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Re: Some Media Deal
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2009, 04:45:24 PM »
Last thing bottom line... A good offense coordinator makes it work, Tony Franklin did not.  Will the offense work in the SEC, Pre-Meyer and Tebow I would have told you no. Now I believe it will, but I still think you have to have the right players.
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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2009, 04:48:13 PM »
He said, "Tommy Tuberville was like a father to me.  I love him to death but it was time for him to move on."  Basically indicated he was burnt out and shouldn't have been coaching last year.
I think we all agree on that.
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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2009, 04:49:22 PM »
"I wrote that the didn't have buy in, but again isn't that Franklins responsibility, does he not have to prove to them that he is capable?  Think about how that would work in any other business, and see if you still think that.  You're hired by the head guy who then allows the people under you, who are there to assist you and are vital to making the whole system work, but only after you prove you're worthy of their support will they then do their jobs?

In the end what fuckin difference does it make, everyone that was involved no longer coaches at Auburn.

Can't argue with the second part.
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Re: Some Media Deal
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2009, 04:55:07 PM »
Last thing bottom line... A good offense coordinator makes it work, Tony Franklin did not.  Will the offense work in the SEC, Pre-Meyer and Tebow I would have told you no. Now I believe it will, but I still think you have to have the right players.

Meyer and Franklin don't run the same offense.  As with any offense, you need the players.  But you also need your assistant coaches to coach.  "Good offensive coordinators" usually are not handcuffed and are allowed to "do what they do". 
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Re: Some Media Deal
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2009, 05:01:23 PM »
Meyer and Franklin don't run the same offense.  As with any offense, you need the players.  But you also need your assistant coaches to coach.  "Good offensive coordinators" usually are not handcuffed and are allowed to "do what they do". 
Yes, but you are talking about a staff that knows nothing about the offense now being installed (by now I mean then Tubs Staff).  This also covers your last question, he still would need to come in and show them how to do it and why.  If I am working for a company and I work under the same project manager for 7 years and they bring in a new guy and the boss tells me this is the guy and he does everything different than the last guy, he needs to teach me his system or I can't do my job.
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« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2009, 05:09:21 PM »
Tony Franklin was an incompetent stumblebum.  He was an idiot and a loser. 

No, he didn't fit in.  Yes he was a pariah.  But NOT because nobody liked him or wouldn't invite him to their tea parties.  He didn't fit because he was a fucking BUFFOON. Completely inept.  The rest of the staff distanced themselves from him over the summer because they could SEE where his fucked up mental retardation was headed. 

Every single one of you who has worked in corporate America has seen "that guy" who gets hired and it's immediately blatantly obvious that he's in over his head and going to drown.  You don't want to be around so he can grab on to you and take you down with him and you don't want to be close enough to be pulled down with the suck when he goes under.  You don't want to be assigned to his projects and you're not going to follow his lead -- because that tars you too.

Franklin was destined to be fired by July of last year.  Not because anybody didn't try, but because he was a complete tool and unable to perform his duties.  It was just too late to pull the trigger and the cabal figured they could ride out the year without too much damage.  They figured wrong. 

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« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2009, 05:13:35 PM »
Tony Franklin was an incompetent stumblebum.  He was an idiot and a loser. 

No, he didn't fit in.  Yes he was a pariah.  But NOT because nobody liked him or wouldn't invite him to their tea parties.  He didn't fit because he was a fucking BUFFOON. Completely inept.  The rest of the staff distanced themselves from him over the summer because they could SEE where his fucked up mental retardation was headed. 

Every single one of you who has worked in corporate America has seen "that guy" who gets hired and it's immediately blatantly obvious that he's in over his head and going to drown.  You don't want to be around so he can grab on to you and take you down with him and you don't want to be close enough to be pulled down with the suck when he goes under.  You don't want to be assigned to his projects and you're not going to follow his lead -- because that tars you too.

Franklin was destined to be fired by July of last year.  Not because anybody didn't try, but because he was a complete tool and unable to perform his duties.  It was just too late to pull the trigger and the cabal figured they could ride out the year without too much damage.  They figured wrong. 



Is this opinion, or do you have inside knowledge?
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Re: Some Media Deal
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2009, 05:15:07 PM »
Is this opinion, or do you have inside knowledge?

I read it on a message board.  That seems to pass for absolute proof these days.  The fact that I may have written the original post is irrelevant.  It was posted and I read it.

In truth, it is about 60% what I think happened based on the 40% I got from people who should know.  The immolation was not unexpected to me.
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« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2009, 05:26:13 PM »
I read it on a message board.  That seems to pass for absolute proof these days.  The fact that I may have written the original post is irrelevant.  It was posted and I read it.

In truth, it is about 60% what I think happened based on the 40% I got from people who should know.  The immolation was not unexpected to me.

The division started almost immediately.  I do know that.  They waited to start fucking around with the offense until after the bowl game.  What I don't know is who was at fault, but I have my opinions.  I've stated them. 
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« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2009, 08:44:33 PM »
So how does discussing yesterdays mistakes help us to survive the fuck-ups on the horizon?
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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2009, 08:51:19 PM »
So how does discussing yesterdays mistakes help us to survive the fuck-ups on the horizon?

You are an annoying fuck...
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« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2009, 08:57:08 PM »
Not as annoying as this season will be.
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« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2009, 04:18:34 AM »
Okay, I now have a some super insider information that didn't come from a message board or Paul Finebaum.  As I'm sure many of you know, I am one of the more connected individuals on this board.  I actually had lunch with Joe Whitt about a year and a half ago.  Therefore, anyone who questions my exalted insiderness will be publically flogged at Toomers Corner...while Curtis Luper calls out your name with a bullhorn.

Seriously, this isn't info as much as an observation.  I ran into one of Auburn's O-linemen from the past year.  He was a walk on from this area and I was trying to pick his brain about the program.  Strangely, 90% of what he said came straight off Finebaum and message boards.  But I digress.  His comment was innocent enough but hit home.  He said, "Tommy Tuberville was like a father to me.  I love him to death but it was time for him to move on."  Basically indicated he was burnt out and shouldn't have been coaching last year.
We may have the same inside source, I've heard the same thing.
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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2009, 08:08:06 AM »
We may have the same inside source, I've heard the same thing.

I teabag your inside source.
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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2009, 01:39:04 AM »
I teabag your inside source.
He didn't tell me that, I need to get inside my source.
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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2009, 09:58:12 AM »
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I just want to see good, hard-nosed football return to the plains.

You'll get your wish on Nov. 27, 2009. 
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