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Title: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 19, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
Can one of you recruiting nerds do us a favor?  Nerds too strong?

Does anyone have a list of who all will be on campus this weekend and what position they play?  We have 18 committed now so what...7-8 slots remain?  Who do you expect to fill those slots? In looking at the breakdown for next year at RB, we'd better pick up another stud in addition to Calloway because it goes:

Dyer
O'Mac
Smith (Who doesn't run the ball)
and....uummm...wait there's.....oh yeah, Ladarious Phillips and Davis Hooper.

Like I said...are we expected to ink another big time RB?   
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 19, 2011, 10:20:39 AM
I am no cruiten know it all, I just go to the sources. Here is a list that the Mayor put together on the AuburnEagle of the current commits and position.

QB - Kiehl Frazier
RB - Brent Calloway
RB/WR/KR - Quan Bray
WR - Kris Frost
WR - Jaylon Denson
WR - Sammie Coates
TE - C.J. Uzomah
OL - Greg Robinson
OL - Reese Dismukes
OL - Thomas O'Reilly
DE - Keymiya Harrell
DE/DT - JaBrian Niles
DT - Angelo Blackson
LB - Chris Landrum
LB - Justin Garrett
LB/S - Anthony Swain
CB - Jonathan Rose
CB/S - Robenson Therezie


Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 19, 2011, 10:22:28 AM
Here is the projected list that will fill out the rest of the class.

RB - Tre Mason / Isaiah Crowell
OL - Christian Westerman
TE - Brandon Fulse
DE - Ray Drew
DE - Devonte Sigler
DT - Gabe Wright
CB - Marcus Roberson
S - Erique Florence
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 19, 2011, 10:25:31 AM
Someone told me this morning that Erique is visiting Tuscaloosa this weekend.  I don't want that guy any where near that place.  Is he not coming for the ceremony this weekend?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 19, 2011, 10:28:02 AM
Someone told me this morning that Erique is visiting Tuscaloosa this weekend.  I don't want that guy any where near that place.  Is he not coming for the ceremony this weekend?

Florence will be an Auburn Tiger, he is just taking his visits. I'm looking to see if I can find a list of prospects and commits that will be at Jordan Hare this weekend. I saw one somewhere on the webz but I can't remember where.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 19, 2011, 10:28:30 AM
Someone told me this morning that Erique is visiting Tuscaloosa this weekend.  I don't want that guy any where near that place.  Is he not coming for the ceremony this weekend?
Don't worry, we only give out cars. Economy and all.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 19, 2011, 10:32:53 AM
Don't worry, we only give out cars. Economy and all.

Good thing Erique is not a Charger kind of guy.  He rolls better in a Denali.  Someone make sure the GMC dealership is on stand by.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 19, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
The Bham news said this morning that Roberson committed to Texas Tech?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 19, 2011, 11:54:55 AM
The Bham news said this morning that Roberson committed to Texas Tech?

His uncle...Otis Mounds, who coached him in high school...is on TT's staff. He was a GA but since their DB coach left to go to UF, Mounds is getting a heavy look to be DB coach over there. Although Roberson commited to them, Mounds still hasn't been formerly hired as far as I know. Per J. Lee of Rivals, this isn't over. Roberson has a OV this weekend but will be in Auburn the last week in January. J.Lee still thinks he signs with Auburn.

I will say this...if the kids goes out to Tech, best of luck to him...but damn. I think he would be a huge mistake and I think our coaches can help him see the light when he visits...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 19, 2011, 11:57:09 AM
The Bham news said this morning that Roberson committed to Texas Tech?

Yeah, I read that too and it seems to of caught some people off guard. They seem to think that the story is untrue and that Roberson is still Auburn bound.

What WE said.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 19, 2011, 01:11:34 PM
Roberson late yesterday sent a series of texts to people like Bryan Matthews and Chad Simmons that to be absolutley clear that he was "still open" when reporting on his commitment to Tech.  Everyone is confused.  It sounds to me like he's humoring a relative, but he wants to go elsewhere.  It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 19, 2011, 01:15:19 PM
OTIS MOUNDS, PLEASE REPORT TO THE DRESSING ROOM!
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: CCTAU on January 19, 2011, 04:36:52 PM
Rivals has us at 10 right now. Where are we projected to finish?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: GH2001 on January 19, 2011, 04:48:25 PM
Rivals has us at 10 right now. Where are we projected to finish?
3-5
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 19, 2011, 05:04:41 PM
3-5

Give me top 5 and it may move more than once.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 19, 2011, 05:17:08 PM
Give me top 5 and it may move more than once.
You'd better get the Jerkins ready, cause it's gon' be a top 3 class.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 19, 2011, 06:40:24 PM
You'd better get the Jerkins ready, cause it's gon' be a top 3 class.
Top 5 will be in order
SPuat
FSU
Auburn
Texas
UF/LSU
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 19, 2011, 08:15:49 PM
Top 5 will be in order
SPuat
FSU
Auburn
Texas
UF/LSU

Hey Prowler, AUS talking that some BIG and unexpected commit to AU in the next 20 to 40 hours very likely. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 19, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
Hey Prowler, AUS talking that some BIG and unexpected commit to AU in the next 20 to 40 hours very likely. 
Hmmmm...Big & Unexpected....Jonathan Jenkins or Cyrus Kouandijo?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 19, 2011, 09:06:29 PM
I would say Fulse is close.

But if it is unexpected, I am going to go with Anthony Chickilio...

For the record, I have no idea and have not heard about any commitments...but if there is one that is a surprise, I am going with him.

Could be Whitehead though...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 19, 2011, 09:41:49 PM
I would say Fulse is close.

But if it is unexpected, I am going to go with Anthony Chickilio...

For the record, I have no idea and have not heard about any commitments...but if there is one that is a surprise, I am going with him.

Could be Whitehead though...
I'd LOVE to snag Chickillo.  Dude Is A Bad Mutha Fucka.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 19, 2011, 10:37:49 PM
Btw, it's just been reported that Cyrus is coming to Auburn on his last official visit Jan. 28th.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 19, 2011, 11:47:26 PM
Btw, it's just been reported that Cyrus is coming to Auburn on his last official visit Jan. 28th.

AUS aint budging but most think its Clowney or Kouandijo. AUS did say it was someone not on the board right now. I think he was referring to the proposed board on his site. Whomever it is, its got people on the pay sites in a frizzle. I really think AUS's source is one of the coaches because he gets this info days before anyone else most of the time and he is usually spot on. Either way, if it comes through or not, he says he will explain what he was referring to.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: MarkChand on January 20, 2011, 07:21:42 AM
It's also being reported on ITAT that Westerman will announce Friday. I wouldn't exactly call that unexpected
if he does choose Auburn.

Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
AUS aint budging but most think its Clowney or Kouandijo. AUS did say it was someone not on the board right now. I think he was referring to the proposed board on his site. Whomever it is, its got people on the pay sites in a frizzle. I really think AUS's source is one of the coaches because he gets this info days before anyone else most of the time and he is usually spot on. Either way, if it comes through or not, he says he will explain what he was referring to.
AU will not pull Clowney or Kouandijo.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 10:07:00 AM
AU will not pull Clowney or Kouandijo.

I wouldn't put it past our coaches to pull whoever the fuck they want...

Matter of fact, I would be worried about Kouandijo coming to Auburn...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 20, 2011, 10:12:28 AM
With all due respect to the Auburn coaching staff, I'll eat a fucking hat if Cyrus signs with anyone but Alabama. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Saniflush on January 20, 2011, 10:24:15 AM
With all due respect to the Auburn coaching staff, I'll eat a fucking hat if Cyrus signs with anyone but Alabama.

I would qualify that it needs to be houndstooth in pattern but those do not exist.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 10:26:41 AM
With all due respect to the Auburn coaching staff, I'll eat a fucking hat if Cyrus signs with anyone but Alabama.

I don't want you to eat a hat but how about you take an avatar chosen by me?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 20, 2011, 11:03:27 AM
What do I get out of this?  And for the record, skreet cred is a non factor for me...so simply being right will not suffice.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 12:19:57 PM
I wouldn't put it past our coaches to pull whoever the fuck they want...

Matter of fact, I would be worried about Kouandijo coming to Auburn...
Keep on reading those AU boards. I think the only real contender for Cyrus, other than UA, is Iowa. Clowney will more than likely end up a Cock, with Alabama second. AU isn't even in his list of final 6 schools as of today.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 20, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
AU will not pull Clowney or Kouandijo.

Well no one saw the Calloway switch either. For what its worth, the ones mentioning these guys that are guessing based on what Scott said; it being someone not currently on the prospect board. "Earth shattering" is what he said. I have no clue what this is about but dude gets good info.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
Keep on reading those AU boards.

Holy shit this is funny to me. As if you have other inside info that you get. For Christ's sake dude...you read about what happened on game day from a god damn "board"...

The problem is this...you make a statement that there is no way Auburn pulls these kids, as if we don't have a fucking chance. You don't know and neither do I. But when you make a definitive statement like that, it wreaks of smugness as if Auburn is not good enough to get them. Fuck you and that bullshit attitude. I stand behind the statement that I don;t put it past this staff to get any god damn body in the country. Including either one of these two...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 12:34:35 PM
What do I get out of this?  And for the record, skreet cred is a non factor for me...so simply being right will not suffice.

You don't get shit. You offered up "eating a hat" without me giving up anything. Instead of eating a hat, how about an avatar change...

You were the one that made the absolute statement...not me...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 20, 2011, 12:42:17 PM
Here is the list of prospects that are not the BIG news.

RB Isaiah Crowell
RB Tre Mason
RB Marlin Lane
TE Brandon Fulse
OL Christian Westerman
DB Marcus Roberson
OL La'El Collins
DL DeVaunte Sigler
DE Ray Drew
OL Cyrus Kouandijo
DB Erique Florence
DT Gabe Wright
DT Jonathan Jenkins
DB Jermaine Whitehead
OL Xzavier Ward
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 12:43:11 PM
Holy shit this is funny to me. As if you have other inside info that you get. For Christ's sake dude...you read about what happened on game day from a god damn "board"...

The problem is this...you make a statement that there is no way Auburn pulls these kids, as if we don't have a fucking chance. You don't know and neither do I. But when you make a definitive statement like that, it wreaks of smugness as if Auburn is not good enough to get them. Fuck you and that bullshit attitude. I stand behind the statement that I don;t put it past this staff to get any god damn body in the country. Including either one of these two...
I made the statement because I simply don't believe AU will get either one. If I'm wrong, then holy fuck, I'm wrong. If my statement is smug, then so is yours. Obviously AU is good enough to get them; you guys just won a NC. It's simply my educated guess that neither will be at AU. Jesus. Clowney just gave an updated top 6 as of today, and AU isn't in it. Cyrus sounds like he has his mind already made up.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 12:46:43 PM
I made the statement because I simply don't believe AU will get either one. If I'm wrong, then holy fuck, I'm wrong. If my statement is smug, then so is yours. Obviously AU is good enough to get them; you guys just won a NC. It's simply my educated guess that neither will be at AU. Jesus.

The "Keep on reading those Auburn boards" part pushed me over the "just saying" category for you. You say that as if you have much more credible sources than simply the boards...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 20, 2011, 12:46:43 PM
MarkChand hit the head on the nail in regards to the "big" commit possiblity.  Good chance it's Westerman.  I do NOT believe we'll get Cyrus, OR Clowney. 

Clowney has been a Cock since day one in my opinion (along with many others).

Ray Drew is going to be an interesting pick.  Chances are we're actually one of three in consideration late.  He's torn between Auburn, Georgia and LSU.   Rivals writers are all divided on where he's going as well.  The kid has done a stellar job of keeping everyone guessing.  Something he's worked hard on throughout the process.

I think we're still getting a hard look from Crowell, and it sounds like we've got his last visit on the 28th, but I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up at Bama.  We're more than likely going to be pulling Tre Mason or Andrew Boui (sp?).

It's going to be a great day for the state of Alabama that day.  A true "wait and see" who finishes ahead of who at the end, but both still having a banner year.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 12:49:33 PM
MarkChand hit the head on the nail in regards to the "big" commit possiblity.  Good chance it's Westerman.  I do NOT believe we'll get Cyrus, OR Clowney. 

Clowney has been a Cock since day one in my opinion (along with many others).

Ray Drew is going to be an interesting pick.  Chances are we're actually one of three in consideration late.  He's torn between Auburn, Georgia and LSU.   Rivals writers are all divided on where he's going as well.  The kid has done a stellar job of keeping everyone guessing.  Something he's worked hard on throughout the process.

I think we're still getting a hard look from Crowell, and it sounds like we've got his last visit on the 28th, but I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up at Bama.  We're more than likely going to be pulling Tre Mason or Andrew Boui (sp?).

It's going to be a great day for the state of Alabama that day.  A true "wait and see" who finishes ahead of who at the end, but both still having a banner year.

I agree with that. But I think Crowell and Cyrus are both visiting on the 28th. That has to be good.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 20, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
Here is the list of prospects that are not the BIG news.

RB Isaiah Crowell
RB Tre Mason
RB Marlin Lane
TE Brandon Fulse
OL Christian Westerman
DB Marcus Roberson
OL La'El Collins
DL DeVaunte Sigler
DE Ray Drew
OL Cyrus Kouandijo
DB Erique Florence
DT Gabe Wright
DT Jonathan Jenkins
DB Jermaine Whitehead
OL Xzavier Ward

OL Christian Westerman has a "major announcement" about his recruitment on Friday according to Texas admins reporting on Twitter today.

They state that "all signs point to Auburn".

TIFWIW
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 20, 2011, 12:51:02 PM
I agree with that. But I think Crowell and Cyrus are both visiting on the 28th. That has to be good.

We'll see.  If we get one, we'll get them both.  I just think in the end they'll stick with Bama.

Would be fuckin' sweet if we pull them though.   :thumsup:
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 12:55:26 PM
MarkChand hit the head on the nail in regards to the "big" commit possiblity.  Good chance it's Westerman.  I do NOT believe we'll get Cyrus, OR Clowney. 

Clowney has been a Cock since day one in my opinion (along with many others).

Ray Drew is going to be an interesting pick.  Chances are we're actually one of three in consideration late.  He's torn between Auburn, Georgia and LSU.   Rivals writers are all divided on where he's going as well.  The kid has done a stellar job of keeping everyone guessing.  Something he's worked hard on throughout the process.

I think we're still getting a hard look from Crowell, and it sounds like we've got his last visit on the 28th, but I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up at Bama.  We're more than likely going to be pulling Tre Mason or Andrew Boui (sp?).

It's going to be a great day for the state of Alabama that day.  A true "wait and see" who finishes ahead of who at the end, but both still having a banner year.
UGA and AU are the true contenders for Crowell right now, IMO. I really don't think UA is in it anymore, and the Hart commitment pretty much put the nail in the coffin on that. UGA offered Crowell's cousin (who has now committed to UGA) a few days ago, and it looks like they will be a package deal (think Robert Lester and Julio). If I had to guess, I would say Crowell to UGA.

War Eagle!!! Disclaimer: AU could pull Crowell if they wanted. They are good enough to get Crowell. They are good enough to pull every RB in the country in one class if they wanted. AU coaches invented running backs. Curtis Luper is the illegitimate father of every elite RB in the country. He made them all.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 12:58:23 PM
The "Keep on reading those Auburn boards" part pushed me over the "just saying" category for you. You say that as if you have much more credible sources than simply the boards...
No, it's just a matter of the AU boards that are swearing AU lands Cyrus and Clowney without applying any logic to the situation. I arrived at my educated guess using logic.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
War Eagle!!! Disclaimer: AU could pull Crowell if they wanted. They are good enough to get Crowell. They are good enough to pull every RB in the country in one class if they wanted. AU coaches invented running backs. Curtis Luper is the illegitimate father of every elite RB in the country. He made them all.

Yeah...keep preaching that your comments aren't typical smug Alabama fan bullshit...

The comments like the one above is the reason that I don't let your other subtle comments go...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 20, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
OL Christian Westerman has a "major announcement" about his recruitment on Friday according to Texas admins reporting on Twitter today.

They state that "all signs point to Auburn".

TIFWIW

Yeah, I have read that too from multiple places but what AUS is saying that it is not Westerman.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: ssgaufan on January 20, 2011, 01:05:49 PM
UGA and AU are the true contenders for Crowell right now, IMO. I really don't think UA is in it anymore, and the Hart commitment pretty much put the nail in the coffin on that. UGA offered Crowell's cousin (who has now committed to UGA) a few days ago, and it looks like they will be a package deal (think Robert Lester and Julio). If I had to guess, I would say Crowell to UGA.

I'm just a big douchebag.


UGA offered this cousin (I didn't know it was a cousin, just heard that it was a team mate) who didn't have an offer from any other D1 schools.  He jumped on that offer before it could be pulled back.  I would find it extremely funny if we ended up with Crowell and they ended up with a wasted scholly.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 01:10:37 PM
Yeah...keep preaching that your comments aren't typical smug Alabama fan bullshit...

The comments like the one above is the reason that I don't let your other subtle comments go...
See, that one was a pretty direct comment. I put your name on it and everything, just so you wouldn't have to decipher anything. My original comment wasn't even meant as a jab; you decided to take it that way, though. If I'm going to take a jab, I'm just going to say it outright. I don't get into this cryptic Prowler bullshit.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 01:13:20 PM
UGA offered this cousin (I didn't know it was a cousin, just heard that it was a team mate) who didn't have an offer from any other D1 schools.  He jumped on that offer before it could be pulled back.  I would find it extremely funny if we ended up with Crowell and they ended up with a wasted scholly.
That would be amusing. I would like to have Crowell at UA, maybe a little more so than Hart. They are both pretty damn good backs, so I couldn't tell you which one is better. I just worry some about Hart's maturity. I hope it's just a matter of he had a hard time handling the whole recruiting process.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2011, 01:33:41 PM
See, that one was a pretty direct comment. I put your name on it and everything, just so you wouldn't have to decipher anything. My original comment wasn't even meant as a jab; you decided to take it that way, though. If I'm going to take a jab, I'm just going to say it outright. I don't get into this cryptic Prowler bullshit.

You're a dumb ass...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 20, 2011, 01:42:54 PM
RWS, what happened to UA taking Buck Allen......personally, I wouldn't mind having the kid from what I have seen, unless something has happened to him recently.  I know there were several excited about him earlier this year.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 20, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
RWS, what happened to UA taking Buck Allen......personally, I wouldn't mind having the kid from what I have seen, unless something has happened to him recently.  I know there were several excited about him earlier this year.
I think he will ultimately end up at UF. He was pretty high on UA, then AU took the lead, and now it's UF IMO. Also, I think there is some question as to whether he will qualify or not.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 20, 2011, 03:03:19 PM
You don't get shit. You offered up "eating a hat" without me giving up anything. Instead of eating a hat, how about an avatar change...

You were the one that made the absolute statement...not me...

Fair enough.  Deal.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 20, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
Latest tweet on Westerman from Orangebloods writer...

Quote
Received email from Christian Westerman's dad Tues. telling me his son was headed to #Auburn and "War Eagle." More info on Orangebloods.com
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 20, 2011, 03:46:57 PM
They're just 16-17 year old kids.  For Godsake, leave them alone.

Wait, wrong thread.  Continue
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 20, 2011, 04:31:21 PM
I think he will ultimately end up at UF. He was pretty high on UA, then AU took the lead, and now it's UF IMO. Also, I think there is some question as to whether he will qualify or not.

If he can qualify, I think he will do good things at UF.  I was actually excited when it looked like we might get him.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 20, 2011, 06:41:57 PM
Could the big news be WR Malcolm Mitchell?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 20, 2011, 07:03:47 PM
Could the big news be WR Malcolm Mitchell?

Interesting. The last time I checked, AUS is talking the big news may not be revealed till NSD due to timing.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 20, 2011, 08:00:55 PM
Interesting. The last time I checked, AUS is talking the big news may not be revealed till NSD due to timing.
Nope not MM, he's going to UGA.  Eh, I'm done speculating.  Hope he's a "Billy Badass".
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 20, 2011, 08:12:43 PM
Nope not MM, he's going to UGA.  Eh, I'm done speculating.  Hope he's a "Billy Badass".

Yeah, me too. It will happen when it happens.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 20, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
RB Dee Hart maybe?  I'll eventually get it after I name every recruit that's a 4 Star or better.

ATH De'Anthony "Black Mamba" Thomas?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 20, 2011, 09:13:29 PM
.....I'll eventually get it after I name every recruit.....

Skreets defined.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: GH2001 on January 21, 2011, 12:10:13 AM
Skreets defined.
:bugs:
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Jumbo on January 21, 2011, 02:06:42 AM
Skreets defined.
delightfully tacky yet unrefined.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2011, 05:23:09 AM
Skreets defined.
No, stupid fuck.  These are my guess.  I haven't heard anything from my skreets...yet.  If/When I do, I'll make sure you're the first to know.

Lemme clarify for you and, apparently, GH.  So y'all can understand it a little better, "I", not my "skreets", am guessing at the Big Time prospect.  If we do, what I think we will, it's gonna put bammerOnline in a Category 5 Meltdown.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 21, 2011, 08:57:29 AM
Lemme clarify for you and, apparently, GH.  So y'all can understand it a little better, "I", not my "skreets", am guessing at the Big Time prospect.  If we do, what J. Lee think's we will, it's gonna put bammerOnline in a Category 5 Meltdown.

Fixt
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 21, 2011, 02:55:54 PM
If/When I do, I'll make sure you're the first to know.


How so?  Are you going to send me your account name and password to the bunker?   
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 21, 2011, 03:07:50 PM
How so?  Are you going to send me your account name and password to the bunker?

*snicker*
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 21, 2011, 03:19:43 PM
How so?  Are you going to send me your account name and password to the bunker?

Oh shit, that just happened.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 21, 2011, 03:23:09 PM
Oh shit, that just happened.

He's on a roll today.  The "champion through" take was gold.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 21, 2011, 03:25:09 PM
How so?  Are you going to send me your account name and password to the bunker?

Oh my my.  Oh hell yes.

Sometimes I forget you are a bammer and I get all... well, whatever...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 21, 2011, 05:15:58 PM
Update on the BIG news:

  AUS a the AuburnEagle said the big news has fallen through. Apparently the news was about Dee Hart. Supposedly one of the Auburn coaches received a call from Hart, inquiring about enrolling at Auburn early. An Auburn coach then visited Dee at school. This pissed his HS coach off, the guy went to call Saban immediately. Amazingly, Dee was enrolled in classes at Alabama today.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 21, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
Dee Hunt.

Mike's brother?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 21, 2011, 05:22:09 PM
What kind of an insider doesn't know a 5 star recruits name?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 21, 2011, 05:50:26 PM
I could be wrong on this one...but I have the Kaos' Tyrik view on Dee Hunt...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUChizad on January 21, 2011, 05:52:33 PM
I could be wrong on this one...but I have the Kaos' Tyrik view on Dee Hunt...
There's definitely something fishy about his brother Mike.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 21, 2011, 07:16:12 PM
*******deleted because I'm sick of it******** :facepalm:
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 21, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
Sorry, it was Dee Hunt. I had a brain malfunction.

It was never Dee Hunt.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 21, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
It was never Dee Hunt.

DAMN'ET! I guess thats what I get for trying to post shit with my 1yr climbing on my back.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
It'd say it was a Win-Win situation.  The Auburn coaches forced Coach belittle into doing something that he didn't want to do.  They knew that he would find out about them going to talk to Dee.  If he didn't find out about it quick enough, he would be enrolled at Auburn today.  But since he did find out about it quick enough he is now enrolled at SPuat.  So, now SPuat has more RBs on their roster than Arkansas.  Putting Auburn in a perfect situation to make some noise for Crowell with his OV coming up next weekend.  If that OV takes place as scheduled.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 21, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
It'd say it was a Win-Win situation.  The Auburn coaches forced Coach belittle into doing something that he didn't want to do.  They knew that he would find out about them going to talk to Dee.  If he didn't find out about it quick enough, he would be enrolled at Auburn today.  But since he did find out about it quick enough he is now enrolled at SPuat.  So, now SPuat has more RBs on their roster than Arkansas.  Putting Auburn in a perfect situation to make some noise for Crowell with his OV coming up next weekend.  If that OV takes place as scheduled.

Uhhh.  Hart was committed anyway, dumbass.  Regardless of him enrolling early or late, he was still going to count against the scholarship totals and he was still impact the running back depth chart. 

His enrolling early does not help nor hurt Bama's chances with Crowell. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
Uhhh.  Hart was committed anyway, dumbass.  Regardless of him enrolling early or late, he was still going to count against the scholarship totals and he was still impact the running back depth chart. 

His enrolling early does not help nor hurt Bama's chances with Crowell. 
I'm sure the "company line" has already been emailed out to everyone.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 21, 2011, 10:40:11 PM
It'd say it was a Win-Win situation.  The Auburn coaches forced Coach belittle into doing something that he didn't want to do.  BLAH BLAH BLAH Putting Auburn in a perfect situation to make some noise for Crowell with his OV coming up next weekend.  If that OV takes place as scheduled.

Oh the tangled web we weave... do you seriously believe this?  This is an episode of As the Locker Room Turns - conspiracy theories.  This shit is tinfoil hat level material.  All we need now is Dr. Gene Chizenschmirtz Evil Incorporated trying to take over the entire Tri-State Area!!!

We get who we get, and either they want to come to Auburn or they don't.  Enough already.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2011, 11:05:26 PM
Oh the tangled web we weave... do you seriously believe this?  This is an episode of As the Locker Room Turns - conspiracy theories.  This shit is tinfoil hat level material.  All we need now is Dr. Gene Chizenschmirtz Evil Incorporated trying to take over the entire Tri-State Area!!!

We get who we get, and either they want to come to Auburn or they don't.  Enough already.
Yes....I do believe this.  Because it just happened.  Coach belittle didn't want Hart to enroll early for some unknown reason.  Auburn said that he could and forced belittle's hand into getting him enrolled on the very last day to enroll.

I'm sorry, TW...did I step on your leash that Token has you on?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 21, 2011, 11:09:45 PM
Yes....I do believe this.  Because it just happened.  Coach belittle didn't want Hart to enroll early for some unknown reason.  Auburn said that he could and forced belittle's hand into getting him enrolled on the very last day to enroll.

I'm sorry, TW...did I step on your leash that Token has you on?

Why in the HELL would Saban care one crap if the kid enrolled early?  One less to worry about.

I don't think anyone makes Saban do anything he does not want to do... and that is making a HUGE assumption that he "didn't" want to let the guy enroll early. 

Gaaahhh - never mind.  I feel stupider for even calling you out on something so ridiculous.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 21, 2011, 11:12:10 PM
First off, I'm not big into these cruiten conspiracies. With that said, I do believe what AUS is laying out on the table. I have been following this guy for the better part of two years and dude is been spot on except for the Marcus Lattimore situation. Dee Hart was and still is committed to bama, but apparently there was some indecisiveness here as of late. It seems Hart wanted to enroll early and whatever the circumstances were in his mind he felt like that was not going to happen for him at bama so he contacted one of the Auburn coaches. Once they paid him a visit, Harts HS coach said hell no and called Saban and within 24 hours, Hart was enrolled at bama. Whether this benefits Auburn, who the hell knows but what it does tell me is that the cruiten in this state is some for real shit now and both coaches need to be on top of their game.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2011, 11:15:33 PM
Why in the HELL would Saban care one crap if the kid enrolled early?  One less to worry about.

I don't think anyone makes Saban do anything he does not want to do... and that is making a HUGE assumption that he "didn't" want to let the guy enroll early. 

Gaaahhh - never mind.  I feel stupider for even calling you out on something so ridiculous.
Think of it like this.

In this situation, someone was playin' Chess...while the other were playin' Checkers.

And yes, he was on the Committed List, but he was told to hold on the early enroll.  Hart got word that if Coach belittle landed Isaiah Crowell, that his scholarship would be going to him and that a greyshirt would be offered.  Hart said fuck that bullshit, Auburn has been there since the get go and they said I could enroll early.  His HS Head Coach "crys wolf" and pushes Hart back to SPuat.  Less than 24 hours later he is completely enrolled at SPuat and is on campus starting classes.

And yes...today, Coach Chizik and Company made Coach belittle do something that he didn't want to do.  I'd be willing to bet that someone is still pulling their hair out in West Vance.

No tinfoil conspiracy black helicopter hats needed.  It happened that way, regardless of what the bammers want to believe.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 22, 2011, 12:30:14 AM
Wow. I don't think I've ever seen anyone misuse the phrase "cry wolf". You really are special.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 22, 2011, 07:46:09 AM
Wow. I don't think I've ever seen anyone misuse the phrase "cry wolf". You really are special.

If you're wondering....I didn't misuse the phrase "cry wolf".  Dee Hart was the Lamb and the Auburn Coach was the Wolf, hence "his HS Coach cried wolf".  You're the one that seems to be a little special.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 22, 2011, 09:26:58 AM
This was nothing more that a kid wanting to enroll early. Maybe Saban told Dee that this would happen and Dee felt like Saban was not keeping his word, who knows. Simply put, the kid gave the Auburn coaches a call to possibly enroll early and the Auburn coaches went to pay him a visit. Yes, all this was obviously the catalyst, through Dee's HS coach, to get him enrolled early at bama. I just find it hard to believe that the Auburn coaches used this primarily to fuck with Saban. Auburn saw a chance to kid a good RB to Auburn, that is all.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 22, 2011, 12:39:01 PM
To be honest, I think there is something to this conspiracy. Saban has a way with manipulating kids and Hart wanted to come in early. For some reason, Saban told him not to and then all of a sudden he changed his mind??? I think there is something to what prowler is saying.

Also, I agree with Token. Prowler also completely misused the phrase "cry wolf"...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 22, 2011, 01:28:58 PM
To be honest, I think there is something to this conspiracy. Saban has a way with manipulating kids and Hart wanted to come in early. For some reason, Saban told him not to and then all of a sudden he changed his mind??? I think there is something to what prowler is saying.

Like I said, I don't think the Auburn coaches had anything to do with some conspiracy. On the other hand, its pretty obvious that Saban did something or said something that had Hart calling the Auburn coaches. Everything points to Saban telling Hart that he could enroll early. With time running out to get enrolled, Hart felt like it wasn't gonna happen. But, miraculously, Hart got enrolled on the last day to do so.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUChizad on January 22, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
To be honest, I think there is something to this conspiracy. Saban has a way with manipulating kids and Hart wanted to come in early. For some reason, Saban told him not to and then all of a sudden he changed his mind??? I think there is something to what prowler is saying.

Also, I agree with Token. Prowler also completely misused the phrase "cry wolf"...
It's like you're in my head.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 22, 2011, 03:54:19 PM
Or maybe, after Saban couldn't talk BJ Scott out of transferring last Tuesday, a spot came open for Dee Hart to enroll 2 days later.
 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 22, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
Or maybe, after Saban couldn't talk BJ Scott out of transferring last Tuesday, a spot came open for Dee Hart to enroll 2 days later.
 
Dee Hart will make a nice Safety....I'm guessing Corey Grant will be the next transfer to UNA?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 22, 2011, 05:12:33 PM
Or maybe, after Saban couldn't talk BJ Scott out of transferring last Tuesday, a spot came open for Dee Hart to enroll 2 days later.

Bull. Fucking. Shit.

Hart was always coming in early. I don't keep up a ton with recruiting, but I did know that whoever got Hart, got an early enroller. And another thing, even if Hart came in early, he would have a spot even if there wasn't a spot last year. You don't HAVE to count back...it's just an option...

Dee Hart will make a nice Safety....I'm guessing Corey Grant will be the next transfer to UNA?

nah...Hart is not a safety...he is a running back. An over rated running back (I was serious when I said I had the Kaos' Tyrik view on this kid)...but a running back...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 22, 2011, 05:32:56 PM
Bull. Fucking. Shit.

Hart was always coming in early. I don't keep up a ton with recruiting, but I did know that whoever got Hart, got an early enroller. And another thing, even if Hart came in early, he would have a spot even if there wasn't a spot last year. You don't HAVE to count back...it's just an option...

I don't have inside knowledge because I'm not a coach, but according to the UA homers, Hart wasn't going to have a spot because of the other 8 early enrollments, which maxed the 85, thus not leaving a spot for Hart.  Then BJ transferred this past week, bringing the total down to 84. 

Again, that's all Chase Goodbread info, I don't know if it's true or not.  But (IMO) it seems more logical than Auburn coaches scaring Bama coaches into letting him enroll early.  I mean, he was going to enroll in this class either way. 

And honestly, he may be a bust.  I don't see where kids like Dee Hart, BJ Scott, Blake Sims or Corey Grant fit into a pro style offense.  I really don't understand why they keep signing up.  To go a little further, Alabama is going to take a major league PR hit before the season starts.  Even after losing the handful of seniors and juniors who jumped early, Alabama is already at 85 scholarships again going into spring drills, and they will likely sign the full 28 in February. 

I don't like over-signing, and this shit is going to hit big time after this class.  It's going to be so bad in my opinion, the NCAA will likely make rules to disallow such things from happening in the future.  At least, I hope they do.  Because if they don't?  Other schools are going to have a huge recruiting advantage against Saban in the future.  "If you go to Alabama, you might get a full scholarship". 

I don't like it.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 22, 2011, 05:58:37 PM
I don't have inside knowledge because I'm not a coach, but according to the UA homers, Hart wasn't going to have a spot because of the other 8 early enrollments, which maxed the 85, thus not leaving a spot for Hart.  Then BJ transferred this past week, bringing the total down to 84. 

Again, that's all Chase Goodbread info, I don't know if it's true or not.  But (IMO) it seems more logical than Auburn coaches scaring Bama coaches into letting him enroll early.  I mean, he was going to enroll in this class either way. 

And honestly, he may be a bust.  I don't see where kids like Dee Hart, BJ Scott, Blake Sims or Corey Grant fit into a pro style offense.  I really don't understand why they keep signing up.  To go a little further, Alabama is going to take a major league PR hit before the season starts.  Even after losing the handful of seniors and juniors who jumped early, Alabama is already at 85 scholarships again going into spring drills, and they will likely sign the full 28 in February. 

I don't like over-signing, and this shit is going to hit big time after this class.  It's going to be so bad in my opinion, the NCAA will likely make rules to disallow such things from happening in the future.  At least, I hope they do.  Because if they don't?  Other schools are going to have a huge recruiting advantage against Saban in the future.  "If you go to Alabama, you might get a full scholarship". 

I don't like it.

If Hart made 85, where are the other 20 something recruits going? Shouldn't the guys that have graduated or have left early, not count in the 85 scholly's? Or since they are in winter semester, they still count?

Yall had 8 early enrollees? Damn. How in the fuck is Saban going to pull this shit off in the fall only having 85 total scholarships. What a cluster fuck...

*EDIT* and you may be right...but I wouldn't put it past Saban to try and make Hart wait so he can feed what ever shit he wants to to guys like Crowell. I could be wrong...but Saban is a used car salesman when it comes to recruiting IMO...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 22, 2011, 06:31:51 PM
I don't have inside knowledge because I'm not a coach, but according to the UA homers, Hart wasn't going to have a spot because of the other 8 early enrollments, which maxed the 85, thus not leaving a spot for Hart.  Then BJ transferred this past week, bringing the total down to 84. 

Again, that's all Chase Goodbread info, I don't know if it's true or not.  But (IMO) it seems more logical than Auburn coaches scaring Bama coaches into letting him enroll early.  I mean, he was going to enroll in this class either way. 

And honestly, he may be a bust.  I don't see where kids like Dee Hart, BJ Scott, Blake Sims or Corey Grant fit into a pro style offense.  I really don't understand why they keep signing up.  To go a little further, Alabama is going to take a major league PR hit before the season starts.  Even after losing the handful of seniors and juniors who jumped early, Alabama is already at 85 scholarships again going into spring drills, and they will likely sign the full 28 in February. 

I don't like over-signing, and this shit is going to hit big time after this class.  It's going to be so bad in my opinion, the NCAA will likely make rules to disallow such things from happening in the future.  At least, I hope they do.  Because if they don't?  Other schools are going to have a huge recruiting advantage against Saban in the future.  "If you go to Alabama, you might get a full scholarship". 

I don't like it.
I'm not sure how the NCAA could do anything about oversigning, if the kids agree on the Greyshirt.  But, putting kids on Medical Scholarships/Hardships should get the NCAA's attention.  Especially when the kid comes out and says he wasn't injured enough to warrent it that Coach belittle probably just wanted my scholarhship to give to the incoming class.  Now, that'll get the NCAA's attention, as it should.  That has nothing at all to do with "finding loopholes" and everything to do with having the training staff lieing to the NCAA to put the kid(s) on Medical.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Token on January 22, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
I'm not sure how the NCAA could do anything about oversigning, if the kids agree on the Greyshirt.  But, putting kids on Medical Scholarships/Hardships should get the NCAA's attention.  Especially when the kid comes out and says he wasn't injured enough to warrent it that Coach belittle probably just wanted my scholarhship to give to the incoming class.  Now, that'll get the NCAA's attention, as it should.  That has nothing at all to do with "finding loopholes" and everything to do with having the training staff lieing to the NCAA to put the kid(s) on Medical.

Medical scholarships doesn't bother me.  Zeke Knight was also a disgruntled player who felt as though he was going to be forced on a medical scholly when he could play.  Then he transferred somewhere, and had the same shit happen there.  If the doctor doesn't clear them to play, so be it. 

Grayshirts are the same.  If the kid wants to sit out an entire year and then enroll, so be it.  My concern is the kids who transfer to other schools.  Are they transferring because they want playing time, or are they transferring because they are told it's in their best interest? 

When 15-20 players transfer this season to make room for the incoming class, it's not going to look good.  Even if the decision is totally on the players leaving, it's going to be very, very bad.  Which again, is why I hope the NCAA or SEC puts a limit on over-signing. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 22, 2011, 07:57:52 PM
Medical scholarships doesn't bother me.  Zeke Knight was also a disgruntled player who felt as though he was going to be forced on a medical scholly when he could play.  Then he transferred somewhere, and had the same shit happen there.  If the doctor doesn't clear them to play, so be it. 

Grayshirts are the same.  If the kid wants to sit out an entire year and then enroll, so be it.  My concern is the kids who transfer to other schools.  Are they transferring because they want playing time, or are they transferring because they are told it's in their best interest? 

When 15-20 players transfer this season to make room for the incoming class, it's not going to look good.  Even if the decision is totally on the players leaving, it's going to be very, very bad.  Which again, is why I hope the NCAA or SEC puts a limit on over-signing. 
Yes this year, with SPuat only having 8 Seniors and 3 Juniors graduating or going Pro and 1 transferring.  That's only 12 spots open, meaning that it'll not look good when 13 players on the roster transfer, take a medical, has their scholly pulled to pay their own way, the incoming 13 grayshirts...or some form of those, will definitely look bad.  The insteresting thing will be, which players aren't going to be a part of the team this upcoming year.

Plus, IIRC, wasn't there two prospects from last year's signing class that grayshirted and was "promised" a scholarship this year?  One of them was already enrolled to start classes and was already working out with the team, only to be told that he wasn't going to be with the team....Wilson Love, I think.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 22, 2011, 08:29:17 PM
Yes this year, with SPuat only having 8 Seniors and 3 Juniors graduating or going Pro and 1 transferring.  That's only 12 spots open, meaning that it'll not look good when 13 players on the roster transfer, take a medical, has their scholly pulled to pay their own way, the incoming 13 grayshirts...or some form of those, will definitely look bad.  The insteresting thing will be, which players aren't going to be a part of the team this upcoming year.

Plus, IIRC, wasn't there two prospects from last year's signing class that grayshirted and was "promised" a scholarship this year?  One of them was already enrolled to start classes and was already working out with the team, only to be told that he wasn't going to be with the team....Wilson Love, I think.
Harrison Jones. And he is already on scholarship. After he was told he would need to greyshirt, Jermaine Griffin was put on a medical scholly like a month afterwards, and Jones took his spot.

As for Wilson Love, IMO, he will end up eventually on medical as well. He broke his fibula in his final HS game, and I doubt that is going to get back to where it needs to be for him to be a factor on the DL.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 23, 2011, 09:04:59 PM
This was nothing more that a kid wanting to enroll early. Maybe Saban told Dee that this would happen and Dee felt like Saban was not keeping his word, who knows. Simply put, the kid gave the Auburn coaches a call to possibly enroll early and the Auburn coaches went to pay him a visit. Yes, all this was obviously the catalyst, through Dee's HS coach, to get him enrolled early at bama. I just find it hard to believe that the Auburn coaches used this primarily to fuck with Saban. Auburn saw a chance to kid a good RB to Auburn, that is all.

THIS.  If anyone was fucking with Saban, it was Dee Hart.  He called us, remember?  How is that a conspiracy created by Auburn coaches?  I do believe this happened, and probably just this way, but I think the AU coaches just took the opportunity that was given to them.  I doubt the AU coaches thought for one minute that Hart would actually commit - but no way do they just blow him off either. 

And to cry wolf, Prowler, means to cry for help when you really don't need it, just to get attention...

Oh wait - maybe you used it right after all.  Just not in reference to Dee Hart.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: GH2001 on January 24, 2011, 12:10:30 AM

And to cry wolf, Prowler, means to cry for help when you really don't need it, just to get attention...

Oh wait - maybe you used it right after all.  Just not in reference to Dee Hart.

Excellent   :rofl:

I still heart you very much
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 24, 2011, 10:50:13 AM
Wait, so you are saying that a 5* kid takes a gray shirt?

*snicker*
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 24, 2011, 10:53:17 AM
Wait, so you are saying that a 5* kid takes a gray shirt?

*snicker*

He will have to redshirt at least from all the knee scrapes he gets from crawling through glass to get to Chiz.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 10:58:34 AM
From what I have read, both Gabe Wright and Isaiah Crowell will be at the Columbus Community announcing their commitments together on NSD. This is a great sign for Auburn. The reason? Wright is considered to be by most people as a silent commit to Auburn.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 24, 2011, 11:19:55 AM
From what I have read, both Gabe Wright and Isaiah Crowell will be at the Columbus Community announcing their commitments together on NSD. This is a great sign for Auburn. The reason? Wright is considered to be by most people as a silent commit to Auburn.

I guess I am being pessimistic, but I don't see why this a sure fire good sign for AU.  A lot of kids announce together and it's not always to the same school.   Olive Branch had 5 to 7 last year announce at the same time and the schools were all mixed.   

Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 11:21:47 AM
Also, another tidbit, Ray Drew will be announcing this Friday. All indications points to him signing with Auburn.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2011/ray-drew-has-a-new-leader/?utm_source=GeorgiaSDS&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 11:26:02 AM
I guess I am being pessimistic, but I don't see why this a sure fire good sign for AU.  A lot of kids announce together and it's not always to the same school.   Olive Branch had 5 to 7 last year announce at the same time and the schools were all mixed.

No, I don't think you're being pessimistic at all, that does happen a good bit. The post also reflects a lot of other stuff I have read too. Its just when you add this current bit of info, it makes it very exciting. Georgia is trying everything to get this kid but I really do feel Crowell signs with Auburn come NSD.

Also, Wright and Crowell are pretty close and Wright has been recruiting Crowell to Auburn hard. You add that and def playing time, I think that in itself gets Auburn the edge. Check the video out.

http://auburn.scout.com/2/1036150.html
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 24, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
I'm not sold on either one until they announce.  I think we get Wright, but if he pulled the switch to UT or UGA, I wouldn't be shocked.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 24, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
From everything I've read (my skreets: Rivals, AuburnUndercover, Scout & several GA Writers and twitter accounts, Rivals radio on XM...lol), universally Ray Drew is credited with being the hardest recruit to nail down to a school to be so late in his recruitment.  As convfident as J. Lee, Mattews, Caldwell and others feel about him coming to AU, there are LSU and GA writers feeling confident about their standing as well.

In my opinion, regardless of what he's said, some actions of his (including a very good back and forth with a fellow recruit over Cam's situation on FB), he seems to be really into AU.  So, I'd give us the slight edge due to actions over words. 

Crowell has been a Bama lean for so long, that it'll be tough for him to swing out, but I'm not sure he wants to be second fiddle to Hart.  He's been hanging with a lot of AU folks, including playing in the same backfield as Frazier on a game winning All-star game drive.  He's been hanging out with heavy AU recruiters like Dismukes and other players. 

For the same reason we should have an edge with Fulse, I actually give us the edge on Bama to swing Crowell.  Just too much communication and relationships on the long term recruiting trail.  Us having his last visit next weekend can't hurt either.  If Drew commits on Friday, look for Crowell and others to secure a top 3 class on signing day.  They'll all want to be part of it.

Just my opinion sifting through everything....
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: RWS on January 24, 2011, 12:25:49 PM
I know alot of Bama folks are saying Hart's commitment doesn't affect Crowell, and it probably doesn't to our coaches. But to Crowell, I think it changes alot IMO. Whether he goes to AU or UGA is probably a toss up, but I can't help to think that Alabama is on the outside looking in at this point. It would be great if I'm wrong, though.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 12:27:02 PM
Thats pretty good stuff Chop. I'm just curious, seriously, did you mean to say Auburn in this part of your post?

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I actually give us the edge on Bama to swing Crowell
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 24, 2011, 12:30:05 PM
I know alot of Bama folks are saying Hart's commitment doesn't affect Crowell, and it probably doesn't to our coaches. But to Crowell, I think it changes alot IMO. Whether he goes to AU or UGA is probably a toss up, but I can't help to think that Alabama is on the outside looking in at this point. It would be great if I'm wrong, though.

That!  I will hear fans from other fan bases and our own say things like "it doesn't matter, we will play the best" or "if the coaches think he is good enough, he will play"......something along that nature, so they think have recruit X locked up, when no one realizes that the kid might be thinking "wow, they brought him in, they don't need me, I am going to school Y now".
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 24, 2011, 01:07:25 PM
It really has to be attractive to Crowell or whoever to see our depth chart at RB.  And seeing how Malzahn uses his backs can't hurt either.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 01:31:11 PM
It really has to be attractive to Crowell or whoever to see our depth chart at RB.  And seeing how Malzahn uses his backs can't hurt either.

Absolutely and I think that is what Crowell and Mason are thinking as well.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 24, 2011, 01:43:24 PM
My feeling as of right now is that we miss on Crowell, Drew, and Collins. I think we sign Wright, Florence, Roberson, Abdulah, Mason, Fulse...and a few diamonds in the rough.

I think Collins signs at LSU and Crowell and Drew at UGA. I think Richt is desperate and pulling out all the stops. I think we miss bad on RB's this year which may hurt us...

I hope I am wrong...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 24, 2011, 01:54:44 PM
My feeling as of right now is that we miss on Crowell, Drew, and Collins. I think we sign Wright, Florence, Roberson, Abdulah, Mason, Fulse...and a few diamonds in the rough.

I think Collins signs at LSU and Crowell and Drew at UGA. I think Richt is desperate and pulling out all the stops. I think we miss bad on RB's this year which may hurt us...

I hope I am wrong...

That is what scares me about this class as well.  Hoping like hell we can steal a Crowell, Brown or someone along those line. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 24, 2011, 03:12:35 PM
If we miss out on signing a back do you think Eric Smith moves back to tailback like Tubs recruited him for?  He can be a good third down back a-la Fannin as he seems to be a decent blocker and has some good hands.  Might be able to drop a few pounds in the offseason if needed.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 03:23:23 PM
I'd be willing make a friendly wager of a beer of your choice that we do get a great RB in this years class. Hell, we might even get two. I know its recruiting and you really can't be too sure of anything but I'm telling you that Auburn will get their fair share of the RB class this year. I think they had only planned on signing two and thats not counting Calloway.

My guesstimation is Crowell and Mason.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 24, 2011, 03:31:58 PM
Oh, I think we get Mason, but I wanted someone else to go along with him.   I think we end up with James and Mason.   I would rather have Allen than James, not what I was expecting, but it is a little disappointing. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 24, 2011, 03:41:29 PM
Gurus unite again and feed me info.  What kinds of backs are these guys as far as size and/or running style.  Obviously what we're used to in the first two years under CGM is a mixture of power and speed with Tate/Dyer/O'Mac.  Don't want to get caught up in focusing on the scat back (See Bowden's later years) when it's a given that you HAVE to be able to pound it like Ron Jeremy in this league.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: MarkChand on January 24, 2011, 04:02:59 PM
Gurus unite again and feed me info.  What kinds of backs are these guys as far as size and/or running style.  Obviously what we're used to in the first two years under CGM is a mixture of power and speed with Tate/Dyer/O'Mac.  Don't want to get caught up in focusing on the scat back (See Bowden's later years) when it's a given that you HAVE to be able to pound it like Ron Jeremy in this league.

 :fu:

Signed,
Markeith Cooper
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 04:04:28 PM
Oh, I think we get Mason, but I wanted someone else to go along with him.   I think we end up with James and Mason.   I would rather have Allen than James, not what I was expecting, but it is a little disappointing.

I'm not so sure Auburn is even actively recruiting Allen or James anymore. I'm sure if Auburn was to miss out on either or both Crowell or Mason then these other two would jump on it. Mason is really high on Auburn so I expect him to sign. I know there is many who don't have a lot of confidence Crowell will sign with Auburn but I do. I think he has a solid relationship with Gabe Wright, but I thinks its the lure of playing time that will be the ultimate factor; and lets not forget BCS champs.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 04:13:41 PM
Well Snaggle, it seems to be a mixture. Here are some links to Crowell and Mason for player bios.

Crowell
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4191930

Mason
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4206675
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 24, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
Well Snaggle, it seems to be a mixture. Here are some links to Crowell and Mason for player bios.

Crowell
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4191930

Mason
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4206675

Cool.  Thanks.  I say we just sign them both and we're guaranteed that thunder and lightning combo for years to come.  See, wasn't that easy?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 24, 2011, 04:49:22 PM
Crowell is the key. For some reason, we stopped recruiting Buie. For a long time, the 2 backs were Mason and Buie. Then we signed Calloway as a RB, and now Crowell comes into the mix. That stopped the recruiting of Buie and I am not sure what will happen with Mason. I think Mason may be the only one that we end up getting....
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: MarkChand on January 24, 2011, 04:55:18 PM
A quick sidenote:

Kyle Crofoot, of the famed deep-snapping Crofoot family, was in attendance this past weekend. He will be the 5th and final
of the Crofoot youngins' to make a college roster as a deep snapper. He has yet to decide on a school.

I figured Snag would appreciate
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 24, 2011, 05:05:10 PM
A quick sidenote:

Kyle Crofoot, of the famed deep-snapping Crofoot family, was in attendance this past weekend. He will be the 5th and final
of the Crofoot youngins' to make a college roster as a deep snapper. He has yet to decide on a school.

I figured Snag would appreciate

It just moved.

Actually, it was either the deep snapper info or your avatar.  I'm adding that one to the list.  Yours, Chinook's, ssgaufans and Sani's.  All day long.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 24, 2011, 05:05:25 PM
Crowell is the key. For some reason, we stopped recruiting Buie. For a long time, the 2 backs were Mason and Buie. Then we signed Calloway as a RB, and now Crowell comes into the mix. That stopped the recruiting of Buie and I am not sure what will happen with Mason. I think Mason may be the only one that we end up getting....

This is my fear as well.  Buie is WVU bound, the Old Piss mods seem to think they have Mason coming to them.  Gotta be honest, that bothers me a little.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
Crowell is the key. For some reason, we stopped recruiting Buie. For a long time, the 2 backs were Mason and Buie. Then we signed Calloway as a RB, and now Crowell comes into the mix. That stopped the recruiting of Buie and I am not sure what will happen with Mason. I think Mason may be the only one that we end up getting....
I agree, Crowell is the big fish and his recruitment is firing on all cylinders. It should be fun ride to Feb 2nd. I don't know what happened to Buie either. He just kind of fell off the board for Auburn. I do know that the Auburn backed off several players because of grades so this might be a reason. Auburn coaches aren't really wanting to sign a kid and have to send them to JUCO. From I read though, Auburn is holding two spots open for Crowell and Mason. They know something, I guess.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 24, 2011, 05:09:21 PM
This is my fear as well.  Buie is WVU bound, the Old Piss mods seem to think they have Mason coming to them.  Gotta be honest, that bothers me a little.

I find it hard to believe Mason would go to Ole Piss when Auburn has pretty much promised him a scholly and as high on Auburn as Mason is.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 24, 2011, 05:15:57 PM
Per an al.com article about Kiehl Frazier:

Quote
Frazier was among three five-star players committed, five others who are on board and a handful of others on Auburn's recruiting visitors' list during the Tigers' national championship weekend leading up to National Signing Day on Feb. 2. 

Frazier was familiar with the visiting routine. He's been to Auburn a half-dozen other times, including games, but said the 78,000 who showed up Saturday in Jordan-Hare Stadium for the celebration caught him off guard. 

"I expected like 10,000 people, and it was packed," he said. "I can't wait to get out there and be playing on Saturdays." 

He left this visit saying he'll be working on persuading some uncommitted players to join him at Auburn. 

"Since I committed, it's kind of my job to get these guys on board," Frazier said. "I think we'll get a few unexpected people on Feb. 2."

Frazier said he worked on Columbus, Ga., defensive tackle Gabe Wright and Valley defensive back Erique Florence, both of whom were at the celebration. 

"We're in good position with pretty much all the players we're going after. Hopefully, on signing day, we'll get a few more," he said.
 

He said "WE"... **sigh**

Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 24, 2011, 05:19:11 PM
Family baby.  All in.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 25, 2011, 02:08:33 PM
Rivals and 24/7 Sports reporting Crowell may not visit this weekend.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: The Prowler on January 25, 2011, 11:18:18 PM
Rivals and 24/7 Sports reporting Crowell may not visit this weekend.
Yup...I'd say that tells it all.  I think we end up getting Mason, I hope.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 26, 2011, 12:30:57 AM
Yup...I'd say that tells it all.  I think we end up getting Mason, I hope.

If we don't get Mason, then this year was a big whiff on RB recruiting.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Jumbo on January 26, 2011, 01:05:36 AM
Ray Drew Info
http://atlanta.sbnation.com/georgia-bulldogs/2011/1/25/1955111/georgia-football-recruiting-star-prospect-ray-drew-wont-be-a-member (http://atlanta.sbnation.com/georgia-bulldogs/2011/1/25/1955111/georgia-football-recruiting-star-prospect-ray-drew-wont-be-a-member)

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Georgia Recruiting: Ray Drew Won't Be A Member Of The "Dream Team"
Jan 2
 
10:41a
 by Brian Jones

Georgia head coach Mark Richt has put together a "dream team" of recruits that he thinks will help get Georgia back to their winning ways. They have done a good job so far by grabbing star prospects from Valdosta High School, Jay Rome and Malcolm Mitchell. But the Bulldogs got a hit to the gut, as super star prospect Ray Drew is possibly ruling out Georgia as his college of choice.

Drew broke the news last night on Score Atlanta's The Official Visit, a recruiting radio show on 790 the Zone. One of the things he mentioned about Georgia is he is not sure how he will fit into the 3-4 defensive scheme. He also said that Georgia is looking to put him as a outside linebacker rather than his natural position, defensive end.

Many have said Drew is the best prospect in the state, and some have gone further and said he is one of the 10 best prospects in the country. He is set to make his decision on Friday. Some of the finalists could be Auburn, LSU and Clemson.

For more on this, you can go to the Sports by Fletch blog, which is ran by Fletcher Proctor, the co-host of the Official Visit. He has quotes from the interview with Drew.

Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: chinook on January 26, 2011, 01:17:19 AM
The quote function wins again.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Jumbo on January 26, 2011, 01:33:53 AM
The quote function wins again.
Fixd :civic:
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 26, 2011, 10:19:55 AM
Has anyone heard about Mason and Sigler will be announcing today? Or is that tomorrow?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 26, 2011, 10:20:56 AM
Has anyone heard about Mason and Sigler will be announcing today? Or is that tomorrow?

Both today.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 26, 2011, 10:23:37 AM
Ray Drew Info
http://atlanta.sbnation.com/georgia-bulldogs/2011/1/25/1955111/georgia-football-recruiting-star-prospect-ray-drew-wont-be-a-member (http://atlanta.sbnation.com/georgia-bulldogs/2011/1/25/1955111/georgia-football-recruiting-star-prospect-ray-drew-wont-be-a-member)

Hm. This goes against everything that I have seen. Weird. I think the guys is fucking with everyone...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 26, 2011, 10:27:06 AM
Both today.

Thats good. So thats Mason and Sigler today, Fulse tomorrow and Drew on Friday.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUChizad on January 26, 2011, 10:43:36 AM
Thats good. So thats Mason and Sigler today, Fulse tomorrow and Drew on Friday.
We know times?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 26, 2011, 10:50:19 AM
We know times?

Sigler 12:30
Mason 3:00
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 26, 2011, 11:30:37 AM
Hm. This goes against everything that I have seen. Weird. I think the guys is phuking with everyone...

He is tolling harder than B'ham ever did. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: MarkChand on January 26, 2011, 01:07:14 PM
These guys are saying Mason is a Tiger already:

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/highschoolbuzz/2011/01/26/park-vista-rb-tre-mason-commits-to-auburn/ (http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/highschoolbuzz/2011/01/26/park-vista-rb-tre-mason-commits-to-auburn/)
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: ssgaufan on January 26, 2011, 01:31:45 PM
What about Sigler?  Isn't his presser going on right now?
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 26, 2011, 01:39:32 PM
What about Sigler?  Isn't his presser going on right now?

 I wish I knew, the place I usually go for this stuff is under maintenance mode.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 26, 2011, 01:40:13 PM
What about Sigler?  Isn't his presser going on right now?

He chose the good guys...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUChizad on January 26, 2011, 01:41:16 PM
What about Sigler?  Isn't his presser going on right now?
Wondering this myself.

Glad to hear about Mason (allegedly). Would have preferred Crowell, but this is not bad either. Better than Abdullah Abdullah.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 26, 2011, 01:41:55 PM
By the way, Florence commited today also.

For those keeping track, that will be 1 3* and 2 4*'s today with an additional 4* tomorrow.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUChizad on January 26, 2011, 01:42:02 PM
He chose the good guys...
Sweet. :thumsup:
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUChizad on January 26, 2011, 01:43:05 PM
By the way, Florence commited today also.
Sweeter.  :thumsup: :thumsup:
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 26, 2011, 01:43:56 PM
He chose the good guys...

AUsome!

Sweeter.  :thumsup: :thumsup:

...and what Chad said!
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 26, 2011, 01:44:19 PM
By the way, Florence commited today also.

For those keeping track, that will be 1 3* and 2 4*'s today with an additional 4* tomorrow.

Actually, I don;t see it anywhere that Florence committed except in the Sigler article. Hokansonmay have made a typo...

Quote
Auburn added a commitment on Wednesday as Mobile (Ala.) B.C. Rain defensive end/linebacker Devaunte Sigler announced he would sign with Auburn.

With offers from across the southeast, Sigler ultimately chose the Tigers over LSU and Mississippi State in a ceremony at his high school.

   
Auburn defensive line coach Tracy Rocker is very high on the versatile Sigler.
The 6-foot-4, 250-pound versatile defensive recruit officially visited Auburn in December, and followed that visit up with a trip to Mississippi State in January. A previously scheduled trip to LSU was canceled when Sigler decided to attend the Tigers national championship celebration this past weekend.

With the ability to play outside linebacker, Sigler projects at defensive end for the Tigers.

Sigler joins Valley (Ala.) four-star safety Erique Florence as the second commitment of the day to Auburn, and the Tigers may not be done.

Lake Worth (Fla.) four-star running back Tre Mason is set to announce his decision Wednesday afternoon, with Ole Miss and Auburn being his two finalists.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: chinook on January 26, 2011, 01:46:46 PM
I wish I knew, the place I usually go for this stuff is under maintenance mode.

Skreet Sweeper

(http://blawgletter.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/streetsweeper.jpg)
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 26, 2011, 02:01:52 PM
Skreet Sweeper

(http://blawgletter.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/streetsweeper.jpg)

Hell yeah, all us pieces of trash are getting pushed to the curb.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 26, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
If we get Erique, I may just jizz my pants. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 26, 2011, 02:14:50 PM
Actually, I don;t see it anywhere that Florence committed except in the Sigler article. Hokansonmay have made a typo...

Me thinks he did to, it was said earlier today that he would be announcing on ESPNU on NSD. 
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 26, 2011, 02:17:25 PM
Me thinks he did to, it was said earlier today that he would be announcing on ESPNU on NSD.

I don't think its really secret to anybody where Florence will go but maybe the writer let the cat out of the bag of what he has been told officially. I think Florence has been a silent commit since the summer.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 27, 2011, 05:19:25 PM
Fair enough.  Deal.

Lugenbill (sp) just said he thought Cyrus would sign with Auburn today on the Finebaum show...
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: GH2001 on January 27, 2011, 11:31:07 PM
Erique has been a NSD decision the entire time. Would shock the hell out of me if he signed with anyone but Auburn. Although a couple of the recruiting gurus on one site have been entertaining the rumor that he may go to USC on NSD.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 27, 2011, 11:35:11 PM
Erique has been a NSD decision the entire time. Would shock the hell out of me if he signed with anyone but Auburn. Although a couple of the recruiting gurus on one site have been entertaining the rumor that he may go to USC on NSD.

As many know, Erique is my boyee. I say that only because I've been to watch him play 2 years in a row. 

We need this guy. I'm telling you, he's in the top 2-3 athletes I've ever seen play H.S. ball.  Big time playah.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2011, 12:05:09 AM
As many know, Erique is my boyee. I say that only because I've been to watch him play 2 years in a row. 

We need this guy. I'm telling you, he's in the top 2-3 athletes I've ever seen play H.S. ball.  Big time playah.

And imagine how good he will look when he is able to get back to his natural position. Dude is a hitta, no doubt.

I see you finally gave up on the 'n'. He perciates it.
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 28, 2011, 09:36:27 AM
And imagine how good he will look when he is able to get back to his natural position. Dude is a hitta, no doubt.

I see you finally gave up on the 'n'. He perciates it.

N-ree-kay Iglaseus
Title: Re: Gurus Unite...
Post by: djsimp on January 29, 2011, 09:21:12 AM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6066100