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Title: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on December 03, 2009, 12:09:54 PM
I thought he had nothing to do with the Outback Bid?

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091203/SPORTS0402/912030339/1002/sports/Some-of-the-best-drama-comes-before-bowl-games (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091203/SPORTS0402/912030339/1002/sports/Some-of-the-best-drama-comes-before-bowl-games)

Auburn officials =  JJ and the Athletic dept


Is this a great bowl season or what?



 

The games don't begin for 16 days, but the plot already has taken more turns than a Ste­phen King novel. Nowhere is the excitement more gripping than in the Southeastern Conference, where half a dozen teams fin­ished with 7-5 records and find themselves lobbying for better bowl position.

The competition has been fierce.

After all, the right bowl can create advantages that last for years. Power is rooted in re­cruiting. Recruiting, in many ways, is rooted in exposure.

Bigger bowls with attractive dates and more national exclu­sivity can help create buzz throughout the recruiting world. Prospects know which programs are making progress.

They also can see which teams are sliding.

The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves.

If everyone is 7-5, it takes more than a record to curry fa­vor.

Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons.

The Tigers didn't care. They wanted to be in Tampa.

And they apparently made it work.

Auburn officials had three novel elements working in their favor. Coach Gene Chizik is a native of nearby Clearwater, Fla., and courted his wife there during the early 1990s. It's a good story.

Gus Malzahn's offense is ex­citing, innovative and notewor­thy. It's a good story.

Auburn's fan base, excluded from the postseason fray in 2008, is enthusiastic about the team's renaissance. If Chizik somehow could move his team into a New Year's Day bowl during his first season, fans would feel even more strongly about making the trip to Florida.

Everything was in place. Outback Bowl officials, who ini­tially felt compelled to invite Tennessee, instead worked with officials from the Chick-fil-A Bowl and found the Vols a closer postseason home.
(2 of 2)


Other bowls with SEC tie-ins made their agreements as well. Georgia settled with the Inde­pendence Bowl. South Carolina (Papajohns.com Bowl), Arkan­sas (Liberty Bowl) and Ken­tucky (Music City Bowl) learned their fates as well.



Announcements were pre­pared. They were scheduled to occur Tuesday.

Then the SEC office inter­vened.

It put a moratorium on final agreements because of a poten­tial snag. Officials from the Bowl Championship Series were unwilling to guarantee a BCS berth for the loser of Satur­day's SEC Championship game.

Florida is No. 1. Alabama is No. 2.

The lesser of those two teams surely is worthy of a top-tier bowl -- each would be consid­ered a favorite in the national ti­tle game -- but the BCS refused to provide a guarantee.

The move appears to be polit­ical.

A group of politicians voiced concerns earlier this year about the BCS and its relevance. A simple House resolution created to commend Florida on its 2008 BCS championship elicited 12 votes of either "no" or "pres­ent." Some still believe a playoff remains the only equitable way to determine a championship.

Those critics believe the BCS wields too much control.

So the BCS officials played it smart with the SEC by declining to promise anything. They said the games determine all and, at least in their own mind, took a stand against their critics by holding out.

Maybe it will work. Maybe one critic will change position.

Still, Alabama and Florida will finish their seasons in BCS bowls. The deals hammered out throughout the SEC earlier this week, currently delayed by the possibility of accommodating a BCS castoff, will stick.

A week of ticket sales will be lost. So it goes.

Who says the best drama is saved for the field?
Next
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2009, 12:15:22 PM
While I do believe the Athletic Director known as JJ did partake in the Bowl Agreements, this article doesn't really talk about his involvement.  - Jus sayin :poke:
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on December 03, 2009, 12:22:08 PM
While I do believe the Athletic Director known as JJ did partake in the Bowl Agreements, this article doesn't really talk about his involvement.  - Jus sayin :poke:

"The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves."

"Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons
."

May not mention him by name, but who do you think they are talking about?

Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 03, 2009, 12:23:37 PM
Wonder where Ole Miss and TN will land.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on December 03, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Wonder where Ole Miss and TN will land.

Ole Miss = Cotton
UT = Chicken Bowl
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
"The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves."

"Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons
."

May not mention him by name, but who do you think they are talking about?


Like I siad I don't disagree with you, I guess I was just expecting more.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Token on December 03, 2009, 12:28:18 PM
Where's the mustache?
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2009, 12:31:13 PM
Like I siad I don't disagree with you, I guess I was just expecting more.

That's what your wife said
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2009, 12:33:27 PM
That's what your wife said
How did you know that, I was hoping you didn't hear us talking about you.  Damn sorry bro.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2009, 12:34:50 PM
How did you know that, I was hoping you didn't hear us talking about you.  Damn sorry bro.

She didn't say that about me......did she?
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 01:39:07 PM
I thought he had nothing to do with the Outback Bid?

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091203/SPORTS0402/912030339/1002/sports/Some-of-the-best-drama-comes-before-bowl-games (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091203/SPORTS0402/912030339/1002/sports/Some-of-the-best-drama-comes-before-bowl-games)

Auburn officials =  JJ and the Athletic dept


Is this a great bowl season or what?



 

The games don't begin for 16 days, but the plot already has taken more turns than a Ste­phen King novel. Nowhere is the excitement more gripping than in the Southeastern Conference, where half a dozen teams fin­ished with 7-5 records and find themselves lobbying for better bowl position.

The competition has been fierce.

After all, the right bowl can create advantages that last for years. Power is rooted in re­cruiting. Recruiting, in many ways, is rooted in exposure.

Bigger bowls with attractive dates and more national exclu­sivity can help create buzz throughout the recruiting world. Prospects know which programs are making progress.

They also can see which teams are sliding.

The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves.

If everyone is 7-5, it takes more than a record to curry fa­vor.

Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons.

The Tigers didn't care. They wanted to be in Tampa.

And they apparently made it work.

Auburn officials had three novel elements working in their favor. Coach Gene Chizik is a native of nearby Clearwater, Fla., and courted his wife there during the early 1990s. It's a good story.

Gus Malzahn's offense is ex­citing, innovative and notewor­thy. It's a good story.

Auburn's fan base, excluded from the postseason fray in 2008, is enthusiastic about the team's renaissance. If Chizik somehow could move his team into a New Year's Day bowl during his first season, fans would feel even more strongly about making the trip to Florida.

Everything was in place. Outback Bowl officials, who ini­tially felt compelled to invite Tennessee, instead worked with officials from the Chick-fil-A Bowl and found the Vols a closer postseason home.
(2 of 2)


Other bowls with SEC tie-ins made their agreements as well. Georgia settled with the Inde­pendence Bowl. South Carolina (Papajohns.com Bowl), Arkan­sas (Liberty Bowl) and Ken­tucky (Music City Bowl) learned their fates as well.



Announcements were pre­pared. They were scheduled to occur Tuesday.

Then the SEC office inter­vened.

It put a moratorium on final agreements because of a poten­tial snag. Officials from the Bowl Championship Series were unwilling to guarantee a BCS berth for the loser of Satur­day's SEC Championship game.

Florida is No. 1. Alabama is No. 2.

The lesser of those two teams surely is worthy of a top-tier bowl -- each would be consid­ered a favorite in the national ti­tle game -- but the BCS refused to provide a guarantee.

The move appears to be polit­ical.

A group of politicians voiced concerns earlier this year about the BCS and its relevance. A simple House resolution created to commend Florida on its 2008 BCS championship elicited 12 votes of either "no" or "pres­ent." Some still believe a playoff remains the only equitable way to determine a championship.

Those critics believe the BCS wields too much control.

So the BCS officials played it smart with the SEC by declining to promise anything. They said the games determine all and, at least in their own mind, took a stand against their critics by holding out.

Maybe it will work. Maybe one critic will change position.

Still, Alabama and Florida will finish their seasons in BCS bowls. The deals hammered out throughout the SEC earlier this week, currently delayed by the possibility of accommodating a BCS castoff, will stick.

A week of ticket sales will be lost. So it goes.

Who says the best drama is saved for the field?
Next

I believe all I've ever said is show me some proof, some actual evidence that Jacobs was the architect or the negotiator and then you have something. 

Again -- even with this article -- all we have are some "he must have" and "he probably" when there it nothing to confirm such.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2009, 02:06:57 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't bowl officials come and watch some games closer to the end of the season? Weren't there some folks from the Outback Bowl at the Iron Bowl, along with folks from some other bowls? I can't imagine a team getting a bowl bid and an AD having absolutely no involvement whatsoever. As if a phone call mysteriously comes out of the blue offering the appearance and he's like "Wow, I wonder how they picked us?" I'm not saying the guy camped out at the front stoop of the committe's office for weeks or anything, but I mean, there is no way an AD is not involved in some way, shape, or form when it comes to getting a bowl game. Especially a bowl game that picked you over a team with the same record, that beat you, and just got through beating the #7 team in the country not even a whole week prior.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: JR4AU on December 03, 2009, 02:13:09 PM
I believe all I've ever said is show me some proof, some actual evidence that Jacobs was the architect or the negotiator and then you have something. 

Again -- even with this article -- all we have are some "he must have" and "he probably" when there it nothing to confirm such.

I'm sure he had some input.  He's no "architect" of any kind though.  Bowl officials were at Auburn and saw the crowd.  The SEC, not the schools, guarentee 11k in tix sales.  Auburn historically travels well, and especially to a bowl in a good climate.  Auburn's crowd on friday, and it's reputation earned us the top tier of the 7-5 teams.  Other than that, there was no real logical reason to choose one or the other, all beat some other 7-5 team.  Auburn beat Ole Miss.  The gig on Auburn was our SEC streak in the last 5 SEC games.  Still, we beat 8-4 Ole Miss, who in turn got waxed by MSU who Auburn pounded earlier...bottom line is you'd have to search for a logical reason to pick one over the other based on W/Ls, and so it came down to who sells tickets, and who looks good on TV.  Auburn was the answer.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2009, 02:21:02 PM
Besides what would you rather see on TV this

(http://thewareaglereader.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/brandon-cox-kiss-2.jpg) :vn:

or this?

(http://newsnidea.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Three-Tennessee-Football-Players-Charged-With-Armed-Robbery-300x225.jpg)
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on December 03, 2009, 02:24:33 PM
Besides what would you rather see on TV this

(http://thewareaglereader.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/brandon-cox-kiss-2.jpg) :vn:

or this?

(http://newsnidea.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Three-Tennessee-Football-Players-Charged-With-Armed-Robbery-300x225.jpg)

I vote for the first one
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: ibelonginprison on December 03, 2009, 02:32:26 PM
more boobs, less cox.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2009, 02:53:03 PM
more boobs, less cox.


Oh shut up.  You love teh Cox.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2009, 04:24:16 PM
 "When we heard the Auburn fans chanting at the end of Fridays game 'Its great to be an Auburn Tiger' we knew there was something special about the excitement around this football team. The Tigers have everything we are looking for in a New Years Day team-They are a tough, exciting team, extremely well coached, and have what might be the best fans in College Football." -Jim McVay, Outback Bowl President/CEO   :vn:
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
"When we heard the Auburn fans chanting at the end of Fridays game 'Its great to be an Auburn Tiger' we knew there was something special about the excitement around this football team. The Tigers have everything we are looking for in a New Years Day team-They are a tough, exciting team, extremely well coached, and have what might be the best fans in College Football." -Jim McVay, Outback Bowl President/CEO   :vn:

Conspicuously absent from this quote?  Jay Jacobs.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUChizad on December 03, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
Conspicuously absent from this quote?  Jay Jacobs.
Ok, you win. Jay Jacobs had no part in it. Even though that's his job. It's logical to assume that the Outback Bowl's committee went through the bowl fairy instead.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 06:05:38 PM
Ok, you win. Jay Jacobs had no part in it. Even though that's his job. It's logical to assume that the Outback Bowl's committee went through the bowl fairy instead.

Thank you. 
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Pell City Tiger on December 03, 2009, 07:14:35 PM
"When we heard the Auburn fans chanting at the end of Fridays game 'Its great to be an Auburn Tiger' we knew there was something special about the excitement around this football team. The Tigers have everything we are looking for in a New Years Day team-They are a tough, exciting team, extremely well coached, and have what might be the best fans in College Football." -Jim McVay, Outback Bowl President/CEO   :vn:
Impossible!
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: The Prowler on December 03, 2009, 07:42:57 PM
Impossible!
I don't think it's impossible, I mean hasn't greaseybammer been saying that all along?  And yes, Jay Jacobs did have something to do with the Outback Bowl selecting Auburn....too bad Mr. Shitstache can't accept that.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Iwannaplay on December 03, 2009, 11:20:07 PM
You are all tards except Kaos.  UGA is down and the fan base isn't excited right, evidence why they fell all the way down to Shreveport. Auburn fan base feels like they are on the rise and excited that's why they got it b/c they will go and spend money. If you've ever been in an athletic department or worked in an athletic department trying to get a bid, its about what the fans.  The bowl will select what fans will come and spend money, not about the pitch that the athletic director will make.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 04, 2009, 12:08:11 AM
You are all tards except Kaos.  UGA is down and the fan base isn't excited right, evidence why they fell all the way down to Shreveport. Auburn fan base feels like they are on the rise and excited that's why they got it b/c they will go and spend money. If you've ever been in an athletic department or worked in an athletic department trying to get a bid, its about what the fans.  The bowl will select what fans will come and spend money, not about the pitch that the athletic director will make.

"It's about what the fans"????  Stop, please. Look, the bowl reps go to the games and yes...the Iron Bowl was very influential.  But anyone who doesn't think those same reps and the AD's (Jacobs, in this case) aren't on the horn wheeling and dealing..is delusional. 

" I am an OUTBACK REP...and I went to teh Iron Bowls.  And I decree that Auburn fans are...teh best". 

Bullshit!!!!!

There's all kinds of logistics to work out from transportation...to room and board...advertisement..to bands etc.  People ...pleeease..the Outback Bowl reps did NOT look at Auburn's fan base and make this decision solely on one game. It's a $3.1 million dollar payout per team.  And you think there aren't serious discussions and debates going on?  Really? 
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUChizad on December 04, 2009, 12:12:04 AM
"It's about what the fans"????  Stop, please. Look, the bowl reps go to the games and yes...the Iron Bowl was very influential.  But anyone who doesn't think those same reps and the AD's (Jacobs, in this case) aren't on the horn wheeling and dealing..is delusional. 

" I am an OUTBACK REP...and I went to teh Iron Bowls.  And I decree that Auburn fans are...teh best". 

Bullshit!!!!!

There's all kinds of logistics to work out from transportation...to room and board...advertisement..to bands etc.  People ...pleeease..the Outback Bowl reps did NOT look at Auburn's fan base and make this decision solely on one game. It's a $3.1 million dollar payout per team.  And you think there aren't serious discussions and debates going on?  Really? 
^This.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 12:15:40 AM
"It's about what the fans"????  Stop, please. Look, the bowl reps go to the games and yes...the Iron Bowl was very influential.  But anyone who doesn't think those same reps and the AD's (Jacobs, in this case) aren't on the horn wheeling and dealing..is delusional. 

" I am an OUTBACK REP...and I went to teh Iron Bowls.  And I decree that Auburn fans are...teh best". 

Bullpoop!!!!!

There's all kinds of logistics to work out from transportation...to room and board...advertisement..to bands etc.  People ...pleeease..the Outback Bowl reps did NOT look at Auburn's fan base and make this decision solely on one game. It's a $3.1 million dollar payout per team.  And you think there aren't serious discussions and debates going on?  Really? 

I talked to an Outback rep during the rain delay of the West Virginia game.  Or was it halftime at the MSU game?  I can't remember. 

I want credit, please. 
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 04, 2009, 12:25:07 AM
You get no credit.  It was storming and no one could see you. Unless you have video of said Outback rep singing, "Living on a Prayer"...it didn't happen.  David says, fuck your BBQ and your inside sources.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 12:57:41 AM
You get no credit.  It was storming and no one could see you. Unless you have video of said Outback rep singing, "Living on a Prayer"...it didn't happen.  David says, phuk your BBQ and your inside sources.

I asked him to hand me a napkin at the steam tables where the (horribly poopty) food was.  I'm sure he saw the AU logo on the napkin and as a result advised the bowl committee to select us.  

Food in the AU pressbox has declined PRECIPITOUSLY in the last few years.  In the Bowden days you got Kenny Rogers chicken and fixins.  Damn that was good.  

Since then, it's gotten pooptier and pooptier.  This year was the absolute worst ever.

One week it was some casserole garbage that tasted like cardboard.   One week it was nothing but some damn dogs.  

Used to be, there were hot dogs and burgers and then a good meal on the tables.  Drinks came in souvenir cups.  Now?  No burgers.  A handful of dogs -- better get one quick if you want one or they'll be gone -- and damn lunchroom lady food.  Drinks come in thin-ass clear plastic cups that crumple in your hand.  Pathetic.  And no choices, either.  No tea.  Coke, diet coke and water.  

Even the desserts have declined.  Cookie size is halved. Once had Dove bars in the freezer.  Now it's some weak Mayfield junk.  Not the good stuff, the cheapy poopty ice cream sandwiches.  

After the game there used to be hot dogs and chips and cookies in the interview room with a carbonated drink machine.  The machine is still there, but there's no ice.  And the cups are the poopty wax ones.  The hot dogs are cleaned out  because they only bring in about six.  And there aren't any cookies or chips.  

First class to low rent.

And you know who is at fault for the piss poor food?  (Seriously? AU has gone from having the best spread to having one of the worst)  JAY JACOBS.  It's his fault.  
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 09:33:28 AM
Ok, you win. Jay Jacobs had no part in it. Even though that's his job. It's logical to assume that the Outback Bowl's committee went through the bowl fairy instead.

It doesn't take a kick ass salesman or sales job to sell a good product that the buyer has seen and tested for themselves.  The product sells itself.  IMO, Jacobs could only have fucked it up.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUChizad on December 04, 2009, 09:35:40 AM
It doesn't take a kick ass salesman or sales job to sell a good product that the buyer has seen and tested for themselves.  The product sells itself.  IMO, Jacobs could only have fucked it up.
This may be true. But then why did everyone and their mother have us chalked up for Shreveport or Birmingham? Absolutely no one, yourself included, pegged us for the best possible bowl of the six we were fighting other teams with identical records for.

I'm not saying he turned water into wine, I'm just saying he played, in the very least, a small part in pitching the idea that we were a worthy participant in their bowl.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: GH2001 on December 04, 2009, 09:37:02 AM
I asked him to hand me a napkin at the steam tables where the (horribly poopty) food was.  I'm sure he saw the AU logo on the napkin and as a result advised the bowl committee to select us.  

Food in the AU pressbox has declined PRECIPITOUSLY in the last few years.  In the Bowden days you got Kenny Rogers chicken and fixins.  Damn that was good.  

Since then, it's gotten pooptier and pooptier.  This year was the absolute worst ever.

One week it was some casserole garbage that tasted like cardboard.   One week it was nothing but some damn dogs.  

Used to be, there were hot dogs and burgers and then a good meal on the tables.  Drinks came in souvenir cups.  Now?  No burgers.  A handful of dogs -- better get one quick if you want one or they'll be gone -- and damn lunchroom lady food.  Drinks come in thin-ass clear plastic cups that crumple in your hand.  Pathetic.  And no choices, either.  No tea.  Coke, diet coke and water.  

Even the desserts have declined.  Cookie size is halved. Once had Dove bars in the freezer.  Now it's some weak Mayfield junk.  Not the good stuff, the cheapy poopty ice cream sandwiches.  

After the game there used to be hot dogs and chips and cookies in the interview room with a carbonated drink machine.  The machine is still there, but there's no ice.  And the cups are the poopty wax ones.  The hot dogs are cleaned out  because they only bring in about six.  And there aren't any cookies or chips.  

First class to low rent.

And you know who is at fault for the piss poor food?  (Seriously? AU has gone from having the best spread to having one of the worst)  JAY JACOBS.  It's his fault.  

Seriously? You sound like a whiny teenage girl getting mad because dad cut her text message plan in half and she now can only text her BFFs Haleigh and Kelcey ala carte and now dad's gonna make her pay for it. Poor you. Go buy 4 dollar watered down cokes and 4 dollar rank ass hotdogs like the rest of us.   :)
Boo hoo.  :poke:
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 09:49:05 AM

Food in the AU pressbox has declined PRECIPITOUSLY in the last few years.  In the Bowden days you got Kenny Rogers chicken and fixins.  Damn that was good.  

Since then, it's gotten pooptier and pooptier.  This year was the absolute worst ever.

One week it was some casserole garbage that tasted like cardboard.   One week it was nothing but some damn dogs.  

Used to be, there were hot dogs and burgers and then a good meal on the tables.  Drinks came in souvenir cups.  Now?  No burgers.  A handful of dogs -- better get one quick if you want one or they'll be gone -- and damn lunchroom lady food.  Drinks come in thin-ass clear plastic cups that crumple in your hand.  Pathetic.  And no choices, either.  No tea.  Coke, diet coke and water.  

Even the desserts have declined.  Cookie size is halved. Once had Dove bars in the freezer.  Now it's some weak Mayfield junk.  Not the good stuff, the cheapy poopty ice cream sandwiches.  

After the game there used to be hot dogs and chips and cookies in the interview room with a carbonated drink machine.  The machine is still there, but there's no ice.  And the cups are the poopty wax ones.  The hot dogs are cleaned out  because they only bring in about six.  And there aren't any cookies or chips.  
  


I'm not really interested in making sure ya'll are fed well. 

Besides, look at this man.  Any doubt there was gonna be heavy grazing going on during his tenure?

Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 10:04:23 AM
Go buy 4 dollar watered down cokes and 4 dollar rank ass hotdogs like the rest of us.   :)
Boo hoo.  :poke:
This

I'm not really interested in making sure ya'll are fed well. 

Besides, look at this man.  Any doubt there was gonna be heavy grazing going on during his tenure?

and this

Complaining about free food? I am going to start calling you Kaostein.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AUChizad on December 04, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
Complaining about free food? I am going to start calling you Kaostein.
Or Birmingham.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 10:36:13 AM
I asked him to hand me a napkin at the steam tables where the (horribly poopty) food was.  I'm sure he saw the AU logo on the napkin and as a result advised the bowl committee to select us.  




However, Jay Jacobs hired Gene Chizik...and I saw specifically spelled out in the blue print (page 7, paragraph 3), that "all napkins in the press box area shall display the AU logo".

It's part of his attention to detail.  And guess what, his genius coaching job in the Iron Bowl and his logos on napkins got us the Outback Bowl.

Who hired this Bowl corralling genius?  Jay Jacobs, the puppet master.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 10:45:06 AM
However, Jay Jacobs hired Gene Chizik...and I saw specifically spelled out in the blue print (page 7, paragraph 3), that "all napkins in the press box area shall display the AU logo".

It's part of his attention to detail.  And guess what, his genius coaching job in the Iron Bowl and his logos on napkins got us the Outback Bowl.

Who hired this Bowl corralling genius?  Jay Jacobs, the puppet master.
Also make note the napkins with said logo are more expensive than regular napkins, hence leading to less money in the budget to feed the media. 

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Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 10:45:17 AM
It doesn't take a kick ass salesman or sales job to sell a good product that the buyer has seen and tested for themselves.  The product sells itself.  IMO, Jacobs could only have phuked it up.

I don't think that's so true.  As much as I hate to use Alabama as an example....that football program is easy to sell...history, championships (real and imagined), facilities, support (even guys like RWS who have never been to game bleed crimson and saban), etc.  Yet until they got a guy in there that knew exactly how to sell it, they weren't bringing in top 5 recruiting classes.

The extent to which a good product sells itself is limited, you have to have someone that can sell it too.  Who knows, Jacobs may make bad decisions and seem like a goof, but maybe the guy can sell ice to an Eskimo(?).
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 10:53:54 AM
Seriously? You sound like a whiny teenage girl getting mad because dad cut her text message plan in half and she now can only text her BFFs Haleigh and Kelcey ala carte and now dad's gonna make her pay for it. Poor you. Go buy 4 dollar watered down cokes and 4 dollar rank ass hotdogs like the rest of us.   :)
Boo hoo.  :poke:

Obviously the rant was self-mockery. 

But there is no question the quality of the food has declined over the last decade. 

If it was just feeding the douchebags like me and Finebaum and Scarbinsky and Doucheberry, I wouldn't care.  But the folks from ESPN eat there and so do the visiting bowl officials.   

Maybe the paucity of good food got us the Outback.  Maybe it's charity because they think we are like homeless people eating discarded trash. 
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 10:55:54 AM
Also make note the napkins with said logo are more expensive than regular napkins, hence leading to less money in the budget to feed the media.  KAOS


Many people don't know that Chizik majored in economics.  His senior thesis was written on the economics of Bowl payouts.  See, the Independence Bowl pays out $1.1 million.  The Outback pays $3 million.  He knew the extra $13.04 per napkin pack would pay off huge in the end.  
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 11:00:37 AM
Many people don't know that Chizik majored in economics.  His senior thesis was written on the economics of Bowl payouts.  See, the Independence Bowl pays out $1.1 million.  The Outback pays $3 million.  He knew the extra $13.04 per napkin pack would pay off huge in the end.  
That will buy a lot more napkins for next year.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 11:02:09 AM
If it was just feeding the douchebags like me and Finebaum and Scarbinsky and Doucheberry, I wouldn't care.  But the folks from ESPN eat there and so do the visiting bowl officials.   

The fact that you did not include ESPN as douches or bags that carry such makes baby Tebow cry.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 11:03:28 AM
That will buy a lot more napkins for next year.

I'm thinking that puts logos on the cups next year as well, which is a big sell to BCS officials.

Kaos will still have to suffer through Vienna sausages and Triscuits at least one more season.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: eagleair89 on December 04, 2009, 11:15:35 AM
JJ used the Erin Brockovich strategy to land the Outback Bowl bid.

Check the 1:50 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keZXGaDvK2s# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keZXGaDvK2s#)

WAR EAGLE
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 11:17:30 AM
I'm thinking that puts logos on the cups next year as well, which is a big sell to BCS officials.

Kaos will still have to suffer through Vienna sausages and Triscuits at least one more season.
:thumbsup:
Ovaltine...they should call it roundtine
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 11:27:30 AM
I'm thinking that puts logos on the cups next year as well, which is a big sell to BCS officials.

Kaos will still have to suffer through Vienna sausages and Triscuits at least one more season.

They had logos on the cups until this year.  Or last, I can't remember.  You got souvenir cups at the drink counter though.  They might have been last year's or in the years where there was a weekly promotion, last week's, leftovers, but they were still souvenir cups. 

Used to have programs stacked up, too.  Not any more.  Don't think I got one at all this year. 
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 11:30:59 AM
They had logos on the cups until this year.  Or last, I can't remember.  You got souvenir cups at the drink counter though.  They might have been last year's or in the years where there was a weekly promotion, last week's, leftovers, but they were still souvenir cups. 

Used to have programs stacked up, too.  Not any more.  Don't think I got one at all this year. 

There was still all you could eat,drink, and steal in programs, in the scholarship donation level this year. 

The administration must have realized that the media is for shit and the fat cats who give lots of money need the pampering instead.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: GH2001 on December 04, 2009, 11:45:01 AM


The administration must have realized that the media is for poop and the fat cats who give lots of money need the pampering instead.

You mean provide it to the people who actually probably paid for it? No shit. That makes too much effing sense.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 11:52:37 AM
There was still all you could eat,drink, and steal in programs, in the scholarship donation level this year. 

The administration must have realized that the media is for poop and the fat cats who give lots of money need the pampering instead.

It's not just media.  If it was, they could serve oatmeal and warm Dr. Thunder if they want.  Watching Bob Davie root around looking for a decent cookie was actually amusing.

That skimpy ass buffet is where the bowl people and other interested observers also dine, though.   It's where Lord Jay and his sniveling entourage sometimes appears, too.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
It's not just media.  If it was, they could serve oatmeal and warm Dr. Thunder if they want.  Watching Bob Davie root around looking for a decent cookie was actually amusing.

That skimpy ass buffet is where the bowl people and other interested observers also dine, though.   It's where Lord Jay and his sniveling entourage sometimes appears, too.

I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that bowl people and other interested people give less than two shit about what kind of hot dogs they get at a stadium.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 12:57:37 PM
I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that bowl people and other interested people give less than two poop about what kind of hot dogs they get at a stadium.

It's not about hot dogs. 

And you'd be wrong in your bet.  People remember how they're treated.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Pell City Tiger on December 04, 2009, 01:03:48 PM
I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that bowl people and other interested people give less than two shit about what kind of hot dogs they get at a stadium.
One of the reasons we didn't make the MNC game in '04 was our switch from Zeigler to Bryan hot dogs. We haven't recovered.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 01:05:25 PM
  People remember how they're treated.

Sure they do.  I said nothing about how they are treated. 
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 01:09:16 PM
One of the reasons we didn't make the MNC game in '04 was our switch from Zeigler to Bryan hot dogs. We haven't recovered.
Sons of bitches...now it all makes sense.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 01:11:23 PM
Sons of bitches...now it all makes sense.

We could be in the championship this year if they would get the dogs from here.

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Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: GH2001 on December 04, 2009, 01:47:10 PM
It's not just media.  If it was, they could serve oatmeal and warm Dr. Thunder if they want.  Watching Bob Davie root around looking for a decent cookie was actually amusing.

That skimpy ass buffet is where the bowl people and other interested observers also dine, though.   It's where Lord Jay and his sniveling entourage sometimes appears, too.

Bob needs medicine and sleep - not cookies.

LMAO at the Dr Thunder and Oatmeal comment.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 01:58:35 PM
Sure they do.  I said nothing about how they are treated. 

You serve me shitty food and skimp on the drinks?  I'm not going to look forward to coming back to your house.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on December 04, 2009, 02:04:40 PM
You serve me shitty food and skimp on the drinks?  I'm not going to look forward to coming back to your house.

Educate me here. 

Is ESPN, or bowl officials, or other important people ONLY fed at the actual football game?   I guess I was under the impression that either Auburn hosted important people (in other words, not media writers, and no offense, but low on the totem pole writers) to dinners, or provided better accomadations where it's better suited?

Seems to me, if I'm working a football game, I'm not there to be completely pampered.  Especially if the host school might be doing the actual pampering elsewhere.

???
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 04:44:43 PM
Educate me here. 

Is ESPN, or bowl officials, or other important people ONLY fed at the actual football game?   I guess I was under the impression that either Auburn hosted important people (in other words, not media writers, and no offense, but low on the totem pole writers) to dinners, or provided better accomadations where it's better suited?

Seems to me, if I'm working a football game, I'm not there to be completely pampered.  Especially if the host school might be doing the actual pampering elsewhere.

???

Since you've never been there I guess you don't know. 

Maybe they are eating other places, but you wouldn't know it from the way they attack the chow. 

The "low totem pole" people you refer to include all of the TV people in the state and Finebaum and the ESPN crew, the CBS crew, Rod and Stan and all the newspaper writers and photographers (which in some years includes CBSSportsline, SI, ESPN The Mag and others.   

The back two rows of the box are reserved for visiting "dignitaries" and yeah, they hit the food just as hard as anybody else. 

Regardless of who's in there, it doesn't change the fact that things used to be a lot better and now they're kind of skimpy.  When you slide from Kenny Rogers Roasters and sweet potato casserole to "mystery stew" or "lunchroom taco night" it's noticeable.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
"lunchroom taco night" it's noticeable.
Was I the only one that liked "lunchroom taco day"?


btw what grade school did you go to? Irondale Tech? St. Rose of Trade Schools?
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 04:49:16 PM
Was I the only one that liked "lunchroom taco day"?


btw what grade school did you go to?

I liked it when i was five. 

I'm not five any more. 

A bag of simmering meat, a tin plate of stale tortilla chips and a pan of shredded cheese just doesn't cut it.

I think we've hashed this topic quite enough. 
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on December 08, 2009, 09:39:44 AM
Forget all the food stuff for a minute and how because you're so important you get to be there once in a blue moon....  let alone complain... but...

Do you give Jay Jacobs any credit at all now that more has come out about his role in getting the Outback Bowl to award the game to Auburn?

Don't you HAVE to give him some credit?

Do these quotes from you even make sense anymore??
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I believe all I've ever said is show me some proof, some actual evidence that Jacobs was the architect or the negotiator and then you have something. 

Again -- even with this article -- all we have are some "he must have" and "he probably" when there it nothing to confirm such.


Then this in response to the Bowl Director's comments about Auburn....
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Conspicuously absent from this quote?  Jay Jacobs.

Again, this isn't about giving Jay Jacobs a public hand job.  This is about showing where blind hatred steers a lot of your opinions askew from time to time.   You can fuck Jacobs with a pitchfork for all I care, but he DID have a central role in winning the game for Auburn.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Kaos on December 08, 2009, 09:54:42 AM
Forget all the food stuff for a minute and how because you're so important you get to be there once in a blue moon....  let alone complain... but...

Do you give Jay Jacobs any credit at all now that more has come out about his role in getting the Outback Bowl to award the game to Auburn?

Don't you HAVE to give him some credit?

Do these quotes from you even make sense anymore??

Then this in response to the Bowl Director's comments about Auburn....
Again, this isn't about giving Jay Jacobs a public hand job.  This is about showing where blind hatred steers a lot of your opinions askew from time to time.   You can phuk Jacobs with a pitchfork for all I care, but he DID have a central role in winning the game for Auburn.


I don't HAVE to do anything other than marvel at your obsession and rampant inferiority complex.  

Marvel, i say.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on December 08, 2009, 10:01:23 AM

I don't HAVE to do anything other than marvel at your obsession and rampant inferiority complex.  

Marvel, i say.

You've probably posted 50 times to my 1 here recently, and you call it an "obsession" and "rampant inferiority complex"?  

This just comes across more like you don't want to answer the question because you can't rather then you don't "HAVE" to.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: Godfather on December 08, 2009, 10:16:29 AM
How do you know its the off season?
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: weagle251 on December 08, 2009, 10:23:33 AM
Indeed.
Title: Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
Post by: GH2001 on December 08, 2009, 10:46:49 AM
 :popcorn: