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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2011, 01:27:12 PM »
Rumor has it -

We're going to use an anonymous booster to wire an extra $180k to Coach Grimes' checking out.  This payment will be divided into 12 sections.  Despite what you hear in the media, Coach Grimes will remain eligible to coach AT AUBURN. 

Just know that while Coach Grimes' agent has been part of these pay-for-coach conversations, Coach Grimes himself has not known anything about the discussions. 

Coach Grimes may spend one day away from the Auburn program, but he should be reinstated as coach as early as the next day.

The media will term it, "Grimes Crimes". When will the NCAA strip Auburn of their national title?  Film at 11:00
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2011, 11:41:40 AM »
I assume we know something today about this?


Thoughts on who Chiz goes after if he leaves?  I know that Chiz interviewed Wickline when he was putting his staff together.  Maybe we take another look at him?
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2011, 11:45:36 AM »
I assume we know something today about this?


Thoughts on who Chiz goes after if he leaves?  I know that Chiz interviewed Wickline when he was putting his staff together.  Maybe we take another look at him?

If I had any say, I'd have him look at Herb Hand.  Was with Gus at Tulsa, and coached OL at Vandy this last season.  He knows Gus' system, but originally learned "the spread" under Rich Rod, so he's got a diverse base. 
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2011, 12:19:15 PM »
If I had any say, I'd have him look at Herb Hand.  Was with Gus at Tulsa, and coached OL at Vandy this last season.  He knows Gus' system, but originally learned "the spread" under Rich Rod, so he's got a diverse base.
Just a thought. But I wonder how a wishbone guy would work out in a no-huddle system running the ball as we do and putting a premium on drive blocking? I don't know a thing about it, just asking. I know we zone block and might not have the personnel for it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2011, 12:24:52 PM »
Just a thought. But I wonder how a wishbone guy would work out in a no-huddle system running the ball as we do and putting a premium on drive blocking? I don't know a thing about it, just asking. I know we zone block and might not have the personnel for it.

We zone block, but Gus' bread and butter is gap blocking.  I have no desire to run the wishbone, or flexbone at AU, or in any way be a team that is a pure option team.   Nice tool to have in the tool box, buy no desire to be an option based offense.

Navy ran the hurry up no huddle with the flexbone this year. 
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2011, 12:26:34 PM »
I assume we know something today about this?


Thoughts on who Chiz goes after if he leaves?  I know that Chiz interviewed Wickline when he was putting his staff together.  Maybe we take another look at him?

I heard Hugh Nall was in Auburn.

I also heard he had lined up Dax Dallenbach to help with the special teams........
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2011, 12:28:03 PM »
I heard Hugh Nall was in Auburn.

I also heard he had line up Dax Dallenbach to help with the special teams........

You bastard

AND.....who started the play that won AU the National Championship????  Huh??  Anyone???

The deep snapper.  That's right. 
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2011, 12:29:03 PM »
You bastard

Well. They say if you are gonna go tard, go full tard.....

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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2011, 12:39:21 PM »
We zone block, but Gus' bread and butter is gap blocking.  I have no desire to run the wishbone, or flexbone at AU, or in any way be a team that is a pure option team.   Nice tool to have in the tool box, buy no desire to be an option based offense.

Navy ran the hurry up no huddle with the flexbone this year.
No, no. I was in no way asking for any such offense, just more of a mentality that could be matched with what we now run. I hate pure option. Never want to see it ever again in my lifetime. I can stomach it like watching grass grow when the mower won't start. I'm talking about some old fashioned country boy drive blocking as a compliment to "gap blocking.", or is that even possible?
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2011, 01:05:00 PM »
No, no. I was in no way asking for any such offense, just more of a mentality that could be matched with what we now run. I hate pure option. Never want to see it ever again in my lifetime. I can stomach it like watching grass grow when the mower won't start. I'm talking about some old fashioned country boy drive blocking as a compliment to "gap blocking.", or is that even possible?

I don't think anybody really "old school" blocks anymore since they started allowing the use of hands, at least not at the upper levels of football.  Wishbone guys use lots of cut blocking actually.  That's one of the reasons Weishbone disappeared from HS football years ago when they outlawed that in some places.   I don't think many folks are teaching the kind of blocking you're talking about anywhere any more. 
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2011, 01:10:55 PM »
Well. They say if you are gonna go tard, go full tard.....


That's fetish porn for Snagmansquire - hope nobody walks in on him "enjoying" that video, or he might be on hiatus again
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2011, 01:17:57 PM »
That's fetish porn for Snagmansquire - hope nobody walks in on him "enjoying" that video, or he might be on hiatus again

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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2011, 01:32:57 PM »
:bugs:

Kinda turned my stomach, not the video but, the thought of snaggle...
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2011, 01:41:52 PM »
I don't think anybody really "old school" blocks anymore since they started allowing the use of hands, at least not at the upper levels of football.  Wishbone guys use lots of cut blocking actually.  That's one of the reasons Weishbone disappeared from HS football years ago when they outlawed that in some places.   I don't think many folks are teaching the kind of blocking you're talking about anywhere any more.

We learned to block like that when I was in high school ('91-'95).  It sucked.  My senior year we learned the three point blocking technique (2 hands + face), well it was really 2 point, but we all learned on our own that it worked a lot better sticking your facemask in the other guys chest and driving.

But back to drive blocking, you can really get a defensive guy moving off the ball  that way, but if the defensive guy is any good at all you will be on your face after about two steps so some of the slower developing plays that we run will be in trouble.  Plus it is harder to disguise play action passing when the line if firing out on running plays putting a shoulder into a defender's hip on running plays and not on passing plays.
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2011, 01:45:20 PM »
We learned to block like that when I was in high school ('91-'95).  It sucked.  My senior year we learned the three point blocking technique (2 hands + face), well it was really 2 point, but we all learned on our own that it worked a lot better sticking your facemask in the other guys chest and driving.

But back to drive blocking, you can really get a defensive guy moving off the ball  that way, but if the defensive guy is any good at all you will be on your face after about two steps so some of the slower developing plays that we run will be in trouble.  Plus it is harder to disguise play action passing when the line if firing out on running plays putting a shoulder into a defender's hip on running plays and not on passing plays.
Thank-you.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2011, 01:58:48 PM »
We learned to block like that when I was in high school ('91-'95).  It sucked.  My senior year we learned the three point blocking technique (2 hands + face), well it was really 2 point, but we all learned on our own that it worked a lot better sticking your facemask in the other guys chest and driving.

But back to drive blocking, you can really get a defensive guy moving off the ball  that way, but if the defensive guy is any good at all you will be on your face after about two steps so some of the slower developing plays that we run will be in trouble.  Plus it is harder to disguise play action passing when the line if firing out on running plays putting a shoulder into a defender's hip on running plays and not on passing plays.

Another thing about "drive blocking" is that in college football, you're rarely going to have a G that can "drive" a 3 technique off the ball one on one, or a C that can drive a NG off the ball one on one.  The C will probably give up 20 or more pounds to a NG, and the G will at best be evenly matched, and in the case of a guy like Fairley, or Suh, wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell trying to block them straight up and one on one.  Remember, though the OL can use their hands, they have to keep them inside the frame, the DL can grab anything below the neck to get you off him.   The OTs could probably overpower DEs, if they played in a phone booth, but the DEs can out quick them if they don't use certain modern techniques.  Almost no running attack (none that I can think of above pee wee ball) utilize straight on, one on one blocking.  Zone blocking uses combos...get's double teams, and uses DL reaction movement to create lanes, and the back has to be coached how to run in a zone scheme.  Gus's gap schemes create double teams at the point of attack, gives OL a mechanical advantage of an angle block, and uses lots of kick out blocks with the Gs on counters, and the FB/HBack on the power play.  The key to OL play today is feet and hands. 
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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2011, 02:08:20 PM »
Two things....

1. Why make a lateral move to Texas?

and

2. phuk Texas...they can not keep their hands out of our cookie jar. Ever.
Another thing about "drive blocking" is that in college football, you're rarely going to have a G that can "drive" a 3 technique off the ball one on one, or a C that can drive a NG off the ball one on one.  The C will probably give up 20 or more pounds to a NG, and the G will at best be evenly matched, and in the case of a guy like Fairley, or Suh, wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell trying to block them straight up and one on one.  Remember, though the OL can use their hands, they have to keep them inside the frame, the DL can grab anything below the neck to get you off him.   The OTs could probably overpower DEs, if they played in a phone booth, but the DEs can out quick them if they don't use certain modern techniques.  Almost no running attack (none that I can think of above pee wee ball) utilize straight on, one on one blocking.  Zone blocking uses combos...get's double teams, and uses DL reaction movement to create lanes, and the back has to be coached how to run in a zone scheme.  Gus's gap schemes create double teams at the point of attack, gives OL a mechanical advantage of an angle block, and uses lots of kick out blocks with the Gs on counters, and the FB/HBack on the power play.  The key to OL play today is feet and hands. 
Now I'm actually learning something-truly, from the both of yous that are rarely discussed, mentioned as if "hey I can puppet the terminology", just not discussed beyond the what it is called. This is what I want to know about the game, not that there was a blown assignment or the too obvious.
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2011, 02:14:51 PM »
Now I'm actually learning something-truly, from the both of yous that are rarely discussed, mentioned as if "hey I can puppet the terminology", just not discussed beyond the what it is called. This is what I want to know about the game, not that there was a blown assignment or the too obvious.

Saw an interview a while back with John Riggins, and he was asked about the difference in the game today, and when he played 20 years ago.  He said "you didn't see anyone in my day playing without knee and thigh pads because the game was played much lower...they play standing straight up today."
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2011, 02:30:50 PM »
I've been reading Grimes has been back in Auburn since last night late. He has been discussing it over with Chizik. It seems Texas may have given him the weekend to make his decision.
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Re: Coach Grimes
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2011, 02:56:26 PM »
Holy shit....what a tight as...I mean spiral on those snaps.  Right on target every time.  The way he centered it up...took aim and then UUUNNHH...Bang!

I need a cigarette and a cold shower.
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