Scarbinsky On Saban's Oversigning...

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #240 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:09:16 PM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on February 10, 2011, 02:06:45 PM

Yes I did say the depth chart would clear it up and I agree you have to predict the future to see where a player will end up. I am not suggesting anyone predict the future. I am suggesting the only way you know what a coach has in store for a particular player at the present time is by looking at a damn depth chart or roster. Sure those position labels may change but until they do, that is the only thing you as a fan has to go on. You do know a coach has the final say in what position a kid is listed as right? So when rosters come out, it would be safe to say that you know what the coach has in store for that kid for the time being. No you don't know what the coach is thinking but you know what he has agreed on putting on paper officially. Is that not one of the purposes of a roster is to let the fans know what position a kid plays? So, if you go back to any roster or chart that has any given player, from new signees to seniors, what you see has that kids position and is what the coach agrees to release to the fans.

Other than that, you telling me that a coach has no fucking clue what is being printed and given to the fans; there names, numbers, positions, etc? Who does the guy in charge of the rosters charts and gameday material get his info from the fucking garbage man? I guess he just puts whatever he wants to on there?

Again, I never said to predict anything, I said look to the roster from the coaches, past or present, to see what the coaches plans for that kid at that given time.

God. Damn.

eagleair89 · « **Reply #241 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:11:19 PM »

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on February 10, 2011, 02:09:16 PM

God. Damn.

yep, exactly.

GH2001 · « **Reply #242 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:19:48 PM »

Anyone notice the title of this thread?

BTW - welcome back Kaos.

djsimp · « **Reply #243 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:23:42 PM »

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on February 10, 2011, 02:09:16 PM

God. Damn.

Suck it WE!!!

eagleair89 · « **Reply #244 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:28:15 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on February 10, 2011, 02:19:48 PM

Anyone notice the title of this thread?

BTW - welcome back Kaos.

now if only Galen would come back, we could discuss how much success & how quickly Notre Dame is going to return to relevancy.

GH2001 · « **Reply #245 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:35:14 PM »

Quote from: eagleair89 on February 10, 2011, 02:28:15 PM

now if only Galen would come back, we could discuss how much success & how quickly Notre Dame is going to return to relevancy.

I think nd is right on track with what Kao....I mean Galen said.

Kaos · « **Reply #246 on:** February 10, 2011, 02:35:54 PM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on February 10, 2011, 02:06:45 PM

blah, blah, blah....I am suggesting the only way you know what a coach has in store for a particular player at the present time is by looking at a damn depth chart or roster. ...blah, blah, blah

And again... your suggestion is a failure.

The original concept is that "Tuberville would have used Fairley on the OL."

Let me see if I can clear it up for you.

NO MOTHERFUCKING DEPTH CHART, NO LIST OF PROSPECTS, NO MOTHERFUCKING OUIJA BOARD, NOT EVEN FUCKING NOSTRADAMUS CAN STATE THAT WITH ANY DEGREE OF CERTAINTY. ALL ANYBODY CAN DO IS GUESS.

Fuck dude, you're horrible at this. Please. Give up.

The Prowler · « **Reply #247 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:11:13 PM »

How many Offensive Linemen move over to the Defense? Not that many. Maybe a handful in NCAA history & one was a player at West Alabama...he moved from OT to NG (Cliff Cobb 6'10" 455lbs+).

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #248 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:19:29 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on February 10, 2011, 03:11:13 PM

How many Offensive Linemen move over to the Defense? Not that many. Maybe a handful in NCAA history & one was a player at West Alabama...he moved from OT to NG (Cliff Cobb 6'10" 455lbs+).

To Cliff Cobb

As was said earlier, CTT's staff did far more changing of DL's to OL. I think Andrew McCain might be the exception. He played everything except color commentator. I thnk one thing to look at is how many started on one side of the ball and actually got a shot and then were moved...out of necessity or just re-evaluating that player's strengths.

I imagine AJ Greene would be an example of them saying, you're never going to see the field much on D so beef up 20 pounds or so and try it at tackle. He was on D for several years. McCain came in as about a 240 pound TE if memory serves. He was moved to DE then eventually to offensive tackle. Goggans went the other way. I thought the guy had promise at TE but turned out his forte was teh tackling.

Kaos · « **Reply #249 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:21:10 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on February 10, 2011, 03:11:13 PM

How many Offensive Linemen move over to the Defense? Not that many. Maybe a handful in NCAA history & one was a player at West Alabama...he moved from OT to NG (Cliff Cobb 6'10" 455lbs+).

How many Auburn teams in the last 20 years won the national championship?

Oh, I guess that means Auburn couldn't possibly win it in 2010.

Logical fail, Prowler. You have no idea in the world how many players in NCAA history were recruited for offense and moved to defense. None. More bullshit.

Come back and let me know in ten years after you've completed a historical analysis of every player ever recruited who played offense in high school. You must take into account that most high schoolers play both ways so you'll have to guess which way they would be directed in college... oh wait... you can't.

Fail.

And for the last time as it pertains to Fairley, he moved to defense at Co-Lin. Since he was an AU recruit -- a Tuberville recruit -- did it ever occur to you that they were told/asked to work him on defense BY the Auburn staff that placed him there?

It's a total loss, Prowler. A complete fail on your part. Nice try, though. You'll have to find other rocks to throw at Tuberville. Maybe you don't like his new hairdo. Most don't. Try that as an avenue of attack.

I'm done now.

djsimp · « **Reply #250 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:28:15 PM »

I would like to go back to a point made about Fairleys JUCO coaches. They obviously picked up on the fact that he could be a mean ass DL, which I sure glad they did. It reminds me of Karlos Dansby. Recruited as a WR but left Auburn as bad ass LB, who is still taking heads off in the NFL. Both of these are great examples of how one has no clue how a player will end up. I'd say these two are pretty damn happy about that change of postion.

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #251 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:31:34 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on February 10, 2011, 02:35:54 PM

The original concept is that "Tuberville would have used Fairley on the OL."

No, the original concept was a discussion of how Saban signed 56 and two/thirds players to fill openings in a roster of 85-or-maybe-less-or-maybe-more-spots-but-that-number-is-a-secret-so-fuck-off, and how he got pissy when someone challenged it at a presser.

So all y'all FAIL.

Sheeeeeit...

Godfather · « **Reply #252 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:32:22 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on February 10, 2011, 03:21:10 PM

You'll have to find other rocks to throw at Tuberville. Maybe you don't like his new hairdo. Most don't. Try that as an avenue of attack.

Amen, I would like to discuss this, I mean who is his fucking barber Howie Long? He needs to go back to the "do" he has in your avatar. It covers the ears.

Kaos · « **Reply #253 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:34:41 PM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on February 10, 2011, 03:28:15 PM

I would like to go back to a point made about Fairleys JUCO coaches. They obviously picked up on the fact that he could be a mean ass DL, which I sure glad they did. It reminds me of Karlos Dansby. Recruited as a WR but left Auburn as bad ass LB, who is still taking heads off in the NFL. Both of these are great examples of how one has no clue how a player will end up. I'd say these two are pretty damn happy about that change of postion.

Don't be ridiculous. No player ever recruited for offense transitions to defense.

djsimp · « **Reply #254 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:40:39 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on February 10, 2011, 03:34:41 PM

Don't be ridiculous. No player ever recruited for offense transitions to defense.

Damn it Kaos. Look at the depth chart.

It would be interesting to see the % of percentage of success from moving one side of the ball to the other, but I'm not gonna be the one going through that shit. I would have to say it would be easier to transition from offense to defense.

GH2001 · « **Reply #255 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:58:13 PM »

Quote from: Tiger Wench on February 10, 2011, 03:31:34 PM

No, the original concept was a discussion of how Saban signed 56 and two/thirds players to fill openings in a roster of 85-or-maybe-less-or-maybe-more-spots-but-that-number-is-a-secret-so-fuck-off, and how he got pissy when someone challenged it at a presser.

So all y'all FAIL.

Sheeeeeit...

Yeah, I said that above as well in fewer words.

And to snaggles post to Cliff Cobb.......helluva guy. I'd drink with Cliff Cobb anyday.

Legend has it that Nick and Cam have both sought the advice of Mr. Cobb.

Any man like Cliff Cobb, who can eat 52 goober pies in 1 sitting, gets the utmost respect. Knight the man already.

To Cliff Cobb!