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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on November 10, 2014, 08:10:38 PM
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But if
Alabama beats Miss St.
Ole Miss beats Miss St.
Auburn beats Georgia and Alabama.
South Carolina beats Florida.
We go to Atlanta.
So if you want to root for them on Saturday, be my guest.
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No way in hell I'm pulling for those entitled sister fucking pieces of trash.
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But if
Alabama beats Miss St.
Ole Miss beats Miss St.
Auburn beats Georgia and Alabama.
South Carolina beats Florida.
We go to Atlanta.
So if you want to root for them on Saturday, be my guest.
Nah.
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Nah.
I'd pull for ISIS before I'd pull for those mother fucking douche bags
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As much as I'd love to see Auburn with a chance to repeat as SEC champs, I would love just as much to see Auburn hand the turds their third conference loss in the IB.
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I hope the Updykes lose all their remaining games and any bowl game they may play.
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But if
Alabama beats Miss St.
Ole Miss beats Miss St.
Auburn beats Georgia and Alabama.
South Carolina beats Florida.
We go to Atlanta.
So if you want to root for them on Saturday, be my guest.
So we would have 2 losses. MSU would have 2 losses and because they beat us head to head, we would win the West?
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So we would have 2 losses. MSU would have 2 losses and because they beat us head to head, we would win the West?
Here's the link to the tie breaker rules. If AU, UA, MSU and OM wind up in 4 way tie, AU wins because head to head against the other three, we have only one loss.
MSU would have lost to the two teams we beat (OM and AL) so they would have two losses in the four team head to head.
UA would also have two losses among the four (AU and OM).
OM would have one loss among the four (AU). So the head to head would be AU and OM, and AU holds the tie breaker over OM.
The TAMU loss doesn't hurt us. But we have to win out. That's a tall order.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_Championship_Game#Three_or_more-team_procedure (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_Championship_Game#Three_or_more-team_procedure)
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By the way our defense played, it's a very tall order.
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Let's just win out...let everything else fall where it may. Btw, not gonna pull for uat Saturday, but like I've said before uat will beat MSU bad. Ole Miss will also beat MSU...how Auburn managed to beat OM is beyond me, probably helped that a few of their starters were out for the game or weren't 100%. So that MSU crap will be taken care of, Auburn just needs to regroup and stop fucking themselves over to start the damn games. Here's a stat for ya...since every fuckin game I hear some stat that has little to no bearing on the game that I'm watching, like if team X gangbangs all the cheerleaders at the Thursday fuckfest and if the moon is full the next night, then they're 37-2 the following Saturday game...if Auburn doesn't fuck themselves within the first four series on offense (stupid penalties or turnovers) then they're fucking undefeated.
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Doesn't matter who I pull for. Alabama will beat Mississippi State. So will Ole Miss.
Whatever happens after that I don't know.
But I don't want to go to Atlanta, really. I don't think a team that shits all over the bed and then pulls the sheets off and wipes the turds all over its face really has a right to go. The loss to TAMU was embarrassing, humiliating, demoralizing and disgraceful. There's no excuse for looking like bumblefucks, but we did.
I'll donate $2 to St. Jude today when I shop at Kohls to atone for thinking of football when there are sick kids in the world.
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Doesn't matter who I pull for. Alabama will beat Mississippi State. So will Ole Miss.
Whatever happens after that I don't know.
But I don't want to go to Atlanta, really. I don't think a team that shits all over the bed and then pulls the sheets off and wipes the turds all over its face really has a right to go. The loss to TAMU was embarrassing, humiliating, demoralizing and disgraceful. There's no excuse for looking like bumblefucks, but we did.
I'll donate $2 to St. Jude today when I shop at Kohls to atone for thinking of football when there are sick kids in the world.
And those were the high points.
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By the way our defense played, it's a very tall order.
Looking back, the only smoke and mirrors connected to this team was the defense.
And after we win in Tuscaloosa my hope is for the Turds to be matched up in a bowl against The Ohio State University. The "pride" of the conference will rest on their shoulders and a loss to Urban Meyer would be catastrophic in follow-up.
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if team X gangbangs all the cheerleaders at the Thursday fudgefest
Then I would wonder why team X is at a Jumbo KJ event.
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Let's just win out...let everything else fall where it may. Btw, not gonna pull for uat Saturday, but like I've said before uat will beat MSU bad. Ole Miss will also beat MSU...how Auburn managed to beat OM is beyond me, probably helped that a few of their starters were out for the game or weren't 100%. So that MSU crap will be taken care of, Auburn just needs to regroup and stop fucking themselves over to start the damn games. Here's a stat for ya...since every fuckin game I hear some stat that has little to no bearing on the game that I'm watching, like if team X gangbangs all the cheerleaders at the Thursday fuckfest and if the moon is full the next night, then they're 37-2 the following Saturday game...if Auburn doesn't fuck themselves within the first four series on offense (stupid penalties or turnovers) then they're fucking undefeated.
This.......
Doesn't matter who I pull for. Alabama will beat Mississippi State. So will Ole Miss.
Whatever happens after that I don't know.
But I don't want to go to Atlanta, really. I don't think a team that shits all over the bed and then pulls the sheets off and wipes the turds all over its face really has a right to go. The loss to TAMU was embarrassing, humiliating, demoralizing and disgraceful. There's no excuse for looking like bumblefucks, but we did.
I'll donate $2 to St. Jude today when I shop at Kohls to atone for thinking of football when there are sick kids in the world.
and this.
My personal opinion can change by a dominating performance this weekend followed by an IB win. Right now though, Auburn is beating themselves and it is too frustrating to think about the SECCG.
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This.......
and this.
My personal opinion can change by a dominating performance this weekend followed by an IB win. Right now though, Auburn is beating themselves and it is too frustrating to think about the SECCG football.
:facepalm:
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Then I would wonder why team X is at a Jumbo KJ event.
That's epic & bananas.
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That's epic & bananas.
Wait, your are gonna fist with bananas now?
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Wait, your are gonna fist with bananas now?
kinky
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Let's just win out...let everything else fall where it may. Btw, not gonna pull for uat Saturday, but like I've said before uat will beat MSU bad. Ole Miss will also beat MSU...how Auburn managed to beat OM is beyond me, probably helped that a few of their starters were out for the game or weren't 100%. So that MSU crap will be taken care of, Auburn just needs to regroup and stop fudgeing themselves over to start the damn games. Here's a stat for ya...since every fudgein game I hear some stat that has little to no bearing on the game that I'm watching, like if team X gangbangs all the cheerleaders at the Thursday fudgefest and if the moon is full the next night, then they're 37-2 the following Saturday game...if Auburn doesn't fudge themselves within the first four series on offense (stupid penalties or turnovers) then they're fudgeing undefeated.
The fuck you say! This is fucking fabulous.
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:facepalm:
Spoiled whiney little bitches some of you are. 2012 is only two years removed and some of you guys forget what REALLY bad football looks like. Good grief. Just like politics, emotions drive everything now.
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Spoiled whiney little bitches some of you are. 2012 is only two years removed and some of you guys forget what REALLY bad football looks like. Good grief. Just like politics, emotions drive everything now.
Yep.
Could have been 63-21 with Auburn fans having a glimmer of hope because a short, FCS-caliber quarterback threw a shitty pass to a gangly tight end that scraggled over Texas A&M's fourth stringers for a touchdown.
We could also instead of looking at SEC championship scenarios that are legit possibilities for us be staring at two horrific blowout shut outs against our arch-rivals.
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Yep.
Could have been 63-21 with Auburn fans having a glimmer of hope because a short, FCS-caliber quarterback threw a shitty pass to a gangly tight end that scraggled over Texas A&M's fourth stringers for a touchdown.
We could also instead of looking at SEC championship scenarios that are legit possibilities for us be staring at two horrific blowout shut outs against our arch-rivals.
And I'm not trying to be a homer. Far from it. Its more of an observation that we really have lost perspective on what bad is and, like Chad said, starting to eerily sound like Bammers in many ways.
As Prowler summed up nicely...we are probably just some self inflicted fuck ups against MSU and Aggy away from being undefeated. EJ is also working with less than a full deck on D and thats even when Gus is feeling kind enough to play Whitehead and Mincy full time. People can keep calling for his head all they want. Pruitt is even proving at UGA that you can't work miracles with serious personnel issues. It is what it is.
All of this said, we still have an excellent chance at having double digit wins this year. And against THAT schedule? Fuck me.
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And I'm not trying to be a homer. Far from it. Its more of an observation that we really have lost perspective on what bad is and, like Chad said, starting to eerily sound like Bammers in many ways.
As Prowler summed up nicely...we are probably just some self inflicted fuck ups against MSU and Aggy away from being undefeated. EJ is also working with less than a full deck on D and thats even when Gus is feeling kind enough to play Whitehead and Mincy full time. People can keep calling for his head all they want. Pruitt is even proving at UGA that you can't work miracles with serious personnel issues. It is what it is.
All of this said, we still have an excellent chance at having double digit wins this year. And against THAT schedule? Fuck me.
We all also need to consider the injury bug. Particularly with Lawson being out. A Clowney-esque talent that was dominating as a freshman. Imagine if we had him this year as a sophomore.
But I still don't like the secondary being this bad. We can say talent all day long, but when the same plays over and over again are going for 50+ yard touchdowns, that's a strategy issue.
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We all also need to consider the injury bug. Particularly with Lawson being out. A Clowney-esque talent that was dominating as a freshman. Imagine if we had him this year as a sophomore.
But I still don't like the secondary being this bad. We can say talent all day long, but when the same plays over and over again are going for 50+ yard touchdowns, that's a strategy issue.
This is all I am saying. Good coaching can make up the difference in lack of our talent or their betterment of talent. :dead: Ahead- The game in, game out missed assignments get really tiring after awhile.
I remember 2012 and the abortion that our football team was. I see no reason not to expect wins against teams like A&M in 2014.
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I'm with K on this. Even if all the dominoes fall our way, we do not deserve to go to Atlanta and we damn sure wouldn't win in the playoffs. I'm on the fence about our team always thinking that we will win if it's close...on one hand it's great that they never lose heart...but on the other, I need your ass to get tight thinking that we might actually lose.
I just can't put my finger on what is WRONG. I mean I see the dozens of mistakes we are making every damn game...but I am talking about Why it isn't clicking. I do not think Ellis or anyone else suddenly forgot how to fucking coach. I do not think our players give up. I just don't know what the fuck it is.
And right now, as it stands, we do not deserve to be there. We would just fuck it up.
Oh. And bring back Tracy Quinton Rocker please.
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I'm with K on this. Even if all the dominoes fall our way, we do not deserve to go to Atlanta and we damn sure wouldn't win in the playoffs. I'm on the fence about our team always thinking that we will win if it's close...on one hand it's great that they never lose heart...but on the other, I need your ass to get tight thinking that we might actually lose.
I just can't put my finger on what is WRONG. I mean I see the dozens of mistakes we are making every damn game...but I am talking about Why it isn't clicking. I do not think Ellis or anyone else suddenly forgot how to fucking coach. I do not think our players give up. I just don't know what the fuck it is.
And right now, as it stands, we do not deserve to be there. We would just fuck it up.
Oh. And bring back Tracy Quinton Rocker please.
What is this "We don't deserve" to be there bullshit?
Outside of Miss State, what team deserves to be there at this point? And if they lose two games, how would that mean that we don't deserve to be there?
Miss State beat us fairly soundly - though I still think we would have beat them on a neutral site or at home - but Texas A&M beat us because of one problem that killed us the first twenty minutes of the game. I don't know why the fumble-itis got us at the end of the game, but we went on a 21-6 run in the 2nd half and were one yard away from it being a 28-6 run for one of the most exciting comebacks of the season.
And wouldn't win the playoffs? Because of Florida State (no where near the team they were last year)? Oregon? Hahaha. Baylor? What team out there scares you into thinking we couldn't win on a neutral field?
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What is this "We don't deserve" to be there bullshit?
Outside of Miss State, what team deserves to be there at this point? And if they lose two games, how would that mean that we don't deserve to be there?
Miss State beat us fairly soundly - though I still think we would have beat them on a neutral site or at home - but Texas A&M beat us because of one problem that killed us the first twenty minutes of the game. I don't know why the fumble-itis got us at the end of the game, but we went on a 21-6 run in the 2nd half and were one yard away from it being a 28-6 run for one of the most exciting comebacks of the season.
And wouldn't win the playoffs? Because of Florida State (no where near the team they were last year)? Oregon? Hahaha. Baylor? What team out there scares you into thinking we couldn't win on a neutral field?
Seeing as how aTm just beat us at HOME, I'm not sure we could beat any of those on a neutral site.
Some of y'all can try to justify our issues as much as you can, but in the end, we still have some serious issues on this team.
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Its pretty clear the staff is good with any kind of win. As a fan I'm not so comfortable with that but then my job doesn't depend on a W. So let's not be critical because they are doing the best they can people. Stop it with the lofty aspirations... and death to jmar!
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Its pretty clear the staff is good with any kind of win. As a fan I'm not so comfortable with that but then my job doesn't depend on a W. So let's not be critical because they are doing the best they can people. Stop it with the lofty aspirations... and death to jmar!
I don't think we'll have a consensus on this, except of course the death to jmar part. On everything else there are likely varying opinions.
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I don't think we'll have a consensus on this, except of course the death to jmar part. On everything else there are likely varying opinions.
Yeah I'm not much of a rah rah type. I can revel in victory but I fail as a cheerleader.
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What is this "We don't deserve" to be there bullshit?
Outside of Miss State, what team deserves to be there at this point? And if they lose two games, how would that mean that we don't deserve to be there?
Miss State beat us fairly soundly - though I still think we would have beat them on a neutral site or at home - but Texas A&M beat us because of one problem that killed us the first twenty minutes of the game. I don't know why the fumble-itis got us at the end of the game, but we went on a 21-6 run in the 2nd half and were one yard away from it being a 28-6 run for one of the most exciting comebacks of the season.
And wouldn't win the playoffs? Because of Florida State (no where near the team they were last year)? Oregon? Hahaha. Baylor? What team out there scares you into thinking we couldn't win on a neutral field?
Agreed.
But I do think that TCU and Bayor are pretty fucking good. Personally, I think TCU could score 70 on us.
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What is this "We don't deserve" to be there bullshit?
Outside of Miss State, what team deserves to be there at this point? And if they lose two games, how would that mean that we don't deserve to be there?
Miss State beat us fairly soundly - though I still think we would have beat them on a neutral site or at home - but Texas A&M beat us because of one problem that killed us the first twenty minutes of the game. I don't know why the fumble-itis got us at the end of the game, but we went on a 21-6 run in the 2nd half and were one yard away from it being a 28-6 run for one of the most exciting comebacks of the season.
And wouldn't win the playoffs? Because of Florida State (no where near the team they were last year)? Oregon? Hahaha. Baylor? What team out there scares you into thinking we couldn't win on a neutral field?
Us. Sorry, but as inconsistent as we are on defensive you just don't know which team is going to show up.
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Yeah I'm not much of a rah rah type. I can revel in victory but I fail as a cheerleader.
Don't beat yourself up jmar. You are a failure at much more than just cheerleading, I'm sure.
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I don't think anyone is appreciating how unlikely last year's run was. This is only Gus's 2nd year and we're way ahead of schedule.
Simmahdonna.
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I don't think anyone is appreciating how unlikely last year's run was. This is only Gus's 2nd year and we're way ahead of schedule.
Simmahdonna.
Once we get this defense built the skies the limit.
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Everyone that's saying that Auburn doesn't deserve going to the SEC Championship Game...
Raise your hand if you'd be happy if Auburn went to the SEC Championship Game and won.
My hand is raised...both of them actually...as I'm praising the Lord for the miracle he gave us lowly fans.
Raise your hand or hands if you'd be happy to see Auburn in the Championship Playoff.
My hands are still raised from the first statement.
Do I think it's possible? Yes. Probable? No to both.
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Everyone that's saying that Auburn doesn't deserve going to the SEC Championship Game...
Raise your hand if you'd be happy if Auburn went to the SEC Championship Game and won.
My hand is raised...both of them actually...as I'm praising the Lord for the miracle he gave us lowly fans.
Raise your hand or hands if you'd be happy to see Auburn in the Championship Playoff.
My hands are still raised from the first statement.
Do I think it's possible? Yes. Probable? No to both.
I thought you were an atheist.
Yes, I'm thankfull to God for the miraculous turnaround from 2012. Thank you Lord for bringing Gus home.
But how many national chpionships could we have won with a decent tackling defense? The answer is 2. If we don't develop more pass rush from the front 4 and improve tackling in the back these remaining games, I'm praying for new defensive coaches.
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Everyone that's saying that Auburn doesn't deserve going to the SEC Championship Game...
Raise your hand if you'd be happy if Auburn went to the SEC Championship Game and won.
My hand is raised...both of them actually...as I'm praising the Lord for the miracle he gave us lowly fans.
Raise your hand or hands if you'd be happy to see Auburn in the Championship Playoff.
My hands are still raised from the first statement.
Do I think it's possible? Yes. Probable? No to both.
:meme: :meme:
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I am not going to pull for Alabama, but I am not going to be upset if they win. If both Auburn and Alabama win, November 29th decides who goes to the SEC Championship game.
Because CBS picked up the Egg Bowl, we will know early into the Iron Bowl if the winner goes to Atlanta.
Fuck all of you saying you don't want to go or that we don't deserve to go. That is the most assinine thing I have read. If Auburn beat UGA and Alabama at home, and wins the SEC, y'all can kiss my ass if you don't want Auburn to be a part of the playoffs.
That's the dumbest shit I have read on here. And with a site that has some of the posters the X has, that is saying a lot.
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I am not going to pull for Alabama, but I am not going to be upset if they win. If both Auburn and Alabama win, November 29th decides who goes to the SEC Championship game.
Because CBS picked up the Egg Bowl, we will know early into the Iron Bowl if the winner goes to Atlanta.
Fuck all of you saying you don't want to go or that we don't deserve to go. That is the most assinine thing I have read. If Auburn beat UGA and Alabama at home, and wins the SEC, y'all can kiss my ass if you don't want Auburn to be a part of the playoffs.
That's the dumbest shit I have read on here. And with a site that has some of the posters the X has, that is saying a lot.
I think what most people are saying (and they are basing it on last Sat) is that they don't see a team capable of doing what needs to be done. Not that they don't want them to do it. JMO.
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I am not going to pull for Alabama, but I am not going to be upset if they win. If both Auburn and Alabama win, November 29th decides who goes to the SEC Championship game.
Because CBS picked up the Egg Bowl, we will know early into the Iron Bowl if the winner goes to Atlanta.
Fuck all of you saying you don't want to go or that we don't deserve to go. That is the most assinine thing I have read. If Auburn beat UGA and Alabama at home, and wins the SEC, y'all can kiss my ass if you don't want Auburn to be a part of the playoffs.
That's the dumbest shit I have read on here. And with a site that has some of the posters the X has, that is saying a lot.
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinions and some, like mine, were directly on the heals of a one of the worse feelings that I have had after an Auburn loss since the BCSNCG.
I still have hope we can win out, that is just me and how I think. Point still remains though, the D has to get better starting now or it could get ugly.
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LSU went to the BCS (and won) with 2 losses.
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I thought you were an atheist.
Yes, I'm thankfull to God for the miraculous turnaround from 2012. Thank you Lord for bringing Gus home.
But how many national chpionships could we have won with a decent tackling defense? The answer is 2. If we don't develop more pass rush from the front 4 and improve tackling in the back these remaining games, I'm praying for new defensive coaches.
No sir. What we lack is one bad passed rush end to cover many of the flaws that we have. That's no revelation...just a fact.
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Everyone that's saying that Auburn doesn't deserve going to the SEC Championship Game...
Raise your hand if you'd be happy if Auburn went to the SEC Championship Game and won.
My hand is raised...both of them actually...as I'm praising the Lord for the miracle he gave us lowly fans.
Raise your hand or hands if you'd be happy to see Auburn in the Championship Playoff.
My hands are still raised from the first statement.
Do I think it's possible? Yes. Probable? No to both.
#iiswichoo
I have no idea how we would fare, but I would love to be there again while the turds get beat by nobody...again!
And while it might look bad, thus team could go off at any time in a big way. The talent and explosiveness of the offense could hang with anyone barring mistakes. And then if the defense gets lucky, who knows.
We are an anomaly. But we have as much right as any of the others to be there if we win out.
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Guys, guys, let's settle down and look at this objectively. I know everyone has been waiting for me to break the game film down and I was able to do that yesterday. Basically what happened was they were hiking the ball and throwing that bastard anywhere the fuck they wanted to in JHS.
They ran it toward the endzone effectively as well. They crossed the goal line several times and that allotted for six points on each occasion.
As best I can tell, what happened was that we ran out of luck. We're all out of the juice. We're fucked up guys. Snake eyes.
That's all.
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How do you type with both hands up in the air?
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LSU went to the BCS (and won) with 2 losses.
You think they give two flying fucks about those losses or how they looked in any of their other wins?
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LSU went to the BCS (and won) with 2 losses.
And, they jumped like 5 spots or so to land in the title game?
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And I'm not trying to be a homer. Far from it. Its more of an observation that we really have lost perspective on what bad is and, like Chad said, starting to eerily sound like Bammers in many ways.
I really hate when people bring karma and whatnot into the fortunes of the Auburn football team, but part of me wants to tell the Auburn fans that bitched about the way in which we beat the #3 team in the country, to whom we were underdogs...hope you're happy. You wanted so badly to bitch about how awful we are and how shitty we looked. Well, THIS WEEKEND you got your wish.
Alabama is every bit the "team of destiny" people said we were last year. Lucky fucking assed breaks every step of the way. They SHOULD have lost to Arkansas and LSU. They looked like shit against West Virginia and Florida. Yes, we lost to a team that they beat the pants off of 59-0. But they should have lost to teams we beat 45-21 and 41-7.
And the only reason we lost to aTm is because we did it to ourselves. Well, the refs helped their fair share (CAP recovered that goddamn fumble. The A&M kid pretty much admitted it (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2014/11/texas_am_on_auburns_goal-line.html).), but I'm not going to fall into that excuse. We shouldn't have let it get that close. The 10 point swing from the blocked field goal ran all the way back on us was the dagger in our heart. Turning the ball over on our first possession again to allow them to go up 14-0 in the first two minutes of the game didn't help. Neither did Reese's butt fumble. Neither did CAP fumbling in the first place.
All of that shit combined was the complete antithesis of the "everything going right" "team of destiny" shit we heard last year (and even last week after the Ole Miss game). In those cases we're talking about a play here or there. With the exception of the UGA game (that was cancelling out a blown Murray TD call), the others were more about pure skill than luck, but I've ranted on that before. Anyway, we fucked up in every way imaginable against A&M and were still in position to win the game at the very end.
So what does it all mean? I still think we're better than just about every team in the country. But I also think we shoot ourselves in the goddamn foot more than any of them. Whose fault is that? I don't know. Can we get our shit together to close out amen-corner? I doubt it. But it is possible that this pisses our team off enough to focus their rage on flawless execution to put together a complete game like we did against the corndogs. And if we do that, our best is good enough to beat both UGA and Bama, IMO.
Oh and there's pretty much zero chance we make it to Atlanta, much less the playoffs, but I'll be goddamned if I don't want us to play in either if the clouds parted and the stars aligned and that miracle was granted. As others eluded to, if we make it to Atlanta, then mathematically, we deserve it.
And I know math.
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I am not really complaining about where we are. I recall 2012 and just how deep that shithole was...take away 2013 and we are STILL fucking light years away from that. And I'm grateful.
But I am also a realist. I love Auburn but you can't tell me that the way we are playing RIGHT NOW we would win the playoffs. That doesn't mean that can't change but it's going to take a fuck load more than the dominoes falling our way. And it damn sure doesn't mean I don't want us to kick the shit out of Georgia and Bammer. If we do that...if we look like the team that kicked the shit out of LSU...then I will happily kiss your ass and say I don't know dick about football.
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And thanks, Chad, for saying it better than I did.
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I really hate when people bring karma and whatnot into the fortunes of the Auburn football team, but part of me wants to tell the Auburn fans that bitched about the way in which we beat the #3 team in the country, to whom we were underdogs...hope you're happy. You wanted so badly to bitch about how awful we are and how shitty we looked. Well, THIS WEEKEND you got your wish.
Alabama is every bit the "team of destiny" people said we were last year. Lucky fucking assed breaks every step of the way. They SHOULD have lost to Arkansas and LSU. They looked like shit against West Virginia and Florida. Yes, we lost to a team that they beat the pants off of 59-0. But they should have lost to teams we beat 45-21 and 41-7.
And the only reason we lost to aTm is because we did it to ourselves. Well, the refs helped their fair share (CAP recovered that goddamn fumble. The A&M kid pretty much admitted it (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2014/11/texas_am_on_auburns_goal-line.html).), but I'm not going to fall into that excuse. We shouldn't have let it get that close. The 10 point swing from the blocked field goal ran all the way back on us was the dagger in our heart. Turning the ball over on our first possession again to allow them to go up 14-0 in the first two minutes of the game didn't help. Neither did Reese's butt fumble. Neither did CAP fumbling in the first place.
All of that shit combined was the complete antithesis of the "everything going right" "team of destiny" shit we heard last year (and even last week after the Ole Miss game). In those cases we're talking about a play here or there. With the exception of the UGA game (that was cancelling out a blown Murray TD call), the others were more about pure skill than luck, but I've ranted on that before. Anyway, we fucked up in every way imaginable against A&M and were still in position to win the game at the very end.
So what does it all mean? I still think we're better than just about every team in the country. But I also think we shoot ourselves in the goddamn foot more than any of them. Whose fault is that? I don't know. Can we get our shit together to close out amen-corner? I doubt it. But it is possible that this pisses our team off enough to focus their rage on flawless execution to put together a complete game like we did against the corndogs. And if we do that, our best is good enough to beat both UGA and Bama, IMO.
Oh and there's pretty much zero chance we make it to Atlanta, much less the playoffs, but I'll be goddamned if I don't want us to play in either if the clouds parted and the stars aligned and that miracle was granted. As others eluded to, if we make it to Atlanta, then mathematically, we deserve it.
And I know math.
Great write up.
One issue though with the bolded:
I'd say the chances are pretty good of the Iron Bowl being the SEC West championship game.
Like Auburn, Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, and pretty much every top ten team this year, Miss State has had its fair share fuck ups and boneheaded decisions and close calls. They just so happened to stay on top at the end of each game.
They have the 123rd pass defense in the country. That's 21 spots LOWER than Auburn's.
Also going with the very unnecessary eye test, they don't look a #1 team in the country. Outside of some impressive plays by Dak and Steroid-Boy, I'd say they're the weakest #1 team I've seen in years.
They go to Alabama and to Ole Miss. Alabama like you said is having another damn dream season, so I'm sure they'll beat the pants off of Miss State. Ole Miss was pretty banged up after playing LSU and Auburn, and they got Presbyterian and an off week to heal up before Arkansas and Miss State.
I fully expect Miss State to have two losses by year's end.
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I think we will win out. Why not? We can outscore any team we play.
What happens when we win out, Mississippi St. loses to Alabama and then follows with a loss to Ole Miss?
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Okay Tom Luginbill and Kevin Carter both say Auburn has the best chance among the two loss teams to play themselves back in it.
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I think Auburn can play with anyone in the counrty, but I think that both Baylor and TCU would give Auburn the most fits. Right now, I don't think that Auburn could beat those teams 5 times out of 10. Oregon, Alabama, Miss State, Ohio State...I think Auburn could and would beat those teams AT LEAST 5 out of 10 times.
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I think Auburn can play with anyone in the counrty, but I think that both Baylor and TCU would give Auburn the most fits. Right now, I don't think that Auburn could beat those teams 5 times out of 10. Oregon, Alabama, Miss State, Ohio State...I think Auburn could and would beat those teams AT LEAST 5 out of 10 times.
Yeah TCU is a buzzsaw. Haven't paid as close attention to Baylor since early on when Petty was hurting but it looks as if they've hit their stride.
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Ya'll can get all high and mighty and pissed off if you choose.
Would I be happy if we went to the SEC-CG and won? Of course. I'd be just as happy if we didn't.
There was a time, I think, when I let football fortunes define me. I wanted to win for the wrong reasons. Maybe I still do. Wanted to win to shut up that stupid fucking queef chugger at the grocery store who made jackass comments like "we don't got no bags for no aubrens, heh heh heh"
But he didn't shut up. We won. And he didn't shut up. He just changed the tune. "Yawll done cheated, cain't win nothin' without cheatin.... ya'll ain't got no coarch, just a high school gimmick... 15... blah, blah fucking rawwwl tarrrd blah..."
So we won some more.
And he didn't shut up. None of them did. They just made their obnoxious crimpson A's bigger so that they now take up the entire back windshield.
After my daughter graduated from there I got to the point that I realized that I don't give a fuck what Jimmy Joe grocery bagger has to say. Fuck his uneducated ass. I realized that Auburn wasn't just a football game to me. I love Auburn -- all of it. I love who we are, what we represent, what our people have contributed to society, how we carry ourselves. I love it all. Football? Just a part. The part I can bitch about because I know the difference between a tight end and a tackle. Still hate Bama but that's never going away.
I see both sides of Saturday. There are some who want to see a heroic comeback denied by some late hiccups. Others want to see a demoralizing dismantling at the hands of a team we had the talent and coaching to dominate. Both are true. Neither are.
If we were to somehow miracle our ass into the SEC-CG, though? I don't want that same kind of display. It wasn't just that we lost it was the multiple hows that irritated the fan in me.
We played sloppy. We were disorganized. We were confused. We made careless mistakes. We hit people out of bounds for no reason. We jumped offsides to extend drives. We executed poorly. We exhibited little discipline. We played lackadaisically.
We continued the trend of getting worse at the simple things -- something we survived against SC and Ole Miss barely -- and paid the price for it.
That's what distresses me. I want us to be in the SEC-CG and/or playoffs because we played well enough to deserve it and because we proved to be the better team. We did that last year. We did that in 2010. We did that in 2004.
Losing to a very bad A&M team was disturbing. Very much so. And I'm sorry if it offends you, but the team I saw play on Saturday is not one I want to see backing into the SEC-CG. That team was atrocious on defense and exciting but extremely sloppy on offense.
If we play well enough to get there, then obviously the song changes. I won't be disappointed. But what I saw and heard this weekend simply wasn't a championship caliber team.
Bama's not either so I don't know who that leaves, really.
We laughed at the Georgia loss to Florida, but to be perfectly honest? The shit we took in our own bed Saturday night was 11x worse.
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Really, there's only one thing to do now. Win the whole goddamn thing.
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I really hate when people bring karma and whatnot into the fortunes of the Auburn football team, but part of me wants to tell the Auburn fans that bitched about the way in which we beat the #3 team in the country, to whom we were underdogs...hope you're happy. You wanted so badly to bitch about how awful we are and how shootty we looked. Well, THIS WEEKEND
The karma doesn't bother me but the whatnot makes me livid.
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Really, there's only one thing to do now. Win the whole goddamn thing.
You guys stink!
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I don't agree that we don't deserve to be in the playoff. I haven't seen anyone that I don't think we can't hang with.
Have we shot ourselves in the foot multiple times...yes. I do think that we are a better team than both of the teams we have lost to. I also think that if we cut out the BS mistakes we are in the top 2 of the best teams in the nation.
We still have 3 games left and I ain't conceding shit!!!
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Let me interrupt the analysis to say first that the new top 4 are MSU, Oregon, FSU and TCU. Bama stayed either 5th or 6th. Can't recall. Anyway, I say that to segue into a meaningless rant. Heard Gary Danielson on PF last night. Contrary to the feelings of most on here, I actually like his takes for the most part. Not always but then, who do you agree with 100% of the time? But last night was just classic :facepalm:
Note to Gary, Finedong and the overwhelming majority of media members. Every single time that Bama and LSU play, it is NOT the game of the century. These are NOT the most incredibly talented, athletic, best coached, unbelievable teams to ever grace a football field together. Of course, the only topic talked about was "Tell us about what you thought of Bama/LSU" and "Tell us your thoughts on Bama/MSU coming up."
Gary: First off, the intensity....the unbelievable hitting. Paul, you were down on the field. Was that not the most intense game you've ever seen?
PF: Wow, incredible.
Gary: I can just hear Nick Saban in the locker room after the game. "Everyone who wants to play in the NFL one day, raise your hand. Well, what you just experienced out there is the way it is every Sunday in the NFL." Paul, these were two NFL type teams going at each other with 240 pound backs and 320 pound linemen and neither would give an inch and Blake Sims had an AJ McCarron moment and no one can possibly understand the unbelievable pressure and intensity of the moment on that last drive and I've never seen.....
The committee, which I hate, didn't buy in. They said an ass-whipping over a top 10 team far outweighs a struggle and lucky breaks to beat a very average LSU. That's right, LSU is an average, at best, SEC team. They've had their shit pushed in twice. They squeaked by a horrible Florida team. They did beat Ole Miss (And stormed the field) but could only muster 10 whole points in doing so. They have no QB and their entire offense consists of handing the ball off up the middle all night long. Baton Rude is NOT the worst place on earth to play. I've been there when the game was on the line and thought how much louder JHS was. And guess what. When an opposing LB is closing in to make a tackle, he really doesn't give a fucking damn how long the fans have been drinking that day.
Again ,glad the committee didn't buy in.
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I'm ready for Gary and Verne's generation to just...well, is wrong to say die off? Retire maybe? But they won't seem to retire even though their faces are falling off.
They love that old fashioned, slam into the line of scrimmage, boring ass football that Alabama and LSU play every year. I'm sure they said the same thing about Michigan-Ohio State back when Tressel was coaching against Carr.
But they aren't the only two that feel that way. There are plenty of people in influential positions that have archaic and atavistic feelings about football. I just heard Mike Greenberg say that Ohio State could have an argument for the final four because they beat Minnesota (lolwut) and will face a potential top 12 Nebraska team if Nebraska wins out. That's someone that genuinely feels that Minnesota and Nebraska are quality wins and could propel a team over SEC teams, Oregon, Florida State, TCU, and whoever else has been putting on a show. All because of Big 10 blood running in their veins.
Luckily though, the committee doesn't seem to give a shit. I can't tell you how surprised and pleased I am with the committee. None of them are buying into the traditionalism, the eye tests, and the "supposed-to-bes." All they are asking is what have you done on the field and against what opponents?
Also, they're sticking to their opinions on who the best teams are. Some may dislike this strategy because it doesn't punish teams enough for losing. Take Auburn for instance. Lose to Miss State, get ranked 3rd. Lose to Texas A&M, drop to 9th. Or Ole Miss. Lose to LSU, drop to 4th. Lose to Auburn, drop to 11th.
The old polls would just throw teams away once they hit a loss or two. Instead of admitting that a one or two loss team can still be one of the top five or ten teams, they would just throw them around 18 or 19 so that they never have a chance at redemption.
Not any more.
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I'm ready for Gary and Verne's generation to just...well, is wrong to say die off? Retire maybe? But they won't seem to retire even though their faces are falling off.
They love that old fashioned, slam into the line of scrimmage, boring ass football that Alabama and LSU play every year. I'm sure they said the same thing about Michigan-Ohio State back when Tressel was coaching against Carr.
But they aren't the only two that feel that way. There are plenty of people in influential positions that have archaic and atavistic feelings about football. I just heard Mike Greenberg say that Ohio State could have an argument for the final four because they beat Minnesota (lolwut) and will face a potential top 12 Nebraska team if Nebraska wins out. That's someone that genuinely feels that Minnesota and Nebraska are quality wins and could propel a team over SEC teams, Oregon, Florida State, TCU, and whoever else has been putting on a show. All because of Big 10 blood running in their veins.
Luckily though, the committee doesn't seem to give a shit. I can't tell you how surprised and pleased I am with the committee. None of them are buying into the traditionalism, the eye tests, and the "supposed-to-bes." All they are asking is what have you done on the field and against what opponents?
Also, they're sticking to their opinions on who the best teams are. Some may dislike this strategy because it doesn't punish teams enough for losing. Take Auburn for instance. Lose to Miss State, get ranked 3rd. Lose to Texas A&M, drop to 9th. Or Ole Miss. Lose to LSU, drop to 4th. Lose to Auburn, drop to 11th.
The old polls would just throw teams away once they hit a loss or two. Instead of admitting that a one or two loss team can still be one of the top five or ten teams, they would just throw them around 18 or 19 so that they never have a chance at redemption.
Not any more.
Exactly. I've been saying since before they came out with their first poll and especially after that first week. They are doing everything right. I get their methodology and it is basically what I feel like I have been screaming into a void all these years should be how it works.
And to Snag's point, it is tearing ESPN up. I watched the poll countdown show last night. Reece Davis was practically in tears saying "BUT BAMA!" They put all these graphics up showing that Bama had the #4 SOS in the country (before playing us & MSU? How? WVU that difference maker? Pfft.) And showing that TCU and Baylor are 242nd & 985th or whatever. Danny Kannell with all his SEC trolling glory even sounded dumbfounded that the committee dared to go with TCU over Bama Almighty.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11861305 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11861305)
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Gary: First off, the intensity....the unbelievable hitting. Paul, you were down on the field. Was that not the most intense game you've ever seen?
I will say this, if you watched that game and did not see the ferocious hitting going on, then you were either drunk or stoned.
I was envious of a defense that was comfortable enough to run up and put everything into every hit without worrying if they missed there was no one behind them. I've seen more of our players run up and stop this season/ Or dive at the feet. Man up. Hit them square on and try to knock their jock off. Sure you might get run over a couple of times, but at least let them know you are there. i was happy to see Neiko Whitehead back. At least he will pop a runner.
Our D seems so confused that they cannot just play ball. And that is what I liked about the turd/LSU game. LSU won that and then pulled a hatter there at the end.
On another note, I don't think the turd defense can play like that against us. We are not a line up and run right at you type of offense. You have to take good angles with us. And that is a good thing. It take away a lot of those easy hard hits.
I just want to win out and dash the hopes of uga and turd. If we get a break and get into the SECCG, then so be it.
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I will say this, if you watched that game and did not see the ferocious hitting going on, then you were either drunk or stoned.
He was both.
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I will say this, if you watched that game and did not see the ferocious hitting going on, then you were either drunk or stoned.
I was envious of a defense that was comfortable enough to run up and put everything into every hit without worrying if they missed there was no one behind them.
Both defenses (LSU and Bama) are built on read and react. Both offenses are slow progressing, run up the middle, slug-it-out snoozefests.
It's pretty easy to get big hits when you're taking on a fullback lead blocking for a skinnier fullback on an ISO.
Also, both LSU and Alabama have shit ass quarterbacks, so when they didn't have to check the downfield passing game, they could play closer to the line of scrimmage and just read the hole. Then fill it. Then Gary and Verne would splooge.
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Exactly. I've been saying since before they came out with their first poll and especially after that first week. They are doing everything right. I get their methodology and it is basically what I feel like I have been screaming into a void all these years should be how it works.
And to Snag's point, it is tearing ESPN up. I watched the poll countdown show last night. Reece Davis was practically in tears saying "BUT BAMA!" They put all these graphics up showing that Bama had the #4 SOS in the country (before playing us & MSU? How? WVU that difference maker? Pfft.) And showing that TCU and Baylor are 242nd & 985th or whatever. Danny Kannell with all his SEC trolling glory even sounded dumbfounded that the committee dared to go with TCU over Bama Almighty.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11861305 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11861305)
You need to get your typewriter checked out. I've noticed a lot of your words are just randomly appearing in bold print. Disregard if this is intentional. I haven't read any of it so maybe it is.
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I like the committee so far. I was really worried about the human element, worried that ESPN, SI etc. would influence how the committee voted. So far they haven't. And it doesn't bother me that Alabama is out of the top 4, because if they beat #1 this weekend and probably another top 10 in two weeks, AND win the SEC.....they will finish in the top 4.
If they don't, they are out.
FSU loses? Out. MSU? Oregon? TCU? All finished if they lose. Really, it's only a 4 team playoff AFTER the regular season is over. Until then? It appears to be a 10 team playoff and every week counts.
I like it.
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Exactly. I've been saying since before they came out with their first poll and especially after that first week. They are doing everything right. I get their methodology and it is basically what I feel like I have been screaming into a void all these years should be how it works.
And to Snag's point, it is tearing ESPN up. I watched the poll countdown show last night. Reece Davis was practically in tears saying "BUT BAMA!" They put all these graphics up showing that Bama had the #4 SOS in the country (before playing us & MSU? How? WVU that difference maker? Pfft.) And showing that TCU and Baylor are 242nd & 985th or whatever. Danny Kannell with all his SEC trolling glory even sounded dumbfounded that the committee dared to go with TCU over Bama Almighty.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11861305 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11861305)
See I think the committee is very smart, I give them a lot of credit. bama will be in the top 4 if they beat MSU this week. So jumping TCU after an impressive Kansas State victory gives them the spot (that I think they deserve) and the bama issue will take care of itself after this weekend. Smart.
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See I think the committee is very smart, I give them a lot of credit. bama will be in the top 4 if they beat MSU this week. So jumping TCU after an impressive Kansas State victory gives them the spot (that I think they deserve) and the bama issue will take care of itself after this weekend. Smart.
What happens to State if Bama wins a close one and wins out and other 3 win out? It looks like either Bama or state get screwed and prob Bama.
Surely they don't whack an undefeated team to make room. But if FSU looks sloppy, maybe.
Btw, I'm thinking the Gators have a shot at FSU.
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I will say this, if you watched that game and did not see the ferocious hitting going on, then you were either drunk or stoned.
I was envious of a defense that was comfortable enough to run up and put everything into every hit without worrying if they missed there was no one behind them. I've seen more of our players run up and stop this season/ Or dive at the feet. Man up. Hit them square on and try to knock their jock off. Sure you might get run over a couple of times, but at least let them know you are there. i was happy to see Neiko Whitehead back. At least he will pop a runner.
Our D seems so confused that they cannot just play ball. And that is what I liked about the turd/LSU game. LSU won that and then pulled a hatter there at the end.
On another note, I don't think the turd defense can play like that against us. We are not a line up and run right at you type of offense. You have to take good angles with us. And that is a good thing. It take away a lot of those easy hard hits.
I just want to win out and dash the hopes of uga and turd. If we get a break and get into the SECCG, then so be it.
Didn't watch all the game. Driving home from AU. The point is that Danielson was talking about this game as if every player on the field was Ray Lewis in his prime. I've seen LSU play both on TV and in person and trust me, they didn't morph into the Ravens just because they took Bama to overtime. LSU is not a good team but playing the Tahd close automatically means you're NFL caliber.
It's the same with Arkansas. A 14-13 loss meant "They're the best no-wins-in-6-years team on the planet."
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Btw, I'm thinking the Gators have a shot at FSU.
Don't count out the U this weekend, either.
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Didn't watch all the game. Driving home from AU. The point is that Danielson was talking about this game as if every player on the field was Ray Lewis in his prime. I've seen LSU play both on TV and in person and trust me, they didn't morph into the Ravens just because they took Bama to overtime. LSU is not a good team but playing the Tahd close automatically means you're NFL caliber.
It's the same with Arkansas. A 14-13 loss meant "They're the best no-wins-in-6-years team on the planet."
I think it was more a result of the way both teams match up against each other. And that made it look like an NFL game. A lot of straight up head to head hits.
I don't think we give them that opportunity. But they were laying some leather.
And i have not seen our defense do that this season. We have a spot here or there where we get a good hit in, but even Therezie has not had a lot of good hits. We just look too confused to hit.
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Btw, I'm thinking the Gators have a shot at FSU.
I think they do as well but you know a lot of the credit for the scheming has to go to Muschamp for coming up with such a good gameplan to keep their minds elsewhere.
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What happens to State if Bama wins a close one and wins out and other 3 win out? It looks like either Bama or state get screwed and prob Bama.
Surely they don't whack an undefeated team to make room. But if FSU looks sloppy, maybe.
Bama will be 4 (maybe 3), MSU 5. If they win, book this.
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I think they do as well but you know a lot of the credit for the scheming has to go to Muschamp for coming up with such a good gameplan to keep their minds elsewhere.
You think the Unis are something, wait till you see the Coaches shirts.
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You think the Unis are something, wait till you see the Coaches shirts.
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Oh shart
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What happens to State if Bama wins a close one and wins out and other 3 win out? It looks like either Bama or state get screwed and prob Bama.
Surely they don't whack an undefeated team to make room. But if FSU looks sloppy, maybe.
Btw, I'm thinking the Gators have a shot at FSU.
If Bama wins out, they're in. Especially if MSU wins out after Bama. Judging by everything that the committee has done so far, there is no way to justify leaving them out. The committee has also shown that just because you're undefeated doesn't mean you're automatically best either. If you're going by Sagarin Ratings when looking at who has the most difficult schedule, Auburn is #2, Alabama is #3, MSU is #45 and FSU is #51. FSU's best win is against a then #5 ranked team that has since lost another game by 24 points. Outside of that, they have wins against then #22 and #25 teams; one of which has dropped out of the top 25.
I could see them leaving FSU out due to their easy schedule. They would probably lose 2-3 games if they were in the SECW.
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If Bama wins out, they're in. Especially if MSU wins out after Bama. Judging by everything that the committee has done so far, there is no way to justify leaving them out. The committee has also shown that just because you're undefeated doesn't mean you're automatically best either. If you're going by Sagarin Ratings when looking at who has the most difficult schedule, Auburn is #2, Alabama is #3, MSU is #45 and FSU is #51. FSU's best win is against a then #5 ranked team that has since lost another game by 24 points. Outside of that, they have wins against then #22 and #25 teams; one of which has dropped out of the top 25.
I could see them leaving FSU out due to their easy schedule. They would probably lose 2-3 games if they were in the SECW.
So, in your scenario, Bama and MSU could make it? I can't see an undefeated FSU drooping out, or any other team that doesn't lose.
I'm thinking the margin of victory factors more for Bama than State. If State barely wins, they are good. If Bama barely wins, I don't know that State drops out and Bama replaces them.
Maybe so but it looks like the old "if you're going to lose, lose early" may still apply.
Maybe if you're in now, you stay in as long as you keep winning, regardless of margin. It will be interesting.
I didn't want us to win the west, while we were still in the top 4. Now, that looks like our only option is to win the SEC, so I'm all in for the ATL. I don't have any trouble pulling for Bama Saturday but I'm not banking on all of the wins that have to happen in order for us to make it.
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So, in your scenario, Bama and MSU could make it? I can't see an undefeated FSU drooping out, or any other team that doesn't lose.
I'm thinking the margin of victory factors more for Bama than State. If State barely wins, they are good. If Bama barely wins, I don't know that State drops out and Bama replaces them.
Maybe so but it looks like the old "if you're going to lose, lose early" may still apply.
Maybe if you're in now, you stay in as long as you keep winning, regardless of margin. It will be interesting.
I didn't want us to win the west, while we were still in the top 4. Now, that looks like our only option is to win the SEC, so I'm all in for the ATL. I don't have any trouble pulling for Bama Saturday but I'm not banking on all of the wins that have to happen in order for us to make it.
We need three wins outside of Auburn winning out.
Alabama to beat Mississippi State.
Ole Miss to beat Arkansas and Mississippi State.
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We need three wins outside of Auburn winning out.
Alabama to beat Mississippi State.
Ole Miss to beat Arkansas and Mississippi State.
Don't we also need SC to beat Gators? If we tie at two losses with State for the tie breaker?
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So, in your scenario, Bama and MSU could make it? I can't see an undefeated FSU drooping out, or any other team that doesn't lose.
I'm thinking the margin of victory factors more for Bama than State. If State barely wins, they are good. If Bama barely wins, I don't know that State drops out and Bama replaces them.
Maybe so but it looks like the old "if you're going to lose, lose early" may still apply.
Maybe if you're in now, you stay in as long as you keep winning, regardless of margin. It will be interesting.
I didn't want us to win the west, while we were still in the top 4. Now, that looks like our only option is to win the SEC, so I'm all in for the ATL. I don't have any trouble pulling for Bama Saturday but I'm not banking on all of the wins that have to happen in order for us to make it.
I promise there will only be one SEC team in this thing. Right now, they have it perfectly representative. There's still some working-itself-out to do, but if they have ONE SEC team (Preferably the SEC Champion. After this week it will be the winner of MSU-Bama), ONE Pac-10 team (Preferably Oregon), ONE ACC team (undefeated two years running FSU), and ONE Big XII team (TCU or Baylor).
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Don't we also need SC to beat Gators? If we tie at two losses with State for the tie breaker?
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So, in your scenario, Bama and MSU could make it? I can't see an undefeated FSU drooping out, or any other team that doesn't lose.
MSU is in a precarious situation. If they lose to Bama, all they have after that are Vandy and Ole Miss. If MSU loses a very close game to Bama, maybe they only drop a few spots. Their remaining games alone don't carry enough weight to get them back in, so they are going to need some help. Bottom line, if MSU loses, I don't see them getting back in.
I'm thinking the margin of victory factors more for Bama than State. If State barely wins, they are good. If Bama barely wins, I don't know that State drops out and Bama replaces them.
It doesn't matter if Bama wins by a point in two OTs. This late in the season, ranked where Bama is, if you beat the #1 team and win out the rest of the way you're in. If MSU wins by a point in two OTs, they're in as long as they win out. Like you said, if you're going to lose then lose early.
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What am I missing? If Bama and ole miss beat state and we win out, we (Bama, state, ole miss and us--are tied, right? Then, I understood it comes to cross divisional rival SOS when selecting the west champ.
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I promise there will only be one SEC team in this thing. Right now, they have it perfectly representative. There's still some working-itself-out to do, but if they have ONE SEC team (Preferably the SEC Champion. After this week it will be the winner of MSU-Bama), ONE Pac-10 team (Preferably Oregon), ONE ACC team (undefeated two years running FSU), and ONE Big XII team (TCU or Baylor).
I thought this even early on. They didn't mind ranking a couple of west SEC teams early because they knew we would beat each other out of it.
I remember people saying on here that this increases our SEC chances because we would get two teams in. I disagree. Even with the argument that its good for espn, there is too much influence by the other conferences. This is all about giving the other big conferences a better chance to win.
Ohio state, Notre Dame and FSU have freaking cake walks compared to anyone in the west, yet, they are still struggling.
Until they double this thing to 8, we are at a distinct disadvantage in the west division of the Sec. For the first time evah, I'm for moving to the east.
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For the first time evah, I'm for moving to the east.
I can get behind that, do you need help with your bags?
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I thought this even early on. They didn't mind ranking a couple of west SEC teams early because they knew we would beat each other out of it.
I remember people saying on here that this increases our SEC chances because we would get two teams in. I disagree. Even with the argument that its good for espn, there is too much influence by the other conferences. This is all about giving the other big conferences a better chance to win.
So what would they have done if #3 ranked Auburn had beaten aTm and won out then along with MS State winning out and going to SEC Championship?
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Until they double this thing to 8, we are at a distinct disadvantage in the west division of the Sec. For the first time evah, I'm for moving to the east.
The SECCG puts the SEC itself at a disadvantage as well.
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MSU is in a precarious situation. If they lose to Bama, all they have after that are Vandy and Ole Miss. If MSU loses a very close game to Bama, maybe they only drop a few spots. Their remaining games alone don't carry enough weight to get them back in, so they are going to need some help. Bottom line, if MSU loses, I don't see them getting back in.
It doesn't matter if Bama wins by a point in two OTs. This late in the season, ranked where Bama is, if you beat the #1 team and win out the rest of the way you're in. If MSU wins by a point in two OTs, they're in as long as they win out. Like you said, if you're going to lose then lose early.
I just don't know that a close loss in ot by state to Bama drops them completely out. If it doesn't then what I'm asking is who drops out to make room for Bama?
I don't think there's any way to know until these things happen.
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So what would they have done if #3 ranked Auburn had beaten aTm and won out then along with MS State winning out and going to SEC Championship?
I think we would've gone. I just think they knew the chances were slim (the committe). Back to the SEC champ, nobody answered my question.
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I can get behind that, do you need help with your bags?
I've got a sack that you and your friend that liked your comment can help me with.
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What am I missing? If Bama and ole miss beat state and we win out, we (Bama, state, ole miss and us--are tied, right? Then, I understood it comes to cross divisional rival SOS when selecting the west champ.
:facepalm: Apparently you are missing the first few posts of this thread.
Here's the link to the tie breaker rules. If AU, UA, MSU and OM wind up in 4 way tie, AU wins because head to head against the other three, we have only one loss.
MSU would have lost to the two teams we beat (OM and AL) so they would have two losses in the four team head to head.
UA would also have two losses among the four (AU and OM).
OM would have one loss among the four (AU). So the head to head would be AU and OM, and AU holds the tie breaker over OM.
The TAMU loss doesn't hurt us. But we have to win out. That's a tall order.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_Championship_Game#Three_or_more-team_procedure (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_Championship_Game#Three_or_more-team_procedure)
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:facepalm: Apparently you are missing the first few posts of this thread.
This is good but next time see to it that you respond quicker and lose the condescending attitude with me. I don't have time to go looking back through all the horseshoot that others on here post. I'm a very important man. Remember that. Carry on.
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This is good but next time see to it that you respond quicker and lose the condescending attitude with me. I don't have time looking back through all the horseshit that others on here post. I'm a very important man. Remember that. Carry on.
If I take the time to make a post, then it is your obligation to read it. I am way more important than you. Know why? I have boobies, actual GIRL boobies, which are sorely lacking around here.
Bet I would get more votes than you in the "Who's More Important on the X?" contest. I am a limited commodity. You are interchangeable and expendable.
Remember that. Carry on.
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I trump you both. By a lot. Not only do I post with a deadly combination of spot-on information, opinion and unmatched wit that people shiver in moist anticipation of, I also have a killer set of man boobs.
Fight for second place if you must. It makes no difference.
Carry on.
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I trump you both. By a lot. Not only do I post with a deadly combination of spot-on information, opinion and unmatched wit that people shiver in moist anticipation of, I also have a killer set of man boobs.
Fight for second place if you must. It makes no difference.
Carry on.
Who are you again?
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I trump you both. By a lot. Not only do I post with a deadly combination of spot-on information, opinion and unmatched wit that people shiver in moist anticipation of, I also have a killer set of man boobs.
Fight for second place if you must. It makes no difference.
Carry on.
:tits:>moobs
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:tits:>moobs
I can make em' wobble baby, wobble baby, wobble baby.
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If I take the time to make a post, then it is your obligation to read it. I am way more important than you. Know why? I have boobies, actual GIRL boobies, which are sorely lacking around here.
Bet I would get more votes than you in the "Who's More Important on the X?" contest. I am a limited commodity. You are interchangeable and expendable.
Remember that. Carry on.
I don't disagree with you re the vote but I will have you know that I have a very nice set of boobs with very little hair on them.
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I can make em' wobble baby, wobble baby, wobble baby.
When you do jumping jacks I bet they bounce.
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When you do jumping jacks I bet they bounce.
I named them. Andre and Smith.
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I named them. Andre and Smith.
Fudge
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Fudge
Did I tell you that Marilyn Manson butt fucked a dude on SOA last night?
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Did I tell you that Marilyn Manson butt fucked a dude on SOA last night?
Something tells me its prolly not the first time, whether on TV or not.
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Something tells me its prolly not the first time, whether on TV or not.
Yep. Put him on all-fours and shoved it right up his butt. Butt fucked him, he did.
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Oh and MM did butt fuck Gavin Rossdale of Bush and Gwen Stefani fame. Look it up. It's on the interwebz.
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I remember the first time I got butt....I mean, that's some gross stuff right there.
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I don't disagree with you re the vote but I will have you know that I have a very nice set of boobs with very little hair on them.
Ha! That's why I wax my chest...I mean, that's disgusting.
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Ha! That's why I wax my chest...I mean, that's disgusting.
I can nibble on my own nipples.
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I will watch the bama/MSU game with intrigue with a tiny hope bama wins. This is only because what I would like to see happen for Auburn. Not to mention, if both Auburn and bama wins out, we will have ourselves another of the chizain IB with all cards on the table. I like it.