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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Tiger Wench on April 28, 2015, 11:17:09 AM
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Trying to get that discussion out of my baseball thread...
I love how that mom is beating the hell out of that kid in front of the cops and no one cares except to encourage her. I know, not priority for them now but any other time, she goes to jail for snatching the little fucker up like that.
To paraphrase Rev Jesse, he wanted to know why the westside did not get the revitalization dollars that the downtown did. How can he look at what is happening and ask that question with a straight face?
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How can he look at what is happening and ask that question with a straight face?
Because if he doesn't, then the :miltie: going into his pocket dries up very quickly.
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Oppression makes people distrustful of all manner of authority. Whether it is real or not, perception rules these folks' reality and their answer to what is perceived as violence is violence. It's a vicious cycle that will not be broken anytime soon.
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Let it burn, let them burn the whole fucker down. Then when its all gone and they really have nothing they can build it from scratch they way they want to.
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Let it burn, let them burn the whole fucker down. Then when its all gone and they really have nothing they can build it from scratch they way they want to.
They will use your tax dollars to rebuild and make you like it. I, on the other hand, have a handy shelter that protects my holdings in an offshore account.
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They will use your tax dollars to rebuild and make you like it. I, on the other hand, have a handy shelter that protects my holdings in an offshore account.
No problem, at least they would be earning the dollars instead of sitting around on theirs ass collecting them .
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No problem, at least they would be earning the dollars instead of sitting around on theirs ass collecting them .
That's so cute that you actually expect them to work.
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That's so cute that you actually expect them to work.
Never make a post in anger. :facepalm:
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Short Version: Based on what I've seen so far, this is what it sounds like to me. Freddie Gray was selling crack (and likely high on crack) when one of his lookouts said, "look out mofo, heah come the po po".
Fredrick evacuated the area in an expedited manner when he saw the bicycle police.
They chased him, had a tazer party and drug him to the police van (because it appeared he was either making them carry him or his legs weren't working).
So, the question is did he do it to himself. I think so. The van is partitioned, so the other young gentleman who was also unjustly arrested, I'm sure, couldn't see him but heard some banging. Freddy got a bolt that was sticking out of the back of the van to the head. Wound was consistent to that, according to autopsy. Also, they figure that's what broke his neck. Injuries are stated in this article to be consistent with those of someone in a car wreck.
Bottom line, Freddy is black, riot thu...I mean the rioting Baltimore youth are black, city councilpersons are black, police commissioner is black, the president of the USA is black, the Atty General (not sure if we still have one) was or is black, and apparently the DA leading this investigation is black. There was not probable cause to arrest Freddy SO, those bicycle riding, black boy beating, white crackers have to pay. Plus, a few more for good measure. Love, WT
Freddie Gray's death ruled a homicide; six Baltimore officers charged
By Michael Walsh
1 hour ago
Yahoo News
Baltimore's State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby announced Friday morning that several officers involved in the death of Freddie Gray will face homicide charges.
“To the people of Baltimore and the demonstrators across America, I heard your call for ‘no justice, no peace.’ Your peace is sincerely needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man,†she said.
Six Baltimore police officers have been criminally charged: Officer Caesar Goodson, Officer William Porter, Lt. Brian Rice, Officer Edward Nero, Officer Garrett Miller and Sgt. Alicia White.
The charges, which vary for each person, include — second-degree murder, manslaughter, misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Goodson faces second-degree depraved heart murder, which indicates a "callous disregard for the value of human life."
“I hope that as we move forward with this case, everyone will respect due process and refrain from doing anything that will jeopardize our ability to seek justice,†she said.
Mosby emphasized that the allegations against the officers involved in Gray’s arrest are not an indictment against the entire police department.
She shared that both of her parents, several of her aunts and uncles and her late grandfather were all cops.
“The actions of these officers will not and should not in any way damage the important working relationships between police and prosecutors,†she said, “as we continue to fight together to reduce crime in Baltimore.â€
Mosby says that Gray was illegally arrested and that the police involved did not establish probable cause.
Though what she revealed is now a matter of public record, much of the evidence will be withheld to ensure a “fair and impartial process for all parties involved.â€
Baltimore Police Department Commissioner Anthony Batts announces that the department's investiga …
As the public waits for more information, details from the investigation have slowly begun trickling out.
According to multiple reports, the medical examiner found that Gray’s head struck a bolt that jutted out in the back of the police van.
A law enforcement official told the Washington Post that this was not the 25-year-old man’s only injury, and that his wounds were consistent with those generally seen in car crashes.
Multiple police sources told WJLA that the head wound corresponds with a bolt in the back of the vehicle, and that the impact broke Gray’s neck.
It was not immediately clear what caused the blow while he was in custody, according to the sources.
The investigation did not uncover evidence connecting the videotaped portion of his arrest — which helped to spur protest and riots in the streets of Baltimore — with the young man’s death, according to the local ABC affiliate.
Police Commissioner Anthony Batts said at a news conference Thursday that the results were turned over to Mosby one day before a deadline he established.
“I set a date to get this done,†he said. “I was communicating clearly; I wanted a sense of urgency on this case to get the results out there. We dedicated 30 detectives, their full-time job was focused on this case and only this case.â€
Many protesters are anxious to hear what the detectives uncovered — especially amid claims by his family’s lawyer, Billy Murphy, that his spine had been “80 percent severed.â€
On April 12, the officers picked up a prisoner during the roughly 40-minute drive to the police station; Gray was unresponsive upon arrival.
The Washington Post reported that the prisoner, who could not see Gray because they were separated by a metal partition, thought that the young man “was intentionally trying to injure himself†by “banging against the walls."
The D.C. paper found this account in an application for a search warrant that had been sealed by the court. Authorities were reportedly seeking the uniform one of the arresting officers wore the day of Gray’s arrest.
But Donta Allen, who identified himself as the man in the van with Gray, told WJZ-TV that the report is inaccurate and that he just heard “a little banging.â€
“And they trying to make it seem like I told them that, I made it like Freddie Gray did that to hisself [sic],†Allen said to the station. “Why the f--- would he do that to hisself [sic]?â€
Police revealed that the van made a stop on the way to the station that was not appropriately logged. Gray died in a hospital one week later.
A report from the Carroll County, Md., Sheriff’s Office, obtained by The Associated Press, indicates that one of the officers suspended following Gray’s death has had his mental stability called into question.
Lt. Brian Rice, the officer who initially pursued Gray, had been hospitalized in April 2012 over mental health concerns; at the time, he reportedly said he “could not continue to go on like this†and threatened to commit an act that was censored from the public version of the report.
Batts emphasized that the task force heeded his call and has exhausted every lead at this point in time, but that does not mean their investigation is over.
“The family and the community and the public deserve transparency and truth,†he said.
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Whichever way they decide to smite these honkies, I'm just glad that here at the X we can all come together to promote the pursuit of rule of law and justice.
Just like the Crips and Bloods.
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Ebony and Ebony, come together in perfect harmony
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I-I-I-I-I am everyday people.
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Until America elects a black, female, lesbian, and transgender questioning for President, there will be no peace.
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Until America elects a black, female, lesbian, and transgender questioning for President, there will be no peace.
I disagree.
Sani would have this shit straightened out quick. Sani '16.
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I disagree.
Sani would have this shit straightened out quick. Sani '16.
Sani is good with 16, even if it is a bit older than his ideal
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"Kids Need Love Too"
Sani '16
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Kip Winger disagrees
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Weird occurrence just now. I logged on to the innerwebz and Foxnewz had a breaking story that police had just shot a black dude multiple times in Baltimore. Conflicting eye witness reports. He had a gun...didn't have a gun. The usual. Went back on a few minutes later and the story has been taken down and I don't see anything about it on teh Googled Chromes. Either something weird is going on or the shrooms I just did are kicking in quicker than I thought.
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Weird occurrence just now. I logged on to the innerwebz and Foxnewz had a breaking story that police had just shot a black dude multiple times in Baltimore. Conflicting eye witness reports. He had a gun...didn't have a gun. The usual. Went back on a few minutes later and the story has been taken down and I don't see anything about it on teh Googled Chromes. Either something weird is going on or the shrooms I just did are kicking in quicker than I thought.
Sounds like normal life. Rougly 8/10ths of all "someone kilt" calls ultimately find no one even nearly kilt.
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Last officer acquitted of all charges.
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Get ready for the riots.
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Get ready for the riots.
Good, they finish what they started in their hoods.
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I look forward the upcoming democratic sit in to protest this latest outrage against the black community.
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I look forward the upcoming democratic sit in to protest this latest outrage against the black community.
Sit in protest my black ass. This deserves some interstate blockage by slow walking and some white motorists being beaten or kilt.
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https://youtu.be/B77Sbg4yknw
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https://youtu.be/B77Sbg4yknw
What would make that better would be to have the actual Frogger game sounds.
http://free-loops.com/5088-frogger-game-audio.html
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What would make that better would be to have the actual Frogger game sounds.
http://free-loops.com/5088-frogger-game-audio.html
I was thinking what would make it better is a tank, no pushing bodies, just squishing them.
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I don't laugh at that trigger shit. I feel that way every morning in in this place walking to work. Find a colorful chick and follow her. They at least slow down for them!
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It's all burning.
Cops in Louisiana. Cops in Minnesota. Black outrage. Lesson? When a police officer tells you to be still, that's not the time to try to engage in a discussion. Be fucking still.
Officers told you have a gun and you're trying to get into your pockets while they hold you on the ground? Dead.
You take the word of some woman who's ridiculously calm after her boyfriend was shot that he was "just" doing whatever? You have no idea what the officer said or saw in the moments prior to her starting to film. But ok, let's riot.
I've seen countless editorials from black people saying "we can get shot just for getting an ID or for complying."
Charlie is watching this, playing Helter Skelter in his head and smiling.
It's going to blow up at some point and it won't be pretty.
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It's all burning.
Cops in Louisiana. Cops in Minnesota. Black outrage. Lesson? When a police officer tells you to be still, that's not the time to try to engage in a discussion. Be fucking still.
Officers told you have a gun and you're trying to get into your pockets while they hold you on the ground? Dead.
You take the word of some woman who's ridiculously calm after her boyfriend was shot that he was "just" doing whatever? You have no idea what the officer said or saw in the moments prior to her starting to film. But ok, let's riot.
I've seen countless editorials from black people saying "we can get shot just for getting an ID or for complying."
Charlie is watching this, playing Helter Skelter in his head and smiling.
It's going to blow up at some point and it won't be pretty.
My initial reaction to the Mn shooting isn't like the rest. There isn't enough info out to be able to judge much but so far, it seems like a trigger happy cop to me.
Ever seen the video of the cop shooting a man after asking him to get his registration? Cop was later fired but this seems very plausible in this instance. I don't know the proper procedure but I would assume that it should be to secure the firearm after the citizen announced that he has one BEFORE asking him for his license.
Why in the hell does he need to see the passengers license anyway?
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My initial reaction to the Mn shooting isn't like the rest. There isn't enough info out to be able to judge much but so far, it seems like a trigger happy cop to me.
Ever seen the video of the cop shooting a man after asking him to get his registration? Cop was later fired but this seems very plausible in this instance. I don't know the proper procedure but I would assume that it should be to secure the firearm after the citizen announced that he has one BEFORE asking him for his license.
Why in the hell does he need to see the passengers license anyway?
You'll hate this, but I agree.
Cops in Louisiana. Cops in Minnesota. Black outrage. Lesson? When a police officer tells you to be still, that's not the time to try to engage in a discussion. Be fucking still.
Officers told you have a gun and you're trying to get into your pockets while they hold you on the ground? Dead.
With this, I agree. The video looks like he may have been restrained enough that deadly force wasn't 100% necessary, but it's hard to say. And what is abundantly clear is that he definitely resisted arrest and he definitely continued to move when they straight up yelled at him "If you fucking move I swear to God".
Don't do that, and you live to tell about it.
You take the word of some woman who's ridiculously calm after her boyfriend was shot that he was "just" doing whatever? You have no idea what the officer said or saw in the moments prior to her starting to film. But ok, let's riot.
I've seen countless editorials from black people saying "we can get shot just for getting an ID or for complying."
This, I disagree on. I've seen a lot of people make similar comments. First of all, speculating on the psychology of this woman as her husband bled out next to her...you think you know how you would handle these situations, but you just don't. I've seen plenty of crime documentaries where the people who called 911 were called into question for being too calm about it when reporting the death. It is a way more common reaction than you'd think. Also, it's not clear that he was dead at the beginning of the video, and as that became clearer, she was clearly becoming more and more emotional.
More importantly: What did you want her to do there? Scream and yell and swat at the cops? I don't think getting extremely emotional would have made the situation better. It probably would have agitated the cop more and made it worse. I commend her for keeping cool and collected while documenting what transpired.
Bottom line, the way the Baton Rouge guy reacted was wrong. It got him killed. The way this guy (allegedly) and his wife reacted was right. He told the officer he had a firearm, which he was registered to carry. That's what the BR guy should have done from the beginning. The officer allegedly asked for his license and registration, and when he complied (something else the BR guy didn't do), the cop shot him. I honestly don't know what you or anyone else wanted him to do in that situation.
I could be completely wrong and it could come out that the wife's account is exaggerated or not exactly correct. I see no reason not to give her the benefit of the doubt and that her account is entirely plausible.
The cop is shouting/screaming/crying "I TOLD HIM NOT TO MOVE!" Maybe he's telling the truth. Her calm, collected telling of the story seems more coherent and more plausible to me.
Why no dash or body cam? I thought they were required now? It seems they always conveniently malfunction when it could either corroborate their story or disprove it...
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Just imagine for a second that you get taunted, cussed at, things thrown at you and everybody hates you for general purpose every day of your professional career. Then, as a part of your job, you have to go talk to someone that is belligerent and was reported to have a gun in their possession. Then, said individual, as you are trying to arrest him starts reaching into his pocket for something while fighting you off. Whatcha gonna do?
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Just imagine for a second that you get taunted, cussed at, things thrown at you and everybody hates you for general purpose every day of your professional career. Then, as a part of your job, you have to go talk to someone that is belligerent and was reported to have a gun in their possession. Then, said individual, as you are trying to arrest him starts reaching into his pocket for something while fighting you off. Whatcha gonna do?
Yes. That is relevant to the Baton Rouge case and I agree.
The MN case, if the wife's account is true, which at this point I have no reason to believe it's not, that doesn't apply. He was licensed to carry. He told the cop he had a gun. The cop asked for his license. He reached for it. The cop shot him for complying.
If you're a 2A advocate, you're not being consistent if you think he should have been killed for having a licensed firearm in his car and willingly offering that information to the police.
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Yes. That is relevant to the Baton Rouge case and I agree.
The MN case, if the wife's account is true, which at this point I have no reason to believe it's not, that doesn't apply. He was licensed to carry. He told the cop he had a gun. The cop asked for his license. He reached for it. The cop shot him for complying.
If you're a 2A advocate, you're not being consistent if you think he should have been killed for having a licensed firearm in his car and willingly offering that information to the police.
Agreed as well. Just hearing the sound of that cop's voice in her video, he panicked and screwed up. Badly.
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Agreed as well. Just hearing the sound of that cop's voice in her video, he panicked and screwed up. Badly.
And unfortunately, when a cop screws up, someone dies. Either the cop or the bad guy. It sucks, but it's the nature of the business.
Here is the part that I have a huge problem with. The "police brutality", "Black Lives Matter" shit is the chicken or the egg theory.
Do blacks think they are getting shot because of police brutality picking on black people? Or do police have itchy trigger fingers because blacks hate the cops and some tend to resist arrest or act belligerent? I know that all blacks don't resist or act belligerent, and I also know that all cops don't want to kill blacks.
In life I try to live life by a simple philosophy. O. A. R.
Owner
Accountable
Responsible
For example, in my job, if I can not get through to a customer because of whatever reason, I have to look at what I am doing to prevent that from happening. What can I do better to get past any objections or any negativity that the client may have. I am responsible for MY success and only I am responsible for what happens to my well being. I can't help that the customer may not like me, or his wife or husband pissed him off. I can make excuses and say well it's not my fault, or I can take responsibility that MY actions didn't get him or her to see things my way. Ultimately, it is MY responsibility. No excuses.
Who in the black community is going to take ownership of what is happening. Instead of blaming everyone, why not take responsibility for SOME blacks acting like idiots. Be an owner, accountable and responsible of WHY the police have itchy trigger fingers. They are never going to be able to combat what they feel is racist behavior or police brutality, but who is going to step up and say they CAN be responsible for how they act and teach their kids to act? Until that happens, the divide will continue to grow farther apart unfortunately.
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2 cops down in Dallas protest. They showed it live on foxnews and they had to cut the cameras away. It looked bad. I saw two maybe 3 cops lying face down on the ground lifeless. Savage sons of bitches who did this. F this world.
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Obviously the answer to any injustice, real or perceived, is to loot and shoot anything in sight.
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Obviously the answer to any injustice, real or perceived, is to loot and shoot anything in sight.
Fucking this^^^^ No excuses!!!
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Fucking this^^^^ No excuses!!!
Makes sense to organize a peaceful protest against killing innocent people and then killing some more innocent people.
They are saying 3 dead cops now. I knew watching the live feed those guys weren't getting up. It was awful. Not sure why the police are negotiating with the guy. Just blow the sick mfer's head off.
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Yes. That is relevant to the Baton Rouge case and I agree.
The MN case, if the wife's account is true, which at this point I have no reason to believe it's not, that doesn't apply. He was licensed to carry. He told the cop he had a gun. The cop asked for his license. He reached for it. The cop shot him for complying.
If you're a 2A advocate, you're not being consistent if you think he should have been killed for having a licensed firearm in his car and willingly offering that information to the police.
That's my only point of contention. I don't take her at her word. I've seen too much.
When I used to own the furniture stores I had to get police to do ride alongs with me sometimes to pick up merchandise from people who'd threatened my employees. Until, that is, until I was at a point where I didn't care if I lived or died and then I just busted up in there and let the chips fall. But I digress.
We'd knock on the door and some dude would answer.
"Nah, man I don't live here. I'm just visitin, so I can't let you in. Naw. She ain't here. Don't know where she is or when she be back."
And I'd see her looking out the window or running out the back door or whatever.
Pull into a neighborhood and see a kid you KNEW lived there because you'd rented his mother some furniture. Ask him if he knows where Apartment 2B is and he says "Nah, man, I don't live in this neighborhood."
Lie to me, lie to cops, lie without a second thought.
So no, I don't believe her automatically. Maybe he WAS just reaching for his ID. Maybe he did tell the officer he had a gun. But I'm not taking her word for it. Easy to claim it in retrospect. I'd need other witnesses to verify. Or the guy's shoulder cam or something.
i also think it's fucking hilarious how many of these people were wonderful church-going, god-loving, saints who never did nothing wrong to nobody.
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That's my only point of contention. I don't take her at her word. I've seen too much.
When I used to own the furniture stores I had to get police to do ride alongs with me sometimes to pick up merchandise from people who'd threatened my employees. Until, that is, until I was at a point where I didn't care if I lived or died and then I just busted up in there and let the chips fall. But I digress.
We'd knock on the door and some dude would answer.
"Nah, man I don't live here. I'm just visitin, so I can't let you in. Naw. She ain't here. Don't know where she is or when she be back."
And I'd see her looking out the window or running out the back door or whatever.
Pull into a neighborhood and see a kid you KNEW lived there because you'd rented his mother some furniture. Ask him if he knows where Apartment 2B is and he says "Nah, man, I don't live in this neighborhood."
Lie to me, lie to cops, lie without a second thought.
So no, I don't believe her automatically. Maybe he WAS just reaching for his ID. Maybe he did tell the officer he had a gun. But I'm not taking her word for it. Easy to claim it in retrospect. I'd need other witnesses to verify. Or the guy's shoulder cam or something.
i also think it's fucking hilarious how many of these people were wonderful church-going, god-loving, saints who never did nothing wrong to nobody.
Unless. They didn't?
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The kid in Minnesota by all accounts seemed like a good kid. That one may very well have been an unfortunate situation and mistake. Just don't know. Also doesn't mean it was racial. Sometimes bad things happen like that and it is NOT racial. Newsflash right!?
Dude in Baton Rouge had a gun. A loaded gun. He was warned. He didn't cooperate. Sorry that it happened but he did NOTHING TO avoid that situation. Easy to hindsight what these cops should and shouldn't do but walk a mile in their shoes and the shit they have to put up with.
I'd like tokens take here. He always has good sense with this stuff. And I would like to apologize to all cops for the way our president has demonized you all. You deserve a president that has your back.
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Read this thread.
https://twitter.com/John_P_Carvalho/status/751179232622108673
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Read this thread.
https://twitter.com/John_P_Carvalho/status/751179232622108673
No thank you.
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Read this thread.
https://twitter.com/John_P_Carvalho/status/751179232622108673
He makes a lot of good points.
The media sells their country down the toilet for their own sinister purposes.
And frankly so does our president with his words and deflections from the root causes
We've created a country of emotional reactions. Purposely. Because people can't think straight when they get emotional and huffy. This makes great ratings and creates chaos. I'll admit I've gotten emotional over last night since it happened. I'm angry about it. About all of it. This is all ridiculous. We're on the verge of a civil war. And the media and our leaders in charge could careless. And it pisses me off. We have cops dead now. And it shouldn't have fucking happened.
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No thank you.
I'm agreeing with you, so you might want to. They're the good kind of facts from your perspective.
A lot of Auburn twitter are being smug assholes and think statistical data is racist.
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I'm agreeing with you, so you might want to. They're the good kind of facts from your perspective.
A lot of Auburn twitter are being smug assholes and think statistical data is racist.
I'll read an article or something, but I'm old. I can't make shit for sense out of a tweeter battle. It looks like hieroglyphics to me. Should have clarified that.
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I'm agreeing with you, so you might want to. They're the good kind of facts from your perspective.
A lot of Auburn twitter are being smug assholes and think statistical data is racist.
Lot of very inconvenient truths in that write up. It's why th media and our leaders wants to invoke a totally emotional response because at that point facts go out the window. It's so easy to see.
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I'll read an article or something, but I'm old. I can't make shit for sense out of a tweeter battle. It looks like hieroglyphics to me. Should have clarified that.
It's just a Twitter post that has a link to a well written article.
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It's just a Twitter post that has a link to a well written article.
I don't understand tweeter. Seriously. He said "read this thread" So I looked at it and couldn't make one bit of sense out of it. I can never tell who is talking to whom or how any of it connects. I didn't see an article.
That's on me, not Chizad. I know other people get it.
Modified: Oh, fuck. It's that Carvhalo motherfucker. I HATE that guy. I knew I recognized that name from somewhere. Smug, condescending, communist asshole.
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I don't understand tweeter. Seriously. He said "read this thread" So I looked at it and couldn't make one bit of sense out of it. I can never tell who is talking to whom or how any of it connects. I didn't see an article.
That's on me, not Chizad. I know other people get it.
Modified: Oh, fuck. It's that Carvhalo motherfucker. I HATE that guy. I knew I recognized that name from somewhere. Smug, condescending, communist asshole.
He just linked another article is all.
This is it:
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/police-shootings-aren-t-a-white-or-black-problem-070716
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It's just a Twitter post that has a link to a well written article.
Well the specific tweet I posted is John Carvalho saying not to read it because it contains hatefacts.
I challenged him on some of his bullshit statements in the tweets, and he reverted to his safe space.
I'll transcribe:
â€@John_P_Carvalho
I had to force myself to read this to confirm that it is both bad thinking and bad citizenship. Avoid.
@aaronelake
@John_P_Carvalho Was I wrong to take the mention of the black murder rate as saying the community brought these slayings on themselves?
@aaronelake
Note that poverty is the statistical predictor of crime. Race is the statistical predictor of fatal police shootings.
@aaronelake
@John_P_Carvalho Yeah, I stopped reading at that graph. Clay is smart enough to understand the red herring/associative fallacy he put there.
@AUChizad
@aaronelake @John_P_Carvalho If you don't understand how being in confrontation w/ police for violent crime 5x more often might (1/2)
@AUChizad 53m53 minutes ago
@aaronelake @John_P_Carvalho Be relevant in explaining why there's 2.5x over-representation in police shootings, I can't help you…(2/2)
@ScoopPhillips
@AUChizad @aaronelake @John_P_Carvalho Sometimes people don't like facts
@John_P_Carvalho
@ScoopPhillips @AUChizad @aaronelake Poverty is the predictor for crime; race is the predictor for police shootings.
@AUChizad
@John_P_Carvalho @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake Link to data supporting supporting this? Police shooting victims are mostly upper/middle class?
@John_P_Carvalho 44m44 minutes ago
@AUChizad @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake I must have said it wrong. That's the opposite of what I meant ha
@AUChizad
@John_P_Carvalho @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake Then I fail to see your point. Not being confrontational, explain.
@aaronelake
@ScoopPhillips @AUChizad @John_P_Carvalho No, just don't like generalizing and grouping people in a way that unfairly places blame.
@AUChizad
@aaronelake @ScoopPhillips @John_P_Carvalho With statistical facts that refute a false narrative you believe?
@aaronelake
@AUChizad @ScoopPhillips @John_P_Carvalho .000567% of the black population committed murder last year. That's enough to make police uneasy?
@AUChizad
@aaronelake @ScoopPhillips @John_P_Carvalho No one at all is saying that, by the way. Not the point of bringing up that statistic.
@aaronelake
@ScoopPhillips @AUChizad @John_P_Carvalho No, just don't like generalizing and grouping people in a way that unfairly places blame.
@ScoopPhillips
@aaronelake @AUChizad @John_P_Carvalho But that's what you did yesterday.
@AUChizad
@aaronelake @ScoopPhillips @John_P_Carvalho Not Clay's word. Statistical fact as reported by the FBI and Washington Post...
@ScoopPhillips
@aaronelake @AUChizad @John_P_Carvalho They aren't a generalization. They clearly show race isn't a dominating factor in police shootings.
@John_P_Carvalho
@ScoopPhillips @aaronelake @AUChizad I'm backing off of this discussion. Just where I'm at today re Twitter. Please delete me.
@AUChizad
@John_P_Carvalho @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake This is not how you have an open fact-based dialogue, John…
@John_P_Carvalho
@AUChizad @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake We obviously have a difference of opinion on that, and I'm fine with that.
@AUChizad
@John_P_Carvalho @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake On what? That statistical facts are relevant in a discussion about generalizing these incidents?
@John_P_Carvalho
@AUChizad @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake On the purpose, direction and results of discussions like this.
@AUChizad
@John_P_Carvalho @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake I think grossly misrepresenting the demographics of these cases leads to more division/hatred.
@AUChizad
@John_P_Carvalho @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake And more contempt for police, leading to more of these situations. I guess we do disagree.
@John_P_Carvalho 31m31 minutes ago
True. But in polite society, when someone asks to be excused, the courteous response is to grant it. @AUChizad @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake
@AUChizad
Sorry for not respecting your safe space, John. Dismissed. @John_P_Carvalho @ScoopPhillips @aaronelake
Note that in his last tweet, he put the names at the end. This is a way to sick your own followers who may not follow the other person in the conversation on them. If you don't follow more than one person in the conversation, you won't see tweets with the names at the beginning. He wants to make sure he holds me up as an example of an evil racist spewing hatefacts for all his self-righteous followers to condemn.
Fucking pussy.
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Well the specific tweet I posted is John Carvalho saying not to read it because it contains hatefacts.
I challenged him on some of his bullshit statements in the tweets, and he reverted to his safe space.
I'll transcribe:
Note that in his last tweet, he put the names at the end. This is a way to sick your own followers who may not follow the other person in the conversation on them. If you don't follow more than one person in the conversation, you won't see tweets with the names at the beginning. He wants to make sure he holds me up as an example of an evil racist spewing hatefacts for all his self-righteous followers to condemn.
Fucking pussy.
*sniff*
That's the you I love.
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*sniff*
That's the you I love.
I'm consistent. Facts matter. Always.
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I'm consistent. Facts matter. Always.
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Well the specific tweet I posted is John Carvalho saying not to read it because it contains hatefacts.
I challenged him on some of his bullshit statements in the tweets, and he reverted to his safe space.
I'll transcribe:
Note that in his last tweet, he put the names at the end. This is a way to sick your own followers who may not follow the other person in the conversation on them. If you don't follow more than one person in the conversation, you won't see tweets with the names at the beginning. He wants to make sure he holds me up as an example of an evil racist spewing hatefacts for all his self-righteous followers to condemn.
Fucking pussy.
Agree with you on all of that.
And disagree with him on all of it.
I think we all agree on this one.
That is all.
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I don't twatter so please to be schoolifying me on it. How do you tell who is writing the twat? If you see @JohnDoe followed immediately by @PilsburyDoe, does that mean John Doe is talking to P-Doe and addressing his twat, or vice versa?
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I don't twatter so please to be schoolifying me on it. How do you tell who is writing the twat? If you see @JohnDoe followed immediately by @PilsburyDoe, does that mean John Doe is talking to P-Doe and addressing his twat, or vice versa?
I love to address the twat. But not just any twat.
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I don't twatter so please to be schoolifying me on it. How do you tell who is writing the twat? If you see @JohnDoe followed immediately by @PilsburyDoe, does that mean John Doe is talking to P-Doe and addressing his twat, or vice versa?
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I love to address the twat. But not just any twat.
I popped the twat late last night. It's why I'm dragging today.
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Semi srs. I get lost in who is talking to who. Are tons of other people watching the dialogue or is it just those listed as @? This quote from Chizzy confused my feeble brain.
"Note that in his last tweet, he put the names at the end. This is a way to sick your own followers who may not follow the other person in the conversation on them."
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I'm not even a tweeter and I had zero trouble interpreting all of this. Easy.
But then again, I'm not a dumbass.
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I'm not even a tweeter and I had zero trouble interpreting all of this. Easy.
But then again, I'm not a dumbass.
You can say it as many times as you want but the Judge ruled on that one long ago.
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You can say it as many times as you want but the Judge ruled on that one long ago.
But was it due process?
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But was it due process?
Yep. Took him 5 minutes.
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Yep. Took him 5 minutes.
Sounds good to me. We should also bring back firing squads and hangings in public. No mambypamby bs anymore.
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Semi srs. I get lost in who is talking to who. Are tons of other people watching the dialogue or is it just those listed as @? This quote from Chizzy confused my feeble brain.
"Note that in his last tweet, he put the names at the end. This is a way to sick your own followers who may not follow the other person in the conversation on them."
If you click the links it's clearer. When I'm quoting them here, I put the name of the person writing the tweet first, then on the next line I put the tweet. That includes the names of the people they're replying to. If the second line in my quote doesn't start with the names, they're trying to put it out there for more people to see, rather than have it be a conversation where people who follow us both may catch it.
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And PS, I'm not gonna transcribe this, but the conversation has continued sans John's bitch ass.
https://twitter.com/peanutgallery10/status/751438197125705729
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I just watched the Baton Rouge video. After they shot him, the officer walks over and pulls something out of the perps oversized front pocket while he was still on the ground and dying. Certainly consistent with it being a gun. Appears to be a .22 or .25.
But cops are the bad guys according to the youtube comments. They are in the "KKK" and racist pigs.
Regardless of the fact that this guy apparently wouldn't comply with their requests, was a convicted felon, gang member and had a gun. All of this according to what I've read. Have no idea if it's true. Also read he was a chester molester and didn't register--twice.
We really do need a fence in this country and people who believe that what these cops did was wrong and this guy with that rap sheet was wronged, and they need to stay on the opposite side of my side. Because we will never get along. Never.
I want to be on the side with the cops. Sure, they make mistakes and there are bad ones. But if this felon and reported gang member had complied, he'd be alive.
Mn shooting totally different. I think the cop screwed up from what I've seen so far.
Regardless, I don't get these stupid ass people who protest in a city 1,000 miles away from where it actually happened. The Dallas police didn't have anything to do with La or Mn. But "lets go shoot 10 of them."
Belize is calling. Or, maybe Scotland.
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He had a gun. A loaded one. And the cops eluded to it on the video. Dude has a sheet a mile long as well. But fuck that. Let's create a nice soft media narrative to gloss over facts.
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It is interesting to me the angle that the media seems to always take. They cover up the extensive record that perp has and turn him into a victim. I won't go to the trouble of listing this guys record but it's googleable. I found this:
"Records show that Sterling was registered sex offender with a lengthy criminal record that included convictions for weapons offenses, confrontations with police officers, property crimes, and domestic violence and other batteries. You can read court records pertaining to Sterling at the top of this post." And he has a rap sheet going back many years. No, that doesn't mean that he deserved to be shot because of that. Yes, it proves that he was not the angel of a man that the media seems to want to make him.
ALL of these guys aren't simply being shot for no reason. This guy was a convicted felon and had a gun. He had been arrested for the same before.
I don't know if he went for it or not, based on the video. But it stands to reason that he did. I don't believe that the officer shot him because he was black.
But this slobberfest is sickening. It's always a completely innocent "victim" being oppressed by "white" policemen.
Journalism of today is more about promoting an agenda than reporting news but at least try to hide it.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-killed-by-louisiana-police-said-to-be-gentle-led-hardscrabble-life/ar-BBu1iof
The black man shot dead by police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, was described by those who knew him as a fun-loving guy who scraped together a living selling music recorded on compact discs.
The father of five had been arrested several times in his 37 years of life, and a felony conviction landed him on a list of sex offenders.
Alton Sterling, 37, was shot at close range by two white police officers at about 12:30 a.m. CDT on Tuesday.
The shooting, captured on cell phone videos, aggravated the unrest that has coursed through the United States for two years over the use of excessive force by police, especially against black men.
Relatives and acquaintances of Sterling from his Baton Rouge neighborhood described him as a local fixture who had been peddling CDs, DVDs and games for years in front of the Triple S Food Mart, where the shooting took place. The money he made supported him and his children.
"He was a very nice guy, always smiling and laughing and joking," said store owner Abdullah Muflahi, who said he considered Sterling a friend.
Sharida Sterling, a cousin who grew up with Sterling, said he was often harassed by police outside the store, attention that she and others said was unwarranted.
"I'd never seen him get out of hand with anyone," said Elvina Scott, who lives nearby and said she bought a CD from Sterling a few minutes before he was shot.
Baton Rouge police officials said officers had responded to a call that a black man was making threats with a gun. They said Sterling was armed when they arrived.
Shopkeeper Muflahi said Sterling had recently gotten a gun to protect himself from possible robberies, but he did not see a weapon in friend's hand during the encounter with police.
According to the Louisiana Department of Corrections, Sterling was convicted in 2000 for a crime against a minor that led him to spend about four years in prison and be registered as a sex offender.
A court document reviewed by Reuters showed that he was accused of having sex with a 14-year-old girl and impregnating her when he was 20.
Sterling was arrested several times after his release in 2004. His most recent conviction was in 2011 for illegally carrying a weapon, the Corrections Department said.
In November 2015, on his Facebook page where he smiled from many of his photos, Sterling posted a blurry picture of himself in what appears to be handcuffs with the caption, "To all facebook friends and family Im gone to do my time."
Louisiana arrest records showed that he was taken into custody at about the time of the posting, but they did not specify the reason. An arrest warrant had been issued in August 2015 after Sterling was accused by prosecutors of violating the terms of his sex offender registry program.
Those who knew Sterling, a 5-foot-11-inch, 300-pound man referred to as "Big Alton" in notes left at a makeshift memorial outside the convenience store, said he did not deserve to die from what many saw as more heavy-handed treatment of racial minorities by police.
"He was a good man," said Jamese Perry, who held a sign outside the store on Wednesday to let people know about a vigil for Sterling, who had dated her cousin.
"Never bothered anyone," she added. "Gentle."
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USA Today has careened badly to the left. It's treatment of Trump is distressingly bad.
And today, a day after the shootings in Dallas, it's already chastising the DPD for "wrongly accusing" an armed black man last night.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shootings-person-of-interest-cleared-shootings/86846410/
The dude is walking down the street with a fucking rifle. Reasonable assumption to want to find him and get his story. But NOOOOOOOOO, bad racist cops for looking for a black man with a weapon.
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USA Today has careened badly to the left. It's treatment of Trump is distressingly bad.
And today, a day after the shootings in Dallas, it's already chastising the DPD for "wrongly accusing" an armed black man last night.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shootings-person-of-interest-cleared-shootings/86846410/
The dude is walking down the street with a fucking rifle. Reasonable assumption to want to find him and get his story. But NOOOOOOOOO, bad racist cops for looking for a black man with a weapon.
You're second amendmenting wrong.
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Meanwhile, more police being shot in Tennessee, Missouri, and Georgia...
There will be more before the morning...
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Meanwhile, more police being shot in Tennessee, Missouri, and Georgia...
There will be more before the morning...
Say it ain't so. The police are targets.
When will our leader give a speech to bring the country together? Ala reagans speech after Beirut and the challenger.
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Criminals are criminals. They have been for a long time, and they haven't changed. Will we ever live in a society where crime isn't a problem? Very doubtful.
So we need to look at law enforcement. There is a strong push in this country for law enforcement to be less militarized. A dialogue for law enforcement to be guardians and not warriors is out there. Unfortunately, Mayberry is a long ways behind us. I don't think we can get back to that small little town. I also don't believe asking for kind loving non agressive individuals who aren't capable of enforcing law against the level of criminal this country produces is a viable option.
Without having all of the facts, I believe the Louisiana shooting is a good shoot and I don't believe there was another way to handle that situation. They tried non lethal, the subject was combative and resisted while attempting to grab a lethal weapon. He escalated level of force. His fault, nobody else. The Minnisota shooting appears to be different. Again, without all of the facts, it appears as though he made a mistake. A deadly mistake.
So now, assuming the Mn shooting is a bad shoot) the question is why was was the deadly shooting of a innocent man who was simply trying to comply with orders? The answer to that is complicated but not impossible.
First and foremost, the problem is pay. I consider most people on this message board to be coherent and logical people. I believe nearly all of you could be a good law enforcement officer. The problem is, none of you would have been willing to work 12 hour shifts for $35,000 a year when you were picking a career. I don't blame you, just a day of CNN will show you that it isn't worth it. We demand police excellence as a country, but we don't equip our agencies with the salaries or benefit packages to attract the type of candidate that we want as law enforcement.
Second, (and it all stems from pay) we are forced to hire 20-24 year old kids either straight out of college or the military. Most of them have no real life experiences and the ones who do are behind the ball on most calls. If any of you were to call 911, it would probably be one of the few times in your life that you had to do it. Suffice it to say, if you called 911, it's because there is an emergency problem that you need help with right then. Very few of you are going to want some snot nosed kid coming to your house and helping you solve a domestic issue. What the fuck does he know? He's not married. He doesn't have any kids. Hell he probably doesn't even have a mortgage. Immediately there is a rift because you don't want a rookie 20 year old (who probably isn't well versed in all laws) giving you advice. I get it. Now we have a 20 year old rookie who is quickly becoming an asshole because he sense that you may have a slight attitude. See how quickly a problem gets worse? We HAVE to quit hiring kids.
3rd, we love college educated people. Everyone wants us to only hire college educated people. Problem is, criminal justice is a bullshit degree that means noting to me, as an administrator. We NEED to be looking at college level employees, but we need their degree to be in the psychology field. That's where law enforcement is heading. We need older men and women who are laid back enough to keep situations calm, a strong enough presence to control the scene and trained well enough to know when and how to de-escalate different types of personalities. On top of all of that, they need to know when a situation can't be talked down and how to quickly and efficiently use lethal force where there are minimum questions.
We are facing a tough challenge. It's going to get worse quickly if we don't stop what we are doing and find a different path. We all have our part in it. From the media all the way to the career agitators. We have to pay better to attract top quality candidates who are looking for a career. We have to quit working below adequate manpower and we should really stop the 12 hour shifts. It takes a toll on the body and mind and could be the determining factor in a late shift high stress situation.
Until our local governing bodies are ready to sit and have a serious conversation about these problems, our problems within the law enforcement community aren't going to stop.
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So, you're saying bgreene is a snot nosed punk?
Couldn't agree more on those sentiments. Helluva post.
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So, you're saying bgreene is a snot nosed punk?
Couldn't agree more on those sentiments. Helluva post.
I was mainly wondering if I was one of the ones who wouldn't make a good police officer. He really should specify.
FWIW, the same arguments could be made for education. Low pay, shitty hours, hiring kids, etc.
I do completely agree with what he said, though.
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Criminals are criminals. They have been for a long time, and they haven't changed. Will we ever live in a society where crime isn't a problem? Very doubtful.
So we need to look at law enforcement. There is a strong push in this country for law enforcement to be less militarized. A dialogue for law enforcement to be guardians and not warriors is out there. Unfortunately, Mayberry is a long ways behind us. I don't think we can get back to that small little town. I also don't believe asking for kind loving non agressive individuals who aren't capable of enforcing law against the level of criminal this country produces is a viable option.
Without having all of the facts, I believe the Louisiana shooting is a good shoot and I don't believe there was another way to handle that situation. They tried non lethal, the subject was combative and resisted while attempting to grab a lethal weapon. He escalated level of force. His fault, nobody else. The Minnisota shooting appears to be different. Again, without all of the facts, it appears as though he made a mistake. A deadly mistake.
So now, assuming the Mn shooting is a bad shoot) the question is why was was the deadly shooting of a innocent man who was simply trying to comply with orders? The answer to that is complicated but not impossible.
First and foremost, the problem is pay. I consider most people on this message board to be coherent and logical people. I believe nearly all of you could be a good law enforcement officer. The problem is, none of you would have been willing to work 12 hour shifts for $35,000 a year when you were picking a career. I don't blame you, just a day of CNN will show you that it isn't worth it. We demand police excellence as a country, but we don't equip our agencies with the salaries or benefit packages to attract the type of candidate that we want as law enforcement.
Second, (and it all stems from pay) we are forced to hire 20-24 year old kids either straight out of college or the military. Most of them have no real life experiences and the ones who do are behind the ball on most calls. If any of you were to call 911, it would probably be one of the few times in your life that you had to do it. Suffice it to say, if you called 911, it's because there is an emergency problem that you need help with right then. Very few of you are going to want some snot nosed kid coming to your house and helping you solve a domestic issue. What the fuck does he know? He's not married. He doesn't have any kids. Hell he probably doesn't even have a mortgage. Immediately there is a rift because you don't want a rookie 20 year old (who probably isn't well versed in all laws) giving you advice. I get it. Now we have a 20 year old rookie who is quickly becoming an asshole because he sense that you may have a slight attitude. See how quickly a problem gets worse? We HAVE to quit hiring kids.
3rd, we love college educated people. Everyone wants us to only hire college educated people. Problem is, criminal justice is a bullshit degree that means noting to me, as an administrator. We NEED to be looking at college level employees, but we need their degree to be in the psychology field. That's where law enforcement is heading. We need older men and women who are laid back enough to keep situations calm, a strong enough presence to control the scene and trained well enough to know when and how to de-escalate different types of personalities. On top of all of that, they need to know when a situation can't be talked down and how to quickly and efficiently use lethal force where there are minimum questions.
We are facing a tough challenge. It's going to get worse quickly if we don't stop what we are doing and find a different path. We all have our part in it. From the media all the way to the career agitators. We have to pay better to attract top quality candidates who are looking for a career. We have to quit working below adequate manpower and we should really stop the 12 hour shifts. It takes a toll on the body and mind and could be the determining factor in a late shift high stress situation.
Until our local governing bodies are ready to sit and have a serious conversation about these problems, our problems within the law enforcement community aren't going to stop.
^^^^Sometimes, I must admit that this guy makes sense, seems to know what he's talking about and is even seemingly articulate....for a cop.
I have one police story that could've ended badly. I was at work, wife out with boyfriend or something and kids at home with sitter. 3 year old calls 911 and hangs up. 11 year old, who looks like a white Jj from Good Times only a foot shorter and white (his mom is white) answers door to a policeman who has gun drawn and pointed. Kid runs back inside.
Got a lecture from the cop about not running from the PO Lice (cop's pronunciation) and it being a good way to get shot. Seems like he was a true Barney.
I believe the kid based on hearing about the cop. I didn't complain or even call about it. Actually don't know that he did anything wrong but it would've been easy to call back and talk to sitter, announce that someone was coming to check things out and clear it up. Instead, a surprise stop and a drawn gun freaked the now 15 year old out. I've had guns pointed at me too, so I know it's not a comforting feeling.
Have to feel like, although he was older, this officer was the type to shoot first and probably hasn't seen any training since squeaking through the academy.
And the part about pay is spot on. Unfortunately, I doubt throwing more money at police would help a tremendous amount. But they definitely deserve better pay.
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Former Miss America thinks the shooter was a martyr and feels "no sympathy" for the murdered police officers.
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/07/first_black_miss_alabama_says.html#incart_most-comments
mommy part.
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Former Miss America thinks the shooter was a martyr and feels "no sympathy" for the murdered police officers.
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/07/first_black_miss_alabama_says.html#incart_most-comments
mommy part.
Don't think she was Miss America but first "black" Miss Alabama, although she appears whiter than Chizad's ass. I mean....
I didn't watch all of her video. Have no problem with her feeling like shooter was a martyr because I know there are a lot of weirdos out there who feel the same. They feel like these black men are being "gunned down" and don't have a "voice" or "platform". That's reality that there is a large segment that feels that way.
I'm betting that over 90% of the "gunned down" were either commuting criminal acts AND had weapons. Yet, it's a racial thing since the numbers are disproportionately black?
I will never get why color matters in this. The Mn shooting is the only recent shooting where I see prejudice and trigger happiness and that's based on limited info. But I'm calling that one early.
Edit: And another thing! This attitude is propagated by the media. And a lot of these people who feel for the "martyr" simply are the sheep that can't reason for themselves.
Is there a problem in black communities? Of course. And it's not going away overnight and the police shouldn't be blamed. Poor black men commit a lot of crime. Is that racist to say if it's true? I don't know the statistics but I'm just making an uneducated generalization with that. Is it true?
If it is, then why is that the police's fault?
More training, more sensitivity to the issues are great. But don't deny facts just to be politically correct.
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Don't think she was Miss America but first "black" Miss Alabama, although she appears whiter than Chizad's ass. I mean....
I didn't watch all of her video. Have no problem with her feeling like shooter was a martyr because I know there are a lot of weirdos out there who feel the same. They feel like these black men are being "gunned down" and don't have a "voice" or "platform". That's reality that there is a large segment that feels that way.
I'm betting that over 90% of the "gunned down" were either commuting criminal acts AND had weapons. Yet, it's a racial thing since the numbers are disproportionately black?
I will never get why color matters in this. The Mn shooting is the only recent shooting where I see prejudice and trigger happiness and that's based on limited info. But I'm calling that one early.
The FBI has compiled a ton of statistics that reflect very accurately the problems in this great nation. People just don't like to talk about it.
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Don't think she was Miss America but first "black" Miss Alabama, although she appears whiter than Chizad's ass. I mean....
I didn't watch all of her video. Have no problem with her feeling like shooter was a martyr because I know there are a lot of weirdos out there who feel the same. They feel like these black men are being "gunned down" and don't have a "voice" or "platform". That's reality that there is a large segment that feels that way.
I'm betting that over 90% of the "gunned down" were either commuting criminal acts AND had weapons. Yet, it's a racial thing since the numbers are disproportionately black?
I will never get why color matters in this. The Mn shooting is the only recent shooting where I see prejudice and trigger happiness and that's based on limited info. But I'm calling that one early.
Edit: And another thing! This attitude is propagated by the media. And a lot of these people who feel for the "martyr" simply are the sheep that can't reason for themselves.
Is there a problem in black communities? Of course. And it's not going away overnight and the police shouldn't be blamed. Poor black men commit a lot of crime. Is that racist to say if it's true? I don't know the statistics but I'm just making an uneducated generalization with that. Is it true?
If it is, then why is that the police's fault?
More training, more sensitivity to the issues are great. But don't deny facts just to be politically correct.
All I got out of this is that wes is a weirdo.
Fact.
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The FBI has compiled a ton of statistics that reflect very accurately the problems in this great nation. People just don't like to talk about it.
i won't google it because I know you'll know. What are those stats? What stats are pertinent to this conversation AND do those typically come into play with an officer's split second decision?
Ex: did the Mn case come down to race? I say it played a part. He was a black passenger and car pulled over for a busted light. He had a legal carry and announced it. Doesn't seem right.
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All I got out of this is that wes is a weirdo.
Fact.
well, I was trying to be more diplomatic but.....yeah.
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God bless out lord and savior barack hessien obama for making it chic to hate whitey and the po-lice again!
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God bless out lord and savior barack hessien obama for making it chic to hate whitey and the po-lice again!
Fundamental transformation.
And white apologists are what let it happen.
Wes is a smart guy. I generally enjoy discussing things with him on here. But the "I'm white and privileged and must apologize for every single success we have as a people" stuff is bullshit and what allowed Obama to happen. The silver spoon white apologists may have grown up in royalty and feel bad or guilty about it but many of us didn't.
I'm not apologizing for shit. My parents were as poor as most blacks. I wore hand me downs and yard sale items. I didn't have the newest toys or a TV. We had one car. Etc etc etc. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't fall in line with the white privilege bs.
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I'm not apologizing for shit. My parents were as poor as most blacks. I wore hand me downs and yard sale items. I didn't have the newest toys or a TV. We had one car. Etc etc etc. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't fall in line with the white privilege bs.
Similar story here. Makes it hard to feel guilty when you had to watch all of the free lunch people in the snack line when you did not have enough for the snack line.
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I was born a poor black child.
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Son of a poor sharecropper
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I was born a poor black child.
He hates these cans!
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And son, don’t never, ever trust whitey.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5F2SIVh0uEY
This man has done a phenomenal job in Dallas in the past week.
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Similar story here. Makes it hard to feel guilty when you had to watch all of the free lunch people in the snack line when you did not have enough for the snack line.
When I first started teaching I had to buy my clothes in the summer at the Burlington store because they sold clothes that had defects and were therefore cheap. I'd save up to buy the $5 khakis and the $7 polo shirts. They'd have to last me all year because the rest of my money went to trying to keep the bills paid and food on the table. End of the month was always a dining adventure. Just how far CAN you stretch a jar of peanut butter?
I'd go to school with a packed sandwich and a jug of tea I brewed myself because that's about all I could do and watch kids wearing Hilfiger pants, $200 Nikes, Polo shirts and enough jewelry to pay my salary for a month stroll through the free food line. I couldn't get it. They could. They threw away more food than I could afford in a month.
So yeah. I was a good teacher. I wasn't a bad coach. I couldn't stay there, though. No way to afford it. So I feel for police officers making miniscule salaries, putting in the hours and getting blamed for everything. Not exactly the same, but as a teacher I made next to nothing, worked more hours than most and got blamed by the parents for their children's failures. I loved the job, hated the parents and couldn't abide the money. It's why I decided to do something else.
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It's why I decided to do something else.
Trust me when I tell you a lot of people are weighing options. This presidential election will be key to a lot of people if nothing changes. The educated people who can do the job well will move on to less stressful jobs. The bottom of the barrel officers who are only officers because they can't do anything else will be left to run the asylum.
It's heading down a path to get a lot worse.
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http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/10/riveting-post-by-black-police-officer-confronts-blm-with-raw-honesty-and-every-american-needs-to-see-it-363067
In no way shape or form can I say this without being called racist.
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http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/10/riveting-post-by-black-police-officer-confronts-blm-with-raw-honesty-and-every-american-needs-to-see-it-363067
In no way shape or form can I say this without being called racist.
You call someone a nagger?
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When I first started teaching I had to buy my clothes in the summer at the Burlington store because they sold clothes that had defects and were therefore cheap. I'd save up to buy the $5 khakis and the $7 polo shirts. They'd have to last me all year because the rest of my money went to trying to keep the bills paid and food on the table. End of the month was always a dining adventure. Just how far CAN you stretch a jar of peanut butter?
I'd go to school with a packed sandwich and a jug of tea I brewed myself because that's about all I could do and watch kids wearing Hilfiger pants, $200 Nikes, Polo shirts and enough jewelry to pay my salary for a month stroll through the free food line. I couldn't get it. They could. They threw away more food than I could afford in a month.
So yeah. I was a good teacher. I wasn't a bad coach. I couldn't stay there, though. No way to afford it. So I feel for police officers making miniscule salaries, putting in the hours and getting blamed for everything. Not exactly the same, but as a teacher I made next to nothing, worked more hours than most and got blamed by the parents for their children's failures. I loved the job, hated the parents and couldn't abide the money. It's why I decided to do something else.
But let's apologize for doing something with our lives and having any amount of success because you know.....white privilege!
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http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/10/riveting-post-by-black-police-officer-confronts-blm-with-raw-honesty-and-every-american-needs-to-see-it-363067
In no way shape or form can I say this without being called racist.
Related and a side note - the Dallas police chief. He rules. That is all.
So on one side you have these black folks that "get it" and decided to make a path in their lives:
Larry elder
Jessie lee Peterson
Ben Carson
Herman cain
Allen west
David brown (Dallas police chief)
Kevin jackson
David Webb
Doreen borelli
Rod wheeler (detective)
Ted williams (prosecutor)
Tim scott
Clarence Thomas
On the other hand you have these clowns and community organizer types that do not buy into making your life successful and taking action on your life path:
Jesse jackson
Al sharpton
Richard fowler
Corrine brown
Elijah Cummings
Sheila jackson Lee
Charlie Rangel
Jeremiah wright
Mark Lamont hill
If I am a young black person struggling or needing to see some light, especially young black male - how is this NOT a no brainier??
Community organizer that is always seemingly "struggling" and angry - vs - a colonel, a brain surgeon, a ceo, a ny times best selling author, a U.S. Senator, a police chief, A Supreme Court justice , etc. I mean hayseuss h cristo, this is not a hard decision. It baffles me.
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Related and a side note - the Dallas police chief. He rules. That is all.
So on one side you have these black folks that "get it" and decided to make a path in their lives:
Larry elder
Jessie lee Peterson
Ben Carson
Herman cain
Allen west
David brown (Dallas police chief)
Kevin jackson
David Webb
Doreen borelli
Rod wheeler (detective)
Ted williams (prosecutor)
Tim scott
Clarence Thomas
On the other hand you have these clowns and community organizer types that do not buy into making your life successful and taking action on your life path:
Jesse jackson
Al sharpton
Richard fowler
Corrine brown
Elijah Cummings
Sheila jackson Lee
Charlie Rangel
Jeremiah wright
Mark Lamont hill
If I am a young black person struggling or needing to see some light, especially young black male - how is this NOT a no brainier??
Community organizer that is always seemingly "struggling" and angry - vs - a colonel, a brain surgeon, a ceo, a ny times best selling author, a U.S. Senator, a police chief, A Supreme Court justice , etc. I mean hayseuss h cristo, this is not a hard decision. It baffles me.
You missed one off the top of my head.
https://youtu.be/q3j34rJytl8
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Related and a side note - the Dallas police chief. He rules. That is all.
So on one side you have these black folks that "get it" and decided to make a path in their lives:
Larry elder
Jessie lee Peterson
Ben Carson
Herman cain
Allen west
David brown (Dallas police chief)
Kevin jackson
David Webb
Doreen borelli
Rod wheeler (detective)
Ted williams (prosecutor)
Tim scott
Clarence Thomas
On the other hand you have these clowns and community organizer types that do not buy into making your life successful and taking action on your life path:
Jesse jackson
Al sharpton
Richard fowler
Corrine brown
Elijah Cummings
Sheila jackson Lee
Charlie Rangel
Jeremiah wright
Mark Lamont hill
If I am a young black person struggling or needing to see some light, especially young black male - how is this NOT a no brainier??
Community organizer that is always seemingly "struggling" and angry - vs - a colonel, a brain surgeon, a ceo, a ny times best selling author, a U.S. Senator, a police chief, A Supreme Court justice , etc. I mean hayseuss h cristo, this is not a hard decision. It baffles me.
You can only find 13 black people out of 39,000,000 that you like?
At least it's a start.
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Related and a side note - the Dallas police chief. He rules. That is all.
So on one side you have these black folks that "get it" and decided to make a path in their lives:
Larry elder
Jessie lee Peterson
Ben Carson
Herman cain
Allen west
David brown (Dallas police chief)
Kevin jackson
David Webb
Doreen borelli
Rod wheeler (detective)
Ted williams (prosecutor)
Tim scott
Clarence Thomas
On the other hand you have these clowns and community organizer types that do not buy into making your life successful and taking action on your life path:
Jesse jackson
Al sharpton
Richard fowler
Corrine brown
Elijah Cummings
Sheila jackson Lee
Charlie Rangel
Jeremiah wright
Mark Lamont hill
If I am a young black person struggling or needing to see some light, especially young black male - how is this NOT a no brainier??
Community organizer that is always seemingly "struggling" and angry - vs - a colonel, a brain surgeon, a ceo, a ny times best selling author, a U.S. Senator, a police chief, A Supreme Court justice , etc. I mean hayseuss h cristo, this is not a hard decision. It baffles me.
It's not cool to want to be successful unless it's a professional athlete or rapper. Any other success is selling out.
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It's not cool to want to be successful unless it's a professional athlete or rapper. Any other success is selling out.
Pro athletics was just out of my grasp but luckily I can lay down some smoothe rhymes.
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Pro athletics was just out of my grasp but luckily I can lay down some smoothe rhymes.
I thought you came correct with dope rhymes.
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Why you wanna talk about all those Uncle Toms, GH?
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7 officers shot and 3 killed in Baton Rouge this morning. Early reports so far, appears as though shooter is either in custody or also dead.
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Now being reported that 3 total suspects. 1 dead and 2 at large.
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Now being reported that 3 total suspects. 1 dead and 2 at large.
You think of of this nonsense is going to come to your area? Stay safe, man.
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You think of of this nonsense is going to come to your area? Stay safe, man.
Honestly, I suppose it's possible.
This is really the worst kind of thing that can happen. It's one thing to be killed serving a warrant, or answering a call, or on a traffic stop. An ambush is the worst kind of incident. Officers who would normally be friendly and approachable by common citizen at gas station now has to wonder if the man coming to shake his hand isn't coming to shoot or have a violent confrontation.
Sad state of affairs.
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Unreal!!!
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Soros, Killary and Obama are to blame for all of this shit. They should be held accountable and imprisoned or executed for giving aid to terrorists.
Of course that dope fiend Dubya didn't help much dancing at the fallen officers' funeral services. Where the hell is the leadership in this country?
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Meanwhile in Auburn....
http://m.oanow.com/news/two-lee-county-sheriff-s-deputies-refused-service-at-taco/article_8ac8b0fc-4c43-11e6-a27b-03be4d2a16cd.html?mode=jqm
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Meanwhile in Auburn....
http://m.oanow.com/news/two-lee-county-sheriff-s-deputies-refused-service-at-taco/article_8ac8b0fc-4c43-11e6-a27b-03be4d2a16cd.html?mode=jqm
Fuck sake. I would love to have been there. Those officers would have had no choice but to arrest me because no way I'm not coming over that counter and shoving a beefy burrito up that person's ass.
Oh you love the police now, don't you? They're pulling my hands from around your throat you punk ass bitch.
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Soros, Killary and Obama are to blame for all of this shit. They should be held accountable and imprisoned or executed for giving aid to terrorists.
Of course that dope fiend Dubya didn't help much dancing at the fallen officers' funeral services. Where the hell is the leadership in this country?
No! You are not paying attention. Imam Obama and mata Hitlary have already told you. It's GUNS dammit.
We need gun control. Like the French.
Just listened to Obama's comments. FUCK that guy.
Empty platitudes, vacant rhetoric. Making sure he gets ahead of Trump and warning about heated rhetoric.
This is HIS fault. For siding with Trayvon. With Freddie Brown. With his preacher. With Philistine Amandrio. Whatever their damned names were. He's the one who validated black matters.
Fuck this guy. Trump racist? Maybe. But Obama damn sure is.
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Fuck sake. I would love to have been there. Those officers would have had no choice but to arrest me because no way I'm not coming over that counter and shoving a beefy burrito up that person's ass.
Oh you love the police now, don't you? They're pulling my hands from around your throat you punk ass bitch.
Those guys were asking for trouble anyway. There is no way in hell I'm eating any "fast" food that I can't see be made in front of me.
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Those guys were asking for trouble anyway. There is no way in hell I'm eating any "fast" food that I can't see be made in front of me.
Yeah, but you're a dick.
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Also, that shit went down in Phenix City where the grass is not green and the girls and not pretty.
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Fuck sake. I would love to have been there. Those officers would have had no choice but to arrest me because no way I'm not coming over that counter and shoving a beefy burrito up that person's ass.
Oh you love the police now, don't you? They're pulling my hands from around your throat you punk ass bitch.
Oh shut up. They would've kicked your ass.
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Oh shut up. They would've kicked your ass.
I know judo and I watched every episode of Walker, Texas Ranger.
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Snags is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right fists.
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First he names his biceps Jack and Sledge and now his fists? Geez...
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Snags is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right fists.
Fear of spiders is called arachnophobia, fear of tight spaces is called claustrophobia, and fear of Snags is just plain logic.
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Snags can touch MC Hammer.
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I can text from a rotary dial phone.
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Baltimore about to burn again...
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-rice-verdict-20160718-story.html (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-rice-verdict-20160718-story.html)
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Baltimore about to burn again...
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-rice-verdict-20160718-story.html (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-rice-verdict-20160718-story.html)
And you rest assured that someone out there is getting ready to get even with the cops again.
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Rice selected a bench trial rather than a jury trial, putting his legal fate in Williams' hands.
Smart man.
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Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio....
foxynews
COLUMBUS, Ohio – Police in Ohio's capital city say an officer was served a sandwich containing glass shards at a restaurant, and an assault squad is investigating whether it was intentional.
The Columbus officer cut his mouth after biting into the sandwich served to him at a restaurant on Monday afternoon. He was taken to a hospital and held there overnight.
Police say the officer heard a crunching sound as he ate the sandwich.
Columbus Public Health officials say they plan to visit the restaurant Tuesday to help determine what happened.
No charges have been filed in the case. The restaurant's name is being withheld as police continue to investigate.
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Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio....
foxynews
COLUMBUS, Ohio – Police in Ohio's capital city say an officer was served a sandwich containing glass shards at a restaurant, and an assault squad is investigating whether it was intentional.
The Columbus officer cut his mouth after biting into the sandwich served to him at a restaurant on Monday afternoon. He was taken to a hospital and held there overnight.
Police say the officer heard a crunching sound as he ate the sandwich.
Columbus Public Health officials say they plan to visit the restaurant Tuesday to help determine what happened.
No charges have been filed in the case. The restaurant's name is being withheld as police continue to investigate.
Someone said this earlier, but I would not eat at a place I didn't already trust or where I could not see them prepare my food.
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Someone said this earlier, but I would not eat at a place I didn't already trust or where I could not see them prepare my food.
duh. the world hates you.
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duh. the world hates you.
tru dat.
Heard some chatter last season about some "special Dallas sauce" for an xgate, had he actually been able to afford to make it to Auburn.
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Meanwhile, in Kansas City.....
foxynews
A Kansas City, Kan. police officer was in critical condition after being shot Tuesday afternoon as the city's police chief called for prayers on social media.
Terry Zeigler tweeted news of the shooting just after 2 p.m. local time.
We have an officer shot at 22nd & Haskell. Start prayers, unknown condition.
— Terry Zeigler (@KCKPDChief) July 19, 2016
The police department later confirmed the officer was in critical condition. They added that one suspect was in custody and authorities were searching for a second.
The Kansas City Star reported that dozens of officers swarmed the area where the shooting took place, some of them holding rifles. Several police took cover behind cars.
At one point, the Star reported that a woman came out of a nearby house and had a brief conversation with an officer in riot gear. She then walked back toward her house and appeared to yell toward someone inside.
Tuesday marked the second time this year that a Kansas City, Kan., police officer had been shot in the line of duty. Detective Brad Lancaster, 39, was shot and killed curing a violent crime spree on May 9.
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duh. the world hates you.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/th9_zpsttkrwzld.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/th9_zpsttkrwzld.jpg.html)
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Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio....
foxynews
COLUMBUS, Ohio – Police in Ohio's capital city say an officer was served a sandwich containing glass shards at a restaurant, and an assault squad is investigating whether it was intentional.
The Columbus officer cut his mouth after biting into the sandwich served to him at a restaurant on Monday afternoon. He was taken to a hospital and held there overnight.
Police say the officer heard a crunching sound as he ate the sandwich.
Columbus Public Health officials say they plan to visit the restaurant Tuesday to help determine what happened.
No charges have been filed in the case. The restaurant's name is being withheld as police continue to investigate.
Mushroom stamps, spit, excessive hot sauce, refusing to serve. All of these things would piss me off. You put something in my food that causes me to possibly damage my teeth? Fuck an investigator or even being a police officer. I'm going to whip your ass on the back line in front of God and everyone.
I know how to do a lot of shit that can pay bills.
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#blueteethmatter
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#blueteethmatter
#allteethmatter
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#blueteethmatter
Thank god you didn't say gums.
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Thank god you didn't say gums.
Oh shit!
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Meanwhile, in Muncie...
This piece in foxynews is indicative of where we are.
A billboard in Indiana has caused some controversy in the wake of the high-profile police killings and officer-involved shooting deaths of African-American men.
The electronic billboard in Muncie caught the eyes of plenty of people around the town Saturday and one person described it as “vulgar†and “discriminatory.†It read “Hate cops? The next time you need help call a crackhead.â€
Megan Thomas told The Star Press on Sunday that she noticed the sign while walking with her niece. She said she was offended by the message, which she alleged was "vulgar, discriminatory (Please to be explaining this one, Megan)to many different classes of people in our city.†She said it also seemed to have been up ahead of a police brutality protest.
(Just curious. Do you not think a police brutality protest would be deemed "vulgar" and "discriminatory" to policemen?)
"I was very ashamed that something so dividing was present in Muncie," she added.
Thomas shared the photo on Facebook and drew a ton of positive and negative responses. She said by the early evening Saturday the message was out of the rotation.
The Star Press reported that by Monday two other messages were up on the billboard: "Love, Respect, Support Law Enforcement†and “Love, Support, Support Law Enforcement."
The billboard is located in the parking lot of a liquor store in Muncie. Chris Johnson, the owner of the store, told the paper that he called the billboard company to tell them that he was hearing complaints about the messaging and he was told it would be taken down immediately and reworded.
Johnson said he was berated by complaints and told the paper that he didn’t hear from anyone about the message on the sign before the controversy unfolded.
Muncie police Sgt. Chris Kirby said Saturday in a Facebook message that Muncie Liquors "had absolutely nothing to do" with the billboard message nor did any police in the town.
The people behind the billboard have yet to come forward.
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I'm not sure what the issue is with that sign.
Seriously, if you hate cops then by all means don't bother calling them when you need help. IF you hate them so much.
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Oh noes! Another sign! Everybody to their safe space.
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Oh noes! Another sign! Everybody to their safe space.
Well, they are blocking out the scenery and breaking my mind.
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Well, they are blocking out the scenery and breaking my mind.
Do this. Don't do that.
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I'm not sure what the issue is with that sign.
Seriously, if you hate cops then by all means don't bother calling them when you need help. IF you hate them so much.
Come on now, truth to a liberal is racism when it doesn't fit their agenda.
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I cannot believe that you guys think that it's o.k. to make fun of crackheads, considering how many of you seem to be crackheads. Self-deprecating, I guess.