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More Observations From My Porch...
« on: May 29, 2009, 12:21:22 PM »
Shaking my fist at the world.

Not complaining...or maybe I am. I was reading Rangers post in the political forum about coaching baseball and kids today being softer and overall, sporting a higher degree of smartassitude.  As a man in his 40's..ish...or thereabouts, and a father of 2 (One graduated high school Friday and the other is 8...so I get to do it all over again) I've made the following observations in recent years about changing times and how differently kids are brought up as opposed to even a short 20-30 years ago.

As I said, my son is 8 and just yesterday, finished the second grade.  We just finished up baseball season, which I coached and which also took up no more than a few hours a week of his time.  Outside of the games and me working with him in the yard on hitting etc. I have him enrolled at one of these sports academies for baseball skillz one afternoon and a speed and agility class on Monday nights.  He enjoys all that but would easily opt for other things if given the chance.  The "Other things" he has available to him goes to the heart of the differences in kids and to a certain extent, young adults today.

Here's where I sound like everyone's father talking about the way things were and walking 5 miles to school every day...barefoot...up hill both ways...in the snow...and we liked it.  At my son's age, coming home from school (And yes, I either walked or rode my bike) the last place I wanted to be was inside the house. I could not put my books and school stuff down fast enough to get out the door.  Fortunately, there were about 7-8 kids within about a year or two of my age living on the same block and we all had the same mindset.  Get out of the house and get into anything our imaginations could dream up.  Typical of my childhood was:

Besides organized sports, we'd play the usual back yard football, basketball in the driveway til' we couldn't see at night.  I was probably the baddest mofo of a whiffle ball player anyone ever encountered.  Clearing the row of Azalea bushes was a home run.

Fixing up bicycles and jumping anything we could put a ramp on.

Stealing wood from some local construction site and building "Forts" in the back yard.

Launching water balloons at cars and passing school buses from behind the bushes at the edge of Lee Chancellor's yard. (We had an escape route that was fool proof...never got caught)

Exploring the huge drainage ditch at the end of the block.  Even got some old tire intertubes after it rained like a bitch one day and negotiated the rapids.

Sneaking over the neighbors wall and swimming in their pool every chance we got.

Riding our bikes almost daily to the 7-11 for the latest Spider Man, Hulk or any other new Marvel comic that may be out.  3 Muskateers and a Jungle Juice were standard parts of our diet as well.

Fighting.  Not a week would pass where a couple of us weren't throwing haymakers and wrestling to the death...only to be best friends again the very next day while stirring up fire ant beds, catching bumblebees in mason jars or trying to climb every tree in the neighborhood.

So, what are my son's preferences for entertainment?  UNFORTUNATELY, we don't live in a neighborhood with a ton of kids his age and we certainly aren't in a day and age where you let your kids just walk out and go find their friends...just be home by suppertime or you'll get the belt.  His options are things that didn't exist when I was growing up.  There were 4 channels you could pick up with the rabbit ears...ABC, NBC, CBS & Public Television.  Now, basic cable gives you about 75 channels to surf.  Computers in my day were big, wall-size monstrosities on TV with blinking lights and some reel to reel shit going on.  I don't need to go into what's available to people of all ages on teh intrawebs.  (Save the porn jokes) He's no different than anyone else, he can sit at the Dell for hours and be perfectly happy and completely entertained.  He has teh Wii's, Guitar Hero, Nintendo, Playstation and on and on and on.

We had Atari Pong.  Boop

There were no DVDs and Movie Gallery or Ipods or even cell phones.  Overall, technology simply didn't play a big part in my upbringing.  I would dare say that most 12 year olds are more technologically savy than I will ever be.  My son gets a new game, opens it up, plugs in all the wires and controllers and is working Level III or some shit in 15 minutes time.  I'm watching all of it going, "I don't get it".  I don't want to get it.  I had to be pulled kicking and screaming into Verizon just to upgrade from my 7 year old flip phone.  I could make calls...why do I want want more?  You people constantly talk Madden and NCAA 09' and Legions of Dungeon Doom and Gloom.  NCAA 74' for us was a little electric football field board with football player cutouts that you placed where you wanted and flicked the switch on the board while they rattled around.  Operation and Twister were the bomb.  Still are.

It's really hard for some of you to grasp a world without having "the world" at the press of a button.  It did actually exist a few short years ago.  Are my son and kids in general smarter and better able to face the technological challenges of that world in years to come?  Probably so.  Are they "softer" overall and lack many of the basic one on one communication skills?  Without a doubt.  Just like at this very moment, 90% of our interaction these days is typed.  We email.  We text.  We post.  Talking is done via Blackberry or Iphone.  If we actually meet, we need to get shit faced just so we'll have something to say.  Better to sit back to back and text each other.

Watching my son hit a line drive up the middle and come off the field grinning ear to ear is as they say...priceless.  Having to call him 6 times to come to supper because he's absolutely entranced like a zombie in front of the TV, Nintendo or computer..does nothing for me.  Can he program my Motorola Q9 better than I can?  I'll wager he can.  Can he throw a water balloon over a 10' hedge and hit a Plymouth Volare traveling 26 m.p.h.?  I think not.

I think I'll go out back to my tree fort and read the latest issue of Iron Man. 

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Re: More Observations From My Porch...
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 12:33:51 PM »
So, to sum it up for you:

Vandalism and thievery - good.

Technology - bad.

Gotcha.  I liked you better when you were a simple unfrozen caveman lawyer.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 12:46:41 PM »
So, to sum it up for you:

Vandalism and thievery - good.

Technology - bad.

Gotcha.  I liked you better when you were a simple unfrozen caveman lawyer.

I stole the comic books
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 12:47:25 PM »
If we actually meet, we need to get shit faced just so we'll have something to say.

If your ever in Dallas-   I'll buy.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 12:49:34 PM »
So, to sum it up for you:

Vandalism and thievery - good.

Technology - bad.

Gotcha.  I liked you better when you were a simple unfrozen caveman lawyer.

You touched on something here that kept going through my mind with each item I read from Birdman's diatribe.

Class b felony
class a felony
terrorist activity charges
etc.

I remember a lot of the same things but I would be put under the jail now for a lot of the stuff I did/made while growing up.

Pipe bombs come to mind as one example.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 12:55:56 PM »
You touched on something here that kept going through my mind with each item I read from Birdman's diatribe.

Class b felony
class a felony
terrorist activity charges
etc.

I remember a lot of the same things but I would be put under the jail now for a lot of the stuff I did/made while growing up.

Pipe bombs come to mind as one example.

The times they are a-changin' and Birdman is getting left behind.  Sad, really.
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You can keep a wooden stake in your trunk
On the off-chance that the fairy tales ain't bunk
And Imma keep a bottle of that funk
To get motel parking lot, balcony crunk.

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 12:58:17 PM »
This guy is about my age. I remember a lot of this stuff growing up.

http://vaiden.net/childhood_memories1.html
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 01:17:16 PM »
You touched on something here that kept going through my mind with each item I read from Birdman's diatribe.

Class b felony
class a felony
terrorist activity charges
etc.

I remember a lot of the same things but I would be put under the jail now for a lot of the stuff I did/made while growing up.

Pipe bombs come to mind as one example.

Whatever.  Water ballooning is clearly a Class C Misdemeanor.  I would have gotten Youthful Offender status anyway.

Hey, text me and we'll email lunch tomorrow.
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 01:27:20 PM »
All of the activities you mentioned were still abundant with my generation raised in the 90's.

My parents still live in the exact same neighborhood I lived in when I was in 5th grade, but you don't see kids riding bikes or playing flag football or driveway basketball anymore like we did.

We had Nintendo (hell SUPER Nintendo by 5th grade), and VHS movies, but there's just something generationally different about kids these days. They're a generation of pussies, basically. I remember when I was in High School and Taylor and I were YMCA daycamp councellors. Those kids we looked after were in like 5th and 6th grade and actually LIKED N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, etc. I'm thinking, what the fuck, when I was in 5th grade we were into Green Day, Offspring, Weezer, shit like that. I was getting into more underground punk and metal shit like the Misfits for example around this time. Also, for "movie day", I brought some of my favorites from when I was a kid. Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory, The Goonies, The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Movie, etc. These kids complained to their parents that I was showing them "R-rated movies".

And yeah, we played outside like it was no one's business.

I blame the parents of this fagged up generation more than anything. They're scared to death to let their kids outside because the 24-hour sensationalist news channels have them convinced there's a child rapist on every suburban street corner foaming at the mouth to abduct them. Look at their smooth, plastic playgrounds. We had rusty sharp-edged slides that you could easily contract tetanus from, and no one seemed to care.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 01:27:49 PM »
Hey, text me and we'll email lunch tomorrow.


Do you even try to keep up with the world anymore?
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009, 01:31:28 PM »

Do you even try to keep up with the world anymore?

Sure he does.  If by "keep up with the world" you mean sipping ghey lattes at Miss Lucille's Gossip Parlor.
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You can keep a wooden stake in your trunk
On the off-chance that the fairy tales ain't bunk
And Imma keep a bottle of that funk
To get motel parking lot, balcony crunk.

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009, 01:37:31 PM »
Pipe bombs come to mind as one example.
We were all about The Works and tin foil strips in Gatorade bottles. Fun times.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 01:49:32 PM »

Do you even try to keep up with the world anymore?

There's something besides the X??

Seriously, I don't think technology and all the things discussed are a bad thing.  However, as Chad mentioned, it's causing a different minset in the generation of kids coming up today.  I have kids. I know.  While I recognize it and try to steer my son towards more physical activities, he would MUCH rather just veg out with his joystick.  Now, I enjoy time with my joystick too but my arm gets so tired.

Chad also hit on another point for those that have kids.  Growing up, even at 8-9 years old, I walked out the door and my parents didn't care for shit where I went or who I was with.  They knew I was around the neighborhood, but they didn't have to worry about my picture winding up on the back of a milk carton.  
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2009, 01:56:18 PM »
but they didn't have to worry about my picture winding up on the back of a milk carton.  

That had more to do with milk companies not wanting to hurt their sales.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 02:00:08 PM »
That had more to do with milk companies not wanting to hurt their sales.

point taken and agreed upon
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2009, 03:20:43 PM »
There's something besides the X??

Seriously, I don't think technology and all the things discussed are a bad thing.  However, as Chad mentioned, it's causing a different minset in the generation of kids coming up today.  I have kids. I know.  While I recognize it and try to steer my son towards more physical activities, he would MUCH rather just veg out with his joystick.  Now, I enjoy time with my joystick too but my arm gets so tired.

Chad also hit on another point for those that have kids.  Growing up, even at 8-9 years old, I walked out the door and my parents didn't care for shit where I went or who I was with.  They knew I was around the neighborhood, but they didn't have to worry about my picture winding up on the back of a milk carton.  
Chad and I grew up in the same neighborhood and all the shit he said is true.  The funny thing is Steve, I grew up in the 90's and am only 26 years old, but all of those things mentioned in your rant were things we did as well.  Isn't is crazy that one generation changes that quickly?
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2009, 05:06:24 PM »
My neighborhood's covenants prohibit plywood forts and drainage ditch innertubing. 

We did it to ourselves. 
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2009, 05:12:51 PM »
That's why I like living in the country. If I feel like leveling a few fire ant hills with my Garand nobody cares.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2009, 05:15:53 PM »
That's why I like living in the country. If I feel like leveling a few fire ant hills with my Garand nobody cares.

The old M-80's did the job in disposing of a big fire ant hill. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2009, 06:08:37 PM »
The old M-80's did the job in disposing of a big fire ant hill. 

They did, we preferred kerosene and matches to clear out ant hills.  Of course that could have easily got away from you and you could have got you in some deep shit when you burnt up half a yard......I still feel the lingering effects of that ass whipping.
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