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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Birmingham on January 17, 2010, 04:17:31 AM
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Auburn:
vs. Arkansas State W
at Mississippi State W
vs. Clemson W
vs. South Carolina W
vs. Louisiana-Monroe W
at Kentucky W
vs. Arkansas W
vs. LSU Toss up
at Mississippi W
vs. Tennessee-Chattanooga W
vs. Georgia W
at Alabama Toss Up
11-1
Alabama:
SAN JOSE STATE W
PENN STATE Toss up
at Duke W
at Arkansas W
FLORIDA Toss up
at South Carolina W
OLE MISS Toss up
at Tennessee W
at LSU Toss up
MISSISSIPPI STATE W
GEORGIA STATE W
AUBURN Toss up
9-3 or 10-2
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Smokin' on Hay, in the middle of the barn.
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Auburn:
vs. Arkansas State W
at Mississippi State W
vs. Clemson W
vs. South Carolina W
vs. Louisiana-Monroe W
at Kentucky W
vs. Arkansas W
vs. LSU Toss up
at Mississippi W
vs. Tennessee-Chattanooga W
vs. Georgia W
at Alabama Toss Up
11-1
Alabama:
SAN JOSE STATE W
PENN STATE Toss up
at Duke W
at Arkansas W
FLORIDA Toss up
at South Carolina W
OLE MISS Toss up
at Tennessee W
at LSU Toss up
MISSISSIPPI STATE W
GEORGIA STATE W
AUBURN Toss up
9-3 or 10-2
So, is this the opinion of Birmingham, Vagisil, Masingill or Taint(ed)? Or is this a completely different personality we haven't met yet?
I only ask because there's no way in hell 3 of those 4 listed would ever come to the conclusion that Auburn only has 1 toss up game next fall.
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I would be happy with that. Seriously though I dont think bama ends up with 3 losses but I dont think they go undefeated. Auburn, I think, has a chance of ending up with the same record as bama. I see Arkansas and Georgia as a toss up game for Auburn to go along with bama.
What I am looking for to happening is Auburn and bama meeting at the end of the season to decide who goes to Atlanta. What an awesome Iron Bowl that will be.
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I only ask because there's no way in hell 3 of those 4 listed would ever come to the conclusion that Auburn only has 1 toss up game next fall.
I agree completely. As you can see I think there are two toss up games for Auburn.
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I agree completely. As you can see I think there are two toss up games for Auburn.
Change the number by 1 and my position remains the same. 2 toss up games and the rest wins?
There's no hope with dope.
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Change the number by 1 and my position remains the same. 2 toss up games and the rest wins?
There's no hope with dope.
I guess my opinion of Auburn football is more optimistic than yours. I think Auburn has a great schedule to work with next season and are bringing in the horses that will payoff in wins.
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Payback for his name back.
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I guess my opinion of Auburn football is more optimistic than yours. I think Auburn has a great schedule to work with next season and are bringing in the horses that will payoff in wins.
Even the prowler wouldn't predict 11-1 for Auburn next year. You've either received the prize for pick'em, or someone's hacked your account.
Payback for his name back.
Or this ^^^^.
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Even the prowler wouldn't predict 11-1 for Auburn next year. You've either received the prize for pick'em, or someone's hacked your account.
Or this ^^^^.
What do you think Auburn's record will be next year? Which games are toss ups? I admit anything can happen I'm just saying Auburn has the best of it in almost every match up next year.
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CHAMPIONSHP!!!!!!!!!!!!
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IFFFFF Cam Henderson, Tyrik Rollison (don't count out Trotter just yet either) and the QB play is anything Chris Todd level or better, we could possibly improve by a win or two. We might be bringing in some good talent to go with what'll be some veteran players, but there's still an experience gap all around. The defense being a little deeper will be the primary reason for the extra win or two.
I would predict a 9-3 season, with best hopes going 10-2 and it coming down to Auburn and Alabama for the West. In fact, I think it could come down to Auburn and Alabama for quite a few years the way things are shaping up. The wildcard in my opinioin is between LSU and Miss St. Yes, I said Miss St. IF Mullens stays, he'll make even half decent players servicable enough to make that team cause fits during the season.
Just my opinion.
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Auburn:
vs. Arkansas State W
at Mississippi State W
vs. Clemson Toss up
vs. South Carolina W
vs. Louisiana-Monroe W
at Kentucky W
vs. Arkansas Toss up
vs. LSU Toss up
at Mississippi W
vs. Tennessee-Chattanooga W
vs. Georgia Toss up
at Alabama Toss Up
At best, 4 toss up games. Possibly 5 considering Houston Nutt's ability to get talentless teams ready to upset people.
Auburn will be most likely be starting a quarterback who will only have a few months in the system. Also factor in the top returning running back is an injury plagued scat back in McCalebb. Dyer will need to step in and quickly learn a complex offense to help the backfield situation. And that defense is still shallow with unproven talent coming in for fall practice.
I'm not saying 11 wins is out of the question, I just don't think YOU really believe it's possible. There's an ulterior motive here, whether or not you want to admit it.
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I'm not saying 11 wins is out of the question, I just don't think YOU really believe it's possible. There's an ulterior motive here, whether or not you want to admit it.
Which would be???
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Auburn:
vs. Arkansas State W
at Mississippi State W
vs. Clemson Toss up
vs. South Carolina W
vs. Louisiana-Monroe W
at Kentucky W
vs. Arkansas Toss up
vs. LSU Toss up
at Mississippi W
vs. Tennessee-Chattanooga W
vs. Georgia Toss up
at Alabama Toss Up
At best, 4 toss up games. Possibly 5 considering Houston Nutt's ability to get talentless teams ready to upset people.
Auburn will be most likely be starting a quarterback who will only have a few months in the system. Also factor in the top returning running back is an injury plagued scat back in McCalebb. Dyer will need to step in and quickly learn a complex offense to help the backfield situation. And that defense is still shallow with unproven talent coming in for fall practice.
I'm not saying 11 wins is out of the question, I just don't think YOU really believe it's possible. There's an ulterior motive here, whether or not you want to admit it.
I think you're more right than wrong in your opinion here. I'd just inject that Mario Fannin will still be there. By most accounts, Aycock is nothing to scoff at in the backfield, regardless of what Dyer or other back brings. He's kind of a forgotten man in all of this, kind of like Trotter has been at QB. I think our running game will be fine. We should also have a very good offensive line unit next season.
As far as defense, most are back. I wouldn't consider Bates, Washington and Thorpe unproven either. Bynes and Freeman will be there. With Carter and Fairly on the line, along with Dee Ford... If we made it on the shallow talent we had this year, there should be ZERO excuse next season. Experience maybe in one or two places, but no overall depth excuses.
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I'll go ahead and state, for the record...(8-4) or (9-3).
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I think you're more right than wrong in your opinion here. I'd just inject that Mario Fannin will still be there. By most accounts, Aycock is nothing to scoff at in the backfield, regardless of what Dyer or other back brings. He's kind of a forgotten man in all of this, kind of like Trotter has been at QB. I think our running game will be fine. We should also have a very good offensive line unit next season.
As far as defense, most are back. I wouldn't consider Bates, Washington and Thorpe unproven either. Bynes and Freeman will be there. With Carter and Fairly on the line, along with Dee Ford... If we made it on the shallow talent we had this year, there should be ZERO excuse next season. Experience maybe in one or two places, but no overall depth excuses.
The 1's won't be the problem on Auburn's defense, it'll be the 2's. The unproven talent I'm speaking of is in regards to the kids who haven't signed yet.
There are a lot of question marks on the 2010 Auburn team that will have a major impact on the season. To predict 10 or 11 wins with that many question marks is going out on a limb. Things could fall perfecting into place and it could happen, I'm just saying that I'll have to see how Auburn looks in the Clemson game before I will believe they have a chance at that many wins.
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Auburn:
vs. Arkansas State W
at Mississippi State W
vs. Clemson Toss Up (I like Dabo, and they have some offensive talent)
vs. South Carolina Toss Up (Good defense every year 1st half of season. Could easily shut us down)
vs. Louisiana-Monroe W
at Kentucky W
vs. Arkansas Toss Up (Their offense is extremely tough to stop)
vs. LSU W (I think Miles is heading down the toilet. We'll put together a gameplan like Ole Miss 2009)
at Mississippi W
vs. Tennessee-Chattanooga W
vs. Georgia W
at Alabama Loss (At Alabama? Damn...poor timing)
8-4 to 10-2
Alabama:
SAN JOSE STATE W
PENN STATE W
at Duke W
at Arkansas W
FLORIDA Loss (If Urban returns with a good defensive coordinator, they'll be just fine)
at South Carolina W
OLE MISS W
at Tennessee W
at LSU W
MISSISSIPPI STATE W
GEORGIA STATE W
AUBURN W
11-1
Way too early to be doing this. I pretty much predicted these wins/losses based on Auburn and Alabama getting better, and the other teams remaining remotely the same as 2009.
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I think you're more right than wrong in your opinion here. I'd just inject that Mario Fannin will still be there. By most accounts, Aycock is nothing to scoff at in the backfield, regardless of what Dyer or other back brings. He's kind of a forgotten man in all of this, kind of like Trotter has been at QB. I think our running game will be fine. We should also have a very good offensive line unit next season.
As far as defense, most are back. I wouldn't consider Bates, Washington and Thorpe unproven either. Bynes and Freeman will be there. With Carter and Fairly on the line, along with Dee Ford... If we made it on the shallow talent we had this year, there should be ZERO excuse next season. Experience maybe in one or two places, but no overall depth excuses.
I don't know that depth is solved in one class. It's possible, but just having more bodies doesn't guarantee anything. They are unproven (sure to be dome flops in the class) and no matter what they are young. To me, this class and the next start to solve depth for 2012. They'll add to the depth, for sure, but they will come with mental mistakes and blown coverages, etc.
I think 7 regular season wins would have to be a big disappointment. 10 regular season wins will be pretty special.
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Which would be???
As if it isn't obvious to everyone, you're trying to have a thread to point back to to say Auburn underperformed to your expectations.
It's been done.
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I don't know that depth is solved in one class.
It is if it's a bogus excuse.
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As if it isn't obvious to everyone, you're trying to have a thread to point back to to say Auburn underperformed to your expectations.
It's been done.
:rolleyes:
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It is if it's a bogus excuse.
you may back off of it...but are saying that depth wasn't a legitimate issue this year on defense? I feel like you always imply it wasn't even something to factor into the problems. Sure, it wasn't the only story on defense. But when you are starting a true freshman (strictly because he's the only scholarship player left) and the first LB off the bench is a walk on....that is a serious depth problem. I read somewhere else this year that Auburn was the only D-1 program with three scholarship LBs on the roster.
I know part of your stance comes in response to people that act like that was the ONLY issue on defense. But still, it was a huge issue and one that contri uted to many of the other issues. If the incoming freshman are really good and make a huge impact, that won't change what was a fact for the 2009 team...that we had deficiencies on defense like I've never seen since following closely since I was at Aubrun in 1993.
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you may back off of it...but are saying that depth wasn't a legitimate issue this year on defense? I feel like you always imply it wasn't even something to factor into the problems. Sure, it wasn't the only story on defense. But when you are starting a true freshman (strictly because he's the only scholarship player left) and the first LB off the bench is a walk on....that is a serious depth problem. I read somewhere else this year that Auburn was the only D-1 program with three scholarship LBs on the roster.
I know part of your stance comes in response to people that act like that was the ONLY issue on defense. But still, it was a huge issue and one that contri uted to many of the other issues. If the incoming freshman are really good and make a huge impact, that won't change what was a fact for the 2009 team...that we had deficiencies on defense like I've never seen since following closely since I was at Aubrun in 1993.
You know like 90% of the time I'm fucking around, right?
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You know like 90% of the time I'm fucking around, right?
That old line... :taunt:
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That old line... :taunt:
If you couldn't tell I was trolling for a brain fart with that line then you really need to work on your powers of perception.
And it's true. The vast majority of the time, I'm merely amusing myself.
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You know like 90% of the time I'm phuking around, right?
I do know, but the other 10% is interesting too.
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As for our record next season...we're mostly going on names (of programs) until we've really gone through who each team losses and who they have coming back and things like that.
Ultimately I think next year will look a like lot last year in that there will probably be groups of games. There will be the "should wins", the "probable losses", and the "toss up" games. Those categories will be proportioned differently this year, but just like last year, the toss ups will be the difference in 8 wins or more.
Yeah, this post deserves a big "duh", because everything I just wrote is the same for every team every year. But the thing is, as we get better, the # of games in each category should shift. Right now we're in a place of too many toss ups. Alabama and Florida are in a place of 1 or 2 toss ups, not 4 or 5. We win 4 of our 5 toss ups and we may get back to that level.
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If you couldn't tell I was trolling for a brain fart with that line then you really need to work on your powers of perception.
And it's true. The vast majority of the time, I'm merely amusing myself.
That sounds like a good cop out to me when you get caught in the paradigm of your own argument. By the way - this is one of those 90% in which I am just "messin around".... :poke:
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That sounds like a good cop out to me when you get caught in the paradigm of your own argument. By the way - this is one of those 90% in which I am just "messin around".... :poke:
Seriously? If you can't tell that throwaway line was nothing but trolling for a rampage.... there are medicines you can take.
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Seriously? If you can't tell that throwaway line was nothing but trolling for a rampage.... there are medicines you can take.
What? You can't tell I was messing around with you? :)
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What? You can't tell I was messing around with you? :)
If you can't tell that I can't tell that you can't tell when I'm kidding around about you kidding around about me kidding around about Kaos kidding around, then....
...I just feel sorry for you.
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What? You can't tell I was messing around with you? :)
I am walking away from this now. Our lines are tangled.
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I am walking away from this now. Our lines are tangled.
Don't cross the streams Ray. Crossing the streams would be bad.....