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Title: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUownsU on February 14, 2016, 12:42:59 PM
Craig to Red Stick. People saying that he and Rhett ain't Gucci. Gus chose Rhett. Yada yada yada...  This fucking blows.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 14, 2016, 01:02:52 PM
Craig to Red Stick. People saying that he and Rhett ain't Gucci. Gus chose Rhett. Yada yada yada...  This fucking blows.
If true, Gus should go ahead and start doing some research on reliable moving companies.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 14, 2016, 01:11:02 PM
Did Phillip write that piece? :oh:
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 14, 2016, 01:27:35 PM
Craig to Red Stick. People saying that he and Rhett ain't Gucci. Gus chose Rhett. Yada yada yada...  This fucking blows.

If this is real?  It's housecleaning time. 

I used to think the evil that pours from Tuscaloosa was our greatest enemy.   But we are our own. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 14, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
From a coaching standpoint, they can both walk.

Craig is the superior recruiter, obviously, so he's more valuable.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 14, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
From Tiger Tracks.  Bruce Feldman also quoted as saying Kodi Burns would be top candidate to replace Craig if he does go.

Auburn receivers coach Dameyune Craig has emerged as a “serious candidate” to join LSU’s staff, according to 247Sports.com.

Craig, a former Auburn quarterback now known as one of the nation’s top recruiters, just finished his third season as Auburn’s receivers coach. It’s unclear what title Craig would have with the Tigers.

LSU has openings for receivers coach and recruiting coordinator after the departures of Frank Wilson last month and receivers coach Tony Ball this week.

A source at LSU told The Advocate that the school is “still in the interview process” for the job openings. The Tigers announced the hire of running backs coach Jabbar Juluke on Saturday. FoxSports.com also Sunday reported that Craig is a “strong candidate” to join LSU’s staff.

Craig landed at Auburn after a three-year stint as receivers coach and recruiting coordinator at Florida State, where he led the Seminoles to a pair of top-5 signing classes. Craig is familiar with Baton Rouge. The Pritchard, Alabama, native began his collegiate coaching career as an offensive graduate assistant at LSU in 2004, Nick Saban’s last season with the Tigers.

Craig’s coaching stops also include the Miami Dolphins (2005), Tuskegee (2006-07) and South Alabama (2008-09). Craig makes $500,000 a year at Auburn in a contract that expires in June 2018, according to AL.com. Wilson made $675,000 a year as LSU’s running backs coach and recruiting coordinator. Ball made $310,000.

Craig helped recruit 2013 Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston while in Tallahassee . He was recognized as the 2012 Scout/FoxSportsNet ACC Recruiter of the Year as well as the Rivals.com ACC Recruiter of the Year. He was named one of the top 25 recruiters in the country by Rivals and one of the top 50 recruiters by 247Sports.

Craig tutored Florida State quarterbacks E.J. Manuel and Christian Ponder. Ponder and Manuel combined to throw for 2,905 yards while Ponder completed 61.5 percent of his passes and Manuel completed 69.9 percent of his passes. Ponder was a first-round pick of the Minnesota Vikings in the 2011 NFL Draft.

Craig played quarterback at Auburn from 1994-97, where he still holds numerous Auburn passing records, including completions (216) and passing yards (3,227) in a season as well as a single-game record for most net yards gained (445 vs. Army in 1996; 75 rush, 370 pass). Craig led Auburn to an 18-7 mark in 25 career starts.

He signed as a free agent quarterback with the NFL’s Carolina Panthers and appeared in six games over a four-year stretch.

Craig’s hire would be another inner-division move that’s becoming so familiar in the SEC West. LSU lost its last two defensive coordinators to SEC West rivals (John Chavis to Texas A&M last year and Kevin Steele to Auburn this year). The Tigers replaced Steele with Wisconsin’s Dave Aranda, a much-ballyhooed hire of one of the country’s up-and-coming defensive gurus.

Auburn also made a run at LSU defensive backs coach Corey Raymond last month. Coach Les Miles gave Raymond a one-year extension through the 2017 season and a $65,000 raise, making his yearly salary $375,000.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 14, 2016, 05:07:52 PM
I really hope we can keep DC. He's an elite recruiter and I think he's a good receiver's coach. Prob a good OC too but I don't know who was calling the plays this year. It seemed like Gus got more involved toward the end maybe.

Having said that, if he's willing to leave AU for a meager raise for a position coach job, I wouldn't get into a bidding war. He's paid pretty damn good and deserves credit.

But these position coaches making a qtr mil plus is ridiculous.

It doesn't seem that damn long ago that we were hiring Dick Sheridan away from NC State for around 300k and that was crazy money for a head football coach.

But Jacobs will cave and give him a lifetime contract and a piece of the gate, if history is any indicator. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Six on February 14, 2016, 05:42:32 PM
Official
From Bruce Feldman
#LSU makes it official hiring #Auburn co-OC Dameyune Craig: http://foxs.pt/1oC3hWO (http://foxs.pt/1oC3hWO)

Brandon Marcello adds

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8 assistants have left Auburn or been fired by Gus Malzahn since end of 2014 season. 5 coaches left voluntarily following 2015 season.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 14, 2016, 05:44:20 PM
Why don't we just swap the entire staff with LSU.  Les is a little Tubervilleish but that would be almost welcome after the recent rollercoaster rides. 

We been bitching about no defense.  They been bitching about no offense.  We'd both get what we wanted.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Six on February 14, 2016, 05:46:17 PM
Why don't we just swap the entire staff with LSU.  Les is a little Tubervilleish but that would be almost welcome after the recent rollercoaster rides. 

We been bitching about no defense.  They been bitching about no offense.  We'd both get what we wanted.

Seems about even on the QB trades too.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 14, 2016, 05:50:54 PM
If Gus didn't make an attempt to keep him by Cuttimg Lash's pay or whatever was necessary, then I blv PCT may be right.

Gus ain't helping himself. Fact that Rhett made more money than DC is crazy.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 14, 2016, 06:01:55 PM
Love what 6 posted about our own beat writer making sure to point out that 8 assistants in 2 years have left or been fired.  Take a look again at the piece I posted just before that from Tiger Tracks. That article alone shows 5 changes to Miles' staff.  Doesn't go into any assistants Chavis probably took with him to A&M or other changes on the staff.  But thanks for that, Brandon.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Townhallsavoy on February 14, 2016, 07:31:22 PM
For one, I must admit I don't know what the problems are behind the closed doors. Maybe Craig sucks. Maybe his cool guy image that attracts so many recruits is deleterious to the team once February ends. Maybe Lashlee is a great coach and QB developer and Malzahn has been hindered by poor coaching from the other assistants.

Two, this fucking blows. It's not a guarantee that an Auburn legacy (or two, TRob) will be a successful coach at Auburn. But this looks really bad on Malzahn's part, and if he doesn't get shit turned around quickly, the boosters are going to come for his head. Pissing off and running off former Auburn greats and beloved players is not going to sit well if you're going 7-6 while losing to all of our rivals.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: djsimp on February 14, 2016, 07:57:18 PM
For one, I must admit I don't know what the problems are behind the closed doors. Maybe Craig sucks. Maybe his cool guy image that attracts so many recruits is deleterious to the team once February ends. Maybe Lashlee is a great coach and QB developer and Malzahn has been hindered by poor coaching from the other assistants.

Two, this fucking blows. It's not a guarantee that an Auburn legacy (or two, TRob) will be a successful coach at Auburn. But this looks really bad on Malzahn's part, and if he doesn't get shit turned around quickly, the boosters are going to come for his head. Pissing off and running off former Auburn greats and beloved players is not going to sit well if you're going 7-6 while losing to all of our rivals.

Winning again can heal all these woes. If there isn't a good season for 2016, how much longer will Malzahn last?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Townhallsavoy on February 14, 2016, 08:00:52 PM
Winning again can heal all these woes. If there isn't a good season for 2016, how much longer will Malzahn last?

I think if Muschamp stayed and we had TRob and Craig on staff, Malzahn could have gotten away with a 9 win season. I think he needs to be in contention for the SEC championship come Iron Bowl time or he's out at this point. Nothing looks good about the program right now. Recruiting was up, but that was a big thanks to Craig.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 14, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
Alsuxcum just released an article confirm D.C. 'smove and a link to possible replacements. Burns, Balnkenship and Horton to start.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2016/02/potential_candidates_to_replace_dameyune_craig_auburn.html#incart_article_small
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 14, 2016, 08:10:40 PM
For one, I must admit I don't know what the problems are behind the closed doors. Maybe Craig sucks. Maybe his cool guy image that attracts so many recruits is deleterious to the team once February ends. Maybe Lashlee is a great coach and QB developer and Malzahn has been hindered by poor coaching from the other assistants.

Two, this fucking blows. It's not a guarantee that an Auburn legacy (or two, TRob) will be a successful coach at Auburn. But this looks really bad on Malzahn's part, and if he doesn't get shit turned around quickly, the boosters are going to come for his head. Pissing off and running off former Auburn greats and beloved players is not going to sit well if you're going 7-6 while losing to all of our rivals.

I love big words and I cannnot lie
But deleterious is way too high
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 14, 2016, 08:21:39 PM
I love big words and I cannnot lie
But deleterious is way too high
When you've been in college for over  20 years, you have to show off a little.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 14, 2016, 08:28:56 PM
I think if Muschamp stayed and we had TRob and Craig on staff, Malzahn could have gotten away with a 9 win season. I think he needs to be in contention for the SEC championship come Iron Bowl time or he's out at this point. Nothing looks good about the program right now. Recruiting was up, but that was a big thanks to Craig.
I don't think so. He's got more leeway than this.

But, losing DC didn't help his PR campaign any.

Good QB play this season will cure a lot of ills, hopefully. But the defense isn't going to magically become top 50 under a guy who got 70 run on him a few years ago, IMO.

I ain't real optimistic right now. I think losing TRob and\or Thompson for Steele had me scratching my head. But losing DC to become a position coach has me doing  :facepalm:. Over and over.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 14, 2016, 08:59:01 PM
Lashlee is becoming a heavy anchor...apparently Coach Malzahn didn't see what happened to Coach Tuberville and his BBQ Gang anchor.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 14, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
On Craig. 

http://gridironnow.com/why-dameyune-craig-could-leave-auburn-for-lsu/

Meanwhile, on the Plains, we get the retread Steele. (http://gridironnow.com/bob-shoops-hiring-a-bad-sign-for-auburn/)

With all of this, I'm thinking at best we do this year 5-7 w/ a bowl. Unless our D is shutting out folks.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 14, 2016, 09:26:38 PM
Lashlee is becoming a heavy anchor...apparently Coach Malzahn didn't see what happened to Coach Tuberville and his BBQ Gang anchor.
Keeping the recruiting class intact (especially the DLinemen) might buy an extra year but all of the staff changes had to impede the DC search and we settled. Now we lose the guy in Craig that could bring the difference makers to the offensive side of the ball while adding Hand and retaining Lashlee.
So all we lack now is a good drummer. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 14, 2016, 10:10:02 PM
I'm not worried about Kevin Steele in the least. He's been there, done that.  The thing I keep seeing people point to is the one game where shit blew up and WVU hung 70 on Clemson while he was at the helm.  But people kind of brush off the fact that Clemson also won the ACC that year.  One game where everything that could go wrong...does?  And it's a meaningless bowl game?  Anyone remember CTT, who probably had the best defenses over his tenure than any coach at Auburn?  Every now and then...usually against Arkansas...he'd lay and egg and they'd run wild.  Damn, Talley just ran by my window again.

Anywayz, not saying Steele is The Steel Curtain.  But he's seen it all.  From Nebraska to Bama to Carolina to LSU.  Give him some players, we'll be fine. Now, sorry.  I just had Steele on my mind.   Kevin, he's so hot right now. Kevin.

As for DC.  This, I don't get at all.  As WT said, to leave your Alma Tomater for an SECW rival for basically the same position is mind boggling.  Did we do anything to try and keep him?  The players he brings in by his recruiting alone is worth fighting for.  I've seen several comments about a Craig/Lashlee conflict.  Is that for real?  Interwebz rumor?  Has there been anything published?  It just seems so weak and frustrating to sign this guy and bring him "home", only to look up one day and see, "Oh rumor has it Craig might go to LSU...he gone".  WTF???? Question.  How pissed are the recruits he convinced to come here?  You know what?  They should be.  Don't know at who.....but...
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 14, 2016, 10:10:49 PM
Keeping the recruiting class intact (especially the DLinemen) might buy an extra year but all of the staff changes had to impede the DC search and we settled. Now we lose the guy in Craig that could bring the difference makers to the offensive side of the ball while adding Hand and retaining Lashlee.
So all we lack now is a good drummer. Any ideas?
We are settlers, son.
Tilling the land. Hoping for a fertile spring.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUChizad on February 14, 2016, 10:31:21 PM
Dumpster. Fire.

Auburn legend leaves for presumably a demotion (he was co-OC at Auburn) at division rival. And LSU isn't exactly the most stable of situations. Les was practically jetgated and the Governor of Louisiana is talking about dropping LSU football because the TOPS scholarships are falling through. This is a fuck you to Gus. And other former Auburn players are chiming in on Twitter to shit on Gus.

Heath Evans said:
Quote
The fact he's leaving tells AU fans a lot if they're willing to listen! 

to which Willie Anderson pulled a Prowler by replying:

Quote
#BOOOOOOOOM!!!! 

All our top recruiters are gone and we've replaced them with basically poo. Meanwhile Hall of Famer and proven NFL linebackers coach Kevin Greene has been fucking publicly begging Gus to let him join the staff and Gus basically told him to fuck himself.

Has Gus just gone retarded or what? What the fuck is going on?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 14, 2016, 11:12:17 PM
Great leaders surround themselves with people who are smarter than they are and let them work. 

Weak leaders are convinced they know it all and clash with anyone they feel gets too much credit. 

Amazingly we saw Chizik do both in a two year span.  Gus learned from that but he learned the wrong lesson. He's not going to keep anybody who is a threat to his own ego.  Lashlee is a pet. He can be controlled.  He's not going to challenge the amazing Gus.  As the genius who saw the writing on the wall and left only to return as savior a year later he's not going to let somebody do to him what he did to chizik.

And don't forget he was a head coach for one fucking year at a lower tier school.  He was not prepared for this position. We should have known.  But year one masked a lot of deficiencies and made us blind. 

Oh well.  I'm tired of pretending the dumpster isn't blazing.  Gonna roast marshmallows.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: djsimp on February 15, 2016, 01:43:55 AM
I think if Muschamp stayed and we had TRob and Craig on staff, Malzahn could have gotten away with a 9 win season. I think he needs to be in contention for the SEC championship come Iron Bowl time or he's out at this point. Nothing looks good about the program right now. Recruiting was up, but that was a big thanks to Craig.

Can't say I disagree with this. I think Prowler may be right on this and Malzahn's loyalt may do him in. The only changing factor in the equation here would be a good win category for Auburn in 2016. If not, the heating iron is at its hottest and we all know how that turns out.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Jumbo on February 15, 2016, 02:42:46 AM
Fuck Gus I hope he enjoys his buyout #bitch
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 15, 2016, 04:28:07 AM
I have this vision of Gus the organ grinder with his dancing monkey.
We fucked.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: War Eagle!!! on February 15, 2016, 08:11:42 AM

All our top recruiters are gone and we've replaced them with basically poo. Meanwhile Hall of Famer and proven NFL linebackers coach Kevin Greene has been fucking publicly begging Gus to let him join the staff and Gus basically told him to fuck himself.

Has Gus just gone retarded or what? What the fuck is going on?

That was pretty sweet that he replied to you on twitter. I wonder how he found that when you didn't even tag him?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 15, 2016, 08:26:32 AM
Let me just play saban's advocate here:
How many WRs have we had drafted over the last 3 years?  More than 20? No?
More than 10?  What's that you say?  No?
More than 5 has to be the answer, right?  Wait, are you sure?  No?
Sammie Coates.  Anyone else?  I'm not sure honestly, but I don't think so.
Anyone care to remember what the NFL scouts said about Coates during the combine?
Clicky my linky http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/sammie-coates?id=2552470 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/sammie-coates?id=2552470)
Doesn't sound like he was "coarched up" much on the Plains.
Duke Williams and Ricardo Louis may be drafted this year.  Maybe.
Anyone else?  Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Six on February 15, 2016, 08:54:00 AM
Iceberg, right ahead.

It will be amusing when both teams are in coach watch mode in October and coach search mode in December. There are four schools in contention to be finding another HC for 2017 season all in the same division. And that doesn't include Saban's pending retirement and handing the reigns over to Kiffin.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 15, 2016, 09:03:47 AM
Let me just play saban's advocate here:
How many WRs have we had drafted over the last 3 years?  More than 20? No?
More than 10?  What's that you say?  No?
More than 5 has to be the answer, right?  Wait, are you sure?  No?
Sammie Coates.  Anyone else?  I'm not sure honestly, but I don't think so.
Anyone care to remember what the NFL scouts said about Coates during the combine?
Clicky my linky http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/sammie-coates?id=2552470 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/sammie-coates?id=2552470)
Doesn't sound like he was "coarched up" much on the Plains.
Duke Williams and Ricardo Louis may be drafted this year.  Maybe.
Anyone else?  Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
I understand and the coaching ain't been stellar at the position. So, why not move him to QB coarch and co-OC. A position he actually played and coached a Heisman winner.

I hope there is more to the story but after sleeping on it, I don't feel any more Gucci about it.

If Gus actually chose Lash over DC? WTF?

We are prob talking about THE best recruiter that we've EVER had. And an AU legend to boot.

Now, having said all dat, could this be a childish tantrum that DC is throwing over some trivial stuff? Is he a pre Madonna his own self?

I kind of hope so.

I'm not roasting marshmallows yet. QB play and defense people. Two keys to this coming season. Listen to WT. If we get them, we may just be ok. If not, hop on yo bus, Gus. Get out the way, Jay.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUownsU on February 15, 2016, 09:05:01 AM
Since we Auburn fans are gonna lay all the blame on Gus and all former players love Auburn to the core, does this mean we can forgive Alan Evans and James Willis? I mean business is business, right? Surely James could see Chizik was in over his head from the get go and just did what was best for his career. I'm also sure Alan knew CEJ would be fired soon enough and he was just looking out for his son.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 15, 2016, 09:12:01 AM
Since we Auburn fans are gonna lay all the blame on Gus and all former players love Auburn to the core, does this mean we can forgive Alan Evans and James Willis? I mean business is business, right? Surely James could see Chizik was in over his head from the get go and just did what was best for his career. I'm also sure Alan knew CEJ would be fired soon enough and he was just looking out for his son.
You forgot Eric Ramsey. Let us bury all of these hatchets and let espn make a 30 for 30 about it.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: RottenBottom on February 15, 2016, 09:12:27 AM
And it's Kodi Burns.  I feel bad Gus is going to drag another one of my favorite Auburn players name through the mud.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 15, 2016, 09:12:59 AM
Let me just play saban's advocate here:
How many WRs have we had drafted over the last 3 years?  More than 20? No?
More than 10?  What's that you say?  No?
More than 5 has to be the answer, right?  Wait, are you sure?  No?
Sammie Coates.  Anyone else?  I'm not sure honestly, but I don't think so.
Anyone care to remember what the NFL scouts said about Coates during the combine?
Clicky my linky http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/sammie-coates?id=2552470 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/sammie-coates?id=2552470)
Doesn't sound like he was "coarched up" much on the Plains.
Duke Williams and Ricardo Louis may be drafted this year.  Maybe.
Anyone else?  Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
Yeah nobody ever touted Craig as a coaching whiz. And like Garner he's mainly a recruiter.
Our QB coach sucks as well whoever it is.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: CCTAU on February 15, 2016, 09:17:14 AM
Since we Auburn fans are gonna lay all the blame on Gus and all former players love Auburn to the core, does this mean we can forgive Alan Evans and James Willis? I mean business is business, right? Surely James could see Chizik was in over his head from the get go and just did what was best for his career. I'm also sure Alan knew CEJ would be fired soon enough and he was just looking out for his son.

Alan Evans? Really?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Six on February 15, 2016, 09:19:20 AM
Yeah nobody ever touted Craig as a coaching whiz. And like Garner he's mainly a recruiter.
Our QB coach sucks as well whoever it is.

Uhm...that us and has been Rhett since he came back with Gus. Rhett coaches the QBs and helps with the game plan. During the game, he watches the secondary, relays that to Gus, and Gus calls the plays. That is how it works for better or worse.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUownsU on February 15, 2016, 09:44:31 AM
What? You don't think Alan loved his Alma Mater? Hell he even hung around and ran a business around town. When it came to his son they made a "business" decision. Same with Craig. Same with Willis or am I missing something? If so, fine. Lets take Alan out of the picture. Does this mean we should be "Gucci" with James? Can't really blame him for not wanting to coach with Mr. 5-19.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Six on February 15, 2016, 09:52:16 AM
Can't really blame him for not wanting to coach with Mr. 5-19.

Stow that! That man brought us a National Championship and as such, you will respect that man.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 15, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
Stow that! That man brought us a National Championship and as such, you will respect that man.

I can't really address that right now.  I'll take a look at it and probably know more towards the end of the week.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 15, 2016, 10:08:30 AM
I can't really address that right now.  I'll take a look at it and probably know more towards the end of the week.
He has had a great week of practice though.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 15, 2016, 10:21:06 AM
What kills me is you people, yeah I said it, you people, are missing the obvious.  Gus is trying to make a slow, subtle transformation.  Not sure what the ultimate intent is but the process is becoming obvious.  Who on this staff now has ties to....cue dramatic music intro...DUN DUN DUN DUUUUNNNN....the State of Arkansas?

Gus Malzahn
Rhett Lashlee
Tim Horton
Kodi Burns
Ryan Russell
Ryan Aplin
Johnny Brewer G.A.
Austin Tucker G.A.

Coinkeedink?  I think not.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 15, 2016, 10:24:22 AM
Stow that! That man brourght us a National Championship and as such, you will respect that man.

You do mean this guy right?

(http://mit.zenfs.com/214/2011/10/Cam-Newton-Close-Up.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: dallaswareagle on February 15, 2016, 11:12:06 AM
So, we are bringing back (kodi) who was recruited as a QB, but couldn't do that so he changed to receiver so he could play. This is who is going to be coaching our receivers?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 15, 2016, 11:25:49 AM
So, we are bringing back (kodi) who was recruited as a QB, but couldn't do that so he changed to receiver so he could play. This is who is going to be coaching our receivers?

I smell a CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: CCTAU on February 15, 2016, 11:32:22 AM
What? You don't think Alan loved his Alma Mater? Hell he even hung around and ran a business around town. When it came to his son they made a "business" decision. Same with Craig. Same with Willis or am I missing something? If so, fine. Lets take Alan out of the picture. Does this mean we should be "Gucci" with James? Can't really blame him for not wanting to coach with Mr. 5-19.

And here I thought he was an alumni of UTC...
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 15, 2016, 12:04:35 PM
What kills me is you people, yeah I said it, you people, are missing the obvious.  Gus is trying to make a slow, subtle transformation.  Not sure what the ultimate intent is but the process is becoming obvious.  Who on this staff now has ties to....cue dramatic music intro...DUN DUN DUN DUUUUNNNN....the State of Arkansas?

Gus Malzahn
Rhett Lashlee
Tim Horton
Kodi Burns
Ryan Russell
Ryan Aplin
Johnny Brewer G.A.
Austin Tucker G.A.

Coinkeedink?  I think not.
Wooooooooo TIGER! Sooie!
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 15, 2016, 12:16:26 PM
So, we are bringing back (kodi) who was recruited as a QB, but couldn't do that so he changed to receiver so he could play. This is who is going to be coaching our receivers?

Well to be fair, I think a guy who actually played receiver might be more qualified than someone who only threw to receivers.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 15, 2016, 01:48:25 PM
My thought process so far:
Losing Muschamp: "Well, it was going to happen soon anyway. We knew he wanted to be HC again."
Not offering TRob or LT: "Gus must really have some strong candidates in mind."
Hiring Steele after a lull: "Maybe Steele is better than we think"
Losing Grimes: "To Cincy? Well, ahhhh, you know his son is a coach there. And all. Ahhhh, he's been sick"
Losing DC in a lateral to LSU: "This mofo done gone batshit crazy."

I'm trying to reserve judgement. We know that these guys are hired guns and it wouldn't be much different if we were coaches. It's business. Just hurt more with Craig.

Now, hiring Kodi? I'm scratching my head. I love Kodi but replacing arguably the best recruiter in the SEC with a guy with 2-3 yrs of experience on the field?

All is forgiven with maybe 9 or 10 wins and another top 10 recruiting class. Short of that, I'm out of bullets to defend Gustav.

We falter at qb and continue to suck hind  :tits: on d and have 8 or less wins, I will be out of patience.  :bar:
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 15, 2016, 01:48:51 PM
Can Kodi teach them how to block?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 15, 2016, 01:52:12 PM
What kills me is you people, yeah I said it, you people, are missing the obvious.  Gus is trying to make a slow, subtle transformation.  Not sure what the ultimate intent is but the process is becoming obvious.  Who on this staff now has ties to....cue dramatic music intro...DUN DUN DUN DUUUUNNNN....the State of Arkansas?

Gus Malzahn
Rhett Lashlee
Tim Horton
Kodi Burns
Ryan Russell
Ryan Aplin
Johnny Brewer G.A.
Austin Tucker G.A.

Coinkeedink?  I think not.
You do know that the Bear was from Arkansas, don't you?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUJarhead on February 15, 2016, 02:05:54 PM
Now, hiring Kodi? I'm scratching my head. I love Kodi but replacing arguably the best recruiter in the SEC with a guy with 2-3 yrs of experience on the field?

This hire was exactly what I thought would happen.  Lose a popular former player to a rival?  Bring in another popular former player to replace him.  The Creed/Family folks immediately forget that our head coach can't take a QB out of high school and make him serviceable, all they worry about is that he understands Auburn, and he just hired an Auburn man.

Creed!  Family!

Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Townhallsavoy on February 15, 2016, 02:16:24 PM
This hire was exactly what I thought would happen.  Lose a popular former player to a rival?  Bring in another popular former player to replace him.  The Creed/Family folks immediately forget that our head coach can't take a QB out of high school and make him serviceable, all they worry about is that he understands Auburn, and he just hired an Auburn man.

Creed!  Family!

And that attitude will keep Auburn in its place forever.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 15, 2016, 02:20:25 PM

Now, hiring Kodi? I'm scratching my head. I love Kodi but replacing arguably the best recruiter in the SEC with a guy with 2-3 yrs of experience on the field?


Hey, HEY... You just slow that train down, bucko. 

Gus Malzahn came in having been a head coach for ONE year at a dinky school.  And he dang near won a national championship his first season.  Just look at what he's done at a major program. 

Oh, wait... what?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Six on February 15, 2016, 02:31:31 PM
Gus Malzahn Coaching Career So Far

(https://cdn.fbsbx.com/hphotos-xtf1/v/t59.2708-21/11687914_10155701132165459_478913475_n.gif?oh=062dece35f0a29a8961d88a18cd54ba6&oe=56C3E885)
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 15, 2016, 06:57:29 PM
Quarterback.
We had Cam Newton when Gus was the OC and won the MNC in 2010.
I maintained then as I do now that our Superman made so many positive plays during the course of a game in that season that it made the play calling very easy, so much so we saw very few redzone failures and the insistence to use the wildcat as was the case this past season.

We saw something very similar under Gushlee with Nick Marshall at the helm in 2014. His ability to complete enough passes was sufficient but it was his skill with the read option, particularly the shotgun buck sweep which got us there by keeping the chains moving while lessening the number of times Gushee felt obligated to tinker with the offense while it was producing.

I have always wanted a QB at Auburn that could sling it around but now I am totally against that notion for as long as Gushlee is in town.  It was proven with the handling of Johnson and White which further proved to me that Auburn is, was and should be a run first team. We really need Hand to come through to make it work and if we are lucky, diffuse a few asshat play calls along the way. And if we can keep a healthy backfield maybe a QB emerges that can make it happen in a hurry.

What I do hate is the waste and mishandling of JJ and White. So I'm torn...because on the one hand we have two really good kids that bleed O&B while on the other I see that the success of Auburn lies squarely on our ability to have a running-assed QB that can take over a game. And for this reason along with the current staff defections I have very little regard for Gushlee. Don't know what the future holds but I can never feel the same about these two with the same regard as some others before them, no matter the outcome.

There, I said my part. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 15, 2016, 09:38:55 PM
Quarterback.
We had Cam Newton when Gus was the OC and won the MNC in 2010.
I maintained then as I do now that our Superman made so many positive plays during the course of a game in that season that it made the play calling very easy, so much so we saw very few redzone failures and the insistence to use the wildcat as was the case this past season.

We saw something very similar under Gushlee with Nick Marshall at the helm in 2014. His ability to complete enough passes was sufficient but it was his skill with the read option, particularly the shotgun buck sweep which got us there by keeping the chains moving while lessening the number of times Gushee felt obligated to tinker with the offense while it was producing.

I have always wanted a QB at Auburn that could sling it around but now I am totally against that notion for as long as Gushlee is in town.  It was proven with the handling of Johnson and White which further proved to me that Auburn is, was and should be a run first team. We really need Hand to come through to make it work and if we are lucky, diffuse a few asshat play calls along the way. And if we can keep a healthy backfield maybe a QB emerges that can make it happen in a hurry.

What I do hate is the waste and mishandling of JJ and White. So I'm torn...because on the one hand we have two really good kids that bleed O&B while on the other I see that the success of Auburn lies squarely on our ability to have a running-assed QB that can take over a game. And for this reason along with the current staff defections I have very little regard for Gushlee. Don't know what the future holds but I can never feel the same about these two with the same regard as some others before them, no matter the outcome.

There, I said my part.
Gushlee was there in 2010 (Rhett Lashlee was the QB graduate assistant).

With Gushlee here, it's obvious that a DTQB, like JF3 & Woody, is what we need. Someone like Cam & Marshall to make plays when the playcall is garbage.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 15, 2016, 11:10:58 PM
I can entertain plausible scenarios where the recent staff changes aren't indicators of a downward trend in our football program.

That said, Malzahn has the appearance of a guy chasing an inside straight.  The wagons appear to be circling and Gus looks to be trying to recapture lightning in a bottle. 

The win/loss results of this next year's football team, fair or not, will determine the length of his remaining tenure.  I hope he pulls out of the the PR tailspin.

Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUJarhead on February 15, 2016, 11:21:42 PM
Gushlee was there in 2010 (Rhett Lashlee was the QB graduate assistant).

With Gushlee here, it's obvious that a DTQB, like JF3 & Woody, is what we need. Someone like Cam & Marshall to make plays when the playcall is garbage.

Or a qb that learned how to be a qb from another coach, see Chris Todd.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUChizad on February 15, 2016, 11:31:28 PM
Kodi went from making $80k/yr as MTSU RB coach in his first year coaching at FBS level to making $400k/yr as Co-OC and WR coach at AU in 2 months.

CO-OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. That's full offensive.

Might as well have named him Supreme Chancellor of Awesome since titles obviously don't mean anything…

Executive Director of Kickassery.

Five Star Admiral of On Fleek.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 12:09:42 AM
Kodi went from making $80k/yr as MTSU RB coach in his first year coaching at FBS level to making $400k/yr as Co-OC and WR coach at AU in 2 months.

CO-OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. That's full offensive.

Might as well have named him Supreme Chancellor of Awesome since titles obviously don't mean anything…

Executive Director of Kickassery.

Five Star Admiral of On Fleek.
Assistant to the Regional Manager was already taken by Rhett Lashlee.

Regarding Burns' coaching career, he didn't go from MTSU to Auburn. He was at Arizona State as their RB coach in January.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: djsimp on February 16, 2016, 01:29:35 AM
I can entertain plausible scenarios where the recent staff changes aren't indicators of a downward trend in our football program.

That said, Malzahn has the appearance of a guy chasing an inside straight.  The wagons appear to be circling and Gus looks to be trying to recapture lightning in a bottle. 

The win/loss results of this next year's football team, fair or not, will determine the length of his remaining tenure.  I hope he pulls out of the the PR tailspin.

Pretty much sums it up.


I will say this though, I have read numerous post by folks on this site alone whom seamed to be in displeasure with Craig and the development with the WRs. In fact the only real attractions became his recruiting abilities. I like Craig, yes, but where is the development? Want to talk about job titles well Craig certainly had his own, of which didn't seem to fit the bill.

Still though, as wes pointed out, this is the year of real scrutiny for Gus. Kind of a win or go home scenario.

I will say this too, Gus doesn't seem like a dumbass at all. Seems to have a brain that works properly and has done so everywhere he has been as a coach. Sure, not as a HC but that shit doesn't just fly out the window because of a label.

There are a lot of what ifs here but since DC was Co OC, what if Craig was the problem in coordinating with Lashlee and Gus? Just a thought and one will see the proof in the pudding for 2016.

Another thing is I don't think Gus will be gone next year if he adheres to the money that tells him Lashlee is to be gone if Gus wants to stay.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 03:13:19 AM
All our top recruiters are gone and we've replaced them with basically poo.

Not necessarily.

OL Coach Herb Hand, DL Coach Rodney Gardner, and DB Coach Wesley McGriff are top recruiters.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 16, 2016, 08:02:57 AM
Not necessarily.

OL Coach Herb Hand, DL Coach Rodney Gardner, and DB Coach Wesley McGriff are top recruiters.
I think Kodi will do well as a recruiter. The question for me regarding the loss of Craig was always who do we have that can persuade Florida talent and moreso, who knows the area of Mobile better?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUChizad on February 16, 2016, 09:26:33 AM
Regarding Burns' coaching career, he didn't go from MTSU to Auburn. He was at Arizona State as their RB coach in January.
Correct. Like I said, in two months.

How much experience you figure he got from January to mid-February?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUChizad on February 16, 2016, 09:32:41 AM
Not necessarily.

OL Coach Herb Hand, DL Coach Rodney Gardner, and DB Coach Wesley McGriff are top recruiters.
Are you seriously trying to purport that any of those guys were better recruiters than DCraig, Mushchamp, T-Rob, Lance Thompson, and maybe even Grimes?

You've lost your damn mind.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 16, 2016, 09:35:53 AM
Executive Director of Kickassery

I don't care what they call him, but he can't have my title.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 09:36:29 AM
Correct. Like I said, in two months.

How much experience you figure he got from January to mid-February?

He got his day-planner completely filled in for the next two months.  Workouts and meal times and everything.  It had extra pockets in the covers and slots for a calculator and pen. Pretty much a wasted $21.95 at Office Depot because it had the Sun Devil logo on the outside. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: CCTAU on February 16, 2016, 09:53:01 AM
Quarterback.
What I do hate is the waste and mishandling of JJ and White.

How has White been mishandled?

Unless you are referring to them as one, as far as mishandling goes.

White has progressed pretty damn good. unfortunately, he got beat up a bit. But he was making good decisions. (for the most part0


I think the statement about having a QB that can overcome the shitty play calling might be the best analysis yet.

I am excited about White. he seems to have the best pure QB mind we have had in a while. I just wonder how long it will take for Gushlee to beat that out of him...

Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Six on February 16, 2016, 09:55:01 AM
Not necessarily.

OL Coach Herb Hand, DL Coach Rodney Gardner, and DB Coach Wesley McGriff are top recruiters.

Hey Skreets! You hear anything about our dismissed basketball player assaulting a woman with a knife or something? Lots of rumors and wondering if you and Bernie had any intel on it.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 16, 2016, 10:17:47 AM
Hey Skreets! You hear anything about our dismissed basketball player assaulting a woman with a knife or something? Lots of rumors and wondering if you and Bernie had any intel on it.
^^^#BoomMothaBitches
This is why I watch when The Six gets up to bat. He's like Bo Jackson. He strikes out a lot but every once in a while, he's going to send one over left center into the Kroeger parking lot across the street.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: CCTAU on February 16, 2016, 10:19:29 AM
^^^#BoomMothaBitches
This is why I watch when The Six gets up to bat. He's like Bo Jackson. He strikes out a lot but every once in a while, he's going to send one over left center into the Kroeger parking lot across the street.

Only to get a Nickelback...
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: GH2001 on February 16, 2016, 10:23:05 AM
Only to get a Nickelback...

Ok. Credit where due. Formidable hussel.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 16, 2016, 10:39:22 AM
How has White been mishandled?

Unless you are referring to them as one, as far as mishandling goes.

White has progressed pretty damn good. unfortunately, he got beat up a bit. But he was making good decisions. (for the most part0


I think the statement about having a QB that can overcome the shitty play calling might be the best analysis yet.

I am excited about White. he seems to have the best pure QB mind we have had in a while. I just wonder how long it will take for Gushlee to beat that out of him...
There are a half dozen or more SEC teams that would like to snatch up White right away. Some would even consider JJ even with his  struggles. It is true that White was banged up but I wasn't clear. The wildcat offense can destroy the confidence of a QB when he leads the team down the field only to be pulled in the redzone. Other than that I see White progressing well in spite of the stupidity of Gushlee. They will not allow him to finish and I know this kid can be damn accurate in the open field as well as inside the thirties. Our fucking coaches just haven't developed a short game with the exception of the "Lutzie." Think about it. Ever see a corner fade? Quick slant? I've seen other teams in pregame taking fifteen minutes just practicing that fade.
How can a QB fully develop when he isn't allowed to put his skills to the test?

So for the sake of the team I think we need a runner that can throw it some which could reduce by as much as one third (perhaps) the number of times Gushlee is tempted to fuck something up. Our boy White deserves better and who knows what happened to JJ.
I can pull for my team and hold my nose at the same time. I've done it before.

   
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
As I've said before, I had no problem with the Mildcat they ran this past season.  Maybe it's just perception, or bad oldtimer's memory, but I seem to recall it being effective.  Effective from the standpoint of getting accomplished what they needed to at the time.  I don't know if they keep specific stats on what they did from that formation, but I see where Carry On averaged 4 yards a touch overall.  I'm going to guess about half of that was from the Mildcat. 

It seemed to me that he normally came in when we needed 3 or 4 and usually got the job done.  I think that's pretty much what that formation is for.  Put someone back there shifty enough to find the gap and get the needed yards.  It's not designed to rip off 20-25 yard runs.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 16, 2016, 11:05:20 AM
As I've said before, I had no problem with the Mildcat they ran this past season.  Maybe it's just perception, or bad oldtimer's memory, but I seem to recall it being effective.  Effective from the standpoint of getting accomplished what they needed to at the time.  I don't know if they keep specific stats on what they did from that formation, but I see where Carry On averaged 4 yards a touch overall.  I'm going to guess about half of that was from the Mildcat. 

It seemed to me that he normally came in when we needed 3 or 4 and usually got the job done.  I think that's pretty much what that formation is for.  Put someone back there shifty enough to find the gap and get the needed yards.  It's not designed to rip off 20-25 yard runs.
I don't hate an occaisional wildcat series...but I loathe it as a philosophy.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 16, 2016, 11:35:05 AM
Hey Skreets! You hear anything about our dismissed basketball player assaulting a woman with a knife or something? Lots of rumors and wondering if you and Bernie had any intel on it.
It wasn't assault - he was merely redistributing the cream cheese on her bagel.

#feelthebern
#freecreamcheese4all
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: CCTAU on February 16, 2016, 11:41:29 AM
Our fucking coaches just haven't developed a short game with the exception of the "Lutzie." Think about it. Ever see a corner fade? Quick slant? I've seen other teams in pregame taking fifteen minutes just practicing that fade.
How can a QB fully develop when he isn't allowed to put his skills to the test?

Never heard this argument before.... :rolleyes:

I would just settle for bringing the five and out route back.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 16, 2016, 11:43:28 AM
I don't know if have we have poor QB development but it certainly looks like that's been an issue OR there has been some terrible misses on talent eval.

Maybe a little of both. Both JJ and White struggled at times but I saw it as mental with JJ and physical with the White boy.

I don't think JJ will cut the mustard. I think he's done. Sure, I hope he proves me wrong but I must admit that if I see him trot out as a starter, I'm saying, "well shit".

White is too short but he's slow.

You ladies better hope there's an x factor, a wild card or a joker that comes calling in the spring. JFIII or like his momma call him, James. Or, somebody else. If, that is, you are still on the Gus bus. If you ain't, cheer for JJ or the white boy and get the season over with.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Godfather on February 16, 2016, 02:48:59 PM
I said it before:

White will be your starter against Clemson.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 16, 2016, 02:53:48 PM
I said it before:

White will be your starter against Clemson.
Seconded.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 16, 2016, 02:57:06 PM
This feels like the Alamo. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: dallaswareagle on February 16, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
I said it before:

White will be your starter against Clemson.

Unless the play calling and play management is better it won't matter who starts.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 03:06:57 PM
No way. It's gonna' be Clifford-Mutha-Fuckin'-BOOM-Iwasabackupinjuco-Franklin-Da-Third
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 03:09:53 PM
This feels like the Alamo.

Is Ozzy pissing on us?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 16, 2016, 03:14:17 PM
I said it before:

White will be your starter against Clemson.
Rod:"AND...White has Davis wide open over the middle! White has pressure! He evades one tackler! Annnnd it's batted down at the line of scrimmage and in-com-plete. What's that Stan? 8 or 9 passes batted down at the line today?"
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 03:24:21 PM
Rod:"AND...White has Davis wide open over the middle! White has pressure! He evades one tackler! Annnnd it's batted down at the line of scrimmage and in-com-plete. What's that Stan? 8 or 9 passes batted down at the line today?"

Rod: White back to pass.  Arkansas brings pressure off the edge....White throws a strike to Stevens at the OOOOOHH NOOOO...right through his hands  How many drops is that today, Stan?

Stan: Uh huh

Rod:  Dynamite drop-in, Stan.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 03:25:35 PM
Rod: White back to pass.  Arkansas brings pressure off the edge....White throws a strike to Stevens at the OOOOOHH NOOOO...right through his hands  How many drops is that today, Stan?

Stan: Uh huh

Rod:  Dynamite drop-in, Stan.

Fucking flashbacks.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 03:33:54 PM
Fucking flashbacks.

Definitely THE "what-if" moment of the season for me.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 03:39:43 PM
Definitely THE "what-if" moment of the season for me.

Could have built some crucial momentum with a win there.  Or in any of the other games where the WRs dropped more rocks than your average dope dealer on the first and fifteenth.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 03:44:32 PM
Could have built some crucial momentum with a win there.  Or in any of the other games where the WRs dropped more rocks than your average dope dealer on the first and fifteenth.

Thanks, I'll be here all week.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 16, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
Fucking flashbacks.
It was as if Tommy Trott was running passing drills at practice.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 03:57:51 PM
It was as if Tommy Trott was running passing drills at practice.

News Flash: Kodi Burns did a 180 and decided to take the strength coaching position at Ithaca College.  In keeping with Auburn tradition, Gus Malzahn just announced his replacement, Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 04:01:48 PM
News Flash: Kodi Burns did a 180 and decided to take the strength coaching position at Ithaca College.  In keeping with Auburn tradition, Gus Malzahn just announced his replacement, Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran.

Can he bring a brother or cousin?  We'll come out of the tunnel to "Rio"...it'll be most ripping.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: CCTAU on February 16, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
Since Craig leaving is not a rumor any longer, can we start a new thread?

Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 04:18:22 PM
Since Craig leaving is not a rumor any longer, can we start a new thread?

No.  This one has the feel of finally eroding into a 3 page session of obscure movie quotes.  Don't mess with karma. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: dallaswareagle on February 16, 2016, 04:24:43 PM
Yippee Ki Yay Motherfucker
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 04:32:18 PM
Yippee Ki Yay Motherfucker

Just a fly in the ointment, Hans.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 05:41:25 PM
Are you seriously trying to purport that any of those guys were better recruiters than DCraig, Mushchamp, T-Rob, Lance Thompson, and maybe even Grimes?

You've lost your damn mind.
Are you seriously blind? In case you are, Auburn landed the #1 DL class in this recruiting cycle, without Coach Muschamp, T-Rob or Coach Thompson...thanks to Coach Gardner.

#MicDrop

#PickedTheMicBackUp

Coach Steele is a pretty good recruiter too (he knows how to move money around, just like Coach Thompson does...hint, they worked under Sabbin).

I would put Coach Craig above all the coaches on the staff, recruiting wise (not to impressed with his WR group though, I still feel he would make a better QB Coach)

Coach Gardner & Craig (those two are top tier recruiters, Craig a little more so).

I would match Coach Muschamp with Coach McGriff (McGriff was Ole Miss' & later Vanderbilt's bagman)

I would match Coach T-Rob with Coach T-Will (T-Will is a fucking rapper, that will resonate with HS prospects)

I would match Coach Thompson with Coach Steele

I would put Coach Hand above Coach Grimes (Coach Malzahn wanted Herbie in '13, settled on Grimes. I like Grimes a lot, more so than most of the staff, but from what I've read and heard, Coach Hand is a really good recruiter as well as being a really good OL Coach).

So, no...we didn't lose ALL of our recruiters. Only a blind man would think that.

#MicDropAgain
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 05:51:13 PM
Look damn it, you're going to have to start bringing your own microphone.  That's the 3rd one I've replaced this week.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 16, 2016, 05:58:04 PM
Are you seriously blind? In case you are, Auburn landed the #1 DL class in this recruiting cycle, without Coach Muschamp, T-Rob or Coach Thompson...thanks to Coach Gardner.

#MicDrop

#PickedTheMicBackUp

Coach Steele is a pretty good recruiter too (he knows how to move money around, just like Coach Thompson does...hint, they worked under Sabbin).

I would match Coach Craig with Coach Gardner (those two are top tier recruiters).

I would match Coach Muschamp with Coach McGriff (McGriff was Ole Miss' & later Vanderbilt's bagman)

I would match Coach T-Rob with Coach T-Will (T-Will is a fucking rapper, that will resonate with HS prospects)

I would match Coach Thompson with Coach Steele

I would put Coach Hand above Coach Grimes (Coach Malzahn wanted Herbie in '13, settled on Grimes. I like Grimes a lot, more so than most of the staff, but from what I've read and heard, Coach Hand is a really good recruiter as well as being a really good OL Coach).

So, no...we didn't lose ALL of our recruiters. Only a blind man would think that.

#MicDropAgain
You mention this coach Gardner over and over as if you have inside skreetz on the University of Auburn.

I would know if we hired a new guy.
#BoomBitch
#BernieDontKnowAU
#YoSkreetzBeSuckin
#UaintEvenGotNoMic
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 06:02:59 PM
Look damn it, you're going to have to start bringing your own microphone.  That's the 3rd one I've replaced this week.
Sorry about that, it's just like fishing with dynamite sometimes around here...it's so much fun dropping the knowledge bomb on people's heads.

#MicTurnedOffAndPlacedBackOnTheStand
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 16, 2016, 06:03:57 PM
Look damn it, you're going to have to start bringing your own microphone.  That's the 3rd one I've replaced this week.
Yeah, but the "mic" is actually an empty pork and beans can with a piece of yarn dangling out of the end.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 06:07:47 PM
You mention this coach Gardner over and over as if you have inside skreetz on the University of Auburn.

I would know if we hired a new guy.
#BoomBitch
#BernieDontKnowAU
#YoSkreetzBeSuckin
#UaintEvenGotNoMic
Gardner/Garner

Potato/Tomato

The fact still remains, Auburn did not lose ALL of their recruiters. I agree that Auburn lost their top recruiter (Coach Craig), but not all of them.

#DynamiteDrop
#BoomMuthaBitches
#IfYouDontKnowNowYouKnow
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 16, 2016, 06:10:01 PM
Yeah, but the "mic" is actually an empty pork and beans can with a piece of yarn dangling out of the end.

#franksandbeans
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 06:11:10 PM
#franksandbeans

Which is that?  The franks or the beans?  How'd you get the beans above the frank?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 07:36:43 PM
Rumor/Fact Mill:  Two LSU wide receivers transferred out today. One was a former starter.  Don't know what, if any relation it has to Craig's arrival.  No real reasons given.  Something at least worth keeping an eye on.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 16, 2016, 08:09:38 PM
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Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 08:37:29 PM
I forgot to mention Coach Horton, our Recruiting Coordinator, he's a really good recruiter too. Also, Coach McGriff & Coach Hand have been recruiting coordinators in some of their previous stops (McGriff with Baylor, Ole Miss & Vanderbilt & Hand with West Virginia '01-'06)...McGriff & Hand apparently have hot wives because they were both on Vanderbilt's staff under HC James Franklin ("I only hire coaches with hot wives because it tells me, they know how to recruit.")
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 09:02:02 PM
I forgot to mention Coach Horton, our Recruiting Coordinator, he's a really good recruiter too. Also, Coach McGriff & Coach Hand have been recruiting coordinators in some of their previous stops (McGriff with Baylor, Ole Miss & Vanderbilt & Hand with West Virginia '01-'06)...McGriff & Hand apparently have hot wives because they were both on Vanderbilt's staff under HC James Franklin ("I only hire coaches with hot wives because it tells me, they know how to recruit.")

Rumor is that Horton will leave soon as well.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 09:04:50 PM
Rumor/Fact Mill:  Two LSU wide receivers transferred out today. One was a former starter.  Don't know what, if any relation it has to Craig's arrival.  No real reasons given.  Something at least worth keeping an eye on.

Probably nothing more sinister than the "grass is greener" mentality that seems rampant in CFB these days.  New coach = opportunity to get out from under Cameron.

I can't imagine that Craig's image is so toxic that established players would bolt when he's announced as their new position coach.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 09:37:51 PM
Rumor is that Horton will leave soon as well.
Yup, I'd heard UCF but I don't know if that's still open anymore. I wonder what Tre Smith is doing these days, think he'll be interested in being the RB Coach?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Kaos on February 16, 2016, 09:56:02 PM
Yup, I'd heard UCF but I don't know if that's still open anymore. I wonder what Tre Smith is doing these days, think he'll be interested in being the RB Coach?

What about Kenny irons?  Or Mike dyer?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: RottenBottom on February 16, 2016, 10:09:27 PM
What about Kenny irons?  Or Mike dyer?
Dyer sure would spice things up on the recruiting trail.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 16, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
Probably nothing more sinister than the "grass is greener" mentality that seems rampant in CFB these days.  New coach = opportunity to get out from under Cameron.

I can't imagine that Craig's image is so toxic that established players would bolt when he's announced as their new position coach.

I read where one had started 7 games and then had one shitty game against Bama. Lost his #1 slot and has never regained it. Your grass is greener scenario is probably more spot on.  Just thought the timing was worth a mention.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 16, 2016, 11:02:39 PM
The best recruiter we have is 10-11 win seasons and championships.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 16, 2016, 11:19:32 PM
What about Kenny irons?  Or Mike dyer?
Hell, we might as well ask Reid McMillan or Rusty Williams if they're interested.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 16, 2016, 11:37:07 PM
The best recruiter we have is 10-11 win seasons and championships.
10 winning seasons and championships out of 11?

#PutItOnTheBoard
#Championship
#Boom
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 16, 2016, 11:49:00 PM
Hell, we might as well ask Reid McMillan or Rusty Williams if they're interested.

MARKEITH!!!!
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: CCTAU on February 17, 2016, 12:21:36 AM
MARKEITH!!!!

The Lizard?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: The Prowler on February 17, 2016, 05:53:33 AM
The Lizard?
The mutha fuckin Lizard...we going to da 'ship!!!!!
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 17, 2016, 07:05:40 AM
The starting pay is $400,000.  Seems like somebody could teach our young men to tote a football for that sum.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 17, 2016, 08:46:05 AM
10 winning seasons and championships out of 11?



10 win seasons, hopefully 11 to 12 win seasons, consistently. Throw in some SEC championships and national titles, plus beating the living shot out of bama, then we can get the recruits. Recruits want to win and be nationally recognized for their chance to play at he next level. I know I hate to lose. Arriving there with this staff is the question. To be homest, I can't see it happening with Gushlee's head his ass play calling. We have the talent, we just need identity, great coaching and development.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Godfather on February 17, 2016, 09:05:15 AM

Which is that?  The franks or the beans?  How'd you get the beans above the frank?

I think its bean, frank, bean
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Godfather on February 17, 2016, 09:08:30 AM
MARKEITH!!!!
I wonder what Demontray Carter is up to?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: wesfau2 on February 17, 2016, 09:21:40 AM
I wonder what Demontray Carter is up to?

Hanging with Cincade Pennington, no doubt.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 17, 2016, 09:25:48 AM
Hanging with Cincade Pennington, no doubt.

They hookin' up at Rusty Williams' crib later.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 17, 2016, 09:38:56 AM
What's Fob's boy doing these days?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 17, 2016, 10:08:06 AM
The mutha fuckin Lizard...we going to da 'ship!!!!!
You sending the Lizard?
Shit, negroe! That's all you had to say.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 17, 2016, 10:13:53 AM
I wonder what Demontray Carter is up to?
I was trying to remember Demontray's last name yesterday. I kept coming up with Williams and I knew that wasn't right. I must have an abundance of Lectrons firing in my noggin.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: RottenBottom on February 17, 2016, 10:25:06 AM
Where does this program go from here?  Despite having a talent rich roster, we have fallen behind the Mississippi schools...  I sadly can't see us having a winning record next year.  What's the magic number of losses that gets Gus and Jay fired next year?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 17, 2016, 10:32:18 AM
I was trying to remember Demontray's last name yesterday. I kept coming up with Williams and I knew that wasn't right. I must have an abundance of Lectrons firing in my noggin.
Your synapses were firing like the pistons in a Lil Train engine.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 17, 2016, 10:38:05 AM
Where does this program go from here?  Despite having a talent rich roster, we have fallen behind the Mississippi schools...  I sadly can't see us having a winning record next year.  What's the magic number of losses that gets Gus and Jay fired next year?

They find a QB and kick ass.  That's the one and only direction they take.  Jay ain't going nowhere. The Trustees are gutless and do what Jay wants.  The President is only concerned with running a clean program and graduating players, as it should be for that position. 

The schedule this year is crazy tough in one sense, and couldn't set up better from a home and away standard.  It's bookended by the National Champion game participants.  But the first 5 are at home and then it alternates away and home each week from there. No consecutive weeks on the road. 

I'm suddenly ready for some Spring Foosballz.   
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 17, 2016, 11:15:29 AM
I too am very optimistic.
Churchillian even.
"We will fight them on land...
Nevah! Nevah!!
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 17, 2016, 11:16:40 AM
Your synapses were firing like the pistons in a Lil Train engine.
The raging torrent that is my mind, usually flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives, has been slowed to a trickle by a bullshit art history class I'm taking.

Imagine the stares one gets when an obscenity it uttered in class. That's where I'm at.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 17, 2016, 11:26:36 AM
The raging torrent that is my mind, usually flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives, has been slowed to a trickle by a bullshit art history class I'm taking.

Imagine the stares one gets when an obscenity it uttered in class. That's where I'm at.
Oh yeah? What year are you son?
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Pell City Tiger on February 17, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
Oh yeah? What year are you son?
Senior, working on my second degree.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: Godfather on February 17, 2016, 11:53:31 AM
The raging torrent that is my mind, usually flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives, has been slowed to a trickle by a bullshit art history class I'm taking.

Imagine the stares one gets when an obscenity it uttered in class. That's where I'm at.
You use your mouth prettier than a $2 whure
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 17, 2016, 11:54:45 AM
The raging torrent that is my mind, usually flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives, has been slowed to a trickle by a bullshit art history class I'm taking.

Imagine the stares one gets when an obscenity it uttered in class. That's where I'm at.
I can't find the former AU football RB reference in this, therefore, -50. I know that you can do better.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: jmar on February 17, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
I can't find the former AU football RB reference in this, therefore, -50. I know that you can do better.
Maybe so but he's one impressive sonuvabitch.
Keep matriculating my friend!
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: WiregrassTiger on February 17, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Maybe so but he's one impressive sonuvabitch.
Keep matriculating my friend!
Never did I say that this man is not impressive. Not once.
Title: Re: Rumor mill swirling
Post by: AUJarhead on February 21, 2016, 09:35:45 PM
Hell, we might as well ask Reid McMillan or Rusty Williams if they're interested.

Bring back the Lizard!