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Romney addresses a slut...
« on: March 20, 2012, 12:33:47 PM »
Now, that's a perfect response...

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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 04:26:23 PM »
My response would be...

"We already have free birth control, it is called abstinence. If you are looking for other free stuff....."
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 04:53:12 PM »
It's a great response for those who understand him, but you know how this will be spun. 
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 06:19:17 PM »
My response would be...

"We already have free birth control, it is called abstinence. If you are looking for other free stuff....."
I'm not saying I really disagree with Romney on this, but really?

My wife is on birth control, because we're not ready for kids yet. Does this make her a slut? Are we freeloaders if we think our health insurance policy should cover birth control, just like it does any other medications I pick up from the Pharmacy?
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 06:31:58 PM »
I'm not saying I really disagree with Romney on this, but really?

My wife is on birth control, because we're not ready for kids yet. Does this make her a slut? Are we freeloaders if we think our health insurance policy should cover birth control, just like it does any other medications I pick up from the Pharmacy?

Really?

How is what you are saying even a comparison? You CHOOSE to have sex with your wife. Why the flying fuck should the government be forced to make sure that you don't have children yet???? And I am pretty sure no one is talking about "health insurance policies". We were talking about government subsidized birth control...

That is really one of the most pointless arguments I have seen you make on here...
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 06:32:47 PM »
And did I call her a slut? Or call you free loaders? WTF?
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 06:55:12 PM »
Really?

How is what you are saying even a comparison? You CHOOSE to have sex with your wife. Why the flying fuck should the government be forced to make sure that you don't have children yet???? And I am pretty sure no one is talking about "health insurance policies". We were talking about government subsidized birth control...

That is really one of the most pointless arguments I have seen you make on here...
I'm just sick of seeing this kind of rhetoric from the right on this issue.

If we're going to have government sponsored health care, which I tend to oppose, but if we are (and we are), then you're getting into governing morality again when you start pontificating would should and shouldn't be covered because it may not jive with your religious belief. If you're going to use the argument "Well, everyone who uses birth control are sluts" (i.e. the Rush controversy, and the title of this thread), you're just being an asshole. It's fallacious, and it irks me.

Viagara's for fucking. It's covered.
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 07:25:00 PM »
I'm just sick of seeing this kind of rhetoric from the right on this issue.

If we're going to have government sponsored health care, which I tend to oppose, but if we are (and we are), then you're getting into governing morality again when you start pontificating would should and shouldn't be covered because it may not jive with your religious belief. If you're going to use the argument "Well, everyone who uses birth control are sluts" (i.e. the Rush controversy, and the title of this thread), you're just being an asshole. It's fallacious, and it irks me.

Viagara's for fucking. It's covered.

I know you're intelligent, but your lack of wisdom and experience never ceases to amaze me.  You're sick of seeing this kind of rhetoric from the right?  Well, I'm sick and fucking tired of the continual entitlement mentality of those to the left of every fucking issue and non-issue.  When did birth control become healthcare?  And, when the fuck did it become free?  This isn't a religious argument.  It's a point of common sense.  And, since you and other mental midgets keep missing the point, let me lay it out for you.  Women who use birth control are not sluts.  Women who use birth control and expect others to pay for it are skanky assed sluts.  Do you see the difference there?

BTW, not all forms of birth control are covered by all insurance, and neither is Viagra.  Government healthcare shouldn't include them either.
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

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Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 07:34:00 PM »
I'm just sick of seeing this kind of rhetoric from the right on this issue.

If we're going to have government sponsored health care, which I tend to oppose, but if we are (and we are), then you're getting into governing morality again when you start pontificating would should and shouldn't be covered because it may not jive with your religious belief. If you're going to use the argument "Well, everyone who uses birth control are sluts" (i.e. the Rush controversy, and the title of this thread), you're just being an asshole. It's fallacious, and it irks me.

Viagara's for fucking. It's covered.

You are making shit up just to argue. Nothing was said about any of the points you are making....
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 07:35:00 PM »
You're sick of seeing this kind of rhetoric from the right?  Well, I'm sick and fucking tired of the continual entitlement mentality of those to the left of every fucking issue and non-issue.  When did birth control become healthcare?  And, when the fuck did it become free?  This isn't a religious argument.  It's a point of common sense.  And, since you and other mental midgets keep missing the point, let me lay it out for you.  Women who use birth control are not sluts.  Women who use birth control and expect others to pay for it are skanky assed sluts.  Do you see the difference there?

BTW, not all forms of birth control are covered by all insurance, and neither is Viagra.  Government healthcare shouldn't include them either.

This.
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 07:41:46 PM »
You are making shit up just to argue. Nothing was said about any of the points you are making....
WTF are you talking about?

Romney addresses a slut...
My response would be...

"We already have free birth control, it is called abstinence. If you are looking for other free stuff....."

You're preaching abstinence and GarMan's calling her a slut because she wants birth control covered in a healthcare bill that would cover other drugs.
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 07:45:51 PM »

Viagara's for fucking. It's covered.

Old people don't make babies.  No babies means no potential economic drain from parents who rely on the system to pay for their birth control. 

What happened to personal accountability?  What happened to consequences for actions and making good decisions?
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 07:56:06 PM »
What happened to personal accountability?  What happened to consequences for actions and making good decisions?

Oh, you silly-assed old people...  You're so old-fashioned.  Who needs personal accountability when we have an endless supply of Obama money
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Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2012, 08:01:22 PM »
Oh, you silly-assed old people...  You're so old-fashioned.  Who needs personal accountability when we have an endless supply of Obama money?

Don't you want to earn Obama bucks?

No. In fact, I'll give you a billion Kaos nickels to go away and never talk to me again.

What's the ratio of Obama bucks to Kaos nickels?

The same as the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns. 

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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 10:49:16 PM »
Are we freeloaders if we think our health insurance policy should cover birth control, just like it does any other medications I pick up from the Pharmacy?


YES! YES! HELL YES!

If you do not want kids, then that is your choice. But don't expect all of the other participants in your plan to pick up your slack. Now if it is prescribed due to a MEDICAL condition, then maybe you have a valid argument.
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 06:46:06 AM »
Or you could just do teh butt sexes.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 07:20:45 AM »
My wife was on birth control for medical reasons well before we were married.

Insurance covers it.

I understand the argument that if the government is going to pay for healthcare, then contraception for medical reasons should be covered.  But this goes back to the root of the problem.  I don't think the government should pay for healthcare.

I feel like this is a shady ploy by those who support the healthcare bill to move past its constitutionality/general acceptance and into why only the lunatic fringe opposes it based on insignificant fractions.

It's startling to see these kind of tactics, but then again, it's not unlike those on the extreme left to use bullshit argument strategies to get what they want. 

"I oppose Barack Obama because he lacks experience."  That's only because his skin is dark and you suffer from racist tendencies.

"I don't think the government should be doling out monthly checks to poor people especially not for a long period of time."  So you're one of those looney "trickle down" Reaganists that thinks the rich should be taken care of and the poor feel the tax burden. 

"I don't think the government should pay for healthcare."  Oh look!  Another misogynist, chauvinist pig who thinks women on birth control are sluts and only the elite should receive healthcare. 

Sadly, there are no adults in the room to combat any of this. 
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 08:43:30 AM »
I have an idea, if any of you guys want to find out what having kids are like, I'll let you kee....borrow one or three of mine. See, it be like a trial period for you and your wives; although you may never want to have sex again out of fear.
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Re: Romney addresses a slut...
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 08:52:21 AM »
I have an idea, if any of you guys want to find out what having kids are like, I'll let you kee....borrow one or three of mine. See, it be like a trial period for you and your wives; although you may never want to have sex again out of fear.

I say we go into business together, renting out our kids to parents, so they can "scare straight" their teenage children into abstaining.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 08:54:24 AM »
I say we go into business together, renting out our kids to parents, so they can "scare straight" their teenage children into abstaining.

That would make for some funny ass reality TV; for us anyway. I'm seeing dolla billz.
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