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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Pell City Tiger on August 03, 2016, 07:24:38 PM
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Per media reports, Gus sent him packing.
BREAKING: Gus Malzahn announces running back Jovon Robinson has been dismissed from Auburn. auburn.247sports.com
:facepalm:
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We're more fucked now thanks Gus.
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We're more fucked now thanks Gus.
Depends on what went down. If he was a cancer or shithead, then good riddance, imo.
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Why don't someone just kick me in the nuts already?!
Teh suxxors!
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Depends on what went down. If he was a cancer or shithead, then good riddance, imo.
Problem is, this is happening way too often. The buck stops with him ultimately. We go from 5 deep to ultra thin now in a matter of 12 months. Unfuckingreal.
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Problem is, this is happening way too often. The buck stops with him ultimately. We go from 5 deep to ultra thin now in a matter of 12 months. Unfuckingreal.
Puts way too much pressure on the passing game.
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Puts way too much pressure on the passing game.
Right. I'm not knee jerking calling for anyone's head but this is starting to become a pattern. I don't have to post the attrition numbers or players with issues or his record since the end of 2013. We all know these things. I just see patterns. Bad ones. And they are continuing.
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Sounds to me like another attitude issue a la Duke
"We are going to have zero distractions on the team this year," Malzahn said.
Oh well, I guess we will just have to Kerryon. Might be another long year.
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"We are going to have zero offense on the team this year," Malzahn said. "We will rely on our stellar defense to.... Uhhhh...well....have a pulse. Our plan is to give up less than 40 points per game. This keep us within 40 points by the fourth quarter. If we can get to the fourth quarter maybe we can just get it the fuck over with."
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And Roc Thomas just said, "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!"
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Stephen Davis Jr. was getting some RB time today.
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3 sophomores and 2 freshmen make up our running back depth.
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Luckily we still got Roc Thomas and Peyton Barber.
It will all be okay.
It's gonna all be okay.
It WILL be okay.
It's going to be alright.
Is it all gonna be alright?
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https://youtu.be/uepFO4psgKE
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Luckily we still got Roc Thomas and Peyton Barber.
It will all be okay.
It's gonna all be okay.
It WILL be okay.
It's going to be alright.
Is it all gonna be alright?
Were you smoking with Michael Dyer when Barber declared? This pisses me off though. It is my last year to live in Auburn and we won't even have a full roster. Is it next year the we're going to have 7-O lineman and 5-QBs on roster? Fuck Gus.
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Is that Baylor transfer eligible for this season?
Is Stephen Davis Jr. as good as his diddy?
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Is that Baylor transfer eligible for this season?
Is Stephen Davis Jr. as good as his diddy?
Yes and who knows.
I see Kamryn Pettway as the #2 now and the article I just read said he'd been working almost exclusively at RB throughout the spring and summer workouts. Would like to see him drop 5-10 pounds during Fall camp and get under his listed 240 for a little extra pop.
We can still be in good shape if a QB steps up.
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Bunch of knee jerk, reacting, bleeding vaginas ITT, IYAM, IMO.
We bitch about the D so we go recruit two lights out classes on that side of the ball and we recruit a guy that we once signed but had grade issues and we expect him to not be a cocky shithead after a record breaking season in JUCO. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Want to talk about the attrition problem, should we go all the way back to the "I average 9 wins and if it wasn't for 04, 05, 06 and 07 I would have averaged 7 to 8 wins a season" coach that we all like to jack off too? This has been a trend for a while. Yeah we don't fucking cheat like bama does so we take some risk. Sometimes it pans out, most times it will bite you in the ass.
No one expected Barber to declare, we all said he was dumb for it but he had a kid and did anyways. So glad that panned out for him and he was drafted high. No one saw Rock transferring either but he fumbled as much as Mario Fanning because he couldn't quit hitting the X button and trying that spin move so his ass got benched. Quit being a crybaby puss for not playing and learn how to hold on to the ball! So Jovon was a shithead, I'm sure no one saw that coming. Again, we took a chance and it bit us in the ass.
Get your tampons out girls. It's going to be a long season, Jovon or no Jovon. If we still get shit tier OL, QB and WR play then we wouldn't win if we had damn Bo and Adrian Peterson in the backfield. If you can't block up front then you are in deep shit and if you have a shit tier QB that can't pass or scramble long enought to make something happen, then you aren't going to win much.
Breaking news! AU will lose a few game this year no matter who plays.
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Bunch of knee jerk, reacting, bleeding vaginas ITT, IYAM, IMO.
You must have confused this with the al.com boards? I agree with everything you said except the first line, I don't really see any one bitching or knee jerk reacting in this thread?!?
I'm not gonna pretend I'm not disappointed in the fact that we lost a guy whose potential from last year looked like he was going to make some waves in the SEC this year. I'm not gonna pretend that his loss doesn't hurt us.
However, I will remind everyone that this time last year Roc Thomas was the #1 back with Jovon as #2 and who was the man at RB last year? Only a guy named Peyton Barber. So hopefully one of our other guys will step up and be that man.
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Bunch of knee jerk, reacting, bleeding vaginas ITT, IYAM, IMO.
We bitch about the D so we go recruit two lights out classes on that side of the ball and we recruit a guy that we once signed but had grade issues and we expect him to not be a cocky shithead after a record breaking season in JUCO. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Want to talk about the attrition problem, should we go all the way back to the "I average 9 wins and if it wasn't for 04, 05, 06 and 07 I would have averaged 7 to 8 wins a season" coach that we all like to jack off too? This has been a trend for a while. Yeah we don't fucking cheat like bama does so we take some risk. Sometimes it pans out, most times it will bite you in the ass.
No one expected Barber to declare, we all said he was dumb for it but he had a kid and did anyways. So glad that panned out for him and he was drafted high. No one saw Rock transferring either but he fumbled as much as Mario Fanning because he couldn't quit hitting the X button and trying that spin move so his ass got benched. Quit being a crybaby puss for not playing and learn how to hold on to the ball! So Jovon was a shithead, I'm sure no one saw that coming. Again, we took a chance and it bit us in the ass.
Get your tampons out girls. It's going to be a long season, Jovon or no Jovon. If we still get shit tier OL, QB and WR play then we wouldn't win if we had damn Bo and Adrian Peterson in the backfield. If you can't block up front then you are in deep shit and if you have a shit tier QB that can't pass or scramble long enought to make something happen, then you aren't going to win much.
Breaking news! AU will lose a few game this year no matter who plays.
It's not about the short term. Or a season. It's the big picture trends. The same ones (but to a much larger degree) that we saw with chiz. And tot. You can't help but see patterns. Sorry but lsu doesn't handle shit like this. As dumb as their coach is he knows how to handle their business. The dysfunction has become too apparent. Regardless of wins or losses or season records. Jovon is just another in a trend.
And I believe I prefaced my last post with "not knee jerking or calling for anyone's head". People just see trends and have a bit of concern for the long term health of the program because of it.
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I see now I'm gonna need to stock up on extra meade this season.
Buzz, prepare your liver. Dallas, prepare to be hated and prepare your wife's cleavage.
Jumbo - there's a midget waiting for you.
:cheers:
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I see now I'm gonna need to stock up on extra meade this season.
Buzz, prepare your liver. Dallas, prepare to be hated and prepare your wife's cleavage.
Jumbo - there's a midget waiting for you.
:cheers:
Her cleavage is always prepared , no? I'll hang up and let Dallas answer. And I'll probably hate his answer.
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I see now I'm gonna need to stock up on extra meade this season.
Buzz, prepare your liver. Dallas, prepare to be hated and prepare your wife's cleavage.
Jumbo - there's a midget waiting for you.
:cheers:
There is always a midget at our tailgate.
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Also, can we get this emote pleaseeeeeeeeee?
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Gus Bus sighting on Auburn's campus this morning.
(http://jablogz.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/BusFire.jpg)
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Gus Bus sighting on Auburn's campus this morning.
(http://jablogz.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/BusFire.jpg)
It's been on fire. This is just another cup of gasoline thrown on it.
I hope. Hope he reversed this trend. I really do. But I need to see it.
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So Gus dismisses the kid, the kid says he isn't like Duke but then airs his dirty laundry in a story to the fucks at al.com. Yeah see ya Jovon.
I guess we could have been like bama and just trashed his stuff.
Report: Alabama trashed Maurice Smith’s personal belongings after talking to Nick Saban about transfer.
It’s safe to assume that Maurice Smith did not envision his plans of transferring from the University of Alabama to go this poorly.
Smith, a senior defensive back that appeared in 22 games for the Crimson Tide over the last three seasons, told coach Nick Saban of his plans to leave the program in hopes of more playing time back in June before making it public. And if weren’t suiting up for college football’s Goliath, it probably would have been an easy process — much smoother than it’s gone to this point, at least.
Since his announcement, reports have indicated that Alabama has been uncooperative with Smith’s desires all the way through, even recently blocking his attempt to transfer to Georgia — where he would join former Tide defensive coordinator, Kirby Smart. But apparently that’s not even the worst of it.
According to a report from DawgNation.com, Smith was “ostracized†by his superiors and teammates after he informed the team of his decision to leave. Smith wrote to Alabama’s appeal committee on July 1, which was provided to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Wednesday by Smith’s mother, Samyra:
“On Friday, June 17, I arrived at the athletic facility locker room to find my locker cleaned out and all of my personal belongings in the trash (photo attached) underneath trash,†Smith wrote. “These personal items included my family photos, written goals, inspirational and sentimental items memorializing my deceased former friend, roommate and teammate, Altee Tenpenny, and items of personal value from my former teammates.â€
The letter says that the madness began on June 13, when Smith initially requested a “permission to contact†from Alabama’s compliance department.
“I was immediately contacted by UA coaching assistants and advised I would no longer be able to “work-out†with the team.â€
Four days later, Saban met with Smith and told him he didn’t need a “formal document†to speak with other schools. Smith insisted on one, according to the letter, and then Saban told him he would not release him to any SEC schools. Smith then received a “permission to contact†form.
Not long after, an unidentified Alabama staffer told Smith that he could no longer work out at the athletic facility. Another staff member later told him he was no longer allowed at the athletic facility “to workout, to eat, or anything.â€
“Although I had done nothing wrong, I basically was ostracized from the team and felt I was being forced to make a decision to transfer.â€
Smith is set to graduate from Alabama this Saturday. In his letter, he finished with one final message:
“Please do not punish my success and instead reward the efforts of discipline, and determination that UA requires in all of their student-athletes to succeed.â€
It does not seem like this is a story that will be going away anytime soon.
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Read an article that Jovon is basically blaming the coaches for stereotyping. Kind of sounding close to race baiting. He also said the other players don't like it either. Oc course, this is from al.cum.
Jovon Robinson, "In His Own Words" coming to a Birmingham News segment near your.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2016/08/jovon_robinson_in_his_own_word.html
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I see now I'm gonna need to stock up on extra meade this season.
Buzz, prepare your liver. Dallas, prepare to be hated and prepare your wife's cleavage.
Jumbo - there's a midget waiting for you.
:cheers:
I sent a strongly worded E-mail to the Athletic dept. and cc'd Gus letting them know my frustration and I have now put my trip on hold for now. I'm awaiting their response.
Hate: Keeps me warm on those long winter nights
Wife's Cleavage is always ready and sometimes covered with a sticky substance.
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Read an article that Jovon is basically blaming the coaches for stereotyping. Kind of sounding close to race baiting. He also said the other players don't like it either. Oc course, this is from al.cum.
Jovon Robinson, "In His Own Words" coming to a Birmingham News segment near your.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2016/08/jovon_robinson_in_his_own_word.html
Noticed that he "messaged" al.com. I wonder which one of the bama honkers started that conversation?
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Noticed that he "messaged" al.com. I wonder which one of the bama honkers started that conversation?
It could have been a group message followed by a bunch of hearts and hugs.
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You must have confused this with the al.com boards? I agree with everything you said except the first line, I don't really see any one bitching or knee jerk reacting in this thread?!?
I'm not gonna pretend I'm not disappointed in the fact that we lost a guy whose potential from last year looked like he was going to make some waves in the SEC this year. I'm not gonna pretend that his loss doesn't hurt us.
However, I will remind everyone that this time last year Roc Thomas was the #1 back with Jovon as #2 and who was the man at RB last year? Only a guy named Peyton Barber. So hopefully one of our other guys will step up and be that man.
I think the knee jerking is laying this blame on Gus already when running Jovon off may have been necessary. It puts us in a tight spot with depth but I think between Pettway, carry on and the white boy and others we will be ok.
We've already been hearing good things about Pettway,
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Heard this morning on our local sports talk that he had twatted out two things. First, something to the effect of "The man behind the mic making excuses." Followed later by, "Outside influences are never a good thing."
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Heard this morning on our local sports talk that he had twatted out two things. First, something to the effect of "The man behind the mic making excuses." Followed later by, "Outside influences are never a good thing."
Those are rap lyrics, dumbass.
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Those are rap lyrics, dumbass.
Brass Monkey....that funky monkey.
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Brass Monkey....that funky monkey.
Sooo, Jovon likes him some Beastie Boys?
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I think the knee jerking is laying this blame on Gus already when running Jovon off may have been necessary. It puts us in a tight spot with depth but I think between Pettway, carry on and the white boy and others we will be ok.
We've already been hearing good things about Pettway,
Yes. ^^that in the bold. That is what I was saying.
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Yes. ^^that in the bold. That is what I was saying.
This is two years in a row Gus has kicked off his best offensive player, and he doesn't have a QB that we have seen yet. These reactions aren't knee-jerk. It's just like that shot head Chizik is running the show. We've all seen how this ends...
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Heard this morning on our local sports talk that he had twatted out two things. First, something to the effect of "The man behind the mic making excuses." Followed later by, "Outside influences are never a good thing."
So....Gus is the Great and Powerful Oz? Or does he mean Jay in his second tweet?
Or is he just a dumbass that can't stay out of trouble and then wants to race bait?
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This is two years in a row Gus has kicked off his best offensive player, and he doesn't have a QB that we have seen yet. These reactions aren't knee-jerk. It's just like that shot head Chizik is running the show. We've all seen how this ends...
But Duke needed gone before he was kicked off. It was apparent with the fall practice reports. If Duke was our best offensive player then he damn sure didn't play like it. If he was a cancer then he needed to be gone. Sounds like, if you believe the rumor mill, that Javon was a cancer too. Again, when you recruit JUCO, this is what happens. You take chances on kids that may be a risk. Sometimes they pan out, sometimes they don't. Go watch Last Chance U on Netfilx and look at what kind of kid you are dealing with 9/10 times in the JUCO ranks.
I don't care if it's your best player or not. If they are a cancer and causing distractions, then get rid of their ass. I also point out again that this has been going on for a long time at AU, even during the Tot and Tubbs years.
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My .02 plus some other spare change.
I disrespectfully disagree with this being a trend or pattern with Gus or that this happens because we’re taking chances on certain guys. Take your eyes off Auburn and look around this league and around the college football landscape. This is the norm, not the exception. How many pot smokin’, stolen gun totin’, DUI gettin’, bitch slappin’ incidents can you name at Alabama within the last year alone? Richt booted 4-5 a year and Smart has already sent some packing. I saw McElweenie talking about his suspended top receiver yesterday. Err’body getting’ raped up at Tennessee…and Vandy. LSU players beatin’ the hell out of folks. We’ve got a new RB from Baylor and one of their former QB’s looking at us after that program imploded. This a minute sampling of crap that I can think of off the top of my balding dome. It’s the nature of the beast. It’s the current environment of college football.
As the D1 corch I talked to several weeks back said, “We aren’t dealing with the same type of kid anymore. Despite what you want to believe, football is nowhere near the top of their priority lists.†The bottom line is, are you winning or not? That’s all that matters. We all like to think our coaches are fine, upstanding people with the intentions of not only winning, but also building young men of character and class. Maybe most of them are good people but that $3-5 Million Dollar contract and all those Ford commercial endorsements don’t have shit to do with building a team of community service minded, church going, helping little old ladies across the street individuals. You win by overlooking and covering up as best you can, the transgressions of your best players and making damn sure that ass is on the field come Saturday. Occasionally, some stuff is too egregious to deal with and you have to cut ties. Otherwise, “We’re handling this internallyâ€.
Two coaches are prime examples, Nick Saban and Mark Richt. Like I said above, how many player shit storms has Saban dealt with at Bama? Doesn’t matter if he covers stuff up. Doesn’t matter if he “makes it go awayâ€. Doesn’t matter if he serves ice cream. Doesn’t matter if he’s a cock sucking asshole to the media. He wins! He’s a saint. Richt is a good man. He kisses babies. He probably tolerated far less and sent players packing much quicker. Had he dealt with the problems like Saban has, he’d probably have two or more MNC’s to his credit. But at the same time, despite probably more discipline issues than anyone else, he averaged right at 10 wins a season with 9 of his 15 at UGA being 10 win or more campaigns. You can’t fire a guy for that. He wins!!! Yeah, eventually they did, but 15 season?
Malzahn’s “problems†are on the field, not off. His personnel let him down last year and he relinquished too much control to boy wonder. All indications are he’s taking it back and doing what he knows best. If it works, great. If not, they’ll find somebody else. But I promise you one thing. No matter who they get, they’ll still be dealing with the same kids. The same issues everybody else deals with.
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Didn't Gus recruit Robinson out of High School too? If so, he should've known his character before taking him back or taking Dyer back at ASU. We still have the arrest of Cowart to deal with too. Excuse making needs to stop because the program is a shit show at the moment.
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Didn't Gus recruit Robinson out of High School too? If so, he should've known his character before taking him back or taking Dyer back at ASU. We still have the arrest of Cowart to deal with too. Excuse making needs to stop because the program is a shit show at the moment.
Disagree. You recruit the best players you can and hope to God they don't frick up too bad. Like I said above, every team has a shit load of issues. Did I mention MSU's 5* beating a woman on the ground? He's going to miss the Southern Miss game.
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Disagree. You recruit the best players you can and hope to God they don't frick up too bad. Like I said above, every team has a shit load of issues. Did I mention MSU's 5* beating a woman on the ground? He's going to miss the Southern Miss game.
I'm no fan of his but...
Tommy Tuberville. Shit wasn't an issue. Did things the right way. Got high character kids. Developed them. Same with richt.
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I'm no fan of his but...
Same with richt.
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So....Gus is the Great and Powerful Oz? Or does he mean Jay in his second tweet?
Or is he just a dumbass that can't stay out of trouble and then wants to race bait?
Calling Gus a dumbass that can't stay out of trouble is going over the line, imo.
Since when has he race baited anyone? The man eats at Waffle House after some wins.
I will be looking for you at an x gate.
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I'm no fan of his but...
Tommy Tuberville. Shit wasn't an issue. Did things the right way. Got high character kids. Developed them. Same with richt.
lolwut?
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I'm no fan of his but...
Tommy Tuberville. Shit wasn't an issue. Did things the right way. Got high character kids. Developed them. Same with richt.
Talked about this last night with Jarhead (yes, while cuddling) game has changed bro, these aren't the same kids from 8 years ago and Tubs did have to throw kids off the team too.
I remember one such incident with one of our players cheap shotting a civilian in the back of the head in a parking lot somewhere.
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My .02 plus some other spare change.
I disrespectfully disagree with this being a trend or pattern with Gus or that this happens because we’re taking chances on certain guys. Take your eyes off Auburn and look around this league and around the college football landscape. This is the norm, not the exception. How many pot smokin’, stolen gun totin’, DUI gettin’, bitch slappin’ incidents can you name at Alabama within the last year alone? Richt booted 4-5 a year and Smart has already sent some packing. I saw McElweenie talking about his suspended top receiver yesterday. Err’body getting’ raped up at Tennessee…and Vandy. LSU players beatin’ the hell out of folks. We’ve got a new RB from Baylor and one of their former QB’s looking at us after that program imploded. This a minute sampling of crap that I can think of off the top of my balding dome. It’s the nature of the beast. It’s the current environment of college football.
As the D1 corch I talked to several weeks back said, “We aren’t dealing with the same type of kid anymore. Despite what you want to believe, football is nowhere near the top of their priority lists.†The bottom line is, are you winning or not? That’s all that matters. We all like to think our coaches are fine, upstanding people with the intentions of not only winning, but also building young men of character and class. Maybe most of them are good people but that $3-5 Million Dollar contract and all those Ford commercial endorsements don’t have shit to do with building a team of community service minded, church going, helping little old ladies across the street individuals. You win by overlooking and covering up as best you can, the transgressions of your best players and making damn sure that ass is on the field come Saturday. Occasionally, some stuff is too egregious to deal with and you have to cut ties. Otherwise, “We’re handling this internallyâ€.
Two coaches are prime examples, Nick Saban and Mark Richt. Like I said above, how many player shit storms has Saban dealt with at Bama? Doesn’t matter if he covers stuff up. Doesn’t matter if he “makes it go awayâ€. Doesn’t matter if he serves ice cream. Doesn’t matter if he’s a cock sucking asshole to the media. He wins! He’s a saint. Richt is a good man. He kisses babies. He probably tolerated far less and sent players packing much quicker. Had he dealt with the problems like Saban has, he’d probably have two or more MNC’s to his credit. But at the same time, despite probably more discipline issues than anyone else, he averaged right at 10 wins a season with 9 of his 15 at UGA being 10 win or more campaigns. You can’t fire a guy for that. He wins!!! Yeah, eventually they did, but 15 season?
Malzahn’s “problems†are on the field, not off. His personnel let him down last year and he relinquished too much control to boy wonder. All indications are he’s taking it back and doing what he knows best. If it works, great. If not, they’ll find somebody else. But I promise you one thing. No matter who they get, they’ll still be dealing with the same kids. The same issues everybody else deals with.
Damn you done spent your wad already this year. You avg maybe 1-2 solid posts a year and you done already blown it. Season hasn't even started yet bro-tatorchip pace yourself.
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lolwut?
Tell me where it isn't true.
Anyone on here knows I'm no fan of his. But the level of player dysfunction under him was so much lower than the last two we've had at the helm. Look at what Kirby has managed to do in 7 short months. They've had more issues in that span than their previous coach had in 3 years. People can say what they want about tubs or richt but they ran clean ships for the most part. Player development is another aspect. Seriously? Where is it now? It befuddles me we can't develop a qb.
On the field shit is usually a direct reflection of off the field shit.
Again I hope he turns it around. I do. But since the Aggie and or miss state game of '14, this team just hasn't been the same and has been on a downward slide.
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Not sure why the ????
I'm saying they both ran clean programs even if without championships. The players they both turned out were good guys for the most part. Are we recruting thugs? Or are we developing thugs? Either way, is it an issue? And is Jovon totally off the mark when he says his dismissal is an overreaction since Gus got critiqued so badly for letting duke fester way too long?
I don't think it's wrong to ask these things.
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Not sure why the ????
I'm saying they both ran clean programs even if without championships. The players they both turned out were good guys for the most part. Are we recruting thugs? Or are we developing thugs? Either way, is it an issue? And is Jovon totally off the mark when he says his dismissal is an overreaction since Gus got critiqued so badly for letting duke fester way too long?
I don't think it's wrong to ask these things.
Richt has been awesome:
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http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/college-football-arrests-2015/
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Bottom line with me is that all of it will likely never all be made public. And it's hard to judge Gus on this. From what little rumors we've heard, Jovon had an attitude problem last year and wanted more pt.
I feel like Gus would give him every opportunity to stay with the team, so I have no problem with this. I certainly don't think that he would kick the likely top 2 RB off the team only to send a message to the others. Pretty sure he had reservations.
RE: Tubbs, I certainly don't think that he recruited any higher character players but I do think that he did a better job of developing. Part of this may be because he had a lot of the under the radar and lower star kids that he liked. And it mostly worked for him.
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Flip side of the coin...
So what if what Jovon says is true, that is there are some big problems inside? Maybe I am reading this all wrong but it seems like Jovon is stating that someone outside the coaches have way too much say in whats going on. Also, the players see it and are having some issues with it. To be honest, this wouldnt be too far fetched considering everyones disdain for Jacobs. Just a thought but with Jovon making thestatement as/when he did seeking out the media makes him look like a butthurt player that didn't get his way.
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Flip side of the coin...
So what if what Jovon says is true, that is there are some big problems inside? Maybe I am reading this all wrong but it seems like Jovon is stating that someone outside the coaches have way too much say in whats going on. Also, the players see it and are having some issues with it. To be honest, this wouldnt be too far fetched considering everyones disdain for Jacobs. Just a thought but with Jovon making thestatement as/when he did seeking out the media makes him look like a butthurt player that didn't get his way.
Has anyone seen Tim Jackson lately?
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I'm gonna go ahead and flex my insider e-penis here...
The truth is that he got screwed over out of high school by a few schools, the biggest being that cesspool right up the road. He was soured by that experience in the first place. Then, when he had a chance to sign again, those same folks started harassing him and he spent his year in JUCO not even trying very hard. My source said that Gus had to be talked into going after him again because he saw that the attitude just wasn't there. imnsho, this was a big mistake by Gus. After the Duke Williams debacle, he wasn't going to take any chances, so he had him on a short leash in the first place.
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Has anyone seen Tim Jackson lately?
I'm still waiting on him to send me my tickets for the BCS game.
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Tell me where it isn't true.
I'm no fan of his but...
Tommy Tuberville. Shit wasn't an issue. Did things the right way. Got high character kids. Developed them. Same with richt.
^^^This part right here^^^
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Damn you done spent your wad already this year. You avg maybe 1-2 solid posts a year and you done already blown it. Season hasn't even started yet bro-tatorchip pace yourself.
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I'm resting on my laurel...and hardy handshake.
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he spent his year in JUCO not even trying very hard.
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yds/g 198.9
td 34
Tuberville is an inapt comparison because he wasn't dealing with this caliber of player as often. The prima donna attitude of some of the 4-5* players can be difficult to handle en masse, I'd assume.
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Richt has been awesome:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMtdD40WoAE6XYB.png)
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/college-football-arrests-2015/
al.com headline
Auburn in top 25 for Athletes Arrested!!!
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GP 12
yds 2387
yds/g 198.9
td 34
It's Buzz dude....like he has sources.
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It's Buzz dude....like he has sources.
I'm just saying. You have to try a little to average nearly 3 TDs per game.
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Richt has been awesome:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMtdD40WoAE6XYB.png)
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/college-football-arrests-2015/
Turds actually claim 35 arrest and another Championship.
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I'm just saying. You have to try a little to average nearly 3 TDs per game.
Uh-huh Buzz's momma said that he didn't try.
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Flip side of the coin...
So what if what Jovon says is true, that is there are some big problems inside? Maybe I am reading this all wrong but it seems like Jovon is stating that someone outside the coaches have way too much say in whats going on. Also, the players see it and are having some issues with it. To be honest, this wouldnt be too far fetched considering everyones disdain for Jacobs. Just a thought but with Jovon making thestatement as/when he did seeking out the media makes him look like a butthurt player that didn't get his way.
One player (this year) being dismissed, I don't see any problem. Let that happen to a few more, than yea, something is rotting in the cupboard.
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I'm no fan of his but...
Tommy Tuberville. Shit wasn't an issue. Did things the right way. Got high character kids. Developed them. Same with richt.
^^^This part right here^^^
Not talking simply arrests. But you guys go ahead and yuck it up with your pie charts. Guys like Ben Watson and Thomas Davis seemed to be more than norm for richt than Isaiah crowell (who was a thug long before richt).
More to dysfunction in a program than felony arrests. Like the attrition and record since 2014. But you guys keep acting like its a fucking crime to have concerns over it. Btdubs - the pattern isn't an opinion. It's a fact... numbers and such....
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Has anyone seen Tim Jackson lately?
He's still around. I'm friends with his wife.
I tole her all the bad things you said. He will look you up and make sure your seat is ready for you....
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Not talking simply arrests. But you guys go ahead and yuck it up with your pie charts. Guys like Ben Watson and Thomas Davis seemed to be more than norm for richt than Isaiah crowell (who was a thug long before richt).
More to dysfunction in a program than felony arrests. Like the attrition and record since 2014. But you guys keep acting like its a fucking crime to have concerns over it. Btdubs - the pattern isn't an opinion. It's a fact... numbers and such....
"I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended,"
Sincerely,
Steven Spurrier
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"I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended,"
Sincerely,
Steven Spurrier
Yeah. But they had a lot of other REALLY nice players still there...
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al.com headline
Auburn in top 25 for Athletes Arrested!!!
or
Even when Alabama is bad they are better than Awburn.
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I sent a strongly worded E-mail to the Athletic dept. and cc'd Gus letting them know my frustration and I have now put my trip on hold for now. I'm awaiting their response.
<puts Vandy back on calendar>
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<puts Vandy back on calendar>
I'll pm you when I come to a decision.
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al.com headline
Auburn in top 25 for Athletes Arrested!!!
I giggled like a 6th grade school girl at a sleepover.
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I'm no fan of his but...
Tommy Tuberville. Shit wasn't an issue. Did things the right way. Got high character kids. Developed them. Same with richt.
Raven Gray, Chaz Ramsey, and DeRon Furr all said hello and will have us know that they never got into fights with teammates at practice.
Lee Ziemba didn't beat up Coleman and send him to the hospital.
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Raven Gray, Chaz Ramsey, and DeRon Furr all said hello and will have us know that they never got into fights with teammates at practice.
Lee Ziemba didn't beat up Coleman and send him to the hospital.
Whutchu talkin' bout Willis? Gary Coleman was only like 3'6". Ziemba was 7 foot tall.
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Whutchu talkin' bout Willis? Gary Coleman was only like 3'6". Ziemba was 7 foot tall.
Coleman tried to bite his balls. I think that is what started the fight.
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Coleman tried to bite his balls.
That's why they call him a cowwww boyyyyyy baby
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That's why they call him a cowwww boyyyyyy baby
He can smell a pig from a mile away.
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He can smell a pig from a mile away.
#Pork lives matter
or
Riding all night because I sleep all day
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He can smell a pig from a mile away.
I bet you'll hear my whistle blowin' when my train rolls in
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I'm just saying. You have to try a little to average nearly 3 TDs per game.
I should have been more specific. He took many practices off...especially late in the season. It was said that he also had a horrible attitude that whole year.
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I should have been more specific. He took many practices off...especially late in the season. It was said that he also had a horrible attitude that whole year.
You know, it's a shame about Ed.
Oh, it was. Yeah, it was really a shame. To go so suddenly like that.
He was dying for years.
Sure, but... the end was very... very sudden.
He was in intensive care for eight weeks.
Yeah, but I mean the very end, when he actually died. That was extremely sudden.
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Raven Gray, Chaz Ramsey, and DeRon Furr all said hello and will have us know that they never got into fights with teammates at practice.
Lee Ziemba didn't beat up Coleman and send him to the hospital.
I miss the old days when he counted towards 4 or 5 recruiting classes.
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(http://www.tigersx.com/images/keepCalm21.jpg)
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What it looks like to be polar opposite than al.cuminagoatsmouth
http://www.espn.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/118906/malzahn-takes-control-of-future-at-auburn-by-cutting-jovon-robinson-loose
Malzahn takes control of Auburn future by cutting Jovon Robinson loose
Alex Scarborough
ESPN Staff Writer
When Auburn coach Gus Malzahn looked upon the disappointment of finishing 7-6 last season, he knew he had to change. No more being the CEO, he decided. The hands-off policy was thrown out the window. Malzahn would stick to what he knows best -- “I’m a football coach, not a CEO,†he said -- and in doing so he’d take back control of the program.
Well, this is what control looks like. It’s opening fall camp without your best offensive weapon after dismissing starting running back Jovon Robinson. It’s saying of Robinson, point blank: “We’re going to have zero distractions on this team this year.†Period.
Forget the messy situation at quarterback. Forget those young receivers. Forget that there’s talk of being on the hot seat. Malzahn looked at Robinson’s missed classes and meetings and had enough. His workhorse had to go.
According to ESPN’s Brett McMurphy, it was partly Robinson’s “continued inattention to detail†that cost him. If there isn't more to the story, that’s relatively small beans compared to some of the issues around the league that lead to suspensions, never mind outright dismissals. But it signals that Malzahn isn’t messing around. It sends a message to that locker room and the school's fan base that if Auburn is going to win again under Malzahn, it’s going to do it his way.
And vice versa: If Auburn is going to lose, then it’s not going to be like it was last year. We weren’t going to see a repeat of the Duke Williams situation, when he was given second, third and fourth chances to clean up his act. It was clear that Malzahn was fed up with the prodigious receiver last year, but he and the staff were continually swayed by Williams’ All-SEC ability. They needed him right up until five games into the season when they had to cut him loose.
Malzahn needed Robinson in the same way, maybe more, and now he’s gone. Now it’s up to Malzahn to figure out whether he has another featured back on the roster or whether a running back by committee is necessary.
Kerryon Johnson has some explosive ability, but durability is a concern. Big Kamryn Pettway was playing fullback less than a year ago, so there will be a learning curve. Former Baylor signee Kam Martin is certainly an option, but he’s young and undersized.
Make no mistake, though, none of them are Jovon Robinson at this point. He was going to be the player the offense was built around and now they’re back to square one with a month until they host Clemson, a likely top-five team.
But whatever direction Auburn goes from here, one thing is clear: Malzahn will be the one steering the ship, both hands firmly on the wheel.
Nothing, not even his own coaching livelihood, is distracting him from that.
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We good at RB
Roc Thomas leaves...welcome former Baylor 4* RB Kam Martin
Jovon Robinson gets kicked off the team (discipline and attendance issues)...welcome 4* Ath Stephen Davis Jr (6'3" 215lb)
http://youtu.be/OHmK_RWjZpo
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I'm putting the Baylor transfer down for 1200 yards. On paper we should get 700 or so from the others. Add around 2500 passing yards from our elite group of QB's and we have all the makings for a championship run. What's more...we have Kerryon in the redzone. And if any of you can recall, only Gushlee can stop him. Somebody saddle my unicorn, I'm ready to ride.
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You fucking up the rotation, jmar. It's puff, puff, pass.
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http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/sports/college/sec/auburn-university/war-eagle-extra/article93899387.html (http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/sports/college/sec/auburn-university/war-eagle-extra/article93899387.html)
War Eagle Extra August 5, 2016 9:58 AM
Former Auburn running back Jovon Robinson dismissal was result of numerous summer discipline issues according to former coach
By Michael Niziolek
mniziolek@ledger-enquirer.com
AUBURN, Ala. —
Former Auburn running back Jovon Robinson’s dismissal from the program was the culmination of numerous discipline issues through the team’s summer workouts.
Robinson’s former Georgia Military College coach Bert Williams said the situation with Robinson goes back to late May or early June. There was an incident with teammates that the GMC coach said made Auburn’s “staff unhappy.â€
“It put him in a tenuous position early in the summer,†Williams said declining to get into specifics. Robinson was disciplined but given the opportunity to get back in good standing for fall camp. “He had some things he had to do to get back in the good graces of the team’s leaders and coaches,†Williams said. Robinson failed to meet those standards when in July there was what Williams described as a “final incident.†“I do know he was a distraction,†Williams said. “I can’t speak to the level of distraction he was perceived to be by the coaches, but a head coach doesn’t remove someone, especially a difference-maker, lightly.â€
The GMC coach’s account differs than the one Robinson told AL.com’s James Crepea on Thursday. He called himself 'stereotyped and disrespected†and said his dismissal was the result of an overreaction by the coaching staff related to last year’s issues with D’haquille Williams.
Auburn coach Gus Malzahn has declined to offer any details about what led to his decision when he announced the news Wednesday. He reiterated that position again on Thursday when asked if he had any response to Robinson’s comments. The university didn’t respond to multiple requests from the Ledger-Enquirer for comment Friday morning.
Williams wouldn’t speak to the report from ESPN that the specific issue for Robinson was missing practices and classes. The coach did describe Robinson as an intelligent and capable student who had no academic issues during his time at GMC where the school has strict policies about academic attendance. “We are probably one of the more difficult junior colleges out there,†Williams said. “You have to be a cadet and that means you need to have a certain amount of discipline. If a student misses a class they are immediately punished. There’s a zero absence policy.â€
Williams audibly sighed when asked what his reaction was when he heard the news. “The biggest thing is disappointment,†Williams said from his office Friday. “Tough background or not, everyone has a choice. For any college football player that’s provided a scholarship at a high level you want for nothing period. No reason for a student-athlete to get in line with the regulations. Participation isn’t a right and I think that’s something every athlete needs to hear.â€
Robinson had a tough road to Auburn off the field. His father Jeffery Robinson was killed by the Memphis Police Department in a botched drug raid. The family was awarded nearly $3 million by a federal jury. He committed to Auburn coming out of high school, but an academic scandal at Wooddale — one of the school’s advisors altered Robinson’s grades — made him ineligible. The running back’s two-year detour to GMC was a successful one. He was the 2013 NJCAA national player of the year with 2,387 yards and 34 touchdowns.
Robinson’s first year at Auburn had its fair share of challenges including an ankle injury in the season-opener against Louisville, but he worked to earn the trust of the coaching staff and was expected to carry the load for the Tigers’ offense this season. “I think he's probably a little more conscientious now then when he was when he first got here,†Auburn running backs coach Tim Horton said this spring. “He understands, 'Hey, I've got to practice and prepare for this in order to perform.’ He's doing those things well now that he might not have done as much when he first got here.â€
Williams was excited to hear the positive reports on Robinson coming out of Auburn’s spring camp. “I was hopeful,†Williams said. “He had a strong offseason of spring drills as far as the work was concerned and responding to the coaching staff. Everything was in order. He was heading to an outstanding year.â€
Williams hasn’t talked to Robinson since his former running back was dismissed from the team, but has worked to get a handle on what happen. Once the news broke about Robinson’s dismissal, Williams has been bombarded with calls from Division II and NAIA teams looking to find out more about the former Auburn standout. “They want to know what is going on,†Williams said. “I had at least 100 calls from programs that want to get him in. I want to be able to be honest with them.â€
Williams isn’t sure what Robinson’s next step is, but acknowledged the Memphis, Tennessee native has limited options. “He either has to drop down or sit out and hope for an opportunity in the Canadian Football League or NFL,†Williams said. “It’s really a or b.†Williams didn’t sugarcoat Robinson’s chances. “It’s never just about talent,†Williams said. “Teams don’t want distractions. They don’t want problems, they want problem-solvers.â€
Michael Niziolek: 334-332-8572, mniziolek@ledger-enquirer.com, @wareagleextra
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The GMC coach’s account differs than the one Robinson told AL.com’s James Crepea on Thursday.
WELL NO SHIT!!!....ya think.
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Holding my breath for the al.commz retraction update. Starting Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnow.
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Will the streak continue?
Auburn's 1,000 yard rushers since 2009
2015: Peyton Barber
2014: Cameron Artis-Payne — 1,608 yards, 13 TDs
2013: Tre Mason — 1,835 yards, 23 TDs
2013: Nick Marshall — 1,068 yards, 12 TDs
2012: Tre Mason — 1,002 yards, 8 TDs
2011: Mike Dyer — 1,242 yards, 10 TDs
2010: Cam Newton — 1,473 yards, 20 TDs
2010: Mike Dyer — 1,093 yards, 5 TDs
2009: Ben Tate — 1,362 yards, 10 TDs
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WELL NO SHIT!!!....ya think.
Well, it seems all the earth can report news one way but it is only al.cuminyercousinsear news that matters around here.
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Will the streak continue?
Auburn's 1,000 yard rushers since 2009
2015: Peyton Barber
2014: Cameron Artis-Payne — 1,608 yards, 13 TDs
2013: Tre Mason — 1,835 yards, 23 TDs
2013: Nick Marshall — 1,068 yards, 12 TDs
2012: Tre Mason — 1,002 yards, 8 TDs
2011: Mike Dyer — 1,242 yards, 10 TDs
2010: Cam Newton — 1,473 yards, 20 TDs
2010: Mike Dyer — 1,093 yards, 5 TDs
2009: Ben Tate — 1,362 yards, 10 TDs
I say yes.
There are plenty of capable backs on the roster, they simply lack experience.
In fact, I'll call it: Pettway for the 1K.
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I say yes.
There are plenty of capable backs on the roster, they simply lack experience.
In fact, I'll call it: Pettway for the 1K.
You just like to rhyme. I say Kerryon will carry on the tradition.
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We good at RB
Roc Thomas leaves...welcome former Baylor 4* RB Kam Martin
Jovon Robinson gets kicked off the team (discipline and attendance issues)...welcome 4* Ath Stephen Davis Jr (6'3" 215lb)
http://youtu.be/OHmK_RWjZpo
I will be surprised to see him much on the field at RB, although I should know that your skreetz are....well, anyway, we originally recruited him at safety I believe.
But, he has the blood line.
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Will the streak continue?
Auburn's 1,000 yard rushers since 2009
2015: Peyton Barber
2014: Cameron Artis-Payne — 1,608 yards, 13 TDs
2013: Tre Mason — 1,835 yards, 23 TDs
2013: Nick Marshall — 1,068 yards, 12 TDs
2012: Tre Mason — 1,002 yards, 8 TDs
2011: Mike Dyer — 1,242 yards, 10 TDs
2010: Cam Newton — 1,473 yards, 20 TDs
2010: Mike Dyer — 1,093 yards, 5 TDs
2009: Ben Tate — 1,362 yards, 10 TDs
I would say not improbable but doubtful. I think we will be running back by committee.
Then again though I wouldn't have said at this time last year that Barber gets 1000.
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WTH...put me down for 1000 on Malik Miller
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Put me down for a ten spot on Davis Jr. Gus will actually give him a chance to run the ball if hes running well at least in the first half
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You fucking up the rotation, jmar. It's puff, puff, pass.
This is why I voted for disciplinary action against him. He does way more puffing than passing, as evidenced by his recent post re: passing yards and unicorns.
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Kerryon will be a 1000 yard rusher for us this year, if he stays healthy.
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ok, since you people are forcing the issue and I know damn well that you can't wait to hear what I think. Kam Pettway, or as us insiders call him--"Bubba", is your next 1k rusher, although it will be by committee.
And Carryon will get over 1k combined yardage.
Bubba gonna be a bruiser.
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ok, since you people are forcing the issue and I know damn well that you can't wait to hear what I think. Kam Pettway, or as us insiders call him--"Bubba", is your next 1k rusher, although it will be by committee.
And Carryon will get over 1k combined yardage.
Bubba gonna be a bruiser.
I just hope he hits as well as the Pettway that played for coarch sabbin.
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Interesting take by a former coach.
Rick Neuheisel: 'I think Gus Malzahn is having an epiphany'
For the second year in a row, Auburn has booted a key offensive weapon in fall camp, but Gus Malzahn says things will be different this year, and Rick Neuheisel believes him.
Malzahn would only say starting running back Jovon Robinson didn’t meet standards. ESPN reported Robinson missed classes and meetings. That’s different than when Duke Williams was dismissed last year only after several off-field incidents. On his SiriusXM show Thursday, Neuheisel said Malzahn is realizing you can’t work around problems.
“I have no inside information. I’m just going to tell you my gut instinct as a former head coach at the Division I level,†Neuheisel opened. “Gus Malzahn is having an epiphany. He’s realizing as he’s gone on in his role at Auburn that despite the talent level of kids on your team, you have to have guys that are good teammates. You have to have guys that are comfortable. Otherwise, the team will fragment.
“… Gus is realizing, I can’t do that anymore. While it may have some negative repercussions in the short-term — who’s going to be their running back? — in the long-term, it’s great news for Auburn fans, that Gus Malzahn is not letting the tail wag the dog. He is taking charge.â€
Malzahn, for his part, didn’t say much Wednesday night. He wouldn't disclose details and only said, "We're going to have zero distractions on this team this year. I've given him his release and we wish him the best."
Back in 2014, defensive back Jermaine Whitehead was suspended for four games after an altercation with former defensive backs coach Charlie Harbison. Duke Williams had been suspended multiple times before getting kicked off the team last year. Now, Malzahn isn’t putting up with that, even as he faces pressure after last year's 7-6 record.
“What you heard him say there, this year, I’m not doing this anymore,†Neuheisel said. “If I go down, I’m going down doing it my way. This year, we’re not having these kinds of distractions. I’m not having this. This is a loud and clear message to everybody on that football team that you’re going to do it our way or you’re out. I don’t care how good you are. He’s learned that over the years the hard way, and now he’s putting it to the test. I applaud him for it.â€
Auburn opens the season with Clemson, Arkansas State, Texas A&M and LSU at home, so that’ll be put to the test quickly.
Once again this goes back to what Kaos had said Gus is learning on the job. Which isn't bad but, can we wait for him to figure it all out?
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Interesting take by a former coach.
Once again this goes back to what Kaos had said Gus is learning on the job. Which isn't bad but, can we wait for him to figure it all out?
Which goes back to who we are. Are we the "one bad year and you're gone" wanna be super power? Or are we the "give coaches time to grow and develop over the years" Auburn?
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Which goes back to who we are. Are we the "one bad year and you're gone" wanna be super power? Or are we the "give coaches time to grow and develop over the years" Auburn?
Fame </= Stability.
I tend to lean towards stability. I mean is that not what most households strive for? That shit just does not happen overnight. It too is learning on the job.
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As a former slow ass walk on, it befuddles the mind that some of these kids have that level of talent and piss it away.
But I guess that is true in life.
I don't blame Malzhan.
As a fan, I am frustrated over this. JR was supposed to light it up this season. The way he ran in a crappy season gave me hope that when we are clicking, this guy could be the next Brent Fullwood. Frustrating!
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This is why I voted for disciplinary action against him. He does way more puffing than passing, as evidenced by his recent post re: passing yards and unicorns.
I might sample some herb but you mofo's are on some new designer drugs with these thousand yard predictions from our limited depth chart or our skinny wildcat.
C'mon! We have a little talent with even less star power.
Am I pulling for them? Absolutely! Can we get it done? Sure, but it's unlikely at this juncture.
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I might sample some herb but you mofo's are on some new designer drugs with these thousand yard predictions from our limited depth chart or our skinny wildcat.
C'mon! We have a little talent with even less star power.
Am I pulling for them? Absolutely! Can we get it done? Sure, but it's unlikely at this juncture.
I'd say if one guy establishes himself, as is usually the case with Malzahn's offenses, there's a real good shot. The system is built for it and we are big time stout up the middle on the offensive line. I've heard more than one "expert" say Kozan and Smith are the best guard tandem in the league.
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I'd say if one guy establishes himself, as is usually the case with Malzahn's offenses, there's a real good shot. The system is built for it and we are big time stout up the middle on the offensive line. I've heard more than one "expert" say Kozan and Smith are the best guard tandem in the league.
I will buy this BUT, it will take some semblance of a passing game and a QB that can adequately run.
A healthy white boy is my pick as the starter vs Clemson.
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I will buy this BUT, it will take some semblance of a passing game and a QB that can adequately run.
A healthy white boy is my pick as the starter vs Clemson.
We did last year without either one.
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We did last year without either one.
I was meandering with thoughts re: what it will take to have a good season and not just a 1k rusher. Regardless, why don't you just shut up? Let me handle the football analysis. Idiot.
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I was meandering with thoughts re: what it will take to have a good season and not just a 1k rusher. Regardless, why don't you just shut up? Let me handle the football analysis. Idiot.
I have an extra spatula at the house if you need to get the egg off your face.
Prowler mic drop!
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I have an extra spatula at the house if you need to get the egg off your face.
Prowler mic drop!
I know where the spatula at your house is but thanks.
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I know where the spatula at your house is but thanks.
toosh
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Just for the record?
I haven't given up. I haven't packed it in. i haven't thrown in the towel. Okay, I might have at least stacked a few things up in preparation and found a properly weighted towel just right for hurling, but that's all. Doesn't mean I can't see writing on the wall. No quarterback that even looks like he's SEC caliber -- and the last one we had was a converted DB who went through juco. So how come in essentially eight years of association with Auburn Gus Malzahn cannot recruit an SEC caliber QB? Trotter, Moseley, Johnson, Pike, Burns, Frazier, Wallace, Franklin, White... anybody else? Our top RB dismissed. A defense that hasn't looked like much of anything for almost a decade. My expectations have changed.
I'm not quitting on Malzahn. In case you haven't noticed, I've found good things to say about every coach all the way back to Bowden. Doesn't mean I see big issues with his approach to things, trends that alarm me, a significant failure to understand the task. He can talk about going back to the chalkboard and coaching as opposed to being CEO. He's WrrrrrrrrrrONG. If he has to do the grunt work himself, then he lacks the ability to make quality hires. A program at this level needs a CEO, one who imposes his vision on the program and makes sure that the people he puts in charge of things execute his plan exactly as he wants. He doesn't need to call plays, but he needs to have the final say in critical situations. If he wants to call plays and be "that" guy, he needs to be OC and let somebody else run the show. If I'm doing an eval of my employees and they have authority over others and they're doing as much or more actual "work" than their subordinates? I know they're fucking up. I've had that type try to impress me with their own production and I just don't care. I only care about the collective of their group. I don't do any actual "work" any longer at all. I just make sure that each of the departments I have are doing what they're supposed to do (and all the contracts, negotiations, etc. that have to be done). Hell, I sleep until at least 5:30 most mornings now.
I'm not saying Malzahn made the wrong decision on Robinson. In today's climate, if he had an altercation with a woman as is being alleged? Yeah, he had to go. No question, no other choice. Right call. But it's troubling to have the top returning offensive threat one year be a complete clown fuck up and nearly break the team and the next year be a complete clown fuck up who got himself booted. I know "it happens on every team" but it isn't usually the guy you're counting on to be THE weapon. How hard would we laugh at Saban's monkey ass and how much glee would we take in the foundation cracks if he'd booted Derrick Henry last fall and bumbled around with a sulking Amari Cooper the year before? Yeah, he had to kick Robinson to the curb, but the fact that he HAS to and for the second straight year is dealing with a major discipline issue with a major potential contributor..... well, it seems to me that something internally isn't being handled the right way.
I'm not giving up hope.
I just don't think I want to strive to be "them" any longer.
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:facepalm:
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/auburn-rb-season-knee-injury/
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:facepalm:
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/auburn-rb-season-knee-injury/
Actually makes me feel better about the RB situation. This wasn't a new injury and they're choosing to opt for surgery at this time.
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Actually makes me feel better about the RB situation. This wasn't a new injury and they're choosing to opt for surgery at this time.
^^This. I don't think Davis was going to be in the rotation this year and was getting time there for depth purposes only. I still think he ends up at safety.
But, Simps post led me to this: http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/tre-mason-found-florida-2016/
This reporter really pushes the issue and looks like a total bitch, imo. I didn't know about Mason telling officers that he'd call the White House to get them fired or about him reportedly saying that he knew they trained al-Qaeda. He's got troubles. We've possibly seen the last of him in NFL but I hope he can get the help he needs. I'm thinking the spice may of got him.
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Just for the record?
I haven't given up. I haven't packed it in. i haven't thrown in the towel. Okay, I might have at least stacked a few things up in preparation and found a properly weighted towel just right for hurling, but that's all. Doesn't mean I can't see writing on the wall. No quarterback that even looks like he's SEC caliber -- and the last one we had was a converted DB who went through juco. So how come in essentially eight years of association with Auburn Gus Malzahn cannot recruit an SEC caliber QB? Trotter, Moseley, Johnson, Pike, Burns, Frazier, Wallace, Franklin, White... anybody else? Our top RB dismissed. A defense that hasn't looked like much of anything for almost a decade. My expectations have changed.
I'm not quitting on Malzahn. In case you haven't noticed, I've found good things to say about every coach all the way back to Bowden. Doesn't mean I see big issues with his approach to things, trends that alarm me, a significant failure to understand the task. He can talk about going back to the chalkboard and coaching as opposed to being CEO. He's WrrrrrrrrrrONG. If he has to do the grunt work himself, then he lacks the ability to make quality hires. A program at this level needs a CEO, one who imposes his vision on the program and makes sure that the people he puts in charge of things execute his plan exactly as he wants. He doesn't need to call plays, but he needs to have the final say in critical situations. If he wants to call plays and be "that" guy, he needs to be OC and let somebody else run the show. If I'm doing an eval of my employees and they have authority over others and they're doing as much or more actual "work" than their subordinates? I know they're fucking up. I've had that type try to impress me with their own production and I just don't care. I only care about the collective of their group. I don't do any actual "work" any longer at all. I just make sure that each of the departments I have are doing what they're supposed to do (and all the contracts, negotiations, etc. that have to be done). Hell, I sleep until at least 5:30 most mornings now.
I'm not saying Malzahn made the wrong decision on Robinson. In today's climate, if he had an altercation with a woman as is being alleged? Yeah, he had to go. No question, no other choice. Right call. But it's troubling to have the top returning offensive threat one year be a complete clown fuck up and nearly break the team and the next year be a complete clown fuck up who got himself booted. I know "it happens on every team" but it isn't usually the guy you're counting on to be THE weapon. How hard would we laugh at Saban's monkey ass and how much glee would we take in the foundation cracks if he'd booted Derrick Henry last fall and bumbled around with a sulking Amari Cooper the year before? Yeah, he had to kick Robinson to the curb, but the fact that he HAS to and for the second straight year is dealing with a major discipline issue with a major potential contributor..... well, it seems to me that something internally isn't being handled the right way.
I'm not giving up hope.
I just don't think I want to strive to be "them" any longer.
A few things here that need addressing. 1. Why did you ever strive to be "them" in the first place? Srsly. If when I die, we aren't better than even in the series, I don't know if I will be disappointed but I doubt I'll be thinking about it. I think about it now but mostly, I'm thinking about the Clemson game.
2. Gus isn't wrong about taking the offense back over. He needs to dance with what brung him. He's a play caller. That's one of his four tays. He can do that and manage the team. Others have and so can he.
3. I agree that the roller coaster of QB situation since he's been oc or hc at AU is very concerning. I don't get why he doesn't just move on from Lash and get an oc that can better evaluate and develop qb's. I suspect he's too loyal.
But we all should forget his releasing Robinson and Duke. Criticize his taking the chance on them if you wish but not booting them. I think they were worth the risk and I'm glad he gave them a chance. They both blew it. Not Gus' fault. He had to do what was best for the team in both instances. It comes with the territory when you recruit guys that are rough around the edges.
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I'm thinking the spice may of got him.
Either that or CTE.
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I have an extra spatula at the house if you need to get the egg off your face.
Prowler mic drop!
#Boom
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A few things here that need addressing. 1. Why did you ever strive to be "them" in the first place? Srsly. If when I die, we aren't better than even in the series, I don't know if I will be disappointed but I doubt I'll be thinking about it. I think about it now but mostly, I'm thinking about the Clemson game.
2. Gus isn't wrong about taking the offense back over. He needs to dance with what brung him. He's a play caller. That's one of his four tays. He can do that and manage the team. Others have and so can he.
3. I agree that the roller coaster of QB situation since he's been oc or hc at AU is very concerning. I don't get why he doesn't just move on from Lash and get an oc that can better evaluate and develop qb's. I suspect he's too loyal.
But we all should forget his releasing Robinson and Duke. Criticize his taking the chance on them if you wish but not booting them. I think they were worth the risk and I'm glad he gave them a chance. They both blew it. Not Gus' fault. He had to do what was best for the team in both instances. It comes with the territory when you recruit guys that are rough around the edges.
Like Dye, I'm good with beating everybody and splitting with them.
Agree about Gus. He can do both. And somebody takes a chance on these kids...might as well be us. Find a leader. Get a backup. Fuck the wildcat.
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A few things here that need addressing. 1. Why did you ever strive to be "them" in the first place? Srsly. If when I die, we aren't better than even in the series, I don't know if I will be disappointed but I doubt I'll be thinking about it. I think about it now but mostly, I'm thinking about the Clemson game.
2. Gus isn't wrong about taking the offense back over. He needs to dance with what brung him. He's a play caller. That's one of his four tays. He can do that and manage the team. Others have and so can he.
3. I agree that the roller coaster of QB situation since he's been oc or hc at AU is very concerning. I don't get why he doesn't just move on from Lash and get an oc that can better evaluate and develop qb's. I suspect he's too loyal.
But we all should forget his releasing Robinson and Duke. Criticize his taking the chance on them if you wish but not booting them. I think they were worth the risk and I'm glad he gave them a chance. They both blew it. Not Gus' fault. He had to do what was best for the team in both instances. It comes with the territory when you recruit guys that are rough around the edges.
"Trying to be them" is a little misleading I guess. I know in my heart and from my own experience that when they aren't allowed to cheat like mad bastards, we own them. It's just when things get like they are now and like they were in the 70s when they roll out all the talent money can buy and it's disheartening. It's boring. I don't really want to BE them, necessarily, I just want to play by the same set of rules. I get tired of watching them brag and boast and steal trophies.
I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on Gus taking over the play-calling duties. A long time ago when I was first put in charge of a furniture store the owner was down for a few days. He looked around, brought me some new signage, some new displays and gave me some advice on how to redesign the sales floor. I wanted to do a good job and I worked all day moving furniture, assembling stuff, tearing down the old signage and putting up the new. Assembled bedroom sets, put legs on furniture, pulled stuff out of the back. Dirty, sweaty, messed up. Worked my ass off all day, like a dog. Boss comes back in because we're going to dinner to go over some stuff. He was pissed. Best lesson I ever learned. I could either work or I could manage. I could not do both well. So if I was going to rearrange furniture myself, he would hire a manager. Or I could manage and make sure the work was done by others.
Same with Gus. Look at Jacobs as the CEO. He does. Gus is in charge of one division. He's got sales guys (the offense) and support techs (the defense). He CANNOT be the one making the sales calls. If he is, then he's wasting resources.
I don't disagree with him dismissing anybody. His call. I DO have a problem, however, when people who are supposed to be significant contributors crash and burn. Jeremy Johnson got pumped like a motherfucker. In the Heisman conversation prior to last season and Gus did nothing to tone that down. His swelled head destroyed him. Duke had an attitude that wasn't controlled. Now Robinson has some kind of attitude issue. That's almost an entire offense ruined. Add Dyer to that mix. Add him hyping Trotter and Cam as "dead even." Add him struggling to choose between Frazier, Trotter, Moseley. His judgment is fucking suspect. Seriously fucking suspect. And Flashlee's is even worse. That cat doesn't know his ass from a burnt biscuit.
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Either that or CTE.
I thought he was bottomfeeder.
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Stephen Davis is out for the season. Second straight season he won't get to play while rehabbing injuries.
Jeeeeeeez.
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Actually makes me feel better about the RB situation. This wasn't a new injury and they're choosing to opt for surgery at this time.
From a depth point of view, it still sucks. I wasn't really thinking he was going to push for carries or anything but, like I said, my concern is the depth at RB after 1 week of fall camp.
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From a depth point of view, it still sucks. I wasn't really thinking he was going to push for carries or anything but, like I said, my concern is the depth at RB after 1 week of fall camp.
It ain't worryin' me a lick. It's just next man up. And the next men up are Eugene Govan, Cedric Chambers and C.J. Tolbert.
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It ain't worryin' me a lick. It's just next man up. And the next men up are Eugene Govan, Cedric Chambers and C.J. Tolbert.
Who?
In all seriousness, yes it is the next man up. I mean, when the door opens up, you best walk through with confidence because that opportunity may never become available again. I get that.
As a coach, I am wondering how much concern there is, if any. Your totally unsettled at the QB spot and have been since last year, you have lost your main two RBs from last year, the seat you sit in is hot as hell, and you have a new DC running the show on that side of the ball. Holy shit, thats a lot to be concerned about.
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Who?
In all seriousness, yes it is the next man up. I mean, when the door opens up, you best walk through with confidence because that opportunity may never become available again. I get that.
As a coach, I am wondering how much concern there is, if any. Your totally unsettled at the QB spot and have been since last year, you have lost your main two RBs from last year, the seat you sit in is hot as hell, and you have a new DC running the show on that side of the ball. Holy shoot, thats a lot to be concerned about.
Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man is here. We need a live...is it a live rooster? We're dealing with a lot of shit here!
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Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man is here. We need a live...is it a live rooster? We're dealing with a lot of shit here!
You don't want a ballplayer; you want a stable pony.
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Stephen Davis is out for the season. Second straight season he won't get to play while rehabbing injuries.
Jeeeeeeez.
Thanks for the breaking news.
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Where is a Reid McMillan when we really need one?
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Where is JR going to end up?
I wish him success. I just wish he could have held it together long enough to go crazy later...like TRE!
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It can happen.....Who saw this coming?
https://youtu.be/oR0LHv4cfjg
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Where is a Reid McMillan when we really need one?
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
(http://4.darkroom.shortlist.com/980/f415a094ac5f2284d23584f4b2ffb7f4:85eca4c330fa30d645887aab7777e412/obi-wan-kenobi-a-new-hope)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_cAGXrMjg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_cAGXrMjg)
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Hey 6, I know this is a Debbie Downer negative based on the video you posted. But this is a prime example of why Tiny Tot Bowden turned out to be an epic FAIL as a head coach at the D1 level.
He had the perfect formula. The perfect blend of players and play calling. But...he tried to do exactly what he said he would...try to run his Diddy's offense.
He scrapped the Reid McMillan's, the Stephen Davis', the James Bostick's,and Fred Beasley, and opted for the Rusty Williams, Cencade Penningtons and Markeith Cooper's of the world. He took what got him to 20-1-1 in the first two years....balled it up and threw it in the trash. Fuck him!!!!
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Don't you dare dis the Lizard!
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Hey 6, I know this is a Debbie Downer negative based on the video you posted. But this is a prime example of why Tiny Tot Bowden turned out to be an epic FAIL as a head coach at the D1 level.
He had the perfect formula. The perfect blend of players and play calling. But...he tried to do exactly what he said he would...try to run his Diddy's offense.
He scrapped the Reid McMillan's, the Stephen Davis', the James Bostick's,and Fred Beasley, and opted for the Rusty Williams, Cencade Penningtons and Markeith Cooper's of the world. He took what got him to 20-1-1 in the first two years....balled it up and threw it in the trash. Fuck him!!!!
Well to be fair, didn't Tommy leave after the second year?
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It ain't worryin' me a lick. It's just next man up. And the next men up are Eugene Govan, Cedric Chambers and C.J. Tolbert.
Eugene gonna tear it up bitch!
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Hey 6, I know this is a Debbie Downer negative based on the video you posted. But this is a prime example of why Tiny Tot Bowden turned out to be an epic FAIL as a head coach at the D1 level.
He had the perfect formula. The perfect blend of players and play calling. But...he tried to do exactly what he said he would...try to run his Diddy's offense.
He scrapped the Reid McMillan's, the Stephen Davis', the James Bostick's,and Fred Beasley, and opted for the Rusty Williams, Cencade Penningtons and Markeith Cooper's of the world. He took what got him to 20-1-1 in the first two years....balled it up and threw it in the trash. Fuck him!!!!
Y U NO LIKE DeMontray Carter .....5'10" 170lbs...he was so skinny he could run between the tackles, literally.
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Thanks for the breaking news.
Actually it was kind of breaking news. SDS had the story wrong, said Davis Jr, hurt his knee and was having surgery. In reality he had surgery last year, and really isn't confident enough in his knee yet. So they are giving him another year to rehab it.
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Actually it was kind of breaking news. SDS had the story wrong, said Davis Jr, hurt his knee and was having surgery. In reality he had surgery last year, and really isn't confident enough in his knee yet. So they are giving him another year to rehab it.
That's why you're the Godfather.
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Dismissed Auburn senior RB Jovon Robinson will play for Valdosta State during the 2016 season, according to Gridiron Now
Dude could have tore it up at Huntingdon.
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Actually it was kind of breaking news. SDS had the story wrong, said Davis Jr, hurt his knee and was having surgery. In reality he had surgery last year, and really isn't confident enough in his knee yet. So they are giving him another year to rehab it.
I knew all of that. That's precisely why I thanked him for it.
duh.