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Title: Winner and Margin
Post by: wesfau2 on November 08, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
Let see who you got.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Ogre on November 08, 2016, 09:02:08 AM
I've predicted a landslide victory for Hillary in the Electoral College since the day Trump won the nomination.  No reason to back off now.  I don't blame her supporters, I blame the 40% of the Republican party who gave them the most unelectable candidate in modern history.  I still contend that if this were Rubio, Kasich, or even Carly Fiorina we'd be talking about a monumental Republican victory.  But nah, MAGA, baby! 

I voted my conscious and wrote in Evan McMullin for President.  I voted Libertarian for Senate (Allen Buckley over Johnny Isakson) and Republican down-ballot.  If there was a Democrat running unopposed I withheld my vote. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUJarhead on November 08, 2016, 09:19:06 AM
Agree 100% with Ogre.  I think she wins in excess of 350 Electoral College Votes, and captures about 48% of the popular vote.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 08, 2016, 04:43:59 PM
I'm thinking it's going to be Hillary Clinton, but it's not going to be a landslide, gonna be fairly close.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 08, 2016, 05:15:28 PM
I still think Hillary wins but I'm still hoping.

We could've certainly used a stronger candidate.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 08, 2016, 05:39:08 PM
I still think Hillary wins but I'm still hoping.

We could've certainly used a stronger candidate.

Sadly there wasn't one.  None of the rest had the personal magnetism or ability to generate enthusiasm. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 08, 2016, 06:21:45 PM
Hillary wins convincingly but I do think Trump sneaks a state or two that creates drama for 2020. Maybe Michigan or Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Pell City Tiger on November 08, 2016, 08:00:55 PM
I'll take the outliers role here. I predict a 3 point Trump win.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 08, 2016, 08:48:23 PM
I'll take the outliers role here. I predict a 3 point Trump win.

Who you callin' a liar?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Jumbo on November 08, 2016, 09:30:04 PM
Trump is about to make history...
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Pell City Tiger on November 08, 2016, 09:48:04 PM
You couldn't drive a toothpick up Wolf Blitzer's ass with a 16 pound sledgehammer right now.

The media is getting skeered!
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 08, 2016, 10:41:41 PM
If Trump does by chance win, who will be first to report Chizzy and Prowler for deportation?

Will they be allowed to stay?

I really don't care but I don't think Wes should be deported. He's a fine man underneath that gruff exterior.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on November 08, 2016, 10:43:00 PM
I was one of the trump +20
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 08, 2016, 10:52:11 PM
I expected it to be close but this may be like 2000.

We should hang a Chad.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 08, 2016, 10:56:07 PM
If Trump does by chance win, who will be first to report Chizzy and Prowler for deportation?

Will they be allowed to stay?

I really don't care but I don't think Wes should be deported. He's a fine man underneath that gruff exterior.
Just because someone has a difference of opinion and thinks that some that vote for Trump are a bunch of knuckle dragging retards, shouldn't cause one to cry, bitch, and whine about it.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: bottomfeeder on November 08, 2016, 11:03:02 PM
Trump +50. The Clinton crime family hangs from a noose. Others will dealt with accordingly.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 08, 2016, 11:06:10 PM
Just because someone has a difference of opinion and thinks that some that vote for Trump are a bunch of knuckle dragging retards, shouldn't cause one to cry, bitch, and whine about it.
I am glad you are going to take it like a man. Good luck to you in the eastern bloc.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: chityeah on November 08, 2016, 11:09:46 PM
Who cares. Med marijuana passed here. Now to cut through the red tape and get my card. Puff, puff pass and chill till 2020.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Ogre on November 08, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
I'll be the first to eat crow.  I honestly did not expect this.  Not in a million years.  And to be honest, a big part of me loves seeing Hillary get schlonged ($1 to President Trump).   

Either way, congrats to him.  Now let's see if he can back up his promises. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Jumbo on November 08, 2016, 11:34:51 PM
America said we're not going to take this shit anymore!
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on November 08, 2016, 11:45:09 PM
Just because someone has a difference of opinion and thinks that some that vote for Trump are a bunch of knuckle dragging retards, shouldn't cause one to cry, bitch, and whine about it.

Fuck You
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 08, 2016, 11:53:55 PM
Fuck You
Fuck you, goddamn retard.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Token on November 08, 2016, 11:54:50 PM
I said earlier today this election might shock people. I think the polls have said what they said in last few months because the media was attempting to sway the election AND people felt ashamed to admit they would vote for Trump.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on November 08, 2016, 11:58:19 PM
Fuck you, goddamn retard.

Who's the retard?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: chinook on November 08, 2016, 11:59:33 PM
America said we're not going to take this shit anymore!

Grab her by the pussy.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: chityeah on November 09, 2016, 12:02:34 AM
CANNONBALLLL!!
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 09, 2016, 12:09:52 AM
I'm not celebrating anything until he wins, but even then, it's not a Trump celebration but a hope that Hillary chokes on a 12" schlong.  I completely understand that who I'm talking about here is 100% biased.  But he makes a good point overall.  Sean Hannity said this is significant (No matter what happens) because Trump was going against the Democratic machine, the Republican party, the overwhelming media bias, poll bias etc.  He's right.

Forget the electoral vote, the popular vote said America is fed up with where we're is headed. I saw one analyst say the common man, the every day 9 to 5'er is done with Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus and tons of Hollywood stars telling them they're idiots. 

Trump is not my choice.  My retirement is about to take a major hit if he wins. The Nasdaq is already heading straight down.  This may be horrible initially for some because the threat of major change will immediately cause a major sell off.  I have many words to say to my Edward Jones rep tomorrow for not prepping me for what might happen.   
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 09, 2016, 12:19:30 AM
Whelp. I was wrong.

Glad I'm a white male though.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Token on November 09, 2016, 12:27:40 AM
Whelp. I was wrong.

Glad I'm a white male though.

Jesus.  We aren't electing Hitler.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: chinook on November 09, 2016, 01:59:12 AM
Jesus.  We aren't electing Hitler.

Nope.  She'll be in prison soon.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 02:16:49 AM
Who's the retard?
Just because Trump will become POTUS doesn't mean you stop being a retard...doesn't mean some of his supporters stop being inbred, knuckle daggers. Just like with bama winning the Championship doesn't mean some of their supporters stop being inbred, knuckle draggers.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 02:23:53 AM
Nope.  She'll be in prison soon.
That's going to be interesting going forward.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 02:28:07 AM
I'm not celebrating anything until he wins, but even then, it's not a Trump celebration but a hope that Hillary chokes on a 12" schlong.  I completely understand that who I'm talking about here is 100% biased.  But he makes a good point overall.  Sean Hannity said this is significant (No matter what happens) because Trump was going against the Democratic machine, the Republican party, the overwhelming media bias, poll bias etc.  He's right.

Forget the electoral vote, the popular vote said America is fed up with where we're is headed. I saw one analyst say the common man, the every day 9 to 5'er is done with Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus and tons of Hollywood stars telling them they're idiots. 

Trump is not my choice.  My retirement is about to take a major hit if he wins. The Nasdaq is already heading straight down.  This may be horrible initially for some because the threat of major change will immediately cause a major sell off.  I have many words to say to my Edward Jones rep tomorrow for not prepping me for what might happen.
I agree with that.

The markets usually falls some during every election, and a little more with a change, correct?

Btw, I'm already purchasing stock now.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 03:06:22 AM
Alright...Trump is the Commander in Chief. This will be or hopefully will be a true change. When he said that Republicans, Democrats, & Independents all need to come together as one...I definitely agree with that. Gonna be exciting and scary at the same time, of course that's how true change should be, imo.

Congratulations to Donald J. Trump, we're all counting on you...don't fuck it up.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: CCTAU on November 09, 2016, 04:21:14 AM
Fuck you, goddamn retard.


Don't you have some liberal cock to gobble somewhere else? Far away from the real men!


Take your sissy fag landslide somewhere else!
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on November 09, 2016, 04:32:19 AM
Fuck you, goddamn retard.

Until you start sending me a check for $1817/month go fuck yourself
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 05:13:02 AM
Until you start sending me a check for $1817/month go fuck yourself
How bout you take that $1817, wad it up real nice and tight, and shove it up your ass. Fuckin retard
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: jmar on November 09, 2016, 05:43:11 AM
Jesus.  We aren't electing Hitler.
I don't even know any Jews.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 09, 2016, 08:32:22 AM
How bout you take that $1817, wad it up real nice and tight, and shove it up your ass. Fuckin retard
You do realize that Trump is probably not going to support an increase in minimum wage, don't you?

This money could probably be better used than your suggestion.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 09, 2016, 08:39:36 AM
I guess I just don't understand how some people, both here and in this great country of ours, can't disagree without calling each other names. It is ok to disagree...why the fuck does it always become personal?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 09, 2016, 08:45:39 AM
I guess I just don't understand how some people, both here and in this great country of ours, can't disagree without calling each other names. It is ok to disagree...why the fuck does it always become personal?

Shut up, dumbass.

I keed.  I keed.  And I agree. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 09, 2016, 08:47:02 AM
I guess I just don't understand how some people, both here and in this great country of ours, can't disagree without calling each other names. It is ok to disagree...why the fuck does it always become personal?
You are right but it's almost inevitable that people with superior IQ's seem to want to play the "fuckin' retard" card.

I guess it's just the superior vocabulary.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: chinook on November 09, 2016, 08:53:51 AM
I guess I just don't understand how some people, both here and in this great country of ours, can't disagree without calling each other names. It is ok to disagree...why the fuck does it always become personal?


well said douche.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUJarhead on November 09, 2016, 09:03:45 AM
Well, I was wrong.  I hope he does a good job, and I wish him nothing but the best.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Token on November 09, 2016, 09:09:32 AM
I guess I just don't understand how some people, both here and in this great country of ours, can't disagree without calling each other names. It is ok to disagree...why the fuck does it always become personal?

Because nasty and hateful is the new norm. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: jmar on November 09, 2016, 09:20:24 AM
I curse everyone here as sort of a guy thing. It's the way I grew up. Name calling was always acceptable as in: Look here you spastic fuck, we're already down three. You miss this putt and we lose six bets...now pass me a beer please.

See...name calling AND courtesy!
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: wesfau2 on November 09, 2016, 09:41:55 AM
Because nasty and hateful is the new norm.

And its embodiment is now our president. 

Great. 

You guys got your wish.  I hope it's not half as catastrophic as I fear.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 09, 2016, 09:56:58 AM
Because nasty and hateful is the new norm.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/norm3.jpg)
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 09, 2016, 09:58:37 AM
And its embodiment is now our president. 

Great. 

You guys got your wish.  I hope it's not half as catastrophic as I fear.

 :haha:
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 09, 2016, 09:58:51 AM
And its embodiment is now our president. 

Bull. Fucking. Shit.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 09, 2016, 09:58:56 AM
And its embodiment is now our president. 

Great. 

You guys got your wish.  I hope it's not half as catastrophic as I fear.
Yep. It's all our fault.

Well, mainly Kaos. But I accept my share of the blame.

Don't get too uppity, loser.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 09, 2016, 10:30:01 AM
And its embodiment is now our president. 

Great. 

You guys got your wish.  I hope it's not half as catastrophic as I fear.

He wasn't my wish at all. But he's in. 

One of the things I said from the start is that in theory, a lot of his ideas aligned with mine with regard to ObamaCare, addressing the trade deficit and immigration. I also said from the start that the scorched earth method in which he proposed to "fix" those problems would never work, even with a Republican House and Senate, because he'd never get the backing and cooperation needed to:

Round up 11 1/2 million illegals, put em' in trucks and dump em' over the border.  Then make Mexico build a wall to keep em' out.  Never happen!  But...the illegal immigration problem needs to be addressed and no longer just given lip service.

Repeal NAFTA and start over with new trade agreements.  Not going to happen just like that.  But....something must be done to bring manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. and get us to the point where 75% of the tags we look at on a piece of merchandise don't say "Made in China" or "Made in Mexico".

Blow up ObamaCare.  Is he going to take office and just throw it out the window?  Wish he could but it's not going to happen that way.  This in my opinion, is priority one.  What AUTailgating has been stating about what the cost of health insurance is doing to him and countless others is very real and very wrong.  It's definitely hit our little mom and pop firm hard and we recently had a meeting to crunch the numbers on that very thing.  The result?  Another spike in premiums and we have no choice but to let somebody go. 

 
Trump talked big and brash on every issue.  Now, he's going to have to tone it down about 500% and start being the negotiator, the business man that can get things done though cooperation and compromise.     
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Saniflush on November 09, 2016, 10:54:37 AM
And its embodiment is now our president. 

Great. 

You guys got your wish.  I hope it's not half as catastrophic as I fear.

More importantly, have you gotten your glaucoma script yet?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: jmar on November 09, 2016, 11:23:42 AM
He wasn't my wish at all. But he's in. 

One of the things I said from the start is that in theory, a lot of his ideas aligned with mine with regard to ObamaCare, addressing the trade deficit and immigration. I also said from the start that the scorched earth method in which he proposed to "fix" those problems would never work, even with a Republican House and Senate, because he'd never get the backing and cooperation needed to:

Round up 11 1/2 million illegals, put em' in trucks and dump em' over the border.  Then make Mexico build a wall to keep em' out.  Never happen!  But...the illegal immigration problem needs to be addressed and no longer just given lip service.

Repeal NAFTA and start over with new trade agreements.  Not going to happen just like that.  But....something must be done to bring manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. and get us to the point where 75% of the tags we look at on a piece of merchandise don't say "Made in China" or "Made in Mexico".

Blow up ObamaCare.  Is he going to take office and just throw it out the window?  Wish he could but it's not going to happen that way.  This in my opinion, is priority one.  What AUTailgating has been stating about what the cost of health insurance is doing to him and countless others is very real and very wrong.  It's definitely hit our little mom and pop firm hard and we recently had a meeting to crunch the numbers on that very thing.  The result?  Another spike in premiums and we have no choice but to let somebody go. 

 
Trump talked big and brash on every issue.  Now, he's going to have to tone it down about 500% and start being the negotiator, the business man that can get things done though cooperation and compromise.   
Thank God you're just a figurehead. I knew all that talk of change was just a lot of baloney. We have checks and balances here to reel your type in. You're fired!
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 09, 2016, 11:39:11 AM
In all seriousness, I knew he had a legit shot but I never really thought he'd win. Too much of a long shot. And I've never liked the man.  Surely I've said so before on here. But just as Kaos pointed out numerous times, I couldn't vote for her.

As a business owner who saw first hand what 2008 could do by being in a business directly tied to the housing market, I desperately hoped Obama would see great success. If you are in small business, you already know how that turned out.

So, I'm paying more for health insurance now than I ever have. $1,600 a month. It's up by more than $500 the last increase. Before Obama, was on a Cadillac plan for around 1k. Now, it's a Dodge Stratus for $1,600.

When we had more employees, we at one time offered health plans and paid half. Saw the writing on that wall and thankfully had already stopped that. There was no way we could afford it. Talked to a friend of mine last week. His company has always paid 100% of the employee's coverage. Stopped last month. They realize it is not doable. They still pay over half.

I am just glad that I'm not the only one fed up with: the establishment, big government, political correctness, black lives matter, entitlement attitude and people expecting me to pay more than my share.

This probably won't make a huge difference in my wallet but at least it's a vote saying we are fed up with this. And we may not be many but we are enough to get a guy elected.

So, for all of you who have had to make payroll in the last 8 years, congrats.

Now, if he does half of what he's promised, I will be amazed.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 09, 2016, 11:45:45 AM
In all seriousness, I knew he had a legit shot but I never really thought he'd win. Too much of a long shot. And I've never liked the man.  Surely I've said so before on here. But just as Kaos pointed out numerous times, I couldn't vote for her.

As a business owner who saw first hand what 2008 could do by being in a business directly tied to the housing market, I desperately hoped Obama would see great success. If you are in small business, you already know how that turned out.

So, I'm paying more for health insurance now than I ever have. $1,600 a month. It's up by more than $500 the last increase. Before Obama, was on a Cadillac plan for around 1k. Now, it's a Dodge Stratus for $1,600.

When we had more employees, we at one time offered health plans and paid half. Saw the writing on that wall and thankfully had already stopped that. There was no way we could afford it. Talked to a friend of mine last week. His company has always paid 100% of the employee's coverage. Stopped last month. They realize it is not doable. They still pay over half.

I am just glad that I'm not the only one fed up with: the establishment, big government, political correctness, black lives matter, entitlement attitude and people expecting me to pay more than my share.

This probably won't make a huge difference in my wallet but at least it's a vote saying we are fed up with this. And we may not be many but we are enough to get a guy elected.

So, for all of you who have had to make paytoll in the last 8 years, congrats.

Now, if he does half of what he's promised, I will be amazed.

Spell check could have been your friend about 53 times.  But, through all that 5th grade jibberish, I get what you're saying. As for entitlement....here's part of what Trump will be governing.  foxnews


Liberal students across the nation watched in shock as Donald Trump clinched victory from Hillary Clinton to become the 45th president of the United States.

But some wiped their tears, and pulled themselves together enough to ask their professors to cancel their exams because they were so upset by the results.

And one Yale economics professor heard the cry, and decided to protect his snowflake charges by making the test optional.

— Jon Victor (@jon_victor_) November 9, 2016
He wrote to them saying: “I am getting many heartfelt notes from students who are in shock over the election returns” and “fear, rightly or wrongly for their families” and are “requesting that the exam be postponed.”

It isn’t clear who the professor was, but Yale publishes a list of its economics faculty members here.
 
John Victor, editor of the Yale News, published the extraordinary message, and noted that many more snowflake students were demanding similar treatment.
 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 09, 2016, 11:51:09 AM
Spell check could have been your friend about 53 times.  But, through all that 5th grade jibberish, I get what you're saying. As for entitlement....here's part of what Trump will be governing.  foxnews


Liberal students across the nation watched in shock as Donald Trump clinched victory from Hillary Clinton to become the 45th president of the United States.

But some wiped their tears, and pulled themselves together enough to ask their professors to cancel their exams because they were so upset by the results.

And one Yale economics professor heard the cry, and decided to protect his snowflake charges by making the test optional.

— Jon Victor (@jon_victor_) November 9, 2016
He wrote to them saying: “I am getting many heartfelt notes from students who are in shock over the election returns” and “fear, rightly or wrongly for their families” and are “requesting that the exam be postponed.”

It isn’t clear who the professor was, but Yale publishes a list of its economics faculty members here.
 
John Victor, editor of the Yale News, published the extraordinary message, and noted that many more snowflake students were demanding similar treatment.
Look, I am working. I know that's foreign to you but some of us do that. So, I'm on the IPhone.

If there is one thing that I desperately hope we get with this presidency, it is tort reform. And big time limitations on wreck settlements for sure.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 09, 2016, 11:54:06 AM
Look, I am working. I know that's foreign to you but some of us do that. So, I'm on the IPhone.

If there is one thing that I desperately hope we get with this presidency, it is tort reform. And big time limitations on wreck settlements for sure.

Then how will I ever keep supporting your wife and my kids?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 09, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
In all seriousness, I knew he had a legit shot but I never really thought he'd win. Too much of a long shot. And I've never liked the man.  Surely I've said so before on here. But just as Kaos pointed out numerous times, I couldn't vote for her.

As a business owner who saw first hand what 2008 could do by being in a business directly tied to the housing market, I desperately hoped Obama would see great success. If you are in small business, you already know how that turned out.

So, I'm paying more for health insurance now than I ever have. $1,600 a month. It's up by more than $500 the last increase. Before Obama, was on a Cadillac plan for around 1k. Now, it's a Dodge Stratus for $1,600.

When we had more employees, we at one time offered health plans and paid half. Saw the writing on that wall and thankfully had already stopped that. There was no way we could afford it. Talked to a friend of mine last week. His company has always paid 100% of the employee's coverage. Stopped last month. They realize it is not doable. They still pay over half.

I am just glad that I'm not the only one fed up with: the establishment, big government, political correctness, black lives matter, entitlement attitude and people expecting me to pay more than my share.

This probably won't make a huge difference in my wallet but at least it's a vote saying we are fed up with this. And we may not be many but we are enough to get a guy elected.

So, for all of you who have had to make payroll in the last 8 years, congrats.

Now, if he does half of what he's promised, I will be amazed.

I'm in much the same boat. 

Before Obama was elected, I paid 100% of the insurance for my employees.  We had a $25 co-pay and a $500 deductible (I think). 

Now?  I can't even pay half.  I had to cap it at what I was paying in 2012 and go no higher.  I don't like that.

If I could get back just 1/3 of what I'm having to pay in taxes right now?  I could hire two more people I desperately need. 

An extension of the disastrous Obama tenure would have been horrible for me.  There's a chance it gets better now.  There was ZERO chance with her. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUChizad on November 09, 2016, 11:57:18 AM
First of all, I need some hot sauce for this crow.

A small part of me thought a Brexit thing might be brewing, especially in the home stretch. Whoever said it earlier, I think they're right that enough of America was using this as a giant middle finger to being constantly looked down at and condescended to and called bigots over innocuous shit, etc. and had had enough.

Part of me thinks it's hilarious that Hillary Clinton couldn't even beat the guy we all thought might be shilling for her, he was such a ridiculously bad candidate. And smiles thinking of Lena Dunham crying her eyes out about the patriarchy.

But then there's another side of me that thinks we might have just done a very bad thing in the long-haul. Our president is now an overt asshole who can't string two intelligible sentences together. I can't see how that bodes well for our standing in the world.

I'm not cheering for him to fail. I hope my concerns are unfounded. It kind of scares me that he has complete free reign with the congress and Supreme Court in place. I know a lot of you think this is great, but I don't think there's a lot of traditionally conservative principles he's standing for. I can hope all day that the Rubios and Ryans and Pauls and Scotts etc. will stand up to him on principles if he gets out of line. I somehow sincerely doubt it though. I suspect they sell out to his every whim. I hope not.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 09, 2016, 12:05:36 PM
Spell check could have been your friend about 53 times.  But, through all that 5th grade jibberish, I get what you're saying. As for entitlement....here's part of what Trump will be governing.  foxnews


Liberal students across the nation watched in shock as Donald Trump clinched victory from Hillary Clinton to become the 45th president of the United States.

But some wiped their tears, and pulled themselves together enough to ask their professors to cancel their exams because they were so upset by the results.

And one Yale economics professor heard the cry, and decided to protect his snowflake charges by making the test optional.

— Jon Victor (@jon_victor_) November 9, 2016
He wrote to them saying: “I am getting many heartfelt notes from students who are in shock over the election returns” and “fear, rightly or wrongly for their families” and are “requesting that the exam be postponed.”

It isn’t clear who the professor was, but Yale publishes a list of its economics faculty members here.
 
John Victor, editor of the Yale News, published the extraordinary message, and noted that many more snowflake students were demanding similar treatment.


Well, to be fair I typed that for him.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 09, 2016, 12:09:39 PM
First of all, I need some hot sauce for this crow.

A small part of me thought a Brexit thing might be brewing, especially in the home stretch. Whoever said it earlier, I think they're right that enough of America was using this as a giant middle finger to being constantly looked down at and condescended to and called bigots over innocuous shit, etc. and had had enough.

Part of me thinks it's hilarious that Hillary Clinton couldn't even beat the guy we all thought might be shilling for her, he was such a ridiculously bad candidate. And smiles thinking of Lena Dunham crying her eyes out about the patriarchy.

But then there's another side of me that thinks we might have just done a very bad thing in the long-haul. Our president is now an overt asshole who can't string two intelligible sentences together. I can't see how that bodes well for our standing in the world.

I'm not cheering for him to fail. I hope my concerns are unfounded. It kind of scares me that he has complete free reign with the congress and Supreme Court in place. I know a lot of you think this is great, but I don't think there's a lot of traditionally conservative principles he's standing for. I can hope all day that the Rubios and Ryans and Pauls and Scotts etc. will stand up to him on principles if he gets out of line. I somehow sincerely doubt it though. I suspect they sell out to his every whim. I hope not.

No hard feelings.  Except toward Dallas. 

I'm neither lying nor stupid. 

Now I'll tell you why the bolded part shouldn't concern you.  I've told you this before but I'll lay it out again. 

Trump is a smarter guy than you imagine him to be.  He's not "political" as we know that word to be and he's a bit of a narcissist.  He reminds me very much of Gene Simmons, honestly, in that way. 

The reason you don't need to worry is that he's going to surround himself with quality people. 

Rudy Giuliani was arguably the greatest mayor in the history of New York City.  The positive change he brought to that town will persist for generations.  He's going to be very involved. 

Newt Gingrich is a bit of an ass, but he's a good politician and knows the ropes.  He'll have a place.

Pence is stronger than most of us realized (except at 3 a.m. when he looks like a very tired owl). 

You'll see Trump reach out to Rubio, Cruz, Carson and all the people from the primary battles and try to build those bridges. 

Because he's a businessman first, he will absolutely LISTEN to the people he chooses to advise him.  He'll also listen to the opposite side.  He won't rule like a dictator -- which is something she definitely would have done. 

His economic strategy will be top down.  Let businesses build so they can hire people and strengthen the economy.  It works.

His policy strategy will be bottom up.  Listen to all sides, consult with those he trusts and use that information to make informed decisions.   That works too. 

I'd be lying if I said that when the election was called I didn't sit there for a second and go "well, what now..."    I know for a fact (remember that word?) though, that whatever he does will be better than anything she would have.  She would have been an abomination.

I'm right about this. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 09, 2016, 12:13:17 PM
First of all, I need some hot sauce for this crow.

A small part of me thought a Brexit thing might be brewing, especially in the home stretch. Whoever said it earlier, I think they're right that enough of America was using this as a giant middle finger to being constantly looked down at and condescended to and called bigots over innocuous shit, etc. and had had enough.

Part of me thinks it's hilarious that Hillary Clinton couldn't even beat the guy we all thought might be shilling for her, he was such a ridiculously bad candidate. And smiles thinking of Lena Dunham crying her eyes out about the patriarchy.

But then there's another side of me that thinks we might have just done a very bad thing in the long-haul. Our president is now an overt asshole who can't string two intelligible sentences together. I can't see how that bodes well for our standing in the world.

I'm not cheering for him to fail. I hope my concerns are unfounded. It kind of scares me that he has complete free reign with the congress and Supreme Court in place. I know a lot of you think this is great, but I don't think there's a lot of traditionally conservative principles he's standing for. I can hope all day that the Rubios and Ryans and Pauls and Scotts etc. will stand up to him on principles if he gets out of line. I somehow sincerely doubt it though. I suspect they sell out to his every whim. I hope not.

As I said earlier, I can only hope he puts the brash façade in the trash and becomes the negotiator/businessman he built his "empire" or whatever you want to call it, on.  Measured responses to all issues with compromise at the heart of everything is the key in IMO.  The compromise, he can do.  Thought out, measured responses?  Not so much.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 09, 2016, 12:17:47 PM
As I said earlier, I can only hope he puts the brash façade in the trash and becomes the negotiator/businessman he built his "empire" or whatever you want to call it, on.  Measured responses to all issues with compromise at the heart of everything is the key in IMO.  The compromise, he can do.  Thought out, measured responses?  Not so much.  We'll see.

I haven't looked (lazy) but how are the house and senate looking after this?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: jmar on November 09, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
 :rimshot:
Then how will I ever keep supporting your wife and my kids?
:rimshot:
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Saniflush on November 09, 2016, 12:55:40 PM
I can hope all day that the Rubios and Ryans and Pauls and Scotts etc. will stand up to him on principles if he gets out of line.

I actually believe that this has a better than even shot of happening.  He can only give the middle finger so much before there have to be concessions from all sides.  What he did was amazing.  Not because he is amazing but because he energized enough people to help him give a big fuck you to everybody.  I think this serves as something to point to by all people on all sides (except maybe the extremes of both sides) whereby they can say "look here fuckfaces of the RNC and DNC, if you don't give me good options and try to find some amount of common ground this will happen again."
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Saniflush on November 09, 2016, 12:57:45 PM
I haven't looked (lazy) but how are the house and senate looking after this?

Republicans have both
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUChizad on November 09, 2016, 01:05:41 PM
As I said earlier, I can only hope he puts the brash façade in the trash and becomes the negotiator/businessman he built his "empire" or whatever you want to call it, on.  Measured responses to all issues with compromise at the heart of everything is the key in IMO.  The compromise, he can do.  Thought out, measured responses?  Not so much.  We'll see.
Really hoping for this too. I have seen zero reason to believe that to be true, but again, hoping to be wrong.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Godfather on November 09, 2016, 01:05:59 PM
I guess I just don't understand how some people, both here and in this great country of ours, can't disagree without calling each other names. It is ok to disagree...why the fuck does it always become personal?
FUCK YOU AND YOUR GOD DAMN BACKWARDS HAT!
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: jmar on November 09, 2016, 01:13:36 PM
FUCK YOU AND YOUR GOD DAMN BACKWARDS HAT!
Do rag okay which ya?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 09, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
FUCK YOU AND YOUR GOD DAMN BACKWARDS HAT!

He starts waving a towel and we might need to take some action.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Saniflush on November 09, 2016, 04:03:40 PM
Saw this and thought it was pretty good.  Don't agree on all of it but a large part of it is spot on IMO.

https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/dear-democrats-read-this-if-you-do-not-understand-why-trump-won-5a0cdb13c597#.ade7d8iw5


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Dear Democrats, Read This If You Do Not Understand Why Trump Won
Trump Is What Happens When You Nominate A Cheater and Live In An Echo Chamber—Please Learn From This


Did you read Wikileaks?

    Well, you should have.

The “conspiracies” were true, and the mainstream media lied to you to about everything.
Wikileaks was not Russian propaganda, it was the news.

Wikileaks has a 10-year record of never releasing a single falsified document, and is not connected to Russia. Everything they released were the actual e-mails of Hillary Clinton and her campaign staff. You had the opportunity to look through a window into the Hillary Clinton campaign, but you didn’t.

By ignoring the leaks, you ignored reality.

By not listening to your fellow Americans, and accusing them of being “conspiracy theorists” and trusting the corporate media, you ignored reality. By only following other liberals on social media, and only reading liberal or corporate news, once again ignoring reality. When Hillary Clinton was caught rigging the primary against Bernie Sanders, and Democrats nominated her anyway they ignored reality.

Everyone was simply insulating themselves within their own echo chamber ignoring anything outside their bubble.
The Media Lied To Us About EVERYTHING

If you’ve been following my Twitter or Facebook account during this 2016 election you probably would have thought I was a Trump supporter. However, I am a former registered Democrat, a Bernie supporter, and consider myself a progressive libertarian. This was the first election I ended up voting 3rd party, but my second choice was Trump. I simply could not vote for Hillary Clinton because of her mishandling of classified information, and stealing the nomination from the people’s choice Bernie Sanders.

Hillary never should have been nominated in the first place. The first clue was when she was under FBI investigation, and the second clue was when she rigged the primary elections.

In an attempt to inform my friends, family, and followers I posted dozens if not hundreds of Wikileaks e-mails, and tweeted alt-right news just as much as I did liberal news. I did this because most of my followers are liberals, and I realized they were all living in an echo chamber on social media where they were not being exposed to differing opinions or news. I was mostly rejected by liberals for doing this, they didn’t understand why I was sharing things that made them uncomfortable, but now they know why. Ironically, I got far more support from Trump supporters for trying to tell Democrats the truth. I wasn’t expecting that.

I took it upon myself to understand Trump, and his supporters. What I found was millions of great Americans who had been disenfranchised, normal people like you and I, who did not recover from the Great Recession. They’re pissed off about Obama Care, endless wars, trade deals that have killed jobs, higher taxes, a rigged economy–and, they are not wrong.

Had Democrats taken the concerns of average American seriously, especially the concerns of Millennials, they would have quickly realized Hillary Clinton was not the right nominee for the Democratic party in 2016.
Bernie Sanders Would Have Beat Trump

I 100% believe Bernie Sanders could have created a political revolution to beat Trump, but instead we’re getting Trump’s revolution.

The reason Hillary Clinton did not win this election is because she never should have been nominated in the first place. There was a better choice.

Democrats let Hillary hijack the DNC, and use her corporate money to push everyone around. Meanwhile, she used Correct The Record to poison the minds of people online into isolating themselves with paid Hillary trolls. Had Democrats paid attention to the leaks they would have seen the mountain of evidence that told the world that Hillary rigged the primaries against Bernie Sanders, and was illegally coordinating with Super PACs like CTR. She should have been disqualified. The evidence is on Wikileaks.org.

Meanwhile, the media, and social media kept everyone ignorant and isolated from differing opinions. They lied to us, manipulated us, and made us think the rest of the country agreed with us, when they didn’t. They used their position of authority to mislead us into believing in a false reality—in propaganda.

This is the problem with America today, the technology that was supposed to bring us together actually isolated us into echo chambers and drove us further apart.

Getting the news from just your friends is a logical fallacy, you need to know your enemies, and realize they’re not much different from yourself.
There Is Good News

While you weren’t paying attention, Trump is actually a former Democrat. If you study his actual values he has far more in common with traditional moderate or liberal values than he does a traditional conservative. In fact, Trump may even be more liberal than Hillary Clinton on several issues.

The media prevented any kind of discussion on values, and instead focused on rhetoric and propaganda. So most Americans who immediately defaulted to what the media and Clinton campaign told them never took the time to actually get to know Donald Trump. They just watched the jokes on SNL, and corporate media blindly without considering other sources. While I’m still unsure about Trump myself, we at least know politically he’s actually a New York Democrat in Republican clothing (this is why the Republican establishment rejected him).

You also need to consider Donald Trump just overthrew a group of political elites who have been ruling this country for decades. He just beat the political establishment singlehandedly. No matter what you think about him personally, he just accomplished something historic to become our President.

At the end of the day, this is an opportunity to learn and grow and consider another world view. This is a wakeup call to get out of safe spaces, politically correct thinking, shatter echo chambers, and challenge yourself to consider the other side of the fence. This is an opportunity to reach out and truly learn to understand each other.

We all have to come together to solve any real problems with our country in the next 4-years. This election was a lesson to consider all ideas equally, regardless of established authority.

We need to come together and move forward together.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 09, 2016, 04:11:24 PM
Republicans have both


fucking a.   :thumsup:  I fully expect them not to do shit and fuck it up in two years.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: RWS on November 09, 2016, 08:19:42 PM
The reason you don't need to worry is that he's going to surround himself with quality people. 
My wife and I were discussing this a few hours ago.  You don't have to be the smartest person in the room, as long as you surround yourself with those that are smart.  And I think he knows that he has to do that.  Some of his ideas are very raw but his cabinet will help him refine those ideas and make it work for America.  That's my hope, anyway. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 08:51:21 PM
My wife and I were discussing this a few hours ago.  You don't have to be the smartest person in the room, as long as you surround yourself with those that are smart.  And I think he knows that he has to do that.  Some of his ideas are very raw but his cabinet will help him refine those ideas and make it work for America.  That's my hope, anyway.
You mean someone smart like Sarah Palin...smh
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 09, 2016, 09:08:06 PM
You mean someone smart like Sarah Palin...smh

She's smarter than you. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUChizad on November 09, 2016, 09:22:26 PM
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/11/klan_will_hold_trumps_promises.html

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw2SdxGUcAAx_4-.jpg)

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Donald Trump did not drop those fliers on the street in Birmingham. The Klan did. And Donald Trump did not, as they say, approve the message. But he is president elect now, and the message those fliers sent is strong.

His message – if he is really going to lead this country – must be stronger.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Token on November 09, 2016, 09:27:49 PM
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/11/klan_will_hold_trumps_promises.html

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw2SdxGUcAAx_4-.jpg)

That shit's been going on in Alabama for the last few years.  Before Donald was in this election.

Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUChizad on November 09, 2016, 09:30:29 PM
That shit's been going on in Alabama for the last few years.  Before Donald was in this election.
I quoted those selected lines for a reason. He no longer needs to pander to those shitbags. You can argue that he never did. I disagree. The Klan didn't just pick him at random to believe he supports their agenda. He's the president of the United States of America now. If there's any chance we keep our shit together with him at the helm, he needs to start coming out and explicitly disavowing shit like this.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Token on November 09, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
I quoted those selected lines for a reason. He no longer needs to pander to those shitbags. You can argue that he never did. I disagree. The Klan didn't just pick him at random to believe he supports their agenda. He's the president of the United States of America now. If there's any chance we keep our shit together with him at the helm, he needs to start coming out and explicitly disavowing shit like this.

Show me violence against black people by the KKK in the name of Donald Trump, I agree.  We can't possibly expect the man to comment on every single dumbass who does something racist while attaching his name to it. 

If I woke up in the morning and I had a brochure in my yard from the black panthers with Obama's name in it somehow, it would be insane for me to expect him to address the issue. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 09:43:10 PM
She's smarter than you.
She wasn't worried when John McCain was slipping in the polls, because she prayed that God would make the correct choice on election day.

Yeah, gonna have to say no to that "she's smarter than you" statement.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 09, 2016, 09:54:56 PM
I quoted those selected lines for a reason. He no longer needs to pander to those shitbags. You can argue that he never did. I disagree. The Klan didn't just pick him at random to believe he supports their agenda. He's the president of the United States of America now. If there's any chance we keep our shit together with him at the helm, he needs to start coming out and explicitly disavowing shit like this.

Jesus fucking CHRIST. 

I almost wish Trump would ride into Birmingham on a giant white horse, wearing a Klan robe and carrying a burning torch so you could live with yourself. 

Guess what, buttercup.  There are Klan members.  They vote.  Every election.  They probably voted for Romney.   They probably voted for Bush. McCain. If you ran as a Republican in Alabama, they'd vote for you too.

A candidate has ZERO control over who supports him.  There's nothing he -- or anyone else -- can do to prevent this group or that group from endorsing or promoting him. 

Why aren't you bitching and raising hell about all the racists who supported Hillary and Obama?  All the jihadists? 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 09, 2016, 10:49:15 PM
Jesus fucking CHRIST. 

I almost wish Trump would ride into Birmingham on a giant white horse, wearing a Klan robe and carrying a burning torch so you could live with yourself. 

Guess what, buttercup.  There are Klan members.  They vote.  Every election.  They probably voted for Romney.   They probably voted for Bush. McCain. If you ran as a Republican in Alabama, they'd vote for you too.

A candidate has ZERO control over who supports him.  There's nothing he -- or anyone else -- can do to prevent this group or that group from endorsing or promoting him. 

Why aren't you bitching and raising hell about all the racists who supported Hillary and Obama?  All the jihadists?
Wait, did the Black Panther Party endorse Hillary? I must've missed that.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Token on November 09, 2016, 11:01:13 PM
Wait, did the Black Panther Party endorse Hillary? I must've missed that.

The new black panthers absolutely endorsed Obama.  And the BLM movement absolutely endorsed Hillary.  Both groups are as racist as the KKK.

K's right, candidate can't help who endorses. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 09, 2016, 11:14:29 PM
The new black panthers absolutely endorsed Obama.  And the BLM movement absolutely endorsed Hillary.  Both groups are as racist as the KKK.

K's right, candidate can't help who endorses.

Well now...
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: The Prowler on November 10, 2016, 12:02:43 AM
The new black panthers absolutely endorsed Obama.  And the BLM movement absolutely endorsed Hillary.  Both groups are as racist as the KKK.

K's right, candidate can't help who endorses.
There's a new Black Panther Party? I'm out of the loop with all of these racists groups now.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Saniflush on November 10, 2016, 06:49:10 AM
There's a new Black Panther Party? I'm out of the loop with all of these racists groups now.

Forrest ruined the last one that was having a party.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: GH2001 on November 10, 2016, 08:45:24 AM
There's a new Black Panther Party? I'm out of the loop with all of these racists groups now.

It's supposed to be a more militant version of the original one from the counter culture era. Back in 2008 they were manning polling stations with night sticks threatening voters. Nothing was ever done by Eric holder.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: GH2001 on November 10, 2016, 08:46:06 AM
Forrest ruined the last one that was having a party.

Beat the hell out of that honkey ass commie
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 10, 2016, 08:54:23 AM
I quoted those selected lines for a reason. He no longer needs to pander to those shitbags. You can argue that he never did. I disagree. The Klan didn't just pick him at random to believe he supports their agenda. He's the president of the United States of America now. If there's any chance we keep our shit together with him at the helm, he needs to start coming out and explicitly disavowing shit like this.

Completely agree!

Co-signed,

Barack Obama
#BLM

I know, I know...2 wrongs don't make a right. But it's the exact same thing...
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 10, 2016, 08:55:59 AM
The new black panthers absolutely endorsed Obama.  And the BLM movement absolutely endorsed Hillary.  Both groups are as racist as the KKK.

K's right, candidate can't help who endorses.

You do realize that only whitey can be racist now, right?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: GH2001 on November 10, 2016, 10:32:24 AM
Completely agree!

Co-signed,

Barack Obama
#BLM

I know, I know...2 wrongs don't make a right. But it's the exact same thing...

I thought trump already disavowed the klan? How many times will he need to do it to satisfy the namby pambies?
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 10, 2016, 11:09:14 PM
I'll take the outliers role here. I predict a 3 point Trump win.
Pretty impressive^^^^^
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUChizad on November 13, 2016, 12:57:36 PM
But hey, he's got an R after his name…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/10/13/trump-just-laid-out-a-pretty-radical-student-debt-plan/
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Kaos on November 13, 2016, 03:38:22 PM
But hey, he's got an R after his name…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/10/13/trump-just-laid-out-a-pretty-radical-student-debt-plan/

1) Oct 13.
2) Nothing wrong with this.  I agree that dumbass millenials who get art degrees followed by English degrees followed by philosophy degrees followed by humanities degrees and then wonder when all they can get is a job at Starbucks contribute to this situation but the amount of student debt owed by the average student  is ridiculous. So. This doesn't sound like the worst idea I've heard.  It's better than hers.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 13, 2016, 04:01:51 PM
1) Oct 13.
2) Nothing wrong with this.  I agree that dumbass millenials who get art degrees followed by English degrees followed by philosophy degrees followed by humanities degrees and then wonder when all they can get is a job at Starbucks contribute to this situation but the amount of student debt owed by the average student  is ridiculous. So. This doesn't sound like the worst idea I've heard.  It's better than hers.

No reason for tuition to be as high as it is, but when anyone can get a loan, colleges decided to raise tution at rates that are not affordable.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 13, 2016, 05:01:50 PM
No reason for tuition to be as high as it is, but when anyone can get a loan, colleges decided to raise tution at rates that are not affordable.

You should know.  Being a career student and all.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 13, 2016, 05:22:19 PM
You should know.  Being a career student and all.

Exactly.  Too bad my loan is paid in full and luckly I got Mc.D's to pay for my MBA. 
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 13, 2016, 05:23:08 PM
I thought trump already disavowed the klan? How many times will he need to do it to satisfy the namby pambies?

At three times a day for the next four years.  Still probably won't be enough.
Title: Re: Winner and Margin
Post by: GH2001 on November 13, 2016, 07:52:01 PM
No reason for tuition to be as high as it is, but when anyone can get a loan, colleges decided to raise tution at rates that are not affordable.

Bingo.

Supply, meet demand. Artificially created demand.