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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: AUTiger1 on February 03, 2009, 10:20:58 AM
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All emphasis my own, I don't really nor should I say anything. Awww, hell, let me just mention a few key words, Nazi Germany, concentration camp, re-education camp, Nazi Pelosi, Gitmo, need I say more?
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Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for 'emergencies'
Sweeping, undefined purpose raises worries about military police state
Posted: February 01, 2009
7:19 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, DSocialist-Fla., has introduced to the House of Representatives a new bill, H.R. 645, calling for the secretary of homeland security to establish no fewer than six national emergency centers for corralling civilians on military installations.
The proposed bill, which has received little mainstream media attention,appears designed to create the type of detention center that those concerned about use of the military in domestic affairs fear could be used as concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany.
The bill also appears to expand the president's emergency power, much as the executive order signed by President Bush on May 9, 2007, that, as WND reported, gave the president the authority to declare an emergency and take over the direction of all federal, state, local, territorial and tribal governments without even consulting Congress.
As WND also reported, DHS has awarded a $385 million contract to Houston-based KBR, Halliburton's former engineering and construction subsidiary, to build temporary detention centers on an "as-needed" basis in national emergency situations.
According to the text of the proposed bill, the purpose of the National Emergency Centers is "to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster."
Three additional purposes are specified in the text of the proposed legislation:
* To provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of federal, state and local first responders;
* To provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response and recovery efforts of government, private, not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations;
* To meet other appropriate needs, as defined by the secretary of homeland security.
The broad specifications of the bill's language, however, contribute to concern that the "national emergency" purpose could be utilized by the secretary of homeland security to include any kind of situation the government wants to contain or otherwise control.
Rep. Hastings created controversy during the 2008 presidential campaign with his provocative comments concerning Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
"If Sarah Palin isn't enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention," Hastings said, as reported by ABC News. "Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87757 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87757)
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I wonder if that toting guns and stripping moose extends to toting a fishing rod and killing whitetail, dove, and turkey. If so then you know I must not care about "what they do to Jews and blacks". :taunt:
What's next, swastika wearing donkeys... high steppin' with Nazi Pelosi? Tarheel is going to blow his lid when he sees this one.
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I wonder if that toting guns and stripping moose extends to toting a fishing rod and killing whitetail, dove, and turkey. If so then you know I must not care about "what they do to Jews and blacks". :taunt:
What's next, swastika wearing donkeys... high steppin' with Nazi Pelosi? Tarheel is going to blow his lid when he sees this one.
First step of re-education is to provide the place to do so.
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After reading this article (which I assume is from a right leaning source), I was outraged. I did some research and checked some left leaning blogs, the left is outraged also by this. They are calling it "FEMA prisions" or some stupid shit like that.
So, I read the resolution itself at:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645)
I'm going to say it might be a good proposal, if instituted to the exact wording of the resolution.
Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--
(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;
Take old Ft. McClellan or Ft. Knox for example, when they close down a basic training post, there are hundreds/thousands of billets just setting empty. Why couldn't they have put Katrina refugees in these old basic training barracks instead of spending millions on FEMA trailer parks.
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Why couldn't they have put Katrina refugees in these old basic training barracks instead of spending millions on FEMA trailer parks.
because they won't be nice enough for the victims. Only our military.
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After reading this article (which I assume is from a right leaning source), I was outraged. I did some research and checked some left leaning blogs, the left is outraged also by this. They are calling it "FEMA prisions" or some stupid shit like that.
So, I read the resolution itself at:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645)
I'm going to say it might be a good proposal, if instituted to the exact wording of the resolution.
Take old Ft. McClellan or Ft. Knox for example, when they close down a basic training post, there are hundreds/thousands of billets just setting empty. Why couldn't they have put Katrina refugees in these old basic training barracks instead of spending millions on FEMA trailer parks.
Because all of the buses were flooded.
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http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_645.html (http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_645.html)
Not that it makes a flying fuck what you think, vote against it here and write your congressman.
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Take old Ft. McClellan or Ft. Knox for example, when they close down a basic training post, there are hundreds/thousands of billets just setting empty. Why couldn't they have put Katrina refugees in these old basic training barracks instead of spending millions on FEMA trailer parks.
Calhoun County residents tried - hundreds of people - including my parents - showed up at Ft McC to clean barracks for Katrina people. BUT -- your federal govt at work!! - the EPA, of all things, showed up and said that there had not been a recent environmental test done to see if there was any mold, asbestos, etc, and WOULD NOT LET THEM HOUSE ANYONE IN THE FRESHLY CLEANED BARRACKS!!!
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I wonder if that toting guns and stripping moose extends to toting a fishing rod and killing whitetail, dove, and turkey. If so then you know I must not care about "what they do to Jews and blacks". :taunt:
What's next, swastika wearing donkeys... high steppin' with Nazi Pelosi? Tarheel is going to blow his lid when he sees this one.
First step of re-education is to provide the place to do so.
After reading this article (which I assume is from a right leaning source), I was outraged. I did some research and checked some left leaning blogs, the left is outraged also by this. They are calling it "FEMA prisions" or some stupid shit like that.
So, I read the resolution itself at:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645)
I'm going to say it might be a good proposal, if instituted to the exact wording of the resolution.
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I read this article and it almost made me apoplectic with rage. On the surface the purpose and intent of the "camps" this bill will authorize is all well and good but the broad definition of "national emergency" coupled with the broad, and clearly un-constitutional, authority it gives to the DHS and it's head is vexing at best.
Fed-Gov, as an entity, is drunk with power right now and there are some very dangerous (and deliriously giddy) socialists working with The ONE. And, they think they have a mandate to do anything necessary "for the good of the people" as they see it (because they know how to take care of us better than we do). Especially during this financial crisis which gives them even more reasons to take sweeping action. I know that the left has said exactly the same thing about the evil Bush administration after the Patriot Act however most folk forget that fascism, Nazism, communism, and socialism arose from the left NOT the right. And it seems to me that everything the socialists are acting on as an entity is based on political motivations rather than real solutions; also making them dangerous in my opinion. Especially with little or no checks or balances but that's another rant.
Using camps like these is not unprecedented in this country during a time of war (FDR over-stepped his authority to intern Americans during WWII). I think that it sets a new precedent in a time of national emergency.
I am very concerned about the stated purpose "to meet other appropriate needs, as defined by the secretary of homeland security"; worrying indeed. When considered in terms of how Fed-Gov handled certain aspects of the Katrina hurricane aftermath such as using the "crisis" as a reason so suspend second amendment rights and confiscate lawfully owned rifles, shotguns, and handguns. Some of which Fed-Gov has yet to return to the rightful owners.
Having written that I have to temper my anger with the reality that it's always best to study the source when it comes to most things. In this case it's Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) who is an impeached judge and is as corrupt as the day is long. I think that this slime-ball politician will not have a snow-ball's chance in hell of getting a bill like this through the Congress without significant revisions if at all. The fact that the far left is all hot and bothered with it too is also encouraging that it's not going anywhere as is.
No, I think that Fed-Gov will work a little more subtly than this...like making it impossible to get ammunition first then slowly legislating away our liberty while we watch American Idol.
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I read this article and it almost made me apoplectic with rage.
I know that the left has said exactly the same thing about the evil Bush administration after the Patriot Act however most folk forget that fascism, Nazism, communism, and socialism arose from the left NOT the right.
I knew this one would get under your skin.
Tarheel: I can tell you that I have actually heard someone say "that damn right wing Johnson and the Vietnam War". Johnson? Right wing? I about fell out. A lot of people have a misconception of knowing that folks like Hitler, Marx, Stalin and many others were about as far left as they get.
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I knew this one would get under your skin.
Tarheel: I can tell you that I have actually heard someone say "that damn right wing Johnson and the Vietnam War". Johnson? Right wing? I about fell out. A lot of people have a misconception of knowing that folks like Hitler, Marx, Stalin and many others were about as far left as they get.
That is the kind of ignorance that really makes me go absolutely ballistic. And you know as well as I that the liberal entertainment media and Holly-weird elite continue to promote the fantasy through popular culture that this kind of oppression is "far right"!