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Title: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on December 23, 2013, 11:15:10 AM
And pretty much always.

http://youtu.be/WySgNm8qH-I (http://youtu.be/WySgNm8qH-I)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 23, 2013, 03:15:08 PM
And pretty much always.

http://youtu.be/WySgNm8qH-I (http://youtu.be/WySgNm8qH-I)

Wasn't always that way. 

Used to be about heartbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-hBAwaH6CI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-hBAwaH6CI)

And feminism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dip54axBnIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dip54axBnIs)

And diversity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws4z10tY8H4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws4z10tY8H4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNlz5P2pbk8&list=PLFxiobMRGac_23qpb0S6JIlPlgTkVh3XI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNlz5P2pbk8&list=PLFxiobMRGac_23qpb0S6JIlPlgTkVh3XI)

And musicianship
http://youtu.be/XdUrg2Cqxdw (http://youtu.be/XdUrg2Cqxdw)

And influencing rock and roll, not the other way around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHJajD6T-M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHJajD6T-M)

Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on December 23, 2013, 03:15:42 PM
And why does YouTube not auto embed anymore?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on December 23, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
And why does YouTube not auto embed anymore?
It does, but you have to use the short link.

I agree, by the way. I like the kind of country you posted above. It's long gone though.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Saniflush on December 23, 2013, 04:02:14 PM
It does, but you have to use the short link.

I agree, by the way. I like the kind of country you posted above. It's long gone though.

"The new country acts have done to country music, what panty hose did to finger fucking. They've ruined it. They've God damn ruined it."
-Waylon Jennings
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on December 23, 2013, 04:28:46 PM
True true to what Au 2000 and others said. It used to be true. Real people singing bout real shit. Now it's all about just coming up with a gimmick and selling records. And doing whatever the producer says to do.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Lurking Tiger on December 23, 2013, 04:33:03 PM
Country music sucks. It has always sucked. It will always suck.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on December 23, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
Johnny Cash
Hank Williams, Sr.
David Allen Coe
Steve Earle
Jerry Reed

All awesome.

Bluegrass = awesome.

Basically anything on any country radio station since I've been alive = pure shit. Very few exceptions, especially in the modern era. Old Crow Medicine Show and Zac Brown Band being the only two exceptions that come to mind.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on December 23, 2013, 05:13:33 PM
Country music sucks. It has always sucked. It will always suck.

If were talking about talent and originality I surely hope you are kidding. I know taste is subjective but the country artists of old were über talented.

Almost all genres of music now can be traced back to country and blues. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on December 23, 2013, 07:48:59 PM
If were talking about talent and originality I surely hope you are kidding. I know taste is subjective but the country artists of old were über talented.

Almost all genres of music now can be traced back to country and blues.


In a world where "good hip hop still exists", I laugh at this thread!
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Jumbo on December 24, 2013, 03:27:20 AM
I only listen to country music and I don't give a fuck if y'all don't like it. #yolo
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Kaos on December 24, 2013, 11:34:21 AM
"Country" music was killed in 1989 when it was pussified by the fraud Garth Brooks.  Yes, I realize he looked to KISS for inspiration and stole much of his stage show from what they had done over the years, but that pudgy clown was about as country as Vladimir Putin. He wore a cowboy hat and boots but hadn't ever been within 100 yards of an actual cow. Kenny Rogers had set the stage for the demise, but Fart Brooks took it to the edge and pushed.

From there the dancing on the grave began:  Brooks and Dunn (homos), Clint Black (talentless hack), pie-faced Travis Tritt, Vegas lounge sleaze Marty Stuart, nutless Vince Gill, cocaine Randy, Trisha, perma smirk Reba, Toby Keith, Joe Mullet Diffie, Billy Ray Virus, pablum spewing Alabama, Kenny Gaynessney and the entire cabal of watered down wailers like them ruined the genre. 

I love bluegrass music.  I'm a huge fan of cajun/zydeco.  Clifton Chenier, Boozoo, Delafose? That's some awesome stuff. 

But then you hear hillbilly hacks like Alan Jackson co-opt that kind of awesome work into his reeking garbage and it just makes you angry.  I wanted to drown Jackson's skinny ass down yonder on the chattahoochee.

That's how we got to today.  Good acts with real talent can break through for a moment, but they're smothered by the crush of corporate assclowns who dress, sound and act the same. 

I agree with Tom Petty. Country music today is really bad 80s/90s rock with a violin tossed in.  My kids can listen to anything in this house from rap to classical to big band to rock to whatever.  But not country.  Country music isn't allowed in here. 

FWIW, that video looked like a douchebag convention. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on December 24, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
"Country" music was killed in 1989 when it was pussified by the fraud Garth Brooks.  Yes, I realize he looked to KISS for inspiration and stole much of his stage show from what they had done over the years, but that pudgy clown was about as country as Vladimir Putin. He wore a cowboy hat and boots but hadn't ever been within 100 yards of an actual cow. Kenny Rogers had set the stage for the demise, but Fart Brooks took it to the edge and pushed.

From there the dancing on the grave began:  Brooks and Dunn (homos), Clint Black (talentless hack), pie-faced Travis Tritt, Vegas lounge sleaze Marty Stuart, nutless Vince Gill, cocaine Randy, Trisha, perma smirk Reba, Toby Keith, Joe Mullet Diffie, Billy Ray Virus, pablum spewing Alabama, Kenny Gaynessney and the entire cabal of watered down wailers like them ruined the genre. 

I love bluegrass music.  I'm a huge fan of cajun/zydeco.  Clifton Chenier, Boozoo, Delafose? That's some awesome stuff. 

But then you hear hillbilly hacks like Alan Jackson co-opt that kind of awesome work into his reeking garbage and it just makes you angry.  I wanted to drown Jackson's skinny ass down yonder on the chattahoochee.

That's how we got to today.  Good acts with real talent can break through for a moment, but they're smothered by the crush of corporate assclowns who dress, sound and act the same. 

I agree with Tom Petty. Country music today is really bad 80s/90s rock with a violin tossed in.  My kids can listen to anything in this house from rap to classical to big band to rock to whatever.  But not country.  Country music isn't allowed in here. 

FWIW, that video looked like a douchebag convention.

George jones was the fucking man.

Same goes for hank, willie, merle and Johnny.

That is all.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: djsimp on December 24, 2013, 04:48:42 PM
George jones was the fucking man.

Same goes for hank, willie, merle and Johnny.

That is all.

I can dig it.

http://youtu.be/UkWGYydqjxM (http://youtu.be/UkWGYydqjxM)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Kaos on December 24, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
George jones was the fudgeing man.

Same goes for hank, willie, merle and Johnny.

That is all.

Garth Brooks killed them all
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Jumbo on December 25, 2013, 02:26:40 AM
Florida Georgia Line, Eric Church, Eli Young, Luke Bryan & Jason Aldean are the new face of country and I love it.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Kaos on December 25, 2013, 01:09:05 PM
Florida Georgia Line, Eric Church, Eli Young, Luke Bryan & Jason Aldean are the new face of country and I love it.

Big and Rich lite.

All suck.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on December 25, 2013, 01:49:53 PM
Big and Rich lite.

All suck.

Sorry.

Eric church is actually real anti establishment/nash-mopolitan sound. He's pretty genuine. I like him. Yokam and George jones were the same way.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 26, 2013, 09:37:48 AM
Florida Georgia Line, Eric Church, Eli Young, Luke Bryan & Jason Aldean are the new face of country and I love it.

I'm okay with a lot of the "country" music today.  Honestly, there's not much country about most of it.  Pop music with a steel guitar thrown in to put it in that category. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on December 26, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
I'm okay with a lot of the "country" music today.  Honestly, there's not much country about most of it.  Pop music with a steel guitar thrown in to put it in that category.
And an annoying Kermit-The-Frog-If-He-Were-A-Redneck voice.

The biggest example of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGoBQIhyFFM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGoBQIhyFFM#)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 26, 2013, 12:39:50 PM
My cousin was a damn fine country singer, imo. They just don't write them like this anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSg069lcMSg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSg069lcMSg)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on December 26, 2013, 11:08:04 PM
Country music going strong and playing over more listening devices EVER, but it sux?

I doubt I would enjoy much of the music on any if some of you guys' iPods.

I guess now we can discuss how iPods suck too!

It does not matter how many of you do not appreciate country music, you weren't really a fan before, so no loss not having you now.

But please rant on!
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Kaos on December 27, 2013, 02:10:38 AM
Country music going strong and playing over more listening devices EVER, but it sux?

What's Happenin' can now be seen on more devices than EVAR!!  That makes it an awesome show, one of the greats. 

Pffffffttttt.  Availability is no measure of quality.

Here's a fantastic article that encapsulates the entire range of argument here.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/22/the-decline-of-country-music/ (http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/22/the-decline-of-country-music/)

Quote
The love of country music has become a signifier ever bit as much as hardcore rap. Love of country music says to the world that you are authentic, that you don’t like learned people, and that your attitude imbues you with a special kind of virtue. A couple of weeks ago, I was at a store in Ocean City, Maryland, when the clerk, a woman in her 30s, announced to me that she was going to a country music concert that night. “Who’s playing?” I asked. “Oh, I don’t care,” she said. “I’m going to hear my kind of music — I’m a country girl!” People often declare that they are “country” people, but it’s difficult to imagine someone saying, “I’m going to see a band tonight, and I don’t know who it is. But I’m going because I’m a rock-and-roller!” Rock and roll fans pledge allegiance to certain bands, which is easy because the music is so diverse. Country music has become one song — beers, guns, women in cut-off jeans, granddaddy’s advice, USA, and if you don’t like it, shove it, Yankee. The music valorizes ignorance, crude behavior, poor hygiene and illiteracy.

Defenders of country will pounce on that characterization, claiming that country is the music of “real Americans” and tells “real stories” about people living “real lives.” In fact, modern country music is the phoniest music in the world.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: jmar on December 27, 2013, 08:36:11 AM
I liked the country greats but very little if any of the stuff out now.

I listen to most all genres but I don't feel any need to invest much beyond an artist's initial couple of albums that get them to the point of no return... after that I've all but heard enough to know if their material has run its course save for the way it's marketed and repackaged as something different.
It's all been done as Van Morrison states difinitively when interviewed. Today people flock to his concerts hoping to recoup some of their past and the drunken bastard grunts out sounds to a mixture of country, jazz, R&B and soul. And I'm fairly sure the fucker despises performing as much as the public that buys his music. Hard to argue his talent and longevity in the music business though.

I did like the western sound of The White Buffalo that was recently posted, Mumford and Sons too and I found myself amused with Big Bad Voodoo Doll's Christmas tunes. Mostly I just knock around looking for something a little different and have no real favorites.     
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: DnATL on December 27, 2013, 08:59:33 AM
What's Happenin' can now be seen on more devices than EVAR!!  That makes it an awesome show, one of the greats. 
it's always had re-runs
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 27, 2013, 09:48:46 AM
I for one love country music, but the shit I hear on the radio now days is not country music.  It should be labeled Southern Pop.   It's nothing more than pop with some fiddle or steel guitar and instead of talking about going out in the clubs taking shots and doing things to a females body, you get some dude singing about having a bottle of shine up under the seat of his big black jacked up truck, rollin' on 35's. 

Some of the dumbest lyrics that I have ever heard in recent years have came from Southern Pop.  Real country music is hard to come by and not mainstream anymore. 

Decide which ones sounds more like Pop than Country:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gX1EP6mG-E# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gX1EP6mG-E#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crCqWK3SmRo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crCqWK3SmRo#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3JatEPwbrM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3JatEPwbrM#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLqoB3v_wI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLqoB3v_wI#ws)

Not that I hate on all Southern Pop, but it's pretty obvious to me that it's not "country" music. 


Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 27, 2013, 09:50:41 AM
Luke Bryan makes my wife moist.  I like Luke Bryan.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 27, 2013, 10:10:35 AM
Luke Bryan makes my wife moist.  I like Luke Bryan.

Mrs.AUT1 has told me that she thought him to be cute, but his songs suck.  This coming from the woman who loves her some Pop music.  She has been off that genre of music for a few years now and I think "If I could have a beer with Jesus" pushed her off the edge.  Refuses to turn it on the radio now days.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on December 27, 2013, 10:20:49 AM
I for one love country music, but the shit I hear on the radio now days is not country music.  It should be labeled Southern Pop.   It's nothing more than pop with some fiddle or steel guitar and instead of talking about going out in the clubs taking shots and doing things to a females body, you get some dude singing about having a bottle of shine up under the seat of his big black jacked up truck, rollin' on 35's. 

Some of the dumbest lyrics that I have ever heard in recent years have came from Southern Pop.  Real country music is hard to come by and not mainstream anymore. 

Decide which ones sounds more like Pop than Country:


Not that I hate on all Southern Pop, but it's pretty obvious to me that it's not "country" music.
This kid gets it. We can share an iPod. Except I do hate "Southern Pop".

Actually, when they go full tard and have like a guest rapper or something, completely devoid of fucks about making it resemble country at all, those are strangely tolerable to me. That Cruise song, on paper seems like it should annoy the ever loving fuck out of me. Strangely, I don't really hate it. Same with that Jason Aldean song featuring Ludacris. It's a long long way from Johnny Cash or The Foggy Mountain Boys or anything in between, but for some reason I tolerate it for the disposable mindless pop that it is. At least it's different and somewhat original.

The other shit that is today's cookie-cutter country-song-by-numbers that is 99.9% of the shit that gets played on any country station on the other hand? No use for it whatsoever.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: djsimp on December 27, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
To be honest, I have never really like Country music at all, ever.............until I started getting older. I have always like Classic Rock and that sorts. Now, however, I have listened to some but only that is mostly as old as I am. The old stuff is good stuff.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 27, 2013, 11:17:42 AM
To be honest, I have never really like Country music at all, ever.............until I started getting older. I have always like Classic Rock and that sorts. Now, however, I have listened to some but only that is mostly as old as I am. The old stuff is good stuff.
You is right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBtjoRpmOjc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBtjoRpmOjc)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 27, 2013, 11:22:48 AM
Country is now the new "pop" music.  Not my first love in music but I'm fine with it now.  Probably because I hated what many of you describe as "real country music."  Johnny Cash, George Jones, Willie and Waylon and the Boys, Conway Twitty and the Twitty Birds, Haggard etc.  Couldn't stand any of it.   
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 27, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
Country is now the new "pop" music.  Not my first love in music but I'm fine with it now.  Probably because I hated what many of you describe as "real country music."  Johnny Cash, George Jones, Willie and Waylon and the Boys, Conway Twitty and the Twitty Birds, Haggard etc.  Couldn't stand any of it.
All of the ones that you mentioned, among many others, hated your fucking guts too.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 27, 2013, 11:35:30 AM
All of the ones that you mentioned, among many others, hated your fucking guts too.

They stopped loving me today.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 27, 2013, 11:56:10 AM
Country is now the new "pop" music.  Not my first love in music but I'm fine with it now.  Probably because I hated what many of you describe as "real country music."  Johnny Cash, George Jones, Willie and Waylon and the Boys, Conway Twitty and the Twitty Birds, Haggard etc.  Couldn't stand any of it.

Take your dirty, pinko commie, America hating ass to China where you belong!
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 27, 2013, 12:13:17 PM
Take your dirty, pinko commie, America hating ass to China where you belong!

http://youtu.be/CdxdKt2HXK4 (http://youtu.be/CdxdKt2HXK4)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on December 27, 2013, 12:17:16 PM
http://youtu.be/CdxdKt2HXK4 (http://youtu.be/CdxdKt2HXK4)
To be fair, he's from SOUTH Korea.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 27, 2013, 12:51:21 PM
To be fair, he's from SOUTH Korea.
As long as he likes Waylon and Willie and Haggard and Jones, he's o.k. I think even Kim Jong-un likes George Jones so he's more American than some of you communist pinkos that don't like country or western.

Personally, I'm a Charley Pride man but I like country. It's right up there with R&B.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 27, 2013, 01:02:35 PM
As long as he likes Waylon and Willie and Haggard and Jones, he's o.k. I think even Kim Jong-un likes George Jones so he's more American than some of you communist pinkos that don't like country or western.

Personally, I'm a Charley Pride man but I like country. It's right up there with R&B.

You know, Darius Rucker is making it pretty big in country right now too.  Have you heard any of his stuff?  Seen any of his videos?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 27, 2013, 01:10:46 PM
You know, Darius Rucker is making it pretty big in country right now too.  Have you heard any of his stuff?  Seen any of his videos?
Absolutely. Big fan or the bro. He's got pipes--and not of the crack variety because I know where you were about to go with that you racist pinko commie.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 27, 2013, 01:20:37 PM
Absolutely. Big fan or the bro. He's got pipes--and not of the crack variety because I know where you were about to go with that you racist pinko commie.

Waylon loved the black cock.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: chityeah on January 21, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXxYz2-Utc#t=11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXxYz2-Utc#t=11) 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on January 22, 2014, 12:13:50 AM
Country music is still going strong. Find something else to bitch about. It's 2014 now!

So don't bother me.

I'm chilling on a dirt road. Laid back, swerving like I'm George Jones...bitches!
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on January 22, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
Country music is still going strong. Find something else to bitch about. It's 2014 now!

So don't bother me.

I'm chilling on a dirt road. Laid back, swerving like I'm George Jones...bitches!

I can tell you that George Jones would be appalled at that stupid assed song.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on January 22, 2014, 10:17:07 AM
I can tell you that George Jones would be appalled at that stupid assed song.
But he's laid back chillin like him.

You know, cause he's dead.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on January 22, 2014, 10:27:48 AM
I can tell you that George Jones would be appalled at that stupid assed song.

I can tell you that he wouldn't!
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on January 22, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
I can tell you that he wouldn't!
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Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on January 22, 2014, 10:50:08 AM
I can tell you that he wouldn't!

Guess again...

Quote
“How can you call that music? Now, I love music, too. I love all kinds. I really do. I’ve got Brook Benton. I like his singing. Ray Charles. I’ve got an open mind. But now, you can’t call rap, talking stuff like that, country music. No, no, no, you’ve got to have another name for that.” - George Jones 2010

Yes he is referring to songs like the one you just quoted.

Plus Jason Aldean wears all that UGA gear so screw him anyway.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on January 22, 2014, 10:54:06 AM
Guess again...

Yes he is referring to songs like the one you just quoted.

So he hated David Allan Coe too?

BTW. That JA song was on George's ipod when he died. Look it up!

http://theboot.com/jason-aldean-and-george-jones-bond-over-anthem/ (http://theboot.com/jason-aldean-and-george-jones-bond-over-anthem/)


Context is your friend:

Quote
Still, his contemporaries haven't always stuck to traditional country, either. Fellow Hall of Fame member Johnny Cash was met with critical acclaim a few years ago by covering the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt." Asked whether he'd ever branch out to a completely different genre of music, like heavy metal or rap, Jones laughed and said: "Rap? That's tacky."
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on January 22, 2014, 10:55:22 AM
So he hated David Allan Coe too?

BTW. That JA song was on George's ipod when he died. Look it up!

Hey I heard Aldean was 10 feet tall and shot flames out his arse!! Look it up.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Godfather on January 22, 2014, 12:43:32 PM
Country music sucks. It has always sucked. It will always suck.

You apparently haven't listened to David Allen Coe underground, ask Jarhead and Buzz.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on January 22, 2014, 01:17:28 PM
You apparently haven't listened to David Allen Coe underground, ask Jarhead and Buzz.
I prefer Nothing Sacred by David Allan Coe.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 22, 2014, 02:09:53 PM
I prefer Nothing Sacred by David Allan Coe.
Do you like cum stains on your pillow?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Godfather on January 22, 2014, 02:17:23 PM
Do you like cum stains on your pillow?
This is for you Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: chityeah on January 27, 2014, 11:54:39 AM
This young lady gets it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TtSamAaRvg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TtSamAaRvg)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 27, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
This young lady gets it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TtSamAaRvg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TtSamAaRvg)

She sings the truth. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on January 27, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
She sings the truth.
Good melody. Nice little chord progression. She's got a good voice. Pretty good song overall.

But she says:
When a grown man never sings about his wife/ Just goin out and Honkey Tonkin' Friday nights/ Then I hear their language/ I turn the dial/ And I just have to wonder when did class go out of style?

THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM! WE NEED MORE OF THAT!

(http://radioicast.com/web_images/171-1015144156-johnny-cash-finger.jpg)
(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/willie_nelson.jpg)
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FFU5KG9Hu8g/TflcWzhV6lI/AAAAAAAABvk/wd8R0QbkdvY/s320/waylon1.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 27, 2014, 01:57:32 PM
Good melody. Nice little chord progression. She's got a good voice. Pretty good song overall.

But she says:
When a grown man never sings about his wife/ Just and Honkey Tonkin' Friday nights/ Then I hear their language/ I turn the dial/ And I just have to wonder when did class go out of style?

THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM! WE NEED MORE OF THAT!

(http://radioicast.com/web_images/171-1015144156-johnny-cash-finger.jpg)
(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/willie_nelson.jpg)
(http://www.johngilmore.com/Celebrities/images/hankwilliams_jail.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FFU5KG9Hu8g/TflcWzhV6lI/AAAAAAAABvk/wd8R0QbkdvY/s320/waylon1.jpg)

I do agree with her line

"Who told those white guys they could rap?
And why does music row think we want that crap?"

I'm talking to these guys...

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Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 27, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
We definitely need more of what Chizad posted above and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqm01Z9v0f8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqm01Z9v0f8#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2GGci7VWRQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2GGci7VWRQ#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIqGUTn9AEU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIqGUTn9AEU#)

What a damn shame that Yoakam has won a Grammy, several AMA's and not once has he won a CMA despite having about 10 or 12 of his albums making the top 10 charts with several going to number 1.  Nope, now we get this that we need less of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crCqWK3SmRo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crCqWK3SmRo#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXAgv665J14#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXAgv665J14#ws)

Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 27, 2014, 03:11:12 PM
Good melody. Nice little chord progression. She's got a good voice. Pretty good song overall.

But she says:
When a grown man never sings about his wife/ Just goin out and Honkey Tonkin' Friday nights/ Then I hear their language/ I turn the dial/ And I just have to wonder when did class go out of style?

THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM! WE NEED MORE OF THAT!

(http://radioicast.com/web_images/171-1015144156-johnny-cash-finger.jpg)
(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/willie_nelson.jpg)
(http://www.johngilmore.com/Celebrities/images/hankwilliams_jail.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FFU5KG9Hu8g/TflcWzhV6lI/AAAAAAAABvk/wd8R0QbkdvY/s320/waylon1.jpg)
Yeah, o.k. And all of the examples you use are of singers who "just happen" to be white. Another example that can step to the back of the line of many.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 27, 2014, 03:26:58 PM
Well the boys round here...drinkin that ice cold beer....talkin bout girls....talkin bout trucks....runnin them red dirt roads out kickin up dust.  $$$$   :fu:
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 27, 2014, 03:57:34 PM
This documentary encompasses what real country music is about. The inclusive truth. TL,DW but the 1st few minutes and you catch the drift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-QS3MTxfGw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-QS3MTxfGw#)
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on January 27, 2014, 04:06:42 PM
Don't know about Percy, but this guy's ok.

http://youtu.be/nJQdR0ciwYg (http://youtu.be/nJQdR0ciwYg)

Darius Rucker was better as Hootie.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUChizad on January 27, 2014, 04:10:50 PM
Just watched the Percy Jenkins video. Lulz.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on January 27, 2014, 04:11:13 PM
Music has always evolved. Country music is as country to the youth of today as it was to the youth of yesterday. Even living in the sticks today, kids have access to all kinds of modern inventions, just like some of you city folk.

So its not like all of the songs have to be about living on the farm sexing up the chickens. Youth of today like a variety of music and they like their country music to reflect that.

I personally like the diversity of today's country.

I've heard some of the shit a few of you listen to, so don't lecture anybody else on taste.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 27, 2014, 04:22:36 PM
Music has always evolved. Country music is as country to the youth of today as it was to the youth of yesterday. Even living in the sticks today, kids have access to all kinds of modern inventions, just like some of you city folk.

So its not like all of the songs have to be about living on the farm sexing up the chickens. Youth of today like a variety of music and they like their country music to reflect that.

I personally like the diversity of today's country.

I've heard some of the shoot a few of you listen to, so don't lecture anybody else on taste.

If you read the article that goes with the original video you'll see that the guy's point was that country today doesn't have any diversity to it.  That's why he made the video.  Every song is about picking up your girl in your truck and riding to a party, that's it.  It's monotonous. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 27, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
Every song is about picking up your girl in your truck and riding to a party, that's it.
Is there really anything more to life?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on January 27, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
Is there really anything more to life?

IKR. "Get in the truck bitch" was my best pickup line....
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 27, 2014, 05:03:54 PM
Don't know about Percy, but this guy's ok.

http://youtu.be/nJQdR0ciwYg (http://youtu.be/nJQdR0ciwYg)

Darius Rucker was better as Hootie.

Agree.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 27, 2014, 05:07:43 PM
Music has always evolved. Country music is as country to the youth of today as it was to the youth of yesterday. Even living in the sticks today, kids have access to all kinds of modern inventions, just like some of you city folk.

So its not like all of the songs have to be about living on the farm sexing up the chickens. Youth of today like a variety of music and they like their country music to reflect that.

I personally like the diversity of today's country.

I've heard some of the shit a few of you listen to, so don't lecture anybody else on taste.

I have never heard any of it.  Now I have heard southern pop and I don't like most of it, but country music today? 

I would say that 3 Pears by Yoakam last year, but apparently he's not even "country" anymore as it is listed as Americana.  Yoakam has written more country music than most of today's artist can only dream of.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2014, 10:29:38 AM
If you read the article that goes with the original video you'll see that the guy's point was that country today doesn't have any diversity to it.  That's why he made the video.  Every song is about picking up your girl in your truck and riding to a party, that's it.  It's monotonous.

This^^^ all of it. It's fake as hell and the main objective is to sell sell sell records. That's the big picture here. It isn't to make good or "real folks" music. It's to make something that will sell to 18-25 year olds. That's the antithesis of what country music was originally founded on and what it's supposed to be.  Real people making real music, talking about real shit. That hardly what it is now.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 23, 2014, 04:18:58 PM
Heard this today while at lunch......really?  Country?  Seriously?  Sounds like Snaggs dream song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwgCBRj3dn4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwgCBRj3dn4#ws)

Also heard this in a co-workers car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2qlMV-seQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2qlMV-seQ#ws)

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 24, 2014, 09:04:30 AM
Speaking of bad country music and just the music business in general. 

I'm friends with one of the guys that puts together the Alabaster Cityfest.  He said that to get Rodney Atkins as their headliner, they had to pay for 18 holes of golf and an early dinner at Hot & Hot Fish Club.  He arrived to the stage about 45 minutes before the performance and left shortly after he was finished, and they cut him a $35k check.  That was just to him.  They then had to pay the band and others involved in the Rodney Atkins show.

In another tale of ridiculous music business paychecks, a few years ago my friend's band backed up Taylor Hicks at a rich guy's party at The Club in Birmingham.  Hicks who is from Birmingham was in town already and hanging out at someone's house.  He got dressed and ready at the person's house, showed up at The Club 15 minutes before performing, sang for 45 minutes, and they cut him a $20k check. 

Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2014, 09:18:10 AM
Speaking of bad country music and just the music business in general. 

Good statement, because in country's defense, it aint just country music that is bad. Thre is much much worse shit being sold. That's the sad part.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: CCTAU on June 24, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
There is good stuff out there. And then there are the party songs. Used to be you only got a few of those, "All my rowdy friends are coming over tonight". But now it seems everybody wants the party song. And the music business is powerful. You do what they say or you end up like Rhett Akins...
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2014, 09:44:33 AM
There is good stuff out there. And then there are the party songs. Used to be you only got a few of those, "All my rowdy friends are coming over tonight". But now it seems everybody wants the party song. And the music business is powerful. You do what they say or you end up like Rhett Akins...

Because it SELLS
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 24, 2014, 10:07:08 AM
There is good stuff out there. And then there are the party songs. Used to be you only got a few of those, "All my rowdy friends are coming over tonight". But now it seems everybody wants the party song. And the music business is powerful. You do what they say or you end up like Rhett Akins...

Yep.

There's a local music minister who was working at a fairly large church in the B'ham area.  He could sing well, could write his own songs, and could adequately manage his worship team.  His ticket to fame?  His looks.  Guy was in his late 20s and was a Mr. GQ. 

He was approached by a major Christian record label who pitched the idea that he could become the next Michael W Smith.  With Smith getting older, they were looking for the next Christian artist that could fill his niche.

Naturally, he was stoked.  They must have really liked the way he sang, the songs he wrote, and the manner he conducted his band.  They must have wanted to pay for advertisements for him and get his name out there. 

Then he met with them at their company office where they told him what he would be doing.  None of his songs would be used.  They had songwriters that would write his songs for him.  He would be required to participate in an exercise regime with a professional fitness trainer and his diet would be monitored.  Gaining weight or refusing to take care of his physical features would violate the stipulations of the contract.  He would be given studio musicians that he most likely would never meet and various musicians would rotate with him as he toured. 

He would write books with the help of a featured author or a ghost writer.  He would be given talking points at various times to construct his character.  He would have zero say in where and when he performed as a manager would conduct all of the business for him. 

But he would be paid well.  Millions most likely.  They would promote him and if his brand took off, he would join the ranks of megastars Chris Tomlin and David Crowder.  He could play to thousands of people, be featured on numerous albums, and experience the lavish lifestyle of the rich and famous. 

And he turned them down.  I don't know how he did it.  I would have at least played the role for five years, but he said no thanks.  Didn't want to accept that his songs weren't good enough, that his musicianship wasn't valued, and that money and fame was the end goal.  Didn't want to sell his soul I guess. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: dallaswareagle on June 24, 2014, 10:51:24 AM
Speaking of bad country music and just the music business in general. 

I'm friends with one of the guys that puts together the Alabaster Cityfest.  He said that to get Rodney Atkins as their headliner, they had to pay for 18 holes of golf and an early dinner at Hot & Hot Fish Club.  He arrived to the stage about 45 minutes before the performance and left shortly after he was finished, and they cut him a $35k check.  That was just to him.  They then had to pay the band and others involved in the Rodney Atkins show.

In another tale of ridiculous music business paychecks, a few years ago my friend's band backed up Taylor Hicks at a rich guy's party at The Club in Birmingham.  Hicks who is from Birmingham was in town already and hanging out at someone's house.  He got dressed and ready at the person's house, showed up at The Club 15 minutes before performing, sang for 45 minutes, and they cut him a $20k check.

Never known him to do that.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 24, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
Never known him to do that.

Sing or play for 45 minutes? 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2014, 11:55:16 AM
Sing or play for 45 minutes?

He can sing?

I thought he was just a fancy looking human jukebox that spit out cheesy covers of oldies.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: djsimp on June 25, 2014, 09:04:30 AM
I heard this song the other day for the first time from the movie Frozen. You guys heard it?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: jmar on June 25, 2014, 09:50:25 AM
I heard this song the other day for the first time from the movie Frozen. You guys heard it?
I had the volume dialed back. What's the name of the tune?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: wesfau2 on June 29, 2014, 04:35:38 PM
megastars Chris Tomlin and David Crowder. 

We apparently have differing definitions of "megastar".  Never heard of these two.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on June 29, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
We apparently have differing definitions of "megastar".  Never heard of these two.
Pretty sure Christian Music isn't on your list of favorite genres. Ammarite?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: wesfau2 on June 29, 2014, 08:37:05 PM
Pretty sure Christian Music isn't on your list of favorite genres. Ammarite?

True, but a "megastar" transcends his or her genre or industry.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 29, 2014, 09:26:08 PM
True, but a "megastar" transcends his or her genre or industry.

I'd say a megastar is one that is widely known by everyone in that particular genre or industry.  Sort of like how not all rock fans like Metallica but all rock fans have heard of Metallica. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: wesfau2 on June 30, 2014, 08:40:29 AM
I'd say a megastar is one that is widely known by everyone in that particular genre or industry.  Sort of like how not all rock fans like Metallica but all rock fans have heard of Metallica.

Well, now we have differing opinions on "industry", I suppose.  Because the music biz is the music biz whether you're rocking DC Talk or Cannibal Corpse.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on June 30, 2014, 09:46:37 AM
The man's heard of DC Talk...right when you think you know someone.

Although I do somewhat agree. In that genre (which I don't really listen to either), the names that come to mind instantly that most would know (past or present) are: Mikey W Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, Amy Grant. I think even people outside of the genre know those names.

Not sure how I knew who Tomlin was but I did...barely. I just knew he was a Christian artist. I will trust THS's analysis that he is good in his genre but I don't really know much about him.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 30, 2014, 11:22:29 AM
"Country" music had to evolve or die out.  You can make the same case with Nascar.  The good ole country boy drivers and their toothless fans just weren't selling to corporate Murrica anymore so they started changing the face of the sport by marketing the younger, good looking drivers that sponsors wanted pimping their products.  Include Danica Patrick in that mix as well.

Obviously, country music bears little resemblance to what it was even 25 years ago. The industry did the right thing because whether anyone on this board likes what it's become or not, country music is at an all time high in popularity and the money involved is astronomical.  I'm not a big fan of country music but then, I never really was.  But I do recognize that there are some extremely talented artists in the business today and even more importantly for what country music has become, extremely talented performers.

Country music is basically pop, top 40 type tunes with a fiddle or steel guitar thrown in to keep it in that genre.  It is what it is and it's not going back to the days of Johnny Cash, Willie and Waylon and the boys.   And speaking of, I'm trying to figure out just exactly what artists some of you are pining for when you refer to how much you miss "real" country music.  Conway Twitty & the Twitty Birds?  George Jones? He stopped loving her today is definitely in my top 5.  I know most of you, like me, have the whole collection of Statler Brothers 8-Tracks.  Tammy Whynot?  Willie Nelson?  Reba?  Or do you miss watching those Mandrell Sisters on stage?       
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 30, 2014, 12:55:50 PM
"Country" music had to evolve or die out.  You can make the same case with Nascar.  The good ole country boy drivers and their toothless fans just weren't selling to corporate Murrica anymore so they started changing the face of the sport by marketing the younger, good looking drivers that sponsors wanted pimping their products.  Include Danica Patrick in that mix as well.

Obviously, country music bears little resemblance to what it was even 25 years ago. The industry did the right thing because whether anyone on this board likes what it's become or not, country music is at an all time high in popularity and the money involved is astronomical.  I'm not a big fan of country music but then, I never really was.  But I do recognize that there are some extremely talented artists in the business today and even more importantly for what country music has become, extremely talented performers.

Country music is basically pop, top 40 type tunes with a fiddle or steel guitar thrown in to keep it in that genre.  It is what it is and it's not going back to the days of Johnny Cash, Willie and Waylon and the boys.   And speaking of, I'm trying to figure out just exactly what artists some of you are pining for when you refer to how much you miss "real" country music.  Conway Twitty & the Twitty Birds?  George Jones? He stopped loving her today is definitely in my top 5.  I know most of you, like me, have the whole collection of Statler Brothers 8-Tracks.  Tammy Whynot?  Willie Nelson?  Reba?  Or do you miss watching those Mandrell Sisters on stage?     

I hate that big business rules (ruins) this country sometimes.  Standard of living perks?  Yeah that's great and all.  But sometimes I wonder how much we've sacrificed for handheld computers and air conditioning and multiple grocery stores to choose from.

The History Channel had to become The Pawn Shop channel.  It would have died out.

TLC had to become the Sex Sent Me to the ER and Fruit Fetishes channel.  It would have died out.

The Food Network had to start throwing chain saws at their chefs while they make a meal out of ingredients like bottarga, cow skull, jellied ham and fish testicles.  It would have died out.

A&E had to show Duck Dynasty 24/7.  Would have died out.

Metallica had to cut their hair.  Would have died out.

Clothing stores have to sell cheap threads stitched together in Chinese sweat shops.  Would have died out. 

Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on June 30, 2014, 01:50:17 PM
I hate that big business rules (ruins) this country sometimes.  Standard of living perks?  Yeah that's great and all.  But sometimes I wonder how much we've sacrificed for handheld computers and air conditioning and multiple grocery stores to choose from.

The History Channel had to become The Pawn Shop channel.  It would have died out.

TLC had to become the Sex Sent Me to the ER and Fruit Fetishes channel.  It would have died out.

The Food Network had to start throwing chain saws at their chefs while they make a meal out of ingredients like bottarga, cow skull, jellied ham and fish testicles.  It would have died out.

A&E had to show Duck Dynasty 24/7.  Would have died out.

Metallica had to cut their hair.  Would have died out.

Clothing stores have to sell cheap threads stitched together in Chinese sweat shops.  Would have died out.

I don't agree with the "it would have died out premise". Define "died out".

As long as people are here who still would have liked it, appreciated, played it, wrote songs...would it have died out really? Maybe not sold millions and millions...but died out? Nah, I don't think so. Which goes back to it all being about the money. I don't think music in its true form should ever be about the money first and foremost. If that had been the rule back in the 40's, 50's or 60's - we would have never seen Elvis, The Beatles, Chuck Berry, Eric Clapton, Hank, Frank Sinatra, Patsy Cline, Bech Boys, Led Zeppelin, Motown, The Stones or a number of other groups. These acts didn't get into the business for the sole purpose of getting rich. They loved the music and the purity of it. As a form of art and expression of real things in real life - no matter the genre.

Now, music is crap, based off shock value, and 'smoke n mirrors' because society has been dumbed down enough to where this is what they want. They don't want intrinsic value and purity and real things. They want to be entertained with filth and low rate entertainment garbage like Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 30, 2014, 01:57:51 PM
I don't agree with the "it would have died out premise". Define "died out".


I don't either. 

Died out now means "not #1 on the pop charts making millions and millions and millions for executives."  But that's how many businesses in the entertainment industry operate. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 30, 2014, 05:06:26 PM
I don't agree with the "it would have died out premise". Define "died out".

As long as people are here who still would have liked it, appreciated, played it, wrote songs...would it have died out really? Maybe not sold millions and millions...but died out? Nah, I don't think so. Which goes back to it all being about the money. I don't think music in its true form should ever be about the money first and foremost. If that had been the rule back in the 40's, 50's or 60's - we would have never seen Elvis, The Beatles, Chuck Berry, Eric Clapton, Hank, Frank Sinatra, Patsy Cline, Bech Boys, Led Zeppelin, Motown, The Stones or a number of other groups. These acts didn't get into the business for the sole purpose of getting rich. They loved the music and the purity of it. As a form of art and expression of real things in real life - no matter the genre.

Now, music is crap, based off shock value, and 'smoke n mirrors' because society has been dumbed down enough to where this is what they want. They don't want intrinsic value and purity and real things. They want to be entertained with filth and low rate entertainment garbage like Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus.

I know you get tired of my Isbell suck fest but he said it best in an interview here lately.  All he wanted out of music was to be able to pay a mortagage, keep the electricity on and have fun doing it.  Cares nothing for riches and popularity.  Actually said that is the kiss of death and when you start selling out who you are. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 30, 2014, 05:15:17 PM
I know you get tired of my Isbell suck fest but he said it best in an interview here lately.  All he wanted out of music was to be able to pay a mortagage, keep the electricity on and have fun doing it.  Cares nothing for riches and popularity.  Actually said that is the kiss of death and when you start selling out who you are.

He should stop charging for his concerts then and just take up a love offering.   :thumsup:
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 30, 2014, 05:33:07 PM
  And speaking of, I'm trying to figure out just exactly what artists some of you are pining for when you refer to how much you miss "real" country music.  Conway Twitty & the Twitty Birds?  George Jones? He stopped loving her today is definitely in my top 5.  I know most of you, like me, have the whole collection of Statler Brothers 8-Tracks.  Tammy Whynot?  Willie Nelson?  Reba?  Or do you miss watching those Mandrell Sisters on stage?     

I want to see more of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIqGUTn9AEU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIqGUTn9AEU#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQZmX5fbqfs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQZmX5fbqfs#)

You know a song that isn't about a jacked up truck with real good, feel good alcohol under the front seat of my Chevy so I can take my girl down to the riverbank.  Something with a little originality.  Something that I would call traditional country and not southern pop....

or if you are going to play something that sounds like today's country music, try these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgN1pwmuRyU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgN1pwmuRyU#ws)

or something that doesn't sound like what I hear on the local "country station"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFY34mUMmtY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFY34mUMmtY#ws)

A love song without all of the above mentioned.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 30, 2014, 05:35:52 PM
He should stop charging for his concerts then and just take up a love offering.   :thumsup:

He never said that he didn't want to make money.  I would go ahead and say that a $15 cover for a small venue such as a 300 person capacity at the Crossroads isn't exactly raking it in and could easily be called a love offering.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 30, 2014, 05:48:39 PM
I agree with you AU1. I can't believe some of these country artists haven't said enough is enough.  I refuse to sing another song about loading up a girl in the pick up, 5th of Jack, ride down that old dirt road to.....  Sheezus, it's in the lyrics of 80% of the songs by the male artists.  But I guess as long as people keep eating it up and paying $kwazillions for it...
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 30, 2014, 06:04:50 PM
I agree with you AU1. I can't believe some of these country artists haven't said enough is enough.  I refuse to sing another song about loading up a girl in the pick up, 5th of Jack, ride down that old dirt road to.....  Sheezus, it's in the lyrics of 80% of the songs by the male artists.  But I guess as long as people keep eating it up and paying $kwazillions for it...

And there is the problem.  The CCTAU's and half the women I know will continue to do so and it will continue to be produced and sold.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: bgreene on June 30, 2014, 06:16:37 PM
I blame Obama
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Kaos on June 30, 2014, 08:13:54 PM
"Country" music had to evolve or die out.  You can make the same case with Nascar.  The good ole country boy drivers and their toothless fans just weren't selling to corporate Murrica anymore so they started changing the face of the sport by marketing the younger, good looking drivers that sponsors wanted pimping their products.  Include Danica Patrick in that mix as well.

Obviously, country music bears little resemblance to what it was even 25 years ago. The industry did the right thing because whether anyone on this board likes what it's become or not, country music is at an all time high in popularity and the money involved is astronomical.  I'm not a big fan of country music but then, I never really was.  But I do recognize that there are some extremely talented artists in the business today and even more importantly for what country music has become, extremely talented performers.

Country music is basically pop, top 40 type tunes with a fiddle or steel guitar thrown in to keep it in that genre.  It is what it is and it's not going back to the days of Johnny Cash, Willie and Waylon and the boys.   And speaking of, I'm trying to figure out just exactly what artists some of you are pining for when you refer to how much you miss "real" country music.  Conway Twitty & the Twitty Birds?  George Jones? He stopped loving her today is definitely in my top 5.  I know most of you, like me, have the whole collection of Statler Brothers 8-Tracks.  Tammy Whynot?  Willie Nelson?  Reba?  Or do you miss watching those Mandrell Sisters on stage?     

Don't agree with this.  I realize there are claims that country has displaced Top 40 but truth be told I don't know a damn soul who listens to country music.  I can't think of a single person me or my kids know who ever listens to it at all.

Taylor Swift, yeah, but that's not country no matter what she says.  It's Donny Osmond plab. 

Beyond that, the glut of cookie cutter cowboys who all look, sound and whine alike will drive it into the ground in short order. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Kaos on June 30, 2014, 08:16:19 PM
I hate that big business rules (ruins) this country sometimes.  Standard of living perks?  Yeah that's great and all.  But sometimes I wonder how much we've sacrificed for handheld computers and air conditioning and multiple grocery stores to choose from.

The History Channel had to become The Pawn Shop channel.  It would have died out.

TLC had to become the Sex Sent Me to the ER and Fruit Fetishes channel.  It would have died out.

The Food Network had to start throwing chain saws at their chefs while they make a meal out of ingredients like bottarga, cow skull, jellied ham and fish testicles.  It would have died out.

A&E had to show Duck Dynasty 24/7.  Would have died out.

Metallica had to cut their hair.  Would have died out.

Clothing stores have to sell cheap threads stitched together in Chinese sweat shops.  Would have died out.

Look who didn't die out.

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Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 30, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
I blame Obama

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT WITH HIS DAMN HIP HOP, STEEL GUITAR MAKING MACHINE!
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 30, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
Look who didn't die out.

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Almost did.

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Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: bgreene on June 30, 2014, 09:22:23 PM
IT'S BUSH'S FAULT WITH HIS DAMN HIP HOP, STEEL GUITAR MAKING MACHINE!
Acctualy, the fault clearly rest on the shoulders of Billy Ray Cyrus with his GLORIOUS neck blanket, tank tops, and acid washed (tight rolled) jeans. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on July 01, 2014, 10:57:43 AM
I know you get tired of my Isbell suck fest but he said it best in an interview here lately.  All he wanted out of music was to be able to pay a mortagage, keep the electricity on and have fun doing it.  Cares nothing for riches and popularity.  Actually said that is the kiss of death and when you start selling out who you are.

Agree..

Props to Isbell.

Also to Yoakam, George Jones, Eric Church and anyone else who had the nads to speak up and say the same thing.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on July 01, 2014, 10:58:29 AM
Acctualy, the fault clearly rest on the shoulders of Billy Ray Cyrus with his GLORIOUS neck blanket, tank tops, and acid washed (tight rolled) jeans.

You aren't far off friend.

I'd say a combo of him and Barf Brooks.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on July 01, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
You aren't far off friend.

I'd say a combo of him and Barf Brooks.

Yup, those two helped usher it in like no one else.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 01, 2014, 03:11:23 PM
Yup, those two helped usher it in like no one else.

Don't tell my heart
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on July 01, 2014, 09:40:33 PM
Don't tell my heart

You think it would understand?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: bgreene on July 02, 2014, 10:12:04 AM
You think it would understand?

Not one single person could understand that epic mullet.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on July 02, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
Not one single person could understand that epic mullet.
The whiff....
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 02, 2014, 10:59:07 AM
You think it would understand?

No, but it might blow up.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on July 02, 2014, 11:00:03 AM
No, but it might blow up.

He may be nutless folks but he knows the format. Snagskins everyone!  :thumsup:
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: bgreene on July 02, 2014, 11:19:46 AM
The whiff....

-5 to me for not going with it.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on July 02, 2014, 11:21:47 AM
-5 to me for not going with it.

To be honest, youre the one who should be commended for not going along with the Billy Ray format. I'm ashamed I know that song.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: bgreene on July 02, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
To be honest, youre the one who should be commended for not going along with the Billy Ray format. I'm ashamed I know that song.

It's not your fault. It was burned in our brains by every single music station in the world. They are at fault just like Billy Ray.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on July 02, 2014, 02:37:35 PM
To be honest, youre the one who should be commended for not going along with the Billy Ray format. I'm ashamed I know that song.

I was about to ask Snags and yourself what in the hell is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 02, 2014, 03:01:08 PM
I was about to ask Snags and yourself what in the hell is wrong with you?

I don't know what's wrong but guess what?  I saw him in concert.   :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Was down in Pensacola with the wife visiting her sister.  Mulletman was playing at the civic center and they wanted to go.  Will there be beer?  Yes?  Okay.  He achey breakey'd and 8,000 women screamed.  I got slight wood but it didn't last long.  Okay, it was a raging boner but I was drinking and he looked hotter than he really was.   Once he finished playing the one or two songs he had on the radio, the concert actually wasn't that bad. They played Skynyrd and Zepplin covers and the lead guitarist put on a pretty damn good show.

Whatever.  I saw Captain & Tenille in high school too.  And the Jackson 5.  And Lionel Richie in Auburn.  And Jimmy Buffet.  Plus, I saw some dumb groups too.   
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: GH2001 on July 02, 2014, 04:08:25 PM


Whatever.  I saw Captain & Tenille in high school too.   And Lionel Richie in Auburn.  And Jimmy Buffet.  Plus, I saw some dumb groups too.   

All local acts technically.
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: AUTiger1 on July 02, 2014, 04:37:01 PM
I don't know what's wrong but guess what?  I saw him in concert.   :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Was down in Pensacola with the wife visiting her sister.  Mulletman was playing at the civic center and they wanted to go.  Will there be beer?  Yes?  Okay.  He achey breakey'd and 8,000 women screamed.  I got slight wood but it didn't last long.  Okay, it was a raging boner but I was drinking and he looked hotter than he really was.   Once he finished playing the one or two songs he had on the radio, the concert actually wasn't that bad. They played Skynyrd and Zepplin covers and the lead guitarist put on a pretty damn good show.

Whatever.  I saw Captain & Tenille in high school too.  And the Jackson 5.  And Lionel Richie in Auburn.  And Jimmy Buffet.  Plus, I saw some dumb groups too.   

I don't believe I would have told that. 
Title: Re: Why Country Music Is Awful in 2013
Post by: dallaswareagle on July 02, 2014, 04:48:29 PM

Whatever.  I saw Captain & Tenille in high school too.  And the Jackson 5.  And Lionel Richie in Auburn.  And Jimmy Buffet.  Plus, I saw some dumb groups too.   


I saw the Isleys brothers in Columbus.



I was easy to spot at that concert.