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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on October 27, 2009, 12:44:45 PM
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Like 99% of the Auburn fanbase, I'm sickened by the sudden downward spiral. The reasons are numerous and don't require my "Expert" analysis. Suffice it to say, the it's as bad right now as I've seen it in a long, long time. But, it went from the Penthouse to the Outhouse much too quickly and I'm still holding out hope because of the fact that there actually was a Penthouse. This team CAN be good...good enough to beat Ole Miss and Georgia if they get their mojo back. Will they? Trust me, I desperately want that to happen Saturday.
Now, for Saturday. Ole Miss is beatable if this Auburn team gets the snakes out of their heads and just goes out to have fun and lay it all on the line. As I said, they were doing just that a few short weeks ago and there's no reason they can't get that mindset back. I'm going to watch that game hoping like hell the Auburn of weeks 1-5 takes the field. If it happens, then all bets are off for the rest of the year. F.U., UGA and UA had better strap that shit on tight and get ready. If it doesn't....what then?
IF...Auburn plays a tight game and has a chance to win, we have some things to talk about. What can we improve on, where can some changes be made etc. If they get their collective asses handed to them by 3+ scores, showing the same ineptness overall that has been prevalent throughout the last 3 weeks...there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. And if Chris Todd continues his stellar play, this is one area that a change will either be made, or I will join the torch and pitchfork parade to the front steps of the Athletic Building. Make no mistake, if Ole Miss punks auburn this weekend (And Gawd, I hope they don't) this season is officially a big tittied bust. Neil Caudle is the #2 QB on the roster. He had better start every game to finish the season. No question.
Am I suggesting Caudle is the saviour, the most popular guy on the team and all that? Nope, not even close. He's the #2 for a reason. But...Neil Caudle will be here next year. Todd won't. Neil Caudle will be competing for the starting QB job next year. Todd won't. Why in the world would you not get the guy as much starting experience as possible going into next season? There are very few changes that can be made as far as players are concerned with what we have on the roster. They are playing about all the people they can right now. But if Chris Todd mucks it up Saturday, Caudle had better be in the gun against F.U. and beyond.
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This is a live feed....
(http://media.oanow.com/oanow/gfx.php?max_width=300&imgfile=images/uploads/AU_Chris_Todd_ULM_cw_Web.jpg)
Wait for it...wait for it...he's gonna throw it....I swear....keep watching.
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This is a live feed....
(http://media.oanow.com/oanow/gfx.php?max_width=300&imgfile=images/uploads/AU_Chris_Todd_ULM_cw_Web.jpg)
Wait for it...wait for it...he's gonna throw it....I swear....keep watching.
andddddddddddddddddddddd interception.
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This is a live feed....
(http://media.oanow.com/oanow/gfx.php?max_width=300&imgfile=images/uploads/AU_Chris_Todd_ULM_cw_Web.jpg)
Wait for it...wait for it...he's gonna throw it....I swear....keep watching.
Looking...looking...looking...quarterback keeper.
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This is a live feed....
(http://media.oanow.com/oanow/gfx.php?max_width=300&imgfile=images/uploads/AU_Chris_Todd_ULM_cw_Web.jpg)
Wait for it...wait for it...he's gonna throw it....I swear....keep watching.
Todd looks downfield, he's got 3 receivers open at the 5.....he pumps once, twice..still looking...moves to his right...OOHHH AND THE BALL IS KNOCKED AWAY...OLE MISS PICKS IT UP AT THE 40..IT'S A FOOT RACE TO THE ENDZONE...THE 20..THE 10....
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(http://media.oanow.com/oanow/gfx.php?max_width=300&imgfile=images/uploads/AU_Chris_Todd_ULM_cw_Web.jpg)
i'm throwing it to #5.
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This is a live feed....
(http://media.oanow.com/oanow/gfx.php?max_width=300&imgfile=images/uploads/AU_Chris_Todd_ULM_cw_Web.jpg)
Wait for it...wait for it...he's gonna throw it....I swear....keep watching.
Come on 5...get open....wait for it...wait for it...come on 5..
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It has been a long time since I have done this, I always laugh at the people on gameday they show drinking around 9:00am:
Sadly I will be one of those people this weekend on the Plains. Ahh, the joy of traveling.
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It has been a long time since I have done this, I always laugh at the people on gameday they show drinking around 9:00am:
Sadly I will be one of those people this weekend on the Plains. Ahh, the joy of traveling.
Hotty Toddy
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Hotty Toddy
You know what I just realized, I'm still going to watch the game on Saturday holding on to a shred of hope that our team will pull their heads out of their collective asses. Then, after I come to terms with this, I read Chizik's presser from today, and want to fucking shoot myself.
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You know what I just realized, I'm still going to watch the game on Saturday holding on to a shred of hope that our team will pull their heads out of their collective asses. Then, after I come to terms with this, I read Chizik's presser from today, and want to fucking shoot myself.
He didn't use any coachspeak did he?
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# He has arrived.
# ``It'll be a fun day and a very challenging weekend."
# On Ole Miss: ``They're probably the most balanced team we've played to date. They're solid all the way around."
# General comments: ``I'm really proud of this group. The mark of the men is coming out. They have been phenomenal. They really want to be a good football team. They've been excellent. Our seniors have really stepped up to the plate and are ready to move past next week and move on to the next game."
# On offensive troubles: ``I don't think there's one thing you can pinpoint. It's everywhere. It's a little breakdown here and a little breakdown there. What seemingly would be little things are big things. We're not panicking by any stretch of the imagination. We have to get better at what we do. The level of competition has gone up. You can't just pin it on one guy." :suicide:
(BLOGGER'S NOTE: Actually, you can pin it on one guy if you'd like. It happens all the time. Ask Jim Zorn about it.)
# On Hot Carter: ``You don't know until you're banging on those guys all night long. It's really good to see him being back close to what he was during the spring before the injury. We need him. With our situation at defensive end, the most depth we can build up, the better."
# He admires Kodi Burns for playing after having two teeth knocked out. ``I talked to our team about that kind of courage and that mark of a man. He's special."
# On not practicing Sunday: ``I thought it was great timing for us to say: Let's take time on the film. Let's take time on the mental part of the game. We took our time. I thought it would be better to have a mental day with film work from the game. The response was great." :suicide:
# Concerned about dissention?: "If there was any of that finger pointing going on, yeah. But they don't want to go through that again. You can choose to be different. There is absolutely zero of that (arguing) going on. They've chosen to go in another direction."
# On the complexities of Chris Todd's job: ``People want to pin all the great stuff on the quarterback and all the bad stuff on the quarterback. That's at any level. This is the most widely recognized league in the country, so it magnifies that. That's what makes the league great. The positions comes with what it comes with. In Chris' case right now, I don't think he pays much attention to it. When it's 3rd-and-7 and he has five guys in his lap, that's not Chris Todd."
# On reaffirming his commitment to Todd: ``He gives us the best chance to win. He needs to know that we have a vote of confidence in him. He knows that." :suicide:
# More on Todd's situation: ``Quarterback's got to be a tough-minded position. It all comes with the territory. If you're not mentally tough enough to get through those things, more than likely you don't need to be playing in this league. You get the good and you get the bad." :suicide:
# On Dex McCluster: "He is a very good player. Now it's not just Wildcat. It's not just receiver. He's your dotted-I tailback. He hits a crease and he's gone. That's something they're hitting on now. He plays at a whole different speed."
# That's a wrap.
All said instances of blowing ones brains out were added by me.
http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/ (http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/)
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____________ was the best team we have played this year.
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Every week, "Our team is showing great leadership. No one is down about the losses. No one is pointing fingers." ...............
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Is he retarded?
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Is he retarded?
No. He's Ed Harris.
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Im pointing fingers.
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Is he retarded?
You will have to be more specific than that. Too many candidates to narrow it down to just one.
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You will have to be more specific than that. Too many candidates to narrow it down to just one.
(http://doemasters.smugmug.com/photos/656625730_QQJZX-O.jpg)
That's my nominee.
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Ole Miss has a pass rush and a good run defense. We're fucked.
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Is he retarded?
He's retodded. Same thing.
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Ole Miss has a defense. We're fucked.
Fixed it for ya.
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Most likely you're all right....we are most likely fucked, if the last three games are any indication.
BUT....we have to remember, our first five games weren't Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State. We did beat a 6-1 West Virginia team. We did absolutely destroy (nearly 600 yards) a Mississippi State team that's holding it's own with other top SEC teams. We did just put 459 yards on Tennessee (who had given up 323 to Florida before they played us, and 241 to Georgia and 256 to Alabama right after they played us). So Florida, Georgia, and Alabama averaged 273 yards on Tennessee. We racked up a relatively easy 459.
You can say Mississippi State has gotten better. But Tennessee was already playing good defense when we got them on October 3rd.
What ever we had is missing. But at least we HAD something. The fact that we had it means we're still capable of doing it again. Everyone talking about this being the lowest time you can ever remember....can't you remember to just last year? From beginning to end we never had anything going last year. Remember LA-Monroe, Southern Miss, and Mississippi State last year? In those first three games we never showed we were capable of anything. That was the most helpless I've ever felt watching an Auburn offense, by far.
This group can do it, and we have watched them do it...this year, against decent teams like Tennessee, West Virginia, and Mississippi State.
Like I said, the trend isn't good, but we can't say we have no reason to think they can turn it around. It was just turned around less than a month ago. Can we get it back? I don't know, but at least we have some reason to think it could happen.
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The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.
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Most likely you're all right....we are most likely fucked, if the last three games are any indication.
BUT....we have to remember, our first five games weren't Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State. We did beat a 6-1 West Virginia team. We did absolutely destroy (nearly 600 yards) a Mississippi State team that's holding it's own with other top SEC teams. We did just put 459 yards on Tennessee (who had given up 323 to Florida before they played us, and 241 to Georgia and 256 to Alabama right after they played us). So Florida, Georgia, and Alabama averaged 273 yards on Tennessee. We racked up a relatively easy 459.
You can say Mississippi State has gotten better. But Tennessee was already playing good defense when we got them on October 3rd.
What ever we had is missing. But at least we HAD something. The fact that we had it means we're still capable of doing it again. Everyone talking about this being the lowest time you can ever remember....can't you remember to just last year? From beginning to end we never had anything going last year. Remember LA-Monroe, Southern Miss, and Mississippi State last year? In those first three games we never showed we were capable of anything. That was the most helpless I've ever felt watching an Auburn offense, by far.
This group can do it, and we have watched them do it...this year, against decent teams like Tennessee, West Virginia, and Mississippi State.
Like I said, the trend isn't good, but we can't say we have no reason to think they can turn it around. It was just turned around less than a month ago. Can we get it back? I don't know, but at least we have some reason to think it could happen.
The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.
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The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.
For the record, we were told in the midst of "the streak" that depth and scholarship problems was bullshit and not a valid excuse.
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When you get beat the fuck up for 8 weeks straight, playing way more snaps than if you had a decent backup sitting on the bench waiting to give you a breather................ you get tired.
Now, the problem is... I don't know what to think any more about this depth bullshit or not. Troy University had no depth, and they used to come out like a fucking rocket in the first half... but it always caught up with them towards the end of the game. Everyone is tired, and the other "higher teams" could just keep swapping fresh people in and out. But each week, for two quarters, they put on a damn show.
There's no real valid excuse/explanation/reason for our offense waking up without the use of their arms the past three weeks.
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The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.
If you think AU's defense is playing at the same level or playing as hard as Alabama's, you're out of your mind. If I recall correctly, I told you that the offense scoring in less than 2 minutes was going to wear AU's defense slap the fuck out every game. As it stands now, your offense going 3-and-out in 2 minutes is doing it as well. That was YOUR coach's choice to run that offense. YOUR coach should have known what running that offense was going to do to your defense. I told you that you're not going to be able to have SEC caliber offensive linemen that can stand up week in and week out against an SEC caliber DL and be able to run the offense at the pace Malzahn wants to run. I'm sure when I told you this, you spouted out some stupid shit about how this was possibly one of the best staffs in NCAA ball and they wouldn't let that happen or something equally homerish. It sounds about right.
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For the record, we were told in the midst of "the streak" that depth and scholarship problems was bullshit and not a valid excuse.
It was and is bullshit and not a valid excuse.
It wasn't brought up when we were 5-0. There were a few people saying "this staff is doing a lot with a little." No Auburn fans were predicting a horrible end to the season due to depth and rightfully so. Chizik proved he can win with 71 scholarship players.
Now he's proving he can be terrifyingly inconsistent. Sometime between a monumental victory at Tennessee and Arkansas going up 34-3, Chizik forgot what he was doing. Something happened. Someone got complacement, and I can take a wild guess at who.
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It was and is bullshit and not a valid excuse.
It wasn't brought up when we were 5-0. There were a few people saying "this staff is doing a lot with a little." No Auburn fans were predicting a horrible end to the season due to depth and rightfully so. Chizik proved he can win with 71 scholarship players.
Now he's proving he can be terrifyingly inconsistent. Sometime between a monumental victory at Tennessee and Arkansas going up 34-3, Chizik forgot what he was doing. Something happened. Someone got complacement, and I can take a wild guess at who.
Dax Dallenbach?
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Dax Dallenbach?
This has been a failure of Daxian proportions
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None of this explains being tired on an opening drive.
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None of this explains being tired on an opening drive.
I have yet to see anyone explain this.......
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I have yet to see anyone explain this.......
I lay the blame solely on the Tiger Walk.
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I told you that you're not going to be able to have SEC caliber offensive linemen that can stand up week in and week out against an SEC caliber DL and be able to run the offense at the pace Malzahn wants to run.
I don't think I'm buying this. It sounds very similar to the theories we heard when Meyer went to Florida. "you can't run that spread crap in the SEC....there's too much speed in the SEC". (that may or may not have been a direct quote from you).
Oklahoma runs an 80-play pace too. And while the Big 12 in general may not quite have the lines that the SEC has, it's also not the Sun Belt. It can work.
The offense isn't working right now, but it's not because the o-line is huffing and puffing after the first quarter. Not to mention, our offense is getting plenty of rest right now because our suck-ass defense is out on the field for 45 minutes getting run over. If anything our offensive line should come in each series refreshed and ready to plow down the field.
Watch that Tennessee game. We ran up a relatively easy 459 yards on them. They were gassed, we weren't. They called a couple time outs just to take a rest, nothing else. That was our fifth game of the year. How much more tired could the o-line have been in game six than we were in game five?
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I don't think I'm buying this. It sounds very similar to the theories we heard when Meyer went to Florida. "you can't run that spread crap in the SEC....there's too much speed in the SEC". (that may or may not have been a direct quote from you).
Oklahoma runs an 80-play pace too. And while the Big 12 in general may not quite have the lines that the SEC has, it's also not the Sun Belt. It can work.
The offense isn't working right now, but it's not because the o-line is huffing and puffing after the first quarter. Not to mention, our offense is getting plenty of rest right now because our suck-ass defense is out on the field for 45 minutes getting run over. If anything our offensive line should come in each series refreshed and ready to plow down the field.
Watch that Tennessee game. We ran up a relatively easy 459 yards on them. They were gassed, we weren't. They called a couple time outs just to take a rest, nothing else. That was our fifth game of the year. How much more tired could the o-line have been in game six than we were in game five?
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I think part of the blame goes to the play of your freshman running back. He looked like a world beater the first part of the season, then Sat he was running out of bounds 2 yards before a little defensive back was going to hit him. Not sure if he is overworked, hurt, or just scared, but he's not the running back he was 4 weeks ago.
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I don't think I'm buying this. It sounds very similar to the theories we heard when Meyer went to Florida. "you can't run that spread crap in the SEC....there's too much speed in the SEC". (that may or may not have been a direct quote from you).
Oklahoma runs an 80-play pace too. And while the Big 12 in general may not quite have the lines that the SEC has, it's also not the Sun Belt. It can work.
The offense isn't working right now, but it's not because the o-line is huffing and puffing after the first quarter. Not to mention, our offense is getting plenty of rest right now because our suck-ass defense is out on the field for 45 minutes getting run over. If anything our offensive line should come in each series refreshed and ready to plow down the field.
Watch that Tennessee game. We ran up a relatively easy 459 yards on them. They were gassed, we weren't. They called a couple time outs just to take a rest, nothing else. That was our fifth game of the year. How much more tired could the o-line have been in game six than we were in game five?
Prowler seems to think the offense being tired may be an issue, and thats what I responded to. Florida's offense isn't really a HUNH type offense. You see them huddle plenty. You don't see them get down ready and snap the ball as soon as its placed. So I don't see why comparing that to AU's offense means anything. Furthermore, Meyer's offense has proven to its detractors that it will in fact work. Malzahn's? Not so much. Can it work? Yes. Can it work in the SEC? I really don't think so. I just don't think a 6'4 300 lb DL in the Big 12 equals the same thing in the SEC.
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I think part of the blame goes to the play of your freshman running back. He looked like a world beater the first part of the season, then Sat he was running out of bounds 2 yards before a little defensive back was going to hit him. Not sure if he is overworked, hurt, or just scared, but he's not the running back he was 4 weeks ago.
I've noticed that too. He seems like he's running toward the sideline to get to the edge, and if he doesn't get there he just goes straight out of bounds....he never decides to just turn it up field at some point and least get a couple yards. I get the feeling he likes to run through giant holes and in open space. Whatever it is he's basically disappeared.
And if it is his ankle, then he needs to sit down and let it heel. What I did like was seeing Fannin running from a typical running back spot in the 4th when Caudle was in. I feel like he does much better there. When he's in too much space it's almost like he's too intent on finding the huge play and long run and takes too much time being indecisive. From the backfield he sees everything in front of him and seems to be more deliberate in where he goes.
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I've noticed that too. He seems like he's running toward the sideline to get to the edge, and if he doesn't get there he just goes straight out of bounds....he never decides to just turn it up field at some point and least get a couple yards. I get the feeling he likes to run through giant holes and in open space. Whatever it is he's basically disappeared.
And if it is his ankle, then he needs to sit down and let it heel. What I did like was seeing Fannin running from a typical running back spot in the 4th when Caudle was in. I feel like he does much better there. When he's in too much space it's almost like he's too intent on finding the huge play and long run and takes too much time being indecisive. From the backfield he sees everything in front of him and seems to be more deliberate in where he goes.
In the words of PCT "Eric Smith please come to the front desk...Eric Smith please come to the front desk...Thank you"
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Prowler seems to think the offense being tired may be an issue, and thats what I responded to. Florida's offense isn't really a HUNH type offense. You see them huddle plenty. You don't see them get down ready and snap the ball as soon as its placed. So I don't see why comparing that to AU's offense means anything. Furthermore, Meyer's offense has proven to its detractors that it will in fact work. Malzahn's? Not so much. Can it work? Yes. Can it work in the SEC? I really don't think so. I just don't think a 6'4 300 lb DL in the Big 12 equals the same thing in the SEC.
The only similarity with the two offenses I was making is that people said the same thing about Meyers offense....that it wouldn't work (not that the offense is similar in any way, but saying that it wouldn't work in the SEC).
Mississippi State and Tennessee would be bad examples for your case....they suffered 1,048 yards total.
Sure we lost to Kentucky, Arkansas, and LSU, but it wasn't stellar defensive play that stopped us overall. It was bad decisions, turnovers, sloppy play, penalties and most of all....2008 Chris Todd subbed in for 2009 Chris Todd.
I didn't see our o-line exhausted in the first quarter of all those games and I didn't see 300 lb d-lineman running 4.3 40's into the backfield to break up otherwise excellent plays. I saw an offensive group that lost confidence, focus, and their wills. Add to that some interesting play calling sometimes and it has just been ugly. But I don't think it's because Arkansas and Kentucky have defensive lines far superior to your average Big 12 defensive line.