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What SHE got wrong
« on: November 10, 2016, 01:26:33 PM »
I went into great detail about what the democratic party as a whole got wrong in the election.  There are a lot of things Hillary got wrong, too.  There's a saying that everyone is actually three people:  a) the person you think you are, 2) the person other people see you as and iii) the person you really are (which is a combination of both). 

Hillary had a significant problem with self awareness.  There was the person she thought she was and that person was vastly different than how she was perceived. 

1) She thought she was a champion of women and that simply by being an alleged female, women of all backgrounds would support her.  She exhibited very few characteristics that resonated with women.  Despite the crass demonization of Trump, she failed miserably to bring the female vote she expected. 

2) She thought she was the voice of the middle class.  But to her?  Middle class is the people making millions a year.  She failed to connect on a personal level with people who work for a living. She's never driven and seemed befuddled at the operation of a car.  She couldn't work a subway gate.  She could not do simple, normal things that most people do on a routine basis. 

3) She thought she was the obvious, clear, certain choice.  Her arrogance was so supreme (as mirrored by a few around here) that she couldn't fathom how anyone could possibly not see things as she did.  In her haze of delusion she refused to listen to anyone who disagreed and in doing so treated great swaths of the American populace with contempt and disdain.  Her "vision" came across as holier-than-thou lecturing which put people off. 

4) She thought she was the voice of the "minority" when actuality what she gave was pandering and lip service.  Other than the LGBTHFQCDS contingent and the black sheeple who'd vote for a democrat if they ran a dead camel, she didn't fare as well as she expected there either.  In pandering, she turned her back on the majority. 


There were literally hundreds of reasons I would never vote for her.  More and more cropped up during the campaign.  But even if there were no emails, no corruption using the Foundation to enrich herself, no lies, no dead US citizens in Benghazi, no Whitewater, no NAFTA, no Obamacare (that she wanted to claim for her own) and no history of destroying Bill's dalliances?  There was one thing that would have prevented me from ever supporting her candidacy. 



Huma is deeply connected to the forces that are determined to destroy America.  Having her that close shows a lack of judgment so profound on Hillary's part that it simply cannot be overlooked.  It speaks to her lack of character, lack of discernment and failure to understand the threat we face. 

Thank God she's gone. 
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 02:36:51 PM »




You wanna see a picture of my husbands dick? 
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 03:54:32 PM »
You missed a big one and probably one of the main reasons she lost:

She screwed over Bernie Sanders who had taken over almost half of the Democratic party. She also refused to adopt any of his ideals and when it came down to it, Clinton was as connected to Wall Street as ever and it's become apparent since Occupy Wall Street that blue voters want to move much further to the left.

She lost the same way the table of 15 lost in the GOP primaries. None of the recognized that a growing number of people from their parties were actually beginning to wise up to what it actually means to be conservative or liberal. Trump seized the mindset of the ultra conservative whereas Bernie seized the other end. Bernie just couldn't beat the established machine that fixes election while Trump could. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2016, 03:56:40 PM »
You wanna see a picture of my husbands richard?

Wait, who is saying that?
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2016, 03:59:31 PM »






Want to see a picture of my husband's dick?

No. I've already held it in this hand.
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2016, 04:48:01 PM »




Which finger smells like my pussy?
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2016, 05:33:53 PM »
You missed a big one and probably one of the main reasons she lost:

She screwed over Bernie Sanders who had taken over almost half of the Democratic party. She also refused to adopt any of his ideals and when it came down to it, Clinton was as connected to Wall Street as ever and it's become apparent since Occupy Wall Street that blue voters want to move much further to the left.

She lost the same way the table of 15 lost in the GOP primaries. None of the recognized that a growing number of people from their parties were actually beginning to wise up to what it actually means to be conservative or liberal. Trump seized the mindset of the ultra conservative whereas Bernie seized the other end. Bernie just couldn't beat the established machine that fixes election while Trump could.
Yup, not only did she & the DNC screw over a candidate that had a massive following, she & the DNC told that following that they better get in line and follow her. When a majority of them said, "no thanks, we don't want you to represent us", they were met with "we don't need you to win this election." They were wrong. I stated it before, those early polls were counting on all of the Democrats to vote Hillary come election day. When more and more emails came out to prove that the DNC rigged the primaries and were championing Hillary, that pissed off a decent percentage of Democrats.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2016, 05:36:54 PM »
You missed a big one and probably one of the main reasons she lost:

She screwed over Bernie Sanders who had taken over almost half of the Democratic party. She also refused to adopt any of his ideals and when it came down to it, Clinton was as connected to Wall Street as ever and it's become apparent since Occupy Wall Street that blue voters want to move much further to the left.

She lost the same way the table of 15 lost in the GOP primaries. None of the recognized that a growing number of people from their parties were actually beginning to wise up to what it actually means to be conservative or liberal. Trump seized the mindset of the ultra conservative whereas Bernie seized the other end. Bernie just couldn't beat the established machine that fixes election while Trump could.

I find it hilarious today that the clarion call from the democrats is that they "weren't far enough left." 

I hope that's their reaction.  They'll lose again and again and again. 

What people say in public to maintain political correctness is very rarely what they hold in their hearts.  Not that there's anything wrong with it. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2016, 05:38:07 PM »
Yup, not only did she & the DNC screw over a candidate that had a massive following, she & the DNC told that following that they better get in line and follow her. When a majority of them said, "no thanks, we don't want you to represent us", they were met with "we don't need you to win this election." They were wrong. I stated it before, those early polls were counting on all of the Democrats to vote Hillary come election day. When more and more emails came out to prove that the DNC rigged the primaries and were championing Hillary, that pissed off a decent percentage of Democrats.

You're a fool if you think this country would have elected an avowed socialist. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2016, 05:46:47 PM »
You're a fool if you think this country would have elected an avowed socialist.

This.  Hillary didn't screw over Bernie, the entire democratic party screwed him over.  There was never a day that he was going to be allowed to take the white house.  Anyone who has ever had to bust their ass for anything understands that nothing is free.  Not healthcare, not education, not anything.  That is the one thing democrats and republicans can both agree on. 

Bernie only made it as far as he did because of the world of academia.  They are smothered in debt and seen him as an easy way out of it.  But that isn't reality and it never will be. 
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2016, 06:29:18 PM »
You missed a big one and probably one of the main reasons she lost:

She screwed over Bernie Sanders who had taken over almost half of the Democratic party. She also refused to adopt any of his ideals and when it came down to it, Clinton was as connected to Wall Street as ever and it's become apparent since Occupy Wall Street that blue voters want to move much further to the left.

She lost the same way the table of 15 lost in the GOP primaries. None of the recognized that a growing number of people from their parties were actually beginning to wise up to what it actually means to be conservative or liberal. Trump seized the mindset of the ultra conservative whereas Bernie seized the other end. Bernie just couldn't beat the established machine that fixes election while Trump could.

Agree except for the not adopting his ideas part. You obviously missed the dnc debates. If they had went any farther left they would have fell off the stage. It was a race to the left to see who could drum up the most stuff for people. It was sickening. I think it was more the fact that most know she's a centrist and crony big bank capitalist but tried to actually act like a leftist - that pissed people off. Bernie called her on it but no one wanted to listen. The GOP wasn't rigged like the dem side because there was really no heir apparent to the throne like Hillary and GOP voters tend to see through that shit (establishment shills) a little better once they get bit. Jeb was close to being that on the GOP side but nothing near the machine Hillary was.
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2016, 06:32:00 PM »
I find it hilarious today that the clarion call from the democrats is that they "weren't far enough left." 

I hope that's their reaction.  They'll lose again and again and again. 

What people say in public to maintain political correctness is very rarely what they hold in their hearts.  Not that there's anything wrong with it.

That^^

Hillary is no leftist. She's a crony capitalist. But she pretended to be a leftist. Bad bad strategy. Lose lose because a majority of the country hate both of those. She tried to be both.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2016, 06:33:16 PM »
This.  Hillary didn't screw over Bernie, the entire democratic party screwed him over.  There was never a day that he was going to be allowed to take the white house.  Anyone who has ever had to bust their ass for anything understands that nothing is free.  Not healthcare, not education, not anything.  That is the one thing democrats and republicans can both agree on. 

Bernie only made it as far as he did because of the world of academia.  They are smothered in debt and seen him as an easy way out of it.  But that isn't reality and it never will be.

How you are a bammer is beyond me.
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2016, 06:52:16 PM »
You're a fool if you think this country would have elected an avowed socialist.
You're a dumbass for not realizing Bernie would've won the primaries had the DNC not already made their selection. He had a large percentage of Democrats & Independents voting for him.
A Trump vs Bernie Presidential race would've been huge. Both candidates fight against the current system. Just like with all Presidents, everything they say they're going to do doesn't always happen.

But yeah, this Country would never elect a Democrat Socialist.

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2016, 08:54:51 PM »
You're a dumbass for not realizing Bernie would've won the primaries had the DNC not already made their selection. He had a large percentage of Democrats & Independents voting for him.
A Trump vs Bernie Presidential race would've been huge. Both candidates fight against the current system. Just like with all Presidents, everything they say they're going to do doesn't always happen.

But yeah, this Country would never elect a Democrat Socialist.

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Don't give a shit if he would have won the primaries or not.  Good thing he didn't. Wouldnt have had the media in his back pocket.  Didn't have the machine to gin up controversy.  Trump would have beaten his ass to a bloody stump and then turned him upside down and used his flyaway hair to mop up the mess.
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Re: What SHE got wrong
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2016, 10:04:00 PM »
You're a dumbass for not realizing Bernie would've won the primaries had the DNC not already made their selection. He had a large percentage of Democrats & Independents voting for him.
A Trump vs Bernie Presidential race would've been huge. Both candidates fight against the current system. Just like with all Presidents, everything they say they're going to do doesn't always happen.

But yeah, this Country would never elect a Democrat Socialist.

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I'd say Obama is a centrist economically. Sounds funny to say as left as he is on other things. Obamacare is still largely free market with govt intervention. Compared to Bernie anyway.

Fdr had the depression to fall back on and ran against one of the most unpopular candidates in history. Me or you probably would have beaten Herbert Hoover after what happened in 1929.

I don't think Bernie was a good general candidate. Just too polarizing with a lot of his spending proposals. Even some libs I know said he was just too out there for them. But they appreciated his honesty. I think he's a nice guy and all but his economics are wackadoo.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2016, 12:19:37 AM »
Don't give a shit if he would have won the primaries or not.  Good thing he didn't. Wouldnt have had the media in his back pocket.  Didn't have the machine to gin up controversy.  Trump would have beaten his ass to a bloody stump and then turned him upside down and used his flyaway hair to mop up the mess.
Highly doubt that. Even with he media giving hardly any recognition to the hundreds of thousands of people at Bernie's rallys, they still showed him beating Trump by a larger margin than their puppet master, Hillary. Yes, some of his ideas were far fetched and they more than likely wouldn't have gone through.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2016, 12:37:01 AM »
Don't give a shit if he would have won the primaries or not.  Good thing he didn't. Wouldnt have had the media in his back pocket.  Didn't have the machine to gin up controversy.  Trump would have beaten his ass to a bloody stump and then turned him upside down and used his flyaway hair to mop up the mess.
Also, there wouldn't have been much mud slinging, if at all. We would've been able to see true debates, found out what the candidates wanted to do, what they wanted to change, how they wanted to implement their strategy, etc. without having to sift through all the shit been slung at each other. It would've been a cleaner Presidental Race, that's for sure. But, didn't happen, the sun comes out tomorrow, live another day...move forward.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2016, 07:33:57 AM »
Highly doubt that. Even with he media giving hardly any recognition to the hundreds of thousands of people at Bernie's rallys, they still showed him beating Trump by a larger margin than their puppet master, Hillary. Yes, some of his ideas were far fetched and they more than likely wouldn't have gone through.

Well to be fair they had Hillary beating him soundly as well and that didn't really work out all that well for her.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2016, 07:35:02 AM »
I find it hilarious today that the clarion call from the democrats is that they "weren't far enough left." 

I hope that's their reaction.  They'll lose again and again and again. 

What people say in public to maintain political correctness is very rarely what they hold in their hearts.  Not that there's anything wrong with it.

If the GOP really wants to solidify its power in 2018 and then hang onto it in 2020, they should use these protests and violent reactions to Trump's victory to show what Leftists really believe when it comes to democracy.

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