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Title: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2009/03/ncaa_continues_to_investigate.html (http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2009/03/ncaa_continues_to_investigate.html)

TUSCALOOSA -- The University of Alabama could face additional penalties from the NCAA in regards to the textbook investigation that sidelined five UA football players for four games during the 2007 season.

Representatives from the university met Feb. 20 with the NCAA Committee on Infractions to answer a notice of allegiations regarding potential "major" violations. The NCAA has yet to respond with any additional punishment that could be weighed against UA in the matter.

The NCAA sent UA a notice of inquiry in Nov. 2007. A notice of possible "major" violations was issued in May 2008, per documents associated with the case.

The school's self-initiated investigation involved sports programs in addition to football, sources have said. UA sports programs, including football, face a potential loss of scholarships if the NCAA decides the school's initial actions and were not sufficient.

A statement from UA this morning stated that, "The University's appearance before the committee is part of the NCAA's normal investigative and review process."

"Compliance with NCAA and SEC rules is of the utmost importance to The University of Alabama and our Athletics Department, and I am pleased with the way our compliance officers handled this situation," UA president Robert Witt said in a statement today. "UA works diligently to ensure that integrity and a commitment to excellence are the hallmarks of our athletics program, and we appreciate the support we received from Commissioner (Mike) Slive and the SEC, and officials at the NCAA."

 
The investigation began, per UA documents, when a UA Supply Store employee noticed questionable textbook charges in excess of $1,600 for scholarship student-athletes and reported the matter. UA's compliance staff later confirmed that student-athletes had "impermissible textbook charges in excess of $1,300 and $1,500 for the fall 2007 semester."

Football players Antoine Caldwell, Glen Coffee, Marlon Davis, Marquis Johnson and Chris Rogers were suspended four games during the 2007 season.

The players were later reinstated by the NCAA for the regular season finale against Auburn and the Independence Bowl against Colorado.

"Our compliance department and the administration, when that happened and we discovered that, I've never seen a response to a problem that aggressive in resolving it," UA athletics director Mal Moore said this past summer. "We kept the NCAA abreast of everything that has been done."

"The University discovered the violations, investigated them promptly and in detail, and immediately took corrective action to fix its textbook distribution system," UA's statement said.

Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 05, 2009, 01:22:39 PM
Just in case, I'm getting back in the good graces of the football karma gods.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 01:24:02 PM
Just in case, I'm getting back in the good graces of the football karma gods.

I did a funny little dance when I saw this pop up...
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 05, 2009, 01:26:25 PM
I did a funny little dance when I saw this pop up...
I just still don't believe that anything major is coming around the bend.  I hope that I am just too damn cynical though.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 05, 2009, 01:31:05 PM
"Major" racism and possible "Major" NCAA infractions going on at the Crapstoned? 

And the lead story on Finebaum this afternoon will be....."How does Nick Saban use telepathic mind waves to force his shit to be solid and not stink".
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 05, 2009, 03:41:54 PM
Cecil Hurt was on F'baum and while this may not result in much, it sure sounded ominous.  F'baum is going off on the University of Alabama's media relations for covering this up.   In my opinion, it's going to be interesting to see what comes out of this, but it sounds like Bammer covered this up for as long as they could and stonewalled the media to ensure this info wasn't out during the last recruiting cycle.  Hmmm.....

We'll see what happens I guess...
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 05, 2009, 03:54:51 PM
Cecil's article?

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20090305/NEWS/903051990/1007?Title=UA-meets-with-NCAA-infractions-committee-over-textbook-matter (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20090305/NEWS/903051990/1007?Title=UA-meets-with-NCAA-infractions-committee-over-textbook-matter)

The PLOI:
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/assets/pdf/TL1527835.PDF (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/assets/pdf/TL1527835.PDF)

Repeat offender bylaw in effect???

Pg 4: "Inasmuch as your institution was previously found in violation of NCAA rules in an infractions report decided Feb 1, 2002, your institution is subject to the penalties set forth in Bylaw 19.5.2.3"


What's RWS's take I wonder being that we're all just a bunch of retarded Aubs pulling this out of our collective asses...
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 05, 2009, 03:58:40 PM
People, people, people...pleeease.  NostraDavid told us about this years ago.  Why so surprised?
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 04:51:22 PM
Cecil Hurt was on F'baum and while this may not result in much, it sure sounded ominous.  F'baum is going off on the University of Alabama's media relations for covering this up.   In my opinion, it's going to be interesting to see what comes out of this, but it sounds like Bammer covered this up for as long as they could and stonewalled the media to ensure this info wasn't out during the last recruiting cycle.  Hmmm.....

We'll see what happens I guess...

Not flaming, just a question.  Why do you listen to that tool?
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 05, 2009, 04:57:00 PM
Not flaming, just a question.  Why do you listen to that tool?

I don't usually, but he is interviewing the people that broke the story.  For that, it's worth it today.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:01:00 PM
I don't usually, but he is interviewing the people that broke the story.  For that, it's worth it today.

Same here.  Never listen, but turned it on today to see who he'd talk to. 

He is, of course, crediting Cecil Hurt as "breaking" the story but nothing could be further from the truth.  Hurt is one of them and will bury things that could potentially be harmful.  This was going to get out some other way and Hurt and UA scrambled to cover. 
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 05, 2009, 05:04:40 PM
Same here.  Never listen, but turned it on today to see who he'd talk to. 

He is, of course, crediting Cecil Hurt as "breaking" the story but nothing could be further from the truth.  Hurt is one of them and will bury things that could potentially be harmful.  This was going to get out some other way and Hurt and UA scrambled to cover. 

Agreed.  I'm surprised that nobody (okay not surprised actually) has mentioned that they are being investigated as a repeat offender and that one of the NCAA's requests is Bama's contractual television and other broadcast obligations.  In my opinion, it's probably nothing, but very curious to say the least.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
Agreed.  I'm surprised that nobody (okay not surprised actually) has mentioned that they are being investigated as a repeat offender and that one of the NCAA's requests is Bama's contractual television and other broadcast obligations.  In my opinion, it's probably nothing, but very curious to say the least.

I was a little surprised that there was very little comment in this thread after I posted it.

I guess people are just leery of getting their hopes up. 
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: The Prowler on March 05, 2009, 05:15:49 PM
So....rws, you can stop waiting on the PLOI.  Wait, let me rephrase that, you could've stopped waiting on it back in May of '08.  I'd be surprised if anything more than just a loss of a couple of scholarships comes of this.  But, if the NCAA sees it as Repeat Offender, Failure to Moniter, and if they find out that it has happened more than just this one time....then it might be more.  I do know this, we'll know more about it within the next few weeks.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 05, 2009, 05:20:46 PM
I was a little surprised that there was very little comment in this thread after I posted it.

I guess people are just leery of getting their hopes up. 

Not a lot of info out there yet.  Bammerham radio is amazingly passive of all this.  I'm not sure anyone really knows the scope.  However, I read the PLOI, see the repeat offender status on proven "major" violations and wonder about the sum of the two...

Repeat Offender:

19.5.2.3 Repeat Violators.
19.5.2.3.1 Time Period. An institution shall be considered a “repeat” violator if the Committee on
Infractions finds that a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty.
For this provision to apply, at least one major violation must have occurred within five years after the starting
date of the penalties in the previous case. It shall not be necessary that the Committee on Infractions’ hear-
ing be conducted or its report issued within the five-year period. (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97)
19.5.2.3.2 Repeat—Violator Penalties. In addition to the penalties identified for a major violation,
the minimum penalty for a repeat violator, subject to exceptions authorized by the Committee on Infrac-
tions on the basis of specifically stated reasons, may include any or all of the following: (Revised:1/11/94)
(a) The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation
for one or two sports seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from
involvement directly or indirectly in any coaching activities at the institution during that period;
(b) The elimination of all initial grants-in-aid and all recruiting activities in the sport involved in the
latest major violation in question for a two-year period;
(c) The requirement that all institutional staff members serving on the Board of Directors, Manage-
ment Council, Executive Committee or other committees of the Association resign those positions,
it being understood that all institutional representatives shall be ineligible to serve on any NCAA
committee for a period of four years; and
(d) The requirement that the institution relinquish its voting privilege in the Association for a four-year
period.


You can't tell me that someone somewhere right now wearing Crimson is having an asshole tightening issue after reading this.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:27:28 PM
Not a lot of info out there yet.  Bammerham radio is amazingly passive of all this.  I'm not sure anyone really knows the scope.  However, I read the PLOI, see the repeat offender status on proven "major" violations and wonder about the sum of the two...

Repeat Offender:

19.5.2.3 Repeat Violators.
19.5.2.3.1 Time Period. An institution shall be considered a “repeat” violator if the Committee on
Infractions finds that a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty.
For this provision to apply, at least one major violation must have occurred within five years after the starting
date of the penalties in the previous case. It shall not be necessary that the Committee on Infractions’ hear-
ing be conducted or its report issued within the five-year period. (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97)
19.5.2.3.2 Repeat—Violator Penalties. In addition to the penalties identified for a major violation,
the minimum penalty for a repeat violator, subject to exceptions authorized by the Committee on Infrac-
tions on the basis of specifically stated reasons, may include any or all of the following: (Revised:1/11/94)
(a) The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation
for one or two sports seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from
involvement directly or indirectly in any coaching activities at the institution during that period;
(b) The elimination of all initial grants-in-aid and all recruiting activities in the sport involved in the
latest major violation in question for a two-year period;
(c) The requirement that all institutional staff members serving on the Board of Directors, Manage-
ment Council, Executive Committee or other committees of the Association resign those positions,
it being understood that all institutional representatives shall be ineligible to serve on any NCAA
committee for a period of four years; and
(d) The requirement that the institution relinquish its voting privilege in the Association for a four-year
period.


You can't tell me that someone somewhere right now wearing Crimson is having an asshole tightening issue after reading this.

I can't tell you anyone wearing Crimson can read it. 

And... after listening to Finebaum for a while for one of the few times in a year or more...  I STILL FUCKING HATE SHANE. 

FUCK THAT DOUCHEBAG.  I HATE THE COMPLETE AND ABSOLUTE FUCKING HELL OUT OF THAT FUCKING BASTARD.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 05, 2009, 05:31:14 PM
I can't tell you anyone wearing Crimson can read it. 

And... after listening to Finebaum for a while for one of the few times in a year or more...  I STILL FUCKING HATE SHANE. 

FUCK THAT DOUCHEBAG.  I HATE THE COMPLETE AND ABSOLUTE FUCKING HELL OUT OF THAT FUCKING BASTARD.

Shane is blind homer piece of shit.  Everyone knows that... What annoys me, is from a "journalistic" standpoint (and I use that term REALLY loosely), is the dopey chuckling from Paul about "Aubs" regardless of where the conversation should be steered.

This is about where it's time to turn it off. 
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:43:06 PM
Shane is blind homer piece of shit.  Everyone knows that... What annoys me, is from a "journalistic" standpoint (and I use that term REALLY loosely), is the dopey chuckling from Paul about "Aubs" regardless of where the conversation should be steered.

This is about where it's time to turn it off. 

**click**

Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Thrilla on March 05, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
I was a little surprised that there was very little comment in this thread after I posted it.

I guess people are just leery of getting their hopes up.  

Bingo.  Not until the gavel comes crashing down will I rejoice.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AUChizad on March 05, 2009, 05:54:15 PM
Bingo.  Not until the gavel comes crashing down will I rejoice.
Seconded. Things that awesome don't happen to me.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: The Prowler on March 05, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
Where's the resident bammers to spin this into..."Nothing to see here, move along"?
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: The Prowler on March 05, 2009, 06:26:14 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: In the PLOI the NCAA called them the University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa.....uat. Ahhahaha
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AUChizad on March 05, 2009, 06:36:41 PM
http://fromthebleachersblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/preliminary-letter-of-inquiry-at.html (http://fromthebleachersblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/preliminary-letter-of-inquiry-at.html)
Quote
Thursday, March 05, 2009
Preliminary Letter Of Inquiry at Alabama
The mid-2007 "Textbookgate" story at Alabama has been considered old news since half a dozen UAT players were suspended for the second half of that season and eventually reinstated. The story broke open again around 11AM today, when Cecil Hurt of the Tuscaloosa News reported online,

    Representatives of the University of Alabama met with the NCAA Committee on Infractions last month to address allegations concerning the textbook violations which sidelined five football players in the 2007 season, The News has learned.

    The meeting took place in San Diego on February 20, 2009. The two specific NCAA allegations, which were sent in a letter to UA President Dr. Robert Witt, last May, state that an unspecified number of UA student-athletes obtained impermissible textbooks and supplies beginning in “at least the 2005-06 academic year and continuing through the fall of 2007.” Furthermore, the letter alleges that “the scope and nature of the allegations” demonstrate a "failure to monitor the student-athlete textbook distribution system."


Along with Hurt's story, a sidebar has been posted containing pertinent documents, most notably including this Preliminary Letter Of Inquiry (labeled as a "Notice of allegations"; per ESPN, the two names are interchangable in NCAA parlance). The existence of this letter, dated May 8, 2008, has been successfully kept under wraps by UAT until today.

Among other things, the mildly-redacted PLOI charges uat with Failure To Monitor (page 6), which is basically the second most serious charge in the NCAA rulebook, behind the dreaded Failure Of Institutional Control.

Contrary to everything you've read in the media to date, the NCAA considers this is a major violations case (page 4). According to the letter, UAT has requested and been denied summary disposition (top of page 3).

In short, this story is much more serious than the UAT administration, athletic department, and the media in Alabama have ever let on.

UPDATE: Here's something I missed when first reading over the NCAA letter. From page 6, detailing the first of two allegations, in this case a potential violation of Bylaw 16.11.2.1:

    It is alleged that beginning at least in the 2005-06 academic year and continuing through the fall of 2007, the institution's textbook distribution system allowed [section redacted] different student athletes to obtain impermissible textbooks and supplies, with a total value of [redacted].


This is possibly the most significant section of the entire PLOI, since it places the violations within the five-year Repeat Offender window. Alabama's last bout of NCAA probation began on February 1, 2002, and lasted through February 1 of 2007. Any violations during calendar 2006 would fall within the repeat offender window. This would make Alabama a three-time repeat offender, as the Albert Means probation was itself a repeat-offender case.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: The Prowler on March 05, 2009, 06:43:03 PM
At Coach $ mansion

(the door bell rings)

Coach $ - "Hey Mal, go see who's at the door.....NOW!!!!"

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/theprowler64/GrimReaper.jpg)

LOL
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Birmingham on March 05, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
curious as to why you guys think that Alabama will be punished for this with a severity greater than that of USC/R. Bush.  In case you aren't following, I'm saying: Why do you think a penalty for accepting $200.00 worth of books by 6 athletes will be carried out by people who won't carry out a penalty to a person accepting $250,000.00 in cash and real estate?

Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 05, 2009, 07:12:50 PM
curious as to why you guys think that Alabama will be punished for this with a severity greater than that of USC/R. Bush.  In case you aren't following, I'm saying: Why do you think a penalty for accepting $200.00 worth of books by 6 athletes will be carried out by people who won't carry out a penalty to a person accepting $250,000.00 in cash and real estate?



Not sure why, but I do know that the NCAA has requested the win-loss record of the past four years.  They've also requested all information on known TV contracts for the next couple of years as well. 

Looks like you guys may be fucked.   :bar:
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: The Prowler on March 05, 2009, 08:55:31 PM
Quote
"This would make Alabama a three-time repeat offender, as the Albert Means probation was itself a repeat-offender case."

This is why some bammers are getting a little nervous.  And, why it's maybe a little more serious than Reggie Bush's case.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 09:58:07 PM
Wasn't the Albert Means case considered as "Repeat Offender"?  If so, then that'd make this a "Double-Repeat Offender"...

Which as you obviously know, results in double secret probation

(http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2005/12/14/1134594035_4687.jpg)
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: The Prowler on March 05, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
Which as you obviously know, results in double secret probation

(http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2005/12/14/1134594035_4687.jpg)
:clap: :clap:
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 05, 2009, 10:48:38 PM
I caught about 15 minutes of Finescrotum this afternoon and the one time he referenced this whole thing, he did so by saying:

Look, the only story here is that it's just now coming out for the public to see.  The minute Alabama discovered any problems over a year ago, they self reported it and have been working hand in hand with the SEC and NCAA.

In other words...nothing to see here, move along. Typical!! Now, having said that, I'm still leaning more towards B'Hams take.  We ain't talkin' Reggie Bush big here.  I mean, when I see shit like, "Failure to monitor textbook distribution...blah, blah, blah" it's hard to get real excited about your rival getting hammered by the NCAA.  Hey, if it happens...I'll laugh.  But good Lord, don't they have anything better to do?  You know, like actually pull the trigger on the loaded gun USC should be staring down?
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: The Prowler on March 05, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
I've heard that there was a post made on the BOL website with the title "Brandon Gibson's Plane Ride", but it was deleted not long after being posted.  Also, there was one that had "NCAA Violations....Contact Richard Shelby", I'm not sure what that means....but, I'm sure that'll be deleted too, if it hasn't already been.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 05, 2009, 11:22:22 PM
I caught about 15 minutes of Finescrotum this afternoon and the one time he referenced this whole thing, he did so by saying:

Look, the only story here is that it's just now coming out for the public to see.  The minute Alabama discovered any problems over a year ago, they self reported it and have been working hand in hand with the SEC and NCAA.

In other words...nothing to see here, move along. Typical!! Now, having said that, I'm still leaning more towards B'Hams take.  We ain't talkin' Reggie Bush big here.  I mean, when I see shit like, "Failure to monitor textbook distribution...blah, blah, blah" it's hard to get real excited about your rival getting hammered by the NCAA.  Hey, if it happens...I'll laugh.  But good Lord, don't they have anything better to do?  You know, like actually pull the trigger on the loaded gun USC should be staring down?

I really don't think there is much to see with the textbook scandal.  However, there are a lot of upset and nervous Bammers out there right now.  Something was serious enough to hide from Cecil Hurt who is the beloved and most respected overrated Bammer journalist in the state.  From what I heard on F-Bomb, Cecil isn't too happy about the whole situation.  Something's up.  I don't know if anything will come of it, but I think there's more to it that what meets the eye. 
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: boartitz on March 06, 2009, 06:22:39 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/134961-what-should-we-make-of-the-ncaa-investigating-alabama-over-text-books (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/134961-what-should-we-make-of-the-ncaa-investigating-alabama-over-text-books)

Haha. Everybody's picking on Bama. This has got to be a homer.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Kaos on March 06, 2009, 08:37:54 AM
That fuck is the biggest bama douchebag on the planet.  He's a pompous know-nothing fuckstick asshole. 

Go read some of his other braying shit if you don't believe me. 

Without even looking, I can bet you the next fat-ass Bama whiner will be Larry Burton, the manager of a temporary employment service from Pensacola.  That lost-in-the-70s clown has written a dozen or more snide ass Auburn bashing "articles" for that site. 
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 06, 2009, 08:43:01 AM
From the site...


Quote
Franklin's Bio

I am an old school Alabama fan. I live, eat, and sleep college football. I played the game, so I know a little about the sacrifices these kids have to make. I have been involved with Alabama football since Bear Bryant's glory days. I have witnessed Alabama winning 7 National Championships..

When I die I plan to have my ashes spread over Bryant-Denny stadium. I only ask that I live long enough to see Alabama win another national championship. It's beginning to look like my days are numbered!
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: AUChizad on March 06, 2009, 09:11:25 AM
Quote
I would further say that if this was happening at Alabama, it was most likely happening at other schools because these sort of schemes spread like wildfire amongst unethical athletes.
Paraphrase: A completely hypothetical and unsupported "Everyone else is doing it!"

Typical.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: boartitz on March 06, 2009, 11:06:29 AM
From the site...


Yall been fucking with Wiki? :poke: Does this equal out the ones they claim that others don't agree with?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_Crimson_Tide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_Crimson_Tide)

 the NCAA recognizes Alabama as National Champions for the 1945, 1966, 1967, and 1977 college football seasons. However, those championships are not claimed by Alabama.[5][6]
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: RWS on March 06, 2009, 01:27:56 PM
Here's my take on it:

I really don't think we're going to see anything all that severe out of this. Alabama gained no competitive advantage by this happening. What we had were some numbskulls using funds allocated for student athletes to get their books, but said numbskulls were also getting their girlfriends and friends books using this money as well. They weren't selling the books to other students, so I suppose that may help our case a little. I can see a few scholarships being lost for it maybe, but I would imagine that would be as severe as it gets. If its more than that, well then fuck me, I guess I'm wrong. But I really don't see this as our downfall.

Should it have happened? No. But I think what went on is one of those things when you hear about it, you're just like "What?". I would be interested to see just how many schools this sort of thing is happening at. You can't tell me that some kids at Alabama and Ball State are the only kids in the country to figure this out. It still doesn't make it right, and it shouldn't be used as justification for it happening. I just think its one of those things you don't really think about and would be easy to slip through the cracks. For Alabama's sake, I sure as hell hope they are serious about the textbook monitoring now.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: boartitz on March 06, 2009, 02:32:30 PM
I find it hard to believe that a kid would run up a $1600 book bill out of the goodness of his heart. He was swapping for something.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: RWS on March 06, 2009, 02:56:05 PM
I find it hard to believe that a kid would run up a $1600 book bill out of the goodness of his heart. He was swapping for something.
When he doesn't have to pay that bill, it probably makes him more willing. Especially if the recipiant is a girlfriend and doesn't mind slinging a little leg his way. Hell, I bet Prowler would give his left nut (when it drops) to lose his virginity. Pussy makes people do strange things sometimes. 
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: boartitz on March 06, 2009, 03:21:03 PM
When he doesn't have to pay that bill, it probably makes him more willing. Especially if the recipiant is a girlfriend and doesn't mind slinging a little leg his way. Hell, I bet Prowler would give his left nut (when it drops) to lose his virginity. Pussy makes people do strange things sometimes. 
He had an interior motive.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on March 06, 2009, 03:39:41 PM
Hell, I bet Prowler would give his left nut (when it drops) to lose his virginity.

That may be the funniest thing you have said...
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Jumbo on March 06, 2009, 04:56:58 PM
That may be the funniest thing you have said...
RWC loves nuts.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: RWS on March 06, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
RWC loves nuts.
Ding! Fries are done!
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on March 06, 2009, 05:59:22 PM
......And then you had to fuck it up. I may have just retired from the thread after the last one...
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Greaseyweasel on March 06, 2009, 06:28:24 PM
bama's liscensing argeement with the NCAA is worth too much money. Soooo they will skate away from this.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: RWS on March 07, 2009, 08:36:33 PM
Here is a link with all of the info UA has sent to the NCAA.

http://uanews.ua.edu/anews2009/mar09/ncaa030509.htm (http://uanews.ua.edu/anews2009/mar09/ncaa030509.htm)

Some pretty interesting shit if you actually read thru it.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: RWS on March 07, 2009, 08:42:42 PM
:rofl: :rofl: In the PLOI the NCAA called them the University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa.....uat. Ahhahaha
The University calls themselves that as well, for the simple fact that there are multiple University of Alabama locations, such as University of Alabama, Birmingham. The same way I imagine Auburn University would formally be Auburn University, Auburn and the Montgomery location would be Auburn University, Montgomery.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Saniflush on March 07, 2009, 08:48:03 PM
Here is a link with all of the info UA has sent to the NCAA.

http://uanews.ua.edu/anews2009/mar09/ncaa030509.htm (http://uanews.ua.edu/anews2009/mar09/ncaa030509.htm)

Some pretty interesting shit if you actually read thru it.


Can you post the cliff notes? 
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Pell City Tiger on March 07, 2009, 10:33:21 PM
The University calls themselves that as well
Bullshit
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 07, 2009, 10:58:36 PM
Bullshit

What he said.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: RWS on March 07, 2009, 11:13:32 PM

Can you post the cliff notes? 
UA Redacted Response to NCAA Notice of Allegations: Total 67 pages

Exhibit 1-2 to 1-7: Total 51 pages
Exhibit 1-9 to 1-11: Total 25 pages

Exhibit 4-1: Total 2 pages

Exhibit 4-2: Total 2 pages

Exhibit 7-1: Total 6 pages

Exhibit 10-1 to 10-2: Total 29 pages
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Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: RWS on March 07, 2009, 11:15:28 PM
Bullshit
I'm assuming you haven't looked at the first document from the link I provided.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Saniflush on March 07, 2009, 11:32:50 PM
Good God man. That's the Cliff notes?


Guilty.
Title: Re: NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...
Post by: Pell City Tiger on March 07, 2009, 11:47:02 PM
I'm assuming you haven't looked at the first document from the link I provided.
It has a ua.edu address. Of course I'm not going to look at it. Why should I get my news from Pravda? I don't see "UAT" in any of that shit you posted. I'm assuming it was cut and pasted from the source. Doen't matter anyway. As Sani said, GUILTY! Shut 'em down ala SMU.