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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 27, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
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Seeing more than just the standard rumor mills flying in regards to McElwain leaving after NSD for an NFL gig.
What have any of you heard?
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I'm hearing the same. From what I've picked up...Kevin Steele, Lance Thompson, Curt Cignetti, and Jim McElwain stood up to leave the Athletic Building at or around 10:45 on Christmas Eve. Coach $ proceded to cuss them out and threw one of his epic fits for wanting to be at home with their families. So, I'm hearing that McElwain decided to stay on until after Signing Day and Cignetti will be staying on to be the OC.
Thompson is now out there telling all the recruits, that'll listen, that McElwain is leaving....He's also telling them about Saban's "actual" plans for them. Many of the guys that Coach $ is telling that they'll be used one way, but plans to use them another way....or telling them that there's a spot open for playing time when he knows that there isn't. TIFWIW
The hilarious thing about this, well aside from uat losing another coordinator...if this is true, is that a bammer poster, on bOL (bammer On Line...that's uat's Rivals Message Board), posted the question about Jim McElwain......He has now been blacklisted for 3 days and the entire post deleted, LMFAO.
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either prowler is copy and pasting or he's posing as a bama fan on Tide Sports. Not that either of those are bad since I both copy and paste while posting as an auburn fan on that shit hole AUNation.
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The hilarious thing about this, well aside from uat losing another coordinator...if this is true, is that a bammer poster, on bOL (bammer On Line...that's uat's Rivals Message Board), posted the question about Jim McElwain......He has now been blacklisted for 3 days and the entire post deleted, LMFAO.
Yeah, I saw where that guy talked about getting a 3 day suspension on Rivals... He said any mention of that rumor on BOL will get you an immediate suspension and your posts deleted.... Took less than 2 minutes he said...hahaha..
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I hope it isn't true, but if it is, there isn't a damn thing I can do about it, so I'll deal.
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didn't a similar rumor come up about another Alabama coordinator like 2 weeks before signing day last year? i think it was Kevin Steele last time, and we were evil for misleading recruits and waiting until after NSD to tell them, blah blah blah. i guess its a popular thing to float right before NSD.
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didn't a similar rumor come up about another Alabama coordinator like 2 weeks before signing day last year? i think it was Kevin Steele last time, and we were evil for misleading recruits and waiting until after NSD to tell them, blah blah blah. i guess its a popular thing to float right before NSD.
Evidently F'baum said something about it on Jox this morning. Evidently it's gotten out that McElwain is not a fan of Saban's BS.
You can say it's rumor, but it's not like coaches HAVEN'T been leaving this time. We'll just have to see.
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This can't be true. I mean why would a coach want to get away from the Mighty Midget? He's a god, right?
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This can't be true. I mean why would a coach want to get away from the Mighty Midget? He's a god, right?
Well, one of the assistants recently hired has worked for CNS at LSU and Miami, so apparently CNS isn't that bad to work for, or maybe Sal Sunseri just hates himself. I'm sure Willis heard plenty about how horrible CNS is as well, and he didn't mind making a switch.
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Well, one of the assistants recently hired has worked for CNS at LSU and Miami, so apparently CNS isn't that bad to work for, or maybe Sal Sunseri just hates himself. I'm sure Willis heard plenty about how horrible CNS is as well, and he didn't mind making a switch.
Who was the other assistant that CNS hired that worked for him before, and where did he come to Alabama from?
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Who was the other assistant that CNS hired that worked for him before, and where did he come to Alabama from?
Sal Sunseri was hired to replace Kevin Steele. He worked with CNS at LSU, and to correct myself, he did not work with him at Miami. I guess I was thinking of somebody else who was rumored to be a candidate at the time. Anyway, he came to Alabama from the Jacksonville Jaguars. He began as a defensive assistant for them in 2002, and became the defensive line coach in 2003.
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Sal Sunseri was hired to replace Kevin Steele. He worked with CNS at LSU, and to correct myself, he did not work with him at Miami. I guess I was thinking of somebody else who was rumored to be a candidate at the time. Anyway, he came to Alabama from the Jacksonville Jaguars. He began as a defensive assistant for them in 2002, and became the defensive line coach in 2003.
Do you have a DC yet?
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Do you have a DC yet?
We never lost our DC, Kirby Smart.
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We never lost our DC, Kirby Smart.
My mistake. Who was Kevin Steele? LB's coach or something? (Are you going to tell me that while he didn't have the "coordinator" tag, that he wasn't the Defensive "head coach"...and was actually the DC in 2007?)
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My mistake. Who was Kevin Steele? LB's coach or something?
Mr. Assistant Head Coach. :&
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My mistake. Who was Kevin Steele? LB's coach or something? (Are you going to tell me that while he didn't have the "coordinator" tag, that he wasn't the Defensive "head coach"...and was actually the DC in 2007?)
He was the DC in 2007, and was the "Defensive Head Coach" in 2008. Basically, with the "Defensive Head Coach" tag, he was just an understudy of CNS imo. I think really all he did was handle the defensive coaches. When Steele was moved to Defensive Head Coach, Kirby Smart (who came with CNS from Miami) was moved to DC.
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He was the DC in 2007, and was the "Defensive Head Coach" in 2008. Basically, with the "Defensive Head Coach" tag, he was just an understudy of CNS imo. I think really all he did was handle the defensive coaches. When Steele was moved to Defensive Head Coach, Kirby Smart (who came with CNS from Miami) was moved to DC.
SO, in other words, he was, what is in every other school in the nation, Defensive Coordinator.
Is CNS going to replace him, or is he just going to remain an unfilled hole on the staff?
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SO, in other words, he was, what is in every other school in the nation, Defensive Coordinator.
Is CNS going to replace him, or is he just going to remain an unfilled hole on the staff?
Here's the thing: Kirby Smart was the one calling the defensive shots in 08, per CNS. While you and I both know CNS had a hand in it and everything filtered through him anyway, Smart was the one calling the shots. It never was entirely clear what exactly Steele's job was as Defensive Head Coach, except that he handled the day to day management of the defensive staff. From what I always understood, he wanted to make a run at the NFL again or possibly be a college HC again one day. He was head coach at Baylor for like 3 years and won 9 games, so it wasn't a great experience. As stupid as it sounds, he was pretty much just training to try and go on to bigger and better things. The two vacancies were created by Kevin Steele and Lance Thompson. Sal Sunseri was hired first, and James Willis was hired second. I don't know if anybody will get that Defensive Head Coach tag again really. If I had to guess I would assume somebody would.
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Here's the thing: Kirby Smart was the one calling the defensive shots in 08, per CNS. While you and I both know CNS had a hand in it and everything filtered through him anyway, Smart was the one calling the shots. It never was entirely clear what exactly Steele's job was as Defensive Head Coach, except that he handled the day to day management of the defensive staff. From what I always understood, he wanted to make a run at the NFL again or possibly be a college HC again one day. He was head coach at Baylor for like 3 years and won 9 games, so it wasn't a great experience. As stupid as it sounds, he was pretty much just training to try and go on to bigger and better things. The two vacancies were created by Kevin Steele and Lance Thompson. Sal Sunseri was hired first, and James Willis was hired second. I don't know if anybody will get that Defensive Head Coach tag again really. If I had to guess I would assume somebody would.
The last sentence was the only answer required. Thanks.
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The last sentence was the only answer required. Thanks.
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Best T-Shirt site on teh internets BTW....
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Best T-Shirt site on teh internets BTW....
Sie verstehen nicht.
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Nr. sie nicht
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Nr. sie nicht
Traurig, Du verstehst nicht.
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Traurig, Du verstehst nicht.
someday...somehow...my high school german class would prove worthy.
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Traurig, Du verstehst nicht.
Nun Sohn einer Hündin dann. Deutsch sucks sowieso.
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Sal is coming by way of the Carolina Panthers as their DL Coach. It's being reported that he'll coach the ILB Positions while Willis will be coaching the OLB Positions.
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Still waiting..........
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waiting for what?
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Still waiting..........
On this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOBMzMTP4U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOBMzMTP4U)
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waiting for what?
Still waiting for this McElwain shit to materialize. All the message board rumors were saying it was going to be the day after NSD.
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Still waiting for this McElwain shit to materialize. All the message board rumors were saying it was going to be the day after NSD.
What I've heard is that it could be up to 2 weeks after signing day. Have fun waiting for up to 2 weeks.
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What I've heard is that it could be up to 2 weeks after signing day. Have fun waiting for up to 2 weeks.
Of course, of course......You guys are so predictable.
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You guys? I've never stated the day after signing day. I think that's just something that you got in you little head, that when it doesn't happen the very next day, I'm not saying that it's going to happen, you can come over here and pound your chest like you just won a track meet in the Special Olympics.
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You guys? I've never stated the day after signing day. I think that's just something that you got in you little head, that when it doesn't happen the very next day, I'm not saying that it's going to happen, you can come over here and pound your chest like you just won a track meet in the Special Olympics.
Gene Chizik will be gone at the end of the season. I didn't say which season, so technically whenever it happens, I will be right. You said:
So, I'm hearing that McElwain decided to stay on until after Signing Day and Cignetti will be staying on to be the OC.
That pretty much says that you think its going to happen. But I guess that little "I heard" (which really means "I copy/pasted from another message board), in your mind, excuses you from it. Normally, when you repeat an "I heard", one would assume that in some way, shape, or form you agree with the statement unless you otherwise state that you do not. Thats my take from it, anyway. McElwain hates CNS SO much that he's going to be a team player and stay on for NSD to help CNS out and then leave? Doesn't make much sense, but OK.
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Gene Chizik will be gone at the end of the season. I didn't say which season, so technically whenever it happens, I will be right. You said:
That pretty much says that you think its going to happen. But I guess that little "I heard" (which really means "I copy/pasted from another message board), in your mind, excuses you from it. Normally, when you repeat an "I heard", one would assume that in some way, shape, or form you agree with the statement unless you otherwise state that you do not. Thats my take from it, anyway. McElwain hates CNS SO much that he's going to be a team player and stay on for NSD to help CNS out and then leave? Doesn't make much sense, but OK.
No, you dumbfuck, when someone states...."That's what I'm hearing, or this is what I've heard" doesn't necessarily mean that, said person, believes what was heard or what was being rumored to be heard. I guess before I post what I've heard that instead of saying "this is what I'm hearing", I should state....TIFWIW, it's the same God Damn thing except for people that are reading imparied. BTW, I didn't copy/paste anything, from another message board, not that it would take away anything from what is being rumored, I just posted what I was hearing from multiple message boards.
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No, you dumbfuck, when someone states...."That's what I'm hearing, or this is what I've heard" doesn't necessarily mean that, said person, believes what was heard or what was being rumored to be heard. I guess before I post what I've heard that instead of saying "this is what I'm hearing", I should state....TIFWIW, it's the same God Damn thing except for people that are reading imparied. BTW, I didn't copy/paste anything, from another message board, not that it would take away anything from what is being rumored, I just posted what I was hearing from multiple message boards.
Maybe posting wild ass unfounded speculation from other message boards is a failed strategy?
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Maybe posting wild ass unfounded speculation from other message boards is a failed strategy?
Agreed.
Rumors, rumors, rumors and INSIDE SOURCES are pointless. Let's wait until it happens or doesn't happen then discuss it.
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Agreed.
Rumors, rumors, rumors and INSIDE SOURCES are pointless. Let's wait until it happens or doesn't happen then discuss it.
Hell no. I want to be first. I want people to stand in awe of my Itoldyousoidness.
I'm hungry for BBQ
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Hell no. I want to be first. I want people to stand in awe of my Itoldyousoidness.
I'm hungry for BBQ
Shhhhh...
Don't say BBQ. Some people around here will point at you and go TUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAABERVILLEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! You'll be a pariah.
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No, you dumbfuck, when someone states...."That's what I'm hearing, or this is what I've heard" doesn't necessarily mean that, said person, believes what was heard or what was being rumored to be heard. I guess before I post what I've heard that instead of saying "this is what I'm hearing", I should state....TIFWIW, it's the same God Damn thing except for people that are reading imparied. BTW, I didn't copy/paste anything, from another message board, not that it would take away anything from what is being rumored, I just posted what I was hearing from multiple message boards.
I wouldn't think most people post some shit unless they believe it to some degree. For example, if I see some shit up on a message board and I choose to re-post that somewhere else, that is usually a sign that I believe it to some degree. That is, unless I post it and THEN say "....but this sounds pretty far fetched." or something like that. Shit that you say hardly ever pans out and then you try to back out of it when you get called on it. MAYBE if you didn't always post pure speculation and bullshit off of message boards and try to make it sound like you actually know something firsthand, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Did I start the thread dumbass? Nope, I just stated that I'd heard the same thing, then I added what I'd heard. I don't think Coach McElwain will leave, maybe after next year...hell he might be there for a long time, who the fuck knows...All, I did was post what I'd heard, rumor or not...Message board or not, if you think that information that gets past around from message boards are false, then you really need to open your eyes. As for "shit that I say hardly every panning out and then being called on it." Give me a quote where I state, I know this is going to happen because I saw it first hand. Whenever someone states....If you're too fuckin' dumb to know that whenever someone states.."This is what I've heard" or "This is what I'm hearing"..that the information is a rumor, then you have problems. Also, never did I state, "his is from a reliable source" or "I know this information to be true, because the person that told me is usually correct", so keep looking like a retard and I'll keep sitting here laugh at you.
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Did I start the thread dumbass? Nope, I just stated that I'd heard the same thing, then I added what I'd heard. I don't think Coach McElwain will leave, maybe after next year...hell he might be there for a long time, who the fuck knows...All, I did was post what I'd heard, rumor or not...Message board or not, if you think that information that gets past around from message boards are false, then you really need to open your eyes. As for "shit that I say hardly every panning out and then being called on it." Give me a quote where I state, I know this is going to happen because I saw it first hand. Whenever someone states....If you're too fuckin' dumb to know that whenever someone states.."This is what I've heard" or "This is what I'm hearing"..that the information is a rumor, then you have problems. Also, never did I state, "his is from a reliable source" or "I know this information to be true, because the person that told me is usually correct", so keep looking like a retard and I'll keep sitting here laugh at you.
Its aaaaaaall in the delivery. Just take the Gerald West thing for example. You post that bullshit from some other message board, then you support the fact that you believe it by in another thread saying "Damn, that sounds like something that Coach $ would do....Oh wait, he did do that, see Gerald West." Apparently you take it as fact because you presented it as such in another thread. Hell, you maintained for months that Trent Richardson was decommitting to go to LSU or UF, I guess which way he was going depended on how you felt that day. Comments such as "And yes, Trent Richardson will look good in Orange and Blue (UF) come next year." really make me believe that you think the shit you read on message boards/spew is good stuff.
And you think I'm looking like a retard? Goddamn dude, I've seen your picture. You are a poster child.
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You're a towel.
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You're a towel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rd3Wx5EyFw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rd3Wx5EyFw)
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Its aaaaaaall in the delivery. Just take the Gerald West thing for example. You post that bullshit from some other message board, then you support the fact that you believe it by in another thread saying "Damn, that sounds like something that Coach $ would do....Oh wait, he did do that, see Gerald West." Apparently you take it as fact because you presented it as such in another thread. Hell, you maintained for months that Trent Richardson was decommitting to go to LSU or UF, I guess which way he was going depended on how you felt that day. Comments such as "And yes, Trent Richardson will look good in Orange and Blue (UF) come next year." really make me believe that you think the shit you read on message boards/spew is good stuff.
And you think I'm looking like a retard? Goddamn dude, I've seen your picture. You are a poster child.
You sure about that rws?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8VaJL-s3Q&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8VaJL-s3Q&feature=channel)
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You sure about that rws?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8VaJL-s3Q&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8VaJL-s3Q&feature=channel)
That may be the dumbest video I have ever seen...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mlch97EQDA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mlch97EQDA)
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You sure about that rws?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8VaJL-s3Q&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8VaJL-s3Q&feature=channel)
Seeing as how that is not me, yeah, I'm pretty sure. I am also sure that you still look like a retard. I also see that you didn't even want to attempt to discuss the examples that I gave you.
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The Gerald West story was one that looked to me like the famous $abahr, you shop we shop type deal. As for the Richardson story, that was what I was hearing....Months ago, not just the past couple of weeks, when it was being rumored that TR had de-commited and gave a silent commitment to UF and that was why uat was going after Eddie Lacy. FWIW, I believed the TR story more than the GW one, I was just ribbing you on the GW story figuring that you had thick skin, guess I was wrong about that. As for the TR story, I believed it even more, when uat got Lacy's commitment, I figured that was the tell tale sign that uat had lost out on Trent.
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The Gerald West story was one that looked to me like the famous $abahr, you shop we shop type deal. As for the Richardson story, that was what I was hearing....Months ago, not just the past couple of weeks, when it was being rumored that TR had de-commited and gave a silent commitment to UF and that was why uat was going after Eddie Lacy. FWIW, I believed the TR story more than the GW one, I was just ribbing you on the GW story figuring that you had thick skin, guess I was wrong about that. As for the TR story, I believed it even more, when uat got Lacy's commitment, I figured that was the tell tale sign that uat had lost out on Trent.
The "you shop, we shop" quote was directed to a question about commits or players on the team who might think of jumping ship when CNS was hired. This was not a recruiting philosophy, and quite frankly, would be a hard philosophy to live by in recruiting. He was simply replying when a reporter asked what his thoughts were if current commits jumped ship or players transfered at one of his first press conferences. But hey, go ahead, keep putting it into whatever context is convenient for you. I know you're not a big fan of facts and reason.
If you knew anything, you would have known that Eddie Lacy was more than likely going to JUCO from the word go. Thats not an issue that JUST appeared, that has been a known issue for a LONG time. We have a stable of RBs so we can afford to have him go to JUCO, as there is not an immediate need for somebody to step in right now. Personally, I don't feel that Lacy was recruited all that hard by the staff and he wasn't a factor as they felt comfortable with TR. Lacy's commitment was never contingent on what TR was going to do, as Lacy knew he was JUCO bound anyway. If you didn't know Lacy's grades were an issue from the beginning, then you get your info from some shitty message boards.
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I knew Lacy's grades were and still are an issue....but I figured that since he's signed with uat that they can "help" him make it in. Unless his grades are Really bad, if that's the case, then they can "help" him make it in to Prep School.
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I knew Lacy's grades were and still are an issue....but I figured that since he's signed with uat that they can "help" him make it in. Unless his grades are Really bad, if that's the case, then they can "help" him make it in to Prep School.
Of course. :taunt:
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I knew Lacy's grades were and still are an issue....but I figured that since he's signed with uat that they can "help" him make it in. Unless his grades are Really bad, if that's the case, then they can "help" him make it in to Prep School.
I hope we can "help" a couple of our guys get in school...
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At the end of round ten, this judge's scorecard has it 68-64 rws.
The scissors was penalized a point for trotting out the lamest justification of Saban's famous "you shop we shop" line. Not only does he have the context wrong, but he has the timing wrong as well.
Still, the body blows landed by rws on the West and Richardson topics are piling up.
The Punch-Meter shows RWS hitting 74% of his shots (94 of 128) while Prowler is landing 56% (52 of 93).
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The scissors was penalized a point for trotting out the lamest justification of Saban's famous "you shop we shop" line. Not only does he have the context wrong, but he has the timing wrong as well.
Please, enlighten me, what was the context and the timing of the comment?
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Please, enlighten me, what was the context and the timing of the comment?
And that's going to be another penalty point assessed to RWS. He was winning this fight handily, but failing to follow the judge's instructions could result in a DQ.
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At the end of round ten, this judge's scorecard has it 68-64 rws.
The scissors was penalized a point for trotting out the lamest justification of Saban's famous "you shop we shop" line. Not only does he have the context wrong, but he has the timing wrong as well.
Still, the body blows landed by rws on the West and Richardson topics are piling up.
The Punch-Meter shows RWS hitting 74% of his shots (94 of 128) while Prowler is landing 56% (52 of 93).
Puff Puff give, sir.
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Puff Puff give, sir.
You ever seen a boxing match scored? It makes no sense to me.
Neither does most of this thread.
It's like two tree sloths fighting with tasers.
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You ever seen a boxing match scored? It makes no sense to me.
Neither does most of this thread.
It's like two tree sloths fighting with tasers.
I saw a bunch of posted videos and arguing...then I went outside for a smoke.
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I saw a bunch of posted videos and arguing...then I went outside for a smoke.
It's really more like two gummy bears fighting with marshmallows.
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It's like two tree sloths fighting with tasers.
I'm glad you rephrased this statement with this
It's really more like two gummy bears fighting with marshmallows.
because the former statement would just be impossible. See, tree sloths (whether you're talking about two toed sloths, seen here, looking quite seductive, I might add)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/BlogAbroad/DoleGodiva050.jpg)
(or three toed sloths, seen here)
(http://www.iwokrama.org/management/images/roadzone-sloth.jpg)
have these very hard toenails that are actually extensions of their hands/feet. It would be virtually impossible for them to handle a taser (seen here, in a life size model)
(http://unpopulartruths.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/taser.jpg)
due to the fact that the butt of the gun just wouldn't fit in between their toes. In fact, the genus name of sloths is Choloepus , and when translated into English it literally means "lame foot".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-toed_sloth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-toed_sloth)
Does anybody really think that anything with a lame foot can hold a taser? I think not.
So, in closing, I really have to take a shit, and I think it might be diarrhea, but my hot coworker is stationed right by our single bathroom so it looks like I'll be squirting until I get home.
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Hence the reference to sloths and tasers. The implication seems to be that the combatants in said exchange above, possess not the capabilities to wage a, shall we say, "Vicious brawl". Therefore, as was aptly detailed in your presentation, an adversarial confrontation between sloths wielding only the taser as their weapon of choice, would be anything but adversarial. One would not fear loss of life or limb should they come between the two warriors whilst engaged in "Battle".
Oh..and I hope that whole shit thing works out for ya'.