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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on December 08, 2020, 04:54:22 PM
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Gus is actually let go after this season? First, let me say I don't think they can him right now simply due to the financial corner the administration painted themselves into. That's an ass load of money and would be a flat out embarrassment to pay. But, I also acknowledge that there's a very real chance they make the move if some big donors step up to the plate. Let me also reiterate that I have zero faith in anyone in charge up there to go for the home run, splash hire. We never have and no reason to think we would now. Look back:
Doug Barfield: Nuff said.
Pat Dye: Yes, he turned out to be so good they named the field after him. But when he was hired, it was a collective "Who?" from the fan base. His resume had Wyoming and East Carolina on it.
Terry Bowden: When they announced him, all I could do is ask why?
Tommy Tuberville: Definitely not a splash hire in any way. Admittedly, I was okay with it because I liked what he was doing with a probation ridden Ole Miss.
Gene Chizik: Wasn't it 5-19?
Gus Malzahn: One stinking year of college coaching experience.
I'm of the opinion that we'd wind up with Rhett Lashlee or Scott Loeffler if they made the change. But who do you believe would be the man to take us to the next level? Who would be the hire that the college football world took notice of and said, "Damn, Auburn just got serious about winning."?
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Mario Cristobal though I don't know if the PTB would let him do it. That's the bigger issue. Our PTB won't/can't get out of the way when success happens so we've become Coach Buyout U.
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Mario Cristobal though I don't know if the PTB would let him do it. That's the bigger issue. Our PTB won't/can't get out of the way when success happens so we've become Coach Buyout U.
We have a long history of shitting the bed whenever something good happens or Sexton claims someone is after our coach.
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I think the buyout and the weirdo pandemic season gets Gus at least one more year.
As for replacements:
Kevin Steele
Matt Campbell
Luke Fickell
Josh Heupel
Brian Johnson
Billy Napier
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Honestly, Cristibol or Stoops if you want to improve over what we have now and it be an absolute truth.
Yes, MC lost to Cal Sat and another team the week before. Those were bad but overall, holistically, his track record is great. His recruiting is unreal...and he has SEC experience, is a winner, and experience as a HC at a major program and asst coach exp at an SEC School. He checks off all the boxes really BUT...........would he leave the O and Phil Knight's checkbook and facilities? Probably not unless he felt the fanbase up there turning on him after one super bad loss (and they are actually). He seems to be NFL material if were being honest.
Stoops is as proven as it gets, like him or not. He knows how to win. He knows how to be in the conversation at the end of the year for all the marbles. He knows how to run a major program taking on behemoth rivals at the same time. Oklahoma, believe it or not - is not the easiest place to recruit to even with all of their success. He did it as good as anyone there has and he won, plain and simple. Big game Bob ya may say. Fair enough but he was there every January just about. Most times they were out talented by the others at that point. But would it not be an improvement over what we have to simply be in the conversation about the playoff 4 of 5 years? Yeah, id take him.
Anyone else really? Taking a chance. In that category are:
Matt Campbell - he could ALMOST go into the above category with MC and Stoops. Can he recruit this area? Can he run a major program - no offense to the fine folks in Ames. Although its impressive what he's done there. There is very little pressure to win a lot there as we've seen. Can he duplicate that UNDER a SHIT TON more pressure at a school like Auburn? I would like to think he could but its still uncertain.
Hugh Freeze - scandal ridden at OM. Paying for sex. Paying for players. While preaching the good word from the good book almost 24/7. Is he much better than Gus on the field? I dunno. Liberty has been fun to watch but who is to say Gus wouldn't be better at a smaller less pressure packed school like that. Has Hugh truly gotten past his......past? This could be a Bobby Petrino type situation where many will not touch the guy with a 10 ft pole based off past transgressions - professional and personally. I personally don't like the Evangelistic self righteous tone he carried at OM but that may be just me. Just not sure grabbing him buys us much over Gus other than he's fresh and new, and won't get 7 million a year most likely.
PJ Fleck - I like him. He may very well be good at a major program in the south, but ultimately an unknown, I read Minn took a step back this year due to losing a lot of upperclassmen last year. Although he recruits well for Minn standards - it still won't compete with the other giants of the Big 10. Even though I like Fleck, he is still an unknown. His step back this year at Minn though shouldn't play into it....much like MC, bigger picture here of an overall winner.
Sark - can he stay sober. Can he run another major program without some scandal. We don't know. But I think at the College Level, and the SEC level...hes a good shot caller.
Napier - Fleck light - up and comer, seems good. Who knows?
Several others.
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Hugh Freeze - scandal ridden at OM. Paying for sex. Paying for players.
I like it. I like it a lot.
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Honestly, I would just want somebody proven. Been there, done that at the highest level.
I like the Freeze comparison to Petrino. Could very well work out that way. But I'm a bit cynical about coaches. They like a duck in the water. Calm and cruising on top of the water, but underneath there's a whole lot of shit going on. They're ALL cheating. Saban, Gus, Kirby, Tom Herman, Dabo etc. As long as they keep score and untold billions are flowing through the sport, they cheatin'.
That doesn't bug me about Freeze. He knew to compete with the big guns he had to play the game. The problem IMO, was that he played it too good and #1 was getting players OM has never gotten before or since. That alone calls major attention to your program. And #TWO, he poked the bear. Embarrass Lord Saybinz twice and somebody's getting punished by the NCAA.
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I think the buyout and the weirdo pandemic season gets Gus at least one more year.
As for replacements:
Kevin Steele
Matt Campbell
Luke Fickell
Josh Heupel
Brian Johnson
Billy Napier
Bill Clark should be on any legitimate list. Moron.
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Bill Clark should be on any legitimate list. Moron.
You probably aren’t wrong honestly.
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I never hear Frank Beamer’s goiter mentioned to fill any of these openings.
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That doesn't bug me about Freeze. He knew to compete with the big guns he had to play the game. The problem IMO, was that he played it too good and #1 was getting players OM has never gotten before or since. That alone calls major attention to your program. And #TWO, he poked the bear. Embarrass Lord Saybinz twice and somebody's getting punished by the NCAA.
With a smarter association behind him, he shouldn’t fall into the same pit again. We have been under the bammer attack for so long that we have learned to play a little better at their game. Maybe that is all he needs.
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If it was gonna happen, it would have happened Monday methinks.
Unless the Pirate finds a way, then the PTB might be willing to sacrifice the recruiting class but that's gonna put the new staff way behind. We are stuck with this dude at least through next year. Going into 2022 he'll either be up for extension or gone. Knowing Gus, we'll win 10 games, go to a good bowl, and Sexton will befuddle the AD again.
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With a smarter association behind him, he shouldn’t fall into the same pit again. We have been under the bammer attack for so long that we have learned to play a little better at their game. Maybe that is all he needs.
This^^^
Plus, burner phones for errybody!
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I think the buyout and the weirdo pandemic season gets Gus at least one more year.
As for replacements:
Kevin Steele - No. See Baylor and his inability to build talent that isn't already there on the defense. Do. Not. Want. Would be a move that a Kentucky or Vanderbilt would make.
Matt Campbell - Bright guy but zero recruiting relationships in the southeast. Probably not a good fit.
Luke Fickell - See above.
Josh Heupel - Intriguing. UCF has fallen off a bit but he's a good play caller with the southeastern ties.
Brian Johnson - Interesting choice. Glad his hearing is better. Oh you don't mean the lead singer from AC/DC? Who is this?
Billy Napier - Got all the right marks but jumping from the G5 into the meat grinder that is SEC West is A LOT to ask. There's a reason South Carolina said no. I'd want to know what that was.
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Kevin Steele - No. See Baylor and his inability to build talent that isn't already there on the defense. Do. Not. Want. Would be a move that a Kentucky or Vanderbilt would make.
Matt Campbell - Bright guy but zero recruiting relationships in the southeast. Probably not a good fit.
Luke Fickell - See above.
Josh Heupel - Intriguing. UCF has fallen off a bit but he's a good play caller with the southeastern ties.
Brian Johnson - Interesting choice. Glad his hearing is better. Oh you don't mean the lead singer from AC/DC? Who is this?
Billy Napier - Got all the right marks but jumping from the G5 into the meat grinder that is SEC West is A LOT to ask. There's a reason South Carolina said no. I'd want to know what that was.
Steele - I like the continuity and the fact that he won't stick his nose into the offense. Give him a top-flight OC and a bagman.
Johnson - UF's OC
Napier - Agree about the jump but I think the USCe decision came down to them getting a known quantity. Beamer was an assistant there for a bit.
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This is where I am with it.
We know what we're going to get with man-tits year in and year out. It's not going to change. So that's either accepted or you try something different. It's like an employee. I have one who works for me who is 15 minutes late every day no matter how I set the schedule. No amount of mitigation changes it. Nothing I've done works at getting her there when she's supposed to be. So I either live with that or I try to find somebody who will be on time. She's a decent employee otherwise. Does an adequate job. So I can get rid of her and go through the painful training process and maybe end up with a worse person or I can just accept that this is what it's going to be.
Gus has helped ruin my passion for the game. Not all his fault. But I think Auburn can do better. That said, I could not abide replacing him with Hugh Freeze. The idea that this could be seriously considered disgusts me.
Why would you swap one circus clown for another?
I don't know who would be a good fit. I really don't. But I know that I could never support a charlatan like Hugh.
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I believe GH made the comparison of Freeze and Petrino earlier. Could be. Both hot coaches until their double lives got exposed. Petrino got his chances again and while no personal stuff got in the way (that I'm aware of), he just never got back whatever magic he had prior to his "motorcycle accident".
The personal crap with Freeze doesn't bother me very much. He screwed up, as so many people do. What I'd be more worried about after looking into his actual record, is I believe we'd be getting Gustav The Sequel. I've been kind of caught up in the whole, "He made Ole Miss relevant, beat Saban and look what he's doing at Liberty" dealio. But when you break down his record, he was 10-3 in his one year at Arky State. Guess who was 9-3 in his one year at ASU? He was 39-25 at Ole Miss, which included a 1-3 record against....guess who? Yes, he beat Saban a couple of times. Who has beaten Saban more? Yep, you guessed it.
As K alluded to with making the decision to stay with the status quo or trying something else.....I would opt for something else if they canned the Gusser.
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I would opt for something else if they canned the Gusser.
What about Buzz or Jumbo?
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Posted before but bears repeating.
Auburn is very close to becoming Tennessee and Florida State, sliding into decades of total irrelevancy.
Not saying that's the reason to keep what we've got but we better be right.
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What about Buzz or Jumbo?
Stop being so unrealistic. We have a better chance of landing Urban or Saban than either of these two.
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Posted before but bears repeating.
Auburn is very close to becoming Tennessee and Florida State, sliding into decades of total irrelevancy.
Not saying that's the reason to keep what we've got but we better be right.
I disagree. Auburn has a top 5 college football uniform with the road whites. Possibly top 3. As crazy as it sounds these kids nowadays factor that stuff into their decisions. They are also an iconic school in a great conference with state of the art facilities.
They just need to find the right coach and stick with him. Auburn recruits itself and will always. They just need a good coach who is allowed to do what he wants.
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I disagree. Auburn has a top 5 college football uniform with the road whites. Possibly top 3. As crazy as it sounds these kids nowadays factor that stuff into their decisions. They are also an iconic school in a great conference with state of the art facilities.
They just need to find the right coach and stick with him. Auburn recruits itself and will always. They just need a good coach who is allowed to do what he wants.
False. Auburn's facilities are behind the league and other national leaders. Thus the push for the "football only" facility which, so far, is some cleared land where an old track used to be. The locker room is well-outfitted but incredibly small.
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Ok, well I assumed they were up to par. I stand corrected on that but I still believe they are probably better than 90% of other college teams.
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https://youtu.be/bmDL1l81GT8 (https://youtu.be/bmDL1l81GT8)
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https://youtu.be/bmDL1l81GT8 (https://youtu.be/bmDL1l81GT8)
Looks pretty fucking nice to me.
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What about Buzz or Jumbo?
Fuck Buzz.
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fudge Buzz.
You would love that, wouldn't you?
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You would love that, wouldn't you?
We all would.
Wait....was that too loud?
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We all would.
Wait....was that too loud?
rowr
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You would love that, wouldn't you?
I can neither confirm nor deny this.
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https://youtu.be/bmDL1l81GT8 (https://youtu.be/bmDL1l81GT8)
Clearly upgraded since I last saw it in 2018. Good. I stand corrected.
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Clearly upgraded since I last saw it in 2018. Good. I stand corrected.
I have no idea how that compares to other SEC programs' facilities. Last week, I was supposed to spend 3 days in Tuscaloosa at a seminar. The Rona knocked it out at the last minute. I knew I was going to be behind enemy lines, but I was actually looking forward to taking a look around to see how their facilities compared. I have a feeling it's kind of the gold standard with the money that flows through that program. I haven't been to Tuscaloosa since college.
I've been to a few other campuses and stadiums over the years. Not even close to how many I'd like to visit. FUGA is the most overrated place I've been. I'd take JHS and our campus over that cesspool any day of the week. Been to FSU countless times for both football and basketball games. The stadium is pretty nice. They use the Civic Center downtown for basketball, but they do put on a show. It helps to have beer and liquor kiosks throughout the building. By game's end, I'm usually like, "Thish ish a really nishe fashilities. Go EFFISHOOO".
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I believe GH made the comparison of Freeze and Petrino earlier. Could be. Both hot coaches until their double lives got exposed. Petrino got his chances again and while no personal stuff got in the way (that I'm aware of), he just never got back whatever magic he had prior to his "motorcycle accident".
The personal crap with Freeze doesn't bother me very much. He screwed up, as so many people do. What I'd be more worried about after looking into his actual record, is I believe we'd be getting Gustav The Sequel. I've been kind of caught up in the whole, "He made Ole Miss relevant, beat Saban and look what he's doing at Liberty" dealio. But when you break down his record, he was 10-3 in his one year at Arky State. Guess who was 9-3 in his one year at ASU? He was 39-25 at Ole Miss, which included a 1-3 record against....guess who? Yes, he beat Saban a couple of times. Who has beaten Saban more? Yep, you guessed it.
As K alluded to with making the decision to stay with the status quo or trying something else.....I would opt for something else if they canned the Gusser.
Kind of gravitated towards this view the last 48 hours as well. I’m just meh on freeze. Between what’s went on with chuck person and what freeze did at OM - ncaa may very well setup a satellite office on college street. He got top 10 classes there due to a blank checkbook. And did it obnoxiously. He’s on the radar now. Of both the ncaa and the rec. just don’t know if I want this.
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Ok, well I assumed they were up to par. I stand corrected on that but I still believe they are probably better than 90% of other college teams.
That scoreboard though. Ain’t it the tits ?
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So here we are a few days later and the "what if" became reality. I've said for quite some time that I want the splash, home run hire. Someone that makes the college football world take notice and say Auburn just got serious about winning. We never have in my lifetime and trust me, that's a long time. There's more than a few names out there that would check the boxes; however, I don't trust anyone in our administration to even try. These are not the brightest bulbs on the tree. Let's face it, the only thing taking the heat off Auburn right now for having to pay a coach $21 mil just to leave, is another SEC team losing any shot at a national championship because one of their players threw a shoe.
So since Urban, Bob Stoops, Pete Carroll or Knute Rockne ain't coming, I've tempered my expectations. Some of the names already being tossed out there don't thrill me. Give Kevin Steele a shot? Sweet Haysus, the man was 9-36 (1-31 Big 12) at Baylor. Hugh Freeze? He averaged 5 losses a year at Ole Miss, was 1-3 against Gus and was pretty much black balled by Sankey when Saban thought about bringing him on board. Lane Kiffin? Why? He needs another short-lived coaching stop on his resume?
But maybe that's what we settle for. Probably will be. I will say that just about anyone, other than Steele, would breathe much needed, new life into this program. Just a change in the environment, a new philosophy or a different voice in their ears might breed success in the short term. It did with just about every single previous coach at Auburn. But it's the long term I'm worried about. If we hire Freeze or Kiffin or any number of names being thrown out, are we right back here in a few years having the same conversations? I'd wager we are. We're Auburn.
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Well what about Cristobal? I bet Momma G's would get themselves a Cuban sandwich.
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Well what about Cristobal? I bet Momma G's would get themselves a Cuban sandwich.
Why is it always about race with you?
One really good thing about Crystalball is he'd definitely check the box on recruiting the south.
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Why is it always about race with you?
One really good thing about Crystalball is he'd definitely check the box on recruiting the south.
Motherfucker it's about good eats with me. Whether it be a Cuban sandwich or chicken and waffles. My racism is delicious.
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Motherfudgeer it's about good eats with me. Whether it be a Cuban sandwich or chicken and waffles. My racism is delicious.
It's cool. He's taking it back.
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It's cool. He's taking it back.
Turns out Grandma WAS pretty racist.
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Why is it always about race with you?
One really good thing about Crystalball is he'd definitely check the box on recruiting the south.
Probably the #1 attainable option. Recruits like a MFer....not that it matters, but he's a Saban type old school discplinarian. Fundamentals...all that shit. Has a great pedigree - played at the U in the late 80's, has coached under good ones including Saban, he's an OL and OL Coach by trade so there is a big need addressed and his OL's at Oregon have been great - one of them will go top 5 overall in April.
I worry a little about his in game on the fly coaching after watching what he did in the opener last year. That team - for all practical purposes - beat Auburn. But somehow lost the game.
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If no Stoops then give me Sarkisian and hope to retain Steele.
Like that Freeze connects with the entire team over Kiffen's one track mind. Both can put up points and should have a good handle on cheating by now.
Needs to be a regional guy familiar with the culture and a relentless recruiter.
Don't know about a Cristobal but I can get excited about a Cuban sandwich over Bill Clark. But maybe Clark is the best choice.
He's of high character and a winner.
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If no Stoops then give me Sarkisian and hope to retain Steele.
Like that Freeze connects with the entire team over Kiffen's one track mind. Both can put up points and should have a good handle on cheating by now.
Needs to be a regional guy familiar with the culture and a relentless recruiter.
Don't know about a Cristobal but I can get excited about a Cuban sandwich over Bill Clark. But maybe Clark is the best choice.
He's of high character and a winner.
Sarkisian, Freeze, Kiffin.... fuck me running.
Why scrape the bottom of the barrel when you can lift the barrel up and paw at the ground underneath it?
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Sarkisian, Freeze, Kiffin.... fudge me running.
Why scrape the bottom of the barrel when you can lift the barrel up and paw at the ground underneath it?
JABA?
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So. I keep hearing Bill Clark's name come up.
Is UAB considered on par with NApier's LA school? If so, shouldn't Clark be way ahead of Napier on everyone's radar?
What keeps Clark from being the top candidate? He is an in state guy. Recruits well. What he has done with UAB is unbelievable.
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JABA?
Just Auburn Being Auburn
not sure who coined it but basically meaning we gonna fuck it up.
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If no Stoops then give me Sarkisian and hope to retain Steele.
Like that Freeze connects with the entire team over Kiffen's one track mind. Both can put up points and should have a good handle on cheating by now.
Needs to be a regional guy familiar with the culture and a relentless recruiter.
Don't know about a Cristobal but I can get excited about a Cuban sandwich over Bill Clark. But maybe Clark is the best choice.
He's of high character and a winner.
First of all, I thought you was dead. I’m happy to see that you are not.
Secondly, if I ever see or hear of you disparaging Bill Clark again, you and I are going to have to take this outside. Or, we can rearrange the furniture in here. It don’t make a shit to me.
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To Bill Clark :bar:
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So I see Bo is on the selection committee. That means it's going to be unpopular and Bo helps sugar coat it as we are forced to eat. JABA for sure. Paying $21 million to hire/promote a 62 year DC who failed miserably at his only stint as HC is the most Auburn thing to ever Auburn.
I won't even hold his HC record against him since Baylor was basically a dumpster fire back then. The fact that he hasn't been called or found a HC job since then tells me a lot.
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So I see Bo is on the selection committee. That means it's going to be unpopular and Bo helps sugar coat it as we are forced to eat. JABA for sure. Paying $21 million to hire/promote a 62 year DC who failed miserably at his only stint as HC is the most Auburn thing to ever Auburn.
I won't even hold his HC record against him since Baylor was basically a dumpster fire back then. The fact that he hasn't been called or found a HC job since then tells me a lot.
You are correct, sir. Do...not....want....Steele.
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So I see Bo is on the selection committee. That means it's going to be unpopular and Bo helps sugar coat it as we are forced to eat. JABA for sure. Paying $21 million to hire/promote a 62 year DC who failed miserably at his only stint as HC is the most Auburn thing to ever Auburn.
I won't even hold his HC record against him since Baylor was basically a dumpster fire back then. The fact that he hasn't been called or found a HC job since then tells me a lot.
I like him but the motherfucker is old as the hills.
You are right about that part. Fuck!
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Sarkisian, Freeze, Kiffin.... fuck me running.
Why scrape the bottom of the barrel when you can lift the barrel up and paw at the ground underneath it?
All are flawed. Don't know anything about Napier or some of the outliers but Bill Clark has no baggage of which I am aware.
Probably a serial killer.
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First of all, I thought you was dead. I’m happy to see that you are not.
Secondly, if I ever see or hear of you disparaging Bill Clark again, you and I are going to have to take this outside. Or, we can rearrange the furniture in here. It don’t make a shit to me.
On the contrary I have high regard for Bill Clark sir. He just doesn't bounce the needle. Maybe it's because he isn't bustin' moves with the team or writing books about offensive football.
He could be the answer.
And no, I'm not dead yet.
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So. I keep hearing Bill Clark's name come up.
Is UAB considered on par with NApier's LA school? If so, shouldn't Clark be way ahead of Napier on everyone's radar?
What keeps Clark from being the top candidate? He is an in state guy. Recruits well. What he has done with UAB is unbelievable.
FWIW, I think Rodney Garner makes more than Bill Clark. That said, it would be quite a leap to get Clark to Steele's salary.
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So I see Bo is on the selection committee. That means it's going to be unpopular and Bo helps sugar coat it as we are forced to eat. JABA for sure. Paying $21 million to hire/promote a 62 year DC who failed miserably at his only stint as HC is the most Auburn thing to ever Auburn.
I won't even hold his HC record against him since Baylor was basically a dumpster fire back then. The fact that he hasn't been called or found a HC job since then tells me a lot.
He ain't no Brent Venables.
But then who is?
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On the contrary I have high regard for Bill Clark sir. He just doesn't bounce the needle. Maybe it's because he isn't bustin' moves with the team or writing books about offensive football.
He could be the answer.
And no, I'm not dead yet.
As I think u know, I’m half bullshitting about Clark but I, too, have high regard for him. I don’t think they will go after him but I’d be fine with giving him a shot.
All these coaching search experts will poo poo on any name but the hottest. Pat Dye would never have a chance with them. Of course, I think he died. But you know where I’m going.
I hope they offer Kevin because that’s the last name Snags wants, which means it’s probably the best choice that we could make.
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Any of the names listed are better options than Steele. ANY of them. But if it comes to Steele as HC being the go-to guy? You'll know the search went Knoxville style south quickly.
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Now, I’m sure. Steele should 100% be the man.
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Just gonna leave this here for your consideration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Elliott_(American_football_coach) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Elliott_(American_football_coach))
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Just gonna leave this here for your consideration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Elliott_(American_football_coach) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Elliott_(American_football_coach))
This would be the first time we’d ever hired a former NASCAR driver, to my knowledge.
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We are sooo and going to fuck this up royally.
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We are sooo and going to fudge this up royally.
Yep.
Pay 21M to get rid of an average coach to go and hire a guy hasn't been a head coach in 20 years, and who 2-31 in conference.
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We are sooo and going to fuck this up royally.
He speaks for 98% or 357/385ths of us.
I've said it time and time again. I want Gus gone, but I don't trust anyone associated with Auburn to handle a new hire correctly. When they made the decision to let him go, that Air Petrino 737 should have already made the round trip flight to Oregon or Urbanville or Stoopstown or somewhere that a good coach resides. Now, here we are as a laughing stock for paying $21 mil and having 50 fucking names flying around.
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He speaks for 98% or 357/385ths of us.
I've said it time and time again. I want Gus gone, but I don't trust anyone associated with Auburn to handle a new hire correctly. When they made the decision to let him go, that Air Petrino 737 should have already made the round trip flight to Oregon or Urbanville or Stoopstown or somewhere that a good coach resides. Now, here we are as a laughing stock for paying $21 mil and having 50 fucking names flying around.
I don’t get getting into a bidding war with anyone over an 8-4 Coach. No matter who it is.
Steele won’t cost 8 million to try. If he doesn’t work, it’ll cost one year. Big deal.
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What's with all the pomp and circumstance when all you need to do is call Jimmy?
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I don’t get getting into a bidding war with anyone over an 8-4 Coach. No matter who it is.
Steele won’t cost 8 million to try. If he doesn’t work, it’ll cost one year. Big deal.
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Don't y'all see that Steele is just a smokescreen? While we are all wailing and gnashing our teeth over this possibility, AG has been camped in tuscalooser until Saban accepts his rose.
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Don't y'all see that Steele is just a smokescreen? While we are all wailing and gnashing our teeth over this possibility, AG has been camped in tuscalooser until Saban accepts his rose.
If we do get Saban as reported, I sure hope he brings the bag man with him.
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If we do get Saban as reported, I sure hope he brings the bag man with him.
I thought WE!!! was already an Auburn fan?
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I thought WE!!! was already an Auburn fan?
He bringing Cadillacs instead of Chargers
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I don’t get getting into a bidding war with anyone over an 8-4 Coach. No matter who it is.
Steele won’t cost 8 million to try. If he doesn’t work, it’ll cost one year. Big deal.
Not comparing MC to NS by any means but the record isn't always an indicator.....recruiting, the trenches, what they inherit vs what they turn it into - the context means a lot.
NS had two 8-5 and one 9-3 season in 5 total at LSU. Several 6 and 7 win seasons at MSU. And this was all known when Mal ponied up the second go round after the Gumps made fun of RichRod's old lady......NS recruited like a mad man at both places and it was obvious he changed both cultures while there....which is exactly the thing Bama needed at the time.
Mal largely ignored some of their biggest doofus meddling Boosters, aligned himself with Bryant Jr, and did what he had to do. Handed the keys to the Kingdom to a culture changing coach. Im not one to try and be little brother following big brother but this is exactly the kind of thing that needs to occur right now with Allen Greene and Gogue (and possibly a reappearing of Lowder). It is beyond time to tell YellaFella and Hedge Fund Harbert to F off.
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Not comparing MC to NS by any means but the record isn't always an indicator.....recruiting, the trenches, what they inherit vs what they turn it into - the context means a lot.
NS had two 8-5 and one 9-3 season in 5 total at LSU. Several 6 and 7 win seasons at MSU. And this was all known when Mal ponied up the second go round after the Gumps made fun of RichRod's old lady......NS recruited like a mad man at both places and it was obvious he changed both cultures while there....which is exactly the thing Bama needed at the time. Mal largely ignored some of their biggest doofus meddling Boosters, aligned himself with Bryant Jr, and did what he had to do. Handed the keys to the Kingdom to a culture changing coach. Im not one to try and be little brother following big brother but this is exactly the kind of thing that needs to occur right now with Allen Greene.
All good points but I don’t see what this has to do with us getting Rhett Lashley.
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All good points but I don’t see what this has to do with us getting Rhett Lashley.
some are saying the same with MC. Believe it or not....
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some are saying the same with MC. Believe it or not....
All kidding aside, I’m fine with super Mario or Steele, myself. But I hate to pay 8 mil to Oregon and then him go 7 wins for 3 years. Chances you take buying used.
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So Super Mario Crystal Ball signs an extension with the Ducks and is off the table. Let me preface this by saying I am in no way trying to pull a "We didn't want him anyway" or "He wasn't on the Sugar Bowl roster" dealio. That's not where this is going.
But did Auburn even try and sign him? Ultimately, it doesn't matter because it looks like we did. Somehow, some way, even before Gus was canned, Cristobal was tabbed as one of the top candidates for the job. The media declared we were going after him. Talk shows said it. Message boards were all over it. My question though, is did anyone in power at Auburn actually ever say he was even a possibility? If they did, I haven't seen it anywhere.
Regardless, whether we went after him or not, we have egg on our face. Go back to the process of hiring Malzahn. There was a search committee. Wait, no, that was a smoke screen. Jacobs was really behind it all, right? He wants a "puppet he can be in control of" A yes man. Wait, I heard Petrino was on campus. He would be announced tomorrow. Hold on, I'm hearing it's not CBP.... It went on and on and on. Turns out nobody had a clue what really happened. It was none of the above. Until Kirby Smart came out much later and admitted the job was his, was anybody on top of that? Nope!
Bottom line for me, until they announce the next coach, it's all just speculation by everybody that claims to know something.
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So Super Mario Crystal Ball signs an extension with the Ducks and is off the table. Let me preface this by saying I am in no way trying to pull a "We didn't want him anyway" or "He wasn't on the Sugar Bowl roster" dealio. That's not where this is going.
But did Auburn even try and sign him? Ultimately, it doesn't matter because it looks like we did. Somehow, some way, even before Gus was canned, Cristobal was tabbed as one of the top candidates for the job. The media declared we were going after him. Talk shows said it. Message boards were all over it. My question though, is did anyone in power at Auburn actually ever say he was even a possibility? If they did, I haven't seen it anywhere.
Regardless, whether we went after him or not, we have egg on our face. Go back to the process of hiring Malzahn. There was a search committee. Wait, no, that was a smoke screen. Jacobs was really behind it all, right? He wants a "puppet he can be in control of" A yes man. Wait, I heard Petrino was on campus. He would be announced tomorrow. Hold on, I'm hearing it's not CBP.... It went on and on and on. Turns out nobody had a clue what really happened. It was none of the above. Until Kirby Smart came out much later and admitted the job was his, was anybody on top of that? Nope!
Bottom line for me, until they announce the next coach, it's all just speculation by everybody that claims to know something.
Not that it really matters, given that we currently look like a pack of drunken monkeys fucking a deflated football (according to the media) but "board approves" and "coach signs" are two vastly different things.
I haven't seen where he actually accepted it yet.
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So Super Mario Crystal Ball signs an extension with the Ducks and is off the table. Let me preface this by saying I am in no way trying to pull a "We didn't want him anyway" or "He wasn't on the Sugar Bowl roster" dealio. That's not where this is going.
But did Auburn even try and sign him? Ultimately, it doesn't matter because it looks like we did. Somehow, some way, even before Gus was canned, Cristobal was tabbed as one of the top candidates for the job. The media declared we were going after him. Talk shows said it. Message boards were all over it. My question though, is did anyone in power at Auburn actually ever say he was even a possibility? If they did, I haven't seen it anywhere.
Regardless, whether we went after him or not, we have egg on our face. Go back to the process of hiring Malzahn. There was a search committee. Wait, no, that was a smoke screen. Jacobs was really behind it all, right? He wants a "puppet he can be in control of" A yes man. Wait, I heard Petrino was on campus. He would be announced tomorrow. Hold on, I'm hearing it's not CBP.... It went on and on and on. Turns out nobody had a clue what really happened. It was none of the above. Until Kirby Smart came out much later and admitted the job was his, was anybody on top of that? Nope!
Bottom line for me, until they announce the next coach, it's all just speculation by everybody that claims to know something.
We haven't had a legit search since Pat Dye was hired to beat Georgia and hang with the Tahd.
And looking back there are really about two, too many loses each to UGA, LSU and State that might be the difference in retaining Malzahn if you ignore the FSU meltdown, UCF, the TAMU snap, the Guantanamoing and that time we Climpsomed. There are at least a half dozen more head scratchers if you look closely.
There's no defending that salary.
But to the media and naysayers Auburn people are operating under a fantasy and overate the program
beyond reasonable expectations.
That said, let's give the motherfuckers what they want.
Go big or go home!
Rhett Lashley or Elijah Drinkowicz.
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At least Rhett Lashley is still available.
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At least Rhett Lashley is still available.
Don't sleep on that Drinkowicz feller. He's phenomenal with numbers.
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So Phil Knight expedites Cristobal's contract just days after he responded to news of contact from Auburn.
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So Phil Knight expedites Cristobal's contract just days after he responded to news of contact from Auburn.
I had already stopped buying Nike anyway. They support the blacks.
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I had already stopped buying Nike anyway. They support the blacks.
I know some black people and I just listened to Nat King Cole singing about roasting chestnuts.
So I'm appalled by your bigotry.
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I had already stopped buying Nike anyway. They support the blacks.
Some of my best friends are Nike supporters.
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If Steele is indeed the choice I'm good with having Bobo as OC.
Not as sold on Kelly but maybe some time in Tuscaloosa gives him an edge.
Don't really have an opinion on the choice given the idiocy that always surrounds any leadership selection at Auburn.
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If Steele is indeed the choice I'm good with having Bobo as OC.
Not as sold on Kelly but maybe some time in Tuscaloosa gives him an edge.
Don't really have an opinion on the choice given the idiocy that always surrounds any leadership selection at Auburn.
Steele and Bobo?
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Kill. Me. Now.
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It's sooo Auburn.
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If we hire Steele, I'm done. I will root for whatever college is paying my bills.
And right now, it's Rutgers.
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If we hire Steele, I'm done. I will root for whatever college is paying my bills.
And right now, it's Rutgers.
Just like you to jump on the bandwagon of a perennial football champion. Way to step out there.
Go Duke!
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If Steele is hired, will they leave the bags on each seat, or will we need to purchase them on the way in?
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BTEY6X/auburn-university-football-fan-showing-embarrassment-with-paper-bag-BTEY6X.jpg)
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If Steele is hired, will they leave the bags on each seat, or will we need to purchase them on the way in?
Do you really have to ask that, knowing our admin?
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Do you really have to ask that, knowing our admin?
You won't be allowed to bring your own bag. You will have to buy a bag from the Bag-Gate Guys who will deliver a CDC-approved, Fauci-endorsed, sanitized, souvenir War Baggle in orange, blue or white. No fan will be permitted in the stadium unless he/she/zhe/zhem/zhey/zou wears an officially licensed optional War Baggle -- which is optionally mandatory.
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War Baggle!!!! If Steele is hired, I'm stealing this and marketing t-shirts and other War Baggle merchandise. Brilliant!
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War Baggle!!!! If Steele is hired, I'm stealing this and marketing t-shirts and other War Baggle merchandise. Brilliant!
I want 15%
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I want 15%
12.5% and a 2016 Kia Soul, but that's as far as I'm going.
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War Damn Baggle!
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You won't be allowed to bring your own bag. You will have to buy a bag from the Bag-Gate Guys who will deliver a CDC-approved, Fauci-endorsed, sanitized, souvenir War Baggle in orange, blue or white. No fan will be permitted in the stadium unless he/she/zhe/zhem/zhey/zou wears an officially licensed optional War Baggle -- which is optionally mandatory.
You can get them wholesale on Alibaba.
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We should probably post a warning about using plastic bags. Especially for some on here.
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We should probably post a warning about using plastic bags. Especially for some on here.
You damn hippies and your "save the world" stuff
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We should probably post a warning about using plastic bags. Especially for some on here.
If you want Steele as coach, you get the plastic bag.
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You damn hippies and your "save the world" stuff
I have a hippie Doug Jones supporter in my neighborhood. Stickers cover his old Toyota.
He's for anything but liberty.
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If you want Steele as coach, you get the plastic bag.
I think we should get out ahead of this and say the Russians hacked our coaching selection even though we know Chyna is to blame.
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I think we should get out ahead of this and say the Russians hacked our coaching selection even though we know Chyna is to blame.
Where's Adam Schiff when you need his watermelon head?
Hopefully he's still cleaning up the shit that was laid outside his office when Kaos was out in Cali a year or so ago.
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Where's Adam Schiff when you need his watermelon head?
Hopefully he's still cleaning up the shit that was laid outside his office when Kaos was out in Cali a year or so ago.
Yeah I actually thought Schiff was the brains behind the entire 4 year coup but it turned out to be Chinese bots and that bag of bones Speaker Pelosi.
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I hope all you motherfuckers ain’t dead from the Hung Kung flu by next year when Steele goes undefeated and wins another Natty for AU.
Bunch of low energy motherfuckers.
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So it appears we will be interviewing Sark on Sunday after the SECCG. Meh, better choice than Steele.
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I hope all you motherfudgeers ain’t dead from the Hung Kung flu by next year when Steele goes undefeated and wins another Natty for AU.
Bunch of low energy motherfudgeers.
I hope they play Rutgers and the Knights skull fuck Kevin Steele.
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So it appears we will be interviewing Sark on Sunday after the SECCG. Meh, better choice than Steele.
Somebody needs to cobble some consistency on the offensive side, particularly in the red zone. Sick of seeing Carlson.
And it would be nice to put pressure on an opposing QB now and then.
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I hope they play Rutgers and the Knights skull fuck Kevin Steele.
Take off you hoser.
And watch your language.
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You're Auburn and you take what we give you. Happy Holiday!
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So it appears we will be interviewing Sark on Sunday after the SECCG. Meh, better choice than Steele.
Is there no other drunken washed up piece of shit available?
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Is there no other drunken washed up piece of shoot available?
Well that's it boys, he done been redeemed. The sabbin's done washed away all his sins and transgressions. It's the straight and narrow from here on out
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Is there no other drunken washed up piece of shit available?
Not one that can beat our brains out like this guy but we're still looking.
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Well that's it boys, he done been redeemed. The sabbin's done washed away all his sins and transgressions. It's the straight and narrow from here on out
(https://i.imgur.com/TjHrVnG.png)
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You're Auburn and you take what we give you. Happy Holiday!
Me and Jimmy Rane gone be deciding this. You are all in good hands with me and the yellow fellow.
In all sincerity, would you believe it to be in the best interest of Auburn for you poor people to have any input on this?
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Me and Jimmy Rane gone be deciding this. You are all in good hands with me and the yellow fellow.
In all sincerity, would you believe it to be in the best interest of Auburn for you poor people to have any input on this?
Who did the Yeller Feller want when Dye wanted Kirby?
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And Sark lost 4 or 5 games per year in an easier conference to navigate. Whatever became of Chris Petersen?
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And Sark lost 4 or 5 games per year in an easier conference to navigate. Whatever became of Chris Petersen?
Not sure about this. But I do know that Wes would love it for us to hire any coach with Peter in his name.
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Never mind. Dude caught a case of the Urban Meyers. It's deadly.
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Never mind. Dude caught a case of the Urban Meyers. It's deadly.
He became a great big douche too?
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He became a great big douche too?
Oh okay. I thought he was mild mannered and sort of tight lipped.
Not so huh?
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Oh okay. I thought he was mild mannered and sort of tight lipped.
Not so huh?
Wes? Tight lipped?
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So, it looks like we are going to interview Steele, Sark, Tony Elliot, Brent Venables and Napier this week.
I'm ok with any of those other than Steele. We hire Steele, we automatically become UT.
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So, it looks like we are going to interview Steele, Sark, Tony Elliot, Brent Venables and Napier this week.
I'm ok with any of those other than Steele. We hire Steele, we automatically become UT.
I guess I'm out of the loop but this looks like the $1 bin at Dirt Cheap.
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I guess I'm out of the loop but this looks like the $1 bin at Dirt Cheap.
Very underwhelming list.
Steele makes me think of the Oliver debacle.
Neither of the Clemson coordinators have been a head coach but I would take Sark over Elliott. And even Muschamp has head coaching experience over Venables.
Kiffen can coach offense but he seems to ignore defense as if it doesn't exist.
Napier is making $880 G which is more than even Bill Clark. It's almost like rookie baseball money. There is a scale of sorts that involves several million to get them at a respectful SEC rate or at least in the neighborhood of the top coordinators. Huge leap.
...I think we maintain some steady four or five loss seasons with any of these choices until patience runs out.
The quickest recovery from all initially mentioned is Hugh Freeze.
Haven't heard any more about Gundy or Campbell.
So it looks like a lineup of rookies, drunks, assholes, pervs, cheats and anger management cases.
No worries!
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I guess I'm out of the loop but this looks like the $1 bin at Dirt Cheap.
We need a Steele. Or, at least a bargain. The first questions in the interview is, “Can Big Jimmy stand on the sidelines if we hire you?â€
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Who did the Yeller Feller want when Dye wanted Kirby?
Houston Dale
yes I’m serious.
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If 1/3 of what I’ve heard is true Auburn is quite literally an episode of Bozo the Clown.
It’s turning my stomach.
I don’t want any part of it. They hire Steele? That’s it for me.
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If the reports of an available “big name†reaching out are true, that makes it more interesting, at least.
Crazy as it is to actually dream about Bob Stoops, that’s the only press conference win that I can think of. And press conference wins don’t mean shit.
No matter who we hire, until we catch up with facilities AND at least get closer with what we spend for players, we won’t be any better off.
Read it and weep.
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If the reports of an available “big name†reaching out are true, that makes it more interesting, at least.
Crazy as it is to actually dream about Bob Stoops, that’s the only press conference win that I can think of. And press conference wins don’t mean shoot.
No matter who we hire, until we catch up with facilities AND at least get closer with what we spend for players, we won’t be any better off.
Read it and weep.
There’s no “big name†that is serious. Dumbasses are trying to talk themselves into believing Urban is interested.
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If the reports of an available “big name†reaching out are true, that makes it more interesting, at least.
Crazy as it is to actually dream about Bob Stoops, that’s the only press conference win that I can think of. And press conference wins don’t mean shit.
No matter who we hire, until we catch up with facilities AND at least get closer with what we spend for players, we won’t be any better off.
Read it and weep.
I don't want to win the press conference necessarily, but I also don't want it to be an episode of The Gong Show.
Hire Steele and I might go and throw a shoe.
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So now we are getting the espionage version from Finebaum who has had no relevant access to Auburn for almost two decades.
Just don't believe the whole coup version of Steele trying to undermine Malzahn.
Steele is up in years. He makes over 3M. The PTB could form fit many head coach/offensive coordinators while keeping him on staff.
But then...why isn't Rodney Garner playing his usual role of program caretaker?
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We probably keep idiot Gus if he beats Georgia and LSU twice each.
Even with the indecision, paranoia, ridiculous play calling and failure to bring along QBs...
...among other things.
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There’s no “big name†that is serious. Dumbasses are trying to talk themselves into believing Urban is interested.
I haven’t heard Snags or Buzz say anything about Urban.
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I haven’t heard Snags or Buzz say anything about Urban.
So it seems we are supposed to believe that Auburn can't interest the biggest names in cfb knowing that Brinks trucks are involved.
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What's more. Some of the dizziest media types want people to believe there's no amount of money that would make someone leave 1M for 4M to a nightmarish career killer like AUBURN.
That's utter bullshit.
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I haven’t heard Snags or Buzz say anything about Urban.
I thought he was taking nervous medication like Petersen.
Too much pressure.
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So it seems we are supposed to believe that Auburn can't interest the biggest names in cfb knowing that Brinks trucks are involved.
I don’t think that the pay at auburn is astronomically more. It is one of the top paying programs for sure.
It is also one of the top alum meddling with BoT politics and pissing matches.
Snags demanding shower pics is a prime example.
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Sark, Napier, Steele and Neal Brown.
Give me Sark or Steele. Sometimes, you get what you get.
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Sark, Napier, Steele and Neal Brown.
Give me Sark or Steele. Sometimes, you get what you get.
The fake media will give us somebody we don't want.
Greene seems to be good with letting them control the "search."
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Maybe we should hire Steele if he's smart enough to hold everyone hostage and get the ransom as well.
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I’m sure some of you get tired of my funny jokes about having insider information re AU athletics but I really do know quite a few people. Many of them are influential and yes, compared to people on here, I’m a king maker.
But I do know that it’s a done deal for certain, regarding them firing Gus. He gone.
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I haven’t heard Snags or Buzz say anything about Urban.
DO NOT WANT
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I’m sure some of you get tired of my funny jokes about having insider information re AU athletics but I really do know quite a few people. Many of them are influential and yes, compared to people on here, I’m a king maker.
But I do know that it’s a done deal for certain, regarding them firing Gus. He gone.
I'm hearing Steele will be the interim coach. Plus, my sources are telling me we may have a New Year's Day game in the Citrus Bowl against Northwestern. My sources are almost always half right.
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Latest intel on Auburn coaching search, Billy Napier
There's a handful of coaching candidates in the mix at Auburn and the Tigers' vacancy may not be open much longer. According to 247Sports national analyst Josh Pate, Auburn has honed in on a few names and one could be next in line to lead on the Plains.
UAB coach Bill Clark interviewed over the weekend and the conversation went well, Pate reports.
"(He's) probably looking at a second interview," Pate tweeted on Sunday. "Same (source) believes Billy Napier is strong contender for the job, possibly the favorite if it isn't Kevin Steele. Personal feeling here — Think Bill Clark is still a long shot for Auburn even though many have been impressed with him."
Per Auburn Undercover's hot board 5.0, Steele is a "Tier 1" candidate in the search, while Napier and Clark are at the top of tiers 2 and 3, respectively.
Clark was asked about his potential interest in the Auburn vacancy following Friday's conference championship win over Marshall.
“I won’t comment on that other than to say, like I told you before, I love UAB,†Clark said. “This is mine, and we built it together. But it’s always good to be thought of, and that’s my job in this business to win games. And when that happens, I think people see that. So, you know, we’ll just see what happens, but I love my players and love UAB.â€
Clark has received the blessing of many national analysts, including ESPN's Trevor Matich, who said last week he would best fit Auburn's culture and knows what it takes to win.
“Bill Clark has done a phenomenal job at UAB and coaches that coach high school within the recruiting footprint know they can trust him,†Matich said. “Plus, because of the shutdown of the program for a couple of years and managing the politics of that whole scenario and then bringing them back to win the first conference championship in school history.
"He understands how to navigate the politics and use them to his benefit, which really is job No. 1 at Auburn. I think it’s Bill Clark and he should keep Kevin Steele as his assistant head coach to once again help navigate the waters of Auburn and maximize what other people see as a detriment.â€
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In addition, Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian is expected to interview this week and Clemson coordinators Tony Elliott and Brent Venables are considered targets.
https://247sports.com/Article/Auburn-football-coaching-search-Billy-Napier-Bill-Clark-Kevin-Steele-157522042/ (https://247sports.com/Article/Auburn-football-coaching-search-Billy-Napier-Bill-Clark-Kevin-Steele-157522042/)
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I'm hearing Steele will be the interim coach. Plus, my sources are telling me we may have a New Year's Day game in the Citrus Bowl against Northwestern. My sources are almost always half right.
You can’t spell citrus without UT.
Napier not experienced enough. Maybe a good candidate for Troy. Not AU.
Give me Steele before him every day.
I say give Bill Clark a chance. He works his ass off at recruiting and has outperformed at UAB.
What’s to lose?
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You can’t spell citrus without UT.
Napier not experienced enough. Maybe a good candidate for Troy. Not AU.
Give me Steele before him every day.
I say give Bill Clark a chance. He works his ass off at recruiting and has outperformed at UAB.
What’s to lose?
Games?
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Games?
At this point, it doesn't matter. We could steal Clark for a great price. Give him $8-$10 mill and let him prove himself for a couple of years and then bump up his contract.
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At this point, it doesn't matter. We could steal Clark for a great price. Give him $8-$10 mill and let him prove himself for a couple of years and then bump up his contract.
Wait...you're expecting anyone in Auburn's administration to do something that makes sense?
(https://i.imgur.com/mxibSjp.png)
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Games?
This is a ridiculous response. No matter this coaching search is a fiasco with alumni this dumb.
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This is a ridiculous response. No matter this coaching search is a fiasco with alumni this dumb.
I know you are, but what am I?
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At this point, it doesn't matter. We could steal Clark for a great price. Give him $8-$10 mill and let him prove himself for a couple of years and then bump up his contract.
^^This
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If GF were still alive we’d already know who the new coach is. But none of the current dick wads know shit.
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If GF were still alive we’d already know who the new coach is. But none of the current richard wads know shoot.
We'd also have a like button.
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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.72)][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.88)]Billy Napier has turned down Auburn job[/color][/size][/color]
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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6)]December 21, 2020 11:43 am[/color]
[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.72)]Billy Napier quickly became the favorite to land the Auburn head coaching position on Monday after it was revealed that both Kevin Steele and Steve Sarkisian are out of the race.
Well, that didn’t last long. Per Shannon Terry of 247Sports, Napier has turned down the Auburn job.
https://auburnwire.usatoday.com/2020/12/21/billy-napier-turns-down-offer-auburn/[/color]
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I think the stars are lining up for Clark
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We'd also have a like button.
Not sure about that. Actually, he may have been the one that broke it.
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I think the stars are lining up for Clark
To Bill Clark and Brasky :bar:
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My boy Timbo and Bill Bras...um, Clark are gonna rule the world!
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So is Freeze just off the board? As I said earlier, I think he'd be Gus The Sequel. He doesn't thrill me, but UAB's coach does even less for me. At least Freeze has recruited some elite players and corched in the SEC West.
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So is Freeze just off the board? As I said earlier, I think he'd be Gus The Sequel. He doesn't thrill me, but UAB's coach does even less for me. At least Freeze has recruited some elite players and corched in the SEC West.
He's tainted according to the creed thumpers. Plus, he would not let hardwood guys roam the sidelines.
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He's tainted according to the creed thumpers. Plus, he would not let hardwood guys roam the sidelines.
That’s enough talk about my hardwood.
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So is Freeze just off the board? As I said earlier, I think he'd be Gus The Sequel. He doesn't thrill me, but UAB's coach does even less for me. At least Freeze has recruited some elite players and corched in the SEC West.
I hope that bucky beaver fuck is off the planet.
Wouldn't touch his sanctimonious ass with a 39 1/2 foot pole.
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I hope that bucky beaver fuck is off the planet.
Wouldn't touch his sanctimonious ass with a 39 1/2 foot pole.
This is the only thing you’ve ever said that I agree with. Primarily due to the racism.
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I hope that bucky beaver fuck is off the planet.
Wouldn't touch his sanctimonious ass with a 39 1/2 foot pole.
You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
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You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
My heart's an empty fucking hole.
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How the hell do we hire Bruce but can't find our own dick when hiring a football coach? At this rate we'll probably hire Bill Clark.
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None of it matters. We're a basketball school now! :aoop:
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How the hell do we hire Bruce but can't find our own dick when hiring a football coach? At this rate we'll probably hire Bill Clark Hugh Freeze.
Fixed
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How the hell do we hire Bruce but can't find our own dick when hiring a football coach? At this rate we'll probably hire Bill Clark.
To Bill Clark
:bar:
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Finebaum is making fun of us. Big surprise there, right? Also just read an article by Pat Forde entitled something along the lines of Auburn's coaching search already becoming comical.
Problem is, they're right.
A couple of things here. I truly believe that 90% of the information disseminated on a daily basis from "sources close to the situation" about the coaching search, is a load of cow crap thrown up against the wall to see what sticks and so somebody can claim they were right. Nobody got the Chizik hire right and very few "insiders" saw the Gus Bus headed to Auburn. But we'll eventually hire somebody and again, nobody will know the real story behind how he got the job.
Here's the biggest problem for me. They locked themselves into a $21 million buyout to get rid of a coach with no plan in place. As I said earlier, that Air Petrino 747 should have already made that round trip and wrapped up a new coach long before that decision was made. And here we are 8 days after Gus' firing being thought of as a laughing stock again.
By failing to have a plan, we've opened ourselves up to ridicule, much of which is warranted because the even bigger failure is not having any leadership. We appear completely dysfunctional and unfortunately, that may be just the case. No one at Auburn is out in front of this thing and it looks like....again...that there's division between those who are supposed to be in charge, and those who want to be.
As I said at the start, I don't believe 90% of the stuff being reported. However, the picture being painted about recent events looks like this:
*We paid a man $21 million to leave. A man with the best record in the SEC against the current measuring stick for all coaches. WTF is Auburn thinking.
*Auburn formed a search committee. No, they hired a search firm out of Atlanta to help find a coach. No, it's actually a couple of boosters who will make the decision, but they're in totally different camps themselves. Stupid, dysfunctional Auburn.
*Mario Cristobal was their number one target, but he turned them down.
*Kevin Steele now appears to be the man. Why? Well, because according to "sources", Bobby Lowder and others have been planning this coup for the last three years to get Gus out and put Steele in his place. But now the Auburn fan base has started a #notsteele or #fucksteele or #anybodybutsteel go fund me page or some shit. So Steele's out....unless he's not.
*Billy Napier is now the leading candidate, but wait, he's staying at Louisiana. Sarkisian will interview at Auburn, but wait, no he's not. Hey Paaawwwwwl, all these here coaches is turning Awbren down. How many we up to Paaaawwwl?
*Bill Clark is now the leading candidate.....
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:bar: To Bill Clark being announced at a 4:30 press conference.
I didn't say what day or who was holding the press conference or what the press conference would be about. See what I did there?
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Bottom line is, we gonna get whomever the fuck Snags and Big Jimmy say we gone get. And like it.
Or, they will burn this motherfucker down.
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Finebaum is making fun of us. Big surprise there, right? Also just read an article by Pat Forde entitled something along the lines of Auburn's coaching search already becoming comical.
Problem is, they're right.
A couple of things here. I truly believe that 90% of the information disseminated on a daily basis from "sources close to the situation" about the coaching search, is a load of cow crap thrown up against the wall to see what sticks and so somebody can claim they were right. Nobody got the Chizik hire right and very few "insiders" saw the Gus Bus headed to Auburn. But we'll eventually hire somebody and again, nobody will know the real story behind how he got the job.
Here's the biggest problem for me. They locked themselves into a $21 million buyout to get rid of a coach with no plan in place. As I said earlier, that Air Petrino 747 should have already made that round trip and wrapped up a new coach long before that decision was made. And here we are 8 days after Gus' firing being thought of as a laughing stock again.
By failing to have a plan, we've opened ourselves up to ridicule, much of which is warranted because the even bigger failure is not having any leadership. We appear completely dysfunctional and unfortunately, that may be just the case. No one at Auburn is out in front of this thing and it looks like....again...that there's division between those who are supposed to be in charge, and those who want to be.
As I said at the start, I don't believe 90% of the stuff being reported. However, the picture being painted about recent events looks like this:
*We paid a man $21 million to leave. A man with the best record in the SEC against the current measuring stick for all coaches. WTF is Auburn thinking.
*Auburn formed a search committee. No, they hired a search firm out of Atlanta to help find a coach. No, it's actually a couple of boosters who will make the decision, but they're in totally different camps themselves. Stupid, dysfunctional Auburn.
*Mario Cristobal was their number one target, but he turned them down.
*Kevin Steele now appears to be the man. Why? Well, because according to "sources", Bobby Lowder and others have been planning this coup for the last three years to get Gus out and put Steele in his place. But now the Auburn fan base has started a #notsteele or #fucksteele or #anybodybutsteel go fund me page or some shit. So Steele's out....unless he's not.
*Billy Napier is now the leading candidate, but wait, he's staying at Louisiana. Sarkisian will interview at Auburn, but wait, no he's not. Hey Paaawwwwwl, all these here coaches is turning Awbren down. How many we up to Paaaawwwl?
*Bill Clark is now the leading candidate.....
Good God I said this in three sentences. Finebaum, no leadership, media meddling, laughing stock.
And nobody is out of the running for this kind of money.
Not even the most vehement deniers.
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Good God I said this in three sentences. Finebaum, no leadership, media meddling, laughing stock.
And nobody is out of the running for this kind of money.
Not even the most vehement deniers.
Damn it, people like reading my takes. I have a huge brain and know stuff. And people. And I have an 11 pound dog named Gus that my wife named after some mouse in the Cinderella story. It was her Christmas present last year so she could name it anything she wanted. I was against it but thought better of making my opinion known. He's a cute little fella and I call him Gus Gus in a really weird voice. You know how you talk to your dog in the voice you think they'd have if dogs could talk. But they can't.
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Damn it, people like reading my takes. I have a huge brain and know stuff. And people. And I have an 11 pound dog named Gus that my wife named after some mouse in the Cinderella story. It was her Christmas present last year so she could name it anything she wanted. I was against it but thought better of making my opinion known. He's a cute little fella and I call him Gus Gus in a really weird voice. You know how you talk to your dog in the voice you think they'd have if dogs could talk. But they can't.
Would have liked this were it possible.
BTW Publix has Czech made Pilsner Urquell. Some smooth goodness at 4.4.
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Damn it, people like reading my takes. I have a huge brain and know stuff. And people. And I have an 11 pound dog named Gus that my wife named after some mouse in the Cinderella story. It was her Christmas present last year so she could name it anything she wanted. I was against it but thought better of making my opinion known. He's a cute little fella and I call him Gus Gus in a really weird voice. You know how you talk to your dog in the voice you think they'd have if dogs could talk. But they can't.
I don’t talk to my dog like a queer.
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I don’t talk to my dog like a queer.
That's a surprise.
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Damn it, people like reading my takes. I have a huge brain and know stuff. And people. And I have an 11 pound dog named Gus that my wife named after some mouse in the Cinderella story. It was her Christmas present last year so she could name it anything she wanted. I was against it but thought better of making my opinion known. He's a cute little fella and I call him Gus Gus in a really weird voice. You know how you talk to your dog in the voice you think they'd have if dogs could talk. But they can't.
My daughter has a bearded dragon she named Gus after the character on Psych. Every time I see it, I imagine it wearing a sweater vest.
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Damn it, people like reading my takes. I have a huge brain and know stuff. And people. And I have an 11 pound dog named Gus that my wife named after some mouse in the Cinderella story. It was her Christmas present last year so she could name it anything she wanted. I was against it but thought better of making my opinion known. He's a cute little fella and I call him Gus Gus in a really weird voice. You know how you talk to your dog in the voice you think they'd have if dogs could talk. But they can't.
Does little Gus Gus view the film?
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Live look at a member of the Auburn board discussing the vacant head coaching spot with Rush Probst.
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That's a surprise.
Why would that...hey. Just what are you getting at?
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Does little Gus Gus view the film?
He’s had a good week of practice.
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Live look at the Malzahn household as the AU administration shits the bed.
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I think I’ll just go watch porn until this is over.
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I think I’ll just go watch porn until this is over.
It won’t be over in 2 minutes.
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It won’t be over in 2 minutes.
LIKE
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Geez is Rush Propst still available?
There are high schools that can conduct a better search than this clown show at Auburn.
Been turned down by broccoli and cheese...and there's no cheese!
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I’m not one to boast but my family has invested generations of money into this university, so I care deeply about how it fairs financially. As a matter of fact, not that it matters, but our name is on buildings. It is the wall of bathroom stalls in the Haley Center.
I may not be on shark tank but I’ve been in business long enough to know that how much money that you spend on something is not necessarily indicative of your return.
These stupid ass motherfuckers that think getting into a bidding war for the fucking flavor of the month need to put up their own money. And lose it fucking all. Dumbass fucks.
AU may be a clown show search but news flash. When someone puts up 20 mil to buy a motherfucker out, they usually want to name the new guy. Surprise!
And please, know that just because Auburn is a “top school “ don’t be fooled into thinking coaches are fighting to come here. It is “THE†top school to get your ass fired if you don’t win quick and mind the donors.
My God some people are stupid.
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I’m not one to boast but my family has invested generations of money into this university, so I care deeply about how it fairs financially. As a matter of fact, not that it matters, but our name is on buildings. It is the wall of bathroom stalls in the Haley Center.
I may not be on shark tank but I’ve been in business long enough to know that how much money that you spend on something is not necessarily indicative of your return.
These stupid ass motherfuckers that think getting into a bidding war for the fucking flavor of the month need to put up their own money. And lose it fucking all. Dumbass fucks.
AU may be a clown show search but news flash. When someone puts up 20 mil to buy a motherfucker out, they usually want to name the new guy. Surprise!
And please, know that just because Auburn is a “top school “ don’t be fooled into thinking coaches are fighting to come here. It is “THE†top school to get your ass fired if you don’t win quick and mind the donors.
My God some people are stupid.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well, since the last thing you posted. Get your ass fired quick? I'm already in the F-150 headed your way because I want some of what you're smoking. And after I kick your ass and take it from you, I'll also remind you that Auburn gave a coach averaging 4-6 losses a year, a SEVEN year extension at SEVEN MILLION a year and a buyout that would make Lebron James jealous.
Geez, it's like you're drain bamaged or something.
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Here's how I see it. Not one of us knew that Gus what getting the can before it happened. Therefore, nobody has any inside track on the way things are going. And I mean it when I say, who in the world gives any care to what that pecker with ears, PF, has to say on the matter??
IMO, Auburn didn't take a pre-firing flight because of the criticism it got the last time they did it. They surely didn't want to be labeled in that way again.
So here we are being turned down by Crystal meth out west...who cares? Turned down by a cajun...who cares? Neither one of those made me warm in the britches. And unless we get Stoops or Myer (BIG HIRES), no one will. On top of that, it wouldn't be wise financially to go after a big money hire. They are already handing enough out as it is.
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LIKE
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Terry Bowden's available?
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Terry Bowden's available?
Brandon Marcello is reporting he already turned us down.
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Terry Bowden's available?
Really hope that members of the BOT aren't members of the X.
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Really hope that members of the BOT aren't members of the X.
I have always wondered if Vlad isn't really Jimmy Rane.
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I have always wondered if Vlad isn't really Jimmy Rane.
This is who is heading up our coaching search.
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Report: Bill Clark no longer candidate for Auburn head coaching job
https://auburnwire.usatoday.com/2020/12/21/report-bill-clark-no-longer-candidate-for-auburn-head-coaching-job/ (https://auburnwire.usatoday.com/2020/12/21/report-bill-clark-no-longer-candidate-for-auburn-head-coaching-job/)
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Venables also just told us no thanks.
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The lack of leadership at this program is crippling.
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The lack of leadership at this program is crippling.
It's really going to be awesome with AG tells Auburn to fuck off, and we hire Tim Jackson as our new AD.
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It's really going to be awesome with AG tells Auburn to fuck off, and we hire Tim Jackson as our new AD.
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As I said earlier, I don't believe 90% of the crap that comes out from all these supposed insiders. More to the point, it's the way it's portrayed. Venables turned us down. Really? When was he interviewed? Did he even want to interview for a HC job? He's 50 and has been an assistant his whole career. He's turned down HC jobs before. Plus, he has two sons both playing for Clemson on the defense. But if you believe all these insiders, it looks like Auburn spends every day going:
How about you? You want the job? No? What about you? No? Hey you, you want to be our coach? No? Hey kid, you got any coaching experience?
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As I said earlier, I don't believe 90% of the crap that comes out from all these supposed insiders. More to the point, it's the way it's portrayed. Venables turned us down. Really? When was he interviewed? Did he even want to interview for a HC job? He's 50 and has been an assistant his whole career. He's turned down HC jobs before. Plus, he has two sons both playing for Clemson on the defense. But if you believe all these insiders, it looks like Auburn spends every day going:
How about you? You want the job? No? What about you? No? Hey you, you want to be our coach? No? Hey kid, you got any coaching experience?
I guess I’ll take it but I don’t like the idea of having to service Big Jimmy. I’m not happy about it, I just want that known.
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I thought this was some kind of key lime desert. Yummy.
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The lack of leadership at this program is crippling.
The last couple of years Gus had me boarding the "I don't give a fuck train" , Auburns administration has now moved me into first class and I have left the station.
Never thought I would say this, I am tried of being an Auburn fan.
Just got back from Mexico, I noticed that I didn't even pack one Auburn shirt, hat or anything.
Golf courses in Cabo were spectacular.
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This is who is heading up our coaching search.
(https://i.imgur.com/PKlwVJh.png)
But he saved that woman's house from termites that time.
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Never thought I would say this, I am tried of being an Auburn fan.
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The AUpathy set in a couple of years ago. Now it has grown to utter disdain toward the entire group of "leaders" in Auburn.
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The AUpathy set in a couple of years ago. Now it has grown to utter disdain toward the entire group of "leaders" in Auburn.
The feeling is so completely unfathomable to me. I've lived and died on that hill for many, many years.
I've lived through worse. The Brunt years were worse than this to me, really, because we were barely competitive for almost a decade. Knowing at the start of every single season that we had no chance was numbing, demoralizing, soul crushing. But I never gave up hope. Wore my gear proudly. Held my head high. I believed in who and what we said we were.
I saw that begin to change with Jacobs. Maybe it's everything and everywhere, but I've said this a thousand times now and I mean it. I didn't quit on Auburn. It quit on me. It stopped BEING the things we said we were and we started just saying it like it meant something. At some point action became lip service and it lost me.
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When they hire someone, I wish they’d let them do their job. Give some feedback and wishes, sure, but stay out of the way.
When it’s time to review, then you either fire their ass or try to keep them. Our AD’s have been yes men since I can remember, which was Housel. Snags and Kaos can tell us about how it was when Coach Heisman was here but I’d bet the same.
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The last couple of years Gus had me boarding the "I don't give a fuck train" , Auburns administration has now moved me into first class and I have left the station.
Never thought I would say this, I am tried of being an Auburn fan.
Just got back from Mexico, I noticed that I didn't even pack one Auburn shirt, hat or anything.
Golf courses in Cabo were spectacular.
I’m impressed that you have any attire that has Auburn on it, in Mexican.
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When they hire someone, I wish they’d let them do their job. Give some feedback and wishes, sure, but stay out of the way.
When it’s time to review, then you either fire their ass or try to keep them. Our AD’s have been yes men since I can remember, which was Housel. Snags and Kaos can tell us about how it was when Coach Heisman was here but I’d bet the same.
Garner could have minded the store. But hell no. Some dark forces seem to have hijacked the search and Steele is now an obstacle. And should Steele leave he won't just go away without the backbiting comments and hurt feelings.
It's like any prospective head coach can't just bring his own people in and set up shop.
Oh no.
They have to first perform a full-on exorcism, learn to live with the demon or just make him a ready made integral part of the team.
Nobody wants to deal with that shit, not even a fledgling.
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Garner could have minded the store. But hell no. Some dark forces seem to have hijacked the search and Steele is now an obstacle. And should Steele leave he won't just go away without the backbiting comments and hurt feelings.
It's like any prospective head coach can't just bring his own people in and set up shop.
Oh no.
They have to first perform a full-on exorcism, learn to live with the demon or just make him a ready made integral part of the team.
Nobody wants to deal with that shit, not even a fledgling.
^^^This^^^
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^^^This^^^
Can you even form your own opinion? You just have to follow along like a little sheep.
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Can you even form your own opinion? You just have to follow along like a little sheep.
I have learned through attempting to read your posts (at least a few), that it’s important to be succinct.
That means short. Like your dick.
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I know I have talked a lot of shit on here but at least I know when to not try to be funny. And this is one of those times.
mods, please put an end to this stupid shit. Now.
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No concern. Vlad have coach search software fix. Gerry DiNardo is a done.
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No concern. Vlad have coach search software fix. Gerry DiNardo is a done.
Wait, you haven't even interviewed Les Miles yet.
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I’m impressed that you have any attire that has Auburn on it, in Mexican.
You know how they print up two shirts for the Super Bowl and ship the losing ones to shit hole countries.
Auburn shirts, hats every where in Mexico, and third world countries.
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You know how they print up two shirts for the Super Bowl and ship the losing ones to shit hole countries.
Auburn shirts, hats every where in Mexico, and third world countries.
Aguila de Guerra odio Dallas
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Wait, you haven't even interviewed Les Miles yet.
No list is complete without the name of Dick Sheridan.
He is or was a Finebaum fav.
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https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/auburn-expected-to-hire-boise-states-bryan-harsin.html?outputType=amp (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/auburn-expected-to-hire-boise-states-bryan-harsin.html?outputType=amp)
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https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/auburn-expected-to-hire-boise-states-bryan-harsin.html?outputType=amp (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/auburn-expected-to-hire-boise-states-bryan-harsin.html?outputType=amp)
It’s a very smart hire. 250k buyout. Give him a year or two to see what he can do and if he doesn’t work out, then go after Sylvester Croom.
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It’s a very smart hire. 250k buyout. Give him a year or two to see what he can do and if he doesn’t work out, then go after Sylvester Croom.
I have no idea how Harsin will do here in the deep south but I like the hire if for no other reason than it is against the grain, unAuburnlike almost out of left field.
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I have no idea how Harsin will do here in the deep south but I like the hire if for no other reason than it is against the grain, unAuburnlike almost out of left field.
It appears that they may have let Green actually do his job. Appears, I say.
if so, I’m impressed with yeller feller. And with Green. He did pretty damn good for a black.
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It appears that they may have let Green actually do his job. Appears, I say.
if so, I’m impressed with yeller feller. And with Green. He did pretty damn good for a black.
Harsin might suck!
But right now it feels like Auburn has a future instead of a sentencing which is what the media wanted for us with the constant denigrating. Nobody can say we told you so because nobody knows what to expect out of this guy.
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Harsin might suck!
But right now it feels like Auburn has a future instead of a sentencing which is what the media wanted for us with the constant denigrating. Nobody can say we told you so because nobody knows what to expect out of this guy.
It makes a lot of sense and I’m with you that it’s very un-auburn. I give AG a lot of credit. Impressive work.
Don’t believe for a second all of the guys that claimed to have been offered, were actually offered. Nor, that this was our first choice.
The old removed my name from consideration translation is, “I knew they weren’t hiring my ass, so I had to say something “. Jimmy Sexton knows.
I understand he’s hard. Snags will like that.
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I don't hate it.
If I have one concern, it's that his resume is an assload of Boise. I've spent a lot of time there and it's really more like a different planet. Nothing like this area at all. There's going to be an acclimation period.
Can he recruit in the SEC? No idea. He's going to have to hit the ground running, though.
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I don't hate it.
If I have one concern, it's that his resume is an assload of Boise. I've spent a lot of time there and it's really more like a different planet. Nothing like this area at all. There's going to be an acclimation period.
Can he recruit in the SEC? No idea. He's going to have to hit the ground running, though.
Yeah he's in for some culture shock in places like Bessemer and Peachtree City.
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I don't hate it.
If I have one concern, it's that his resume is an assload of Boise. I've spent a lot of time there and it's really more like a different planet. Nothing like this area at all. There's going to be an acclimation period.
Can he recruit in the SEC? No idea. He's going to have to hit the ground running, though.
I’m not looking forward to the blue field. But we will get used to it.
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I’m not looking forward to the blue field. But we will get used to it.
As long as the jerseys are orange. I'm good.
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I don't hate it.
If I have one concern, it's that his resume is an assload of Boise. I've spent a lot of time there and it's really more like a different planet. Nothing like this area at all. There's going to be an acclimation period.
Can he recruit in the SEC? No idea. He's going to have to hit the ground running, though.
Been in that area a few times myself. And beyond the difference of the landscape and demographics there is the difference between recruiting a prospect and having to compete for them on a scale he's likely only heard of and never witnessed.
I'm sure he's left homes feeling pretty good about his chances in Idaho whereas here you can think you have a kid locked-in only to have Clemson, Georgia or Alabama steal him away at the eleventh hour as we know all too well.
Gonna get baptized by fire.
Here's hoping this is where his ability to develop talent can overcome some of the cutthroat practices that he will experience in the SEC.
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As long as the jerseys are orange. I'm good.
Dear God please spare us the orange tops. Don't mind the Notre Dame greenies because it's another program but love our traditional uniforms.
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I’m not looking forward to the blue field. But we will get used to it.
The absolute ugliest is Eastern Washington's red turf. Hideous!
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I like the hire. Not what I wanted but it could have been a lot worse. I'll wait to see his staff before I get real judgey. On the surface though, I like it.
Does not sound like Gus at all. (https://youtu.be/YDRYxCrdJsY)
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It appears that they may have let Green actually do his job. Appears, I say.
if so, I’m impressed with yeller feller. And with Green. He did pretty damn good for a black.
https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/Jason-Caldwell-column-Thoughts-on-Harsin-and-Auburns-coaching-search-157654561/
I think this is a sane, honest take on the entire search which we were led to think was abandoned in a ditch three days after Gus was fired. And I have to admit that I had little if any confidence in Greene, Gogue or the BOT to do their due diligence and find the right head coach for the program.
I'm happy with the choice.
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I like the hire. Not what I wanted but it could have been a lot worse. I'll wait to see his staff before I get real judgey. On the surface though, I like it.
Does not sound like Gus at all. (https://youtu.be/YDRYxCrdJsY)
Here's to team development and no stupid slogans.
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This will only work if he is allowed to overhaul the staff and start over with new folks. I don’t wish for anyone to lose a job but this program doesn’t need old guard hanging around and undermining. It’s obvious several on the staff are into that. This being Auburn, I expect he’s been told to retain everyone and run the Dye/Sullivan playbook.
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This will only work if he is allowed to overhaul the staff and start over with new folks. I don’t wish for anyone to lose a job but this program doesn’t need old guard hanging around and undermining. It’s obvious several on the staff are into that. This being Auburn, I expect he’s been told to retain everyone and run the Dye/Sullivan playbook.
Agree the staff needs an overhaul. So who has to go?
My take is:
1) Kodi Burns -- Like the kid, but he needs to go be a GA somewhere. Maybe Troy.
2) Carnell - Love Carnell, too. Not qualified for the job he has.
3) Chad Fucking Morris -- obviously. Congratulations to all the sunshine pumpers. You were WRONG about that clown. Kaos was (again) right.
Can he come in and whack "Auburn guys" like Carnell and Kodi without facing significant resistance?
Does he keep Steele and Garner? I think it would be suicide if he did, but who knows. What about Travis and McGriff?
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Agree the staff needs an overhaul. So who has to go?
My take is:
1) Kodi Burns -- Like the kid, but he needs to go be a GA somewhere. Maybe Troy.
2) Carnell - Love Carnell, too. Not qualified for the job he has.
3) Chad Fucking Morris -- obviously. Congratulations to all the sunshine pumpers. You were WRONG about that clown. Kaos was (again) right.
Can he come in and whack "Auburn guys" like Carnell and Kodi without facing significant resistance?
Does he keep Steele and Garner? I think it would be suicide if he did, but who knows. What about Travis and McGriff?
why is it that most of the guys you want fired are black?
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Agree the staff needs an overhaul. So who has to go?
My take is:
1) Kodi Burns -- Like the kid, but he needs to go be a GA somewhere. Maybe Troy.
2) Carnell - Love Carnell, too. Not qualified for the job he has.
3) Chad Fucking Morris -- obviously. Congratulations to all the sunshine pumpers. You were WRONG about that clown. Kaos was (again) right.
Can he come in and whack "Auburn guys" like Carnell and Kodi without facing significant resistance?
Does he keep Steele and Garner? I think it would be suicide if he did, but who knows. What about Travis and McGriff?
Travis. I love the guy. He’s got a spirit about him. And linebacker play improved generally overall with him as coach. Everyone else can take a fuckin hike. Especially kodi, garner and Steele. All Grifters.
from what I’ve read from both jay g, b matthews and a few others (cubelic) - harsin will have full autonomy from Allen Greene and jay Gogue to run this program and hire his own staff.....period. This was all Allen Greene’s hire done somewhat covertly around the committee. I like it. I would never want to force harsin to retain a coach but I’d really like him to consider Travis for several reasons.
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https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/Jason-Caldwell-column-Thoughts-on-Harsin-and-Auburns-coaching-search-157654561/
I think this is a sane, honest take on the entire search which we were led to think was abandoned in a ditch three days after Gus was fired. And I have to admit that I had little if any confidence in Greene, Gogue or the BOT to do their due diligence and find the right head coach for the program.
I'm happy with the choice.
Thank you for the comments. I think I’m sane and honest, too. It’s always nice to get affirmations. I’ve always liked you as well.
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Travis. I love the guy. He’s got a spirit about him. And linebacker play improved generally overall with him as coach. Everyone else can take a fudgein hike. Especially kodi, garner and Steele. All Grifters.
from what I’ve read from both jay g, b matthews and a few others (cubelic) - harsin will have full autonomy from Allen Greene and jay Gogue to run this program and hire his own staff.....period. This was all Allen Greene’s hire done somewhat covertly around the committee. I like it. I would never want to force harsin to retain a coach but I’d really like him to consider Travis for several reasons.
That is great news, if true. I too would love to see T-Will retained, but will trust Coarch Harsin's judgement there. The rest of the bunch, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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I just perused a Broncos board to get a sense of their reaction. There are the obligatory "thank God" and "I'll drive him to the airport" and "Christmas came early" reactions. Most think he'll do well, though.
The one comment that struck me most?
Will emulate Dabo but with Saban's personality. That's what they're getting. Except at Auburn he'll actually be able to get the 5* guys he pursued but Boise couldn't pull.
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I just perused a Broncos board to get a sense of their reaction. There are the obligatory "thank God" and "I'll drive him to the airport" and "Christmas came early" reactions. Most think he'll do well, though.
The one comment that struck me most?
Will emulate Dabo but with Saban's personality. That's what they're getting. Except at Auburn he'll actually be able to get the 5* guys he pursued but Boise couldn't pull.
I sure hope so because ULM just landed Terry Bowden. I think he would’ve seriously considered coming home.
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So the word is, it was as we suspected. Alan Greene went rogue and wasn’t anybody’s yes man.
That makes me proud of the guy and that’s a first for any AU AD. It could still end up costing him his job if the hire flops but he did his job despite all of the noise. And although I was ready for a change, I think it’s more evident that Gus didn’t have the support that he should have from within the team and otherwise. Not imo, anyway. Too many factions pulling different ways.
Regardless, he had his chance and that ship sailed. Good luck to him and enjoy the 21 mil.
Coach Haskins has my full support and I believe he won’t have any strings tied to him, which is great. We can thank Alan Greene for that.
I am more and more impressed by greene
Edit: not bgreen the AD Greene. Add an e.
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What up bitches?
Y'all better be FUCKING PUMPED for this hire cause Greene knocked it out of the damn park. I have never been this excited about an Auburn Coach outside of Bruce Pearl. I like Harsin better than any of the other names that were even mentioned/ we supposedly whiffed on. Dude may fall flat on his face, but I am 100% (like warbloggle in) on this hire.
He checks all the boxes. Young, winner, offensive-minded, dude can coach, blue-collar, exQB. Needs to surround himself with coaches that know the lay of the land but I don't think recruiting is going to be an issue.
BTW...I'mma just leave this here.
4 years ago:
1. Kyle Wittingham
2. Bryan Harsin
3. Jeff Brohm
4. Kaos with Prowler at OC
3 years ago:
Not true Harsin would be a good hire. Out of that list he would be the only one I would want.
2 years ago:
See I like the name Bryan Harsin
Unfortunately the next Head Coach at Auburn after Gus will be....
Chip Lindsey
WAR FUCKING EAGLE MOTHER FUCKERS!
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What up bitches?
Y'all better be FUCKING PUMPED for this hire cause Greene knocked it out of the damn park. I have never been this excited about an Auburn Coach outside of Bruce Pearl. I like Harsin better than any of the other names that were even mentioned/ we supposedly whiffed on. Dude may fall flat on his face, but I am 100% (like warbloggle in) on this hire.
He checks all the boxes. Young, winner, offensive-minded, dude can coach, blue-collar, exQB. Needs to surround himself with coaches that know the lay of the land but I don't think recruiting is going to be an issue.
BTW...I'mma just leave this here.
4 years ago:
3 years ago:
2 years ago:
WAR FUCKING EAGLE MOTHER FUCKERS!
WTF? Russians. That fucking Trump again.
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What up bitches?
Y'all better be fudgeING PUMPED for this hire cause Greene knocked it out of the damn park. I have never been this excited about an Auburn Coach outside of Bruce Pearl. I like Harsin better than any of the other names that were even mentioned/ we supposedly whiffed on. Dude may fall flat on his face, but I am 100% (like warbloggle in) on this hire.
He checks all the boxes. Young, winner, offensive-minded, dude can coach, blue-collar, exQB. Needs to surround himself with coaches that know the lay of the land but I don't think recruiting is going to be an issue.
BTW...I'mma just leave this here.
4 years ago:
3 years ago:
2 years ago:
WAR fudgeING EAGLE MOTHER fudgeERS!
I'd love to "Like" this post, but I can't.
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I wish I could like this hire but the damn button is broken.
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Solid hire and I am glad to hear Greene actually acted like the AD we hired him to be rather than be a Jay Jacobs-esque yes man. He will have to assemble a staff with elite recruiters but I think he is smart enough to realize that.
To sum it up, he ain't never been nothin' but a winner. Hoping that we don't screw that up for him.
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What up bitches?
Y'all better be FUCKING PUMPED for this hire cause Greene knocked it out of the damn park. I have never been this excited about an Auburn Coach outside of Bruce Pearl. I like Harsin better than any of the other names that were even mentioned/ we supposedly whiffed on. Dude may fall flat on his face, but I am 100% (like warbloggle in) on this hire.
He checks all the boxes. Young, winner, offensive-minded, dude can coach, blue-collar, exQB. Needs to surround himself with coaches that know the lay of the land but I don't think recruiting is going to be an issue.
BTW...I'mma just leave this here.
4 years ago:
3 years ago:
2 years ago:
WAR FUCKING EAGLE MOTHER FUCKERS!
So what you’re saying is your prediction of Chip Lindsey was a big fail. Boom MFrs
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Edit: not bgreen the AD Greene. Add an e.
jes' wait a minute WT
You know you're lyin' I've been hav'n a e on the end of mine all of my life
Don't you lump me in with all those low lives that spell it like the color....How dare you!!
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jes' wait a minute WT
You know you're lyin' I've been hav'n a e on the end of mine all of my life
Don't you lump me in with all those low lives that spell it like the color....How dare you!!
Dammit! My bad. I stand corrected.
Are you related?
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Does anyone know when the introductory presser for coach Haskins will take place?
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Does anyone know when the introductory presser for coach Haskins will take place?
Not sure but I hear he's had a good week of practice and he will be ready come game time.
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Does anyone know when the introductory presser for coach Haskins will take place?
Godfather should have the skinny on the presser. After all he was the prophet the BOT should have followed all along.
I had some spirits saved for a Trump victory.
Guess I crack it open for the Harsin hire instead.
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So what you’re saying is your prediction of Chip Lindsey was a big fail. Boom MFrs
He has a 67% success rate on all of his perdictions. Give the dude some credit and keep after him about that like button.
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I’m hearing Harsin to Arkansas.
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I just perused a Broncos board to get a sense of their reaction. There are the obligatory "thank God" and "I'll drive him to the airport" and "Christmas came early" reactions. Most think he'll do well, though.
The one comment that struck me most?
Will emulate Dabo but with Saban's personality. That's what they're getting. Except at Auburn he'll actually be able to get the 5* guys he pursued but Boise couldn't pull.
Yes. He’s an intense guy that never really gelled with the folks there. They are a “nice†crowd. He is an asshole. Like Saban. His record is spectacular but at boise the personality matters as much if not more - than the coaching acumen. And that’s their big beef with him. As one of their beat writers put it - he was a power 5 alpha male coach at a group of 5 low key school with hardcore group of 5 fans. He honestly fits in better at auburn than he did boise.
And despite the personality conflict? Averaged almost 11 wins a year there. 3 conf championships and never lower than 2nd. Almost always first in conf in recruiting.
the big concern is recruiting the south East. Hire the right staff and it’s a non issue. Think: muschamp, mason, twill, dell mcgee - guys like that. And well, another sec school took a chance on a highly successful intense mountain west coach almost two decades ago with no sec recruiting ties: urban meyer.
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Yes. He’s an intense guy that never really gelled with the folks there. They are a “nice†crowd. He is an asshole. Like Saban. His record is spectacular but at boise the personality matters as much if not more - than the coaching acumen. And that’s their big beef with him. As one of their beat writers put it - he was a power 5 alpha male coach at a group of 5 low key school with hardcore group of 5 fans. He honestly fits in better at auburn than he did boise.
And despite the personality conflict? Averaged almost 11 wins a year there. 3 conf championships and never lower than 2nd. Almost always first in conf in recruiting.
the big concern is recruiting the south East. Hire the right staff and it’s a non issue. Think: muschamp, mason, twill, dell mcgee - guys like that. And well, another sec school took a chance on a highly successful intense mountain west coach almost two decades ago with no sec recruiting ties: urban meyer.
We want a winner even if its a heartless rotten bastard.
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And well, another sec school took a chance on a highly successful intense mountain west coach almost two decades ago with no sec recruiting ties: urban meyer.
And well this school took a chance on someone else who was from a Mountain West school four decades ago when we were in the death throws. I am hoping for the same or better results.
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And well this school took a chance on someone else who was from a Mountain West school four decades ago when we were in the death throws. I am hoping for the same or better results.
I thought Sonny Smith was from east Tennessee.
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I understand Haskle has his own version of the twirley bird. I cannot wait!
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I understand Haskle has his own version of the twirley bird. I cannot wait!
Harbin bringin the statute of liberty.
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I thought Sonny Smith was from east Tennessee.
You shut your dirty whorish mouth
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And well this school took a chance on someone else who was from a Mountain West school four decades ago when we were in the death throws. I am hoping for the same or better results.
While true - he had an assload of connections and sec exp.
the urban comparison is more to harsin in the media criticism of him having no sec recruiting connections. Neither did Meyer really other than a short stint at bowling green in Kentucky. That’s as close as he got. At least harsin was at Texas and ark st for a bit. I don’t think recruiting will be an issue.
back to your point - dye had been an asst in the sec. then hc at East Carolina and coming off a 6-5 campaign at Wyoming. Our fan base would melt down over that resume today if Hired. Yet a certain faction is bitching today over a guy who avged almost 11 wins a year 6 years running - because he’s perceived as “not niceâ€. I’ve literally seen people say “I miss Gus alreadyâ€. I swear I want to throat punch these people.
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You shut your dirty whorish mouth
What?
Sonny made us a respectable contender.
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While true - he had an assload of connections and sec exp.
the urban comparison is more to harsin in the media criticism of him having no sec recruiting connections. Neither did Meyer really other than a short stint at bowling green in Kentucky. That’s as close as he got. At least harsin was at Texas and ark st for a bit. I don’t think recruiting will be an issue.
back to your point - dye had been an asst in the sec. at East Carolina and coming off a 6-5 campaign at Wyoming. Our fan base would melt down over that resume today if Hired.
I recall not being too stoked about Dye. He took command at his opening presser, made some bold statements then proceeded to deliver on his promises.
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the urban comparison is more to harsin in the media criticism of him having no sec recruiting connections. Neither did Meyer really other than a short stint at bowling green in Kentucky.
I hope we don't give him da brain pain like Florida did Urban
And you are correct about Dye not being the same I was just struck this morning that the last time we went really off the reservation to hire someone was Dye forty years ago. Everyone else since then has been expected or already had ties that was expected.
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I recall not being too stoked about Dye. He took command at his opening presser, made some bold statements then proceeded to deliver on his promises.
I’d love for you and kaos to tell us about what it was like when Mike Donahue was hired.
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I’d love for you and kaos to tell us about what it was like when Mike Donahue was hired.
Coach Donahue didn't waste his time on tomfoolery. He believed the boys would succeed through hard work, discipline and camaraderie.
He even gave them water when it was absolutely necessary.
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Men, to be honest, I don't know much of anything about Harsin but, the more I see of what he's done, the more I like the hire. I'm stoked and all in as should every AU fan. And for those wishing Gus was still with us, go hop on his bus as it leaves town. We don't need those fans!!
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He even gave them water when it was absolutely necessary.
You laugh. But Mike Dubose was the coach at my high school just as I was about to enter high school. Water was definitely withheld! Water was a weakness back then.
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Coach Donahue didn't waste his time on tomfoolery. He believed the boys would succeed through hard work, discipline and camaraderie.
He even gave them water when it was absolutely necessary.
Said water was dispensed via a hose.
Needing water when I played (baseball) in high school was a sign of weakness. Water? Take a salt pill you whiny bitch.
We had one 15 minute water break in the middle of a 2.5-3 hour practice. There was a hose attached to some metal thing with holes drilled in it. When the hose was turned on, you had to get in there and jostle for what was coming out. At the end of the break, the spigot was turned off.
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Yeah, the water thing was a bit different back then. At Jeff Davis there was one hose at the practice field. Everybody line up and lap up as much as you can.
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It's a good thing knowing that we all played a small part in water conservation through our athletic endeavors.
And we had a kid almost clock out for ingesting 6 salt tablets before practice...you know...more always being better.
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https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/inside-the-battle-over-auburns-coaching-search.html (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/inside-the-battle-over-auburns-coaching-search.html)
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https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/inside-the-battle-over-auburns-coaching-search.html (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2020/12/inside-the-battle-over-auburns-coaching-search.html)
Thx for posting this.
I'm excited for a change and for all of us that thought we were going to get coal again, not that I'm against it.
Happy for Auburn, Greene, Gogue and everyone involved.
Also pleased that Harsin gets the autonomy to run his own show.
We have a future.
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Yeah, the water thing was a bit different back then. At Jeff Davis there was one hose at the practice field. Everybody line up and lap up as much as you can.
I should see coach Lee in the next week. I'll let him know that you remember his water breaks fondly.
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Thx for posting this.
I'm excited for a change and for all of us that thought we were going to get coal again, not that I'm against it.
Happy for Auburn, Greene, Gogue and everyone involved.
Also pleased that Harsin gets the autonomy to run his own show.
We have a future.
And it turns out that redneck goob gump from prattville was never a candidate, never Interviewed and never offered.
Even though he considered himself one by trying to contact Auburn about the job only to be told no thanks. f that bamtard.
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And it turns out that redneck goob gump from prattville was never a candidate, never Interviewed and never offered.
Even though he considered himself one by trying to contact Auburn about the job only to be told no thanks. f that bamtard.
I was totally wrong about this idiot. I thought he had a good resume and maybe deserve a chance. Wrong. He’s a redneck moron.
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Yeah, the water thing was a bit different back then. At Jeff Davis there was one hose at the practice field. Everybody line up and lap up as much as you can.
In Opelika we got to take salt pill with our water. Then proceed to get our ass beat 64-7 by Jeff Davis that Friday night.
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I should see coach Lee in the next week. I'll let him know that you remember his water breaks fondly.
I was a baseball guy. Same set up though. Charles hated me.
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I was a baseball guy. Same set up though. Charles hated me.
I thought you held a mean clipboard in football.
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I thought you held a mean clipboard in football.
One of the best to ever do it at JD. Plus, I did it from the stands which made it even more spectacular.
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One of the best to ever do it at JD. Plus, I did it from the stands which made it even more spectacular.
??? So, you lied about all of that sideline time?
And here I was thinking you were a two sport star. What a crock of shit. I will never believe anything else you ever say, you lying sack of goat dung.
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??? So, you lied about all of that sideline time?
And here I was thinking you were a two sport star. What a crock of shit. I will never believe anything else you ever say, you lying sack of goat dung.
Dayum. You a hard man WT. You done dissed your mentor Snags and your coaching hero Bill Clark in the same morning. Covid lockdown getting to you?
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Dayum. You a hard man WT. You done dissed your mentor Snags and your coaching hero Bill Clark in the same morning. Covid lockdown getting to you?
Both are on the shit list, jmar. But just to clarify, Snags is no “mentor†to me. He is a lot of other things. But no mentor.
And to think we toasted to bill Clark for so long. Forget that lying zero. He didn’t even have an interview and HE is the one that called AU to ask about the job. And he has the gall to pretend like he was offered.
I am embarrassed that I was impressed with the way he held UAB together. He did well with that but he’s no P5 coach with rinky dink actions like that. He should have let Jimmy Sexton be his agent and he would’ve done a better job feigning interest but that was weak. Gouge blew his bs away.
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And it turns out that redneck goob gump from prattville was never a candidate, never Interviewed and never offered.
Even though he considered himself one by trying to contact Auburn about the job only to be told no thanks. f that bamtard.
Yeah it turns out he's a decent second tier coach trying to run his own ad campaign.
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Both are on the shit list, jmar. But just to clarify, Snags is no “mentor†to me. He is a lot of other things. But no mentor.
And to think we toasted to bill Clark for so long. Forget that lying zero. He didn’t even have an interview and HE is the one that called AU to ask about the job. And he has the gall to pretend like he was offered.
I am embarrassed that I was impressed with the way he held UAB together. He did well with that but he’s no P5 coach with rinky dink actions like that. He should have let Jimmy Sexton be his agent and he would’ve done a better job feigning interest but that was weak. Gouge blew his bs away.
I especially like the fact that you've never got our new head coaches name right. I've seen Haskins, Harden and Harpoon among others. Pretty cool.
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I especially like the fact that you've never got our new head coaches name right. I've seen Haskins, Harden and Harpoon among others. Pretty cool.
I am surprised that so many Auburn people know so little of Harkle. Shows their football ignorance.
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Obviously, Harbert has a tall task in front of him, if for no other reason, the lack of quality linemen on both sides of the ball. And of course, the loss of Bill Taylor. But here's why everybody except the usual suspects of Clemson and Ohio State have a tall task. Listening to sports talk this morning and surprise, surprise...the #1 running back in the nation flipped from Oklahoma and committed to the Tahd. If memory serves, and many times it doesn't, that gives them 8 five star recruits.
And according to this report, this RB is out of Texas, which gives the Crapstoners the #1 Quarterback from Texas, along with the #1 Offensive Tackle, the #1 Center, the #1 Wide Receiver and #1 Linebacker from that state according to 247.
So the really rich just keep getting richer and the rest of us will try and play for a really good season. Respectable. On a side note, how do you think Texas fans feel about Bama coming in and taking every one of their top recruits right out from under Tom Herman's nose. How does this happen? Hmmm....
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Obviously, Harbert has a tall task in front of him, if for no other reason, the lack of quality linemen on both sides of the ball. And of course, the loss of Bill Taylor. But here's why everybody except the usual suspects of Clemson and Ohio State have a tall task. Listening to sports talk this morning and surprise, surprise...the #1 running back in the nation flipped from Oklahoma and committed to the Tahd. If memory serves, and many times it doesn't, that gives them 8 five star recruits.
And according to this report, this RB is out of Texas, which gives the Crapstoners the #1 Quarterback from Texas, along with the #1 Offensive Tackle, the #1 Center, the #1 Wide Receiver and #1 Linebacker from that state according to 247.
So the really rich just keep getting richer and the rest of us will try and play for a really good season. Respectable. On a side note, how do you think Texas fans feel about Bama coming in and taking every one of their top recruits right out from under Tom Herman's nose. How does this happen? Hmmm....
It's got to end. Somehow.
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It's got to end. Somehow.
Don't know how that's possible when the NCAA turns a blind eye to everything at certain schools. In the piece I posted about Florida, they got "popped" for illegal contact with a recruit in Seattle. The NCAA actually investigated, watched surveillance and took action. Now, the penalties didn't amount to more than a slap on the wrist, but Mullen now has a show cause hung on him. Texas A&M got zinged for the same thing by the NCAA. When it happens with Saban, they create a new bump rule.
When Yahoo Sports exposes rampant cheating at The U, the NCAA comes riding in, guns a blazin'. Unfortunately, they shot themselves in their own foot with those guns. When the same Yahoo Sports comes out with a report on illegal benefits to several players, including absolute documentation of over $30K in furniture, trips, rims etc. given to one, DJ Flucker, the NCAA says, "You know, poor guy slept in his car one night. We believe it's time to start paying these players." Begin the stipend program.
Tip of the iceberg. It's not going to end. The NCAA wants them on that wall. They need them on that wall.
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Here's part of the Yahoo Sports article from 2013. Yes, I know this is old news, but it points out the hypocrisy of the NCAA. Note the bolded and keep in mind that the only thing that arose out of this was the NCAA putting the stamp of approval on paying players.
Four former SEC football players and one current SEC player received illegal benefits before completing their college careers, according to records obtained through a Yahoo! Sports investigation (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html).
Former Alabama offensive tackle D.J. Fluker, former Tennessee quarterback Tyler Bray, former Mississippi State defensive tackle Fletcher Cox, former Mississippi State wide receiver Chad Bumphis and current Tennessee defensive end Maurice Couch were all implicated in the report stemming from financial and text message records belonging to former Alabama defensive end Luther Davis. Yahoo! Sports found that Davis acted as middleman between the NFL agent community, financial advisers and a few big-name college football stars.
From the report:
Davis declined to comment for this story. However, Yahoo Sports was able to authenticate text message records, Western Union fund transfers, banking statements, flight receipts and other financial material linking both Davis and the five college football players. Yahoo Sports also found that three NFL agents and three financial advisers engaged Davis in transactions totaling $45,550. The three agents were Andy Simms, Peter Schaffer and John Phillips. The financial advisers were Jason Jernigan, Mike Rowan and Hodge Brahmbhatt.
If the NCAA could prove that Davis helped filter benefits to eligible college football players following his own college career, that would violate NCAA Bylaw 12.3.1.2, which prohibits athletes from receiving benefits from agents or marketing representatives. That could have substantial impact on Alabama, as Fluker, who was a starting offensive tackle on the Crimson Tide's 2012 national championship team, could be retroactively ruled ineligible. Tennessee and Mississippi State are also currently on probation for previous NCAA infractions.