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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: RWS on January 26, 2010, 12:36:34 PM

Title: Spending Freeze?
Post by: RWS on January 26, 2010, 12:36:34 PM
What kind of bullshit is this? Total political move, if you ask me. I mean, it looks great on your resume when you go up for re-election, but in reality, it isn't going to accomplish dick. If he really was committed to cutting the deficit, he wouldn't have spent hundreds of billions of dollars over the past year. The deficit right now is around $1.3 trillion dollars. This new spending freeze bullshit MIGHT save $250 billion over 10 years. While I'm all about saving money, whats the point when we're spending it faster than it can be printed, and we're spending what we don't have anyway? Whatever savings we see from this spending freeze is just going to get spent. I don't see how anybody could really think this administration will actually throw that money saved at the deficit.

Here's an idea: QUIT SPENDING A SHITLOAD OF MONEY WITH NO PLAN TO BRING IN MONEY TO REPLACE IT. That should slash the deficit a little.
Title: Re: Spending Freeze?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 26, 2010, 02:08:54 PM
Let's see if this would work for me?

Let's say I make $100,000/year
I am currently spending $300,000/year
My get out of debt plans is that I will only spend $250,000/year

I should be out of debt in well NEVER
Title: Re: Spending Freeze?
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 26, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
What kind of bullpoop is this?

You just answered it.
Title: Re: Spending Freeze?
Post by: Tarheel on January 26, 2010, 03:03:24 PM
What kind of bullpoop is this? Total political move, if you ask me. I mean, it looks great on your resume when you go up for re-election, but in reality, it isn't going to accomplish tool. If he really was committed to cutting the deficit, he wouldn't have spent hundreds of billions of dollars over the past year. The deficit right now is around $1.3 trillion dollars. This new spending freeze bullpoop MIGHT save $250 billion over 10 years. While I'm all about saving money, whats the point when we're spending it faster than it can be printed, and we're spending what we don't have anyway? Whatever savings we see from this spending freeze is just going to get spent. I don't see how anybody could really think this administration will actually throw that money saved at the deficit.

Here's an idea: QUIT SPENDING A poopLOAD OF MONEY WITH NO PLAN TO BRING IN MONEY TO REPLACE IT. That should slash the deficit a little.

As you say Bullshit is all that this announcement was; politically motivated to triangulate The ONE back on a populist message.  You'll hear him preach on jobs and cutting spending for a while but it's all vacuous rhetoric fed from the Teleprompter in Chief.

Both The ONE and Juan McCain campaigned on cutting spending.  I recall The ONE repeatedly saying that he was going to go line-by-line, item-by-item in a most transparent manner to cut all wasteful government spending.  Well, we now know that was a load of horse manure.  How these clowns can justify spending 12 trillion dollars (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Figures-on-government-apf-2178072020.html?x=0&.v=2 (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Figures-on-government-apf-2178072020.html?x=0&.v=2)) to "fix the mess that they inherited" I can't fathom.  You can't fix the debts that Bush and the previous Congress left BY SPENDING 10 TIMES MORE THAN THEY DID!  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

I think DAVE RAMSEY needs to do a budget seminar on Capitol Hill and it ought to be MANDATORY for all of Congress and His Highness The ONE to attend...maybe they'll learn a little something, eh?
Title: Re: Spending Freeze?
Post by: Kaos on January 26, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Refresh my memory.

Didn't Neobama call McCain a "hatchet man" for proposing a spending freeze and vow that he would act with the precision of a surgeon?
Title: Re: Spending Freeze?
Post by: GH2001 on January 26, 2010, 10:53:15 PM
This is all by design. He knows exactly what he is doing. It will help him usher in his plan for a UN controlled world government. Hopefully, the folks can revolt first and it may be happening (see Massachusetts last week).
Title: Re: Spending Freeze?
Post by: Tarheel on January 27, 2010, 03:36:44 PM
Refresh my memory.

Didn't Neobama call McCain a "hatchet man" for proposing a spending freeze and vow that he would act with the precision of a surgeon?

I cannot find a proper citation about the "hatchet man" comment but from an anecdotal perspective I remember that comment being said by The ONE a number of times during the debates.

As late as May of last year I did find a commentator on The Politico.com writing about the annual Congressional Budget negotiations citing The ONE thusly as he announced his proposed $17 Billion in "cuts" (as opposed to his $1.2 TRILLION in "appropriations" back then):
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“Some of the cuts we're putting forward today are more painful than others,” Obama said. “Some are larger than others. In fact, a few of the programs we eliminate will produce less than a million dollars in savings. Outside of Washington, that's still a lot of money."

Nonetheless, after promising voters he would go through the budget line by line, Obama can’t mask what remains a steady, even historic, rise in spending under his administration. The twin volumes released Thursday morning capture the moment: 131 pages to describe his proposed savings, more than 1300 pages to spell out annual appropriations requests that will exceed $1.2 trillion once the added costs of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are added to the total.
...

As a sidebar to part of the above comment, wasn't The ONE supposed to end Iraq and Afghanistan...and Gitmo?

Anyway, here's that full article:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22213.html (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22213.html)
Title: Re: Spending Freeze?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 27, 2010, 10:38:59 PM
It's 100% a political move.  I'm not even upset about it.  It's typical of our government today on both sides of the aisle. 

The libs furiously accused Bush of having too much of a "laissez faire" attitude when it came to the national budget and the economy. 

So Obama wins by promising to be more hands on. 

When "hands on" proves to put the screwing of the country on accelerate and the people notice, Obama decides to announce a spending freeze.

Essentially, it's laissez faire without appearing to be laissez faire. 

I'd care a little more if I thought the country would see through it.  But they won't.  His numbers will go up tomorrow.