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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Ogre on December 03, 2008, 05:30:12 PM
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Who would your top 3 (realistic) coaching candidates be? Here are mine (subject to change):
- Chris Peterson (Boise State)
- Kyle Whittingham (Utah)
- Brian Kelley (Cincinnati)
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All I want for Christmas is...
1. Will Muschamp to be worth the hype, and Auburn to have the balls to throw enough money at him to get him out of the UT contract.
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I'm under the belief that we've already got someone. I'm not sure the Tuberville move is made without it. Look for a dog and pony show for a day or two, but otherwise, a quick announcement.
I'm looking at either Muschamp (who's recruiting IN STATE TODAY), or Butch Davis.
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All I want for Christmas is...
1. Will Muschamp to be worth the hype, and Auburn to have the balls to throw enough money at him to get him out of the UT contract.
No, no, noononononononononononononononononononoon...NO.
Muschamp is NOT READY.
He may never be ready.
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Who would your top 3 (realistic) coaching candidates be? Here are mine (subject to change):
- Chris Peterson (Boise State)
- Kyle Whittingham (Utah)
- Brian Kelley (Cincinnati)
Fuck a mid-major coach.
We're better than that.
Bring me Butch Davis.
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IS there a chance that Butch Davis will leave NC?
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Butch.
Maybe TCU's coach. Maybe. Anything beyond that had better be a ridiculous completely unexpected splash. I doubt that'll happen though.
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I've been told that we have a 0% chance of landing Butch Davis, from a guy in the 'biz.'
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Muschamp
Davis
Peterson
I believe there is a dollar figure that could get a coach with his ego out of a basketball first school. I think he'd go applepie.
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As I said in another thread, I have been told that there is a 0% chance that Butch Davis will come to Auburn. Things change, but if Butch is your #1, I would go ahead and start looking for your #2.
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Thoughts on: Paul Johnson?
And I think it's realistic that we could get Spurrier, and I'd like to see that. I know many will say he's fallen off, but the fact of the matter is South Carolina is a barren wasteland that NO hall of fame coach can succeed at. I think he realizes this as well. Whether or not he cares, is another story.
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Thoughts on: Paul Johnson?
And I think it's realistic that we could get Spurrier, and I'd like to see that. I know many will say he's fallen off, but the fact of the matter is South Carolina is a barren wasteland that NO hall of fame coach can succeed at. I think he realizes this as well. Whether or not he cares, is another story.
I like Paul Johnson...at Navy...and at Tech. I don't really want him here.
Spurrier is a relic. He's too old. He's lost the fire. Fuck him.
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I would love Paul Johnson (though I doubt he shows up), that's Auburn football right there. Screw Peterson or Killingham and their pansy spread attack. Give me somebody who is going to by God run the football!
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Paul Johnson couldn't excite a corpse. Spurrier just wants to play golf.
It'll be a younger energetic recruiting ball of fire, or an established big name young enough, but experienced enough to make the playmakers make decisions.
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Dare I suggest Pat Nix?
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Dare I suggest Pat Nix?
No.
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Is Pat Sullivan still in football?
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Pat is the Coach at Samford. Nix was hot for a while but I don't think he's the man. Muschamp is my choice.
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Pat is the Coach at Samford. Nix was hot for a while but I don't think he's the man. Muschamp is my choice.
That will work. The last coach we stole from Samford went on a 22 game winning streak. :cage:
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I wonder if we can get Tuberville?
In all seriousness, we fucked up. He's the best coach available at present.
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mike riley's (oregon state u) name has been mentioned here on the left coast.
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I wonder if we can get Tuberville?
In all seriousness, we fucked up. He's the best coach available at present.
i agree. if auburn waffled on the idea weeks ago they should have done it at that time. tennessee beat us to it.
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I've been told that we have a 0% chance of landing Butch Davis, from a guy in the 'biz.'
I think he's happy where he is.
He didn't go to Tennessee when the opportunity knocked (a little dated but relevent):
Sources: Butch Davis Tennessee's Top Target
Posted Nov 10th 2008 4:45PM
by Ryan Ferguson
Butch Davis says he's happy at North Carolina and that he isn't going anywhere...
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And he didn't.
The rest of the story:
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2008/11/10/sources-butch-davis-tennessees-top-target/ (http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2008/11/10/sources-butch-davis-tennessees-top-target/)
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We shouldn't be stating who we would want, instead, we should be stating who we think it is. Auburn already has the HC, from what I've heard. And that he'll be named within this time next week. I've also been told that the HC has ties to the SEC. I'm leaning towards 'Champ, Jimbo, Leach, Spurrier.....ummm, Hal Mumme, Woody Woodenhofer. Maybe Turner Gill (No ties to the SEC), Brent Venables (No ties, I think), Steve Sarkisian (No ties), or Charlie Strong.
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We shouldn't be stating who we would want, instead, we should be stating who we think it is. Auburn already has the HC, from what I've heard. And that he'll be named within this time next week. I've also been told that the HC has ties to the SEC. I'm leaning towards 'Champ, Jimbo, Leach, Spurrier.....ummm, Hal Mumme, Woody Woodenhofer. Maybe Turner Gill (No ties to the SEC), Brent Venables (No ties, I think), Steve Sarkisian (No ties), or Charlie Strong.
If those are the options we are indeed fucked.
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I would not be opposed to Jimbo Fisher or Mike Leach. Pederson or Kelly (Cincinnati) would be a step up also. I want a coach that isn't prone to taking his foot off the opponents throat when they're on the ropes. I want our mantra to be "TAKE NO PRISONERS!"
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Paul Johnson couldn't excite a corpse
Apparently winning doesn't excite you because that's all Paul Johnson does. On the other hand, you must have been very very excited this year.
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Apparently winning doesn't excite you because that's all Paul Johnson does. On the other hand, you must have been very very excited this year.
Dude, you are on a roll tonight. I thought you were actually a semi-decent Bammer poster, until you came back on today and showed your ass in typical cocky Bammer fashion.
Anyway, none of these names excite me. Most of them "made their name" this year. I don't see them fitting in at Auburn.
We have tried to shake the proverbial coaching tree already this year by implementing a spread offense into a program that has traditionally been a run first ask questions later type offense.
I ask you, why not shake the tree again? What the fuck do we have to lose? Why not do something a little bit different? Why not do something that might fire us up again? Seriously, I feel that we are starting over anyway.
I say wait a little longer to see how the NFL season pans out. Grab a coach from team that runs the ball down their opponents throat. There's usually a couple of coaches who are available after the season. I don't have any recommendations, but I'd be willing to compare a fallen NFL coaches resume versus some of the names on this thread.
Am I reaching?
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What is it with you and your obsession with being a run first team? Still longing for the days of Vincent "Bo" Jackson with Pat Dye as HC and running the wishbone? and you talk about Bama fans living in the past...By the way the spread is just a formation and many teams run very well out of it (Paul Johnson's option offense is actually a "spread" offense... you should be more concerned with having a balanced attack...if I were AU I would be trying to hire an offensive minded coach since that has been the most inept part of the AU team for years, one who can recruit on the offensive side of the ball...you have the defensive players already and will always have the defensive players to have a great D...I say Turner Gill or Mike Leach...Butch Davis isn't going anywhere, for places to live, Triangle area of NC > than anywhere else.
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Paul Johnson's option offense is actually a "spread" offense...
Um...no. Not at all. Thanks for playing.
Have you even seen that formation? It is as bunched up as it gets. I am a fan of his but I don't see him leaving Tech at all.
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muschamp has already put one end of the leash around his neck and the other end in brown's hand. Why anyone thinks he is ready for the sec is beyond me. He basically told the world he doesn't think he is ready with his texas deal.
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Um...no. Not at all. Thanks for playing.
Have you even seen that formation? It is as bunched up as it gets. I am a fan of his but I don't see him leaving Tech at all.
West Virginia ran all over your ass out of the spread...Yeah as I said many people miss understand....Johnson even calls it the spread. It is basically a four receiver set with one back in the backfield...its a fucking spread offense...just because the slot receivers are moved in, that makes it not a spread? its still a spread
http://huskersforpauljohnson.blogspot.com/2007/10/understanding-paul-johnsons-offense.html (http://huskersforpauljohnson.blogspot.com/2007/10/understanding-paul-johnsons-offense.html)
It starts with the name: triple option. Some have called it the "flexbone." Quarterback Lamar Owens said the team calls it "the spread." Just don't call it the wishbone. Reporters and other coaches often have made that mistake.
"And that drives Coach crazy," Navy athletics spokesman Scott Strasemeier said. "It's nowhere close to what the wishbone is."
That's because the wishbone has three backs in the backfield; the triple option has one, with a slotback (or "A-back") lined up next to and behind the tackle on each side of the five-man offensive line.
After the quarterback gets the ball on the snap, he has three basic options in one direction or another: (1) keep it, (2) give it to the fullback or (3) flick it to a slot back.
On any play, any of those players could get the ball, forcing the opposing defense to stick to those four players at all times (the QB, fullback and two slotbacks), plus the single receivers lined up wide on each side.
On paper, the triple option's formation resembles a spread-out run-and-shoot passing offense. With the right personnel – a strong-armed quarterback and fast receivers – Navy could run that offense out of it and pass for a "zillion yards," Johnson said.
...yeah he's not leaving Tech anyway
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Muschamp is not going to leave Texas. Why would he? Being officially announced as Mack Brown's replacement has set his place for now.
I have been a big fan of Bobby Johnson's for the past couple of years now and wondered why nobody has grabbed him up. I think the guy could do wonders for a school with better talent. He also already knows the SEC. He is my #1 candidate choice.
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Muschamp is not coming back to Auburn not with Jacobs at the helm.
Forget about Davis...he would be my #1 as well , but he is well entrenched at UNC and loves it there. Not gonna happen IMO.
Kelly from Cincy would be a front runner, as would Charlie Strong. I thing Strong has got a hell of a resume and believe me having a black coach would do very....very well for recruiting. I just don't know if the PTB would pull the trigger (which is sad).
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Charlie is one of the Coaches....year in, year out that for some doesn't get a Real look at being a HC. Maybe he likes being a DC? Kinda like Norm Chow, except that CNC has gotten plenty of looks.
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I don't think leach would be so bad. Why? Because he could help keep all of our offensive recruits and perhaps add some. The only way I would want him is if we do something to ensure good defense like keeping tubs around for advice on hires and scheming and such.
If we had the same quality defenses we have had lately and a high powered O, who knows? Can leach adjust his style slightly to go a little more power style spread?
Just a thought. One thing for damn sure, imo, fuck mussdawg, butch davis, and several others I've heard named.
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I don't think leach would be so bad. Why? Because he could help keep all of our offensive recruits and perhaps add some. The only way I would want him is if we do something to ensure good defense like keeping tubs around for advice on hires and scheming and such.
If we had the same quality defenses we have had lately and a high powered O, who knows? Can leach adjust his style slightly to go a little more power style spread?
Just a thought. One thing for damn sure, imo, fuck mussdawg, butch davis, and several others I've heard named.
Leach is a Hindenburg hire.
When you evaluate Tuberville, you evaluate his entire body of work. I don't disagree with that. But do the same with Leach. His body of work is NUMBINGLY unimpressive. Four losses a year. We already had that and had it with somebody who looks better, speaks better, dresses better, manages games better and has never in his entire career given up 60 points in a game.
Hiring Leach is the equivalent of Elizabeth Berkley taking that awesome role in Showgirls. It was such a boost to her career.
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What is it with you and your obsession with being a run first team? Still longing for the days of Vincent "Bo" Jackson with Pat Dye as HC and running the wishbone? and you talk about Bama fans living in the past...By the way the spread is just a formation and many teams run very well out of it (Paul Johnson's option offense is actually a "spread" offense... you should be more concerned with having a balanced attack...if I were AU I would be trying to hire an offensive minded coach since that has been the most inept part of the AU team for years, one who can recruit on the offensive side of the ball...you have the defensive players already and will always have the defensive players to have a great D...I say Turner Gill or Mike Leach...Butch Davis isn't going anywhere, for places to live, Triangle area of NC > than anywhere else.
I'm admittedly a fan of the running game, and that's why I post as such. Excuse me for supporting the most effective component of our offenses over the years. I'll try to keep it simple for you, so that you will understand it better: We've always run to set up the pass. We've typically recruited offensively for this type of scheme. We try to change it up this year and it blows up in our face, mostly because (as I've said all year long) we don't have the talent at QB or WR to run the spread effectively.
I just can't get behind Leach because I'm not convinced that he would be able to turn our offense around when implementing his system, even with his coaches coming on board. They'd have to be god damn miracle workers to make that happen. I actually agree with your synopsis of our defenses and do believe we will struggle the least (I hate putting it that way) in this area when bringing players on board. I just will always feel that we should continue to support a pound the ground offense until someone comes in a proves to me that we can run a spread type of formation effectively, but it just won't happen with what we currently have to work with.
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Leach is a Hindenburg hire.
When you evaluate Tuberville, you evaluate his entire body of work. I don't disagree with that. But do the same with Leach. His body of work is NUMBINGLY unimpressive. Four losses a year. We already had that and had it with somebody who looks better, speaks better, dresses better, manages games better and has never in his entire career given up 60 points in a game.
Hiring Leach is the equivalent of Elizabeth Berkley taking that awesome role in Showgirls. It was such a boost to her career.
I think you have to also look at where he started with texas tech and where they are now. He has built a program that is consistently gooda dn has lost fewer and fewer games. They beat oklahoma last year and texas this year. He will have much more talent to work with at AU than he had to start with at tech and could bring in some big offensive recruits.
Don't get me wrong, there are several others I'd like to hire but I would rather have leach over many of the names I have heard mentioned on this thread.
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How about Skip Holtz? To all you that want Auburn to get good ESPN press, this might be a good one.
http://ecupirates.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/holtz_skip00.html (http://ecupirates.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/holtz_skip00.html)
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How about Skip Holtz? To all you that want Auburn to get good ESPN press, this might be a good one.
I thought about that but thit... do we want hith father the penith as part of hith package? Thurly you jest...
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There is only ONE man for this job:
(http://www.secsportsfan.com/images/houston-nutt.jpg)
Word on the street is that he was spotted in Opelika earlier this week. :vn:
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I too hate Lou, but Skip is a winner and has been everywhere he has been.
In all, he has been involved in eight New Year's Day bowl games during his coaching career. Prior to his stint at South Carolina, the overall record of teams he had been associated with as an assistant coach was an impressive 67-15-2.
And he's been at some pretty impressive places:
Year Position University
2005-2008 Head Football Coach East Carolina University; Greenville, N.C.
2004 Asst. Head Coach/Quarterbacks Coach University of South Carolina; Columbia, S.C.
1999-2003 Asst. Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator University of South Carolina; Columbia, S.C.
1994-1998 Head Football Coach University of Connecticut; Storrs, Conn.
1992-1993 Offensive Coordinator University of Notre Dame; South Bend, Ind.
1990-1991 Wide Receivers Coach University of Notre Dame; South Bend, Ind.
1989 Wide Receivers Coach Colorado State University; Fort Collins, Colo.
1987-1988 Graduate Asst. Coach Florida State University; Tallahassee, Fla.
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There is only ONE man for this job:
(http://kermittheblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/nutt.jpg)
Word on the street is that he was spotted in Opelika earlier this week. :vn:
The red X has a vast knowledge of football.
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There is only ONE man for this job:
(http://www.secsportsfan.com/images/houston-nutt.jpg)
Word on the street is that he was spotted in Opelika earlier this week. :vn:
You are a bad man and will burn for suggesting things like this.
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I too hate Lou, but Skip is a winner and has been everywhere he has been.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you - but dammit... hathenth the auburn family been thru enough?
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You are a bad man and will burn for suggesting things like this.
Just repeating what I heard.
This guy also needs a job:
(http://media.charleston.net/img/photos/2007/12/03/sportslede__t180.jpg)
All joking aside, this sucks for you guys. I really like Tuberville. I hope you can find a worthy replacement.
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Year Position University
2005-2008 Head Football Coach East Carolina University; Greenville, N.C.
2004 Asst. Head Coach/Quarterbacks Coach University of South Carolina; Columbia, S.C.
1999-2003 Asst. Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator University of South Carolina; Columbia, S.C.
1994-1998 Head Football Coach University of Connecticut; Storrs, Conn.
1992-1993 Offensive Coordinator University of Notre Dame; South Bend, Ind.
1990-1991 Wide Receivers Coach University of Notre Dame; South Bend, Ind.
1989 Wide Receivers Coach Colorado State University; Fort Collins, Colo.
1987-1988 Graduate Asst. Coach Florida State University; Tallahassee, Fla.
Some portions of his resume should be discounted as they were the direct result of nepotism.
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The ITAT crowd is pretty hot and heavy on Jimbo Fisher.
He does not excite me.
Fuck this mess. Fuck this mess in its stupid ass.
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Hell no to Skip Holtz, and Hell no to Jimbo Fisher.
Strong wouldn't be too bad IMO, or Kelley from the Natti.
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fisher? Yeah, lets go with the guy who went to the fsu talent pool and has put forth crappy offense after crappy offense. Seems like an idiotic hire.
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The ITAT crowd is pretty hot and heavy on Jimbo Fisher.
He does not excite me.
Fuck this mess. Fuck this mess in its stupid ass.
Fisher would be a bigger mistake than Muschamp.
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I like the idea of Charlie Strong myself.
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I know you guys are going to kill me for this, but the more and more I think about it, I think Muschamp may be the best choice right now. I think it is a moot point, but if we could get him, I think it may be a good hire.
Muschamp knows Saban. He knows how he works, he knows how he recruits, and he knows how he coaches. He would know what it takes to compete on the recruiting trail...which is BY FAR what Saban was kicking Tubs ass in. He is a young, aggressive dude. HUGE name! Could generate A LOT of excitement. We would have a solid defense still. I would almost bet that our recruiting commitments would stay put if he was announced. AND I bet that since he is such a defensive mind, he would try to hire a great OC and then he would STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY. He is a young dude and he could be aroud for a while if we treated him right.
I'll say this, he has got IT. Not sure what IT is, but you don't get to where he is, which is in negotiations (as a 30 something) to take over a TOP 3 PROGRAM in the country without have IT. Name another coach that you could say all of these things about. Sure, he has no HC experience...but he has BIG GAME experience and BIG TIME PROGRAM experience. If he yook the job, he would know EXACTLY what he was getting into.
The coach from TCU, Tech, Natti or any of the other schools can't say that...
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Leach has withdrawn his name from consideration for the Washington HC vacancy acc'd to Red Raider Sports. He is a candidate for the Auburn job at this time.
From Rivals...
Please please God no........
Being out here in Texas, I know that this is a weird dude. He would have no idea what he was getting into....NONE...
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From Rivals...
Please please God no........
Being out here in Texas, I know that this is a weird dude. He would have no idea what he was getting into....NONE...
Well fuck a duck.
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From Rivals...
Please please God no........
Being out here in Texas, I know that this is a weird dude. He would have no idea what he was getting into....NONE...
PLEEEEAAASSSEEE NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
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I certainly hope that Leach is a smokescreen as some have said...
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From Rivals...
Please please God no........
Being out here in Texas, I know that this is a weird dude. He would have no idea what he was getting into....NONE...
I do not fucking want Mike Leach as our head coach. I will kill a kitten.
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I do not fucking want Mike Leach as our head coach. I will kill a kitten.
Why not? I can just imagine what all you would be saying if he pulled a kid out of the stands and made him the starting kicker...oh yeah but next year you would suck, as you still don't have the WRs to run his offense.
I still say Auburn should try to get Turner Gill from Buffalo...fairly young energetic coach who likes to run the ball...and the PR would be awesome b/c he's black
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From Rivals...
Please please God no........
Being out here in Texas, I know that this is a weird dude. He would have no idea what he was getting into....NONE...
Are you close enough to Nancy Kerrigan the bastard?
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Why not? I can just imagine what all you would be saying if he pulled a kid out of the stands and made him the starting kicker...oh yeah but next year you would suck, as you still don't have the WRs to run his offense.
I still say Auburn should try to get Turner Gill from Buffalo...fairly young energetic coach who likes to run the ball...and the PR would be awesome b/c he's black
Or the QB to run the offen....wait Chris Todd will be a Senior next year, so forget about not having the QB, lol.
IMO, Auburn isn't smart enough to try and get CTG. I think he'd be a heck of a pick up, as would Coach Patterson. Coach Leach? It would depend on who he'd bring in as the DC and/or keep Coach Willis.
Whomever comes, I hope that they'll keep Coach Willis.
How 'bout this, Coach Leach being named as the HC AND he asks the BBQ Boys to stay on, and they accept??? huh, that sounds like a Championship program Right Thar....
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I want Pat Nix as Oc, Tracy Rocker as Dc bring the Auburn boys back home. Turner Gill as my head coach.
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I want Pat Nix as Oc, Tracy Rocker as Dc bring the Auburn boys back home. Turner Gill as my head coach.
I hate Tracy Rocker...
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I want Pat Nix as Oc, Tracy Rocker as Dc bring the Auburn boys back home. Turner Gill as my head coach.
No. No. & No.
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I think Turner Gill would be a great hire. What I'm worrying about with this whole "We're gonna open up the checkbook thing" is that the BOT is going to put pressure to hire a name brand guy, irregardless if he fits in or not.
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http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/12/auburn_taking_a_hard_look_at_n.html (http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/12/auburn_taking_a_hard_look_at_n.html)
Discuss.
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http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/12/auburn_taking_a_hard_look_at_n.html (http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/12/auburn_taking_a_hard_look_at_n.html)
Discuss.
I got four seats that somebody can begin purchasing from the ticket office if this happens.
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http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/12/auburn_taking_a_hard_look_at_n.html (http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/12/auburn_taking_a_hard_look_at_n.html)
Discuss.
That's how are coaching search story begins in today's Birmingham News. Houston Nutt? There's a little ``wow'' factor, there. We're name-dropping a few others, too.
Oh Birmingham News...
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I got four seats that somebody can begin purchasing from the ticket office if this happens.
It would be a shame to throw a chair through a 52" LCD if that were to happen.