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The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« on: April 12, 2024, 10:31:37 AM »
Apologies to the communist-scripted behaviors of MLK and Rosa Parks, but I can argue that no one person had a more profound impact on race relations in this country than OJ Simpson.

When Simpson won the Heisman at USC in 1968, race relations in the US were at a tipping point. The Civil Rights movement dominated the news. Johnson (the most destructive president of all time - before Obama and the current babbling potato) was in charge. The "fair housing act" went into effect. King had been assassinated (don't get me started on that) that same year. The country was just five years removed from the stand in the schoolhouse door.

OJ was charismatic. Likeable. Affable. Good looking He didn't get involved in the issues. He was well spoken, friendly, and a singular talent, perhaps the best college athlete ever to that point.

His non-confrontational personality and his tremendous talent on the field made him an instant star, even though he was drafted and played for a bad Bills team.  He went out, did his job - as well as anyone had before him. 

Because he stayed out of the whole controversy that was going on, because he was always charming, he started to get endorsement deals that were previously unavailable to black players or celebrities.

Simply put?  His good looks and charismatic personality transcended all the negativity. He made it okay for white folks to like black guys - particularly white women. His popularity was a healing force at a time when the two sides were very far apart.

He was never much loved by blacks, who saw him as "too white" but his appeal among the whites really helped close the gap. The world was open to him. Acting, announcing, endorsements. He could have been or done anything.

Fast forward to the day he murdered his ex-wife and a waiter who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

Over time race relations had degraded. You can't force something that isn't natural. Watts Riots, Rodney King, Gangsta Rap, etc. spawned out of the growing divide. Distrust had swelled, particularly between police and the black community. 

When he murdered those people and then the jury acquitted him simply because he was black?  It was a betrayal. All the people who'd supported him, backed him, saw him as a bridge between the races?  His callous murderous rage and the jury's disregard of the evidence (and also his later confessions) drove the wedge between the races even deeper.  It has not recovered, honestly.  In the words of an older man I know "well, he proved that no matter how they act, there's always that part that's gonna come out." 

OJ moved us forward and then set us right back. 

We're at another tipping point now, thanks to one of the biggest racists in history, BH Obama. There's no OJ in sight.
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2024, 11:20:50 AM »
https://x.com/mouvement33/status/1778566905881829792

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I've been waiting 29 years to tell this story about OJ and his days at USC. Now that he's dead (may he burn in hell) I have a story that I signed an NDA for that is no longer valid. I was a junior at USC working in Topping Student Center on campus in 1995. I was an administrative assistant to the President of Student Affairs that semester in the work/study program.

In early 1995, Robert Shapiro and Robert Kardashian (USC Alumni) walked up to my desk and said they had an appt with my boss. I was studying to be a criminal defense lawyer with a dual major in PoliSci and International Relations so I knew who they were. The meeting lasted about 30 mins.

After they left I looked at my boss like wtf was that all about!? He walked me outside and we sat by the old sprawling big tree outside Topping and my boss lit a cigarette for the first time in years and told me I had to sign an NDA because I could confirm OJ's lawyers were there for a meeting. Then he told me what the meeting was about.

Before OJ could graduate from USC, the university paid off two families of two blonde white girls that he had dated and battered. They had both gone to the LAPD to report it. One claimed he also sexually assaulted her in their relationship. The school had a vested interest in OJ going far in football and protected him at all costs. OJ had been in custody for 6 months and lawyers were in the discovery process for the trial and OJ's friend Robert Kardashian, who knew OJ from also being a student at USC, thought it would be best if those stories never saw the light of day. So a large check was written, given to my boss, and they left. I'll never forget holding that check.

Now, did you hear about this before now? Nope. That's how much power money enables.

After he was acquitted I changed my major to Philosophy/Psychology double major. I understood that I could harm society more than not if I pursued law. This is also why I abhor the Kardashians. They're rich thugs. Nothing more. #OJISDEAD
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2024, 11:25:09 AM »
I wonder how many more of these stories will come out in the next few years.
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2024, 11:28:13 AM »
Im curious to see if he had CTE or similar, or if they'll even look at his brain for it. Like you said, charming, nice guy that everyone liked, on commercials, etc. Then suddenly 1993 rolls around and he snaps?? Ive always thought he could possibly have had some damage from football. Just made no sense he went from likable guy to crazy murderer in a span of a few years.
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2024, 11:55:31 AM »
Im curious to see if he had CTE or similar, or if they'll even look at his brain for it. Like you said, charming, nice guy that everyone liked, on commercials, etc. Then suddenly 1993 rolls around and he snaps?? Ive always thought he could possibly have had some damage from football. Just made no sense he went from likable guy to crazy murderer in a span of a few years.



It's over an hour long.  There are parts of this that are absolutely chilling. 

Maybe he was always violent. Figured his celebrity and fame would get him out of it like it always did.  He was right. 

There is no question in my mind he slaughtered those two people.  The only question I have is who was with him?  He wasn't alone. Somebody is still out there. 

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2024, 08:55:25 AM »


It's over an hour long.  There are parts of this that are absolutely chilling. 

Maybe he was always violent. Figured his celebrity and fame would get him out of it like it always did.  He was right. 

There is no question in my mind he slaughtered those two people.  The only question I have is who was with him?  He wasn't alone. Somebody is still out there. 


I still think it was Al Cowlings who never gave testimony by pleading the 5th.


They were friends from high school and he was a first round draft pick from USC to the Bills in consecutive seasons (1968 '69) , Cowlings being one year behind OJ.
That's weird in itself.
AC even ended his playing career at Frisco just like Simpson. They both got into acting, Cowlings eventually becoming godfather to the Simpson children.


Its as if they were pre-packaged together as lifelong bosom buddies or stepbrothers.


Too convenient? Probably, but there were no other witnesses or accomplices to the murders. 








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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2024, 10:20:42 AM »
The prosecution drilled into Nicole's safe and found photos proving that she had been beaten by OJ and that was ruled inadmissible.
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2024, 10:55:44 AM »
The prosecution drilled into Nicole's safe and found photos proving that she had been beaten by OJ and that was ruled inadmissible.


The “prosecution” was abysmal.  I could have done a better job.   It was like a DEI version of a prosecutorial team.  Zero talent. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2024, 01:30:29 PM »

The “prosecution” was abysmal.  I could have done a better job.   It was like a DEI version of a prosecutorial team.  Zero talent. 
So true. I worked nights then and was mesmerized by this first huge tv trial that had the attention of the whole country.
Unfortunately it turned into a longterm modern day Super Bowl-like farce.
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2024, 01:45:08 PM »
The prosecution drilled into Nicole's safe and found photos proving that she had been beaten by OJ and that was ruled inadmissible.
The prosecution isn’t the only ones who drilled into her safe. Believe me.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2024, 02:12:04 PM »
The prosecution isn’t the only ones who drilled into her safe. Believe me.

Wasn’t it speculated that her promiscuity was potential motive for her being “unalived”?
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2024, 04:33:37 PM »

Wasn’t it speculated that her promiscuity was potential motive for her being “unalived”?
I don't think so. Much of the public probably thought as much fwiw.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2024, 04:40:20 PM »
The Simpson's had separate residences. There was blood on a sock and on a glove found at her home (murder scene) and the same found at his home. There was a also a bloodstain on the back of Nicole's top which was somehow lost and bloody footprints found inside the Bronco.
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Re: The Legacy of OJ Simpson
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2024, 04:45:31 PM »
The Simpson's had separate residences. There was blood on a sock and on a glove found at her home (murder scene) and the same found at his home. There was a also a bloodstain on the back of Nicole's top which was somehow lost and bloody footprints found inside the Bronco.

I rewatched most of the ESPN 30/30 about the trial and aftermath. 

It does a much better and deeper dive into the racial undercurrent, OJ's whitewashing (to the point he didn't even consider himself black), Juice's return to blackness after that community abandoned him. 

If you watch that and come away with the idea he was innocent?  Can't help you. 

There are interviews with jurors, one of which admits he was guilty but black folks needed a win.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2024, 04:46:16 PM »
Now if we assume OJ found the bodies and tracked blood everywhere that could explain the bloodstains in the Bronco.

The socks and gloves at separate locations could possibly point to OJ being framed if you want to get conspiratorial.
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2024, 04:49:21 PM »
I rewatched most of the ESPN 30/30 about the trial and aftermath. 

It does a much better and deeper dive into the racial undercurrent, OJ's whitewashing (to the point he didn't even consider himself black), Juice's return to blackness after that community abandoned him. 

If you watch that and come away with the idea he was innocent?  Can't help you. 

There are interviews with jurors, one of which admits he was guilty but black folks needed a win.
Absolutely.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2024, 11:44:31 PM »
Went to a homicide class taught by a guy heavily involved in aftermath of the case. He was able to show stuff that was deemed inadmissible in court.

100000% percent, OJ did it. The lead detective was hot garbage as well as prosecutors.

Dude did it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2024, 08:57:56 AM »
Went to a homicide class taught by a guy heavily involved in aftermath of the case. He was able to show stuff that was deemed inadmissible in court.

100000% percent, OJ did it. The lead detective was hot garbage as well as prosecutors.

Dude did it.

Agree....they go through a ton of that on the 30 for 30 K mentioned. I watched the whole thing and felt like I had exercised all day. It was exhausting to watch and relive it. Marcia Clark wasn't particularly bad, but Darden was. Clark had an uphill battle the whole way.....no way she was ever winning that case with the way everything was stacked and the ineptness of the detectives/LAPD. But Darden absolutely sunk any slim chance they had. His blunders were inexplicable, most notably the "glove" experiment which backfired on him.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2024, 09:14:28 AM »
But Darden absolutely sunk any slim chance they had. His blunders were inexplicable, most notably the "glove" experiment which backfired on him.

Clark and Darden had agreed to not have OJ put the glove on.  Then Cochrane told Darden that he didn't have a mouse's balls if he didn't have OJ try on the glove.  When Darden stands to tell Ito that they're going to try the glove, you can see Clark look up at him in shock.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2024, 01:52:08 PM »
Clark and Darden had agreed to not have OJ put the glove on.  Then Cochrane told Darden that he didn't have a mouse's balls if he didn't have OJ try on the glove.  When Darden stands to tell Ito that they're going to try the glove, you can see Clark look up at him in shock.

Good eye.... I saw that too.

I loathed Cochran but that wasn't even a fair fight. Even down to having OJ NOT take his Rheumatoid Arthritis Anti-Inflammatory meds to make his hands swell a little more.
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