Donald Trump for President?

[Tarheel]

Well, I would almost say that anyone is an improvement over Pharaoh Obama. 

This particular poll surprised me having Donald Trump tied with Mike Huckleberry.  The last poll I saw had the illiterate bigot in the lead with Trump nowhere to be found and Mitt Romney well behind.  Maybe when we add Ron Paul (the dookie, yes I wrote it and he is a dook grad) into the mix (he will announce very soon I think) the Parson Weems wannabe from Arkansas will fall even farther down in the stats.

I really don't know if anyone has a prayer of beating the Pharaoh this time around.  Quite frankly I just don't see it happening but I'd be OK with that as long as the Senate gains a Republican majority (along with the House) to keep The ONE better in check.

Here's how this poll looks:

Mitt Romney, 21%
Donald Trump, 17%
Mike Huckleberry, 17%
Newt Gingrich, 11%
Sarah Palin, 10%
Tim Pawlenty, 6%
Michelle Bachman, 5%
Rick Santorum, 3%
Haley Barbour, 1%

and I guess the remaining 9% don't know who they want to vote for in 2012.

Here's an excerpt from the WSJ, all emphasis is my own:

WSJ/NBC Poll: A Donald Trump Surprise

April 6, 2011, 5:00 PM ET

By Jonathan Weisman and Scott Greenberg

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney appears to be the early front-runner in the largely unformed race for the Republican nomination for president, but real estate magnate Donald Trump may be a surprise contender, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.

Among Republican primary voters, Mr. Romney captured the support of 21% in a broad, nine-candidate field. Mr. Trump was tied for second with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, with 17%. House Speaker Newt Gingrich got 11%, just ahead of former Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s 10%. Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, considered a strong contender by political handicappers, remains largely unknown, with just 6% support. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota had 5%, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum 3%, and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour with just 1%.

Mr. Trump “may be a punch line but when he talks about the way to solve our problems, he makes a lot of sense to the average guy out there,” said Todd Mauney, a conservative Republican in Weatherford, Texas. “I don’t know if people can get over him being the butt of every joke but for me, he can be serious when it’s time to make real decisions.“
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Full story:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/06/wsjnbc-poll-a-donald-trump-surprise/tab/print/

[AUTailgatingRules]

He is the master at leading a company through bankruptcy.  We are going to need that experience in the white house.

[djsimp]

He is the master at leading a company through bankruptcy.  We are going to need that experience in the white house.

Yes, but the Dems will beat Trumpeth to death with his so called dealings with Gadafi. (yes this is my spelling since there are about 8 differents ways to do so).

[AUChizad]

All are pretty 

Only ones I could see possibly voting for would be Romney and Pawlenty.

[GH2001]

Well, I would almost say that anyone is an improvement over Pharaoh Obama. 

This particular poll surprised me having Donald Trump tied with Mike Huckleberry.  The last poll I saw had the illiterate bigot in the lead with Trump nowhere to be found and Mitt Romney well behind.  Maybe when we add Ron Paul (the dookie, yes I wrote it and he is a dook grad) into the mix (he will announce very soon I think) the Parson Weems wannabe from Arkansas will fall even farther down in the stats.

I really don't know if anyone has a prayer of beating the Pharaoh this time around.  Quite frankly I just don't see it happening but I'd be OK with that as long as the Senate gains a Republican majority (along with the House) to keep The ONE better in check.

Here's how this poll looks:

Mitt Romney, 21%
Donald Trump, 17%
Mike Huckleberry, 17%
Newt Gingrich, 11%
Sarah Palin, 10%
Tim Pawlenty, 6%
Michelle Bachman, 5%
Rick Santorum, 3%
Haley Barbour, 1%

Let me add Jindal, Christie, Paul and Johnson (from Wisc I believe)

and I guess the remaining 9% don't know who they want to vote for in 2012.

Here's an excerpt from the WSJ, all emphasis is my own:

Full story:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/06/wsjnbc-poll-a-donald-trump-surprise/tab/print/

My comments in bold and strikethrough.

[AUTiger1]

If the R's run any of these:
Mitt Romney, 21%
Donald Trump, 17%
Mike Huckleberry, 17%
Newt Gingrich, 11%
Sarah Palin, 10%

Out of that, Romney is the only one that has a chance at beating Obama......the rest would more than likely get destroyed.  Of course things can change quickly, but as of today, that is how I see it.

[Lurking Tiger]

America's youts put Obama in office.

The elderly will take him out. One and done.

Romney will be your next President. Newt will be in the on deck circle.

If Trump gets anywhere near the White House. I will pull an Alec Baldwin.

[Townhallsavoy]

They all suck.

Until we realize that, it'll be the same thing over and over and over and over and over.

[Lurking Tiger]

They all suck.

Until we realize that, it'll be the same thing over and over and over and over and over.

The people most qualified for the job are also too smart to want it.

[GarMan]

They all suck.

Until we realize that, it'll be the same thing over and over and over and over and over.

Ummm...  Most of us realize that, but if you don't vote for the least suckiest one, you may get stuck with one of the worst, which is what we're stuck with now. 

[Townhallsavoy]

The people most qualified for the job are also too smart to want it.

You mean jobs.

It's a system wide issue.  Everyone in office is greedy.  Everyone is power hungry - but not for actual power.  Everyone is simply trying to be reelected and keep their opposing party down. 

It's like the Auburn-Alabama rivalry.  It doesn't matter how much cheating is going on.  It doesn't matter how many people you hurt in the process.  As long as you win, you're golden.  And if the other side falls apart because of your winning, you're god-like. 

[GarMan]

The people most qualified for the job are also too smart to want it. 

Zactly... 

[Townhallsavoy]

Ummm...  Most of us realize that, but if you don't vote for the least suckiest one, you may get stuck with one of the worst, which is what we're stuck with now.

What if they're all awful?  Especially right now. 

I mean, look at our options for the head of the executive branch of the government:

Sarah Palin
Newt Gingrich
Barack Obama
Mitt Romney
Donald Trump

I mean, out of those names, do any of them scream, "strong leadership"?  Do anyone of them make you think, "This guy or gal is going to protect my safety and think of me first"? 

They all suck.  They're all zero.  It doesn't matter what you multiply by zero, it's still zero. 

And it's not just them.  It's these lifetime/career senators and representatives.  It's the fact that congress has turned into one big board of trustees working for the same company with the same goal in mind. 

Did you know that every president since Nixon has promised to distance America from foreign oil? 

Last I check, I was paying a boatload of money to the gas company for oil owned by the bad guys. 

(Don't call them bad guys, though.  That's mean.)

[GarMan]

What if they're all awful?  Especially right now. 

I mean, look at our options for the head of the executive branch of the government:

Sarah Palin
Newt Gingrich
Barack Obama
Mitt Romney
Donald Trump

I mean, out of those names, do any of them scream, "strong leadership"?  Do anyone of them make you think, "This guy or gal is going to protect my safety and think of me first"? 

Newt and Mitt...  I feel most comfortable with them. 

They all suck.  They're all zero.  It doesn't matter what you multiply by zero, it's still zero. 

So?  What are you saying?  Do nothing?  Don't vote?  Let the least qualified loser continue for another 4 years?  I don't mind your assessment, but give us something.  What's the solution to this??? 

And it's not just them.  It's these lifetime/career senators and representatives.  It's the fact that congress has turned into one big board of trustees working for the same company with the same goal in mind. 

Did you know that every president since Nixon has promised to distance America from foreign oil? 

Last I check, I was paying a boatload of money to the gas company for oil owned by the bad guys. 

(Don't call them bad guys, though.  That's mean.) 

Just FYI, less than 35% of our oil imports come from the middle east.  The majority of our oil is sourced from the Western Hemisphere.  Until we get the Taxicrats and Enviro-morons out of the way and start drilling locally, we'll continue to rely heavily on foreign oil. 
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

[GarMan]

And, what about Herman Cain?  Personally, I don't believe that he has enough name recognition to carry the votes, but the latest poll numbers are looking promising...

[Tarheel]

My comments in bold and strikethrough.

I like your suggestions, GH, but I don't think that Christie and Jindal will run in 2012.  Christie would be such a great candidate.  The ONE would wet his pants confronted by him in any debate.

I have constantly been impressed with Paul Ryan of Wisconsin but I don't think he'll run either. 

Of course I'd even concede that Ron Paul would be a marked improvement over the Pharoah Obama (despite being a dookie), and I'm sure that he'll run; just not sure that the party elites will get behind him this time either.  Having said that though Reince Priebus is a better leader of the Republican Party than Michael Steele was and he might be able to rally the party behind someone outside of the party apparatchik mould.

And, what about Herman Cain?  Personally, I don't believe that he has enough name recognition to carry the votes, but the latest poll numbers are looking promising...

I like Herman Cain too.  He is going to run and he has been working the Iowa circuit and the Talk Radio shows so he's getting his name out there.  He's a very smart businessman.

He'd be tough for the Pharaoh to beat I think.

America's youts put Obama in office.

The elderly will take him out. One and done.

Romney will be your next President. Newt will be in the on deck circle.

If Trump gets anywhere near the White House. I will pull an Alec Baldwin.

I do hope you're right, LT.  I am not quite so jaded as some on this entire slate of candidates (Romney, Bachmann, and Pawlenty are all very capable, experienced, candidates with broad appeal).

The concern I see with the upcoming campaign is the messaging.  The ONE is very, very good at lying and compulsion and has a War Chest in the billions of shekels.  The Republicans have not been successful at messaging or fundraising...but that might change this time around with the Tea Party Movement and other right of center groups getting more active.

By the way, I went round-and-round arguing with someone that it was indeed the youts that put The ONE in office; every demographic was almost evenly divided or weighted towards McCain; but the yout vote, while not the biggest numerically, was extremely weighted towards The Pharaoh.

All are pretty 

Only ones I could see possibly voting for would be Romney and Pawlenty.

I'm very proud of you, Chizad, maybe there's hope for you yet.

[GH2001]

Pawlenty I can live with but would rather have a Christie/Cain/Paul type. A ball buster. A Reagan.

Chris Christie needs to fucking run in 2012!!! Listen to any of his pressers and you will see. And he needs to have either Rand Paul or Herman Cain as VP. I would get drunk all day if that ticket was announced as an option in 2012.

And yes, Paul Ryan is extremely brilliant. Would love to have him as well. But I'm afraid he is one of the few up in DC who GETS it and we need him up there fighting the good fight with the budget. It seems him and Rand are the only 2 on Capitol Hill who see the dire straights of our fiscal situation and the need to STOP spending in a drastic way.

GarMan - Mitt and Newt? Tha fuck? Do you like neocons? Newt is much like Nixon. Very smart guy, HAD some great ideas and sold out to the RINOs years back. Just like Nixon did between 60 and 68. We're just gonna have to disagree on this one.

[GarMan]

GarMan - Mitt and Newt? Tha eff? Do you like neocons? Newt is much like Nixon. Very smart guy, HAD some great ideas and sold out to the RINOs years back. Just like Nixon did between 60 and 68. We're just gonna have to disagree on this one.

I think you're holding out for the near-impossible.  You might as well vote for Santa Claus or the Toof Fairy based on today's numbers. 

Newt is a fiscal conservative.  He'll get the spending under control, and I do trust him more than others when it comes to national security and foreign relations.  Unfortunately, I also agree with you about his RINO/Neo-Con ways.  He's more likely to pull a GWB with another prescription drug program for deadbeats...  or continue with some sort of healthcare to appease the Socialists in our country. 

I see Mitt as the most Conservative of the leads, but I'm also the guy who brought Cain into this discussion.  Mitt was also a governor, and Cain was a CEO.  I see the leadership quality with them...

[GH2001]

I think you're holding out for the near-impossible.  You might as well vote for Santa Claus or the Toof Fairy based on today's numbers. 

Newt is a fiscal conservative.  He'll get the spending under control, and I do trust him more than others when it comes to national security and foreign relations.  Unfortunately, I also agree with you about his RINO/Neo-Con ways.  He's more likely to pull a GWB with another prescription drug program for deadbeats...  or continue with some sort of healthcare to appease the Socialists in our country. 

I see Mitt as the most Conservative of the leads, but I'm also the guy who brought Cain into this discussion.  Mitt was also a governor, and Cain was a CEO.  I see the leadership quality with them...

Mitt I could probably be 'ok' with. Not sure on Newt. I think you are right about GWB potential there although Newt is leap and bounds ahead of GWB on the IQ chart but hell, so is my dog.

[Vandy Vol]

Just FYI, less than 35% of our oil imports come from the middle east.  The majority of our oil is sourced from the Western Hemisphere.  Until we get the Taxicrats and Enviro-morons out of the way and start drilling locally, we'll continue to rely heavily on foreign oil. 
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

True, but slightly misleading.  Iraq and Kuwait sit upon 20 percent of the world's known oil; Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Emirates sit upon another 25 percent.  The Middle East has far more proven oil reserves than every other region, and even when you take into consideration the existence of recoverable and unconventional oil reserves, they're still in a very strong second.





So even though we may not directly be getting the majority of our oil from the Middle East, the ultimate source may often be from the Middle East.  Case in point:  Canada imports 55% of its oil, most of which comes from countries such as Saudi Arabia and Algeria.  Libya exports 85% of its oil to Europe, from which we import, albeit from only a handful of countries.

Of course, this doesn't mean that a majority of our oil necessarily comes from the Middle East originally; I haven't looked at every country's oil import percentages by country, but I'm relatively certain that your basic premise about the majority of our oil not coming from the Middle East is correct.  Countries like Colombia, Angola, and especially Venezuela obviously export oil without a need to import it.  Nonetheless, the fact that we import X% of oil from non-Middle Eastern countries doesn't always mean that the source of the entirety of that X% of oil is not from a Middle Eastern country originally.