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It was just a matter of time
« on: November 23, 2020, 03:05:41 PM »
This is where we are headed as a bunch of pansies. 

Maskless man seen exhaling on women outside Trump golf club charged with assault

A man has been charged with misdemeanor assault after he was seen forcefully exhaling on two women outside of President Donald Trump's golf course in Virginia.

In video footage now widely shared on social media, Raymond Deskins, 61, intentionally blows air on the unidentified women when one asks him to get away and points out that he's not wearing a mask.

“That's assault” one of the women says afterwards.

“I breathed on you,” Deskins replies.
Virginia mandates masks be worn in certain areas to stop the spread of the coronavirus, but they are not required outdoors.
The altercation occurred Saturday outside of Trump National Golf Club in Loudoun County, Va., where the president was playing. Protestors and supporters regularly gather outside the club’s entrance when he plays.


Deskins was seen wearing a pro-Trump shirt and inflatable pool tube around his waist. In a letter, several members of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors signed and sent to law enforcement Sunday, the two women were described as protesting the president at the time of the incident.

The letter, written by Chair-at-Large Phyllis Randall, also asked for a full investigation.
"We are in a hundred-year, highly contagious, worldwide pandemic of a deadly virus that has killed more than 250,000 Americans," Randall wrote. "Not wearing [a mask] and not social distancing, is clearly irresponsible. Willfully coughing in someone's face is clearly dangerous."
The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office said the altercation was investigated at the scene â€” but was "not witnessed by law enforcement and the video did not capture the entire interaction." The sheriff's office advised both parties that they could seek a citizen obtained warrant through a county magistrate.


Deskins was charged with misdemeanor assault Sunday after such a warrant was obtained.
FOX 5 DC identified one of the women as Kathy Beynette. Beynette told the station that "the incident itself came so out of nowhere that it was shocking," adding that Deskins approached them without prior conversation.
Both FOX 5 and the Associated Press were unable to reach to Deskins for comment Sunday.



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Re: It was just a matter of time
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 04:08:44 PM »
That is an assault.

Depending on his infection status and knowledge thereof, some jurisdictions have heightened punishments.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 04:40:52 PM »
What if he has no infection? Only bad breath? 
Is it still assault?
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Re: It was just a matter of time
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 05:21:10 PM »
What if he has no infection? Only bad breath?
Is it still assault?
Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.

Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.  Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 05:26:35 PM »

The letter, written by Chair-at-Large Phyllis Randall, also asked for a full investigation.
"We are in a hundred-year, highly contagious, worldwide pandemic of a deadly virus that has killed more than 250,000 Americans," Randall wrote. "Not wearing [a mask] and not social distancing, is clearly irresponsible. Willfully coughing in someone's face is clearly dangerous."
The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office said the altercation was investigated at the scene — but was "not witnessed by law enforcement and the video did not capture the entire interaction." The sheriff's office advised both parties that they could seek a citizen obtained warrant through a county magistrate.
I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that.  The actual number is probably less than 1/10th of that dumb fuck figure. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 05:34:02 PM »
Every single one of you mask wearers can suck on my dingus.  I'm not doing it.  I won't be fucking herded.  They don't work anyway.  It's 99% bullshit from the jump.  

Yesterday entering a store, told I had to wear one because (again with the bullshit) it's a "state law."  

Negative ghostrider.  No law.  Come at me with "we want you to because it's store policy" and maybe you persuade me.  State law?  Fuck off.  They let it go.  

Get to the checkout and damn teenage girl standing in a plexiglass bubble refuses to ring up my purchase unless I wear a mask.  

So I calmly explain to her that in the five minutes I was waiting in line, I observed her handle multiple packages, cash and cards including an assortment of items from a couple who looked as if their last bath was months ago. So when she went to the restroom, washed her hands, put on gloves and sanitized my merchandise we could have a conversation about masks.  

She called the manager.  

He rang me up politely, floated the "it's a national law" fuckery -- which I immediately refuted -- and then said I'd be better served not coming back unless I was willing to put a mask on.  

I told him that when he was unemployed because shoppers had been driven online for purchases rather than doing their shopping in-store, I wanted him to think back and remember this moment.  

He said "never happen" and walked off.  

I might be alone, but I don't have to go to their store.  I did so because I wanted to.  I don't any more.  
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Re: It was just a matter of time
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 05:44:17 PM »
That is an assault.

Depending on his infection status and knowledge thereof, some jurisdictions have heightened punishments.
Give me a 12 pack of Busch light and some gas station tacos and I’ll assault a motherfucker alright.

Try me.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 05:51:19 PM »
Every single one of you mask wearers can suck on my dingus.  I'm not doing it.  I won't be fucking herded.  They don't work anyway.  It's 99% bullshit from the jump. 

Yesterday entering a store, told I had to wear one because (again with the bullshit) it's a "state law." 

Negative ghostrider.  No law.  Come at me with "we want you to because it's store policy" and maybe you persuade me.  State law?  Fuck off.  They let it go. 

Get to the checkout and damn teenage girl standing in a plexiglass bubble refuses to ring up my purchase unless I wear a mask. 

So I calmly explain to her that in the five minutes I was waiting in line, I observed her handle multiple packages, cash and cards including an assortment of items from a couple who looked as if their last bath was months ago. So when she went to the restroom, washed her hands, put on gloves and sanitized my merchandise we could have a conversation about masks. 

She called the manager. 

He rang me up politely, floated the "it's a national law" fuckery -- which I immediately refuted -- and then said I'd be better served not coming back unless I was willing to put a mask on. 

I told him that when he was unemployed because shoppers had been driven online for purchases rather than doing their shopping in-store, I wanted him to think back and remember this moment. 

He said "never happen" and walked off. 

I might be alone, but I don't have to go to their store.  I did so because I wanted to.  I don't any more. 
I think you should just wear your old high school football helmet.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 06:17:54 PM »
I think you should just wear your old high school football helmet.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 07:26:06 PM »
Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.

Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.  Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
Do you realize what a slippery Orwellian slope this is going down??
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Re: It was just a matter of time
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2020, 12:08:32 PM »
Do you realize what a slippery Orwellian slope this is going down??
Sorry to break the news to you, but what you quoted is about 350 years of English Common law.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2020, 12:21:23 PM »
I assault you now

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2020, 01:15:39 PM »
Sorry to break the news to you, but what you quoted is about 350 years of English Common law.
There's a difference between "the law" and the application thereof.  

You know that.  
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2020, 02:11:56 PM »
There's a difference between "the law" and the application thereof. 

You know that. 
I'm saying the law, as articulated above, has been enforced for about that long.
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2020, 02:43:32 PM »
I'm saying the law, as articulated above, has been enforced for about that long.
Yep.  Most people associate assault with a physical touching (Mmmmm.....physical touching), but like you said above, raising your fist as if to bitch slap-a-ho, rises to the level of assault if said ho was actually was in fear of said bitch slap.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2020, 02:47:34 PM »
Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-6-22


(a) A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if:
(1) With intent to cause physical injury to another person, he causes physical injury to any person;  or
(2) He recklessly causes physical injury to another person;  or
(3) With criminal negligence he causes physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument;  or
(4) With intent to prevent a peace officer from performing a lawful duty, he causes physical injury to any person.


(b) Assault in the third degree is a Class A misdemeanor.

I would assume that most states code for assault is very similar to this.
  
Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.

Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.  Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
And we all know how well the judges are about making up or changing laws to benefit themselves or an agenda and this has agenda written all over it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2020, 02:54:49 PM »
Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.

Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.  Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
Then some  of you done second torted my dick with your lips.
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2020, 03:03:39 PM »
Yep.  Most people associate assault with a physical touching (Mmmmm.....physical touching), but like you said above, raising your fist as if to bitch slap-a-ho, rises to the level of assault if said ho was actually was in fear of said bitch slap.
I do not know where these motherfuckers live that they claim an open handed or back handed slap on a bitch is assault but I definitely don’t want to live there. Ridiculous.
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2020, 03:21:48 PM »
I do not know where these motherfuckers live that they claim an open handed or back handed slap on a bitch is assault but I definitely don’t want to live there. Ridiculous.
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