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Title: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 01, 2023, 08:58:05 PM
What are we doing special for Pride month?

I know many of you will probably just suck an extra cock or two. But I am talking specifically as a message board.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 01, 2023, 10:33:06 PM
What are we doing special for Pride month?

I know many of you will probably just suck an extra cock or two. But I am talking specifically as a message board.

I just figured we’d all crack open a bud light at the same time and talk about how oppressed the gays are in the U.S.

Then laugh together at people with made up problems, like: hunger, addiction, physical or mental disabilities, etc… What very stupid things to advocate for loudly by corporations or private citizens when we have so much misgendering going on.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 02, 2023, 07:55:59 AM
I just figured we’d all crack open a bud light at the same time and talk about how oppressed the gays are in the U.S.

Then laugh together at people with made up problems, like: hunger, addiction, physical or mental disabilities, etc… What very stupid things to advocate for loudly by corporations or private citizens when we have so much misgendering going on.

Was told last Friday at a bar by an apparent gay dude that being gay and hearing the word fag is the equal to black people having went through slavery. He lost that debate.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 02, 2023, 08:20:29 AM
Was told last Friday at a bar by an apparent gay dude that being gay and hearing the word fag is the equal to black people having went through slavery. He lost that debate.
Why do cigarettes offend teh gays so much?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 02, 2023, 09:13:44 AM
Why do cigarettes offend teh gays so much?
I know I will regret this but why?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 02, 2023, 09:18:04 AM
Was told last Friday at a bar by an apparent gay dude that being gay and hearing the word fag is the equal to black people having went through slavery. He lost that debate.
How often do you go to gay bars?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 02, 2023, 09:52:50 AM
Why do cigarettes offend teh gays so much?
ok, I got it. It took me a while but I got it.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 02, 2023, 11:20:53 AM
ok, I got it. It took me a while but I got it.

My dumbassery is rubbing off on you. 

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Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 02, 2023, 12:01:46 PM
My dumbassery is rubbing off on you. 

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It’s a shame that Buzz came up with such a good one and I just totally missed it. It’s all on me. What makes it so bad is that it’s very rare for Buzz to have a good one. It could be years before it happens again.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 02, 2023, 01:48:18 PM
Is is true Pornhub switched to a Gay Pride Logo? 

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 02, 2023, 02:00:36 PM
Question for the pole smokers: does it bother you that the x has done nothing to celebrate pride month?

It amazes me that there is an over abundance of knob shiners on here, yet there is never anything done in pride month that is special.

I think that GF was probably getting ready to do something just before he passed away.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 02, 2023, 02:06:23 PM
Is is true Pornhub switched to a Gay Pride Logo? 

 :facepalm:

I am sure I am last to know, but apparently Target has a whole clothing line dedicated to it.  One of the shirts says "Satan Loves Pronouns" or something similar.

Good attempt at trying to get me to look at pron at work.  Only Wes has been successful at that with his Twitter post regarding Jarquez.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 02, 2023, 02:26:05 PM
Question for the pole smokers: does it bother you that the x has done nothing to celebrate pride month?

It amazes me that there is an over abundance of knob shiners on here, yet there is never anything done in pride month that is special.

I think that GF was probably getting ready to do something just before he passed away.

Wait...GF is dead?  Well, cross him of then.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 02, 2023, 02:32:04 PM
Wait...GF is dead?  Well, cross him of then.

Let me get back to you, will ya' Buzz.  I've got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 02, 2023, 07:51:26 PM
How often do you go to gay bars?
We pretty much told him that is where he needed to go. Fag.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: CCTAU on June 02, 2023, 11:32:50 PM
Loudmouth “rainbow warriors” will “fight” for their rights!
Or so I have been told…
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 03, 2023, 07:37:54 AM
Loudmouth “rainbow warriors” will “fight” for their rights!
Or so I have been told…

Wiregrass doesn’t play around with his rights. Mark that down. That’s a warning for all you low brow red necks.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 03, 2023, 08:13:01 AM
Wiregrass doesn’t play around with his rights. Mark that down. That’s a warning for all you low brow red necks.

Thank you for using my pronoun.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 03, 2023, 10:36:56 AM
On a briefly serious note.  How do you respond to this whole thing? 

When I get messages from companies pumping this stuff, I unsubscribe from their feeds. 

If I walk into a store and it's up front and in my face? I walk right back out.  It's not a boycott, it's a personal decision.  Took my dog Petco to get her claws clipped and her hair trimmed up last week. The entire front of the store is covered up in gay dog merchandise. There are no fucking gay dogs. I canceled the appointment and will go somewhere else for those services.

I love Brooks shoes. From the first day I put them on, the arch and heel pain that was killing me disappeared. I've had to stop buying them, though.  Last year was the killer for me.  They usually do a Fourth of July themed shoe. Last year they did not. When I asked why, their marketing department cited distribution issues. That didn't stop them from releasing three different special issue gay-themed shoes over the year.  They canceled America, but let the gay flag fly. Can't abide that.

I said from the beginning and it's documented here that normalizing abnormal behavior was a slippery slope that would lead to just what we're seeing now.  I'm not one to boycott or call for any kind of organized reaction, but I have a choice where I spend my money.  I don't spend it with companies that push this kind of stuff. 

Sorry Pornhub. You're out. (I honestly hope that's not a real thing. Surely of all places, PH wouldn't paint in rainbow colors).   
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 03, 2023, 12:45:42 PM
I’ve seen boy dogs corn hole each other. It seemed pretty gay to me. Kidding, kind of.

I don’t watch Porn anymore (7 years clean), but I imagine they cater to all demographics, so them celebrating anything taboo or hedonistic doesn’t surprise me.

I don’t know if it’s the right answer, but I follow my personal convictions and don’t worry about other people. Even if places like Brooks or Target have specific lines dedicated to it, just don’t buy that shit. They'll either see that it’s not a high volume mover and discontinue, or they will bleed profits for the sake of worldly virtue signaling. Either way, in the words of Charles Manson, “It don’t wrinkle my forehead none.”
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 03, 2023, 01:53:15 PM
If this gives you any consternation at all, you're a jackass.

Fuck's sake, grow up you grievance babies.  Nothing is being taken from you.  Life isn't a zero sum game.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 03, 2023, 02:38:10 PM
If this gives you any consternation at all, you're a jackass.

Fuck's sake, grow up you grievance babies.  Nothing is being taken from you.  Life isn't a zero sum game.

Doesn’t bother me any.  Just not going to March in any parades, buy any shit, or celebrate it.  Wouldn’t judge any of you if you did, just not my cup of tea.

 If that makes me a jackass, then call me Johnny Knoxville.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 03, 2023, 03:15:48 PM
If this gives you any consternation at all, you're a jackass.

Fuck's sake, grow up you grievance babies.  Nothing is being taken from you.  Life isn't a zero sum game.

Says the guy who unabashedly supports the side that sky screams and refuses to eat chick fil a; the side that claims to want acceptance while demanding acquiescence; the side that claims it isn't targeting children, while it openly and blatantly targets children.

Yes, something is being taken from us.   You're damn straight something is being taken from us.   That side is stealing our children and grandchildren. It's brainwashing them; stealing our right as parents and grandparents to raise our children with the morality and religion we support; robbing us of basic decency and morality.

Here's what you and your ilk will never understand.  I don't give a fuck what you do.  I don't care if you've got a menagerie in your basement and you take turns fucking everything from birds to bees to barbary apes.  That's your business. It becomes mine when you attempt to prove to my children that your ways are normal and should be embraced when your way is counter to my beliefs - and then when you scream at the sky, brand me as a  -phobe, an -ism or a bigot because I reject your ways.

What you also fail to comprehend is that the money I spend is mine.  Not yours. If I choose not to contribute to an organization that promotes values with which I don't agree, that's my business and mine alone.  If I choose not to patronize stores who promote values with which I don't agree or contribute to causes which are opposed to my personal beliefs?  That's also my business. 

I don't agree with the current agenda that promotes transgenderism in children as a natural or normal thing. It's not. A one-year old, a ten-year old, a 14-year old do not have the mental capacity or understanding to make those kinds of decisions.  If they can't walk into a store and buy cigarettes and alcohol (and the parents can be prosecuted for providing either), they can't walk into a clinic and ask for their dick to be cut off, even if Facebook Mary tearfully praises their "courage."  The parents who allow or promote that are sick and should be in a mental institution.
 
I am vehemently opposed to the idea that drag queens should parade through elementary schools and present their behavior as a normal and acceptable behavior. 

Businesses who embrace that, who use the money I would normally give them to provide funding for those causes can do without my cash.  I will spend it elsewhere.  That's my personal decision.  I'm not calling on anyone to boycott. I am simply making my own choice.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: CCTAU on June 03, 2023, 06:13:46 PM
If this gives you any consternation at all, you're a jackass.

Fuck's sake, grow up you grievance babies.  Nothing is being taken from you.  Life isn't a zero sum game.

May you happily choke on a long one…and one of those hijacked rainbow flags.
I’m waiting for the rainbow warriors to ride up and conquer the rest of us.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2023, 01:09:41 PM
Wiregrass doesn’t play around with his rights. Mark that down. That’s a warning for all you low brow red necks.
^^This. But it’s WiregrassTiger or WT. not just wiregrass. Please.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2023, 01:38:15 PM
If this gives you any consternation at all, you're a jackass.

Fuck's sake, grow up you grievance babies.  Nothing is being taken from you.  Life isn't a zero sum game.
How are you displaying your pride?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2023, 01:41:43 PM
Says the guy who unabashedly supports the side that sky screams and refuses to eat chick fil a; the side that claims to want acceptance while demanding acquiescence; the side that claims it isn't targeting children, while it openly and blatantly targets children.

Yes, something is being taken from us.   You're damn straight something is being taken from us.   That side is stealing our children and grandchildren. It's brainwashing them; stealing our right as parents and grandparents to raise our children with the morality and religion we support; robbing us of basic decency and morality.

Here's what you and your ilk will never understand.  I don't give a fuck what you do.  I don't care if you've got a menagerie in your basement and you take turns fucking everything from birds to bees to barbary apes.  That's your business. It becomes mine when you attempt to prove to my children that your ways are normal and should be embraced when your way is counter to my beliefs - and then when you scream at the sky, brand me as a  -phobe, an -ism or a bigot because I reject your ways.

What you also fail to comprehend is that the money I spend is mine.  Not yours. If I choose not to contribute to an organization that promotes values with which I don't agree, that's my business and mine alone.  If I choose not to patronize stores who promote values with which I don't agree or contribute to causes which are opposed to my personal beliefs?  That's also my business. 

I don't agree with the current agenda that promotes transgenderism in children as a natural or normal thing. It's not. A one-year old, a ten-year old, a 14-year old do not have the mental capacity or understanding to make those kinds of decisions.  If they can't walk into a store and buy cigarettes and alcohol (and the parents can be prosecuted for providing either), they can't walk into a clinic and ask for their dick to be cut off, even if Facebook Mary tearfully praises their "courage."  The parents who allow or promote that are sick and should be in a mental institution.
 
I am vehemently opposed to the idea that drag queens should parade through elementary schools and present their behavior as a normal and acceptable behavior. 

Businesses who embrace that, who use the money I would normally give them to provide funding for those causes can do without my cash.  I will spend it elsewhere.  That's my personal decision.  I'm not calling on anyone to boycott. I am simply making my own choice.
Thee is a lot of truth in what you said but I have to admit that kids are getting sexier earlier and earlier.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2023, 01:43:21 PM
May you happily choke on a long one…and one of those hijacked rainbow flags.
I’m waiting for the rainbow warriors to ride up and conquer the rest of us.
For the record, that was CTE. I don’t want any of them to ride up me.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 04, 2023, 04:37:37 PM
If this gives you any consternation at all, you're a jackass.

Fuck's sake, grow up you grievance babies.  Nothing is being taken from you.  Life isn't a zero sum game.

Gaslighting. You do it correctly, I’ll give you that.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 04, 2023, 05:35:10 PM
Gaslighting. You do it correctly, I’ll give you that.

I also think he should talk to:

Mike Lindell
Aunt Jemimah
Uncle Ben
Goya
Chick fil a
JK Rowling
The chick from Mandalorian and Deadpool

Or any of thousands of others who had the temerity to express a thought that didn’t kowtow to perverted groupthink and had their lives destroyed. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2023, 07:51:00 PM
I also think he should talk to:

Mike Lindell
Aunt Jemimah
Uncle Ben
Goya
Chick fil a
JK Rowling
The chick from Mandalorian and Deadpool

Or any of thousands of others who had the temerity to express a thought that didn’t kowtow to perverted groupthink and had their lives destroyed.
I almost got kicked off the x for saying nagger, one time.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 04, 2023, 09:39:31 PM
I almost got kicked off the x for saying nagger, one time.

Well - you do nag quite a bit.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Tokem on June 05, 2023, 12:24:48 PM
I am letting my freak flag fly, guys. I do not care. I’m tired of living a lie.

I hope that all of my brothers and sisters and non binary law enforcement members will join me.

If you work in a jail, too.

Do not be afraid. They cannot fire all of us.

I am making it known today. I am not saying that I for sure suck cock. I am simply saying that it does not matter IF I do and I should not be judged for my orientation.

I also intend to stop shooting unarmed black men as of today.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 05, 2023, 05:13:24 PM
I am letting my freak flag fly, guys. I do not care. I’m tired of living a lie.

I hope that all of my brothers and sisters and non binary law enforcement members will join me.

If you work in a jail, too.

Do not be afraid. They cannot fire all of us.

I am making it known today. I am not saying that I for sure suck cock. I am simply saying that it does not matter IF I do and I should not be judged for my orientation.

I also intend to stop shooting unarmed black men as of today.
I support this decision and I hope you will feel better about yourself.

I hope you will understand that this does not change the fact if you ever do fuck up and make the mistake of trying to take me in that you had better have plenty of back up. And even extra back up.

Attempting to take me in without extra back up would be a terrible mistake. I promise.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 08:51:15 AM
Conservative, Bible Thumping dumbass Kevin O' Leary chimes in.....oh wait, he's Libertarian, and he's not a dumbass. He's also a businessman, and gets it.

Good underrated part of this is bolded.....like he said, diversity, equity - all those buzzwords organically fall under labor laws and the Civil Rights Acts anyway. On their face value, it's not an issue. But at some places that have gone to the extreme, it's what they've done with their power. When you think it's a good idea to market tuck friendly swimsuits to kids, you've gone too far with the core of the American population.

Side note, I was actually unaware of the Mount Rushmore thing. Also nuts.

Quote
Corporate boards long tasked with fiduciary responsibilities to their shareholders are scrutinizing how Target allowed itself to become embroiled in social scandal big enough to cause a nearly $15 billion loss in market cap, "Shark Tank" star investor Kevin O'Leary told Fox News on Monday.

Since the backlash over its Pride merchandising controversy, Target's market value has fallen over $13 billion to $60.24 billion as of Monday's closing price. O'Leary, head of O'Leary Ventures, said the future is likely to bring a complete change in how corporate America approaches certain concerns like the processes that led to Target's "unprecedented" cliff-dive.

"On one hand, companies want to show their support of diversity in all the mandates that society is discussing openly," he said on "Jesse Watters Primetime." On the other hand, the job of a business -- particularly from the perspective of an investor -- and those that are retired, for example, that own the S&P 500 or own Target stock – are concerned that maybe they're losing their way in terms of what the prime objective is: your customers, your employees, and your shareholders."

"And so if you start to get too distant or too far away from the primary mandate, the market has proven itself to really, really punish you. And it's woken up all kinds of boards," O'Leary stressed.

The Minneapolis-based big-box retailer waded into controversial waters recently as its "tuck-friendly" swimwear geared toward the transgender community led to nationwide outrage.

That fallout was compounded by a Fox News Digital investigation that found its nonprofit foundation – directed by its senior corporate treasurers – funded an entity seeking to cede United States territory including Mount Rushmore, over claims it is a symbol of White supremacy, and sought to demilitarize the armed forces due to concerns of its "violen[ce]."

O'Leary suggested much of the furor was intensified by how fast the news of Target's behavior spread on social media – adding that many corporate boards don't always take into account the power of viral word-of-mouth.

"When you can't control the message anymore through social media, which is clearly obvious, you better figure out what message you're putting out before it ever gets out there," he said.

"We almost need a new committee on boards. We have committees for risk… compensation -- We've got compliance committees. We need a communications/media committee to advise the rest of the board who don't even have Twitter accounts or don't have Facebook or don't use LinkedIn."

O'Leary said many boards still don't understand the "risks inherent" of what they're doing in an age of instantaneous social media communication.

He pointed to Anheuser-Busch, which he noted built Bud Light to be America's top-selling beer in its category over decades, only to see the brand destroyed in "32 hours" after it partnered with transgender socialite Dylan Mulvaney.

O'Leary concluded that diversity officers will continue to be part of corporate boards, and that the issue is what they are doing with their power and their appropriations.

"I don't think you're going to find a lot of people saying, 'oh, let's not have diversity officers'. But what they do with their budgets now really matter and the risks they're putting the company into because of the power of uncontrolled social media is obviously measurable," he said.


"When you lose $11 billion of market cap, there're a lot of unhappy cowboys out there. They're called your investors."

He speculated that Target CEO Brian Cornell had no idea about the anti-Mount Rushmore appropriation.

Shortly before O'Leary's comments, Elon Musk publicly predicted class-action lawsuits by Target shareholders, in response to a report by conservative commentator Charlie Kirk that JPMorgan just downgraded the company's stock.


Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 06, 2023, 08:51:54 AM
Attempting to take me in without extra back up would be a terrible mistake. I promise.

All I hear is that you want him and his buddies to run a train on you.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 08:58:31 AM
All I hear is that you want him and his buddies to run a train on you.
That’s one way to show pride.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 06, 2023, 09:01:37 AM
Conservative, Bible Thumping dumbass Kevin O' Leary chimes in.....oh wait, he's Libertarian, and he's not a dumbass. He's also a businessman, and gets it.

Good underrated part of this is bolded.....like he said, diversity, equity - all those buzzwords organically fall under labor laws and the Civil Rights Acts anyway. On their face value, it's not an issue. But at some places that have gone to the extreme, it's what they've done with their power. When you think it's a good idea to market tuck friendly swimsuits to kids, you've gone too far with the core of the American population.

Side note, I was actually unaware of the Mount Rushmore thing. Also nuts.

So...the issue isn't that Target and Busch kowtowed to a very vocal minority, not thinking about the backlash from the majority.  It was social media's fault.  Got it.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 09:16:09 AM
I volunteer to take over social media for the x. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, everything. I will create a buzz.

Sorry, Buzz.

Let’s face it. There is really no other choice. The first criteria is being likable. That scratches  every other conceivable candidate.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 09:47:18 AM
So...the issue isn't that Target and Busch kowtowed to a very vocal minority, not thinking about the backlash from the majority.  It was social media's fault.  Got it.

No, I don't think that's what he is saying at all. I think he is saying they are being 1. extremely naive and obtuse to a lot of these extreme decisions they are making and 2. the far reaching impact of them when they are made. It's two fold. It's already just dumb....social media simply amplifies that. They are tone deaf to both.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 10:20:03 AM
market tuck friendly swimsuits to kids

Patently false.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 10:23:18 AM
Patently false.
What is false about this?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 10:28:35 AM
Patently false.

keep towing that company line...bro.

Yeah we can get into semantics here if you want - yes, the swimsuits were for adults. Placed right next to clothes and other items for kids. At the front of the store (since removed from many).

But overall? You're missing the bigger point. You have an outside view of this not having young kids who see this stuff day in and day out. But the business side of this was the bigger point being made here.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 10:29:07 AM
What is false about this?

hes "lawyersmithing" the words. He knows this.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 10:35:17 AM
hes "lawyersmithing" the words. He knows this.
If claiming it’s not targeting kids, then why call it “tomboy”?

They were going after kids. Obviously, they didn’t specifically say that.

I’m not against tucking underwear. I’d like some for myself.

Not for the same reason that Wes supports it. Simply to camouflage my enormous dong so that it won’t be so obvious.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 10:47:11 AM
keep towing that company line...bro.

Yeah we can get into semantics here if you want - yes, the swimsuits were for adults. Placed right next to clothes and other items for kids. At the front of the store (since removed from many).

But overall? You're missing the bigger point. You have an outside view of this not having young kids who see this stuff day in and day out. But the business side of this was the bigger point being made here.

Do you know the purpose of the little tuck pouch?  It's not trans-focused. 

And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 10:55:42 AM
Do you know the purpose of the little tuck pouch?  It's not trans-focused. 

And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.
Whose tuck pouch are you calling little? Maybe yours, sure.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: chinook on June 06, 2023, 11:10:10 AM
Conservative, Bible Thumping dumbass Kevin O' Leary chimes in.....oh wait, he's Libertarian, and he's not a dumbass. He's also a businessman, and gets it.

Good underrated part of this is bolded.....like he said, diversity, equity - all those buzzwords organically fall under labor laws and the Civil Rights Acts anyway. On their face value, it's not an issue. But at some places that have gone to the extreme, it's what they've done with their power. When you think it's a good idea to market tuck friendly swimsuits to kids, you've gone too far with the core of the American population.

Side note, I was actually unaware of the Mount Rushmore thing. Also nuts.

not sure i got a lot out of the article other than diversity boards are made up of everyone but white, conservative and practical minded people. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 11:14:28 AM
not sure i got a lot out of the article other than diversity boards are made up of everyone but white, conservative and practical minded people.

Some of them are abusing their power - being driven by ideology. And it's costing them. That's what I got.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 11:17:25 AM
And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.

you may want to do a little research on retail psychology and marketing especially when it comes to kids. It's been happening in the cereal aisle for decades, although mostly harmless....even small details like colors, shelf heights.....they know what they're doing. The product doesn't have to be for kids, to be marketed towards kids. Normalization is the goal here. Don't be an oblivion.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 11:18:25 AM
you may want to do a little research on retail psychology and marketing especially when it comes to kids. It's been happening in the cereal aisle for decades, although mostly harmless....even small details like colors, shelf heights.....they know what they're doing. The product doesn't have to be for kids, to be marketed towards kids. Normalization is the goal here. Don't be an oblivion.

What product terrifies you for the kids' sake?  The adult female swimsuit that has had the same design for decades?  That was the detail you latched onto: the "tuck" pouch...designed for adult women's genitals.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: chinook on June 06, 2023, 11:18:34 AM
Do you know the purpose of the little tuck pouch?  It's not trans-focused. 

And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.

please tell. 

regardless of it all it did no favors to Target. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: chinook on June 06, 2023, 11:19:48 AM
Some of them are abusing their power - being driven by ideology. And it's costing them. That's what I got.

wasn't serious. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 11:43:51 AM
What product terrifies you for the kids' sake?  The adult female swimsuit that has had the same design for decades?  That was the detail you latched onto: the "tuck" pouch...designed for adult women's genitals.
That would have to be one hell of a clit.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2023, 11:54:25 AM
That would have to be one hell of a clit.

The little man in the canoe.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 11:57:17 AM
What product terrifies you for the kids' sake?  The adult female swimsuit that has had the same design for decades?  That was the detail you latched onto: the "tuck" pouch...designed for adult women's genitals.

if its that normal, then why a special section? Why the overreaching attention in a huge display at the front of a store? It had a purpose whether you wanted it or not... I have never in my life seen a label getting into the details of tucking genitals. But.....

The real question here because I know you aren't dumb Wes.....do you honestly think they did NOTHING wrong - from a cultural standpoint or a business standpoint? Is the market capitalization drop just pretend and is everyone else just wrong, and you and this small minority right?

"How" it was presented was a dumb dumb idea for the very reasons O'Leary pointed out. I don't knee jerk to teeny nothing burgers. A lot of the fringe MAGA crowd on social media with the "fuel on fire" pundits (Shapiro, Kirk, Loomer) DO tend to do that. I do think Target took it too far in HOW they decided to do this. Front, Center, Loudly.

That's all I'm sayin my dude.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 12:07:12 PM
if its that normal, then why a special section? Why the overreaching attention in a huge display at the front of a store? It had a purpose whether you wanted it or not...

The Pride section?  Because lots of people celebrate. 

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I have never in my life seen a label getting into the details of tucking genitals. But.....
 

I worked retail at Alvin's Island as a teen.  I was in the swimwear department on the daily.  I have heard/seen the discussions about how to use the pouch passed on from mom/older sister to daughter/younger sister.

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The real question here because I know you aren't dumb Wes.....do you honestly think they did NOTHING wrong - from a cultural standpoint or a business standpoint? Is the market capitalization drop just pretend and is everyone else just wrong, and you and this small minority right?

I'm still at a loss to understand what the perceived "wrong" is. 


Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 12:12:23 PM
I'm still at a loss to understand what the perceived "wrong" is.

It's an unprecedented market drop. That's way more than a fringe, knee jerk MAGA crowd doing that.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 12:13:47 PM
It's an unprecedented market drop. That's way more than a fringe, knee jerk MAGA crowd doing that.

Honestly trying to flesh our your grievance here.  Who's wronged?  The corporation?  The shareholders? 

Re-read your post above.  No, I don't think there is any "cultural" wrong being committed here.  I'll let you address the business aspect.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 12:44:57 PM
The Pride section?  Because lots of people celebrate. 
 

I worked retail at Alvin's Island as a teen.  I was in the swimwear department on the daily.  I have heard/seen the discussions about how to use the pouch passed on from mom/older sister to daughter/younger sister.

I'm still at a loss to understand what the perceived "wrong" is.
what in the fuck does this mean? Are you using the correct pronouns?

How can a daughter use a tuck pouch? Unless it’s an abnormally huge clit.

Re the stock loss, someone is responsible for a shitty campaign. Just like the bud light fag on a can. If it fucks with the stock price, the investors care.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 02:14:26 PM
Do you know the purpose of the little tuck pouch?  It's not trans-focused. 

BTDubbs, conservative stalwart outlet USAToday (sarcasm intended) doesn't agree with you here....

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Target is facing conservative backlash due to its LGBTQ pride month section and is pulling some pride merchandise from its stores in response. The "tuck-friendly" swimsuit, made for those who are transgender, is one such item that has sparked outrage online.

Though some of the swimsuits shown on the Target rack in the Instagram video appear quite small alongside the larger sizes, they aren't children's swimsuits.



While another conservative outlet, DailyMailUK provided this info on the maker of them...

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Some Southern stores were forced to move merchandise - which were designed by Erik Carnell, a transgender man and self-proclaimed Satanist - to the back of stores.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 06, 2023, 02:44:48 PM
Wes is wrong.

Water remains wet. 

The neverending story just keeps rolling on. 



Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 02:45:23 PM
BTDubbs, conservative stalwart outlet USAToday (sarcasm intended) doesn't agree with you here....



While another conservative outlet, DailyMailUK provided this info on the maker of them...

Is it useful for that purpose?  I guess.  Did somebody update it for that purpose?  Fuck if I know.

I just know the design has been around at least as long as I've been around.

So I'm back to asking: what's the big fucking deal?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 06, 2023, 03:03:11 PM
Is it useful for that purpose?  I guess.  Did somebody update it for that purpose?  Fuck if I know.

I just know the design has been around at least as long as I've been around.

So I'm back to asking: what's the big fucking deal?

I raised a houseful of girls. I've been married plenty.   

No, that's NOT a normal, natural, regular thing in swimwear, I don't care what you think you overheard while peeping through the crack in the changing room door and jerking off to bloated, sunburned Tennessee hillbillies trying to squeeze their mounds of cottage cheese into medium-sized swimsuits.

You know it's a big fucking deal.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 03:18:14 PM
I raised a houseful of girls. I've been married plenty.   

No, that's NOT a normal, natural, regular thing in swimwear, I don't care what you think you overheard while peeping through the crack in the changing room door and jerking off to bloated, sunburned Tennessee hillbillies trying to squeeze their mounds of cottage cheese into medium-sized swimsuits.

You know it's a big fucking deal.

It's obviously a big deal to a LOT of people. This isn't a fringe overreaction by people who: didn't shop there or own shares anyway. The middle of the country has spoken. Shareholders have spoken.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 03:32:04 PM
I raised a houseful of girls. I've been married plenty.   

No, that's NOT a normal, natural, regular thing in swimwear, I don't care what you think you overheard while peeping through the crack in the changing room door and jerking off to bloated, sunburned Tennessee hillbillies trying to squeeze their mounds of cottage cheese into medium-sized swimsuits.

You know it's a big fucking deal.
I just tossed off to the naughty hillbillie bitch with the cottage cheese.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 03:55:02 PM
Shareholders have spoken.

These are the only people with a "grievance" if there was any financial hit to Target.  And they aren't passive, agent-less victims.  You don't like the way your corporation is being run, vote your shares.  I haven't been paying attention to this tempest in a teapot, so I don't know if any executive changes have been made.

Here are Target's shareholders.  These are the votes that count.  Everyone else can, in the opinion of the board, pound sand:

Capital Research & Management Co.   136,750,350   29.7%
The Vanguard Group, Inc.   40,327,479   8.76%
Capital Research & Management Co. (World Investors)   36,087,765   7.84%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc.   34,570,634   7.51%
BNP Paribas Securities Corp.   20,851,210   4.53%
BlackRock Fund Advisors   10,131,006   2.20%
Massachusetts Financial Services Co.   8,501,623   1.85%
Geode Capital Management LLC   8,300,283   1.80%
Pershing Square Capital Management LP   7,399,622   1.61%
Wells Fargo Clearing Services LLC   6,638,025   1.44%
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: chinook on June 06, 2023, 04:10:13 PM
These are the only people with a "grievance" if there was any financial hit to Target.  And they aren't passive, agent-less victims.  You don't like the way your corporation is being run, vote your shares.  I haven't been paying attention to this tempest in a teapot, so I don't know if any executive changes have been made.

Here are Target's shareholders.  These are the votes that count.  Everyone else can, in the opinion of the board, pound sand:

Capital Research & Management Co.   136,750,350   29.7%
The Vanguard Group, Inc.   40,327,479   8.76%
Capital Research & Management Co. (World Investors)   36,087,765   7.84%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc.   34,570,634   7.51%
BNP Paribas Securities Corp.   20,851,210   4.53%
BlackRock Fund Advisors   10,131,006   2.20%
Massachusetts Financial Services Co.   8,501,623   1.85%
Geode Capital Management LLC   8,300,283   1.80%
Pershing Square Capital Management LP   7,399,622   1.61%
Wells Fargo Clearing Services LLC   6,638,025   1.44%

what you are failing to grasp are the 401k retirees with pitchforks outside the edward jones office demanding action. 
lawsuits forthcoming.

you were wrong about budlight...you'll be wrong about this one too. 

Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 04:27:13 PM
what you are failing to grasp are the 401k retirees with pitchforks outside the edward jones office demanding action. 
lawsuits forthcoming.

you were wrong about budlight...you'll be wrong about this one too.

What lawsuits?  Seriously...point me to some.

And more importantly:  On what fucking basis?  The corporate execs have broad discretion under the "Business Judgment" Rule. 

This is all so fucking dumb.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: CCTAU on June 06, 2023, 04:29:30 PM
I love this. It lets the deviants know that the county is NOT with them. They think because they are the loudest that others agree with them. They are finding that is not the case.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2023, 04:46:21 PM
I believe the biggest issue here is the way transgenderism (Is that a word?) is being force-fed to the public.  Yes, it’s Pride Month, if that’s your thing.  Who cares?  Sometimes, I find it almost comical when somebody announces they’re, “coming out”, as if that’s necessary. But the transgender thing is something else altogether, and I believe Target lumping it in with the Pride merch may be at the root of the uproar. (I said root)

Trans has become a huge hot button controversy across the country.  You have biological males competing in girl’s and women’s sports, from swimming, to track, and even MMA fighting.  Riley Gaines has become an activist for women’s sports, and is speaking out across the country, after she lost to biological male, Lia Thomas, in swimming.  She knows he is a biological male, because he undressed in the girls locker room in front of all the female swimmers. And more and more stories come out about biological males sharing girl’s locker rooms and bathrooms, both in schools, and in public.

States are divided, with some banning biological males competing in women’s sports, while others are threatening to withhold Federal funding if schools in that State don’t allow it.  There have been countless lawsuits filed over the issue.  Then you take it a step further, with the issue of what age should a child be allowed to go through gender affirming surgeries.  You can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol at age 14, but you can make the decision to have your dick cut off?   

So many more examples of what’s going on, and people are very passionate about it.  Does dressing up like a woman, and calling yourself a woman affect me?  Nope.  You do you. But if you go in the same locker room as my daughter, and whip your junk out, and claim it’s okay because you “identify” a certain way, now we have a problem.  Ultimately, I think people see Target and Bud Light etc. as promoting something they are vehemently opposed to.  They may just be going over the top with trying to be all about diversity and inclusion.  But people are obviously not taking it that way.   
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 06, 2023, 04:50:52 PM
I believe the biggest issue here is the way transgenderism (Is that a word?) is being force-fed to the public.  Yes, it’s Pride Month, if that’s your thing.  Who cares?  Sometimes, I find it almost comical when somebody announces they’re, “coming out”, as if that’s necessary. But the transgender thing is something else altogether, and I believe Target lumping it in with the Pride merch may be at the root of the uproar. (I said root)

Trans has become a huge hot button controversy across the country.  You have biological males competing in girl’s and women’s sports, from swimming, to track, and even MMA fighting.  Riley Gaines has become an activist for women’s sports, and is speaking out across the country, after she lost to biological male, Lia Thomas, in swimming.  She knows he is a biological male, because he undressed in the girls locker room in front of all the female swimmers. And more and more stories come out about biological males sharing girl’s locker rooms and bathrooms, both in schools, and in public.

States are divided, with some banning biological males competing in women’s sports, while others are threatening to withhold Federal funding if schools in that State don’t allow it.  There have been countless lawsuits filed over the issue.  Then you take it a step further, with the issue of what age should a child be allowed to go through gender affirming surgeries.  You can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol at age 14, but you can make the decision to have your dick cut off?   

So many more examples of what’s going on, and people are very passionate about it.  Does dressing up like a woman, and calling yourself a woman affect me?  Nope.  You do you. But if you go in the same locker room as my daughter, and whip your junk out, and claim it’s okay because you “identify” a certain way, now we have a problem.  Ultimately, I think people see Target and Bud Light etc. as promoting something they are vehemently opposed to.  They may just be going over the top with trying to be all about diversity and inclusion.  But people are obviously not taking it that way.

Starting a slow clap on this post, just like gonorrhea.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
I believe the biggest issue here is the way transgenderism (Is that a word?) is being force-fed to the public.  Yes, it’s Pride Month, if that’s your thing.  Who cares?  Sometimes, I find it almost comical when somebody announces they’re, “coming out”, as if that’s necessary. But the transgender thing is something else altogether, and I believe Target lumping it in with the Pride merch may be at the root of the uproar. (I said root)

Trans has become a huge hot button controversy across the country.  You have biological males competing in girl’s and women’s sports, from swimming, to track, and even MMA fighting.  Riley Gaines has become an activist for women’s sports, and is speaking out across the country, after she lost to biological male, Lia Thomas, in swimming.  She knows he is a biological male, because he undressed in the girls locker room in front of all the female swimmers. And more and more stories come out about biological males sharing girl’s locker rooms and bathrooms, both in schools, and in public.

States are divided, with some banning biological males competing in women’s sports, while others are threatening to withhold Federal funding if schools in that State don’t allow it.  There have been countless lawsuits filed over the issue.  Then you take it a step further, with the issue of what age should a child be allowed to go through gender affirming surgeries.  You can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol at age 14, but you can make the decision to have your dick cut off?   

So many more examples of what’s going on, and people are very passionate about it.  Does dressing up like a woman, and calling yourself a woman affect me?  Nope.  You do you. But if you go in the same locker room as my daughter, and whip your junk out, and claim it’s okay because you “identify” a certain way, now we have a problem.  Ultimately, I think people see Target and Bud Light etc. as promoting something they are vehemently opposed to.  They may just be going over the top with trying to be all about diversity and inclusion.  But people are obviously not taking it that way.

Well that's certainly what they're selling to you guys.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 05:01:44 PM
I believe the biggest issue here is the way transgenderism (Is that a word?) is being force-fed to the public.  Yes, it’s Pride Month, if that’s your thing.  Who cares?  Sometimes, I find it almost comical when somebody announces they’re, “coming out”, as if that’s necessary. But the transgender thing is something else altogether, and I believe Target lumping it in with the Pride merch may be at the root of the uproar. (I said root)

Trans has become a huge hot button controversy across the country.  You have biological males competing in girl’s and women’s sports, from swimming, to track, and even MMA fighting.  Riley Gaines has become an activist for women’s sports, and is speaking out across the country, after she lost to biological male, Lia Thomas, in swimming.  She knows he is a biological male, because he undressed in the girls locker room in front of all the female swimmers. And more and more stories come out about biological males sharing girl’s locker rooms and bathrooms, both in schools, and in public.

States are divided, with some banning biological males competing in women’s sports, while others are threatening to withhold Federal funding if schools in that State don’t allow it.  There have been countless lawsuits filed over the issue.  Then you take it a step further, with the issue of what age should a child be allowed to go through gender affirming surgeries.  You can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol at age 14, but you can make the decision to have your dick cut off?   

So many more examples of what’s going on, and people are very passionate about it.  Does dressing up like a woman, and calling yourself a woman affect me?  Nope.  You do you. But if you go in the same locker room as my daughter, and whip your junk out, and claim it’s okay because you “identify” a certain way, now we have a problem.  Ultimately, I think people see Target and Bud Light etc. as promoting something they are vehemently opposed to.  They may just be going over the top with trying to be all about diversity and inclusion.  But people are obviously not taking it that way.
I just know you’d try to do the Bud Light dude.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2023, 05:03:42 PM
I just know you’d try to do the Bud Light dude.

It depends on how many drinks he bought me.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2023, 05:09:05 PM
Well that's certainly what they're selling to you guys.

Just an observation.  The trans dealio is seriously polarizing.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 06, 2023, 05:11:51 PM
Just an observation.  The trans dealio is seriously polarizing.

Just as it was when they aimed the same lame accusations at the gays.

And before that it was the black and brown folk.

It's a shitty playbook that they keep trotting out to cover for a lack of popular policy.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 05:49:48 PM
Just as it was when they aimed the same lame accusations at the gays.

And before that it was the black and brown folk.

It's a shitty playbook that they keep trotting out to cover for a lack of popular policy.
Because letting a 10 year old decide to cut his dick off is just the same as blacks not being able to use the “whites only” water fountain?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 06, 2023, 06:10:29 PM
Sometimes, I find it almost comical when somebody announces they’re, “coming out”, as if that’s necessary.

I rarely announced when I was "coming in."  That led to a surprise here and there.  Usually a good one.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 06:12:01 PM
Well that's certainly what they're selling to you guys.

See, that's a huge assumption right there. You can't just chalk it up to ole Prowler standby of "THATS WHAT FOXNEWS AND NEWSMAX IS TELLING YOU TO THINK!!"....I see the little alt right weirdos get off on their high horse all the time about nothing burgers. I don't deny those guys can be touched but this one is a little more mainstream and has some merit to many people. It may shock you to know that some people actually do critically think for themselves on issues like these.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 06, 2023, 06:13:29 PM
Just as it was when they aimed the same lame accusations at the gays.

And before that it was the black and brown folk.

It's a shitty playbook that they keep trotting out to cover for a lack of popular policy.

Oh sweet Jesus.  Go fuck yourself with this shit. 

There's a shitload of difference between those two examples and Joe Ballzancocks popping into a girl's lockerroom. 

Have kids.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 06:14:14 PM
What lawsuits?  Seriously...point me to some.

And more importantly:  On what fucking basis?  The corporate execs have broad discretion under the "Business Judgment" Rule. 

This is all so fucking dumb.

It's humans disagreeing on what some other humans are doing..both sides have their argument. Welcome to the planet Wes. Seriously.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2023, 06:15:49 PM
Because letting a 10 year old decide to cut his dick off is just the same as blacks not being able to use the “whites only” water fountain?

I wasn't joking when a gay dude told me that a week ago....he literally said being gay/trans and all that goes with it was the same as black people being enslaved with 0 human rights. I almost thought he was being sarcastic. He was not.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2023, 08:31:34 PM

Have kids.
Wes has a uterus?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: CCTAU on June 07, 2023, 12:27:48 AM
See, that's a huge assumption right there. You can't just chalk it up to ole Prowler standby of "THATS WHAT FOXNEWS AND NEWSMAX IS TELLING YOU TO THINK!!"....I see the little alt right weirdos get off on their high horse all the time about nothing burgers. I don't deny those guys can be touched but this one is a little more mainstream and has some merit to many people. It may shock you to know that some people actually do critically think for themselves on issues like these.

They think because they get the media to let them scream louder that they have support. Keep in mind, even California voted down gay marriage. They don’t have near the support they think. I love the fact that normal people have had enough. It’s time.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 07:23:05 AM
Wes has a uterus?

He’s got a vagina, so….
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 07, 2023, 09:50:04 AM
It's humans disagreeing on what some other humans are doing..both sides have their argument. Welcome to the planet Wes. Seriously.

No problem with disagreement.  It's the pants-shitting meltdowns so they can go viral wrecking a store display that's so fucking dumb.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 07, 2023, 09:56:11 AM
See, that's a huge assumption right there. You can't just chalk it up to ole Prowler standby of "THATS WHAT FOXNEWS AND NEWSMAX IS TELLING YOU TO THINK!!"....I see the little alt right weirdos get off on their high horse all the time about nothing burgers. I don't deny those guys can be touched but this one is a little more mainstream and has some merit to many people. It may shock you to know that some people actually do critically think for themselves on issues like these.

Let's take a moment for some self-reflection.  We can start in this thread.  You brought up the "spectacle" of the display at Target with trans-wear for kids.  When pressed you said:

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Yeah we can get into semantics here if you want - yes, the swimsuits were for adults.

Then if you recall after one of the mass school shootings (can't recall which because that's our fave pasttime these days) a big deal was made about a clip of Biden talking about ice cream.  Cue the frothing!  When I pointed out that it wasn't a press spot for the news item, but a stop at an SBA function for woman-owned business the frothing abated.

You guys say you're not led around by right-wing news outlets, but you play Charlie Brown to their Lucy a little too often.



Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2023, 10:44:20 AM
Let's take a moment for some self-reflection.  We can start in this thread.  You brought up the "spectacle" of the display at Target with trans-wear for kids.  When pressed you said:

Then if you recall after one of the mass school shootings (can't recall which because that's our fave pasttime these days) a big deal was made about a clip of Biden talking about ice cream.  Cue the frothing!  When I pointed out that it wasn't a press spot for the news item, but a stop at an SBA function for woman-owned business the frothing abated.

You guys say you're not led around by right-wing news outlets, but you play Charlie Brown to their Lucy a little too often.

That was my frothing, and I owned it afterward.  I came in at lunch, and Snagette had the news on, not Fox BTW. It was wall to wall Nashville shooting coverage, and then they switched to a scene of Biden walking out into a room, and the anchor said, "Let's go to the President".  He starts laughing and talking about ice cream.  I honestly thought the guy was coming out to make remarks on the shooting.  Apparently, a lot of other people had the same thought.

FWIW, I swore off all cable news outlets, and most network news coverage way back. Worn out on the 24/7 blatant bias on both sides.  I check out our local news some, and scan the interwebz for my info. I kind of like thinking for myself.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 07, 2023, 12:41:07 PM
Just as it was when they aimed the same lame accusations at the gays.

For me, I have two issues, and I don't think any of them are the same as letting someone drink from a water fountain or where someone can sit on a bus.  Hell, I don't even care who people date or marry.

1) I disagree with any type of hormone blockers or gender surgery until 18 years old.  We don't allow LASIK until someone is 18.  Boob jobs are 18 or 22.  I think we should treat any sort of gender care as the same.
2) I disagree with people who are men competing in women's sports.  Should add that in pre-k, kindergarten level, I'm fine with co-ed sports like basketball or soccer.  I'm talking more Junior High and above.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: wesfau2 on June 07, 2023, 12:47:57 PM
For me, I have two issues, and I don't think any of them are the same as letting someone drink from a water fountain or where someone can sit on a bus.  Hell, I don't even care who people date or marry.

1) I disagree with any type of hormone blockers or gender surgery until 18 years old.  We don't allow LASIK until someone is 18.  Boob jobs are 18 or 22.  I think we should treat any sort of gender care as the same.
2) I disagree with people who are men competing in women's sports.  Should add that in pre-k, kindergarten level, I'm fine with co-ed sports like basketball or soccer.  I'm talking more Junior High and above.

Fair enough. 

As to #1...I end up the same place I end up with abortion: those decisions are between patients/doctors/parents.  I'm staying out of their business if they're staying out of mine.

As to #2, this is such an overblown problem as to be ridiculous.  The trans athletes are outnumbered exponentially.  The rare occurrence of this "competitive disadvantage" is hyped up redmeat for the base.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 01:10:41 PM
No problem with disagreement.  It's the pants-shitting meltdowns so they can go viral wrecking a store display that's so fucking dumb.

Again....

Let's talk to Mike Lindell, Aunt Jemimah, Uncle Ben, Curt Schilling, the Mandalorian girl, and countless others who have been shouted down or had their livelihoods destroyed. 

Despite what Target claimed, there were NO store displays assaulted by bands of marauding conservatives. None of their employees were threatened.  That was a fabrication and obfuscation to the FINANCIAL fallout from customers walking away.   There were plenty of leftists looting, but those are (d)ifferent, right? 

There have been no "pants shitting meltdowns."  Only groups of like-minded people deciding "this is enough" and choosing to shop elsewhere. 

Your pants seem soiled, however.  Perhaps that's where the smell is coming from. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 01:13:07 PM
Let's take a moment for some self-reflection.  We can start in this thread.  You brought up the "spectacle" of the display at Target with trans-wear for kids.  When pressed you said:

Then if you recall after one of the mass school shootings (can't recall which because that's our fave pasttime these days) a big deal was made about a clip of Biden talking about ice cream.  Cue the frothing!  When I pointed out that it wasn't a press spot for the news item, but a stop at an SBA function for woman-owned business the frothing abated.

You guys say you're not led around by right-wing news outlets, but you play Charlie Brown to their Lucy a little too often.

Classic leftist diversion. 

"Whataboutism" 

Can't address the topic, so let's go "well, whatabout..." 

For the record?  I haven't watched or read anything on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, Newsmax (what is that) or anywhere else since 2020.  I make up my own mind without their influence. 

Maybe you should turn off NPR or something?  Your mind has rotted.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: chinook on June 07, 2023, 01:15:36 PM
Fair enough. 

As to #1...I end up the same place I end up with abortion: those decisions are between patients/doctors/parents.  I'm staying out of their business if they're staying out of mine.

As to #2, this is such an overblown problem as to be ridiculous.  The trans athletes are outnumbered exponentially.  The rare occurrence of this "competitive disadvantage" is hyped up redmeat for the base.

overblown ...nah this needs to be heard and it is being recognized.  outnumbered exponentially for now.  they'll always be outnumbered but for the superior trans athletes that couldn't make it in the male category they'll make ripples and eventually waves.  having a daughter who plays two sports and has voiced her own concerns about "boys" infringing her world...fully respect, agree and support her especially in a competitive position she has spent years to put herself in position to start. 

i'm for making a trans, non-binary category.  let them compete with each other.   
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2023, 01:28:06 PM
overblown ...nah this needs to be heard and it is being recognized.  outnumbered exponentially for now.  they'll always be outnumbered but for the superior trans athletes that couldn't make it in the male category they'll make ripples and eventually waves.  having a daughter who plays two sports and has voiced her own concerns about "boys" infringing her world...fully respect, agree and support her especially in a competitive position she has spent years to put herself in position to start. 

i'm for making a trans, non-binary category.  let them compete with each other.

So what happens when she has to share a locker room with a biological male, and has to accept it because he identifies as a girl? 

One of the swimmers on the Penn team is now speaking out about Lia Thomas and the fact that she and the other girls were told that if they spoke out against it, they would basically be ruined.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 01:30:05 PM
Fair enough. 

As to #1...I end up the same place I end up with abortion: those decisions are between patients/doctors/parents.  I'm staying out of their business if they're staying out of mine.


WRONG.  You, nor the law, would stay out of it if these same Facebook Karens offered their kids alcohol. You, nor the law, would stay out of it if these same Facebook Karens got their child tattooed. Or branded. Or let them be prostitutes. Or let grown men/women (and yes, that's all there is)  have sex with them (I have doubts anybody would do much in these days and times, with a pedo president and a push from entertainment/media, but they should).  Or let them vote. Or let them join the military. Or let them drive a car. Or let them carry/provided them firearms.

Children who do not have the mental capacity to make these decisions should be protected from virtue-signalling, Facebook like craving, moron parents. - and apparently from people like you... by any. means. necessary. 

As to #2, this is such an overblown problem as to be ridiculous.  The trans athletes are outnumbered exponentially.  The rare occurrence of this "competitive disadvantage" is hyped up redmeat for the base.

If you truly believe this, you are dumber than I ever imagined you could possibly be. 

An average high school soccer team would dominate the women's Olympic team.  That's proven.   Whether there's one, or a million, the number does not matter. 

There is an undeniable physical advantage. 

It's like when you write code. You have to account for every eventuality even if its only going to happen once. The result of that eventuality coming to bear, breaks the system.  So you take care if it in advance before it causes problems. 

"Trans" whatevers are not what they are claiming they are.  "Thinking" you are a woman does not make you a woman. Men - biological males - should not be allowed to compete against actual women. 

I'm sorry science apparently baffles you.  I thought we had to follow it.... 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 07, 2023, 01:42:07 PM
i'm for making a trans, non-binary category.  let them compete with each other.

Or they could just play with the sex that matches their chromosomes.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: chinook on June 07, 2023, 01:43:20 PM
So what happens when she has to share a locker room with a biological male, and has to accept it because he identifies as a girl? 

One of the swimmers on the Penn team is now speaking out about Lia Thomas and the fact that she and the other girls were told that if they spoke out against it, they would basically be ruined.

i'm not understanding ...she's against and has been vocal about it.  hopefully there is enough noise to not go there especially at the HS level. 

Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: chinook on June 07, 2023, 01:46:17 PM
Or they could just play with the sex that matches their chromosomes.

if it's a compromise for the confused then so be it...i don't have to watch or cheer.  and won't. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 01:47:48 PM
i'm not understanding ...she's against and has been vocal about it.  hopefully there is enough noise to not go there especially at the HS level.

The "noise" is coming from faux-chicks-with-dicks, brother.  You can bet it's going there at the high school level.  Already has in a lot of places.

And people like one here don't see that as a problem and will agitate for their "right" to do so. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 07, 2023, 02:16:14 PM
The "noise" is coming from faux-chicks-with-dicks, brother.  You can bet it's going there at the high school level.  Already has in a lot of places.

And people like one here don't see that as a problem and will agitate for their "right" to do so.

Happened this year in California.  Two transgirls competed and qualified for state.  Both decided not to participate in the state track meet, citing harassment from conservatives.

I'd have been pissed if I was the parent of one of the two girls who lost out on a spot to go to state.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 02:34:48 PM
Happened this year in California.  Two transgirls competed and qualified for state.  Both decided not to participate in the state track meet, citing harassment from conservatives.

I'd have been pissed if I was the parent of one of the two girls who lost out on a spot to go to state.

They should go to Target!  They have swimsuits specifically made for them! 

And I call bullshit on "harassment"

It's another leftist (communist, socialist) diversion.  Disagreement = Hate.  Discussion = Harassment.  Objection = 'threats' 

They're perfectly free to disagree, rage, froth at the mouth, scream at the sky, castigate anyone who refuses to accept their fantasy as reality.  Anyone who disagrees, however, is branded with a label.  -Phobe. -Ist.  Bigot.


Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2023, 02:43:11 PM
i'm not understanding ...she's against and has been vocal about it.  hopefully there is enough noise to not go there especially at the HS level.

Talking more about Dad here. My kids are grown, but if my daughter was still in HS and some dude was allowed to walk around in the girls locker room, wagging his wanker....
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 07, 2023, 02:46:09 PM
having a daughter who plays two sports and has voiced her own concerns about "boys" infringing her world...fully respect, agree and support her especially in a competitive position she has spent years to put herself in position to start. 

i'm for making a trans, non-binary category.  let them compete with each other.

With Nook here on the daughter part....My daughter ran Varsity Track and XC as a 7th grader and has expressed to me her concern over a possible "male" being on the track with her in a race at some point in the future. As good as many females are and as she is, the males as a whole (even the bottom half) at a Track Meet are a whole other level above the females in speed....It's a real concern too. It's nothing she's gotten listening to me or Fox but more the kids at school chatter and they know what's up with current events. The Riley Gaines thing has spread down to the Varsity HS level as far as them being aware it happened.

Your second sentence above may be the solution.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 07, 2023, 02:49:18 PM
When the left started going so whacked that they started to lose Bill Maher (however u spell his name), you know that they are bat shit over the cliff crazy.

I’m not saying they are all dumb. I am saying that they are bat shit crazy and not good for the America that I know and love. Saying that is considered every kind of ‘ist that exists, today.

But my America is all inclusive. Despite who or what you are. No  individual gets special treatment by the state in this America. Except people who have suffered aneurysms and/or strokes.

The boys competing in girls sporting events are s so fucked up that it’s comical. Unless someone you know is having to suffer from this uneven playing field. Absolutely fucking ridiculous.

The liberals of yesteryear would be up in arms and revolt against such discriminatory conditions.

I believe that Wes or Snags could compete against women and actually win some boxing matches. Some women, I mean. Probably midgets or really super fat ones that can’t walk. The kind on my 600 pound life show. But, that’s how out of kilter it is.

Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 07, 2023, 02:51:13 PM
Talking more about Dad here. My kids are grown, but if my daughter was still in HS and some dude was allowed to walk around in the girls locker room, wagging his wanker....
….you’d say something and get the fuck beat out of you by a kid?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2023, 02:54:44 PM
….you’d say something and get the fuck beat out of you by a kid?

Well, she's a guy, so....
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 07, 2023, 02:58:00 PM


The liberals of yesteryear would be up in arms and revolt against such discriminatory conditions.



Classic Liberalism is NOT Modern Liberalism. The phrase has gotten seriously skewed and perverted since LBJ graced us with his presence and the Kennedys got shot.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 07, 2023, 02:58:19 PM
My Transparent Thoughts:

What baffles me is that we live in a world where many children are worried about where their next meal will come from, and issues like these are where our politicians and corporations want to expend their energy/resources.

I think there is something to be said for the affect all this has socially and culturally. Taking a step back and looking at the big picture, it just pisses me off that this is even a thing any of us have to think about in the first place. Both sides of the argument view it as individual liberties being stripped, or not afforded… I view it as an inconvenient distraction from caring about real world problems.

Just a couple years back, it was essentially accepted fact that people that suffered from gender dysphoria had severe mental issues. This was backed by the high suicide rate that occurred in that small community. Campaigning has pushed against that narrative in an attempt to bring loud, but small fringe groups into the mainstream.  I am not so sure that validating fallacies concerning the fluidity of gender are making things better long-term.

I truly believe in a live & let live philosophy. The problem is that this politicized issue influences public education, freedom of speech (at the rate we are going), and the traditional family unit. This country is in for a rude awakening, and I think we are past the event horizon on the whole ordeal.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 07, 2023, 03:02:24 PM
My Transparent Thoughts:

What baffles me is that we live in a world where many children are worried about where their next meal will come from, and issues like these are where our politicians and corporations want to expend their energy/resources.

I think there is something to be said for the affect all this has socially and culturally. Taking a step back and looking at the big picture, it just pisses me off that this is even a thing any of us have to think about in the first place. Both sides of the argument view it as individual liberties being stripped, or not afforded… I view it as an inconvenient distraction from caring about real world problems.

Just a couple years back, it was essentially accepted fact that people that suffered from gender dysphoria had severe mental issues. This was backed by the high suicide rate that occurred in that small community. Campaigning has pushed against that narrative in an attempt to bring loud, but small fringe groups into the mainstream.  I am not so sure that validating fallacies concerning the fluidity of gender are making things better long-term.

I truly believe in a live & let live philosophy. The problem is that this politicized issue influences public education, freedom of speech (at the rate we are going), and the traditional family unit. This country is in for a rude awakening, and I think we are past the event horizon on the whole ordeal.

Actually agree in principle here Snakey. I say it all the time, that with all the issues in the world, our biggest concern seems to be what your sexual preference is and if you want to cut your genitals off and be the other gender.

Yes, live and let live....but when it comes to the traditional people in society that we have deemed that we must protect because they are not in some way able to do it for themselves or have the ability to rationally decide things- Children, Elderly, Mentally Handicapped (meaning "retarded" or downs syndrome or similar) - that's where the line has to be drawn. No kid can do much of anything without a parent's consent and never has been able to. And there's a reason for that.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: The Six on June 07, 2023, 03:04:04 PM
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Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 03:09:41 PM
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Finally.  A salient point.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 07, 2023, 03:14:34 PM
My Transparent Thoughts:

What baffles me is that we live in a world where many children are worried about where their next meal will come from, and issues like these are where our politicians and corporations want to expend their energy/resources.

I think there is something to be said for the affect all this has socially and culturally. Taking a step back and looking at the big picture, it just pisses me off that this is even a thing any of us have to think about in the first place. Both sides of the argument view it as individual liberties being stripped, or not afforded… I view it as an inconvenient distraction from caring about real world problems.

Just a couple years back, it was essentially accepted fact that people that suffered from gender dysphoria had severe mental issues. This was backed by the high suicide rate that occurred in that small community. Campaigning has pushed against that narrative in an attempt to bring loud, but small fringe groups into the mainstream.  I am not so sure that validating fallacies concerning the fluidity of gender are making things better long-term.

I truly believe in a live & let live philosophy. The problem is that this politicized issue influences public education, freedom of speech (at the rate we are going), and the traditional family unit. This country is in for a rude awakening, and I think we are past the event horizon on the whole ordeal.
You are way too young to be using so much common sense and sound reasoning skills.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 07, 2023, 03:24:56 PM
Actually agree in principle here Snakey. I say it all the time, that with all the issues in the world, our biggest concern seems to be what your sexual preference is and if you want to cut your genitals off and be the other gender.

Yes, live and let live....but when it comes to the traditional people in society that we have deemed that we must protect because they are not in some way able to do it for themselves or have the ability to rationally decide things- Children, Elderly, Mentally Handicapped (meaning "retarded" or downs syndrome or similar) - that's where the line has to be drawn. No kid can do much of anything without a parent's consent and never has been able to. And there's a reason for that.
I think that you are right but I don’t think we can always easily decide who can rationally decide things.

Example: As far as I know, Hamner has never officially been diagnosed as retarded.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2023, 03:27:53 PM
I think that you are right but I don’t think we can always easily decide who can rationally decide things.

Example: As far as I know, Hamner has never officially been diagnosed as retarded.

I touch myself.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: The Six on June 07, 2023, 03:28:16 PM
Finally.  A salient point.

Image link fail.


https://twitter.com/barstoolpat/status/1132031044494999553?s=46&t=KC8gREu9yhhPsJBxCh-GaQ (https://twitter.com/barstoolpat/status/1132031044494999553?s=46&t=KC8gREu9yhhPsJBxCh-GaQ)
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2023, 03:36:59 PM
Funny how it took a post about teh gays to finally get this place rockin' again.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 07, 2023, 03:38:09 PM
My Transparent Thoughts:

What baffles me is that we live in a world where many children are worried about where their next meal will come from, and issues like these are where our politicians and corporations want to expend their energy/resources.

I think there is something to be said for the affect all this has socially and culturally. Taking a step back and looking at the big picture, it just pisses me off that this is even a thing any of us have to think about in the first place. Both sides of the argument view it as individual liberties being stripped, or not afforded… I view it as an inconvenient distraction from caring about real world problems.

Just a couple years back, it was essentially accepted fact that people that suffered from gender dysphoria had severe mental issues. This was backed by the high suicide rate that occurred in that small community. Campaigning has pushed against that narrative in an attempt to bring loud, but small fringe groups into the mainstream.  I am not so sure that validating fallacies concerning the fluidity of gender are making things better long-term.

I truly believe in a live & let live philosophy. The problem is that this politicized issue influences public education, freedom of speech (at the rate we are going), and the traditional family unit. This country is in for a rude awakening, and I think we are past the event horizon on the whole ordeal.

Live and let live just doesn’t work. 

It would if that was the objective. This is the slippery slope Kaos warned you about when it was “just let them get married.”

I said then it wouldn’t end there.  It would lead to attempts to normalize all manner of deviant behavior.  I said then it was a short hop to a demand to accept pedophila.  And here we are. 

This isn’t “let me be” territory.  Make no mistake, we are embroiled in a culture war.  Children are the targets. Preach to them that abnormal behavior is perfectly ok.   Remove parental control and guidance from their realm.

How many times recently has the idiot in chief and his minions told you they aren’t “your children” they are OUR children? 

If you just sit back and say drag queens in vulgar outfits reading to children, parades through elementary schools, counselors pushing sex changes on children, parents allowing kids to be mutilated in search of Facebook likes, men masquerading as women swinging their junk around in women’s locker rooms, etc…. If you say that is none of your business? Then it’s over. 

I struggle with my faith sometimes.  We all do.  But in my heart I feel that as a Christian, one of our most sacred missions is to protect those who who cannot protect themselves.  Children. 

None of my business?  Live and let live? You do you?  That works for adults.  But not for adults promoting that ideology to children. 

We can’t be lazziez-faire about that.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 07, 2023, 03:52:43 PM
I think that you are right but I don’t think we can always easily decide who can rationally decide things.

Example: As far as I know, Hamner has never officially been diagnosed as retarded.

At a minimum it's Children and Mentally Retarded people. That's always been the rule. Anything else is subjective. But I think anyone mentally incapacitated would fall under it too (Dementia, ALS, etc).

And yes he has....I diagnosed him years ago. But he's our retard.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 07, 2023, 03:58:14 PM
I think that you are right but I don’t think we can always easily decide who can rationally decide things.

Example: As far as I know, Hamner has never officially been diagnosed as retarded.

I heard when he ain't trying to bite his own ear, he actually comes across as an intelligent person.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 07, 2023, 04:20:39 PM
For me, I have two issues, and I don't think any of them are the same as letting someone drink from a water fountain or where someone can sit on a bus.  Hell, I don't even care who people date or marry.

1) I disagree with any type of hormone blockers or gender surgery until 18 years old.  We don't allow LASIK until someone is 18.  Boob jobs are 18 or 22.  I think we should treat any sort of gender care as the same.
2) I disagree with people who are men competing in women's sports.  Should add that in pre-k, kindergarten level, I'm fine with co-ed sports like basketball or soccer.  I'm talking more Junior High and above.
And this is coming from someone who proudly served his country during “Don’t ask, don’t tell”. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 07, 2023, 04:22:46 PM
I heard when he ain't trying to bite his own ear, he actually comes across as an intelligent person.

What else would a lawyer that cares be Snake?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 07, 2023, 04:33:02 PM
What else would a lawyer that cares be Snake?

I am only regurgitating what Snags told me about the guy.  For all I know, he could be a full-on.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: The Six on June 07, 2023, 04:36:36 PM
And this is coming from someone who proudly served his country during “Don’t ask, don’t tell”.

"Don't scream, don't yell" was the other part of that according to family who served during that time.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: CCTAU on June 08, 2023, 01:29:02 AM
I heard when he ain't trying to bite his own ear, he actually comes across as an intelligent person.

Just dangle some sausage in front of him and watch him dance.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 08, 2023, 09:21:47 AM
"Don't scream, don't yell" was the other part of that according to family who served during that time.

Unfortunately, we don't have anyone who was in the Navy who posts on the X to confirm.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 08, 2023, 09:27:30 AM
Unfortunately, we don't have anyone who was in the Navy who posts on the X to confirm.

Thanks for going easy on us Chair Force folk.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 08, 2023, 03:51:52 PM
Unfortunately, we don't have anyone who was in the Navy who posts on the X to confirm.
That chief guy that used to be here explained to me that marines were a division of the Navy and that when they would have some on board, occasionally he heard strange noises coming from their barracks. He seemed sincere.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 08, 2023, 04:07:45 PM
Thanks for going easy on us Chair Force folk.

Yeah...  not sure why this airman is saluting the rainbow flag, but whatever...

https://twitter.com/usairforce/status/1666491502426480642?s=20

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyCRLEaWYA0xIs4?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 08, 2023, 04:38:35 PM
Yeah...  not sure why this airman is saluting the rainbow flag, but whatever...

https://twitter.com/usairforce/status/1666491502426480642?s=20

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyCRLEaWYA0xIs4?format=jpg&name=small)
I clicked on this s on Twitter and read mostly negative comments from veterans and a few libtards. And while I think it’s ridiculous to celebrate anyone’s sexual orientation in any branch, after looking at the pic, he’s not facing the fag flag. But it’s still a really stupid look, imo.

But I’m not talking shit about the Air Force, now that Snake is on here. I’ve seen his guns. 💪 Reminds me of Buzzy guns.

Snags has guns too but big biceps just aren’t as intimidating when they are on a faggot.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 08, 2023, 04:58:32 PM
I clicked on this s on Twitter and read mostly negative comments from veterans and a few libtards. And while I think it’s ridiculous to celebrate anyone’s sexual orientation in any branch, after looking at the pic, he’s not facing the fag flag. But it’s still a really stupid look, imo.

But I’m not talking shit about the Air Force, now that Snake is on here. I’ve seen his guns. 💪 Reminds me of Buzzy guns.

Snags has guns too but big biceps just aren’t as intimidating when they are on a faggot.

Spanking the monkey yields pretty remarkable gains.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 08, 2023, 05:30:38 PM
Yeah...  not sure why this airman is saluting the rainbow flag, but whatever...

https://twitter.com/usairforce/status/1666491502426480642?s=20

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyCRLEaWYA0xIs4?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://media.tenor.com/ea1R-teipsMAAAAC/trigger-triggered.gif)

How DARE you assume his gender! 

OH MY GOD, CANCEL ME TOO! I USED THE WRONG PRONOUN
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: The Six on June 09, 2023, 08:36:05 AM
Cracker Barrel has joined the alphabet flash mob.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyH2iZBWYAEdcTX?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: CCTAU on June 09, 2023, 12:50:09 PM
The Air Force will be the weakest link before too long. They are all about wokeness. Good people are leaving in droves. The only ones left will be sheep with no ability to further positive US efforts.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 09, 2023, 12:57:56 PM
The Air Force will be the weakest link before too long. They are all about wokeness. Good people are leaving in droves. The only ones left will be sheep with no ability to further positive US efforts.

I left active duty in 2014 to move back home and joined the ANG.  I left the ANG in 2019 because instead of making sure we maintained readiness for mobilization down range, they prioritized pushing mandatory training on diversity & inclusion that covers alphabet people and the like.  The military is the last thing that needs to be influenced by political ideology.  We are rapidly becoming a weak ass fighting force because of it.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 09, 2023, 12:58:38 PM
Guess I don’t know why you just can’t “be” who you are. Why do we all have to “celebrate” it? Why do I keep getting told I have to “celebrate” it? It’s a gotdamn sexual preference. Why the hell does anyone need to publicly  celebrate who they wanna rub genitalia with? It’s asinine.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: CCTAU on June 09, 2023, 03:56:07 PM
Guess I don’t know why you just can’t “be” who you are. Why do we all have to “celebrate” it? Why do I keep getting told I have to “celebrate” it? It’s a gotdamn sexual preference. Why the hell does anyone need to publicly  celebrate who they wanna rub genitalia with? It’s asinine.

BLM…Say It!
Breonna … Say Her Name!
Pride…Say It!

It’s a theme.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 10, 2023, 09:28:48 AM
The Air Force will be the weakest link before too long. They are all about wokeness. Good people are leaving in droves. The only ones left will be sheep with no ability to further positive US efforts.

Not just the AF. Happening in all branches.

We will lose a major war in our lifetime.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 10, 2023, 09:38:53 AM
Not just the AF. Happening in all branches.

We will lose a major war in our lifetime.

It’s because they (whoever they are) have deemed all the traits that made this the richest, strongest, most advanced society in history “toxic”
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 10, 2023, 10:04:40 AM
It’s because they (whoever they are) have deemed all the traits that made this the richest, strongest, most advanced society in history “toxic”

So this is my tin foil hat thought.

The people who are more apt to join the military because of the lgbt advertising (Navy has the transgender social media guy doing recruiting videos), how do they view people like you and me?

We already know that our government considers most of the people who post on this board “domestic terrorists.”

Should the order come from above, would the people joining the military now think twice about shooting on conservative Christians?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Kaos on June 10, 2023, 11:28:16 AM
So this is my tin foil hat thought.

The people who are more apt to join the military because of the lgbt advertising (Navy has the transgender social media guy doing recruiting videos), how do they view people like you and me?

We already know that our government considers most of the people who post on this board “domestic terrorists.”

Should the order come from above, would the people joining the military now think twice about shooting on conservative Christians?

No.  They wouldn’t. 

That’s the war we can’t afford to lose.  But we have the guns.  That’s why they want to take them away. 

I hate to think this way, but a national divorce might be in order.  I have nothing but raw contempt for every decision made by the current administration.  I have no respect for it.  I don’t agree with any position it holds.  Not a single one.  I do not want to be ruled by evil pedophile- supporting globalists, particularly when I consider their right to rule completely illegitimate. 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 10, 2023, 04:12:47 PM
So this is my tin foil hat thought.

The people who are more apt to join the military because of the lgbt advertising (Navy has the transgender social media guy doing recruiting videos), how do they view people like you and me?

We already know that our government considers most of the people who post on this board “domestic terrorists.”

Should the order come from above, would the people joining the military now think twice about shooting on conservative Christians?
Obviously, they know that Kaos is a domestic terrorist. But I think that there are enough fags on here that they would hesitate before just indiscriminately killing all of us.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 10, 2023, 09:13:17 PM
Obviously, they know that Kaos is a domestic terrorist. But I think that there are enough fags on here that they would hesitate before just indiscriminately killing all of us.

Don’t test Wes and I. I know you want to, but just don’t even.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 12, 2023, 09:12:35 AM
When you conquer a nation, you hang your flag in a matter than shows who is in charge.

(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/06/1440/810/AP23161658871944.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

Welcome to the U.S. of Gay.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 12, 2023, 11:35:10 AM
When you conquer a nation, you hang your flag in a matter than shows who is in charge.

(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/06/1440/810/AP23161658871944.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

Welcome to the U.S. of Gay.
Maybe if the gays reproduce enough quality non and binary soldiers, we will still be able to hold off China and Russia in the good old U.S. of Gay.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 12, 2023, 12:59:40 PM
When you conquer a nation, you hang your flag in a matter than shows who is in charge.

(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/06/1440/810/AP23161658871944.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

Welcome to the U.S. of Gay.

"bUt wHy dUz IT bOtHeR yEw or dO U caRE anYWAy?"
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 12, 2023, 01:17:25 PM
"bUt wHy dUz IT bOtHeR yEw or dO U caRE anYWAy?"
He sure seemed to take a lot of pride in saying U.S. of Gay.

Just an observation.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 12, 2023, 01:30:35 PM
It is now known as “progress pride” flag, I guess. Today is the first I have seen that.

Is referring to it as the fag flag inappropriate?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 12, 2023, 02:19:14 PM
It is now known as “progress pride” flag, I guess. Today is the first I have seen that.

Is referring to it as the fag flag inappropriate?

https://youtu.be/oyWYW6TgxtY

Directly addresses children.  After 18 years old, be who you want to be.  Shit is going way too far right now.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 12, 2023, 02:41:21 PM
https://youtu.be/oyWYW6TgxtY

Directly addresses children.  After 18 years old, be who you want to be.  Shit is going way too far right now.
Too far, right now or too far right, now?

You need to make up which side you are on. I’m debating on Wes’ future on the x. Choose carefully.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 12, 2023, 03:06:59 PM
Too far, right now or too far right, now?

You need to make up which side you are on. I’m debating on Wes’ future on the x. Choose carefully.

Answer: Righty tighty, lefty loosey.

I am sure I could find some political things I could agree with Wes on.  Like cow farts and their impact on the environment.  Being serious, I do think we should care more for the environment.  Nuclear energy is gaining steam from our major competitors, and needs the be the direction we start heading again IMHO.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 12, 2023, 03:48:10 PM
Answer: Righty tighty, lefty loosey.

I am sure I could find some political things I could agree with Wes on.  Like cow farts and their impact on the environment.  Being serious, I do think we should care more for the environment.  Nuclear energy is gaining steam from our major competitors, and needs the be the direction we start heading again IMHO.
Nuclear is scary but it makes a lot of sense that it’s the best long term solution to me. I’m no rocket surgeon but it can do more with less.

EV is good with the libs because they’ve been sold that by their leaders. Their leaders think Guam could be topple with military expansion.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 12, 2023, 03:53:47 PM
Their leaders think Guam could be topple with military expansion.

And that dumbass (talking about Hank Johnson, not Buzz) keeps getting reelected.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 12, 2023, 04:08:45 PM
And that dumbass (talking about Hank Johnson, not Buzz) keeps getting reelected.
Luckily. he was not right about it tipping over.

Buzz thought it may tip over, too?
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 12, 2023, 04:51:19 PM
https://youtu.be/oyWYW6TgxtY

Directly addresses children.  After 18 years old, be who you want to be.  Shit is going way too far right now.

"liV anD lEt liVE yEw biGutS"
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 12, 2023, 05:22:15 PM
"liV anD lEt liVE yEw biGutS"

Admittedly, that is my approach... within reason.  Overreach into the lives of children is cause to fight the good fight.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 12, 2023, 07:47:06 PM
Admittedly, that is my approach... within reason.  Overreach into the lives of children is cause to fight the good fight.

I know that. You know that. But some don’t know that.

Muh rites…and all.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: The Six on June 13, 2023, 01:59:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FygE-sbXgAA0KV5?format=jpg&name=small)

There are no longer women in the LGBTQIA2+ community. There are non-men.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: GH2001 on June 13, 2023, 02:04:40 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FygE-sbXgAA0KV5?format=jpg&name=small)

There are no longer women in the LGBTQIA2+ community. There are non-men.

Snags is a "gay man". Now we know.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 13, 2023, 02:11:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FygE-sbXgAA0KV5?format=jpg&name=small)

There are no longer women in the LGBTQIA2+ community. There are non-men.

What they call people that fuck toasters? 
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: AUJarhead on June 13, 2023, 02:20:30 PM
What they call people that fuck toasters?

Bryan Harsin supporters.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 13, 2023, 02:21:40 PM
Snags is a "gay man". Now we know.

I prefer, "Light in the loafers".
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 13, 2023, 06:45:21 PM
Snags is a "gay man". Now we know.
A little sugar in the britches? Sure. Light in the loafers? Absolutely. Sweet as honey? No doubt.

But Snags is NOT full on queer, all of the time.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snakebite on June 13, 2023, 07:22:40 PM
A little sugar in the britches? Sure. Light in the loafers? Absolutely. Sweet as honey? No doubt.

But Snags is NOT full on queer, all of the time.

I’ve been meaning to ask you… did you give him my number? I keep getting unsolicited dick pics from a number I don’t recognize. It’s a micro-penis.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 13, 2023, 09:42:59 PM
I’ve been meaning to ask you… did you give him my number? I keep getting unsolicited dick pics from a number I don’t recognize. It’s a micro-penis.
I have found it’s best to just delete without comment.
Title: Re: Pride Month
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 14, 2023, 10:03:43 AM
I’ve been meaning to ask you… did you give him my number? I keep getting unsolicited dick pics from a number I don’t recognize. It’s a micro-penis.

Good chance that's me, then.