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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Tarheel on April 15, 2009, 02:15:46 PM
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I like Governor Rick Perry of Texas but he's 148 years too late to be asking that question (see topic) and bringing up that issue; his words could have been taken as a quote from any given Southern governor in 1861. As it is, Fed Gov (and this current administration especially) is not interested in state's rights unless it's the right to perform gay marriage or use medical marijuana.
At any rate there's a current move in the Great State of Texas to resolve to support states' rights; presumably, to not be forced to take any conditional bailout, TARP, or 'stimulus' funds from Fed Gov (perhaps there's a resident X'er in Texas who can fill us in further on this issue from a local perspective?). I do appreciate the tone of this state movement; even though a war was fought over this very issue 148 years ago...perhaps it is time to revisit the question of constitutionality.
It certainly was attempted during the Bush Administration years due to the Patriot Act.
This is from Gov. Perry's office, just a bit dated (9 Apr); apologies if it has been discussed elsewhere:
Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment
HCR 50 Reiterates Texas’ Rights Over Powers Not Otherwise Granted to Federal Government
April 09, 2009
AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”
A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves. HCR 50 affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.
It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.
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More here:
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/ (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/)
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As much as I want this to proceed I am not very hopeful.
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“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”
I agree 100% whole heartedly with that statement and I hope that will gain momentum and other states will start to take notice and join in.
Honestly and thinking with my brain and not my heart. I have to second Saniflush on this one, I am not very hopeful that it will get any traction.
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I wonder why he didn't think of this while a TEXAN was in the White House?
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The entire idea of a state issuing a resolution to this affect is CRAZY.
I just have to ask the question, would we even be having this discussion if the other guy had of won in November? That leads to, "Do we really need to be having this damn discussion right now with all the other shit we have to deal with?".......this country needs some damn leadership in a hardway.
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The entire idea of a state issuing a resolution to this affect is CRAZY.
I just have to ask the question, would we even be having this discussion if the other guy had of won in November? That leads to, "Do we really need to be having this damn discussion right now with all the other shit we have to deal with?".......this country needs some damn leadership in a hardway.
I do agree with you JohnDeere. As much as I am in agreeance with the governor; this resolution, and his accompanying statement, is nothing more than a rhetorical device for stirring up a defiant emotion against Fed Gov (maybe he's up for reelection this year too).
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(maybe he's up for reelection this year too).
DING DING DING!!!! We has us a weiner, folks. And the governorship will be decided in the REPUBLICAN PRIMARY - Rick Perry will be facing off against none other than US Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison - and despite both being (R), they hate each other.
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DING DING DING!!!! We has us a weiner, folks. And the governorship will be decided in the REPUBLICAN PRIMARY - Rick Perry will be facing off against none other than US Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison - and despite both being (R), they hate each other.
AH-HA! I just knew that there was an ulterior motive at work here!
But I do like the spirit of the resolution anyway.
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AH-HA! I just knew that there was an ulterior motive at work here!
But I do like the spirit of the resolution anyway.
Yes, me too. This IS Texas, you know. Don't get much redder than us.
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Another state, Montana (I think), has something similar under consideration.
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Yes, me too. This IS Texas, you know. Don't get much redder necker than us.
I'm sorry, but I feel about Texas as you do about Tuscaloosa. :)
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I'm sorry, but I feel about Texas as you do about Tuscaloosa. :)
Well, I can tell when the wind is blowing from the northeast - it smells like inbred bacon. :moon:
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Well, I can tell when the wind is blowing from the northeast - it smells like inbred bacon. :moon:
Darling, the wind never blows in that direction. :sad:
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Yes, me too. This IS Texas, you know. Don't get much redder than us.
Apparently the Gov really stirred up some seccession trouble with the pitchforks, torches, and clingy gun-owners crowd at the Texas Tea Party crowds yesterday, excerpt from the Dallas Morning News:
Perry fires up anti-tax crowd
04/15/2009
By KELLEY SHANNON
Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"
An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall — one of three tea parties he was attending across the state — that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.
Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.
Perry called his supporters patriots. Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.
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Full article:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D97J48IO2.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D97J48IO2.html)
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Yes, me too. This IS Texas, you know. Don't get much redder than us.
Bad news for Gov. Perry's seccession movement, this is an excerpt from a Rasmussen survey, all emphasis is my own of course:
In Texas, 31% Say State Has Right to Secede From U.S., But 75% Opt To Stay
Friday, April 17, 2009
Thirty-one percent (31%) of Texas voters say that their state has the right to secede from the United States and form an independent country.
However, the latest Rasmussen Reports poll in the state finds that if the matter was put to a vote, it wouldn’t even be close. Three-fourths (75%) of Lone Star State voters would opt to remain in the United States. Only 18% would vote to secede, and seven percent (7%) are not sure what they'd choose.
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I'm left wondering what the heck is wrong with the 7 percent who just couldn't choose?!
Here's the rest of the article:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/states_general/texas/in_texas_31_say_state_has_right_to_secede_from_u_s_but_75_opt_to_stay (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/states_general/texas/in_texas_31_say_state_has_right_to_secede_from_u_s_but_75_opt_to_stay)
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Bad news for Gov. Perry's seccession movement, this is an excerpt from a Rasmussen survey, all emphasis is my own of course:
I'm left wondering what the heck is wrong with the 7 percent who just couldn't choose?!
Here's the rest of the article:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/states_general/texas/in_texas_31_say_state_has_right_to_secede_from_u_s_but_75_opt_to_stay (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/states_general/texas/in_texas_31_say_state_has_right_to_secede_from_u_s_but_75_opt_to_stay)
The survey wasn't in Spanish. Duh.
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The survey wasn't in Spanish. Duh.
Yo siento tan estúpido.
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The survey wasn't in Spanish. Duh.
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