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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Prowler on November 05, 2015, 07:36:28 PM
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It's apparent that Coach Malzahn calls better plays with a dual threat QB, the only problem is that he keeps moving them to receiver. So now, you have a roster with pocket passers at QB and dual threat QBs at receiver...that's perfectly fine, as long as you know how to call plays utilizing those talents (Pro Style or True Spread type offenses or something along those lines).
Now, Coach Malzahn needs to go to JUCO, pick up a top dual threat QB and work the offense around him. Sean White is a talented QB that plays with a lot of heart (sprained knee, played through it), but he is not "the guy" for Coach Malzahn's strengths in play calling. He'd be better suited to transfer out to somewhere like Arkansas.
It's like I post it, it happens and a article comes out shortly afterwards (One thing I didn't think about, JF3 played as Nick Marshall when FSU was practicing for Auburn in the National Championship game)...
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/11/why_wouldnt_auburn_welcome_dua.html
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It's like I post it at 2:30 this afternoon and then you post it at 7:30 tonight.
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It's like I post it at 2:30 this afternoon and then you post it at 7:30 tonight.
It's like you post it deep in the JF3 thread in the recruiting section, I liked it and posted it in the main section for all to see how vast my knowledge is regarding college football, among other things
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It's like you post it deep in the JF3 thread in the recruiting section, I liked it and posted it in the main section for all to see how vast my knowledge is regarding college football, among other things
Hard to find a QB as good as Nick Marshall to run the read option and extend shitty play calling.
Super Cam is in another class altogether because he often makes Mike Shula look like a genius.
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Hard to find a QB as good as Nick Marshall to run the read option and extend shitty play calling.
Super Cam is in another class altogether because he often makes Mike Shula look like a genius.
I'm thinking that's why Auburn needs a DTQB, instead of a pocket passer...those shitty play calls trend to show themselves more when the QB doesn't scare anyone with his feet.
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I'm thinking that's why Auburn needs a DTQB, instead of a pocket passer...those shitty play calls trend to show themselves more when the QB doesn't scare anyone with his feet.
It's so evident to me now that I consider it an axiom for the success of any successful Malzahn offense.
There's no mystery as to why Auburn QBs aren't allowed to work independently with an outside source. Besides being a complete waste of time for those involved it offers false encouragement to a young QB that wants to progress.
Holy shit that little bastard has us knocking on the door again.
Quick WILDCAT...on the field NOW!
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It's so evident to me now that I consider it an axiom for the success of any successful Malzahn offense.
There's no mystery as to why Auburn QBs aren't allowed to work independently with an outside source. Besides being a complete waste of time for those involved it offers false encouragement to a young QB that wants to progress.
Holy shit that little bastard has us knocking on the door again.
Quick WILDCAT...on the field NOW!
LOL...Yup, WILDCAT!!! RUN IT!!! RUN IT!!! RUN IT!!! (2 yard gain)
2nd and Goal at the 4; Send in the one legged QB, Roll out pass RUN IT!!! (Incomplete)
3rd and Goal at the 4; Okay, let's see...one receiver route, fade to the corner with Ricardo RUN IT!!! (Incomplete)
FIELD GOAL UNIT
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I'm thinking that's why Auburn needs a DTQB, instead of a pocket passer...those shitty play calls trend to show themselves more when the QB doesn't scare anyone with his feet.
Watching Cam run the read option "some" Monday night.....it was like I was dreaming of the good old days. The way he sold it. Good grief he was/is special. And NM wasn't bad either, just not a great passer but he sold it just about as well. No one knew WHO had the dang ball.
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Hard to find a QB as good as Nick Marshall to run the read option and extend shitty play calling.
Super Cam is in another class altogether because he often makes Mike Shula look like a genius.
Cam may be great but ain't nobody that great.
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Watching Cam run the read option "some" Monday night.....it was like I was dreaming of the good old days. The way he sold it. Good grief he was/is special. And NM wasn't bad either, just not a great passer but he sold it just about as well. No one knew WHO had the dang ball.
2013 anyway. 2014 Gus was intent on proving to the scouts that NM was a legitimate passer!
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Will just leave this here.
http://gridironnow.com/could-coaching-changes-be-coming-at-auburn/
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What Buzz would really love to see: Lashlee shown the door. Gucci Mane promoted to OC and a real WR coarch hired.
What will probably happen: Lashlee given a raise. Gucci hired away by Reverend Right Richt. Buzz bummed.
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Will just leave this here.
http://gridironnow.com/could-coaching-changes-be-coming-at-auburn/ (http://gridironnow.com/could-coaching-changes-be-coming-at-auburn/)
Lashlee must go. Gus was brought in because he was an offensive genius. If there is nobody that can call plays like him, and if he cannot be HC and OC, then we probably cannot be successful with him at the helm.
We need to see that happen next season. I do not think he can train someone to do it like he does. He built it.
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Lashlee must go. Gus was brought in because he was an offensive genius. If there is nobody that can call plays like him, and if he cannot be HC and OC, then we probably cannot be successful with him at the helm.
We need to see that happen next season. I do not think he can train someone to do it like he does. He built it.
Don't get the Lashlee to be gone talk. Maybe as a QB developer, but I have already said he isn't the one calling the plays.
I have it on good authority that Gus is the one calling the plays
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Don't get the Lashlee to be gone talk. Maybe as a QB developer, but I have already said he isn't the one calling the plays.
I have it on good authority that Gus is the one calling the plays
Yeah, but we was gonna fornicate with them whores.
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Don't get the Lashlee to be gone talk. Maybe as a QB developer, but I have already said he isn't the one calling the plays.
I have it on good authority that Gus is the one calling the plays
As Matthews said in the article, it seems likely that there will be a shakeup.
“Any time you underachieve as much as Auburn has this season, it’s common for there to be a shakeup or two on the staff,†Matthews said. “(I) would not be surprised to see that happen at Auburn in the next four weeks or so.â€
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Lashlee played quarterback in high school for Malzahn and has followed Malzahn to multiple stops in the college ranks. Common sense tells you the two are tight and Malzahn wouldn’t take dismissing him lightly. Privately, though, GN insiders believe Lashlee is concerned the administration will want to see changes made after a disappointing season and that he may become the fall guy.
I mean, none of this proves anything but we have all been Auburn fans long enough to know how this works.
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As Matthews said in the article, it seems likely that there will be a shakeup.
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I mean, none of this proves anything but we have all been Auburn fans long enough to know how this works.
IMO, Lashlee and possibly Garner won't be back next season. I want to see Craig moved over to coach the QBs/OC and bring in a big time WR Coach. I'd like to see Coach Rocker back in the Orange & Blue.
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Some people weigh in on a subject but that damn Scarbinsky weights in on it.
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Some people weigh in on a subject but that damn Scarbinsky weights in on it.
He knows how to throw his wait around.
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Some people weigh in on a subject but that damn Scarbinsky weights in on it.
The $10 million question is: whose weight in has the most accurate information to weigh in.
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I don't understand the desire to move Craig to OC or even QB Coach. His group consistently underperforms...why promote him or give him another position to torpedo?
Give him an off-field recruiting position or cut him loose.
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I don't understand the desire to move Craig to OC or even QB Coach. His group consistently underperforms...why promote him or give him another position to torpedo?
Give him an off-field recruiting position or cut him loose.
I can see why most think Craig would excel as QB coach since its the position he actually played and its the position he coached at FSU.
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As for the JUCO QB, if he can come in and beat out White then I'm all for it. Don't think there is a chance in hell it happens. Yet if it does that likely means Auburn will average well over 30 ppg next year because the kid is gonna have to be damn good to beat out #13. White is the most accurate freshman QB I've ever seen play at Auburn and hes only gonna get better. His pocket presence is also turning out to be 2nd to none.
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IMO, Lashlee and possibly Garner won't be back next season. I want to see Craig moved over to coach the QBs/OC and bring in a big time WR Coach. I'd like to see Coach Rocker back in the Orange & Blue.
Please name one big time WR coach. That is a funny statement. No WR coach is big time nor does he want to be a WR coach. That position is a stepping stone for a better position. And why do you think AU's WRs are underperforming?
You keep saying this, but I do not think it means what you think it means!
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Please name one big time WR coach. That is a funny statement. No WR coach is big time nor does he want to be a WR coach. That position is a stepping stone for a better position. And why do you think AU's WRs are underperforming?
You keep saying this, but I do not think it means what you think it means!
You are absolutely right!
And the next great RB coach is?
I have no problem with moves of any sort including Rocker being brought on board if and when Richt is cast out at UGA or promoting an offensive position coach as long as Malzahn has it in him to cut ties with Lashlee.
The aspect of recruiting the Mobile area though was thought to be a key to our future success and I would be hesitant to cut anyone loose that might fracture any relations we have developed there...including Garner.
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Please name one big time WR coach. That is a funny statement. No WR coach is big time nor does he want to be a WR coach. That position is a stepping stone for a better position. And why do you think AU's WRs are underperforming?
You keep saying this, but I do not think it means what you think it means!
Joker Phillips...you done looking like a dumbass?
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Joker Phillips...you done looking like a dumbass?
This^^^ Talent does flock around Mr. Phillips.
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Joker Phillips...you done looking like a dumbass?
You are a moron. Joker Phillips has been a head coach and would like to be one again. Being a WR coach is NOT his first choice!
Good luck getting him to come to AU to be, wait for it, a top notch WR coach!
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You are a moron. Joker Phillips has been a head coach and would like to be one again. Being a WR coach is NOT his first choice!
Good luck getting him to come to AU to be, wait for it, a top notch WR coach!
I have this feeling that Lashlee will be hired at some lower tier community college program this offseason. Craig will be moved to OC but of course you know who will be calling the plays while Craig learns. With this, AU saves lots of money. That money could be used to hire a big name WR coach like Phillips. Word up
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I have this feeling that Lashlee will be hired at some lower tier community college program this offseason. Craig will be moved to OC but of course you know who will be calling the plays while Craig learns. With this, AU saves lots of money. That money could be used to hire a big name WR coach like Phillips. Word up
The only reason he went to FL is he was out of a job. He has a job now. Good luck!
Once again, why do you think AUs WRs are under achieving?
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This^^^ Talent does flock around Mr. Phillips.
Just sittin' here straddlin' my fence, eatin' my waffles.
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The only reason he went to FL is he was out of a job. He has a job now. Good luck!
Once again, why do you think AUs WRs are under achieving?
Yeah, Joker Phillips has a job as a...wait for it...as a WR Coach with the Cleveland Browns. You done looking like a dumbass?
As for the WRs underachieving, it might be because Dameyune Craig has only coached WRs for one year, prior to joining the Auburn staff ('09 South Alabama under HC Joey Jones), plus the WR talent just isn't the same as it was in '13 & '14 (Sammie Coates & Duke Williams compared to "Stonehands" Louis &... Melvin Ray).
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Once again, why do you think AUs WRs are under achieving?
Well, I don't know, dropped balls, not following through routes and recruiting WRs who are recruited doing such. It's either they are already but suddenly learn to be dropsy when they get to AU
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Want another Bigtime WR Coach?
Lawrence Dawsey (WR Coach FSU)
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Just sittin' here straddlin' my fence, eatin' my waffles.
Just don't line up the rest of the team in two columns and press Marshall into toting it through as they whack at the ball OR threaten to never allow him to see the field again if he fumbles.
Could be confused as the work of a fence straddlin', waffle eatin' genius.
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Well, I don't know, dropped balls, not following through routes and recruiting WRs who are recruited doing such. It's either they are already but suddenly learn to be dropsy when they get to AU
Ah finally. Do they run the wrong route. Do they get an abnormal amount of holding penalties. Do they do anything wrong that is coachable? Nah. This is a talent thing.
So you blame catching on a coach?
Both of you are morons. No WR coach can teach a guy to catch. You can't teach desire. You can't teach concentration. Maybe you have a slight point with recruiting, but we had He same thing when Malzhan was the OC.
And you are not going to get a top notch WR coach to come to AU. Especially since, so far, there are only two of them!
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Just don't line up the rest of the team in two columns and press Marshall into toting it through as they whack at the ball OR threaten to never allow him to see the field again if he fumbles.
Could be confused as the work of a fence straddlin', waffle eatin' genius.
Point...missed....completely.
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Ah finally. Do they run the wrong route. Do they get an abnormal amount of holding penalties. Do they do anything wrong that is coachable? Nah. This is a talent thing.
So you blame catching on a coach?
Both of you are morons. No WR coach can teach a guy to catch. You can't teach desire. You can't teach concentration. Maybe you have a slight point with recruiting, but we had He same thing when Malzhan was the OC.
And you are not going to get a top notch WR coach to come to AU. Especially since, so far, there are only two of them!
There's more than two, but you only asked for one, I gave you one...then you proceeded to backtrack and stumble all over yourself, just stop...seriously.
I question your knowledge about football if you think a WR Coach can't teach WRs how to properly catch the ball, maybe you should leave the big boy talk to those of us that know what we're talking about. Or keep blabbing, it's good for a chuckle.
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There's more than two, but you only asked for one, I gave you one...then you proceeded to backtrack and stumble all over yourself, just stop...seriously.
I question your knowledge about football if you think a WR Coach can't teach WRs how to properly catch the ball, maybe you should leave the big boy talk to those of us that know what we're talking about. Or keep blabbing, it's good for a chuckle.
Oh please. Been there, done it.
There are different levels of talent. And NO, a coach cannot teach a guy how to catch the balls under pressure. He can show you what to do technically, but that doesn't mean you will be good at it.
Funny how Rico has had the drops since he got to AU. Coates, same thing. I guess that is bad coaching.
You have no clue what happens daily on a football field. You have no idea the different levels of talent and desire that exists out there. And it's not taught by a coach. A coach can help teach you routes, how to block, how to read keys on defense, but he can't force you to catch it. There are only so many drills a coach can put them through.
You hold onto that notion that we are going to get one of your boys to save us.
Just like politics, you are clueless about coaching and/or playing the game of football.
It ok though, you still the man on XBOX!
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Oh please. Been there, done it.
There are different levels of talent. And NO, a coach cannot teach a guy how to catch the balls under pressure. He can show you what to do technically, but that doesn't mean you will be good at it.
Funny how Rico has had the drops since he got to AU. Coates, same thing. I guess that is bad coaching.
You have no clue what happens daily on a football field. You have no idea the different levels of talent and desire that exists out there. And it's not taught by a coach. A coach can help teach you routes, how to block, how to read keys on defense, but he can't force you to catch it. There are only so many drills a coach can put them through.
You hold onto that notion that we are going to get one of your boys to save us.
Just like politics, you are clueless about coaching and/or playing the game of football.
It ok though, you still the man on XBOX!
Never said a coach can teach talent, desire or force someone to catch the ball. I said that a WR coach can teach a WR how to catch the ball, which you apparently don't think that they can when you stated "No WR coach can teach a guy to catch..."
Like I've said before, let the big boys talk about college football, because you continue to trip over yourself as you backtrack. Just like politics, you're a moron and have no clue about college football...where as I played under Coach Willie Wyatt and Tommy Rayam (University of Alabama greats) at Gardendale High and Coach Tracy Rocker (Auburn University great) at Livingston/University of West Alabama. Which btw, they're all still pretty close friends...so, yeah I know a thing or two about playing college football, same as Jumbo.
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Point...missed....completely.
Evidently you thought there was a point.
Pancakes are better?
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Evidently you thought there was a point.
Pancakes are better?
Miss Lippy's car is green.
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Mortal Kombat on Sega Genesis is the best video game ever.
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Never said a coach can teach talent, desire or force someone to catch the ball. I said that a WR coach can teach a WR how to catch the ball, which you apparently don't think that they can when you stated "No WR coach can teach a guy to catch..."
Like I've said before, let the big boys talk about college football, because you continue to trip over yourself as you backtrack. Just like politics, you're a moron and have no clue about college football...where as I played under Coach Willie Wyatt and Tommy Rayam (University of Alabama greats) at Gardendale High and Coach Tracy Rocker (Auburn University great) at Livingston/University of West Alabama. Which btw, they're all still pretty close friends...so, yeah I know a thing or two about playing college football, same as Jumbo.
Whatever. The issues at WR with the drops ARE NOT on Craig.
The missed block by JW on the goal line is. So I guess you can find a better WR coach to fix that.
You keep harping on It like it wil magically make our talent better. It won't.
And if Craig is failing as a WR coach, why would you promote him to OC.
You make no sense with that.
So when we get a "Big Name" WR coach and put out great WRs, I'll concede your point. Until then you are throwing out a flawed opinion.
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Never said a coach can teach talent, desire or force someone to catch the ball. I said that a WR coach can teach a WR how to catch the ball, which you apparently don't think that they can when you stated "No WR coach can teach a guy to catch..."
Like I've said before, let the big boys talk about college football, because you continue to trip over yourself as you backtrack. Just like politics, you're a moron and have no clue about college football...where as I played under Coach Willie Wyatt and Tommy Rayam (University of Alabama greats) at Gardendale High and Coach Tracy Rocker (Auburn University great) at Livingston/University of West Alabama. Which btw, they're all still pretty close friends...so, yeah I know a thing or two about playing college football, same as Jumbo.
I went to football camp with Lawrence Dawsey in 10th grade. I almost tackled Siran Stacey. I got Pat Dye's autograph on the back of a free iced tea card that I was given for being a great athlete.
And I am serious when I say that I'm pretty sure that any one of these individual accomplishments trumps playing football for west Alabama.
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Whatever. The issues at WR with the drops ARE NOT on Craig.
The missed block by JW on the goal line is. So I guess you can find a better WR coach to fix that.
You keep harping on It like it wil magically make our talent better. It won't.
And if Craig is failing as a WR coach, why would you promote him to OC.
You make no sense with that.
So when we get a "Big Name" WR coach and put out great WRs, I'll concede your point. Until then you are throwing out a flawed opinion.
Not sure if you realize this or not, but Craig is the Co-OC already. All I'm saying is move him to coach the QBs and bring in a top notch WR Coach...This really isn't that hard to comprehend.
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I can't wait 'til Prowler goes all Jake the Snake on Wiregrass. DDT is coming bitch.
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I can't wait 'til Prowler goes all Jake the Snake on Wiregrass. DDT is coming bitch.
Loser leaves town match!
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I can't wait 'til Prowler goes all Jake the Snake on Wiregrass. DDT is coming bitch.
My money is on the other guy. my buddy Jimmy says he has better genes!
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My money is on the other guy. my buddy Jimmy says he has better genes!
But you didnt drive a Dodge Stratus.
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Mortal Kombat on Sega Genesis is the best video game ever.
I disagree, it's a very good game, but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever.
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I disagree, it's a very good game, but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever.
Zelda, Mario and Pac Man here. Yeah, its cliche.
But MK was VERY good.
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Zelda, Mario and Pac Man here. Yeah, its cliche.
But MK was VERY good.
I like you... so -15
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I like you... so -15
Shit, did I miss a movie? Rare whiff. Apologies sent. And Prayers. Fucking Jarhead.
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Shit, did I miss a movie? Rare whiff. Apologies sent. And Prayers. Fucking Jarhead.
Stop looking at me SWAN!
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Stop looking at me SWAN!
Sigh....of all the ones I missed.
Adam Sandler wept.