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Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies

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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #100 on: June 25, 2014, 01:45:20 PM »
I do not necessarily agree that it's criminal negligence as I read the Georgia Criminal Code. And I strongly disagree with your comparison to texting while driving it being comparable
Why? What's different? Both are extreme failure to pay a reasonable amount of attention to not result in the death of another human being.
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #101 on: June 25, 2014, 01:52:07 PM »
Would you be for court martial of all soldiers guilty in friendly fire incidents? All parties deserve jail time in accidental shootings, car wrecks, industrial accidents, etc.?

There is a big difference in starving a kid, imprisoning him in a closet, etc and forgetting you left him in the car seat.
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #102 on: June 25, 2014, 01:57:13 PM »
Would you be for court martial of all soldiers guilty in friendly fire incidents? All parties deserve jail time in accidental shootings, car wrecks, industrial accidents, etc.?

There is a big difference in starving a kid, imprisoning him in a closet, etc and forgetting you left him in the car seat.
I think you are seriously mixing apples and oranges here.

And no not all accidents. But he was responsible for this kid. The child is dead now by HIS actions, malicious or not. Actions have consequences. In this case, the action resulted in a child dying.

And with the video evidence popping up that he knew the kid was in the car, it looks even worse. Not sure how anyone can defend this asshat when he made a quick lunchtime trip to the car to see the kid.
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« Reply #103 on: June 25, 2014, 02:18:26 PM »
Why? What's different? Both are extreme failure to pay a reasonable amount of attention to not result in the death of another human being.

Criminal negligence is a higher standard.  Its more than accidental.  All vehicle accidents are negligence but we dont prosecute those criminally unless there is something more than innatentiveness.  Ie texting while driving or DUI. 
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« Reply #104 on: June 25, 2014, 02:19:42 PM »
I think you are seriously mixing apples and oranges here.

And no not all accidents. But he was responsible for this kid. The child is dead now by HIS actions, malicious or not. Actions have consequences. In this case, the action resulted in a child dying.

And with the video evidence popping up that he knew the kid was in the car, it looks even worse. Not sure how anyone can defend this asshat when he made a quick lunchtime trip to the car to see the kid.

He has consquences.  You want criminal consequences.
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #105 on: June 25, 2014, 02:23:58 PM »
I think you are seriously mixing apples and oranges here.

And no not all accidents. But he was responsible for this kid. The child is dead now by HIS actions, malicious or not. Actions have consequences. In this case, the action resulted in a child dying.

And with the video evidence popping up that he knew the kid was in the car, it looks even worse. Not sure how anyone can defend this asshat when he made a quick lunchtime trip to the car to see the kid.
There is no mixing. It's a question. And did the guy admit that he made the trip to the car to see the kid? I didn't read that anywhere. If so, that puts a totally different perspective than if he actually forgot the kid was in the car.

As you say, actions have consequences. So, I ask about the car accidents, friendly fire, etc. If you or someone you love has an accident and it kills someone, is jail time warranted? I assume everyone that can't understand how this could happen would say yes.

I am not defending this particular guy. I am defending people's rights to have a senior moment without jail time.
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« Reply #107 on: June 25, 2014, 04:02:41 PM »
And the newest developments make me question the written law for this type of case.

According to JR, the prosecution would have very little to use in terms of convicting him of any crime.  This seems like way too easy of a way for parents to kill their children.  Check the weather.  95.  Sunny.  Put child in car seat.  Go to work.  Come back at 5.  No more kids.  Just fake the tears and you're good to go.

If this guy intentionally did this to his kid, then he needs to fry next week.  But the scary thought is that if he did this intentionally, he should have skipped the last meal for the kid.  He would have gotten away with it and had the support of thousands of people some of whom have raised money for the guy. 
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« Reply #108 on: June 25, 2014, 04:25:53 PM »
In light of this new evidence, yes he deserves to die. Murder 1.
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #109 on: June 25, 2014, 05:00:25 PM »
Would you be for court martial of all soldiers guilty in friendly fire incidents? All parties deserve jail time in accidental shootings, car wrecks, industrial accidents, etc.?

There is a big difference in starving a kid, imprisoning him in a closet, etc and forgetting you left him in the car seat.


In almost all cases your engaged with the enemy in a hostile situation fearing for your life.

Bad example.  :facepalm:
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« Reply #110 on: June 25, 2014, 05:04:03 PM »
If they can prove intent...then yes....murder
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« Reply #111 on: June 25, 2014, 05:04:31 PM »
In light of this new evidence, yes he deserves to die. Murder 1.

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« Reply #112 on: June 25, 2014, 05:24:47 PM »


Told you they were searching for this very type of thing.  If its legit he will fry.
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #113 on: June 25, 2014, 05:30:35 PM »
If this mofo searched for "how long it takes to kill an animal in a hot car", then with the right grandparent/uncle/friend, there will be no need in debating the legal process.
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #114 on: June 25, 2014, 06:47:54 PM »

In almost all cases your engaged with the enemy in a hostile situation fearing for your life.

Bad example.  :facepalm:
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #115 on: June 26, 2014, 12:37:47 AM »
Shut your yap. The man's a hero by gawdd!

Yeah. That's what people are saying!

I have to believe in the premise of our system; innocent until proven guilty.

If we don't have that, then we might as well return to survival of the fittest.

If convicted and proven he knew his kid was in the car; lock that bitch in a hot box and bury it after five days in the sun!
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #116 on: June 26, 2014, 12:48:24 AM »
Death Penalty
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« Reply #117 on: June 26, 2014, 08:41:37 AM »
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« Reply #118 on: June 26, 2014, 10:15:39 AM »
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Re: Mother Leaves Baby in Car; Baby Dies
« Reply #119 on: June 26, 2014, 10:19:40 AM »
To good for him

Well that settles it. Zimmerman needs to die. He's obviously guilty. I mean, all of you said so...
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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.