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Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....

Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« on: November 18, 2013, 09:10:03 AM »
The Stats

Key Alabama statistics:

Rush defense:

91 yards per game
911 total yards
3.05 yards per carry
5 touchdowns
29.9 attempts per game by opponent*
3rd in the country in overall rush defense

Pass defense:
7 touchdowns
9 interceptions
181 yards per game
51.4% completion percentage
9th in the country in overall pass defense

Scoring defense:
10.2 points per game
1st in the country in scoring defense

Rush offense:
207 yards per game
5.78 yards per carry
21 touchdowns

Pass offense:
238 yards per game
67.5 completion percentage
23 touchdowns
5 interceptions
8.3 yards per pass

Key Auburn statistics:

Defense:
153 yards of rushing per game
4.26 yards per carry
16 touchdowns given up on the ground

100th ranked pass defense
253.7 yards per game
11 touchdowns
12 interceptions

3rd ranked rushing offense
320 yards per game
6.7 yards per carry
37 touchdowns

105th ranked passing offense
15 touchdowns
7 interceptions
179.6 yards per game

Scoring defense: 28th in the country with 22 points per game
Scoring offense:  15th with 39 points per game

We'll Lose, but Why We May Actually Win

(Skip down for the TL;DR if you feel the need to)

Sooo...with all of that written down - I feel like we're going to lose.  Now, before you x out the thread, this is a good thing that I believe we're going to lose. 

In 2004, I remember telling my friend that Auburn needed a new coach.  I was very naive at the time as my only college football experience was the 2003 season.  I told my friend that Saban was a mastermind (thanks to my father's doting of him) and that Tuberville shat the bed in 2003 and would never have a really good team.  Then we won.

Then in 2004, we played Georgia at home and I thought back to 2003 and how they demolished us.  I thought we'd lose.  Said we didn't really have a championship caliber team.  Then we annihilated them.

In 2006, we had just lost to Arkansas and I told the same friend from earlier that Florida was going to beat us pretty badly at home.  We won that one and it's the 2nd loudest game in history.

In 2007, I said that Holtz was right - if we went to Gainesville and won, he should run for senator.  We won.  Also in 2007, I traveled to Baton Rouge thinking that we'd maybe score 7 points against their defense.  We damn near won that one. 

In 2008, it was different.  I for some reason believed that each week we were going to turn the season around.  Even going into the Iron Bowl.  Maybe it was because I had attended the Tony Franklin clinic for high school football coaches the previous January, but I was all in with Franklin.  Then he was fired.  That's when I said that Tuberville and the staff would put together a basic offense that would ground and pound and let the defense take over.  I firmly believed we'd beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa and ruin their season.  We finished 5-7. 

In 2009, I thought we'd had a season similar to what 2012 was.  I had no faith in Gene "Iowa State" Chizik.  No faith in Malzahn's new style of offense especially after Tony Franklin.  I was shocked that we went to Tennessee and beat them so easily.  I was especially shocked when Alabama didn't blow us out in Jordan Hare.

In 2010, I never really bought into it being a championship season until the Georgia game.  I thought we'd lose quite a bit of games after the Miss State close call.  I really thought we were overrated but had a great quarterback after the Kentucky game.  I thought LSU would beat us.  I thought Georgia would beat us due to the distractions.  Though, after the Georgia game, I thought we'd run past Alabama, the SECCG and easily win the BCSCG.  At halftime of the Alabama game, I was close to turning it off because I thought we had no chance. 

In 2011, if you go back in the history of this board, you can find numerous threads where I displayed confidence that we could upset LSU in Baton Rouge.  We were laughed off the field. 

In 2012, I had no hope after the Clemson game and was pretty much spot on with that. 

In 2013, I thought we would lose going into the Ole Miss, Texas A&M, LSU, and Georgia games.  I thought LSU would blow us out.  I thought Georgia would beat us around 35-21 but that we did have a chance to win. 

Never would I have believed that we'd be up 27-7 against Georgia at halftime. 

TL;DR - My gut feeling and intuition has been pretty fucking wrong since I started following Auburn football. 

So what am I feeling going into the Iron Bowl?

I feel like we will struggle to contain TJ Yeldon because he's more quick than powerful.  We did well against Gurley because he tends to do well blowing through the line of scrimmage and using his sheer strength to rip through the defense.  Yeldon has more elusiveness, much like Alex Collins, except he's even more slippery.  Our linebackers struggle getting sideline to sideline, and Yeldon will make us pay.

Our defense as a whole struggles against the short yardage passing game.  10 yard outs, 7 yard curls - they kill us.  It's been easy to dink and dunk against Auburn, and Alabama has four playmakers at receiver than can kill us.

Offensively for us, Alabama's bread and butter is stopping the run game.  They have very fat, strong defensive linemen that run fit better than anyone in the country.  We will struggle getting Mason going.  The question becomes - can we get Marshall and Grant on the outside?  If this were against the Hightower defense, I may say maybe.  But this is the CJ Moseley and Depriest defense.  This is a much faster - at least sideline to sideline - defense that tackles very well on the perimeter. 

We also don't have a consistent passing game.  It isn't putrid like the pundits would have you believe, but Marshall's 229 yards were padded with a ball thrown into double coverage that was tipped into a miracle. 

Special teams is the only area I feel a bit confident, but I don't believe we've faced a returner like Christion Jones. 

Then, worst of all, there's the Bama luck factor.  You know what I mean - the fumblerooskies.  The tipped pass that lands directly into a Bama player's hands who has a straight line to the endzone.  The opponent botching the snap.  The miscues.  The suddenly dumbassery of the opposing coaching staff.  The fact that Alabama can fumble fifteen times against Miss State but MIss State was having to use their third string QB and couldn't capitalize at all.  We have to play smart football and not allow the Bama luck to get us.

To sum it all up, I feel like we're going to lose, and honestly, that makes me feel good about the game.  Go figure. 
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 09:42:11 AM »
The other key Alabama statistic:

Their defense has played:

Virginia Tech - They suck.
A&M - Similar to us, we have a better run game and a better defense, scored 42.
Colorado State - They suck
Ole Miss - Ran their mouth, not ready for prime time. Generally suck.
Georgia State - Sucks
Kentucky - Raw sewage sucks
Arkansas - sucks
Tennessee - sucks
LSU - had quit after the loss to Ole Miss
Mississippi State - down to a walk on cheerleader at QB.


There's not a single quality win on their schedule other than maybe LSU or A&M.  Their only real road game was A&M.  Played UT, Ole Miss, LSU and Arkansas at home. 

Other than A&M, there's not a decent offense on that board.  And 42.   

Maybe they do shut us down.  Maybe they do score 80. Talked to a friend today who I consider to be very level headed. He expects them to beat us 41-10. Not sure we'll get 10, though. Could be 55-3.  That's what they all think. 

Maybe that happens. 

Even if it does, look where we're headed.

We're one linebacker and one big play receiver from being unstoppable.  If our recruiting class stands, we have that coming in.

The seniors are few.

We lose Dee, Nosa, Holland, Davis and White on defense.  All are part of a rotation.  We lose Prosch on offense. We lose two kickers. 

The entire OL should be back.

Coates is a sophomore. He will get better. McKinzey and Frost are sophomores. 

It's called hope. No matter what happens in two weeks, we should have a lot of it.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 10:59:16 AM »
Oh I have plenty of hope. 

We get recruiting going in the right direction - and with Garner and Craig that's a foregone conclusion - and we're going to be in the top three in contention for the SEC for a long time. 

I agree with you about their schedule.  The big game I look at is A&M.  We don't have the ability to throw as well as Manziel, but I do like our running game a lot better.  I think we have a better "big play" defense, but when teams get going against us, we look pretty damn awful at times.

I see plenty of reasons to believe we can win.  I know we can.  This post was more for me to continue disbelieving, which I do disbelieve in honesty, that we can beat Alabama.  It's always worked the opposite for me.  If that means we win and I eat crow, please add salt and pepper to it. 

LSU not only quit against Ole Miss, they quit against Alabama.  Their gameplan was atrocious.  Let's line up and smash Alabama in the mouth despite knowing that Alabama struggles with offenses that show speed and despite knowing that our passing game worked in the 1st half.  Alabama just wore them down because that's what LSU wanted to happen in the game - wear each other down and see who comes out on top.  It failed.  It was a stupid gameplan. 

It's going to be a really interesting game.  I would be in awe of the greatness if they actually shut us down.  I'm on board with you from a previous post - this team has a few areas that are better than 2010.

For one, we are much, much faster on offense.  We may not hike the ball as fast as Oregon, but all that "They're just so fast!" talk in Eugene applies to us.  We can score very, very quickly and we have an uncanny ability to put a defense on their heels and then make them look silly. 

Can't wait.  No seriously, I can't fucking wait for these two weeks to end. 
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 11:11:21 AM »
I hope McCarron trips and breaks his dick against the Mocs.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 11:17:37 AM »
I hope McCarron trips and breaks his dick against the Mocs.

That would then affect his mother's va jay jay.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 11:24:08 AM »
That would then affect his mother's va jay jay.

I'd like to see his mother's va jay jay.  I understand many people have.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 11:26:47 AM »
I'd like to see his mother's va jay jay.  I understand many people have.

I hear she rents it out to pay for her son's tattoo fetish.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 11:36:43 AM »
I hear she rents it out to pay for her son's tattoo fetish.

Well, I'm not above trying to help a young man out.  I guess I could spunk her va jay jay if it's going for a good cause.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 11:42:28 AM »
We like it when y'all are down.  Y'all like it when we are down.  We hate y'all, y'all hate us.  Reasons be damned, those are the facts. 

But isn't it so much better when it's like this?  Isn't it better when both sides believe they can win?  Isn't it better when both fan bases really have the feeling that anything can happen (even if one side won't admit it)?

Excitement is a wonderful thing. 
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 11:44:00 AM »
We like it when y'all are down.  Y'all like it when we are down.  We hate y'all, y'all hate us.  Reasons be damned, those are the facts. 

But isn't it so much better when it's like this?  Isn't it better when both sides believe they can win?  Isn't it better when both fan bases really have the feeling that anything can happen (even if one side won't admit it)?

Excitement is a wonderful thing.

Yeah sure.  But what about AJ's mom's va jay jay?
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 11:52:39 AM »
Yeah sure.  But what about AJ's mom's va jay jay?

I live in South Alabama.  Step outside the front door and if the wind is blowing right you can smell the filthy thing most days. 
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 12:45:16 PM »
I live in South Alabama.  Step outside the front door and if the wind is blowing right you can smell the filthy thing most days.

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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 03:33:11 PM »
We like it when y'all are down.  Y'all like it when we are down.  We hate y'all, y'all hate us.  Reasons be damned, those are the facts. 

But isn't it so much better when it's like this?  Isn't it better when both sides believe they can win?  Isn't it better when both fan bases really have the feeling that anything can happen (even if one side won't admit it)?

Excitement is a wonderful thing.

As much as I want yall to limp into this game at 0-11 every year, I agree.  I haven't felt like this about the Iron Bowl in 3 years and dammit, it feels good!
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 03:36:57 PM »
As badly as I want to win this one, unless we do something about being soft on the run up the middle and the short zone pass across the middle we may be in for a long day.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2013, 06:39:22 PM »
TL;DR
I'll say this again, just like I said before the AUvsUGA game. UGA & uat hasn't faced an offense like Auburn's.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2013, 08:58:21 PM »
TL;DR
I'll say this again, just like I said before the AUvsUGA game. UGA & uat hasn't faced an offense like Auburn's.
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Re: Back to reality, oh'p! There goes gravity....
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2013, 07:11:58 AM »
TL;DR
I'll say this again, just like I said before the AUvsUGA game. UGA & uat hasn't faced an offense like Auburn's.
Dig...UGA forced us to attempt first half FGs. Our offense kept their offense in check by keeping it off the field and only when Murray started running did they gain a numbers advantage to open it up and it only continued because our offense sputtered in the second half to flip the script. Alabama will score points early if our offense allows them on the field. I think the UGA game will serve our offense well as a template against the Turds-keep the hammer down for five quarters!

Our offensive line has to play its best game to beat Alabama. You only had to see the look of helplessness on the faces of the UGA players during the first half. Our defense can only do so much to combat their talent on offense. Sure we can get a few key stops, bow up in the redzone and maybe they even shoot themselves in the foot a few times but the key is that our offense has to stay on the field. 
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