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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: wesfau2 on June 18, 2018, 05:55:49 PM
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NOT.
ONE.
FIRST.
TEAM.
AUBURN.
DL.
Russell and Brown are 2nd team. DeShaun Davis the only other Auburn mention (2nd Team LB).
Laughable.
https://www.al.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/06/b957342fc39790/meet_the_72nd_annual_preseason.html
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Kevin Steele had 70 put on him.
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NOT.
ONE.
FIRST.
TEAM.
AUBURN.
DL.
Russell and Brown are 2nd team. DeShaun Davis the only other Auburn mention (2nd Team LB).
Laughable.
https://www.al.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/06/b957342fc39790/meet_the_72nd_annual_preseason.html
Comparing Auburn's #s with Alabama's on Defense...Auburn has 3 among the list. Alabama has 2. #Boom
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Color me seriously shocked. Only 1 bammer DL on the 1st team? I fully expected to read names of their freshmen DL and LB that I have never heard before on this list. Did somebody stop providing the kool aid?
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The offense doesn't surprise me. Lack of people named on defense does.
I think this will be the best defense Auburn has had since Thomas Tuberville roamed the plains.
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The offense doesn't surprise me. Lack of people named on defense does.
I think this will be the best defense Auburn has had since Thomas Tuberville roamed the plains.
You misspelled Terry Bowden
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The offense doesn't surprise me. Lack of people named on defense does.
I think this will be the best defense Auburn has had since Thomas Tuberville roamed the plains.
IMO they'll resemble "The Nasty Boys" of '04.
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What excites me is the plug and play depth of our front seven. We truly have quality reserves without any obvious dropoff.
No worries on this side of the ball, not even the DB's. We will overcome any number deficiencies there with talent and damn fine coaching.
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What excites me is the plug and play depth of our front seven. We truly have quality reserves without any obvious dropoff.
No worries on this side of the ball, not even the DB's. We will overcome any number deficiencies there with talent and damn fine coaching.
Now I remember you. You are the guy that believes that we can never have enough cornerbacks.
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IMO they'll resemble "The Nasty Boys" of '04.
Troof!
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Still salty about the disrespect in this list.
Especially after reading this about Javaris Davis:
Opposing quarterbacks had just a 44.2 passer rating when targeting Davis last season, which ranked fourth in the SEC, according to PFF. Among 30 qualifying corners, he also ranked first in the league in yards allowed per snap in coverage (0.50) and yards after catch allowed (17), and was 11th in coverage snaps per receptions allowed (13). In regard to the yards allowed after the catch, Davis never allowed more than 5 yards total after the catch in a single game last season, according to PFF, (https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1013188193049554944) including eight games with 1 or fewer yards allowed post-catch.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2018/07/auburn_mvp_10_javaris_davis.html#incart_river_index
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Here's a little love for Javaris. I know watch lists don't mean a ton but at least they're recognizing this guy's work. Snippet from the dot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
Two Auburn defenders were among the 85 players to be named to the Bednarik Award watch list.
Defensive tackle Dontavius Russell and cornerback Javaris Davis were among those recognized on the preseason watch list for the award, which has never been won by an Auburn player and is presented annually to the nation's top defensive player.
Russell had 46 tackles with 6.5 for loss including three sacks as a redshirt-junior and Davis had 29 tackles with six pass breakups, two interceptions and forced a fumble last season.
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Was reading Deshaun Davis's praise for the DLine and caught this nugget. No way this is true...is it???
The addition of Moultry should complement the returning starters -- Russell, Brown and Davidson -- up front from a unit that helped produce the program's best defense since 2008.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2018/07/auburn_nations_best_dl.html#incart_river_index
I've managed to forget most of '08 and '12 for obvious reasons, but surely we had a defense in the last ten years that was better than '08???
I remember there being a lot of talent and the narrative being that the D got tired of holding the line ($1 to Dave Paich), but were they statistically better than any other D Auburn fielded between then and '17?
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Was reading Deshaun Davis's praise for the DLine and caught this nugget. No way this is true...is it???
The addition of Moultry should complement the returning starters -- Russell, Brown and Davidson -- up front from a unit that helped produce the program's best defense since 2008.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2018/07/auburn_nations_best_dl.html#incart_river_index
I've managed to forget most of '08 and '12 for obvious reasons, but surely we had a defense in the last ten years that was better than '08???
I remember there being a lot of talent and the narrative being that the D got tired of holding the line ($1 to Dave Paich), but were they statistically better than any other D Auburn fielded between then and '17?
The deal is, until we hired Steele, there wasn't a D that held a candle to anything Tuberville put on the field. Not even close. Not even in the 2010 championship year, or the 2013 seconds away from MNC year. Our D has sucked balls since CTT left..until Steele got here. Yes, it's been 10+ years since Auburn put a legit D on the field. Now, the "experts", are saying the D should keep them in games until the O-line gels. Suddenly, our defense is keeping opposing offenses in the teens, on average.
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The deal is, until we hired Steele, there wasn't a D that held a candle to anything Tuberville put on the field. Not even close. Not even in the 2010 championship year, or the 2013 seconds away from MNC year. Our D has sucked balls since CTT left..until Steele got here. Yes, it's been 10+ years since Auburn put a legit D on the field. Now, the "experts", are saying the D should keep them in games until the O-line gels. Suddenly, our defense is keeping opposing offenses in the teens, on average.
Let's compare Total O to Total D since 2008:
Year Total O Rank Total D Rank Final Record
2008 105 26 (5-7)
2009 16 82 (8-5...Outback Bowl Win)
2010 3 94 (14-0...BCSNC)
2011 91 91 (8-5...Chick-Fil-A Bowl Win)
2012 117 64 (3-9)
2013 7 115 (12-2...SEC Champ)
2014 17 58 (8-5....Outback Bowl Loss)
2015 80 85 (7-6...Bham Bowl Win)
2016 43 18 (8-5...Sugar Bowl Loss)
2017 15 25 (10-4...Chick-Fil-A Loss/SECW Champs)
I don't know that you can take much from this except that (under Gus) offense wins championships (or at least it warms the cockles of my heart), contrary to popular opinion. A great defense with a stalling, inept offense won't do shit for you. Just ask Will Muschamp's Gaytors. The best of both worlds is the trend in the last two years where Steele shores up the D (two top-25 finishes ain't shabby) and the O gets its collective shit together.
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The bottom line is D. We've sucked since CTT until Steele got here. No matter the offense. Steele put us on sub 20 a game D. No way you win championships without it. Steele has us there. Need an O-Line.
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I got curious so I looked up the Total Offense and Total Defense rankings of the last 10 national champions.
https://www.sports-reference.com (https://www.sports-reference.com)
| YEAR | TEAM | TOTAL O | TOTAL D |
| 2008 | FLORIDA | 4 | 4 |
| 2009 | ALABAMA | 21 | 2 |
| 2010 | AUBURN | 7 | 53 |
| 2011 | ALABAMA | 20 | 1 |
| 2012 | ALABAMA | 12 | 1 |
| 2013 | FLORIDA STATE | 1 | 2 |
| 2014 | OHIO STATE | 5 | 26 |
| 2015 | ALABAMA | 30 | 2 |
| 2016 | CLEMSON | 14 | 10 |
| 2017 | ALABAMA | 29 | 1 |
Conclusion: It is great to have a great offense, but you really need a top 10 defense to win it all.
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Let's compare Total O to Total D since 2008:
Year Total O Rank Total D Rank Final Record
2008 105 26 (5-7)
2009 16 82 (8-5...Outback Bowl Win)
2010 3 94 (14-0...BCSNC)
2011 91 91 (8-5...Chick-Fil-A Bowl Win)
2012 117 64 (3-9)
2013 7 115 (12-2...SEC Champ)
2014 17 58 (8-5....Outback Bowl Loss)
2015 80 85 (7-6...Bham Bowl Win)
2016 43 18 (8-5...Sugar Bowl Loss)
2017 15 25 (10-4...Chick-Fil-A Loss/SECW Champs)
I don't know that you can take much from this except that (under Gus) offense wins championships (or at least it warms the roosterles of my heart), contrary to popular opinion. A great defense with a stalling, inept offense won't do shoot for you. Just ask Will Muschamp's Gaytors. The best of both worlds is the trend in the last two years where Steele shores up the D (two top-25 finishes ain't shabby) and the O gets its collective shoot together.
I remember 2008 better, because there was a kick ass D on the field for approximately 84.239% of the games.
I remember almost nothing from 2012, because the beer, whiskey and meade took over my brain that season.
The biggest difference I can take from those 2 was that the '08 team won in Starkville with only a field goal and the defense didn't make it as close as it actually was...
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Conclusion: It is great to have a great offense, but you really need a top 10 defense to win it all.
That's why I qualified with "(under Gus) offense wins championships."
He's an outlier in that respect because he got us to the big game, and within :03 of the crystal, with the 115th ranked defense. Won it all with a D in the ranked in the 90s.
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2010 was a strange year defensively. Everybody on that front 7 was a senior with the exception of Nick Fairley, who was the most disruptive player in the game that year. But, they still gave up 30+ four or five times. They somehow just knew how to turn it on when it counted. I still remember several games, like Clemson, USCe & Bama where the coaches were quoted as saying they really didn't have to do much of anything in those games. The players just stayed calm and talked to each other about what they had to do. Then, went out and executed.
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2010 was a strange year defensively. Everybody on that front 7 was a senior with the exception of Nick Fairley, who was the most disruptive player in the game that year. But, they still gave up 30+ four or five times. They somehow just knew how to turn it on when it counted. I still remember several games, like Clemson, USCe & Bama where the coaches were quoted as saying they really didn't have to do much of anything in those games. The players just stayed calm and talked to each other about what they had to do. Then, went out and executed.
Ted Roof was great with the jazz hands and with halftime adjustments.
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This quote from Josh Bynes after the 2010 Iron Bowl pretty much says it all. tehplainmenzdot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
"We were frustrated, because we gave them points. They probably had one touchdown that was legit,†Bynes said. “We went into halftime, and guys like myself, Cam and our older guys, we just was laughing about the whole thing … We all said to each other, we’re going to come back and win this game.â€
On another note, I didn't know Josh Bynes ever laughed.
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This quote from Josh Bynes after the 2010 Iron Bowl pretty much says it all. tehplainmenzdot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
"We were frustrated, because we gave them points. They probably had one touchdown that was legit,†Bynes said. “We went into halftime, and guys like myself, Cam and our older guys, we just was laughing about the whole thing … We all said to each other, we’re going to come back and win this game.â€
On another note, I didn't know Josh Bynes ever laughed.
Certainly never in Clint Moseley's direction.
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Certainly never in Clint Moseley's direction.
Where's Moseley?
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Bynes always seemed a step slow to me. Much like prowler.
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Bynes always seemed a step slow to me. Much like prowler.
Hell! I'm not that slow. My grandmother was tuffer.
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Bynes always seemed a step slow to me.
He was. But he may have been the best instinctive LB to come through AU. What he lacked in speed, he made up for in always knowing where the ball was.
He made plays where you just KNEW he was never gonna get there in time, but he did.
He has carved out a pretty good pro career also. Got a Super bowl ring.
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He was. But he may have been the best instinctive LB to come through AU. What he lacked in speed, he made up for in always knowing where the ball was.
He made plays where you just KNEW he was never gonna get there in time, but he did.
He has carved out a pretty good pro career also. Got a Super bowl ring.
The whole purpose of the comment was the high IQ zinger about Prowler. Not to get your best Gary Danielson.
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The whole purpose of the comment was the high IQ zinger about Prowler. Not to get your best Gary Danielson.
You'll never understand success!
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You'll never understand success!
There are other forms of punctuation that you should try sometime! Periods and question marks are our friend!
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The whole purpose of the comment was the high IQ zinger about Prowler. Not to get your best Gary Danielson.
If I'm considered "a step slow" then y'all are moving backwards.
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If I'm considered "a step slow" then y'all are moving backwards.
Somebody say somethin' bout backing it up?
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What is the biggest change that I have seen since Steele came in (actually Muschamp to some degree) Linebackers. We actually have been decent on the defensive line side of the ball since Tubs left.
What we haven't had was two good guys in the middle. 2012...2013 a guy named Will Holland, Auburn Man love him but bahahhahahha.
That has since changed.
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What is the biggest change that I have seen since Steele came in (actually Muschamp to some degree) Linebackers. We actually have been decent on the defensive line side of the ball since Tubs left.
What we haven't had was two good guys in the middle. 2012...2013 a guy named Will Holland, Auburn Man love him but bahahhahahha.
That has since changed.
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Bitch!
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Bitch!
*snicker*