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Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« on: March 03, 2023, 02:37:00 PM »
https://twitter.com/JFergusonAU/status/1631736730180255745

I didn't realize that Flan and JWill were eligible for an extra year, if they choose so.

Mixed emtions for me.  I'd like to have JWill back, but I think I've seen enough Al.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2023, 03:01:22 PM »
https://twitter.com/JFergusonAU/status/1631736730180255745

I didn't realize that Flan and JWill were eligible for an extra year, if they choose so.

Mixed emtions for me.  I'd like to have JWill back, but I think I've seen enough Al.

I want to see Yohan & Chance Westry on the floor.  Aren't they both supposed to be future draft picks?
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2023, 03:09:56 PM »
JWill and Flanny aren't what plagues this team though.

We need guards, guards and guards.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2023, 03:11:44 PM »
I only want Jay to come back if he decides to get angry and selfishly take over the paint. 
He is a great guy but way too timid on the court. He might be the most talented guy on the floor, but we'll never know because he defers to most everyone else. The times he decides to take the ball to the basket, he makes a huge impact. The rest of the time he hangs out with the guards on the perimeter.
As for Flan, he is an asset if used correctly. Unfortunately I think Bruce cannot effectively judge him due to the circumstances.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2023, 03:48:16 PM »
I want to see Yohan & Chance Westry on the floor.  Aren't they both supposed to be future draft picks?

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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2023, 04:10:41 PM »
The guys listed as seniors are

Flanigan
JWill
Lior Berman
Chandler Leopard
Bobaganush Akingbola Wanatube

Zep is listed as  Grad Student, so I have no idea if he has eligibility left.

KD, Wendell, Chris Moore and Cardwell are all juniors.

John Eye is a sophomore, which surprised me.

I think it's unanimous across the board that everyone knows Bruce has got to hit the port hole hard, like U Free on an escort, and get a couple of bigger guards. I'm fine with Wendell running the point, as long as he's got some shooters to go to, and not have to take it all on himself.  GH said it best.  Having Jabari and Kessler there to dish the rock to, made him much more effective at the point.

I'm ready for Charley Pride....err, KD Johnson to move on.  Dude has 1 good game out of 5, and plays out of fucking control all the time. And if Zep is gone, I'm totally fine with that too.

As for Flanigan and JWill, I'm fine if they go.  Where would they go, besides transferring?  Neither are remotely ready for the big show. Overall, I have a feeling this roster will look vastly different next season. I would imagine that Pearl knows this team needs an overhaul. 


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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2023, 04:30:28 PM »
The guys listed as seniors are

Flanigan
JWill
Lior Berman
Chandler Leopard
Bobaganush Akingbola Wanatube

Zep is listed as  Grad Student, so I have no idea if he has eligibility left.

KD, Wendell, Chris Moore and Cardwell are all juniors.

John Eye is a sophomore, which surprised me.

I think it's unanimous across the board that everyone knows Bruce has got to hit the port hole hard, like U Free on an escort, and get a couple of bigger guards. I'm fine with Wendell running the point, as long as he's got some shooters to go to, and not have to take it all on himself.  GH said it best.  Having Jabari and Kessler there to dish the rock to, made him much more effective at the point.

I'm ready for Charley Pride....err, KD Johnson to move on.  Dude has 1 good game out of 5, and plays out of fucking control all the time. And if Zep is gone, I'm totally fine with that too.

As for Flanigan and JWill, I'm fine if they go.  Where would they go, besides transferring?  Neither are remotely ready for the big show. Overall, I have a feeling this roster will look vastly different next season. I would imagine that Pearl knows this team needs an overhaul.
Zep is out of the eligibility.  I believe that will be the spot for Holloway, who is already committed.
I was thinking Bruce gave Lior a scholly and Stretch is also on scholly.  I keep hearing that Flanigan is done, done, done.  So if my gazintas are correct, that would be 3 spots for transfers or more recruits.

Assuming Westry gets back to 100% and plays ike he did in Israel, he could play 2 or 3 and be an upgrade.  If JWill comes back and the light comes on for Traore, that has the 4 settled.  Broome and Cardy will be a good combo at the 5 again.  Need to find a Scotty Pohlman kinda sharpshooter for the 2 spot and probably another guy that could be a 3 or 4 in this offense (no offense to Moore).
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2023, 04:49:07 PM »
The guys listed as seniors are

Flanigan
JWill
Lior Berman
Chandler Leopard
Bobaganush Akingbola Wanatube

Zep is listed as  Grad Student, so I have no idea if he has eligibility left.

KD, Wendell, Chris Moore and Cardwell are all juniors.

John Eye is a sophomore, which surprised me.

I think it's unanimous across the board that everyone knows Bruce has got to hit the port hole hard, like U Free on an escort, and get a couple of bigger guards. I'm fine with Wendell running the point, as long as he's got some shooters to go to, and not have to take it all on himself.  GH said it best.  Having Jabari and Kessler there to dish the rock to, made him much more effective at the point.

I'm ready for Charley Pride....err, KD Johnson to move on.  Dude has 1 good game out of 5, and plays out of fucking control all the time. And if Zep is gone, I'm totally fine with that too.

As for Flanigan and JWill, I'm fine if they go.  Where would they go, besides transferring?  Neither are remotely ready for the big show. Overall, I have a feeling this roster will look vastly different next season. I would imagine that Pearl knows this team needs an overhaul.

Zep needs to go.

Only Flanny and JWill from the group you posted I would want back. Wen and KD I actually see value in. They are great role players and good off the bench but they just don't need to be starters in this conf at the 1 or 2. I don't want to run everyone off because we do need depth and some of those guys provide that. Im sorry I like the kid but Zep has zero value right now. Even his D has gone downhill. Look back at our last 12 games and see how many 0-0 lines hes posted. At least KD and Wen are hitting some shots.

Westry is a big guard. Yohan? No idea why the lights haven't come on. He reminds me of Purifoy that way. Aden Holloway is a stud coming in - hes only 6'0 but can shoot like no one we have now. Then we have a few studs in the 25 class too. Anything more than that will need portal help. Also love Akingbola (Stretch) and Lior but my lord thats a waste of 2 schollys.

Trust in Bruce.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2023, 05:00:37 PM »
Holloway is 6'5" with the afro.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2023, 05:19:35 PM »
There's no shortage of short guards that think they are 6'4.
We don't have aggressive forwards that can score unless it's a dunk following a missed shot.
We would have already qualified if Broome had a compliment (maybe a dustpan or perhaps a mop)
Agree that the portal is our best option because those on the active roster can do spot duty and eat minutes, just not 30+ minutes a game type of talent.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2023, 05:32:37 PM »
Zep needs to go.

Only Flanny and JWill from the group you posted I would want back. Wen and KD I actually see value in. They are great role players and good off the bench but they just don't need to be starters in this conf at the 1 or 2. I don't want to run everyone off because we do need depth and some of those guys provide that. Im sorry I like the kid but Zep has zero value right now. Even his D has gone downhill. Look back at our last 12 games and see how many 0-0 lines hes posted. At least KD and Wen are hitting some shots.

Westry is a big guard. Yohan? No idea why the lights haven't come on. He reminds me of Purifoy that way. Aden Holloway is a stud coming in - hes only 6'0 but can shoot like no one we have now. Then we have a few studs in the 25 class too. Anything more than that will need portal help. Also love Akingbola (Stretch) and Lior but my lord thats a waste of 2 schollys.

Trust in Bruce.
I think they were banking heavily on a full Flan recovery with a steady Cardwell and a progressing Moore. Didn't happen.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2023, 12:50:59 PM »
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2023, 01:03:41 PM »
Traore in the portal:

https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1640756903679610880

This one hurts, even though year 1 was underwhelming.  Would have loved to see him live up to the hype here.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2023, 01:04:53 PM »
Traore in the portal:

https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1640756903679610880
A little surprised at this, but I guess if he wasn't a fit this year he won't be next year either.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2023, 02:19:06 PM »
Sounds like Pearl will be hitting the portal as well to replace some outgoing talent. From what already seems to be a busy transfer portal season, I'm certain Pearl can work it to benefit Auburn.
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2023, 03:00:29 PM »
We would have already qualified if Broome had a compliment (maybe a dustpan or perhaps a mop)
This is Indicative of why I have not lost faith in you. No matter the shit I see talked about you in the VIP places on the internet, I continue to be a supporter.

Sure, you get on my nerves sometimes but still.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2023, 03:13:06 PM »
Add Westry to the portal list...

https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/chance-westry-auburn-basketball-transfer-207461529/
Now Traore I kinda get. He didn't seem to fit in and could not get comfortable.
But Westry is puzzling. He got hurt and BP knew it wasn't worth it to force him on the floor. Did this upset Westry because he thought he could have gone pro with just a half a season under his belt? Or did he not play due to "other" reasons.
I was really looking forward to seeing what he could do.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2023, 03:16:49 PM »
Sounds like Pearl will be hitting the portal as well to replace some outgoing talent. From what already seems to be a busy transfer portal season, I'm certain Pearl can work it to benefit Auburn.

a few of the major beat guys who are much closer to Steven and Bruce than they were Harsten or Allen Greenie said a week Ago that a "major roster overhaul" was in the works. But I think the rub with Westry is that he totally blindsided Bruce with the portal move. From what they are saying, Bruce found out like our own folks did - via the portal site.
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Re: Should They Stay or Should They Go Now...
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2023, 03:18:29 PM »
Now Traore I kinda get. He didn't seem to fit in and could not get comfortable.
But Westry is puzzling. He got hurt and BP knew it wasn't worth it to force him on the floor. Did this upset Westry because he thought he could have gone pro with just a half a season under his belt? Or did he not play due to "other" reasons.
I was really looking forward to seeing what he could do.

True but at the end of the day, ZERO current production was lost in these moves. ZERO. Only potential production which we will never really know. Maybe Westry will 100% come back from his injury elsewhere and Traroe will find a place where the light will come on.
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