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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on December 09, 2008, 11:36:48 PM
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What say you????
Tulsa's Graham has popped in this evening as a candidate.... Seems like we're adding a candidate per day now....
Who do you all believe it's going to be?
I think it'll be Gill, Patterson or Johnson, and maybe even Dooley from LA Tech....
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I have a very bad feeling about this and i think the new HC will be Houston Nutt. May God have mercy on us
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I have a very bad feeling about this and i think the new HC will be Houston Nutt. May God have mercy on us
You wouldn't be alone in your feelings, but I think you can feel good knowing he's probably staying at Ole Miss.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/12/05/nutt.mississippi.ap/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/12/05/nutt.mississippi.ap/index.html)
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I think it's between Turner Gill, Derek Dooley and Brady Hoke. I would be happy with any of those 3. Muschamp is not going to come to Auburn as long as Jay Jacobs is the ad. Jimbo Fisher has a 5 million dollar buy out, Bobby Petrino has a clause in his contract that he cant go to another Sec West school if he does he owes Arkansas over 11 million dollar buyout. That takes away those 3 candidates so I will stick with my top 3 above.
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I predict that nobody knows anything and these are all just random shots in the dark.
I predict that a Houston Nutt hire would backfire so badly with fans and result in such turmoil that Jacobs would lose his job -- along with several other people. If Houston freaking Nutt is the best Jacobs can do, then he's not worthy of being Auburn's parking monitor, much less AD.
I hope there are names that have not been fed to the media and that Jacobs is working off a different list that no one knows about. But I may hope for too much. From my perspective, Jacobs has botched every face-to-face discussion in his history as AD.
Houston Nutt, Derrick Dooley, Billy Graham, Patrick Nix, Rodney Garner, Brodie Hokey... Fuck a duck. That sounds like a list for Mississippi State, Idaho, Central Florida, Pitt or some half-ass team like that.
Saban, Richt, Spurrier, Meyer and...... with any of those names we're basically laying down and embracing second-tier status.
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The latest leading candidate that seems to be edging Gill out (at least in the rumor mill) is Spurrier.
Now, if I'm making the hire, I still go Gill. I want his character and up-and-coming freshness.
BUT
I have no doubt Spurrier will do just fine recruiting against Teh Sabun. Yeah, his image is tarnishing at SC, but there's no doubt about it: SC is where Hall Of Fame coaches go to die. As big of an idiot Dr. Lou Holthz appears to be now, there's no questioning he was a fantastic coach...until he went to SC and he couldn't win to save his life. Same goes for Spurrier, although he actually has turned them around the tiniest bit. I think if he comes to a "Top Half" SEC school such as Auburn, he'll be back on top. I mean, he's got "the name." There's no doubt he's the "Rock Star" big-splash hire many want for Auburn. Auburn looks like crap right now. Hiring a big name like Spurrier would give us some positive media attention.
Another good thing is he doesn't fuck around. If you're not pulling your weight, you sit the fucking bench. Also, he has always run a clean and respectable well-disciplined program.
On top of all of this, he is king of shit-talkers. I wouldn't mind seeing what laughs he could provide me at the expense of Saban. If the holding up fingers thing drove bammers nuts, just think what Spurrier could do for them. And don't forget the fact that he was probably #1 on their wish-list when they ended up getting Nick Almighty.
All that being said, I still want Gill. I still think it's kind of bammerish to try to go for the "name" and live off the success they had at another program instead of being the program that builds the legend. I think we can be that with Gill.
Just saying, if we're trying to go that route, I won't cry over landing Spurrier.
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I would cry a LOT! Spurrier is washed up.
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I think part of what did tubs in is that the coaching talent level in the league rose substantially during his tenure while he backslid if anything. So, yeah, I think we need a really freaking good hire to keep pace as kaos says.
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I would cry a LOT! Spurrier is washed up.
Washed up? I don't necessarily think so. I don't think there is any chance of bringing Spurrier in, but here are the positives:
1) He is one of the most competitive bastards in human history. He aches to win.
2) He hates the dynasty Meyer is building at Florida because in his mind Meyer is doing it against lesser competition and it takes away from his greatness.
3) When he left UF he was considered one of the greatest coaches in football history. He hasn't maintained that because he made two bad choices -- Redskins and Cocks. Washington was a no-win situation and you just can't win at South Carolina.
4) He's done a good job at Carolina given the situation -- you can't recruit to there, you have no base, facilities are second-rate and support from the administration is lukewarm at best.
5) Auburn is set up to win already. Tuberville proved it is a program where big-time, top ten type success is possible.
6) Spurrier knows that the media still has a chub for him because any time SC wins a couple of games they vault into the Top Ten.
7) Combine Spurrier's reputation with Auburn's facilities and money and there's a chance for him to regain his stature, vanquish Meyer and prove -- in his last coaching stop -- that he's still got what it takes.
8) Spurrier's relationship with the SC brass is tenuous at best. They hate him, he hates them. He'd be certain to make sure that wasn't the case at AU.
9) Based on the names floating around -- Hokey, GrahamCracker, Dooley, Nix and Garner -- it's pretty clear that this is a real dud year for available coaches. Spurrier is a short-term solution (five years max) but would allow AU to find the superstar in the making and bring them in the way FSU did Fisher.
I see it as a potential win-win situation for both. But I don't see any way it happens.
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I just wish that they would make a fucking decision and lets move on. It would be nice to have a FULL coaching staff in place once the dead period in recruiting is over. If we don't, we will be pulling alot of SunBelt/Conference USA talent this year.
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The latest names to emerge, according to my source close to the situation, are:
Bob Davie
Bill Curry
Lee Corso
Fiddy Cent
I'll get back to you when I hear less.
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The latest names to emerge, according to my source close to the situation, are:
Bob Davie
Bill Curry
Lee Corso
Fiddy Cent
I'll get back to you when I hear less.
DMX took himself out of the running this morning.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2008/12/09/20081209B1-talker1210.html (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2008/12/09/20081209B1-talker1210.html)
From his cell in Arizona he issued this statement:
Grrrrrrr. Woof, Woof, Woof motherfucker.
(http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/08/01/03_dmx_lgl.jpg)
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The latest names to emerge, according to my source close to the situation, are:
Bob Davie
Bill Curry
Lee Corso
Fiddy Cent
I'll get back to you when I hear less.
I'm gonna need you to list your sources so I can verify.
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I'm gonna need you to list your sources so I can verify.
Alright, alright, alright. So, I made Bill Curry up.
Sheesh, a guy tries to interject a little humor and he gets crucified for it.
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Alright, alright, alright. So, I made Bill Curry up.
Sheesh, a guy tries to interject a little humor and he gets crucified for it.
Jim Donnan will not be pleased with the competition.
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If we don't, we will be pulling alot of SunBelt/Conference USA talent this year.
Looking at your QBs and WRs you might want to get SunBelt and/or C-USA talent to improve those units.
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Looking at your QBs and WRs you might want to get SunBelt and/or C-USA talent to improve those units.
Don't knock the SunBelt around this guy. He will defend their superiority till he's blue in the face. I've seen it.
:taunt:
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However, there is truth in his statement. Our WR's suck donkey balls.
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Gill Article, I really was a big proponent of Charlie Strong, however the more I read about Gill the more I like.
Check this out
Blog...The Case for Turner Gill
By Gabe Harris
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Dec 10, 2008
Auburn University is at a crossroads in regards to its athletic program. It has a chance to make a statement that will resonate nationally, unite its fanbase, and prove once again that character and winning football can go hand in hand.
Auburn football is looking for a new head coach and whether or not you think the previous coach resigned or was fired, the facts are that after ten years Tommy Tuberville will no longer be on the sidelines.
Tommy Tuberville was never a favorite of certain powers that be at Auburn and one bad season was the opening they were looking for to finally push him out the door, a door that was unsuccessfully closed by Auburn people in 2003.
Now, Auburn men and women have another chance to force the hand of people who claim to have the university's best interests at heart. This hire will prove whether or not that is true. To his credit, Tommy Tuberville was never a "yes man" and it proved to be his downfall. If Auburn wants the status quo, then they should go out and hire an underqualified alumnus like Patrick Nix or Rodney Garner (they have already done that with their athletic director so it would be fitting). Or they can choose to pay another multi-million dollar buyout to Jimbo Fisher or risk giving the highest-paid internship in history to Will Muschamp before he takes over as head coach at the University of Texas.
What Auburn should do is think outside the box and bring in someone that will move Auburn forward, send a message to the SEC and the country, bring together a fractured fanbase, and hire the best and most qualified candidate.
Auburn should hire Turner Gill as its 26th head football coach.
Gill never lost a conference game as the starting quarterback for the Nebraska Cornhuskers, led his team to the national championship game and was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.
During his time as a student-athlete at Nebraska, Gill earned the Tom Novak Award for Outstanding Leaadership and Character as well as the Herbert Marshall Award for leadership. He has been inducted into the Nebraska Football Hall of Fame, was a three-time All Big Eight selection, and was the MVP of the Orange Bowl and Kickoff Classic. A multi-talented athlete, Gill also spent three seasons in the minor league systems of the Detroit Tigers and Cleveland Indians.
He received his bachelor’s degree in Behavior Analysis from the University of North Texas in 1990.
Gill has served as a Spokesperson for the United Way and as honorary chairman for Cystic Fibrosis, the American Heart Association and the American Diabetes Association. In addition, he is a also a board member of the Lincoln (NE) Children’s Musuem.
During his tenure as an assistant coach with the Nebraska Cornhuskers from 1992-2004 under Tom Osborne, Frank Solich and Bill Callahan, Gill served as quarterbacks coach from 1992-2002, was named assistant head coach in 2003 and served as the wide receivers coach in 2004. In 2002, he was a finalist for the Frank Broyles Award, given annually to the top assistant coach in the nation. Nebraska won three national titles during his time in Lincoln. Gill was rated one of the top ten recruiters in the nation in 2000 and 2001 by ESPN.com. He coached from Tommie Frazier, Jamaal Lord and 2001 Heisman Trophy winner Eric Crouch.
Crouch, Frazier and Lord rank as the top three total career offense leaders in Nebraska history. In addition to the Heisman Trophy, Crouch also won the Walter Camp Award (top player in the nation) and the Davey O’Brien Award (nation’s top quarterback) as well as being a first-team All-American in 2001.
In addition to Crouch's exploits; Frazier was also a first-team All-American, Johnny Unitas Award winner and Heisman Trophy finalist in 1995 and led Nebraska to back-to-back national championships in 1994 and 1995. Frazier and Crouch were named Big 12 Offensive Players of the Year while Frazier was named Big 12 Conference Offensive Newcomer of the Year in 1996.
Gill was the Player Development Director and an offensive assistant with the Green Bay Packers in 2005 prior to being named the University of Buffalo's head coach prior to the 2006 season.
In his three seasons as head coach at Buffalo took a team that won ten games in its first seven seasons prior to Gill's arrival and turned them into the 2008 Mid-American Conference Champions. Gill was named MAC Coach of the Year during the 2007 season. A season in which Buffalo finished 5-3 in conference play including a share of the MAC East Division championship.
At Buffalo, Gill has coached fourteen players selected All-MAC after the Bulls had just seven in their first eight years of conference play. Buffalo has also had seventeen MAC Players of the Week.
Gill also served as the offensive coordinator and has directed an offense that has rewritten the record books at Buffalo.
Gill is a proven head coach with an offensive background which is what Auburn needs right now. His experience as a dual-threat quarterback at Nebraska coupled with his experience coaching some of the greatest dual-threat quarterbacks in history will lend itself well to the development of Kodi Burns and other quarterbacks on Auburn's roster.
The main argument against Gill is that he does not have familiarity with the SEC and the recruiting area. This argument is baseless. He recruited Tommie Frazier and and others out of Florida to Nebraska. There are players from Florida, Tennessee and North Carolina on Buffalo's roster. Not to mention multiple players from as far away as San Diego and Texas.
Gill will increase Auburn's footprint nationally with his ties to Texas (his home state), the midwest and the northeast. He is a smart coach and will surround himself with knowledgeable people in Auburn's current recruiting area. Not to mention the fact that on and off the field, he is the most like Tommy Tuberville of all the candidates and will have the best chance of holding this recruiting class together.
Urban Meyer, Nick Saban and Les Miles did not have any experience in the SEC or coaching at large southern schools prior to their first head coaching jobs in the SEC. They coached at Bowling Green, Utah, Notre Dame, Kent State, Michigan State, Michigan and Oklahoma State. What do they have in common? They are the last three SEC coaches to win a national title. Not to mention the long list of coaches that have played in the SEC and subsequently failed as coaches at an SEC school.
Auburn made a rash decision in its handling of Tommy Tuberville after this season and the continued song and dance routine after every off-season was getting old for both Auburn and Tuberville. Now is the time to correct that mistake with a statement hire. Turner Gill is going to be a head coach at a BCS school sooner rather than later. Auburn has a chance to be that school.
Auburn's priorities regarding the athletic program are about to come to light. Are they going to hire the right man for the job and for Auburn or the man who is right for the money men on the Board of Trustees? Time will tell. The Auburn football program's future depends on it.
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I read that same article - got total goose bumps.
So now one of two things will happen:
1. That puss Jay Jacobs will hire Turner Gill because the fans and alum and the media are telling him to, and he will feel all powerless and forced into a decision and will then make Gill's life a living hell out of spite.
OR
2. That puss Jay Jacobs will refuse to hire Turner Gill because the fans and alum and the media are telling him to, and just to be all spiteful and show us all who is really boss, he will make another shitty coaching decision to the continued detriment of Auburn just to save face and prove he is nobody's yes man, when we all know he can describe the exact flavor and texture of Bobby Lowder's bowel movements.
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I just read all I need to know... all hail Sir Charles!!
Gill’s name first surfaced in connection with the Auburn job when former NBA great Charles Barkley wholeheartedly endorsed him in a radio interview last week.
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GOD DAMN IT!!!!! IF Auburn doesn't hire Turner Gill.....I'm gonna be fuckin pissed. If they hire him...then handcuff him, then Auburn/The Gov. needs to fire ALL of the Big Money MUTHA FUCKERS, and the Jays. If it takes my beloved Auburn team getting their teeth kicked down their throats for a few years, b/c TPTB royally fucked the pooch, then I'd have no problem suffering through those years....It'd Suck, but if Auburn comes out better in the end, then it would be worth it.
War "MUTHA FUCKIN" EaGill!!!!!!!!
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I have a very bad feeling about this and i think the new HC will be Houston Nutt. May God have mercy on us
Close. AU's new HC will be Danny Nutt. As RB coach, and up until his latest bwain bweed - that he never used any "Sick Time' for - he taught DMac and Felix, taught them everything they know, including their speed. He has lots of coaching experience. Hell, as late as this year's OM/LSU game, he was coaching up a storm. He'd be a great "Get" for AU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH6qqjS-iyk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH6qqjS-iyk)
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We wouldn't be able to trust him around all our on campus "puthy".
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Sell us on Gary Patterson Kaos....
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Sell us on Gary Patterson Kaos....
It's an easy sell, hoss.
Five ten-win seasons in the last seven.
Before he took over as HC, TCU had one ten-win season since 1938. That was the season he was assistant HC to Fran and obviously carried that whiny fuck -- and made him a rich man.
In all eight of Patterson's seasons as head coach, TCU scored more points per season than all but the three best of Tuberville's ten.
In his first nine years, Tuberville's teams allowed an average of 16 points per game.
In his first seven years, Patterson's teams allowed 20 points per game.
Patterson beat Oklahoma in 2005, Texas Tech in 2006, Stanford (who beat USC) in 2007, Vandy in 2003, Louisville in 2003 and 2004. He's played in big games. Lost some, but won most.
He's had ONE losing season in his career. Followed that with back-to-back ten-win seasons.
Been invited to eight bowls in nine years.
Four conference titles.
And he's a defense-first coach. Was TCUs defensive coordinator 1998-2000. Team allowed an average of 16 ppg under Patterson.
Helped recruit LaDanian (I think).
Was an assistant at ten different schools, learning the ropes, before he got the TCU head job when Fran left.
Four times in the Top 25 final rankings -- at TCfuckingU
Was offered $2m a year by Minnesota to take their HC job. Turned it down to stay at TCU for half the salary. TCU went 10-2 this season.
His resume is at least as good as Meyer's -- who was at flipping Utah when he came to UF.
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It's an easy sell, hoss.
Five ten-win seasons in the last seven.
Before he took over as HC, TCU had one ten-win season since 1938. That was the season he was assistant HC to Fran and obviously carried that whiny fuck -- and made him a rich man.
In all eight of Patterson's seasons as head coach, TCU scored more points per season than all but the three best of Tuberville's ten.
In his first nine years, Tuberville's teams allowed an average of 16 points per game.
In his first seven years, Patterson's teams allowed 20 points per game.
Patterson beat Oklahoma in 2005, Texas Tech in 2006, Stanford (who beat USC) in 2007, Vandy in 2003, Louisville in 2003 and 2004. He's played in big games. Lost some, but won most.
He's had ONE losing season in his career. Followed that with back-to-back ten-win seasons.
Been invited to eight bowls in nine years.
Four conference titles.
And he's a defense-first coach. Was TCUs defensive coordinator 1998-2000. Team allowed an average of 16 ppg under Patterson.
Helped recruit LaDanian (I think).
Was an assistant at ten different schools, learning the ropes, before he got the TCU head job when Fran left.
Four times in the Top 25 final rankings -- at TCfuckingU
Was offered $2m a year by Minnesota to take their HC job. Turned it down to stay at TCU for half the salary. TCU went 10-2 this season.
His resume is at least as good as Meyer's -- who was at flipping Utah when he came to UF.
I agree, but for the love of Christ, can't we hire a coach before 2010?
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Patterson?
Never heard of him.
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Patterson?
Never heard of him.
What the hell are you doing here?
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I thought that was you.
You posted a link a while back.
Good luck with the coaching search, seriously. I'll be surprised if Auburn doesn't land a very good one.
Start a new streak next year.... Buck Fama.
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I thought that was you.
You posted a link a while back.
Good luck with the coaching search, seriously. I'll be surprised if Auburn doesn't land a very good one.
Start a new streak next year.... Buck Fama.
Thank the good Lord you guys upped Houston Nutt's ante. I think half of the AU fanbase would have stormed the gates if the Right Reverend and his goofy entourage showed up in Auburn.
He did do a good job with Ole Miss this season, but he's just as likely to yank a 4-7 record out of his ass next year while he sends photos of himself in Victoria's Secret lingere to Madeline Albright.
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As an OM fan, I'm glad Boone paid up and kept Nutt. He'll typically keep OM in bowls. He has a decent (not great) shot of getting OM to Atlanta (not Peach, either) and will likely offest that with a 4-8 season along the way.
His track record at Arkansas was better than anything OM has seen since I was born. I'll be happy if he repeats it at OM.
If I were an Auburn fan, I'd agree with you. Auburn has done better lately and should damn sure expect better if they fired (resigned, whatever) Tuberville.
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You're the last true rational rebel fan. That was a picture perfect analysis.
And we are united in our hate of the University of Saban.