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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on September 06, 2009, 02:41:25 PM
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Auburn...
- Has a quarterback that can accurately throw the ball down field. However, Todd still needs to get rid of the ball sooner. There's no reason to take a coverage sack especially in an offense that has a high octane pace.
- Not unexpected, Auburn has another future legend at running back. Onterrio McCalleb is one of the fastest players I've seen at Auburn in a long time. He'll need to add some muscle to withstand the pounding of the SEC, but I'm excited about his career.
- Needs wide receivers. I'm happy for Fannin and the big Zachery play. Darvin Adams played well, but I'm still not sold on our wide receivers. I hope this gets cleared up against Miss St.
- Darren Bates will be a superstar at safety. He still needs to adapt to the SEC, but the kid was amazing for a true freshman.
- Undisciplined. I know, I know...first game jitters. But too many penalties on defense. I'm not going to give any excuses for this because it's inexcusable. That needs to get fixed fast.
- Potential: Auburn looked good, but will they be able to start faster against tough opponents? If we play the same type of game against LSU, Ole Miss, WVU, Tennessee, Georgia, or Alabama, we lose them all. First half was not impressive due to penalties and confusion on offense. I expect this to improve.
Alabama...
- Just as good as last year because of the defense. I think they'll have the best defense in the country unless McClain and company decide to thug out and get kicked out of the game.
- Will lose a few games because of the quarterback. Yeah, yeah...Hanks had a long catch. Maze had a long catch. Peak (the TE?) had a long catch. GREAT catches that should have been touchdowns. Julio Jones was wide open and was overthrown. Technically, those long completions were overthrown. He took some terrible sacks. He made some poor reads. He blamed it on nerves, but I think he's a liability.
- Has an incredible running back in Mark Ingram. He single handedly took over the game in the 4th quarter. His strength is the key to the offense. Upchurch is good, but I don't think he can be the main guy.
Ohio St...
- Terrell Pryor is the smoothest and most fluid athlete I think I've ever seen. I predict he'll be in the headlines for all the wrong reasons within the foreseeable future. Why put "Mike Vick" on your face? And why did the announcer seriously try to say "it could be a different Mike Vick"?
- Will get blown out to USC. Not because they struggled with Navy, but USC blows out every Big 10 team they play.
Navy...
- Triple option would be killer on a team like Florida or USC. Get the top talent in the country to run it, they'll be unstoppable. It's too bad the NFL hates quarterbacks/wide receivers/lineman that are from that kind of offense.
- I haven't looked it up, but if Navy returns some of those cats, they go undefeated next year. Maybe I'm looking too far ahead; Navy gets to 10 wins this year.
Georgia...
- No good. Really no good. And I mean the offense. Oklahoma St might have a killer offense, but their defense was nothing last year. Joe Cox will lose their season, and Sturdivant being out almost solidifies it.
- Will be screaming for Richt's head by the year's end. Unwarranted, but it's going to happen.
LSU...
- Traveled 2600 miles to play a football game. That deserves some props. They were also well represented in the stands. Even bigger props.
- Will underachieve. They have names all over the field - both offense and defense - but they couldn't blow out Washington?
Florida...
- Overrated. Couldn't cover the spread against Charleston Southern? Vote them out of the top 25.
Those are my thoughts for week 1. Any and all complaints should be forwarded to Tim Jackson at the Auburn athletic department.
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How did McClain NOT get kicked out if that game last night? He swung on and hit a referee. He's a fucking punk.
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I agree with your take on Navy. Man, I was pulling for them. LSU didn't impress me. USC will completely massacre OSU next week - I'm talking by 28 points or better.
Was the William & Mary beatdown of Virginia an upset? I don't think so. Say buh-bye to Grohe at the end of this season.
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How did McClain NOT get kicked out if that game last night? He swung on and hit a referee. He's a fucking punk.
Are you on crack? He did not swing on a referee. I think you need to go back and watch that again. That would probably answer your question.
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Watch it again, dick face. He made contact with the official to his left. Should have been thrown out of the game.
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Watch it again, dick face. He made contact with the official to his left. Should have been thrown out of the game.
I saw it the first time.....he did not swing on a referee.
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I guess the official's shoulder knocked itself back. He's suffering from the Jimmy shoulder! McClain made contact.
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I guess the official's shoulder knocked itself back. He's suffering from the Jimmy shoulder! McClain made contact.
Fine, but he DID NOT SWING ON A REFEREE. Jesus.....Two refs got between him and the VT player and he was still jaw jacking with the VT player.....I don't think his hands even ever came up. He shouldn't have done what he did, but he didn't make a swing at a ref at all.
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My definition of "swing on a referee" is a little different than PCT's, but either way, it was a very dumb move on McClain's part. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt being this is the first time he's ever acted in that type of way, but it's not something that should be tolerated again.
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Also, I disagree with THS's comment on McElroy. The kid started bad, but it's his first ever start in college football...against one of the best defenses he'll play all year. After a very poor start, he finished the game hitting 13 of 18 for 186 yards and a touchdown. I think it's unfair to call him a liability after his first start.
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Also, I disagree with THS's comment on McElroy. The kid started bad, but it's his first ever start in college football...against one of the best defenses he'll play all year. After a very poor start, he finished the game hitting 13 of 18 for 186 yards and a touchdown. I think it's unfair to call him a liability after his first start.
No doubt. I didn't think he was a wordbeater, but given the circumstances, he did a good job. I wouldn't go as far as saying he's a liability. Room for improvement, sure. But to start against a team who has had a top 10 defense the past four seasons (two of those were #1) as your first collegiate start with 3 new starters on OL......and win, he's a liability? Hmmmm....
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No doubt. I didn't think he was a wordbeater, but given the circumstances, he did a good job. I wouldn't go as far as saying he's a liability. Room for improvement, sure. But to start against a team who has had a top 10 defense the past four seasons (two of those were #1) as your first collegiate start with 3 new starters on OL......and win, he's a liability? Hmmmm....
McElroy did exactly what he was supposed to do...to not lose the game. He looked shaky at the start, but this being his first game to start, against a very fast Defense, I'd say that if he can improve...which he should, he'll be a pretty good QB this year, probably not a Heisman Candidate....because the Top 5 will be Ontarrio McCalebb, Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, Chris Todd and Mark Ingram.
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McElroy did exactly what he was supposed to do...to not lose the game. He looked shaky at the start, but this being his first game to start, against a very fast Defense, I'd say that if he can improve...which he should, he'll be a pretty good QB this year, probably not a Heisman Candidate....because the Top 5 will be Ontarrio McCalebb, Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, Chris Todd and Mark Ingram.
All that I can agree on, except your Heisman candidate list, and I pray that you are being sarcastic.
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All that I can agree on, except your Heisman candidate list, and I pray that you are being sarcastic.
...if you had to ask, your sarcasm "meter" is in the off position.
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All that I can agree on, except your Heisman candidate list, and I pray that you are being sarcastic.
Nope....that's the final list with Ontarrio taking the majority of the votes.
Ontarrio - 400
Tebow - 7
Colt - 3
Todd - 2
Ingram - 1
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...if you had to ask, your sarcasm "meter" is in the off position.
You can't ever tell with Prowler.....not my fault he says stupid shit.
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Also, #90 Nick Fairley has been dubbed "King Kong" by me. He was in on just about every tackle in the game, well except for the long passes of course, and no I'm not kidding....and he started being double teamed about half way through the game.
#31 Adam Herring will be a great Auburn Linebacker, I don't give a flyin' fuck how many stars this guy has, he was flying all over the field. Go back and watch the very first play on Defense, watch #31....he's the only white guy on Defense so it shouldn't be that hard to pick him out, lol. That's a 285lb. lineman that he runs through.
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Also, #90 Nick Fairley has been dubbed "King Kong" by me. He was in on just about every tackle in the game, well except for the long passes of course, and no I'm not kidding....and he started being double teamed about half way through the game.
#31 Adam Herring will be a great Auburn Linebacker, I don't give a flyin' fuck how many stars this guy has, he was flying all over the field. Go back and watch the very first play on Defense, watch #31....he's the only white guy on Defense so it shouldn't be that hard to pick him out, lol. That's a 285lb. lineman that he runs through.
#31 is Reggie Herring's son, right?
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Yes
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Added thoughts due to money-making scheduling:
Ole Miss...
- Not as good as advertised, but that's not a surprise. What was a surprise was Snead's horrific start. Memphis while decent is not a team to struggle against offensively especially when you're suppose to be the #8 team in the country.
- One injured-McCluster away from being 7-5.
- Trahan is still a beast, so is Powe. Maybe not being able to read is a plus for linebackers.
Memphis...
- Poorly coached. Why, you ask? 6'8 receiver going against a corner under 6'0 and you can't hit deep passes to him.
- Good BBQ.
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Nick Fairly looked great, and I have to say that Dee Ford looked impressive as well. Very fast. We're going to cause some match up issues I believe this year. If Fairly can earn some double teams (which they'll have to if he plays like last night), our ends like Colman, Carter and others are going to eat some QB's alive this year. Great pressure up front could REALLY help our LB situation.
D looked good considering that Freeman, Carter and a few others didn't even play last night.
...also loved seeing Trooper Taylor going nuts yesterday. Jumping up and down and keeping the mood upbeat over there. The receivers played pretty well for a first game (my opinion). I am convinced that TT is the Anti-Knox.
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...also loved seeing Trooper Taylor going nuts yesterday. Jumping up and down and keeping the mood upbeat over there. The receivers played pretty well for a first game (my opinion). I am convinced that TT is the Anti-Knox.
You should have seen him at the TigerWalk...he was going nuts...
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You should have seen him at the TigerWalk...he was going nuts...
I hate that I missed it yesterday. I'll be there for next week, or at least for WVU. I like the fact that Chizik let the team go first.
Watching "The Zone" in B'ham. Watching Doug Segrest, Mike Riata and Ray Mellick "try" to talk positive about Auburn is sickening. Still are managing to do some bashing.... Making fun... Ridiculous. No credit. None.
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I was impressed with Auburn's freshman running back. Very quick. The qb looked OK, but for some reason he seems to try and throw off his back foot or something, didn't show much arm strength on deep throws. The fake and throw on the out and up was pretty. Auburn needs to work on hanging on to the ball, the fumbles kept it interesting long after is should have been a blowout.
All in all a nice first game. Miss St. should give you another chance to iron out any kinks, build a little confidence, maybe get the team on a nice roll heading into the W. Virginia game.
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"The players were having fun. The coaches were having fun," he said. "In the locker room before the game, coach (Trooper) Taylor was getting on everybody, telling them what they needed to do. Then I saw him during the game tackle my friend Dee Ford on the sideline after he made a tackle. It was crazy." - (5 Grillz) WR Jeremy Richardson.
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And even more thoughts because Week 1 won't end...or is this week 2?
Miami...
- One of these teams made a statement that they're back. I'll give you a hint: Da U.
- Has found a quarterback.
- The defense needs work, but I can't think of many teams that will have more firepower than Florida State in the ACC. Chalk up Oklahoma as a loss if their backup QB can be halfway decent. Miami may be the new favorite to win the ACC if they keep playing like that.
- Has a tremendous amount of athletes just like every year. If Shannon drops the ball again, it'll be time to hire Tuber...I mean, it'll be time to search for a new coach.
Florida State...
- Tremendous amount of athletes just like every year. Bowden continually drops the ball, and it's time for him to retire.
- Christian Ponder has enough talent to be a Heisman candidate. He has a decent o-line along with lightning speed at receiver. He should have a huge year. If he doesn't, it's because Bowden needs to retire.
- Greg Reid is the next Eric Berry. If he's not, Bowden needs to retire.
- Florida State lost due to a dropped pass at the end of the game. Couldn't have been a better douche to drop it than Jarmon Fortson. Bowden stole him from Auburn and the kid lost him the game. I think it's time for Bowden to retire.
Four more days until gameday, folks. It's the most wonderful time of the year!
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I'm going to go on record officially as saying those of you praising the "jumping around" of the coaches are completely off the beam.
In the long run, calm and collected professionalism will get you a hell of a lot further than that monkey ass shit. I understand that you have to motivate players and get their attention. I understand that coaches and players should occasionally be emotional depending on the circumstance. But I am no fan of sideline clowns.
I have no use for it at all.
I certainly don't think it indicates any relevant abilities or skill. It's just a show.
I watched Mississippi State come on the field a few minutes ago in a game replay. I was absoutey disgusted with that display.
I was at a high school game Friday night and saw the coaching staff turn to the crowd (they were a bunch of jumping lunatics, too) and start waving towels to get the crowd fired up. Coaches!
You can keep your jumping coaches. Even Muschamp,although he did know when to turn it on and when to keep it in check.
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I'm going to go on record officially as saying those of you praising the "jumping around" of the coaches are completely off the beam.
In the long run, calm and collected professionalism will get you a hell of a lot further than that monkey ass shit. I understand that you have to motivate players and get their attention. I understand that coaches and players should occasionally be emotional depending on the circumstance. But I am no fan of sideline clowns.
I have no use for it at all.
I certainly don't think it indicates any relevant abilities or skill. It's just a show.
I watched Mississippi State come on the field a few minutes ago in a game replay. I was absoutey disgusted with that display.
I was at a high school game Friday night and saw the coaching staff turn to the crowd (they were a bunch of jumping lunatics, too) and start waving towels to get the crowd fired up. Coaches!
You can keep your jumping coaches. Even Muschamp,although he did know when to turn it on and when to keep it in check.
^^^AHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What a fag^^^
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We tried boring with Knox. I don't care if he wears pink and plaid outfits and does somersaults, if our receivers are improving and God forbid, enjoying themselves. JMO...
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All that I can agree on, except your Heisman candidate list, and I pray that you are being sarcastic.
So, you would swap Chris Todd and Colt McCoy?
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I'm going to go on record officially as saying those of you praising the "jumping around" of the coaches are completely off the beam.
In the long run, calm and collected professionalism will get you a hell of a lot further than that monkey ass shit. I understand that you have to motivate players and get their attention. I understand that coaches and players should occasionally be emotional depending on the circumstance. But I am no fan of sideline clowns.
I have no use for it at all.
I certainly don't think it indicates any relevant abilities or skill. It's just a show.
I watched Mississippi State come on the field a few minutes ago in a game replay. I was absoutey disgusted with that display.
I was at a high school game Friday night and saw the coaching staff turn to the crowd (they were a bunch of jumping lunatics, too) and start waving towels to get the crowd fired up. Coaches!
You can keep your jumping coaches. Even Muschamp,although he did know when to turn it on and when to keep it in check.
So, the team didn't look that bad. The world didn't come to an end, and so you choose to pick at the coaches enthusiasm.
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So, the team didn't look that bad. The world didn't come to an end, and so you choose to pick at the coaches enthusiasm.
Surely he meant to post that in the "How long will Coach Chizik allow Coach Malzahn to get away with this?...... " thread...
Right?....RIGHT?....
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I believe that emotion is infectious, especially in a group of people that are supposed to be a TEAM. It shouldn't be offense over here---> and defense over there <--- and no mingling in between. This is ONE TEAM with people who play different roles. So I for one am thrilled with the changes in attitude. i don't see that as being clownish - I see a group of people who all share a love of football and who get excited about what they are doing.
I know that it is supposed to be just a job for the coaches. But if you can't have fun where you work, then why do it? As much as I love Tubs, he never looked like he was having fun or gave a tinker's damn... not about anything, win or lose. No man is an island, but when you keep yourself hands off like Tubs did, you ahve to wonder what happens when the going gets tough and the guys need to see leadership from their head coach.
I'll bet you most of those players would run through fire for Coach Chizik today - and when we win a big one - LSU or bammer - they probably will.
i make no apologies for feeling like this. I felt damn good Saturday night and I intend to enjoy it.
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Even Muschamp, although he did know when to turn it on and when to keep it in check.
Nope, wrong again...
(http://bulldoginexile.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/will-muschamp-blood.jpg)
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Nope, wrong again...
(http://bulldoginexile.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/will-muschamp-blood.jpg)
Ok...In that picture, What the fuck is hooked up to the players? Are they fucking androids or something? Star Trek is gay and Texas cheats.
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Ok...In that picture, What the fuck is hooked up to the players? Are they fucking androids or something? Star Trek is gay and Texas cheats.
It's a cold air or water system that is hooked to their shoulder pads' cool down system. The shoulder pads have interwoven tubes inside them, to help keep the players from overheating.
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Ok...In that picture, What the fuck is hooked up to the players? Are they fucking androids or something? Star Trek is gay and Texas cheats.
And you call yourself a fan...
Air-Conditioned Shoulder Pads Keep Football Players Cool
Researchers at the University of Florida Research Foundation have developed a Temperature Management System (TMS) that blows cool, dry air underneath the shoulder pads of football players during rest periods.
Football players often practice and play in hot, humid weather, which poses a risk for heat-related illness. The researchers developed the TMS to mitigate the dangers of heat-related illness. The TMS cooling system works with specially designed shoulder pads that have grooves or air channels to direct cool, dry air over the player’s back and chest. They have also design a TMS air bladder to retrofit current “off-the-shelf” shoulder pads.
During rest periods players can “hook up” to a small, portable air compressor to get a blast of cool air for a short period of time before they continue with the game or practice.
A study performed by the University of Florida in Gainesville, and funded by a grant from the National Football League Charities, examined the effectiveness of the cooling system in 15 athletes.
The participants wore shoulder pads, shorts, and helmets during two testing sessions – one with and one without cool air blown under their shoulder pads. They performed three exercise cycles that consisted of jogging and sprinting on a treadmill in a room with a heat index of approximately 92 degrees Fahrenheit. Each exercise cycle was separated by 10-minute rest periods.
Dr. Mary Beth Horodyski and colleagues found up to a 1 degree drop in core body temperature when the cool air was blown under the shoulder pads. They also found that it helped keep heart rate lower as the duration of the exercise sessions increased.
The University of Florida, screwing pensions for America's scientist inventors since 1965!
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And you call yourself a fan...
The University of Florida, screwing pensions for America's scientist inventors since 1965!
Hooked up to Whorns, it's either sucking or blowing hot air. Fuck Texas.
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I am a fan, but not of robots, unless Dinosaurs are fucking them.
dinosaursfuckingrobots.com
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It's a cold air or water system that is hooked to their shoulder pads' cool down system. The shoulder pads have interwoven tubes inside them, to help keep the players from overheating.
What a bunch of pussies.
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What a bunch of pussies.
Yeah, no shit. I remember when I first saw the air conditioned pads. Some lady said that it keeps the kids from over heating. I was like, where the Fuck were those at when I was playing football in 110 degree heat during two-a-days? Good God, kids these days. In the future, there won't be any kids playing in the Stadiums. It'll just be the Jumbotron showing NCAA '28 and they'll have two kids per team playing against each other, but you'll still have your thumb sprains....so, they'll have to come up with something that goes around your thumbs, to keep them from over heating. Damn the future and get off my lawn you little bastards.
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We didn't even have water at our practices. We had to earn water, and we didn't earn shit but bruises outside of gameday.
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We didn't even have water at our practices. We had to earn water, and we didn't earn shit but bruises outside of gameday.
When I was in high school we had an above ground pipeline running next to the practice field. It was made of cypress. Think of a barrel 8 miles long running from the waterwells to the paper mill. I shit you not.
If you were caught near that during practice, it was laps or Coach Pierce would make you see how much water you could drink and then laps.
I think he kicked Bear Bryant and the bear's ass in a tag team match by himself. Ex-WW2 Marine drill SGT.
The fieldhouse is named after him now.
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Yeah, when we were able to get a drink, twice...once before practice and once after conditioning, we drank out of a water hose that was hooked up to a rusted pipe. If that was now, I could probably sue the school, for something....I'm guessing now it causes Cancer to drink from rusted pipe, whateva'. We were Men those days, with the track coach as our conditioning coach, we also practiced on the baseball field that was full of ant hills...and I do mean FULL. But, we got used to the ant bites...again, because we were Men in those days. Also, our weight room was a large metal building out in open area...no shade, nothing. No insulation, only one fan and we didn't get to use it, because that was for the baseball and basketball team. And don't get me started on the weights benches. I'll talk about one of them, one had a Nail that would stick through, towards the ass end of the bench...so, if you shifted around while trying to bench..you'd get a nice little poke with a nail (which was probably rusted). Again, we didn't care, because that was all we knew. But yet, we would get beat like a drum by the likes of Minor, Hewitt Trussville, Vestavia, Mountain Brook, Huffman (They've always had an OL the size of Andre Smith)...we were a small 5A HS, that was put in the 6A because they counted the students that went to our Vocational School as our students...eventhough the students came from Curry, Warrior and Fultondale.
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Okay, I agree with the ghey shoulder pad thing. But, how the hell do you become a better ball player by being deprived of water? It makes you bigger, faster, stronger....how exactly?
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Okay, I agree with the ghey shoulder pad thing. But, how the hell do you become a better ball player by being deprived of water? It makes you bigger, faster, stronger....how exactly?
It makes you hongry and tougher than a $2 steak. That, or delirious from dehydration.
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Okay, I agree with the ghey shoulder pad thing. But, how the hell do you become a better ball player by being deprived of water? It makes you bigger, faster, stronger....how exactly?
That was just the old mindset. Eat a lot of salt tablets. Carbonation was bad. No Cokes or beer. Bourbon straight up. No sex with the cheerleaders from Wednesday on.
We'd all meet at smoker's hill after practice.
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In the old days (way before my time) everyone believed it was bad for you to drink water during practice. They were big on salt tablets, too. My dad used to tell me about it along with walking back and forth to school in the snow, uphill both ways.
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So, the team didn't look that bad. The world didn't come to an end, and so you choose to pick at the coaches enthusiasm.
No.
I choose to question those who confuse "jumping around" with coaching prowess. There is no relation whatsoever. Coaches who "jump around" and "go nuts" in Tiger Walk and on the sidelines (typically) will lose their shit at critical moments in close games. Give me studious, serious, intense and intent every minute of every day over "jumping around" and "going nuts."
Who expected the world to come to an end after one game? It's a process.
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It's part of the overall blueprint for success. I'm just referencing the one practice I saw but while there was a lot of "Jumping around" and animated gestures etc. there was also constant coaching associated with it. They were in the players ears and instructing them the whole way.
Honestly, when Chizik got up in the refs face after that bogus PI call, that fired me up as much as anything I saw the players do. I used to get so fucking pissed at Tuberville when I seemed to be 5X as mad about a call as he was and he just paced the sidelines with his arms crossed. I used to hate that fuck, Gene Stallings, but he flat out intimidated the refs and made sure the same screwing would not happen again.
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It's part of the overall blueprint for success. I'm just referencing the one practice I saw but while there was a lot of "Jumping around" and animated gestures etc. there was also constant coaching associated with it. They were in the players ears and instructing them the whole way.
Honestly, when Chizik got up in the refs face after that bogus PI call, that fired me up as much as anything I saw the players do. I used to get so phuking pissed at Tuberville when I seemed to be 5X as mad about a call as he was and he just paced the sidelines with his arms crossed. I used to hate that phuk, Gene Stallings, but he flat out intimidated the refs and made sure the same screwing would not happen again.
Tuberville never chewed out a ref? Never came out on the field and berated them?
He wasn't emotional and his players didn't have devotion to him?
OK. Then I never saw any of the below.
You've revised history to suit your erroneous belief and to make things into what they are not.
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Tuberville definitely had his moments. Seems in 03' he didn't get animated once until the Bama game and he was about to lose his fucking job. Then he went nuts on the refs.
Yes, there were plenty of emotional moments in his 10 years and I applauded the way he acted just like a fan with the 3-4-5-6 fingers. But, quite often the guy was a stick on the sidelines and showed no interest in anything but his headset when his team got hosed.
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Tuberville definitely had his moments. Seems in 03' he didn't get animated once until the Bama game and he was about to lose his phuking job. Then he went nuts on the refs.
Yes, there were plenty of emotional moments in his 10 years and I applauded the way he acted just like a fan with the 3-4-5-6 fingers. But, quite often the guy was a stick on the sidelines and showed no interest in anything but his headset when his team got hosed.
We haven't seen how Chizik or that staff will react when he's getting beaten down.
I guarantee you "going nuts" isn't going to help a damn thing.
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We haven't seen how Chizik or that staff will react when he's getting beaten down.
I guarantee you "going nuts" isn't going to help a damn thing.
Probably true and the beatdowns are sure to come. But in any tight game, I want the referees ass cheeks to be squeezed so tight, he can't possibly pull his flag out.
That referee on Auburn's sideline that threw the flags, looked like the black guy at the end of the AFLAC commercials by the time the corches got through with him.
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Personally, I just see them as two different coaching styles. Neither one is right or wrong, hopefully each coach knows how to get what he needs out of the kids his way. In the same respect neither one really bothers me either, as long as we are winning. If the coach wants to stand out there with an Auburn g-string and and his wifes best bonnet, but he beats opponents by 50 points, then Under Armor better damn well start making g-strings.
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Tuberville definitely had his moments. Seems in 03' he didn't get animated once until the Bama game and he was about to lose his fucking job. Then he went nuts on the refs.
Yes, there were plenty of emotional moments in his 10 years and I applauded the way he acted just like a fan with the 3-4-5-6 fingers. But, quite often the guy was a stick on the sidelines and showed no interest in anything but his headset when his team got hosed.
I think Tubs was plenty emotional in years past, but it was clear last year that he was spent, and was over all emotionless. I think THAT's the image I have in my head. He could get fired up, but it was GONE last year.
As far as Trooper Taylor jumping around, I think he's just that way, and there's no denying his receivers play well, and the energy is contagious. I applaud it and hope it continues regardless of the game's outcome.
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Personally, I just see them as two different coaching styles. Neither one is right or wrong, hopefully each coach knows how to get what he needs out of the kids his way. In the same respect neither one really bothers me either, as long as we are winning. If the coach wants to stand out there with an Auburn g-string and and his wifes best bonnet, but he beats opponents by 50 points, then Under Armor better damn well start making g-strings.
As long as the g-string and bonnet are color coordinated. All Auburn, all orange.
That's hot.
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Personally, I just see them as two different coaching styles. Neither one is right or wrong, hopefully each coach knows how to get what he needs out of the kids his way. In the same respect neither one really bothers me either, as long as we are winning. If the coach wants to stand out there with an Auburn g-string and and his wifes best bonnet, but he beats opponents by 50 points, then Under Armor better damn well start making g-strings.
Not going to make a big issue out of this, but "jump around" coaches are never long term.
Coaching based on emotion is an automatic fail in the long run. It can't sustain.
We ridicule Houston Nutt for his sideline histrionics, but it's a big positive for Chizik? Yeah. I get it.
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I think Tubs was plenty emotional in years past, but it was clear last year that he was spent, and was over all emotionless. I think THAT's the image I have in my head. He could get fired up, but it was GONE last year.
As far as Trooper Taylor jumping around, I think he's just that way, and there's no denying his receivers play well, and the energy is contagious. I applaud it and hope it continues regardless of the game's outcome.
Two of those photos were from last year.
Argument: FAIL.
Try again later.
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Not going to make a big issue out of this, but "jump around" coaches are never long term.
Coaching based on emotion is an automatic fail in the long run. It can't sustain.
We ridicule Houston Nutt for his sideline histrionics, but it's a big positive for Chizik? Yeah. I get it.
I just can't agree.
Signed,
Pete Carroll
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I just can't agree.
Signed,
Pete Carroll
You don't understand me at all.
Signed,
Pete Carroll
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Not going to make a big issue out of this, but "jump around" coaches are never long term.
Coaching based on emotion is an automatic fail in the long run. It can't sustain.
We ridicule Houston Nutt for his sideline histrionics, but it's a big positive for Chizik? Yeah. I get it.
Chizik wasn't acting crazy, or jumping around too much. He just looked like he certainly gave a damn about what was happening. It was refreshing compared to what we saw last year. As far as Trooper Taylor is concerned, he's a character, yes, but everyone from Tennessee and OK State wishes they still had him. He's good at his job by all accounts. So, I think your generalization of his "coaching" based on his "jumping around" is hard to prove in this case.
Houson Nutt is an assclown most of the time and acts the part. Chizik didn't do anything this past weekend that puts him in the same catagory as Nutt, other than get his team in the "win" column. Can't fault Nutt for that.
Two of those photos were from last year.
Argument: FAIL.
Try again later.
Really? You're funny.
If you think Tuberville was as emotional as he needed to be last year at critical times, you're lost in fantasyland.
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Chizik wasn't acting crazy, or jumping around too much. He just looked like he certainly gave a damn about what was happening. It was refreshing compared to what we saw last year. As far as Trooper Taylor is concerned, he's a character, yes, but everyone from Tennessee and OK State wishes they still had him. He's good at his job by all accounts. So, I think your generalization of his "coaching" based on his "jumping around" is hard to prove in this case.
Houson Nutt is an assclown most of the time and acts the part. Chizik didn't do anything this past weekend that puts him in the same catagory as Nutt, other than get his team in the "win" column. Can't fault Nutt for that.
Really? You're funny.
If you think Tuberville was as emotional as he needed to be last year at critical times, you're lost in fantasyland.
Pictures don't lie, dumbfuck.
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Pictures don't lie, dumbfuck.
Ah..."dumbfuck" ...namecalling again? You're awesome.
Should I go find pictures and wallpaper this board with them that shows Tuberville standing there like he just pee'd himself during the bama game last year?? Or during practices where his top priority was to stand there and rub elbows with visitors? Stop.
Nobody said he wasn't emotional at times. However, if you believe he was all there and as emotional as he should have been at other critical times? You're nuts. Period.
Go ahead and keep up the name calling. You're a badass in THAT department at least.
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The thing with emotion is, it swings both ways.
Mike Shula got more fired up and dropped more f bombs than Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. In 2005 emotion played us into a 9-0 start and ranked as high as 3 in the BCS. Then we lost a tight game to LSU in overtime, and had zero emotion in the Iron Bowl. The worst Iron Bowl defeat that I've ever witnessed, regardless of the score.
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Tuberville never chewed out a ref? Never came out on the field and berated them?
He wasn't emotional and his players didn't have devotion to him?
OK. Then I never saw any of the below.
You've revised history to suit your erroneous belief and to make things into what they are not.
(http://nbcsportsmedia.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo/2008/Oct/081015/g-cvr-081017-tuberville-657p.h2.jpg)
(http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/tommy-tuberville-sweep.jpg)
(http://photos.al.com/photos/alphotos/7895ac198a2d61f1b7aab5759ac6d547.jpg)
(http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2008/12/medium_Tommy%20Tuberville%20and%20Hugh%20Nall%20celebrate.jpg)
(http://apudgeisasandwich.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/tommy-tuberville.jpg)
Most of those pics are all from the times that Jay Jacobs tried to come on the field during the game.
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The thing with emotion is, it swings both ways.
Mike Shula got more fired up and dropped more f bombs than Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. In 2005 emotion played us into a 9-0 start and ranked as high as 3 in the BCS. Then we lost a tight game to LSU in overtime, and had zero emotion in the Iron Bowl. The worst Iron Bowl defeat that I've ever witnessed, regardless of the score.
Here's somebody who gets it. Emotion can't sustain.
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Not going to make a big issue out of this, but "jump around" coaches are never long term.
Coaching based on emotion is an automatic fail in the long run. It can't sustain.
We ridicule Houston Nutt for his sideline histrionics, but it's a big positive for Chizik? Yeah. I get it.
I'm not saying its a positive or negative. What I am saying if it's the way a coach is, and the players respond to it and it works then have at it. Question though, I didn't think Chizik was all that "in your face" during the game, I only had TV to show me, but the only real animation he showed was during the bad play call. Is this the case? If so then what the hell are we debating, because I could give a fuck what the assistants do, IMHO they should be geared up and getting the kids ready to play the next series. Are we talking emotions as the head coach, emotions for all coaches, or what?
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Here's somebody who gets it. Emotion can't sustain.
He said it can go both ways. He didn't help, or disprove your stance.
Bottom line, regardless of your sideline antics, you have to have the substance behind it. Which was my point with Trooper. Others have said the same thing. He's backed up his antics with great coaching of his WR's at the same time as turning his hat backwards and jumping up and down.
I've got no problem with any of it. Has nothing to do with being able to sustain anything.
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You're awesome.
Congrats. The first thing you've gotten right in a while.
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Are we talking emotions as the head coach, emotions for all coaches, or what?
I figure he HAS to be talking about Trooper, because he was jumping around most of the game and also during Tiger Walk. Chizik only seemed to get "intense" during the PI call...
Congrats. The first thing you've gotten right in a while.
OKay.....whatever.
Tell me what I've gotten wrong in this subject, since you're trying to be master of all things right and wrong? I'm just curious...since you're awesome and all.
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He said it can go both ways. He didn't help, or disprove your stance.
Bottom line, regardless of your sideline antics, you have to have the substance behind it. Which was my point with Trooper. Others have said the same thing. He's backed up his antics with great coaching of his WR's at the same time as turning his hat backwards and jumping up and down.
I've got no problem with any of it. Has nothing to do with being able to sustain anything.
What part of "can't sustain" do you fail to understand? If it goes both ways, then it isn't a positive thing.
Jumping around is useless in the long run. Coaching by emotion is a Fail.
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You don't understand me at all.
Signed,
Pete Carroll
I thought I did.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
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I figure he HAS to be talking about Trooper, because he was jumping around most of the game and also during Tiger Walk. Chizik only seemed to get "intense" during the PI call...
OKay.....whatever.
Tell me what I've gotten wrong in this subject, since you're trying to be master of all things right and wrong? I'm just curious...since you're awesome and all.
I'm only talking about the GENERALIZED comments I've seen here that coaches were "jumping around" and "going nuts"
My criticism is not aimed at the coaching staff because I didn't think anything went badly Saturday. I'm only pooh-poohing the notion (as evidenced by photographs) that our coaching staff has, in the past, been statuesque and emotionless -- untrue -- and the idea that leaping about somehow translates to a "better" coach. In the long run, it does not.
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This whole argument is stupid, ALL coaches...coach by some form of emotion. If you don't believe me then I guess you didn't watch Saban in the SEC Championship game last year.
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(http://photos.al.com/photos/alphotos/91f685f5b46cef30a9afcb28f6c36f6a.jpg)
...at the past 2-3 pages.
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I'm only talking about the GENERALIZED comments I've seen here that coaches were "jumping around" and "going nuts"
My criticism is not aimed at the coaching staff because I didn't think anything went badly Saturday. I'm only pooh-poohing the notion (as evidenced by photographs) that our coaching staff has, in the past, been statuesque and emotionless -- untrue -- and the idea that leaping about somehow translates to a "better" coach. In the long run, it does not.
I don't think anyone here was taking it that far. I don't know if Trooper Taylor is a better coach than Greg Kn...well..okay bad example... I think people are just pleased to see the energy and excitement that these coaches seem to bring to the sidelines. After a difficult year last year, I don't think it's a bad thing.
Nobody said the last staff was "never" emotional, or didn't get after it. However, it CAN be said that something missing, especially after the end of last year, was positive energy and excitement. The staff last year by year's end, HAD lost it.
You just seem to be fighting for something nobody would disagree with you on, with the exception that Tuberville and staff maintained their energy at all times, and at critical moments last year. They didn't. Just didn't.
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Should I go find pictures and wallpaper this board with them that shows Tuberville standing there like he just pee'd himself during the bama game last year??
There certainly were, but that was pretty much a beatdown from kickoff. He could have ripped the head off of a ref and eaten it. The outcome was probably still going to be the same. But hell, you guys laughed at Saban for going apeshit on one of our backups when we were up like fifty-hojillion to -50 on Arky last year. Y'all are weird about this emotion thing.
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There certainly were, but that was pretty much a beatdown from kickoff. He could have ripped the head off of a ref and eaten it. The outcome was probably still going to be the same.
okay...and?
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You don't understand me at all.
Signed,
Pete Carroll
Sorry, but because you personally do not like emotional coaches does not mean they aren't successful.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
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I thought I did.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
I thought I already commented.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
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I thought I already commented.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
No, ass, you voted on the wrong QB, then blamed it on me.
Signed,
South Carolina Assistant
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EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!
Signed,
Nick Saban
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The best thing about these threads is that I can leave for a meeting on page 1, then come back when it gets to page 5, and I haven't missed a damn thing.
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Sorry, but because you personally do not like emotional coaches does not mean they aren't successful.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
I've never seen myself "go nuts" during pregame.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
For the record there is a VAST (canyonesque) difference between being a coach who will show emotion at the appropriate times and being a coach who relies on emotion. Vast. Vast. Vast. Vast.
**note to self **
Ignore the hyperbole foisted by certain members and pay attention to what's going on or you end up in multi-page diatribes where the point is so far lost that you can't get it back.
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I've never seen myself "go nuts" during pregame.
Signed,
Steve Spurrier
For the record there is a VAST (canyonesque) difference between being a coach who will show emotion at the appropriate times and being a coach who relies on emotion. Vast. Vast. Vast. Vast.
**note to self **
Ignore the hyperbole foisted by certain members and pay attention to what's going on or you end up in multi-page diatribes where the point is so far lost that you can't get it back.
Is there a coach in particular that makes you worry about a potential "coaching with too much emotion" issue?
Just askin...
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Is there a coach in particular that makes you worry about a potential "coaching with too much emotion" issue?
Just askin...
Why do I CONSTANTLY have to explain shit to you four or five fucking times?
How many times have I said in this thread that I have no problem with the results Saturday? How many? Four? Five? Six?
My only comment -- before some of you had to roid rage on it -- was that as a general rule coaches "jumping around" or "acting nuts" is not productive. It's not what I prefer to see. And that if THAT is what you're celebrating about this staff, then you're picking the wrong thing to rejoice over. Coaches that live and die on the basis of emotion almost always fucking die in the long term. Inevitable.
I was never talking about any specific coach or any direct activity (except as referenced by some of YOU). I was only speaking in general terms.
But go ahead and make this your fucking cause of the week. Rant about it in every single thread because that's what you do, Dino.
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Why do I CONSTANTLY have to explain shit to you four or five fucking times?
How many times have I said in this thread that I have no problem with the results Saturday? How many? Four? Five? Six?
My only comment -- before some of you had to roid rage on it -- was that as a general rule coaches "jumping around" or "acting nuts" is not productive. It's not what I prefer to see. And that if THAT is what you're celebrating about this staff, then you're picking the wrong thing to rejoice over. Coaches that live and die on the basis of emotion almost always fucking die in the long term. Inevitable.
I was never talking about any specific coach or any direct activity (except as referenced by some of YOU). I was only speaking in general terms.
But go ahead and make this your fucking cause of the week. Rant about it in every single thread because that's what you do, Dino.
The only one roid raging here is you..."dino".
I was questioning why you felt compelled to bring this up considering that NOBODY, other than being excited about actually seeing emotion, was ready to call it an intrigal part of the coaching solution. It was just good to see. Nobody disagreed with you. I asked after you kept bringing it up, because I wanted to know what prompted it. It's fine that this is your opinion.
Remember, "dino", that it was YOU that opened up with the "dumbfuck" comment, and then called ME out in another trhead. I was just asking a question.
CHILL. THE. FUCK. OUT!!!
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CHILL. THE. phuk. OUT!!!
Yeah. That works on me.
Give it a rest, Chop. I really don't care to talk to or about you. This thread is over.
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Yeah. That works on me.
Give it a rest, Chop. I really don't care to talk to or about you. This thread is over.
Then why CONSTANTLY bring me up? Laughable. RUN KAOS RUN!!! :rofl:
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Then why CONSTANTLY bring me up? Laughable. RUN KAOS RUN!!! :rofl:
You're not very bright. I keep trying, but it just doesn't work.
You want the last word? Go ahead. It's all yours.
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Danza Slap - What happens is the woman is giving the man oral sex and the man will ask "Who's The Boss?" If the woman says "You Are" the man will forcefully slap her across the face with his wang and say "Wrong, Bitch! Tony Danza's the boss!"
Used in a Sentence - I broke up with my nagging girlfriend via a Danza slap.
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Danza Slap - What happens is the woman is giving the man oral sex and the man will ask "Who's The Boss?" If the woman says "You Are" the man will forcefully slap her across the face with his wang and say "Wrong, Bitch! Tony Danza's the boss!"
Used in a Sentence - I broke up with my nagging girlfriend via a Danza slap.
I personally don't like referencing Tony Danza whilst my penis is in action. The ladies like to compare things.
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What part of "can't sustain" do you fail to understand? If it goes both ways, then it isn't a positive thing.
Jumping around is useless in the long run. Coaching by emotion is a Fail.
Correction: If it goes both ways...then it can be a positive OR it can be a negative, not just a negative.
As for coaching by emotion being a fail and being useless in the long run, are you speaking from experience?
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From observation.
Is there some part of the words/phrases "sustain" and "long term" that you just can't understand? It's a simple concept.