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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2016, 04:17:13 PM »
The question is where the hell does Trump align politically? He's a huge progressive in my eyes.  You can hate me for saying it but it's completely true.

Sanders wants to fundamentally transform America and that is completely wrong.

My vote goes to Cruz. One of the things I like about him is that not many people try to attack him on issues because they know they'll lose.  Also, I don't have to apologize for anything Cruz says or does because it's exactly what I believe. Trump and his leftist slander tactics tell me exactly who he is.  Any attack against Ted Cruz is now an attack against me.

Pretty much where I am now as well.  I had high hopes for Carson, and would still love to see him climb back up the polls, but I seriously doubt it will happen.  It's Cruz or the Dominican Republic for me now.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2016, 04:22:21 PM »
Pretty much where I am now as well.  I had high hopes for Carson, and would still love to see him climb back up the polls, but I seriously doubt it will happen.  It's Cruz or the Dominican Republic for me now.

I hear St. Croix is nice.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2016, 04:23:12 PM »
Pretty much where I am now as well.  I had high hopes for Carson, and would still love to see him climb back up the polls, but I seriously doubt it will happen.  It's Cruz or the Dominican Republic for me now.
You're just like all the other movie star types that threaten to leave the country. Srsly, you are a lot like Rosie O'donnel in many ways. You two are like twins.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2016, 04:27:32 PM »
Pretty much where I am now as well.  I had high hopes for Carson, and would still love to see him climb back up the polls, but I seriously doubt it will happen.  It's Cruz or the Dominican Republic for me now.


Nice golf courses, but the population lacks any real variety.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2016, 04:30:48 PM »

Nice golf courses, but the population lacks any real variety.

Kind of like the Oscars.
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2016, 04:33:56 PM »
I'm still holding out hope that Trump is only here to get a faction of the voting population that the republican party couldn't get, only to bow out gracefully and urge all of his supporters to support Rubio or Cruz.  But I'm starting to see now his ego won't let that happen. 

At the end of the day, I'll be voting for Rubio or Cruz during the primaries, haven't made my mind up yet on which.  Then, I'll vote against socialism and communism in the presidential election by whatever means necessary. 
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2016, 04:53:41 PM »
by whatever means necessary.
I suspected you were NOI, the whole time.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2016, 11:01:39 PM »
Pretty much where I am now as well.  I had high hopes for Carson, and would still love to see him climb back up the polls, but I seriously doubt it will happen.  It's Cruz or the Dominican Republic for me now.

The birther stuff.

The bomb throwing and name calling of Cruz.

The endorsements of Coulter and Palin.

His constant flip flops on things and past positions of supporting progressives more than anything

Lack of substance or ANY amount of detail

Nah, Im good. I just don't trust him. He's provided no substance, and has resorted to going to the mud with Cruz since he's now locked in tight with him in Iowa. Because he sure as hell isn't gonna stand toe to toe with Ted on actual policy debate.

He's even resorted to promising Iowans MORE Corn Subsidies that even Obama gave and his Senate gave them. Tell me that aint buying votes.
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2016, 11:04:10 PM »
The question is where the hell does Trump align politically? He's a huge progressive in my eyes.  You can hate me for saying it but it's completely true.

Sanders wants to fundamentally transform America and that is completely wrong.

My vote goes to Cruz. One of the things I like about him is that not many people try to attack him on issues because they know they'll lose.  Also, I don't have to apologize for anything Cruz says or does because it's exactly what I believe. Trump and his leftist slander tactics tell me exactly who he is.  Any attack against Ted Cruz is now an attack against me.

Pretty much my take 100%.
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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2016, 09:21:42 AM »
We've forgotten the danger. 

In conversations I've heard people say "I don't care if he's communist I'd vote for him over trump."  Or So what if she's a socialist? At least she's not cocky like trump.  I don't like his hair."'

Yeah.  Trunp is a blowhard.  He pisses people off for sport.  But he's not a namby pamby career politician.  And he speaks for a lot of people who don't have a voice any more because they've been shamed out of it. 

Disagree with gay marriage?  Homophobe! Queer hater!!  Don't support affirmative action? Racist!! Afraid of the cultural erosion coming with the Islamic immigration invasion? Bigot!!! 

Political correctness and the media that enforces it has robbed us of our ability to discuss topics.  And we get Trump.

I'm watching and waiting. But I laugh every time someone tries to poo poo on Trump. His numbers just keep going up. Is he an ideal candidate? Probably not. But he has been in business long enough to know the game. I've never seen him organize a community. He's never been part of any establishment that did not make him money. And I've never seen a pic of him with Saul Alinsky. So I watch and I wait.
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2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2016, 09:33:02 AM »
I'm watching and waiting. But I laugh every time someone tries to poo poo on Trump. His numbers just keep going up. Is he an ideal candidate? Probably not. But he has been in business long enough to know the game. I've never seen him organize a community. He's never been part of any establishment that did not make him money. And I've never seen a pic of him with Saul Alinsky. So I watch and I wait.

Just because he isn't a commie doesn't mean there aren't better people more qualified on the gop side. Some on that side actually have conviction. And have stood on the house floor trying to stop Barry's commie legislation. Where the fuck were trump or palin when Cruz, Paul, Lee and Rubio were trying stop Barrycare?

Donald has molded himself into a Jonny come lately populist. Check out his views from years ago. Or how he was in bed with Bloomberg or Hillary or cuomo or wiener very recently. Now suddenly he is this revolutionary conservative freedom fighter? F that noise. Trump is a walking ego. He wants the power. And will say anything to the primary voters to get it. Such as getting a hypocrite evangelical nutjob like palin to endorse him to sway a few holy roller votes in Iowa. Or promising people in Iowa more subsidies at the 11th hour to sway some more votes?

Gimme a break.
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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2016, 09:42:45 AM »
I still think Trump will slip up along the way. He seems to reckless in the PR department. I still feel the Republicans will end up pulling for Cruz. Not sure Rubio nor Carson can make up the ground at this point.

As far as Bernie is concerned, I'd rather see him get a sniff at the WH than I would Hillary but that isn't really saying much except they both suck.
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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2016, 11:01:09 AM »
Just because he isn't a commie doesn't mean there aren't better people more qualified on the gop side. Some on that side actually have conviction. And have stood on the house floor trying to stop Barry's commie legislation. Where the fuck were trump or palin when Cruz, Paul, Lee and Rubio were trying stop Barrycare?

Donald has molded himself into a Jonny come lately populist. Check out his views from years ago. Or how he was in bed with Bloomberg or Hillary or cuomo or wiener very recently. Now suddenly he is this revolutionary conservative freedom fighter? F that noise. Trump is a walking ego. He wants the power. And will say anything to the primary voters to get it. Such as getting a hypocrite evangelical nutjob like palin to endorse him to sway a few holy roller votes in Iowa. Or promising people in Iowa more subsidies at the 11th hour to sway some more votes?

Gimme a break.

You get a break. Those like you have allowed the establishment to continue unabated for years, you helped create a Trump. Cruz has been pretty staunch in his conservative approach, but he, at this time, does not seem to have the charisma to win. Rubio has had a few questionable decisions in the immigration department. Still, both have been on office. They are associated with the norm.

I have no problem with Cruz or Rubio. But I still have no problem with Trump. Trump knows business. He has dealt with many countries along the way. He is not a stupid man. And so far, he is winning without laying out a specific plan. He has goaded the media into paying for most of his advertising. He gets things done. He is pro business, pro money, and pro America. A strong America means a strong Trump. I am not clueless to that. I'm not saying he is the answer, but I'm not saying he is NOT the answer. He still may screw it up. But he may just win the primary. At that point, many of us must make a choice. If your choice is Gary Johnson, you are part of the problem and should never bitch about a dim in office again.

So for now, I wait and see.
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2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2016, 11:30:39 AM »
You get a break. Those like you have allowed the establishment to continue unabated for years, you helped create a Trump. Cruz has been pretty staunch in his conservative approach, but he, at this time, does not seem to have the charisma to win. Rubio has had a few questionable decisions in the immigration department. Still, both have been on office. They are associated with the norm.

I have no problem with Cruz or Rubio. But I still have no problem with Trump. Trump knows business. He has dealt with many countries along the way. He is not a stupid man. And so far, he is winning without laying out a specific plan. He has goaded the media into paying for most of his advertising. He gets things done. He is pro business, pro money, and pro America. A strong America means a strong Trump. I am not clueless to that. I'm not saying he is the answer, but I'm not saying he is NOT the answer. He still may screw it up. But he may just win the primary. At that point, many of us must make a choice. If your choice is Gary Johnson, you are part of the problem and should never bitch about a dim in office again.

So for now, I wait and see.

You seriously just call me establishment and part of the problem? You are on as much crack as trump and palin. Not sure where the Gary Johnson stuff is coming from. Never once mentioned that guy or support for the establishment but you keep building that straw man.

Cruz is as anti establishment as it gets. Rubio is solid. Not sure where you are getting your assertions about me. Mark Levin is right. You trump knobslobbers have painted this narrative that you either have to like the Donald or you are an establishment shill. I believe Cruz was the one fighting Barry, his band of commies and the establishment in dc, not Donald.
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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2016, 11:57:58 AM »
Just because he isn't a commie doesn't mean there aren't better people more qualified on the gop side. Some on that side actually have conviction. And have stood on the house floor trying to stop Barry's commie legislation. Where the fuck were trump or palin when Cruz, Paul, Lee and Rubio were trying stop Barrycare?

Donald has molded himself into a Jonny come lately populist. Check out his views from years ago. Or how he was in bed with Bloomberg or Hillary or cuomo or wiener very recently. Now suddenly he is this revolutionary conservative freedom fighter? F that noise. Trump is a walking ego. He wants the power. And will say anything to the primary voters to get it. Such as getting a hypocrite evangelical nutjob like palin to endorse him to sway a few holy roller votes in Iowa. Or promising people in Iowa more subsidies at the 11th hour to sway some more votes?

Gimme a break.
The only difference in Hillary and Trump, is not the authoritarian big government policy, massive ego, thirst for power, war mongering, bullshit artistry, hucksterism, saying whatever will get them votes. It's that at least she doesn't sound like a blathering fucking idiot with every single thing that comes out of her mouth, and at least she actually does have some experience in actually governing. That is not an endorsement of Hillary. It's to say that Hillary is awful and Trump is somehow even worse.

I still think Trump will slip up along the way. He seems to reckless in the PR department. I still feel the Republicans will end up pulling for Cruz. Not sure Rubio nor Carson can make up the ground at this point.

As far as Bernie is concerned, I'd rather see him get a sniff at the WH than I would Hillary but that isn't really saying much except they both suck.
WHEN?!? People keep saying this and every day that passes, it is a dumber thing to say. What in the bleeding fuck could this guy possibly do that would lose CCTAU & Kaos's vote? I'm fairly positive he could read passages from Mein Kampf and they'd nod along.
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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2016, 12:01:40 PM »
 :popcorn:
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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2016, 12:02:55 PM »
You seriously just call me establishment and part of the problem? You are on as much crack as trump and palin. Not sure where the Gary Johnson stuff is coming from. Never once mentioned that guy or support for the establishment but you keep building that straw man.

Cruz is as anti establishment as it gets. Rubio is solid. Not sure where you are getting your assertions about me. Mark Levin is right. You trump knobslobbers have painted this narrative that you either have to like the Donald or you are an establishment shill. I believe Cruz was the one fighting Barry, his band of commies and the establishment in dc, not Donald.
No, no no. You're part of the GOP establishment if you support someone from a completely different party entirely, whose pretty much entire platform as a party is disrupting the status quo...
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Unless this makes sense to you, you're just a cog in the machine, man...
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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2016, 12:29:34 PM »
:popcorn:

I thought I read that Kaos said this movie was too long and very redundant.  :spidy:
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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2016, 12:36:58 PM »
WHEN?!? People keep saying this and every day that passes, it is a dumber thing to say. What in the bleeding fuck could this guy possibly do that would lose CCTAU & Kaos's vote? I'm fairly positive he could read passages from Mein Kampf and they'd nod along.

Don't know but I hope soon before the final primary votes are in. The more Trump gets comfortable the more he opens his mouth to say something stupid. My assumption is that he will eventually and will back himself into a corner to where he has to withdraw. Either that or Cruz will really have to put on the pressure. I really don't want to Trump to be the one I vote for but I would vote for him over the Dem option. Its that bad. Hell, to be honest I'd weigh the option of not even voting.
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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2016, 01:35:10 PM »
You seriously just call me establishment and part of the problem? You are on as much crack as trump and palin. Not sure where the Gary Johnson stuff is coming from. Never once mentioned that guy or support for the establishment but you keep building that straw man.

Cruz is as anti establishment as it gets. Rubio is solid. Not sure where you are getting your assertions about me. Mark Levin is right. You trump knobslobbers have painted this narrative that you either have to like the Donald or you are an establishment shill. I believe Cruz was the one fighting Barry, his band of commies and the establishment in dc, not Donald.
Because Cruz has been there, he is considered part of the establishment by many. I was speaking in terms of perception. I have said many times that I have not decided, yet you sandy vagina types want to refer to anyone still giving Trump a chance as "knobslobbers". Funny.

I am starting to put you in the same category as chizad when it come to Trump. You are so blinded, you don't actually listen. I expect it from him. I thought better of you. Sorry.
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.