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Title: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 04, 2009, 12:22:49 PM
http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/1209/684137.html (http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/1209/684137.html)

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Pelham, Ala. - A Pelham police officer has died after being shot overnight.

The officer, whose name has not yet been released, was conducting a traffic stop along the northbound lanes of Interstate 65 near milemarker 243.  The highway was shut down in both directions for several hours and remained close at the start of morning rush-hour.

Authorities removed the officer's patrol car from the side of the highway around 6:20 a.m. Friday.
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Hoover Police took two people into custody in connection with the shooting around 1:30 Friday morning.  Authorities also found a suspect vehicle, a silver Acura TL, near 43rd Avenue North and Inglenook Street in Birmingham.

Pelham police say the white male taken into custody will be identified after formal charges have been fired.  Right now the shooting is being investigated as a murder of a police officer.

Lifesaver helicopter had been dispatched to the shooting scene in Pelham moments after the gunfire, but the officer was taken by ambulance to UAB hospital with a police escort.  Authorities confirmed shortly after 6:00 a.m. that the officer had died.

Right now, there is no word on the nature of the traffic stop that led to the shooting.  The traffic stop took place in a stretch of highway that is undergoing major construction.

ABC 33/40 is continuing to follow this story and will have updated developments on-air and online.

Name hasn't been released publicly, but he was a friend of a friend (who is also an officer.)  Left behind a wife and 3 month old from what I understand.

Not much info besides it was a routine stop late at night in that construction zone on I65.  I live in Pelham, and passed where it happened this morning on the way to work as there were still a few cars on the scene.  :(
Token... be careful buddy.  I have a lot of friends who are in law enforcement... it could have been any one of them, and honestly, I've had my max for funerals this year.  :sad:

As my facebook status says.... there are not punishments in place today fitting for those that kill the ones who protect us.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Jumbo on December 04, 2009, 02:12:49 PM
Thats so fucked up, I hope they fry the bastard responsible. Prayers go out to the family.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 02:24:27 PM
Thats so fucked up, I hope they fry the bastard responsible. Prayers go out to the family.

This
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 02:58:23 PM
Prayers go out regardless...

I used to work with a couple of Pelham PD guys at another dept.  I still have no word on who it is at this point, but chances are I don't know him if he worked midnights, and I hope it's not a friend. 
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 04, 2009, 03:06:55 PM
The officer was Phillip Davis.
I cannot figure out though, why in the hell the brother of a Police Officer would be able to shoot another officer.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2009/12/pelham_police_officer_slain_su.html (http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2009/12/pelham_police_officer_slain_su.html)
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 03:24:49 PM
The officer was Phillip Davis.
I cannot figure out though, why in the hell the brother of a Police Officer would be able to shoot another officer.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2009/12/pelham_police_officer_slain_su.html (http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2009/12/pelham_police_officer_slain_su.html)

I won't speculate on what it is, but obvously something unknown about this "perfect family man" will fall out of the closet here real soon.  

Thank God it wasn't someone I knew, but still very, very tragic!
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 04, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
OK... now this is just weird. 

Now it really makes no sense.  I mean, I have a string of traffic violations, I've even been arrested for going 167 in a 55 on the inside shoulder, and I would never shoot a cop.  And I don't have a brother who is a police officer.

What the hell?  I think a whoooooole story on BOTH sides of this is about to come out over the next few days/weeks. :(
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 04:11:49 PM
OK... now this is just weird. 

Now it really makes no sense.  I mean, I have a string of traffic violations, I've even been arrested for going 167 in a 55 on the inside shoulder, and I would never shoot a cop.  And I don't have a brother who is a police officer.

What the hell?  I think a whoooooole story on BOTH sides of this is about to come out over the next few days/weeks. :(

BOTH sides?  You think the Police Officer and this guy knew each other or something?  My bet is "perfect family man pharmacist dude" was about to be exposed in some way (drugs, affair, gay affair), and panicked in the worst possible way.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 04, 2009, 04:46:53 PM
You know the media won't leave him and his family out of it, victim or not.

Why would they take his brother (cop) into custody as well? 

Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
You know the media won't leave him and his family out of it, victim or not.

Why would they take his brother (cop) into custody as well? 



It's Alabama...unless the cop was dirty for sure, they'll make him a hero.  I've heard others speculate about "personal shit"...I guess it's not out of the question, but my money is on "perfect family man" panicked at the thought of his fairy tale life coming crashing down if he got stopped.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 04, 2009, 05:18:49 PM
It's Alabama...unless the cop was dirty for sure, they'll make him a hero.  I've heard others speculate about "personal shit"...I guess it's not out of the question, but my money is on "perfect family man" panicked at the thought of his fairy tale life coming crashing down if he got stopped.

Either way... it's sad, and it's just not right.

I guess I would just prefer an outright criminal, someone that I can mindlessly send to the chair in my imagination and not feel anything but grateful that the streets are one moron safer. Some white boy with tattoos on his neck in a stolen car with 20 kilo's of booger sugar in the back seat.... then I can feel SAFER knowing he's gone.

I don't know that I feel safer knowing a pharmacist gets the death chair.  It just makes me wonder which one of MY "normal" neighbors is a future cop killer. :(

Gray areas.... they're a bitch.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 05, 2009, 12:00:21 PM
You know the media won't leave him and his family out of it, victim or not.

Why would they take his brother (cop) into custody as well? 
Maybe the brother tried to help him get away instead of turning him in?  Maybe he was with the bad guy when he was caught? 
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: CCTAU on December 07, 2009, 08:30:51 AM
Sad situation. My niece was friends with Davis. This shook her up. I've always stated I would get nothing done as a cop. I would be too busy filling out reports that I pulled my weapon AGAIN to tap on the window while asking for ID. No one can be trusted.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Token on December 07, 2009, 09:21:23 AM
Maybe the brother tried to help him get away instead of turning him in?  Maybe he was with the bad guy when he was caught? 

Don't know how true it is, but this is what I'm hearing.  Brother is saying he was turning him in, but they were caught on a traffic stop.

Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: JR4AU on December 07, 2009, 12:48:47 PM
Don't know how true it is, but this is what I'm hearing.  Brother is saying he was turning him in, but they were caught on a traffic stop.



That's what's being reported.  It's plausible since they were stopped in Hoover I guess.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 07, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
I didn't know him personally (just a few friends that did) but I used to see him every month or so at the gas station around the corner.  The police station is a mile from where I live, so I use the same gas station the cops go to.  It's how I "know" any of the cops around here... and I'm fairly certain they all know which car is mine.  :blink:
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: CCTAU on December 07, 2009, 05:02:59 PM
I didn't know him personally (just a few friends that did) but I used to see him every month or so at the gas station around the corner.  The police station is a mile from where I live, so I use the same gas station the cops go to.  It's how I "know" any of the cops around here... and I'm fairly certain they all know which car is mine.  :blink:

YUGO?
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 07, 2009, 05:16:55 PM
YUGO?

Close.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Token on December 07, 2009, 10:59:02 PM
The only thing that upsets me more than an officer being killed in the line of duty is the children he/she leaves behind. I know I'm biased here, but those children should have a college fund granted to them right now. Those kids will live their entire life without knowing their father. Not having their father there to send them to school on their first day. Not having their father to watch them at their first sporting event. Not having their father to watch them walk across the stage of their high school graduation or having their father standing beside them on their wedding day.

The absolute very least this country owes this officer, who gave his life in the line of duty, is the very best opportunity for his children to have successful lives. The very least this country owes the children of this fallen officer is the same free college education awarded to any poverty stricken child who is fed and clothed by the state because their sorry ass parents don't want to work for a living.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 08, 2009, 12:00:16 AM
The only thing that upsets me more than an officer being killed in the line of duty is the children he/she leaves behind. I know I'm biased here, but those children should have a college fund granted to them right now. Those kids will live their entire life without knowing their father. Not having their father there to send them to school on their first day. Not having their father to watch them at their first sporting event. Not having their father to watch them walk across the stage of their high school graduation or having their father standing beside them on their wedding day.

The absolute very least this country owes this officer, who gave his life in the line of duty, is the very best opportunity for his children to have successful lives. The very least this country owes the children of this fallen officer is the same free college education awarded to any poverty stricken child who is fed and clothed by the state because their sorry ass parents don't want to work for a living.
Where do I sign up to support this?
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: CCTAU on December 08, 2009, 10:02:18 AM
The only thing that upsets me more than an officer being killed in the line of duty is the children he/she leaves behind. I know I'm biased here, but those children should have a college fund granted to them right now. Those kids will live their entire life without knowing their father. Not having their father there to send them to school on their first day. Not having their father to watch them at their first sporting event. Not having their father to watch them walk across the stage of their high school graduation or having their father standing beside them on their wedding day.

The absolute very least this country owes this officer, who gave his life in the line of duty, is the very best opportunity for his children to have successful lives. The very least this country owes the children of this fallen officer is the same free college education awarded to any poverty stricken child who is fed and clothed by the state because their sorry ass parents don't want to work for a living.

I would love to have an organization that does this, but I do not want to see public money for it. There are a lot of bad people in the world, and sometimes they are cops. If this is a government program, then it will cover everyone just like a union program. If this is a private org, then they can choose. I know we should be "thinking of the kids", but there are many men out there whose kids suffer due to the sins of the father.  Also, we have many soldiers who are in unfamiliar places fighting for people they have never met, and they do not have a program like this. So, I would love to see it, but for it to be a private org. the men who put their life on the line to keep us safe should get a few more benefits. It may be that if your father was killed int he line of duty, you get an extra bonus in qualifying for college aid regardless of your current income level. That, I think would be fair compared to the deadbeats that get free money for nothing. But I also thin this should be for all police and military.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 08, 2009, 10:04:18 AM
I would love to have an organization that does this, but I do not want to see public money for it. There are a lot of bad people in the world, and sometimes they are cops. If this is a government program, then it will cover everyone just like a union program. If this is a private org, then they can choose. I know we should be "thinking of the kids", but there are many men out there whose kids suffer due to the sins of the father.  Also, we have many soldiers who are in unfamiliar places fighting for people they have never met, and they do not have a program like this. So, I would love to see it, but for it to be a private org. the men who put their life on the line to keep us safe should get a few more benefits. It may be that if your father was killed int he line of duty, you get an extra bonus in qualifying for college aid regardless of your current income level. That, I think would be fair compared to the deadbeats that get free money for nothing. But I also thin this should be for all police and military.
^^^This^^^
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: JR4AU on December 08, 2009, 10:40:46 AM
I haven't policed in right about 10 years now, but it seems there are or were some benefits for children of slain police officers.  In AL there is no police union, so most are members of the FOP and/or the PBA which also has death benefits for the family in addition to any life insurance the officer had.  

This group: http://www.nationalcops.org/ (http://www.nationalcops.org/) provides a range of services, including scholarships for families that have lost a loved one in the line of duty.  The site shows what the state benefits are, and I think there are federal benefits too. 
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Token on December 08, 2009, 10:57:55 AM
I haven't policed in right about 10 years now, but it seems there are or were some benefits for children of slain police officers.  In AL there is no police union, so most are members of the FOP and/or the PBA which also has death benefits for the family in addition to any life insurance the officer had.  

This group: http://www.nationalcops.org/ (http://www.nationalcops.org/) provides a range of services, including scholarships for families that have lost a loved one in the line of duty.  The site shows what the state benefits are, and I think there are federal benefits too. 

The FOP and PBA are great organizations, no doubt.  There are programs out there, but they are not enough, in my opinion.  I know two people right now who had their husbands killed in the line of duty and neither have received a dime from anyone.  Both are fighting (with attorneys) to get funds from programs their husbands were paying weekly to be in. 

And I agree, it should also include military.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 08, 2009, 04:13:13 PM
I totally forgot - there is a private organization here in Houston called The 100 Club that does exactly that.  Covers firemen too.  You guys should start one in AL.  Bet if someone wrote them asking for organizational help, they would oblige.

http://www.the100club.org/home.html (http://www.the100club.org/home.html)

Established in Houston, Texas in 1953, The 100 Club is a well-recognized organization within the communities it serves. The 100 Club began when 100 men, each contributing $100, wanted to help the families of Houston Police Officers who were killed in the line of duty.

    The effort put forth by these men has developed into over a half century of support for law enforcement in not only Harris County, but seventeen surrounding counties – Austin, Brazoria, Brazos, Burleson, Chambers, Colorado, Fayette, Fort Bend, Galveston, Grimes, Liberty, Madison, Montgomery, San Jacinto, Walker, Waller, and Washington counties. In October 2001, The 100 Club reached another milestone in its history by providing benefits to the dependents of Firefighters killed in the line of duty.

    The continued growth of The 100 Club is only possible through its members and donations made from the community. Your membership helps The 100 Club continue to support the Law Enforcement Officers and Firefighters that protect you.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 09, 2009, 11:15:43 AM
Our local Nissan / Infiniti group is talking about holding a December fundraiser to donate to Officer Davis's Fund.

Hope we finish getting it organized.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: CCTAU on December 09, 2009, 01:00:28 PM
Our local Nissan / Infiniti group is talking about holding a December fundraiser to donate to Officer Davis's Fund.

Hope we finish getting it organized.

There are people who own Nissan's and admit it?
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: JR4AU on December 09, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
There are people who own Nissan's and admit it?

And apparently must band together as a group for moral support too.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 09, 2009, 02:31:23 PM
Mostly 350z's and G35's.
Title: Re: Pelham Police officer shot and killed last night...
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 09, 2009, 02:56:07 PM
And apparently must band together as a group for moral support too.

(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID4616/images/stuart_smalley.jpg)