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Title: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Ogre on June 22, 2010, 03:13:53 PM
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Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Offshore Drilling Moratorium in Gulf of Mexico

A federal judge in New Orleans on Tuesday blocked a six-month moratorium on new deepwater drilling projects imposed in response to the massive Gulf oil spill.

The White House promised an immediate appeal. President Obama's administration had halted approval of any new permits for deepwater drilling and suspended drilling of 33 exploratory wells in the Gulf.

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make any sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."

Several companies that ferry people and supplies and provide other services to offshore drilling rigs asked U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman in New Orleans to overturn the moratorium, arguing it was arbitrarily imposed.

Feldman agreed, saying in his ruling the Interior Department seemed to assume that because one rig failed, all companies and rigs doing deepwater drilling pose an imminent danger.

"An invalid agency decision to suspend drilling of wells in depths of over 500 feet simply cannot justify the immeasurable effect on the plaintiffs, the local economy, the Gulf region, and the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country," Feldman wrote.

The moratorium was imposed after the April 20 explosion on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that killed 11 workers and blew out the well that has spewed millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf.

The Interior Department said it needed time to study the risks of deepwater drilling. But the lawsuit filed by Hornbeck Offshore Services of Covington, La., claimed there was no proof the other operations posed a threat.

Company CEO Todd Hornbeck said after the ruling that he is looking forward to getting back to work.

"It's the right thing for not only the industry but the country," he said.

The moratorium was declared May 6 and originally was to last only through the month. Obama announced May 27 that he was extending it for six months.

In Louisiana, Gov. Bobby Jindal and corporate leaders have said the moratorium will force drilling rigs leaving the Gulf of Mexico for lucrative business in foreign waters.

They say the loss of business will cost the area thousands of lucrative jobs, most paying more than $50,000 a year. The state's other major economic sector, tourism, is a largely low-wage industry.

In its response to the lawsuit, the Interior Department said the moratorium is necessary as attempts to stop the leak and clean the Gulf continue and new safety standards are developed.

"A second deepwater blowout could overwhelm the efforts to respond to the current disaster," the Interior Department said.

The government also challenged contentions the moratorium will lead to long-term economic harm. Although 33 deepwater drilling sites were affected, there are still 3,600 oil and natural gas production platforms in the Gulf.

Catherine Wannamaker, a lawyer for environmental groups that intervened in the case and supported the moratorium, called the ruling "a step in the wrong direction."

"We think it overlooks the ongoing harm in the Gulf, the devastation it has had on people's lives," she said. "The harm at issue with the Deepwater Horizon spill is bigger than just the Louisiana economy. It affects all of the Gulf."

Discuss.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 22, 2010, 03:15:33 PM
Great news. That is all.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Saniflush on June 22, 2010, 03:20:52 PM
Great news. That is all.

This
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 22, 2010, 03:24:11 PM
How about a moratorium on the moratorium on drilling closer in so this shit can be managed if something should go wrong?
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: JR4AU on June 22, 2010, 03:24:32 PM
Great news. That is all.

Don't y'all understand that stopping drilling will make things better?????????  
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 22, 2010, 03:45:02 PM
Don't y'all understand that stopping drilling will make things better?????????  

I'm making the commitment to go full-on green from this point forward.  No more dependence on oil and the mega-conglomerates making their billions.  I'm starting over completely.  I'm going to go out and buy a solar powered car. I think I'll commemorate my new attitude by draining the oil from my old clunker and holding a ceremony while I pour it into the stream in the woods down from my house.  Bye-bye oil.  May dump my old car battery in there too since I won't need it anymore.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: JR4AU on June 22, 2010, 03:52:17 PM
I'm making the commitment to go full-on green from this point forward.  No more dependence on oil and the mega-conglomerates making their billions.  I'm starting over completely.  I'm going to go out and buy a solar powered car. I think I'll commemorate my new attitude by draining the oil from my old clunker and holding a ceremony while I pour it into the stream in the woods down from my house.  Bye-bye oil.  May dump my old car battery in there too since I won't need it anymore.

This!
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Saniflush on June 22, 2010, 04:07:22 PM
I'm making the commitment to go full-on green from this point forward.  No more dependence on oil and the mega-conglomerates making their billions.  I'm starting over completely.  I'm going to go out and buy a solar powered car. I think I'll commemorate my new attitude by draining the oil from my old clunker and holding a ceremony while I pour it into the stream in the woods down from my house.  Bye-bye oil.  May dump my old car battery in there too since I won't need it anymore.


Your new lifestyle has struck a chord with me.  I'm going home right and empty out every aerosol can I can find.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 22, 2010, 04:23:42 PM

Your new lifestyle has struck a chord with me.  I'm going home right and empty out every aerosol can I can find.

I drove up beside a Prius yesterday in my Expedition to announce my intention of joining him in the green cause. I did a celebratory 1 minute revving of the V8 to make it official. 

FWIW - I have a German gas saver too so don't judge haters...
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 22, 2010, 04:51:38 PM
How about a moratorium on the moratorium on drilling closer in so this poop can be managed if something should go wrong?


:thumsup:
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: eagleair89 on June 22, 2010, 05:07:51 PM
I drove up beside a Prius yesterday in my Expedition ...........

you missed one helluva an opportunity there............recycling is environmentally friendly too!

(http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/smart%20car%20crash1.jpg)
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 22, 2010, 05:10:23 PM
you missed one helluva an opportunity there............recycling is environmentally friendly too!

(http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/smart%20car%20crash1.jpg)

This is why I like you EA. Never a great opportunity squandered with you. I salute you  :bar:
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: AWK on June 22, 2010, 08:33:49 PM
I got a chance to review this moratorium.  Whoever wrote this should be shot or fired.  Legally speaking, it is the worst motion I have ever read.  It is way too broad...and vague...and utterly stupid. 

Their reasoning behind the moratorium...wait for it...

Drilling is too dangerous...

Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 22, 2010, 08:58:37 PM
I got a chance to review this injunction.  Whoever wrote this should be shot or fired.  Legally speaking, it is the worst TRI I have ever read.  It is way too broad...and vague...and utterly stupid. 

Their reasoning behind the injuction...wait for it...

Drilling is too dangerous...



I am not sure I am following you. You are speaking of the injunction to get the moratorium lifted, correct? The moratorium being = Obama has halted drilling off the shelf for 6 months.

And you are saying the reason they want the moratorium lifted (which would allow the deep water drilling again) is because drilling is too dangerous? That makes no sense. It would make sense if you said that was the reason behind the moratorium, but being the reasoning behind the injunction?
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: AWK on June 22, 2010, 09:15:16 PM
I am not sure I am following you. You are speaking of the injunction to get the moratorium lifted, correct? The moratorium being = Obama has halted drilling off the shelf for 6 months.

And you are saying the reason they want the moratorium lifted (which would allow the deep water drilling again) is because drilling is too dangerous? That makes no sense. It would make sense if you said that was the reason behind the moratorium, but being the reasoning behind the injunction?
I meant to say moratorium.  Sorry, was reading and typing.  Fixed.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on June 22, 2010, 11:57:21 PM
I think I'll go green too.  I'm quitting my job selling plastics and going on one of the many federal entitlements that I am entitled to.  I will no longer need a car as i will no longer be driving to work.  I will however be keeping my air conditioning (don't think the red head will like living in a 90 degree house)
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GarMan on June 23, 2010, 08:51:40 AM
I got a chance to review this moratorium.  Whoever wrote this should be shot or fired.  Legally speaking, it is the worst motion I have ever read.  It is way too broad...and vague...and utterly stupid. 

Their reasoning behind the moratorium...wait for it...

Drilling is too dangerous... 

Careful there...  Liberal logic is not open for debate in the magical, wonderful world of The Obama. 
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 23, 2010, 10:03:08 AM
I meant to say moratorium.  Sorry, was reading and typing.  Fixed.

Aight...I just thought I had been drinking too early. Makes sense now....And yes - that is ridiculous. And the judge thought so too.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GarMan on June 23, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Aight...I just thought I had been drinking too early. Makes sense now....And yes - that is ridiculous. And the judge thought so too. 

This reminds me of the crap that was thrown around during all of the nuclear energy debates in the late '70s and early '80s.  It's all the same garbage again with a slightly different subject...  It's too dangerous...  It's too scary...  We don't know enough...  Etc, etc, etc...  RIDICULOUS is an extreme understatement! 
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Tiger Wench on June 23, 2010, 10:34:43 AM
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"An invalid agency decision to suspend drilling of wells in depths of over 500 feet simply cannot justify the immeasurable effect on the plaintiffs, the local economy, the Gulf region, and the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country," Feldman wrote.

The most logical thing I have ever read coming out of that court... but Feldman is spot on.

Todd Hornbeck is a business acquaintance.  Not surprised that he led the charge.  Hornbeck is a huge company in the GOM.  He has to be bleeding money right now. 
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: bottomfeeder on June 24, 2010, 07:31:37 AM
Floating shells and disoriented bull reds. Listen to this shit.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1110915/pg1 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1110915/pg1)

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/03/gulf.fishermans.wife/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/03/gulf.fishermans.wife/index.html)

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Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2010, 10:59:53 AM
Floating shells and disoriented bull reds. Listen to this poop.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1110915/pg1 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1110915/pg1)

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/03/gulf.fishermans.wife/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/03/gulf.fishermans.wife/index.html)

(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/cmicsfee.gif)

When you offer an alternative solution instead of 100% back seat driving, after the fact critiques, I may listen to you. If BP had used NO dispersant, you would be all over that too. I think you just like to play the other side for the hell of it.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Saniflush on June 24, 2010, 11:15:26 AM
When you offer an alternative solution instead of 100% back seat driving, after the fact critiques, I may listen to you. If BP had used NO dispersant, you would be all over that too. I think you just like to play the other side for the hell of it.

You know had Hitler not started a two front war he may have succeeded.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 24, 2010, 01:48:29 PM
When you offer an alternative solution instead of 100% back seat driving, after the fact critiques, I may listen to you. If BP had used NO dispersant, you would be all over that too. I think you just like to play the other side for the hell of it.

This, all of it. 



From the CNN article, The guy should have came home when the other shrimpers did.  If he felt sick, knowing that there had been an oil spill, had a nasty cough and then let it linger for three weeks before he went to a doctor, then I have no sympathy for him at all. Blame that on BP all you want, but that is his own fault for being sick.  He simply should have taken his ass to the doctor immediately instead of letting it linger.  But be proud, Captain Kickass is meeting with consultants to make sure he knows whose ass to kick.   Speaking of Captain Kickass, you have yet to acknowledge that BP is not the only one at fault.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Saniflush on June 24, 2010, 02:07:05 PM
This, all of it. 



From the CNN article, The guy should have came home when the other shrimpers did.  If he felt sick, knowing that there had been an oil spill, had a nasty cough and then let it linger for three weeks before he went to a doctor, then I have no sympathy for him at all. Blame that on BP all you want, but that is his own fault for being sick.  He simply should have taken his ass to the doctor immediately instead of letting it linger.  But be proud, Captain Kickass is meeting with consultants to make sure he knows whose ass to kick.   Speaking of Captain Kickass, you have yet to acknowledge that BP is not the only one at fault.

I can see it now. 
All the advertising on late night tv turns from let us sue for mesothelioma to "c'mon folks on the gulf,  didn't you smell something funny?"
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: AUTiger1 on June 24, 2010, 02:12:06 PM
I can see it now. 
All the advertising on late night tv turns from let us sue for mesothelioma to "c'mon folks on the gulf,  didn't you smell something funny?"

I thought about that the other night when I saw one of those commercials. 
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 24, 2010, 03:28:47 PM
Operators are standing by
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2010, 03:47:02 PM
I'M GONE SUE!!!
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 24, 2010, 04:40:46 PM
Not valid in some states.  Certain restrictions apply.  See your local dealer for details.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: dallaswareagle on June 24, 2010, 04:53:39 PM
This is my lawyer in Texas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3IhBf1rWx8&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3IhBf1rWx8&feature=related#)   
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: bottomfeeder on June 25, 2010, 06:11:39 AM
When you offer an alternative solution instead of 100% back seat driving, after the fact critiques, I may listen to you. If BP had used NO dispersant, you would be all over that too. I think you just like to play the other side for the hell of it.

I disagree. I read the MSDS on the Corexit 9527 and would not have used it. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I know how to read. If you own BP stock you can rest peacefully knowing that I am actively SHORTING it for you. LOL.

100% backseat driving?  :rofl:

I have a front row seat, thank you very much. I'd even make a hood ornament, too.

Allowing this to continue will result in many more deaths. I believe all of this is intentional because they (elite) want to take away the south's (little people's) independence and maybe kill of a few people (little people) in the process. Is it just coincidence that Tony "I want my life back" Hayward sold 1/3 of his BP stock just weeks before the incident? Is it also coincident that Goldman Sachs sold 44% of it's BP holdings three weeks before the incident? I don't think so. Notice I didn't use the word "accident" to describe the blowout, but chose instead to use the word incident.

I stand firm on this theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_poSdLJWsg&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_poSdLJWsg&feature=player_embedded#)

These people matter to me as I was raise in Mobile, Al and spent a great majority of my youth around charter boat captains. As former member of the Mobile Big Game Fishing Club I got to know many of these people as a child and teenager.



Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GarMan on June 25, 2010, 07:06:44 AM
I disagree. I read the MSDS on the Corexit 9527 and would not have used it. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I know how to read. If you own BP stock you can rest peacefully knowing that I am actively SHORTING it for you. LOL.

100% backseat driving?  :rofl:

I have a front row seat thank you very much. I'd even make a hood ornament, too. 

I don't disagree.  Backseat driving is exactly what you've been doing along with floating those goofy conspiracies.  You're doing nothing more than heckling the recovery/resolution attempts of a disaster.  Second-guessing and ridiculing each and every attempt at a solution.  Honest open discussion is one thing, but there's no room for that in your world.  (Similar is true of The Obama, by the way.)  You might as well be throwing rocks at firefighters rescuing children from a burning building... 
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: bottomfeeder on June 25, 2010, 07:30:34 AM
I don't disagree.  Backseat driving is exactly what you've been doing along with floating those goofy conspiracies.  You're doing nothing more than heckling the recovery/resolution attempts of a disaster.  Second-guessing and ridiculing each and every attempt at a solution.  Honest open discussion is one thing, but there's no room for that in your world.  (Similar is true of The Obama, by the way.)  You might as well be throwing rocks at firefighters rescuing children from a burning building...  

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Collusion is the same as conspiring. And YES, MMS and BP were in collusion. Do you doubt that? Have I been wrong?

So I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, so fucking what?

And, just because I can see through the lies doesn't make me a bad person, it's just makes me more money. A little research goes a long way in this corrupt world of liars and disinformation perps. The thing is if I'm wrong about something I usually pay for it by losing money in the market. However, what's obvious to all may not be the play I make. And, just because Warren Buffet buys it doesn't make me a buyer, but probably a seller.

It's not a game with me, but a gift I have. Sure, I have been wrong and failed, but I don't give up and many times I'm right.

Nazis in the CIA? Say it ain't so.

Quote
Another Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache, stated that she was not worried about negative ramifications the Israeli onslaught on Gaza might have on the way the Obama administration would view Israel. She said:

" You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can't criticize Israel. "

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-cia-and-the-nazis/ (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-cia-and-the-nazis/)
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 25, 2010, 09:58:35 AM
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Collusion is the same as conspiring. And YES, MMS and BP were in collusion. Do you doubt that? Have I been wrong?

So I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, so phuking what?

And, just because I can see through the lies doesn't make me a bad person, it's just makes me more money. A little research goes a long way in this corrupt world of liars and disinformation perps. The thing is if I'm wrong about something I usually pay for it by losing money in the market. However, what's obvious to all may not be the play I make. And, just because Warren Buffet buys it doesn't make me a buyer, but probably a seller.

It's not a game with me, but a gift I have. Sure, I have been wrong and failed, but I don't give up and many times I'm right.

Nazis in the CIA? Say it ain't so.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-cia-and-the-nazis/ (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-cia-and-the-nazis/)

You have a gift? Sure...did Alex Jones tell you that?

I am sure you are really affecting BP's stock tremendously by shorting it. Please don't flatter yourself.

See through lies? This is the funniest thing you posted. You have fallen hook, line and sinker for this administrations BS they are feeding you. Again - is BP at fault? Absolutely - YES. But there is PLENTY of blame to go around. Nevermind the fact that blame really shouldn't be going around at the moment but instead AFTER this shit is cleaned up.  Why don't you address this admin's lack of dropping the Jones Act or ignoring the int'l aid that was offered? Why did he not assemble the best engineers in the world from ALL countries who drill for oil? Why did he not drop the red tape fluff and give Governor Jindal and Riley the resources they needed over a month ago?

Why are you not asking these questions? You have simply followed Obama down a wrong path in attending Scapegoating 101. Cart before the Horse. And even then, the cart is the wrong one.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: bottomfeeder on June 25, 2010, 10:45:16 AM
You have a gift? Sure...did Alex Jones tell you that?

I am sure you are really affecting BP's stock tremendously by shorting it. Please don't flatter yourself.

See through lies? This is the funniest thing you posted. You have fallen hook, line and sinker for this administrations BS they are feeding you. Again - is BP at fault? Absolutely - YES. But there is PLENTY of blame to go around. Nevermind the fact that blame really shouldn't be going around at the moment but instead AFTER this shit is cleaned up.  Why don't you address this admin's lack of dropping the Jones Act or ignoring the int'l aid that was offered? Why did he not assemble the best engineers in the world from ALL countries who drill for oil? Why did he not drop the red tape fluff and give Governor Jindal and Riley the resources they needed over a month ago?

Why are you not asking these questions? You have simply followed Obama down a wrong path in attending Scapegoating 101. Cart before the Horse. And even then, the cart is the wrong one.

I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ADMINISTRATION! I have many sources from which I formulate my personal opinions. I do not take any one source as 100% accurate except the ancients. The ancients had no political agenda, therefore I have 100% trust is what they wrote.

$2500 profits in shorts on BP alone in May. Even more this month. Ewww, there goes another 5%.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:BP (http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:BP)



RON PAUL 2012! And, I love Governor Jindal. He's the best thing to happen to Louisiana since...BBQ shrimp.
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: Tarheel on June 25, 2010, 03:37:07 PM
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RON PAUL 2012! And, I love Governor Jindal. He's the best thing to happen to Louisiana since...BBQ shrimp.

Agreed.

Bobby Jindal, Chris Christie, or Jan Brewer 2012!
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: bottomfeeder on June 26, 2010, 01:44:25 PM
Back to the program

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37937049/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37937049/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/)
Title: Re: Federal Judge blocks offshore drilling moratorium
Post by: GH2001 on June 28, 2010, 03:10:46 PM




RON PAUL 2012! And, I love Governor Jindal. He's the best thing to happen to Louisiana since...BBQ shrimp.

You are one weird cat - but your last statement above makes complete sense for once. And I agree.