will rightfully ignore the statement and hammer him about the scandal and he'll walk/gimp out on the presser.
Think about it. What it comes down to is he was told his defensive coordinator was ass raping a child in the shower and he and the rest of the fine, upstanding Pedo State University administration ignored it and allowed it to keep happening. Fuck him.
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You know come to think of it their mascot already looks pretty close to a pedo bear.
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I'm afraid JoePa will get a pass from the media. He needs to retire, effective immediately though.
I still cannot grasp the fact that the GA saw this and went home to call....his Pops?!?!? I understand that he probably felt his career was over if he said anything, but how could you not go to the authorities?
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I'm afraid JoePa will get a pass from the media. He needs to retire, effective immediately though.
I still cannot grasp the fact that the GA saw this and went home to call....his Pops?!?!? I understand that he probably felt his career was over if he said anything, but how could you not go to the authorities?
How could any of them all the way from the GA to the athletic director not go to the cops? The more I think about this and the more I hear, it just blows my mind. And he KEPT on bringing kids on campus, on trips etc. You know this wasn't kept as their little secret. Anyone think Paterno is the only one the GA told? I imagine a lot of other people knew and saw Sandusky constantly with kids. Take it a step further...Sandusky started this childrens foundation long before he was caught raping one in the shower. Did Paterno or anyone else think to consider Sandusky might be abusing numerous others? This shit is sick.
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This whole thing goes to show that public perception is almost never correct. There are no saints, and you never know who the sinners are.
Cam Newton is innocent, and has done absolutely nothing wrong (public perception still hasn't budged much on that).
Jim Tressel, the do-righter in the v-neck sweater, is guilty of cheating.
Joe Paterno, the relic of what is right about coaching, harbored child rapists.
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I'm afraid JoePa will get a pass from the media. He needs to retire, effective immediately though.
I still cannot grasp the fact that the GA saw this and went home to call....his Pops?!?!? I understand that he probably felt his career was over if he said anything, but how could you not go to the authorities?
No fucking way he gets a pass. At first I thought he might, but he gave tacit approval to this sick shit.
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This whole thing goes to show that public perception is almost never correct. There are no saints, and you never know who the sinners are.
Cam Newton is innocent, and has done absolutely nothing wrong (public perception still hasn't budged much on that).
Jim Tressel, the do-righter in the v-neck sweater, is guilty of cheating.
Joe Paterno, the relic of what is right about coaching, harbored child rapists.
BAM...THIS just happened. Spot on Chizad.
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So what Chad is saying is that all things Auburn = innocent and all others = evil.
Sounds right to me.
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So what Chad is saying is that all things Auburn = innocent and all others = evil.
Sounds right to me.
If the shoe fits.....
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So what Chad is saying is that all things Auburn = innocent and all others = evil.
Sounds right to me.
^^^This^^^
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I was at a get together Friday night and get to talking this guy who has been with the police here for years and does a ton of investigation for attorneys as well. He got to telling all these old war stories about different lawyers and judges around here..."This one time, we had ole Judge _____ at that strip club outside of.......you remember John Coctostan, well me and him and Art Vandelay loaded up these ole gals one night and...
Paterno sitting around the table with some old coaching buddies over whiskey drinks. In best Yankee voice. "Yeah, you remember that GA we had a few years back? Well, he walks back into the locker room one night and hears this slap, slap, slap...turns out it's ole Sandusky giving the high hard one to this kid. (Laughter erupts) Sandusky says, whattaya doin'? Turn out the damn lights, I ain't finished...and starts waving the GA outta' there. (More laughter erupts) I tell ya', that damn Sandusky couldn't keep his dick outta' the kids." BWAAAHAHAHA...
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I was at a get together Friday night and get to talking this guy who has been with the police here for years and does a ton of investigation for attorneys as well. He got to telling all these old war stories about different lawyers and judges around here..."This one time, we had ole Judge _____ at that strip club outside of.......you remember John Coctostan, well me and him and Art Vandelay loaded up these ole gals one night and...
Paterno sitting around the table with some old coaching buddies over whiskey drinks. In best Yankee voice. "Yeah, you remember that GA we had a few years back? Well, he walks back into the locker room one night and hears this slap, slap, slap...turns out it's ole Sandusky giving the high hard one to this kid. (Laughter erupts) Sandusky says, whattaya doin'? Turn out the damn lights, I ain't finished...and starts waving the GA outta' there. (More laughter erupts) I tell ya', that damn Sandusky couldn't keep his dick outta' the kids." BWAAAHAHAHA...
Last paragraph may have been funnier than K's goat pic earlier.
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It seems they are cowards as well in Happy Valley.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-scandal-joe-paterno-weekly-press-conference-canceled-article-1.974273 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-scandal-joe-paterno-weekly-press-conference-canceled-article-1.974273)
Penn State scandal: Joe Paterno's weekly press conference has been canceled
School officials say Paterno will not resign
BY Michael O'keeffe
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Originally Published: Tuesday, November 8 2011, 9:59 AM
Updated: Tuesday, November 8 2011, 11:58 AM
UPDATE: Joe Paterno's weekly press conference has been canceled.
Here is the statement read to the assembled media by sports information director Jeff Nelson:
"Due to the ongoing legal circumstances centered around the recent allegations and charges, we have determined that today's press conference cannot be held and will not be rescheduled."
Nelson did not take questions before leaving the podium, but when asked if Paterno would resign he simply said: "No."
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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - Embattled Penn State football coach Joe Paterno will meet with the media today, but school officials suggest Paterno will not talk about allegations that his longtime defensive coordinator sexually abused eight boys, or that university officials did not report the assaults to police, or that he should have done more once he learned of the alleged abuse.
"Media planning to attend Tuesday's Penn State football weekly teleconference are advised that the primary focus of the teleconference is to answer questions related to Penn State's Senior Day game with Nebraska this Saturday," sports information director Jeff Nelson said in a release issued to reporters late Monday. "Head coach Joe Paterno and any Penn State football student-athletes in attendance will be answering questions about the Nebraska game, Penn State's season thus far and other topics related to the current college football season."
LUPICA: PATERNO AT CENTER OF UNHOLY MESS
WEISS: FAN BOYCOTT WOULD OPEN EYES AT PENN STATE
George Beres, a former SID at Northwestern and Oregon, sent us an email that says Paterno is in for a rude awakening: "I can only laugh at Penn State's proposal of limiting questions to football at the next Paterno news conference. Any self-respecting reporter HAS to raise the sex subject, and the school has no way of preventing it."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-scandal-joe-paterno-weekly-press-conference-canceled-article-1.974273#ixzz1d8PE80vX
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Not surprising. And an emphatic "No" about Paterno resigning? Wow!!! Just wow!
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They're still trying to formulate an excuse for Paterno.
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They're still trying to formulate an excuse for Paterno.
For fucks sake there isn't one. Paterno had a chance to save what little dignity he had left by sucking it up and stepping down.
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Probably don't want him making it worse. Thamel and others saying he's gone witin days.
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They're still trying to formulate an excuse for Paterno.
I dont think so.
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Probably don't want him making it worse. Thamel and others saying he's gone witin days.
I hope he stays just so Thamel will be wrong.
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The report I heard on WJOX was that a couple of BOT members said they were in the process of "managing his departure." Sounded like he might not even coach this weekend. And he shouldn't. The last thing I'm sure they want is Joe getting in front of reporters and trying to make excuses.
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It's hard to believe that one of the most legendary coaches in the history of this sport that I love is going to step down because he helped cover up an old man screwing children in the ass.
This is fucking disgusting.
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If someone had told me a week ago that JoePa's career would end in utter shame and embarassment over a child sex scandal, I'd have laughed. It's surreal.
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It's hard to believe that one of the most legendary coaches in the history of this sport that I love is going to step down because he helped cover up an old man screwing children in the ass.
This is fudgeing disgusting.
I figured it would happen someday. I just always assumed it would involve Houston Nutt.
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I figured it would happen someday. I just always assumed it would involve Houston Nutt.
Post of the day.
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Post of the day.
this would be post of the year on woopussy.
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I figured it would happen someday. I just always assumed it would involve Houston Nutt III.
Game.
You almost have it.
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Heath Evans making sense.
I am not surprised by the allegations that came out this weekend about long-time Penn State Assistant Coach Jerry Sandusky. Each day the Heath Evans Foundation hears stories that evidence the widespread nature of childhood sexual abuse in our country. You can read some of them at our site www.imavictim.com.
What I am shocked and upset about is how little attention the story is getting. This investigation has been going on for three years and this is the first we have heard about it? That’s a travesty! An important institution of higher learning buried reports about the abuse and used the excuse of, “It was horseplay?” Despicable and inexcusable.
The most conservative statistics say that one in four girls and one in six boys will be sexually abused before the age of 18. Google it if you have any trouble believing. You’ll likely find more profound numbers. This is an epidemic that has been quiet for too long!
What amazes me is that as I sit over the weekend and search the major newspapers and television news sites, I find so much about Herman Cain, so much about the Greek government, about the Michael Jackson trial — and so little about the alleged molestation of young boys by an authority figure and the cover-up of his actions by university officials.
My own hometown newspaper, The Palm Beach Post, ran the story on page 6 of the sports section. Papers in my adopted hometowns of New Orleans and Boston similarly missed the boat on making an issue of something that affects the health of our country’s youth.
Spend time this morning online looking at the Los Angeles Times, New York Times, Atlanta Journal/Constitution, and Chicago Sun Times and you will find the story if you look for it.
You’ll find it under such stories as a plumber’s sweetheart sewer contract (Chicago); sunny days replaced by rain (Atlanta); diversity on school menus (L.A.); and Berlusconi’s possible resignation (N.Y.). The Philadelphia Inquirer’s online site presents six stories about the topic — but not under their “Today’s Features” section that draws the reader’s eye.
USA Today online does much better. The Penn State story actually makes it into the top three. The Huffington Post places it below the “online fold” — below stories of politics, economy, and the fact that older folks are wealthier than younger folks.
Today I am calling out newsrooms across the country. This is a story much bigger than football.
If you want economics, talk about the financial impact of the addictions and years of therapy that such abuse causes. If you want politics, talk about why so little is done to punish sexual predators. If you want sports, talk about abuse of boys and girls by deviant coaches and parents who turn a blind eye hoping that what they suspect is not true.
With reflection, I liken this epidemic to cancer. I certainly do not want to lessen the importance of a physical disease that afflicts so many, but I do want to make the point that childhood sexual abuse tears apart lives and families in much the same way — yet gets much less attention.
Tomorrow I will be calling out the NCAA, as I examine the way that they major on the minors. I am hoping that this case receives more attention from them than some tattoos at Ohio State.
Read more on Newsmax.com: Penn State Coach Scandal Should Be Front-Page News
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
http://www.newsmax.com/HeathEvans/Penn-State-Coach-Scandal/2011/11/07/id/417164
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Being reported on teh twitters:
http://twitter.com/#!/slmandel
Scott Paterno, Joe's son, is working on setting up an off-campus press conference for Paterno to speak at.
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The Heath Evans Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too.
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Post of the day.
Unfortunately, bad timing. This would be a post of the week even, but Sani's "He married a pop up blocker" wins. Sad when you bring your A Game, and still come in second.
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Being reported on teh twitters:
http://twitter.com/#!/slmandel
Oh noes...this ain't gone be purdy!
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Unfortunately, bad timing. This would be a post of the week even, but Sani's "He married a pop up blocker" wins. Sad when you bring your A Game, and still come in second.
That's just life in the big leagues, baby.
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That's just life in the big leagues, baby.
Your pop up blocker says you know squadoosh about "big leagues".
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Your pop up blocker says you know squadoosh about "big leagues".
Oh she married me so she's very familiar with the Big Leagues.
It's just that...well, we're having a little trouble with negotiations and getting a deal done and the season is in jeopardy of being cancelled.
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Oh she married me so she's very familiar with the Big Leagues.
It's just that...well, we're having a little trouble with negotiations and getting a deal done and the season is in jeopardy of being cancelled.
She said you always had to be pinch hit for when you were in the bush league.
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She said you always had to be pinch hit for when you were in the bush league.
Bush? She shav...I mean, ha ha..very funny.
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Unfortunately, bad timing. This would be a post of the week even, but Sani's "He married a pop up blocker" wins. Sad when you bring your A Game, and still come in second.
Makes me feel like Saban playing a higher ranked team.
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Danny Sheridan guaranteed Paterno was going to coach another 5 years and will win the Big 10 Championship next year.
Pretty much guarantees he's gone.
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Danny Sheridan guaranteed Paterno was going to coach another 5 years and will win the Big 10 Championship next year.
Pretty much guarantees he's gone.
From an inside source at the NCAA?
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In case anyone needed to throw up today:
(http://i.imgur.com/LbU9F.png)
Those aren't Penn State scholarship players.
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From the Harrisburg, PA Patriot-Ledger, on the Penn State scandal. "There are the obligations we all have to uphold the law. There are then the obligations we have to do what is right." They absolutely get it.
Worth a read. It's a .pdf so I can't post it from my phone.
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=PA_PN&ref_pge=lst (http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=PA_PN&ref_pge=lst)
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In case anyone needed to throw up today:
(http://i.imgur.com/LbU9F.png)
Those aren't Penn State scholarship players.
I LOL'ed and just noticed these two spikey bumps coming out of my forhead...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I
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It gets worse, altho this does not surprise me. As old as this guy is, you know this was going on for YEARS.
On Monday, Pennsylvania state police commissioner Frank Noonan and attorney general Linda Kelly encouraged alleged victims of former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky to come forward and assist the state's investigation. Noonan and Kelly publicized two phone numbers for the potential victims to call in order to contact investigators. One day later, it looks as if their call has been heard.
According to Fox 29 in Philadelphia, the number of alleged victims in the Sandusky case has doubled, and now approaches 20. As of Monday, Sandusky had been charged with indecent acts against eight minors.
Sources tell Fox 29 since a press conference on Monday, the number of potential victims has more than doubled in the case.
On Monday, Pennsylvania state attorney general Linda Kelly said the Sandusky case was consideried an on-going investigation and more charges could be coming.
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Here's something interesting...the DA Ray Gricar, who was the lead investigator of the '98 case, has been missing, along with his computer's hard drive, since April 2005 and was pronounced dead in July 2005.
His vehicle was later found near the Susquehanna River along with the computer's hard drive (the hard drive was smashed and in the river near the vehicle).
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/11/07/why-did-the-district-attorney-in-pennsylvania-not-pursue-a-case-against-jerry-sandusky-in-1998/
http://www.yardbird.com/midnight_ride_another_missing_PA_prosecutor_2.htm
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Here's something interesting...the DA Ray Gricar, who was the lead investigator of the '98 case, has been missing, along with his computer's hard drive, since April 2005 and was pronounced dead in July 2005.
His vehicle was later found near the Susquehanna River along with the computer's hard drive (the hard drive was smashed and in the river near the vehicle).
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/11/07/why-did-the-district-attorney-in-pennsylvania-not-pursue-a-case-against-jerry-sandusky-in-1998/
http://www.yardbird.com/midnight_ride_another_missing_PA_prosecutor_2.htm
Great googly moogly. This is the most fucked up story in the history of sports. Hollywood couldn't write this stuff.
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Great googly moogly. This is the most fucked up story in the history of college sports. Hollywood couldn't write this stuff.
Holy shit.
Maybe this is why Joe and the GA shut their mouths about it.
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Holy shit.
Maybe this is why Joe and the GA shut their mouths about it.
Silence...I keel you.
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Disclaimer: I believe the allegations made in this case are reprehensible and, if true, all accused should be punished to the extent of the law.
That said, this scandal is reviving my favorite of grossly offensive joke genres: the pedo joke is back!
A judge is sentencing a pedo for some pretty horrific offenses. During his castigation of the convict as the worst scum of the earth and deserving of a loss of personal liberty for a long time, the judge asks, "How does 10-12 years sound?"
To which the pedo replies, "Sexy!"
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Some of the reviews of "Touched" are pretty epic.
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582613575/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320853167&sr=8-1
Ohhhh yeahhhhhhh, I'm dropping loads..., November 9, 2011
...of accolades on this penetrating memoir. At no other time in literary history has a biography nailed its subject matter so well.
What I really appreciated in the relationship between the main characters is that they are very practical. We don't read endless internal monologues of what they are feeling.
The way their relationship moves from casual sex to love is gradual and natural. There is a lot of kinky sex, but it's defining of them together, because it shows how they fit together, how they accept each other, how they trust each other. It's a release, but it's also a connection. It's a really moving story, where the author achieves an incredible balance of romance and sex, making us see how these two aspects are entwined, finding the right words.
The author of this book of short stories was a pioneer in erotic literature and personals for older gay men. These stories are rich in the experience of the loves of older gay men, which is a theme that has only emerged in the gay world in recent years. Before, this area of gay experience was unexplored in what was a world for young men alone. Roland opens up a new dimension of gay love.
I was hoping for freshness and originality in this novel because it features gay sorcerers whose magic depends on sex, which is a plot device I haven't come across very often. I felt that the characters were all the same; handsome, horny, intelligent, and amiable. It was hard for me to tell them apart. I felt the sex scenes could have been much more arousing, but, as I said, the characters were interchangeable and the writing was cliché; all the sex acts seemed the same. I would have liked to see different acts associated with individual spells, for example. All in all, I was disappointed with the book, although if you want a quick, easy read with lots of explicit sex, this is your book.
This book contains a lot of information and covers the whole gamut when it comes to being gay. Some of the illustrations provided deal specifically with gay sex, while the remaining information discusses the gay lifestyle. The book is well written, has a great layout and is sensual, and maybe a bit erotic, without being classified as pornography. Even if we are familiar with portions of this book, it reminds us that there is more to us then just great sex!
I know one person who never got touched, November 8, 2011
6 kids. All adopted+ foster kids. Looks like there was no need to ever touch Mrs. Sandusky. So he touched some boys, big deal. RichRod raped an entire program
Completely misleading title, November 5, 2011
100% false advertising by Mr. Sandusky. Not a single page in this book "touches" on how to appropriately gain the trust of young, at-risk boys, and then use that trust to perpetrate horrifying sexual assaults on the very children who turned to you for guidance and support. Almost as disappointing as the first time I watched "Touched by an Angel." Don't even get me started on that bullcrap. I still can't watch anything with Della Reese in it.
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Disclaimer: I believe the allegations made in this case are reprehensible and, if true, all accused should be punished to the extent of the law.
That said, this scandal is reviving my favorite of grossly offensive joke genres: the pedo joke is back!
A judge is sentencing a pedo for some pretty horrific offenses. During his castigation of the convict as the worst scum of the earth and deserving of a loss of personal liberty for a long time, the judge asks, "How does 10-12 years sound?"
To which the pedo replies, "Sexy!"
A pedo is taking a kid for a walk in the woods. They get deep in the forest and the young boy says, "These woods are dark and scary." To which the pedo replies, "You think this is scary, I have to walk out of here alone."
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wes and JR - you two are going right to hell.
And apparently I am going with you.
**I removed this. Rather disappointed in myself. Nothing funny at all about the topic. Ever**
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You just repeated a joke aired by one of the dumber Finebaum regulars.
You have the option to retract it.
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You just repeated a joke aired by one of the dumber Finebaum regulars.
You have the option to retract it.
You just admitted to keeping up with the conversations of Finebaum regulars.
That has to be worse.
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You just repeated a joke aired by one of the dumber Finebaum regulars.
You have the option to retract it.
To have repeated it, I would have had to have heard it in the first place. I don't listen to Finebaum. Streaming radio is frowned upon in my work establishment and I don't have sat radio in my car. I read that on some blog. Apparently the Finebaum regular did also. Not my problem.
Plus, you just got punked by the resident bammer. Worth it.
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Emergency press conference scheduled for Penn State at 9pm central time.
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Rumor is that he's done. Won't coach another game.
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Wow. I'm shocked they fired him. He deserved it, but I'm shocked they had the nuts to do it.
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wes and JR - you two are going right to hell.
And apparently I am going with you.
**I removed this. Rather disappointed in myself. Nothing funny at all about the topic. Ever**
Would one of you mods fix this in the other threads? Thanks.
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To have repeated it, I would have had to have heard it in the first place. I don't listen to Finebaum. Streaming radio is frowned upon in my work establishment and I don't have sat radio in my car. I read that on some blog. Apparently the Finebaum regular did also. Not my problem.
Plus, you just got punked by the resident bammer. Worth it.
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
Listening yesterday to glean reaction to the show that I won't watch. You don't understand the meaning of the word punked.
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Definitely still not defending anyone, but just for my own clarification, do we know what exactly the GA saw in the shower? I mean, if he saw Sandusky fucking a kid in the mouth, then yeah, he's an utter POS for not beating his ass right then and there. But he reported "inappropriate behavior". I'm assuming that's more along the lines of he was chasing him around the shower or giggling with him or something that was just offputting, or something just didn't seem right.
I'm assuming somewhere down the line it became known for certain that he was diddling kids, but was this the moment?
I guess what I'm asking is, was Paterno told something along the lines of "Hey, that Sandusky dude was creeping me out the other day. Something just wasn't right", or was it "I saw this guy having sex with a child." As Pat Dye would say, hindsight is 50/50. Knowing what we know now, any sign that this dude was a creeper should have been dealt with, but in the real world if it was just vague "inappropriate behavior", is Paterno really such scum that his 60+ year legacy should be tarnished forever and this old man on the verge of death have to disgrace his name, family, and life's work over it?
At the same time, rushing to judgment on the other end is equally as stupid. These mobs holding vigils and shit for Paterno: It's entirely possible that you're holding demonstrations adamantly defending a child molester.
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Definitely still not defending anyone, but just for my own clarification, do we know what exactly the GA saw in the shower? I mean, if he saw Sandusky fucking a kid in the mouth, then yeah, he's an utter POS for not beating his ass right then and there. But he reported "inappropriate behavior". I'm assuming that's more along the lines of he was chasing him around the shower or giggling with him or something that was just offputting, or something just didn't seem right.
I'm assuming somewhere down the line it became known for certain that he was diddling kids, but was this the moment?
I guess what I'm asking is, was Paterno told something along the lines of "Hey, that Sandusky dude was creeping me out the other day. Something just wasn't right", or was it "I saw this guy having sex with a child." As Pat Dye would say, hindsight is 50/50. Knowing what we know now, any sign that this dude was a creeper should have been dealt with, but in the real world if it was just vague "inappropriate behavior", is he really such scum that his 60+ year legacy should be tarnished forever and this old man on the verge of death have to disgrace his name, family, and life's work over it?
At the same time, rushing to judgment on the other end is equally as stupid. These mobs holding vigils and shit for Paterno: It's entirely possible that you're holding demonstrations adamantly defending a child molester.
Paterno testified to the grand jury that the GA saw Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.
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Paterno testified to the grand jury that the GA saw Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.
And I think the GA testified to the grand jury that he witnessed Sandusky anally raping the kid.
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And I think the GA testified to the grand jury that he witnessed Sandusky anally raping the kid.
Link?
I'm not doubting, I just haven't seen anything less vague than "inappropriate behavior".
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Definitely still not defending anyone, but just for my own clarification, do we know what exactly the GA saw in the shower? I mean, if he saw Sandusky fucking a kid in the mouth, then yeah, he's an utter POS for not beating his ass right then and there.
Read the grand jury report, pp 6-7. The GA went to locker room late one night to put some new shoes in his locker. Surprised to hear showers running. Even more surprised to hear "rhythmic slapping noises" he perceived to be sexual in nature. He walked into showers to see a naked boy, approx. 10 yo, pressed face first against a shower, being subjected to anal intercourse by Jerry Sandusky, an adult well known to the GA. Both the boy and Sandusky saw him see them. The GA goes upstairs to his office, calls his dad, who tells him to leave the building. They talk at home and he calls Paterno the next morning. Paterno then toned down the statement he made to Curley and the other guy, saying GA saw Sandusky fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.
That GA, now a Penn State assistant coach, WALKED AWAY from a young boy being raped in a shower by an adult.
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GRAND JURY REPORT (http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Presentment.pdf)
I don't recommend reading it. It made me cry and feel utterly sick. Did not read it all.
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Twatter blowing up now saying Sandusky pimped out some of these kids to donors of his charity. Have not seen anything concrete yet.
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Link?
I'm not doubting, I just haven't seen anything less vague than "inappropriate behavior".
http://t.co/ePUQgw2Q (http://t.co/ePUQgw2Q)
If you haven't read this, be forewarned that it is stomach-turning.
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That's what I'm saying. Read the report and you'll have no sympathy for anyone in Pedo State administration.
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http://t.co/ePUQgw2Q (http://t.co/ePUQgw2Q)
If you haven't read this, be forewarned that it is stomach-turning.
It made me sick to my stomach...
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OK, yeah.
Holy shitballs.
I had only heard the part about Curley's testimoney about "inappropriate conduct" that "made him feel uncomfortable", and that there was "absolutely not" anal sex and it was merely "horsing around" as mentioned on page 8.
Didn't know the first part.
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That's what I'm saying. Read the report and you'll have no sympathy for anyone in Pedo State administration.
Like I've said previously: I'm willing in this one case to lay aside my adherence to "innocent until proven guilty" based upon the grand jury presentment.
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The only decent question, IMO, from the media at last night's presser, was "Is Mike Wassisface (the GA, can't remember his name) still an employee of PSU?"
That cowardly fuck should have been the first one fired and the first one charged. At first I thought maybe he was young and scared because he saw a respected coach doing something. But no. He was not some impressionable young 18 yo kid who would be scared of an older man in a position of authority over him. This fuck was TWENTY EIGHT YEARS OLD. And he WALKED AWAY from a kid being raped. How is THAT not a crime???
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OK, yeah.
Holy shitballs.
I had only heard the part about Curley's testimoney about "inappropriate conduct" that "made him feel uncomfortable", and that there was "absolutely not" anal sex and it was merely "horsing around" as mentioned on page 8.
Didn't know the first part.
Yeah, that's what Curley testified - and that's why he is being charged with lying to a Grand Jury. The report said the Grand Jury found the GA's testimony to be completely credible, and the testimony by Curley and the other VP to be NOT CREDIBLE.
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Just read on a Bama board that the GA also saw Cam take the money and that will come out at trial.
Damn
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Just read on a Bama board that the GA also saw Cam take the money and that will come out at trial.
Damn
Wow! How deep will this go?
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That cowardly fuck should have been the first one fired and the first one charged.
That's what I can't wrap my head around. He's the fucking recruiting coordinator. He needs to be fired motherfucking YESTERDAY.
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I just gchatted a girl I know that went to Penn State.
Not gonna prod cause I know it's a sensitive subject for them right now. Just curious what she'd say about it if I got her started.
me: Man...
I'm sorry for what's goin down
it's gotta suck
her: yeah im pretty upset
me: I can imagine
Sent at 9:38 AM on Thursday
her: i think everything was handled horribly...that school is going to have a huge problem on thier hands with all those students. You dont fire a coach like joe paterno over the phone.
Sent at 9:41 AM on Thursday
her: i mean the school had to do what they did...its the way that it was handled thats terrible. And its partly the media's fault. All the focus was on jopa...not jeff sandusky or curly or the others involved in the cover up. it was all on joe so the school had to focus on joe.
me: yeah
really crazy
her: I mean we're talking about a coach that was an educator as much as a coach. when you came to play football for jopa, you left a better man, you left with an education and oppurtunities in life over than football....
did you know that penn state has had at least a 85% graduation rate amoung football players....for 6 decades! second only to northeastern with is ivyleague
AND under Jopa, pennstate has had 47 all american academics! thats the 3rd highest following two ivy leagues
boys leave there with a sense of purpose and with an oppurtunity to succeed. he cares about his players past just football.
itll be sad to loose him...bc NO ONE else will ever care about their players like he did. no one. He was offered NFL head coaching positions twice in his career..and he turned them down bc he truly enjoyed teaching boys to become great men.
you just dont fire a coach like that over the phone...you just dont! especially when theyre doing it before any of the facts get clear!
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Did the wind ruffle her hair as the point sailed far, far above that melon of hers?
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I hope she's hot cause smart she ain't.
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PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
Listening yesterday to glean reaction to the show that I won't watch. You don't understand the meaning of the word punked.
SSSSooooooo.......
You won't watch the Auburn/Bama show because it is biased, features too many redneck fans, and has too much Finebaum.........but you will listen to Finebaum who is biased, has the same redneck fans, and has Finebaum on continuously?
My head hurts.
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Did the wind ruffle her hair as the point sailed far, far above that melon of hers?
I chuckled
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Twatter blowing up now saying Sandusky pimped out some of these kids to donors of his charity. Have not seen anything concrete yet.
If true....Damn...just damn.....it seems to get worse at every turn.
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Good stuff from Mike and Mike this morning.
- Feds are getting involved due to the possible (nearly certain) violation of Cleary (sp?) Act which says that crimes reported on college campuses must be reported to the Dept of Education and the student body must be alerted to possibly dangerous criminals that have committed crimes on or near campus (example: you should get an email or other notice about a bank robbery and the corner of Magnolia and College and College so you can avoid the area). Possible ramifications is loss of government funds for the University.
- Former Penn St LB and current Jacksonville Jaguar Paul Poszlusky (sp?) said that as a freshmen in 2003 (the GA witnessed the shower scene in 2002) until his senior season Sandusky was a "constant fixture" in the athletic facilities on campus. He had heard nothing about the possible incident.
- Matt Millen (former LB at Penn St, Sandusky was his position coach) said that Penn St absolutely did the right thing in telling Joe Pa to hit the skids.
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Good stuff from Mike and Mike this morning.
- Feds are getting involved due to the possible (nearly certain) violation of Cleary (sp?) Act which says that crimes reported on college campuses must be reported to the Dept of Education and the student body must be alerted to possibly dangerous criminals that have committed crimes on or near campus (example: you should get an email or other notice about a bank robbery and the corner of Magnolia and College and College so you can avoid the area). Possible ramifications is loss of government funds for the University.
- Former Penn St LB and current Jacksonville Jaguar Paul Poszlusky (sp?) said that as a freshmen in 2003 (the GA witnessed the shower scene in 2002) until his senior season Sandusky was a "constant fixture" in the athletic facilities on campus. He had heard nothing about the possible incident.
This is where the shit it going to get serious. Fuck the football team. This is WAY deeper than football. This is a state and federally funded institution that is about to get searched inside and out. This is about to blow up.
And I hope it fucks up Alabama's SOS...
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Good stuff from Mike and Mike this morning.
- Feds are getting involved due to the possible (nearly certain) violation of Cleary (sp?) Act which says that crimes reported on college campuses must be reported to the Dept of Education and the student body must be alerted to possibly dangerous criminals that have committed crimes on or near campus (example: you should get an email or other notice about a bank robbery and the corner of Magnolia and College and College so you can avoid the area). Possible ramifications is loss of government funds for the University.
- Former Penn St LB and current Jacksonville Jaguar Paul Poszlusky (sp?) said that as a freshmen in 2003 (the GA witnessed the shower scene in 2002) until his senior season Sandusky was a "constant fixture" in the athletic facilities on campus. He had heard nothing about the possible incident.
- Matt Millen (former LB at Penn St, Sandusky was his position coach) said that Penn St absolutely did the right thing in telling Joe Pa to hit the skids.
Forgot to add one more thing. During JoePa's "retirement" statement yesterday he said "I wish I had done more". According to a lawyer that was on the show, this means that he could have done more and knew it. This means the university could have done more and knew it. This means some lawyers for some messed up kids is about to make it rain.
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Posted: Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:55 pm | Updated: 4:34 pm, Mon Apr 4, 2011.
Madden: Sandusky a State secret Mark Madden Timesonline.com | 14 comments
The Jerry Sandusky situation seems a matter of failure to connect certain dots, or perhaps unwillingness in that regard. Lots of people besides the former Penn State defensive coordinator have some explaining to do.
Allegations of improper conduct with an underage male first surfaced in 1998, while Sandusky was still employed by Penn State. That incident allegedly occurred in a shower at Penn State's on-campus football facility. No charges were filed.
Sandusky retired the next year, in 1999. He was 55, prime age for a coach. Odd, to say the least - especially with Joe Paterno thought even then to be ready to quit and Sandusky a likely, openly-discussed successor.
It seems logical to ask: What did Paterno know, and when did he know it? What did Penn State's administration know, and when did they know it?
Best-case scenario: Charges are never brought, and Sandusky walks away with his reputation permanently scarred. The rumors, the jokes, the sideways glances - they won't ever stop. Paterno and Penn State do the great escape.
Worst-case scenario: Sandusky is charged. Then it seems reasonable to wonder: Did Penn State not make an issue of Sandusky's alleged behavior in 1998 in exchange for him walking away from the program at an age premature for most coaches? Did Penn State's considerable influence help get Sandusky off the hook?
Don't kid yourself. That could happen. Don't underestimate the power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it comes to politicians, the police and the media.
In 1999, Penn State was rid of Sandusky. His rep was unblemished, which allowed him to continue running a charitable foundation that gave him access to underage males. To be a volunteer assistant with a high school football team, thus gaining access to underage males.
If Paterno and Penn State knew, but didn't act, instead facilitating Sandusky's untroubled retirement - are Paterno and Penn State responsible for untoward acts since committed by Sandusky?
This is far from an outrageous hypothesis, especially given the convenient timeline.
Initially accused in 1998. Retires in 1999. Never coaches college football again. Sandusky was very successful at what he did. The architect of Linebacker U. Helped win national championships in 1982 and 1986. Recognized as college football's top assistant in 1986 and 1999.
Never any stories about Sandusky being pursued for a high-profile job. Never any rumors about him coming out of retirement.
But there's no shortage of stories and rumors about Penn State football sweeping problems under the rug, is there?
Why did college football let an accomplished coach like Sandusky walk away at 55? Why did he disappear into relative anonymity?
A grand jury, spurred by a complaint made by a 15-year-old boy in 2009, has been investigating Sandusky for 18 months. Witnesses include Paterno and Penn State athletic director Tim Curley. Interviewing Paterno about a subject like this had to have been one of the single most uncomfortable acts in the history of jurisprudence.
Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of a few kids?
You might not want to hear the answer.
Mark Madden hosts a radio show 3-6 p.m. weekdays on WXDX-FM (105.9).
http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html
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Good stuff from Mike and Mike this morning.
- Feds are getting involved due to the possible (nearly certain) violation of Cleary (sp?) Act which says that crimes reported on college campuses must be reported to the Dept of Education and the student body must be alerted to possibly dangerous criminals that have committed crimes on or near campus (example: you should get an email or other notice about a bank robbery and the corner of Magnolia and College and College so you can avoid the area). Possible ramifications is loss of government funds for the University.
- Former Penn St LB and current Jacksonville Jaguar Paul Poszlusky (sp?) said that as a freshmen in 2003 (the GA witnessed the shower scene in 2002) until his senior season Sandusky was a "constant fixture" in the athletic facilities on campus. He had heard nothing about the possible incident.
- Matt Millen (former LB at Penn St, Sandusky was his position coach) said that Penn St absolutely did the right thing in telling Joe Pa to hit the skids.
Part of that reminded me of a visit we took to Troy when my daughter was looking at different schools. We got in a golf cart with this little 18 year old girl who takes us around campus pointing everything out. "Over there is the science building where they teach, like..science. That's the chemistry building and...I'm not sure what goes on in there."
We go through a parking lot and there's a police call button on a post. She pulls up beside it and says, "And that's a button you press to get the police in case you're ever like, getting raped or something....but we don't get a lot of that here."
Okaayyyy....scratch Troy off the list.
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I hope she's hot cause smart she ain't.
Agree, 100%.
I usually have the same views as Wes with innocent until proven guilty, but this shit...
Firing squad.
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Part of that reminded me of a visit we took to Troy when my daughter was looking at different schools. We got in a golf cart with this little 18 year old girl who takes us around campus pointing everything out. "Over there is the science building where they teach, like..science. That's the chemistry building and...I'm not sure what goes on in there."
We go through a parking lot and there's a police call button on a post. She pulls up beside it and says, "And that's a button you press to get the police in case you're ever like, getting raped or something....but we don't get a lot of that here."
Okaayyyy....scratch Troy off the list.
WTF are you talking about? Pike county's finest would be responding within the hour.
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Soooo...the trial started today.
Some twats about the early revelations:
Ross Levitt â€@cnnross
BOMBSHELL from the AM session: prosecutors say Dottie Sandusky, Jerry's wife, walked in on Jerry and alleged victim during a sexual act.
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Bruce Feldman â€@BFeldmanCBS
Wow..Sandusky's attorney to jurors: "there are no victims in this case until you come to a verdict." http://bit.ly/Kxaw71
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Gregg Doyel â€@GreggDoyelCBS
Heartbreaking MT @OnwardState: Victim 4 regrets not reporting Sandusky earlier: "I feel responsible for what happened to other victims"
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â€@SPORTSbyBROOKS
As noted by @sganim: Sandusky created "contract" w/ Victim #4 guaranteeing relationship in exchange for $. Actual document shown to jury.[/u]
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Andrew Brandt â€@adbrandt
RT @cnnross: prosecutors say Dottie Sandusky, Jerry's wife, walked in on Jerry and alleged victim during a sexual act.
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Onward State â€@OnwardState
#Sandusky said in a letter to Victim 4, “I pretend many things, but I can’t pretend my feelings for you.â€
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SportsPickle â€@sportspickle
Sandusky's lawyer says his client has done nothing criminal. So I guess we can wrap this all up. What a relief!
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Sara Ganim â€@sganim
#Sandusky had asterisks next to victim names on lists of second mile children, prosecutor said
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Courtney Brennan â€@WPXI_Courtney
#Sandusky will testify that he grew up in a culture where it was routine to shower with boys even if many of us think that's strange. #wpxi
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Bill Maher â€@billmaher
Prosecutors in Jerry Sandusky trial say they have love letters he sent to kids. That's so creepy. Who writes letters?
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Early indications seem to suggest that Jerry will be the one taking it in the ass on this one! Fuck sakes, his wife walked in on him! :facepalm:
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Saw a blurb today where his defense guy is claiming he has a personality disorder...
No shit, Sherlock. He's a serial pedo.
Can see why his defense guy is grasping at straws tho. Not a prayer of acquittal. Just damage control, at this point, and damn little hope of that either.
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Michael McQueary is proof positive that gingers have no souls.
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Michael McQueary is proof positive that gingers have no souls.
And I thought I loved you.
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And I thought I loved you.
But you aren't capable because you have no soul? ;)
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But you aren't capable because you have no soul? ;)
Ima get that soul. Oh yes I am!!
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http://www.wwltv.com/news/national/Sandusky-attorney-compares-trial-to-soap-opera-All-My-Children-159562045.html
Sandusky attorney compares trial to soap opera ‘All My Children’
BELLEFONTE, PA
wwltv.com
Posted on June 19, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Mark Scolforo and Generac Armas / The Associated Press
BELLEFONTE, Pa. -- Jerry Sandusky's defense attorney compared the former Penn State assistant coach's high-profile child sex-abuse trial to a soap opera on Tuesday, telling reporters to "stay tuned" to find out if Sandusky would take the stand in his own defense.
Asked what soap opera he'd compare the trial to, defense attorney Joe Amendola initially said "General Hospital," then "All My Children."
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:facepalm:
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Years ago, I was pretty much a fan of both General Hospital and All My Chirrenz. I don't recall anyone having anal sex with young boys on either of those shows. But then, I haven't watched in a long time.
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It kills me how many times you see this happen with pedos - they are just so indignant and upset that people think what they do is wrong! They are so convinced of the rightness of their actions that they make a mockery of the judicial system by going to trial even in the face of overwhelming evidence against them. I guess they get a bonus stiffy by forcing their victims to relive every sick moment all over again. They force their attorneys to mount the world's most ridiculous defenses (rare psychiactric disorder where he has no self control and he chooses to rape kids? Spare me.) They put their own families through absolute hell.
It is the height of selfishness and sociopathy. Kill them all.
Speaking of, why is a case this severe NOT a capital crime? One victim - could be isolated, or spontaneous, so life in prison, no parole.
A serial pedo, one who planned and schemed and used a charitable foundation to hide the depravity of his actions - malice aforethought, premeditation, the worst act you can do to a child short of death - capital offense.
Sandusky is no better than Ted Bundy and he got zapped.
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Get ready for a disaster of biblical proportion if they do put him on the stand.
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It kills me how many times you see this happen with pedos - they are just so indignant and upset that people think what they do is wrong! They are so convinced of the rightness of their actions that they make a mockery of the judicial system by going to trial even in the face of overwhelming evidence against them. I guess they get a bonus stiffy by forcing their victims to relive every sick moment all over again. They force their attorneys to mount the world's most ridiculous defenses (rare psychiactric disorder where he has no self control and he chooses to rape kids? Spare me.) They put their own families through absolute hell.
It is the height of selfishness and sociopathy. Kill them all.
Speaking of, why is a case this severe NOT a capital crime? One victim - could be isolated, or spontaneous, so life in prison, no parole.
A serial pedo, one who planned and schemed and used a charitable foundation to hide the depravity of his actions - malice aforethought, premeditation, the worst act you can do to a child short of death - capital offense.
Sandusky is no better than Ted Bundy and he got zapped.
Just put him in general population at a federal prison. Let him get the Jeffrey Dahmer treatment.
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It never ceases to amaze me how much of this stuff is out there. Front page today in our happy little town....2 separate guys sentenced...one a 31 year old who anal raped a 12 year old boy multiple times over a year...the other a 20 year old who did the same to a young retahded girl. What the fickity frick, people?
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a young retahded girl.
To be fair, y'all do have a disproportional amount of those down there.
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To be fair, y'all do have a disproportional amount of those down there.
Yes, but you can't sodomize them until they're at least 18. At least that's my rule of thumb.
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It never ceases to amaze me how much of this stuff is out there. Front page today in our happy little town....2 separate guys sentenced...one a 31 year old who anal raped a 12 year old boy multiple times over a year...the other a 20 year old who did the same to a young retahded girl. What the fickity frick, people?
There's a ghost in my pants. There's a ghost in my pants.
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Yes, but you can't sodomize them until they're at least 18. At least that's my rule of thumb.
Rule of thumb? Now we can't do much damage with that now can we? Perhaps they should have made it more the width of the wrist.
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Get ready for a disaster of biblical proportion if they do put him on the stand.
Indeed. I would like to think his attorney isn't that dumb...but I am always proven wrong.
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Hell, what does he have to lose? So far, it's been a week solid of "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me". So, you put Sandusky on and he says..."No I didn't" "No I didn't" "No I didn't "No I didn't...well, maybe him, just that one time..but I didn't enjoy it."
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Hell, what does he have to lose? So far, it's been a week solid of "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me". So, you put Sandusky on and he says..."No I didn't" "No I didn't" "No I didn't "No I didn't...well, maybe him, just that one time..but I didn't enjoy it."
:rofl:
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Yes, but you can't sodomize them until they're at least 18. At least that's my rule of thumb.
16 in Alabama. God bless our wonderful state.
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Hell, what does he have to lose? So far, it's been a week solid of "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me". So, you put Sandusky on and he says..."No I didn't" "No I didn't" "No I didn't "No I didn't...well, maybe him, just that one time..but I didn't enjoy it."
His attorney is doing just enough to make it look like he is doing something. He still has to make a living around there...
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So far, it's been a week solid of "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me" "He buttfucked me".
That sounds like a great week-long vacation.
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That sounds like a great week-long vacation.
Damn son, what took you so long?
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Damn son, what took you so long?
I was too busy getting buttfucked to comment on buttfuckery.
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That sounds like a great week-long vacation.
:bugs:
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Years ago, I was pretty much a fan of both General Hospital and All My Chirrenz. I don't recall anyone having anal sex with young boys on either of those shows. But then, I haven't watched in a long time.
So, you quit watching due to the lack of boybuggery?
Perhaps General Hospitl dn All My Children were Freudian slips by the attorney, since Sandusky obviously would prefer to see Genitals on All My Children?
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There's a ghost in my pants. There's a ghost in my pants.
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Perhaps General Hospitl dn All My Children were Freudian slips by the attorney, since Sandusky obviously would prefer to see Genitals on All My Children?
Nah. Sandusky was a big fan of The Young and The Shirtless.
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Thank you for picking me up sir.
Obviously the only miscreant around here with any cooth.
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Closing arguments.
http://deadspin.com/5919859/?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151840390285072&set=a.10151454738860072.831822.436749055071&type=1&theater
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Closing arguments.
http://deadspin.com/5919859/?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151840390285072&set=a.10151454738860072.831822.436749055071&type=1&theater
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LULZ!
https://twitter.com/Ben_Jones88/status/215475147371577344
@Ben_Jones88
Pedobear is holding a press conference for about ten reporters. I give up.
https://twitter.com/Ben_Jones88/status/215478955526979585
@Ben_Jones88
Because this is what today has amounted to. The Pedobear Presser.
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Thank you for picking me up sir.
Obviously the only miscreant around here with any cooth.
Never leave a brother hanging.
I have it on good authority that most of the "men" on here watch soap operas, which explains their knack for staring at fastballs right down the middle of the plate.
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Never leave a brother hanging.
I have it on good authority that most of the "men" on here watch soap operas, which explains their knack for staring at fastballs right down the middle of the plate.
My soap operas come with zombies. So, it's totally butched up.
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My soap operas come with zombies. So, it's totally butched up.
I've never watched that one or the one with the Conan the Barbarian looking people in the snow. Are you a viewer of both?
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I've never watched that one or the one with the Conan the Barbarian looking people in the snow. Are you a viewer of both?
I guess you mean Game of Thrones? I have never seen it.
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God damn, the hits keep coming with this guy...
He has got to be the most vile, depraved, reprehensible motherfucker ever to have lived.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/21/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-trial/index.html
Bellefonte, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- Matt Sandusky, an adopted son of Jerry Sandusky, said through his attorney Thursday that he was also a victim of the former coach's sexual abuse, adding that he had been prepared to testify for the prosecution.
"At Matt's request, we immediately arranged a meeting between him and the prosecutors and investigators," attorneys Andrew Shubin and Justine Andronici said in a statement. "This has been an extremely painful experience for Matt and he has asked us to convey his request that the media respect his privacy."
The child rape case against Sandusky, who faces accusations of sexual abuse involving 10 alleged victims, is now wrapping up and is in the hands of a jury.
Jurors began deliberations Thursday, after a week of testimony but without having heard from the former Penn State defensive coordinator on the witness stand.
During closing arguments, defense attorney Joe Amendola sought to poke holes in the prosecution's case, pointing to inconsistencies with the testimony of Mike McQueary, a former graduate student and assistant coach who said he saw Sandusky apparently sodomizing a boy in a university shower.
He also reminded jurors of the lack of physical evidence and accused the alleged victims of conspiring for financial gain while blaming the media for what he described as biased coverage.
Final defense witness is not Sandusky
What else Sandusky said to Costas
Sandusky's wife: I didn't see any abuse
What will jury do with Jerry Sandusky?
During the arguments, Sandusky's wife, Dottie, was seen quietly crying.
Lead prosecutor Joseph McGettigan followed Amendola, rebuffing the defense's account of a coordinated action among Sandusky's accusers allegedly bent on financial gain.
"The great thing about conspiracy theories is you just let them go on and on, until they collapse under their own weight," he said.
McGettigan described the former coach as a pedophile who systematically preyed on his victims with a calculated and repeated approach.
"The Commonwealth has overwhelming evidence against Mr. Sandusky," he said.
Earlier Thursday, Judge John Cleland announced that three of the counts were dropped against the former coach, bringing the total number of charges to 48.
He told jurors that all three counts pertain to "alleged victim 4," while the defense further petitioned to have all counts related to "alleged victim 8" dismissed as well.
Cleland said one count of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse duplicated another charge. Two other counts -- one of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and another of aggravated indecent assault -- were not supported by testimony and the evidence presented, Cleland found.
One of the original 52 counts was also dropped earlier this week because the statute on which that charge was based wasn't in effect on the date of the alleged incident. His accuser said it occurred in 1995 or 1996, but the unlawful contact with a minor statute didn't apply until 1997.
The defense rested Wednesday, with the former coach never taking the stand.
Amendola had told reporters to "stay tuned" to see whether the former defensive coordinator would testify. It was thought his testimony could provide an opening for prosecutors to introduce new evidence against the former coach.
Sandusky, 68, pleaded not guilty to charges of child sex abuse over a 15-year period.
The prosecution had called its only rebuttal witness Tuesday, to counter testimony that raised questions about Sandusky's mental health.
What Sandusky has said about child rape allegations
Dr. Elliot Atkins testified that he diagnosed Sandusky with histrionic personality disorder, part of a class of conditions called dramatic personality disorders, which are marked by unstable emotions and distorted self-images. But a second psychologist, prosecution witness Dr. John O'Brien, disputed those findings, saying that the "personality profile Mr. Sandusky exhibited was within normal limits."
At least one trial observer had said there had been good reason for the defense to call the former coach to the stand. Veteran criminal defense attorney Ron Kuby said Sandusky is facing a "tsunami of evidence against him" and suggested that his taking the stand may be a way to help his case.
"Just maybe he can convince one juror to hold out," Kuby said before the defense rested. "A hung jury, right now, is a lot better than life without parole."
However, some court observers had said that if Sandusky were to testify, prosecutors could submit as new evidence a TV interview the ex-coach had with NBC sportscaster Bob Costas.
In a portion of the interview that was not part of the original November broadcast, Sandusky told Costas that he "didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped." There are likely "many young people who would come forward and say that my methods and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life," Sandusky said.
On Wednesday, the defense called Dr. Jonathan Dranov, an acquaintance of McQueary's, who told jurors that the former assistant coach told him he heard "sexual sounds" and saw the boy in the shower when an arm reached around him but, did not actually see a sexual encounter. Sandusky then emerged from the shower area, he said.
That account is different from what McQueary described in his testimony. He said that he witnessed Sandusky pressing against the boy in the shower and that it seemed obvious that he had been raping him.
Before Wednesday's testimony, one juror was dismissed and replaced because of illness. Prosecutors wrapped up their case Monday after eight of the 10 accusers were called to the stand, among other witnesses.
All you need to know about allegations, how case unraveled
On Tuesday, Sandusky's wife told jurors that she could remember at least six of her husband's accusers staying overnight at their house and said she did not witness any sexual abuse.
Dottie Sandusky recalled that one of the accusers had once traveled with them to a bowl game in San Antonio, Texas, where she and her husband shared a hotel room with the boy.
Many of the accusers testified that they knew Dottie Sandusky, who is not accused of having witnessed the alleged abuse.
She testified that children would often sleep at the Sanduskys' house and that "we would give them a choice of where they wanted to sleep."
Her husband also was the one to put the children to bed, typically, she said. She told jurors that "he would go downstairs and tell them good night."
The final prosecution witness testified Monday that her son seemed to suffer from stomach ailments during the times he was visiting Sandusky and sometimes did not want to visit the former Penn State assistant's home.
But she said she didn't ask him about any possible abuse and still does not know what happened to him.
"I didn't really want to hear," she said, crying.
The defense then opened its case with a former Penn State coach who testified about Sandusky's stellar reputation in the community.
Richard Anderson said that it was not uncommon for coaches and youths to use the shower at the same time and that he had never seen anything inappropriate between Sandusky and a child.
The defense called five other witnesses who supported the view of Sandusky's good reputation in the community.
"A lot of people lied," Amendola said in his opening statement.
Several prosecution witnesses testified that Sandusky forced them to engage in sexual acts with him in various places, including showers in the Penn State coaches' locker room, hotel rooms and the basement of his home.
One told jurors that Sandusky -- whom he met, like many of the accusers, through the Second Mile nonprofit for disadvantaged youths that the ex-coach founded -- had threatened him if he told others about the abuse.
Another said Sandusky warned he might send him home from a trip to Texas, where they'd gone to watch a Penn State bowl game.
The defense challenged the accusers' timetable, questioning whether Sandusky could have committed the crimes they claim he did when they say he did.
'The Sandusky 8' describe seduction, molestation and betrayal
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I'm thinking that "Honk if you showered with Jerry Sandusky" bumper stickers would be a hot selling item.
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I'm thinking that "Honk Testify if you showered with Jerry Sandusky" bumper stickers would be a hot selling item.
Edited.
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I'm thinking that "Honk if you showered with Jerry Sandusky" bumper stickers would be a hot selling item.
I dig your sense of humor.
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What do Jerry Sandusky and McDonalds have in common?
They both stick their meat in 10 year old buns
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What do Jerry Sandusky and McDonalds have in common?
They both stick their meat in 10 year old buns
What did the fat bammer chick say to Sandusky on the beach?
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**sigh**
Interesting ruling today. The judge has ruled that NO reports are to be made about the verdict until the court has officially adjourned. No one will be allowed to leave the courtroom, windows will be closed, no electronic devices, sheriff deputies at the door, and if someone posts the verdict prior to the official adjournment time noted in the court record, that reporter and the organization they work for will be sanctioned.
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What did the fat bammer chick say to Sandusky on the beach?
Roll Tahd?
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What did the fat bammer chick say to Sandusky on the beach?
Either a) "Stick it in my blow hole before they try to push me back in the water.", or b) nothing - because Sandusky liked the little boys.
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Guilty on forty five counts. Justice.
Rot in hell.
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Roll Tahd?
:rofl:
Get out of my son.
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Either a) "Stick it in my blow hole before they try to push me back in the water.", or b) nothing - because Sandusky liked the little boys.
:rofl:
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I wonder what that perv was thinking, as he walked out of his house tonight, knowing it would be the very last time he ever sat foot in it. The last time he ever interacted with his family without three inch plate glass between them. The last time he wore real clothes, did anything in private, ate real food.
I hope he was afraid.
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I wonder what that perv was thinking, as he walked out of his house tonight, knowing it would be the very last time he ever sat foot in it. The last time he ever interacted with his family without three inch plate glass between them. The last time he wore real clothes, did anything in private, ate real food.
I hope he was afraid.
If he wasn't afraid as he was walking out of the Court House...he will be when he walks into the prison grounds. Child Molesters don't last long in prison, neither do former Police Officers/State Troopers (I really hope updyke gets sent to a Maximum Facility in Texas, I'm sure there are some prisoners that might remember him as the State Trooper that put them there).
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If he wasn't afraid as he was walking out of the Court House...he will be when he walks into the prison grounds. Child Molesters don't last long in prison, neither do former Police Officers/State Troopers (I really hope updyke gets sent to a Maximum Facility in Texas, I'm sure there are some prisoners that might remember him as the State Trooper that put them there).
How would they do that?
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How would they do that?
You put him on an airplane with Ving Rhames, Nic Cage, and John Malkovich, and the worst security in the world and fly him there. Duh.
Unless you were talking about legally, then it probably won't happen.
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How would they do that?
Because he is high a risk inmate. I think he ends up in an institution for the criminally insane.
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Because he is high a risk inmate. I think he ends up in an institution for the criminally insane.
Highly doubtful. He's "crazy" but not legally insane IMHO. If Updyke is convicted, he goes to prison.
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Because he is high a risk inmate. I think he ends up in an institution for the criminally insane.
Governor William J. Le Petomane could probably arrange it.
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Governor William J. Le Petomane could probably arrange it.
We'll work up a Number 6 on 'em.
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We'll work up a Number 6 on 'em.
You spare the women?
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You spare the women?
No we rape the shit outta of them
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The biggest victim in all this? Well...you know...not the biggest victim...maybe in a literal sense...
http://www.baltimoremagazine.net/chatter/2012/06/baltimores-gerry-sandusky-is-hopeful
June 26th, 2012 - 1:18 pm
Baltimore's Gerry Sandusky is hopeful
By Suzanne Loudermilk
Gerry SanduskyNow that the Jerry with a "J" Sandusky trial has ended, WBAL sportscaster Gerry with a "G" Sandusky thinks the name shame may be almost over for him. He is no relation to the former Penn State coach.
In a MediaBistro FishbowlDC report yesterday, he said, "That name that sounds like mine is attached to a heinous crime. In another month, some other story will be much bigger than this."
It's about time. Our managing editor Max Weiss first blogged about Gerry "not THAT guy" Sandusky's awful name coincidence last November. He's been dealing with the infamy since then.
Gerry recently tweeted, "I really do appreciate those of you who have helped me inform the world of the powerful difference between the letter G and the letter J."
But he's still proud of his surname, he told FishbowlDC: "When I say my name, I think of my mom and my dad and how much I love them."
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thats gonna leave a mark....
Paterno empowered a predator
By Gene Wojciechowski
ESPN.com
Joe lied. It's that simple. And that heartbreaking.
Joe Paterno, who for so many decades represented all that was good and honorable in college athletics, lied. Through his teeth.
According to the 267-page Freeh report, Paterno lied -- to a grand jury, no less -- about his knowledge of a 1998 sexual assault of a young boy (Victim 6) by longtime Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky in a football facility shower.
His lies and, worse yet, his silence from the time of that first reported assault in 1998 helped empower a sexual predator for the next 13 years. Paterno did nothing to stop Sandusky. He was, said former FBI director Louis Freeh, who wrote the report, "an integral part of this active decision to conceal."
Paterno despised weakness in his players, yet he was the one who took part in and, it can be reasonably argued, helped orchestrate a comprehensive cover-up by university president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and school vice president Gary Schultz.
"The facts are the facts," Freeh said.
And the facts, as uncovered and determined by more than 430 interviews and 3.5 million pieces of examined emails and documentation, detail a "total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky's child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State."
Paterno was one of those leaders. In many ways, he was the leader of Penn State, both symbolically and in terms of real-time power. Asked if Paterno had the ability to stop a "culture of concealment," Freeh said, "I think it's a very strong and reasonable inference that he could have done so if he wished."
Instead, he lied. And by doing so, Paterno betrayed himself, his legacy, his university and, most of all, the children who were victims of Sandusky's serial pedophilia.
May 13, 1998, 2:21 p.m. Curley emailed Schultz 10 days after Victim 6 was assaulted by Sandusky in the shower.
"Anything new in this department? Coach is anxious to know where it stands."
Coach Joe Paterno.
Jan. 12, 2011. Paterno testifies before the grand jury.
Question to Paterno: "Other than the [2001] incident that Mike McQueary reported to you, do you know in any way, through rumor, direct knowledge or any other fashion, of any other inappropriate sexual conduct by Jerry Sandusky with young boys?"
Paterno: "I do not know of anything else that Jerry would be involved in of that nature, no. I do not know of it. You did mention -- I think you said something about a rumor. It may have been discussed in my presence, something else about somebody. I don't know. I don't remember, and I could not honestly say I heard a rumor."
Paterno knew. Spanier knew. Curley knew. Schultz knew.
Now we know.
The Paterno family insists that the all-time winningest coach in major college football history was deceived and fooled by Sandusky, that JoePa had a blind spot that lasted from 1998 to 2011.
"To think, however, that [Paterno] would have protected Jerry Sandusky to avoid bad publicity is simply not realistic," said the family in its Thursday statement.
Really? Why not? Because the Paternos say so?
Paterno could have spoken out in 1998, but didn't. He could have spoken out in 2001, but didn't. Whatever his motives, he did nothing or, in the case of the 2001 assault incident witnessed by McQueary, he did the absolute minimum.
If anything, it's unrealistic to think that the most powerful person on campus -- Paterno -- wasn't aware, on some level, of Sandusky's behavior, or that there was much to be lost if the situation reached critical mass.
"To his credit," said Freeh in his introductory remarks, "Mr. Paterno stated on Nov. 9, 2011, 'With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.'"
More? How about anything? According to the report, Spanier, Schultz, Curley and Paterno never alerted the school's board of trustees about the 1998 incident and investigation.
"None of them even spoke to Sandusky about his conduct," the report said. "In short, nothing was done and Sandusky was allowed to continue with impunity."
Or to put it less discreetly, he was allowed to continue to rape young boys.
Added the report: "None of these four men took any responsible action after [the] February 2001 [incident] ... "
Paterno died nearly seven months ago and can't defend himself. But those emails, the grand jury testimony, the facts uncovered by the Freeh report speak for him. And they say that Paterno was a man undone by, of all things, an inability to do the right thing.
He is not a scapegoat. The Freeh report was critical of the entire Penn State hierarchy, from Paterno, to Spanier, to Curley, to Schultz, to the trustees, to even the football facility janitors who were terrified of being fired if they reported what they saw Sandusky do to young boys.
He was not a victim. The real victims had designated numbers at Sandusky's trial. But Paterno was an enabler.
"It's a person with a terrific legacy, a great legacy," Freeh said, "who brought huge value not just to the university but to the program. He, as someone once said, made perhaps the worst mistake of his life. But we're not singling him out."
Penn State's leaders, most notably Paterno, failed their constituency. When strength was needed, they were weak. When action was required, they were cowards.
At the moment, I couldn't care less if Penn State removes the Paterno statue at Beaver Stadium, or if the school decides to shut down its football program, or if the NCAA decides to impose its own penalties.
All I can think of are those children who lost their innocence to the evilness of Sandusky.
And that Joe lied.
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Came in late and didn't feel like reading this whole thread. What's going on at Penn State?
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thats gonna leave a mark....
That entire Freeh report was unreal. Penn State is done for a while.
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That entire Freeh report was unreal. Penn State is done for a while.
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Honestly, they should take away their accreditation. Fuck, we got put on probation and this isn't even in the same realm.
This isn't just football this is the whole damn University.
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Oh....SNIZZAP
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So...uh...JoePa knew about Sandusky's kiddy-diddling way back in 1976.
http://deadspin.com/court-opinion-reveals-joe-paterno-reportedly-knew-of-je-1775014993?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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So...uh...JoePa knew about Sandusky's kiddy-diddling way back in 1976.
http://deadspin.com/court-opinion-reveals-joe-paterno-reportedly-knew-of-je-1775014993?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Yeah saw that this am, Paterno FAmily Response
"Because of a single sentence in a court record of an insurance case, Joe Paterno's reputation has once again been smeared with an unsubstantiated, forty year old allegation. In response to this allegation and the subsequent media hype, the Paterno family is demanding a full public review of the facts.
"From day one, Joe Paterno and his family have called for an objective and total pursuit of the truth with a full respect for due process. In 2011 and 2012 Joe Paterno was subjected to an unprecedented rush to justice by Louis Freeh and the NCAA. Time has proven that the Freeh report was deeply flawed and the unprecedented punitive actions of the NCAA were unjustified. Over the past four and a half years, numerous allegations that were taken as fact when they were initially communicated have been proven false. It is in this context that the latest claim should be viewed.
"The reckless, all-out rush to accept accusations as legitimate without a full fair review of the facts, cannot be allowed to happen again. Fighting shadows and rumors on issues that are this significant is a disservice to everyone who cares about the truth. We do not fear the truth, we embrace it. And we will not allow a repeat of what happened before. We challenge anyone with evidence of misconduct to come forward and present their allegations in a process that allows a full, fair review of the evidence. We will stand by the facts, but we will never accept veiled accusations presented in a context where they cannot be objectively reviewed and analyzed."
"If anything has been learned from the Sandusky tragedy it should be that rushed investigations do incredible harm. For once, a fair process should come before conclusions are reached."
Pretty bad all around. This guy went unchecked for so many years. He continues to claim innocence.
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Was meaning to revisit this and got sidetracked.
The goddamned university president convicted of child endangerment. Either prong of the offense requires knowledge of the danger.
The propriety of the NCAA's involvement has been discussed, but certainly if the football team is allowed to operate/prosper but for the kiddie rape, then a competitive advantage has been realized.
A conviction which requires the jury to acknowledge that the university president knew of such kiddie rape surely screams "lack of institutional control," no???
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Was meaning to revisit this and got sidetracked.
The goddamned university president convicted of child endangerment. Either prong of the offense requires knowledge of the danger.
The propriety of the NCAA's involvement has been discussed, but certainly if the football team is allowed to operate/prosper but for the kiddie rape, then a competitive advantage has been realized.
A conviction which requires the jury to acknowledge that the university president knew of such kiddie rape surely screams "lack of institutional control," no???
Agree.
In fact - it's way beyond that now.
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If nothing else, this thread deserved to be resurrected just for the memes that Chizad posted.