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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: War Eagle!!! on September 20, 2008, 11:10:50 PM
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1) Special teams lost that game
2) The reason i said that I would not ike the spread, is that teams would not be able to run our the clock with uner 5:00 left... that proved devistating tongiht...
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yup, i really don't know what to say right now... just kinda dumbfounded at some of the play calling the 2nd half. Looks like todds arm got sore or some shit
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I see why Shoemaker's ass has been planted firmly on the bench this season, he killed us with his constant shankfoot.
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anyone seen fannin lately? I wish for once, we could find a good OC that looked at our talent and said, we"re gonna put all of you fuckers in and let you play
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I loathe losing. I despise it. I hate it.
That game was lost for three reasons:
1) Chris Todd displayed piss-poor decision-making skills on three second half drives. Crumpling like a freaking turtle before anybody hit him to knock AU out of FG range, panicking like a frightened kindergardner on another drive inside the LSU 20 and throwing a pick, and curling up like a turtle before being hit on the big loss on the last so-called drive.
2) Chicken crap fear of LSU's "return game" Scardey-cat punts and kickoffs gave a short field all night long. Kicking game blew goats, chickens and orangutans.
3) The worst series of plays in the history of college football with the ball and just 5:00 left on the clock. ONE freaking first down flips the script. Instead AU runs that stupid STUPID STUPID ass stretch play that hadn't gotten a yard in three freaking games. That was awful. Abysmal. Ignorant.
That is all I have to say and likely all I WILL have to say for a good while.
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anyone seen fannin lately? I wish for once, we could find a good OC that looked at our talent and said, we"re gonna put all of you fuckers in and let you play
Bullshit
I agree that Mario looked good last year. He has looed slow this year. OC had nothing to do with us getting beat. We lost on specail teams and defense tonight. I really hate that we couldn't get a first down within 5 minutes, but we also may not have scored in a other offense in the 4th quarter.
We got beat by a team that had more bounces bouce their way. Hat off to the...no pun intended.
Auburn payed a good game and I believe that we could have won the game with the way we played!
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I loathe losing. I despise it. I hate it.
That is all I have to say and likely all I WILL have to say for a good while.
You are a negative mother fucker. You can't win every game...Auburn played a really good game. Todd played a really good game. The only play I have a big time problem with is getting sacked to make it 2nd and 25 under a minute to play. if you have nothing to say for a while...that is fine with me...
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You are a negative mother fucker. You can't win every game...Auburn played a really good game. Todd played a really good game. The only play I have a big time problem with is getting sacked to make it 2nd and 25 under a minute to play. if you have nothing to say for a while...that is fine with me...
Take your sunshine and roses and shove them up your........ oh nevermind.
I hate losing. If you don't, well, I don't really know what to say or think about that. Yeah. Hating to lose is soooooooooo negative. Wouldn't want to injiure anybody self-esteem. Good job!
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Take your sunshine and roses and shove them up your........ oh nevermind.
I hate losing. If you don't, well, I don't really know what to say or think about that. Yeah. Hating to lose is soooooooooo negative. Wouldn't want to injiure anybody self-esteem. Good job!
You have no idea how much I hate losing. The problem is...you are a slicik talking mother fucker sitting behind a key board. I would be willing to bet you have never played a snap of meaningful football in your life. You just want to complain when shit doesn't work out like you want...
I have played a lot of football...I have played a lot of meaningful football. Sometimes the ball bounces you way...sometimes it doesn't...it is people like you that give fans a bad name that say this and that...
The ball didn't bounce Auburn's way tonight but they played hard and they did what it took to win the game. I saw progress tonight. if you didn't...fine...that is why your ass just complains on a message board...
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The sequence that seemed to flip the momentum their way was when we had a first down inside their 20 on our first drive of the 3rd quarter...up 14-3 and we really had a chance to step on their neck at that point.
We managed to back ourselves out of FG range, then compounded that by getting off a whopping 7-yard punt. LSU scored shortly thereafter and it was game on.
Even a FG to make it 17-3 would have kept our momentum from the end of the first half going.
A very frustrating loss...hopefully they won't let it turn into two. Tennessee is struggling mightily right now, but we've shown an ability to play to our level of competition.
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Auburn gave up 400 yards to LSU on defense. Auburn gained 320. Auburn dropped a lot of passes too...don't blme this loss on the offense or on Franklin...If you do, it is bullshit. Auburn just lost...sometimes that happens...
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I thought Auburn showed much improvement from the Mss. st game to this one. All i'm saying is I watch all of these other teams on college football with "less talent' than we have and they are moving the ball, getting first downs, catching passes and such.
I'm no football player, i've never played a meaningful game. I can tell you that no matter how hard these young men play, they aren't the ones making $200k +.
Is it so hard for me, as a fan, to say "Fuck, I wish we had a guy that could come right in and utilize the tools we do have?" Does that make me a negative nancy or just another fan of Auburn football?
I'm glad Auburn is showing improvement, but I can always want more.. thats just fucking American
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You have no idea how much I hate losing. The problem is...you are a slicik talking mother fucker sitting behind a key board. I would be willing to bet you have never played a snap of meaningful football in your life. You just want to complain when shit doesn't work out like you want...
I have played a lot of football...I have played a lot of meaningful football. Sometimes the ball bounces you way...sometimes it doesn't...it is people like you that give fans a bad name that say this and that...
The ball didn't bounce Auburn's way tonight but they played hard and they did what it took to win the game. I saw progress tonight. if you didn't...fine...that is why your ass just complains on a message board...
No offfense, dude, but I don't care if you played for the 1984 Bears. Don't care if your name is Favre. Don't care if you're the illegitimate son of Vince Lombardi and gave birth to Walter Payton. Right now, you're nothing more than a fan just like everybody else on here. You've got your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it. So is everybody else.
I hate losing. Period. That's not a criticism. It's a fact. it's not negative. It's a plain and simple fact. I was negative as hell after the first game and the MSU game. There were encouraging signs tonight, sort of, but the only significant difference was that there were fewer penalties and fumbles.
The loss of that game had nothing to do with "ball bounces." That game was lost in execution and the inabilty to do so at critical times. It was lost in conservatism to a degree. It was a game AU could have won. I won't go so far to say it was a game AU should have won, because, honestly, I thought the better team came out on top. LSU made plays when it had to. Far too often, AU didn't. I thought AU was out-coached, too. but that's just my opinion.
So maybe progress was enough for you. When you watch the team put itself in a hole for the most meaningful season goal -- winning the West -- progress is nice, but not very satisfying.
And i still hate losing. I'll always hate it.
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Auburn gave up 400 yards to LSU on defense. Auburn gained 320. Auburn dropped a lot of passes too...don't blme this loss on the offense or on Franklin...If you do, it is bullshit. Auburn just lost...sometimes that happens...
Disagree to an extent. But because it won't do either of us any good, I'll decline to elaborate.
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No offfense, dude, but I don't care if you played for the 1984 Bears. Don't care if your name is Favre. Don't care if you're the illegitimate son of Vince Lombardi and gave birth to Walter Payton. Right now, you're nothing more than a fan just like everybody else on here. You've got your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it. So is everybody else.
I hate losing. Period. That's not a criticism. It's a fact. it's not negative. It's a plain and simple fact. I was negative as hell after the first game and the MSU game. There were encouraging signs tonight, sort of, but the only significant difference was that there were fewer penalties and fumbles.
The loss of that game had nothing to do with "ball bounces." That game was lost in execution and the inabilty to do so at critical times. It was lost in conservatism to a degree. It was a game AU could have won. I won't go so far to say it was a game AU should have won, because, honestly, I thought the better team came out on top. LSU made plays when it had to. Far too often, AU didn't. I thought AU was out-coached, too. but that's just my opinion.
So maybe progress was enough for you. When you watch the team put itself in a hole for the most meaningful season goal -- winning the West -- progress is nice, but not very satisfying.
And i still hate losing. I'll always hate it.
Auburn was outcoached...but it wasn't because of Franklin. It was in the special teams...LSU getting an onside kick...NO EXCUSE. It flipped fied position and helped them keep momentum in the second half.
I don't want progress...I want to win. Sometimes I now that that no matter how uch I want it hough...sometimes it doesn't always work out. Auburn gave up 400 yards... 400 YARDS...
So which is it? What are you going to bitch about and which coach are you going to want to fire this week? Todd played a good game! He was playing against a VERY good defense...wha the fuck do you want? The shit just doesn't go your way every fucking time. LSU got pretty fortunate on a lot of plays.
I think...no shit...if Auburn and LSU play 10 times in Jorday Hare...Auburn wins at least 7 of those playing like they did tonight. Unfortunately, tonight was one of the 3. What do you do? Auburn played well...
And I am not claiming I am a better fan. You just bitch and bitch and bitch and I think it is not fair for someone to sit behind a message board that has never played a down to btich about how you should fire this person and the players suck and every damn thing else. You don't know what goes into a football game...much less a football season...
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Disagree to an extent. But because it won't do either of us any good, I'll decline to elaborate.
Disagree...it doesn't matter. If you say something worth a sht I will listen. I am a rational dude. I just don't think you can say much that will change the fact that Auburn didn't get it done defensively or on the special teams...
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And I am really drunk...so I am sorry for the typos...but I mean everything I say...even if you can't read it...
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Just got home from a long drive from Auburn.
After finally watching Auburn in person this year, I must say, we suck.
Take that however you want to, but it's the true. I felt like we played a lot better tonight that we were capable of. Some of the play calling was abysmal. Todd throws his passes on rainbows. They take FoOOOOoORrrRRReEeeeEeVVvvveeeerrrRRRRrrr to get to their intended receiver.
The worst part was the game management. 5:00 minutes with 2 timeouts...that's 1/3 of a quarter and Tuberville obviously dipped his hand into the playbook and said, "Let's take this one into halftime." Well, that shit don't work. We got lucky that LSU was piss-poor in the 1st half because they obviously wanted to spend the final 2 minutes getting a TD.
Also, Chris Todd throws rainbows. I can't stress this enough. His arm is not SEC caliber. I don't give a rats ass whether or not he makes every decision a perfect decision - when the DBs are fast enough to cover sideline to sideline, you better have an arm that can zip it to the WRs.
Defensively, we have don't have a great pass rush. That's what killed us. You can't cover receivers with a blanket all night. You have to get to the QB. We had some good moments, but we need more of a consistent pass rush.
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Just got home from a long drive from Auburn.
After finally watching Auburn in person this year, I must say, we suck.
Take that however you want to, but it's the true. I felt like we played a lot better tonight that we were capable of. Some of the play calling was abysmal. Todd throws his passes on rainbows. They take FoOOOOoORrrRRReEeeeEeVVvvveeeerrrRRRRrrr to get to their intended receiver.
The worst part was the game management. 5:00 minutes with 2 timeouts...that's 1/3 of a quarter and Tuberville obviously dipped his hand into the playbook and said, "Let's take this one into halftime." Well, that shit don't work. We got lucky that LSU was piss-poor in the 1st half because they obviously wanted to spend the final 2 minutes getting a TD.
Also, Chris Todd throws rainbows. I can't stress this enough. His arm is not SEC caliber. I don't give a rats ass whether or not he makes every decision a perfect decision - when the DBs are fast enough to cover sideline to sideline, you better have an arm that can zip it to the WRs.
Defensively, we have don't have a great pass rush. That's what killed us. You can't cover receivers with a blanket all night. You have to get to the QB. We had some good moments, but we need more of a consistent pass rush.
You are on crack...
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They looked better last night. In a close game like that, you have to have just about everything go right. I thought special teams was the culprit in this game in more ways than just punting. (Which was awful) Trindon Holliday put the ball on the ground a couple of times and we didn't come up with it.
Other than that, I thought Charles Scott was the difference. He got better as the game went on and as he got stronger, their line started beating on ours. Tough loss, hell of a game.
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You don't know what goes into a football game...much less a football season...
You make some pretty broad assumptions. And you're 100% wrong on this one.
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I guess it doesn't matter where ''the savior Franklin '' is, sideline or booth, no game script or just on ''force powers'' or feelings, he's got you guys all fucked up. Meltdown mode is in full force. Maybe the ''process '' will start taking effect soon? It is a process right? :rofl:
What's up with all the grumblings about Kodi transfering? Where there's smoke.
Your D is no joke though. Those mutherfuckers hit and hit hard. I'm quite suprised and impressed with them. Of course a freshmen QB came in the game and put it on that D so........still It's a shame they have to suffer at the hands of possibly one of the worse offenses in college.
You guys keep up with the Beatdown farks too. They're pretty funny.
:popcorn:
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You make some pretty broad assumptions. And you're 100% wrong on this one.
You're right...drunk talking. My bad.
I still stand by the fact that it was a hard fought game that could have been won. Auburn played good enough to win. Special teams lost the game for us.
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You are on crack...
I don't know about crack, but at the time of typing that, I was pretty damn tired.
Tell me, how can you be so optimistic of our football team? Saying that we simply played better doesn't cut it for me. Miss St's offense played better against GA Tech than they did against us. They actually scored a touchdown. Yet, I still think they suck because they got obliterated 38-7 by a team that had a first year coach and had installed a brand new offense.
Think about that - a team that is going through the same growing pains with LESS talented players put up 38 points against a team we couldn't score more than 3 against.
Our offense did look better. They actually scored TWO touchdowns! That high-flying pass happy offense is really turning it on now! :taunt:
It wasn't special teams; it wasn't our defense; it really wasn't our offense. It was T-O-M-M-Y T-U-B-E-R-V-I-L-L-E. Scarbinsky had it right this morning. Les Miles is 3-1 against Tubs and has an SEC championship and a National championship because of one definitive difference: The Hat plays to win; Tuberville plays not to lose.
There were 5 mins left in the second quarter, and we had two timeouts left. That's 1/3 of a freaking quarter to put some points on the board. What did Tubs order? RUN DOWN THE CLOCK. That's not winning a football game. That's playing ultra conservative. A lot of people are whining about the defense in the 4th quarter. Well, unless my eyes deceived me, we went up 21-20 and then made LSU go 3 and out. Should have been the damn ball game thanks to a awe-inspiring effort by our Hard Hat D. But no, we get the ball back, run left, incomplete, run right, punt. That's poor game management. That's a River Boat sinking.
That's the main reason why we suck and will continue to suck. I'm not okay with going 9-3 and 8-4 every year. I'm really not okay with going 11-2 with blowout losses to Arkansas and Georgia and barely getting by South Carolina, Ole Miss, and Alabama when they're playing bad football. I want to dominate opponents like we sorta did in 2004. I want to make a statement by stepping on the opposition's throat.
Now, for our team, if Kodi Burns ain't playing, it has to be because he's not getting it done in practice. Chris Todd got lucky. There were four throws that were just as easily in our opponent's hands as they were ours. I will admit, he made some nice plays when he needed to, but I want to have a QB who is a general on the field. He reads the defense, checks his receivers, and delivers a bullet to the receiver that he chooses. Seeing this happy-go-lucky footed Franklin Guru hop around until he finds a place to lob the ball isn't going to cut it. Don't attribute this to LSU's defense. We were no better passing the ball against LA Monroe or Miss St.
As I said last night, we played better than we really were. We got lucky on some throws. We have no running game (zone left and zone right ain't gonna cut it in the SEC). The Franklin screens aren't doing what was promised to us. Instead of having the amiable presence of Al Borges, we're stuck with a sloppy jerk-off who is having similar results.
Last season - Cox was 18-28 for 199 yards and 2 TDs. We had 97 rushing yards.
This year, Todd was 17 of 32 for 250 yards and 1 TD. We had 70 rushing yards.
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You're right...drunk talking. My bad.
I still stand by the fact that it was a hard fought game that could have been won. Auburn played good enough to win. Special teams lost the game for us.
No skin.
It could have been won, I agree. Special teams was really bad and a contributing factor, no doubt. But not the only one.
If you take away a couple of big plays, the offense was still stagnant. The running game has all but vanished. I can see when Todd attempts to run (and when I watch Pat White) what it COULD be if you had any remote running threat at quarterback, but AU just doesn't have that at all.
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http://www.thesystemclinics.com/
I want my money back.
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I guess it doesn't matter where ''the savior Franklin '' is, sideline or booth, no game script or just on ''force powers'' or feelings, he's got you guys all fucked up. Meltdown mode is in full force. Maybe the ''process '' will start taking effect soon? It is a process right? :rofl:
What's up with all the grumblings about Kodi transfering? Where there's smoke.
Fuck off
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Well I'll be damned, the sun did come up this morning. And after a nights sleep and trying to look at this game with more clarity and less emotion I can definitely say our offense sux ass. I say this based on the coaches decisions. I'm not gonna restate every miscue since they've all been stated earlier. I'd just really love to see some aggressive play calling for a change instead of this pussy shit. Damn, damn, damn...
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Well, from my vantage point, I think the offense executed the plan that was given to them pretty well. The offense (not including one left tackle <cough> Lee Ziemba) played pretty well. Hugh Nall needs to run that motherfucker until he pukes. This is 2 straight games he has fucked up royally. His man came in untouched - Ziemba wasn't within 5 yards of the guy - on the final drive. Had it not been for that 15 yard sack, I think we could have pulled it out. Chris Todd didn't lose this game.
I do agree that the play calling leaves a lot to be desired, No killer instinct at all. How much of this is Tuberville's doing, I don't know. Someone mentioned earlier that the coaches didn't call the plays that would keep the foot on their throats. Playing not to lose will get you beat a lot. We need aggressiveness.
Overall, I was pleased with the way the guys played last night. It was a hard fought game and another classic LSU - Auburn match up. There were some on this board who predicted LSU was going to rape our cattle and kill our wimmins, but that didn't happen. Auburn gave them all they wanted and then some.
The crowd last night was louder than any I have witnessed at JHS and they didn't let up the entire game.
Holly Rowe has a huge ass.
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I'm with you on all that Glenn. But you nailed that last point.
Talon, you said the sun did come up. I now becasue I watched it. Word to the wise, when you have 2 1/2 hours of driving ahead of you late at night and you've had a long day of adult, liquid refreshment, don't down one of those 5 hour energy hit things, chased by a Red Bull and then Gatorade. I could have driven to Gatlinburg. 4:00 a.m. staring at the ceiling with my heart thumping through my chest. Saw Sports Center 5 times this morning.
We still lost.
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I stood next to some troy fans last night and what upset them was that franklin doesn't seem to be running the offense the way he did at troy. Taking way too much time between snaps. Losing the advantage of the fast no huddle pace. It almost seems as though he is having to run the play thru approval channels first or something.
I say if we want to be conservative run a fucking conservative offense. If you want to run the spread then run the bleeping spread, not some falsified version that we have been running.
Why must we lose 2 yards off tackle after every successful pass play? Whay must we refuse to make a legitimate attempt for a first down when all we needed was one or two to run the clock out? Why do we open it up all the way down the field and then go all conservative once whe get it inside the 30? WHAT IS UP WITH THIS CRAPPY FREAKING PLAY CALLING?
Why do we play like we're afraid to lose and lose to teams that aren't?
You guys can knock miles all you want. He is one helluva coach and not afraid to go down with guns blazing and put the game in the hands of his playmakers. Unlike tubs who seems to get more conservative as our roster gets better. He is beginning to remind me af a skinny phil fulmer when it comes to offense. Thank God he knows his defense. And I love the guy, don't get me wrong. I love what he's done for Auburn. I just wish he would stop coaching like he is afraid to lose all the damn time.
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I'd trade places wif yall this year. We have a tough row to hoe.
Yall made improvement from the 3-2 debacle last week against a team that very well could be in the MNC game.
We showed where we are in the pecking order this year.
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Man, I was really hoping Petrino had a rabbit in his hat for this one.
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One thing I noticed last night was that LSU blitzed every fucking play. Why? Because Chris Todd is no threat to run the ball. Sure, he did the first series of the second half, but seriously, he must run the 40 in 8 seconds or something.
Another thing. Todd has an arm like my 80 year old grandma. If our receivers didn't have to come back on two or three bombs, we score two more touchdowns and run away with the game.
Lastly, what the fuck is the point of the no huddle? If you line up and then get the fucking play called in the defense has just as much time to "rest" as it does if you had a fucking huddle.
Todd completed one pass per series that kept his ass in the game. I still would have put Burns in after the first fuck-up we had in the redzone.
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One thing I noticed last night was that LSU blitzed every fucking play. Why? Because Chris Todd is no threat to run the ball. Sure, he did the first series of the second half, but seriously, he must run the 40 in 8 seconds or something.
Another thing. Todd has an arm like my 80 year old grandma. If our receivers didn't have to come back on two or three bombs, we score two more touchdowns and run away with the game.
Lastly, what the fuck is the point of the no huddle? If you line up and then get the fucking play called in the defense has just as much time to "rest" as it does if you had a fucking huddle.
Todd completed one pass per series that kept his ass in the game. I still would have put Burns in after the first fuck-up we had in the redzone.
I watched the game again twice. I am more convinced than ever that if our wagon remains hitched to Chris Todd, said wagon is headed for the ditch.
A quarterback with a live arm -- or a quarterback with live legs -- would have significantly changed LSU's plan of attack. LSU did not respect his ability to run. Give him a 15 yard opening, he'll lumber for two yards. LSU did not respect his ability to pass. Leave the safety half way across the field, he can still close on an open receiver fast enough to disrupt the play.
You can say whatever the hell you want. You can talk about "promise" and "improvement" and all that nonsense. What we have at the moment is a quarterback who embodies the very worst characteristics of the last three slow, white quarterbacks we've had. His arm is worse than Brandon Cox's. His decision-making rivals that of Daniel Cobb. And he's got the speed of Ben Leard.
I've watched that game three different times and you can blame special teams, defense or point the finger whereever you deem fit. But the fact remains that all of those issues were a direct result of PISS FREAKING POOR QUARTERBACK PLAY! DAMMMIT. DAMMIT TO HELL. Defense in a spot? Because the QB choked. Special teams has to bail them out? Because the QB blew it. I'm sorry, but that's the alpha and omega of this situation. As long as Franklin has his mouth attached firmly to Chris Todd's scrotum, this offense and this TEAM will continue to be wasted.
DAMMIT TO HELL I am SICK TO DEATH of lamenting what could have been
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I'd trade places wif yall this year.
Fuck yu in da mouf.
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Alright, I've had time to digest this game.
First and foremost, this loss left me feeling much better about this team than the 3 wins. I never felt like we were outmatched or out-classed and we were in that game until the end. No shame at all in this loss to the defending national champ.
Now the points of concern:
1) Young DBs (Thorpe and Etheridge) were getting abused by a RFr QB. Youth in the secondary will inevitably bite you in the ass at some point. The kids will learn and improve.
2) Chris Todd, as has been previously noted again and again, has the arm strength of coma patient. Those "quick" passes to the sideline would be much more effective if the CB on the Z receiver didn't have time to run across the field, make a sandwich and throw a piss bomb into the crowd before body-slamming the X receiver. The guy is heaving the ball like a shot-put, with predictable results.
3) The inability to gain a first down and seal the win. Play-calling and execution both get the gas face in this scenario.
4) Defense couldn't stop that slant pass to Byrd. A defensive stop seals the deal.
5) We've lost the ability to control our destiny in the SEC race. We're now hoping that someone else can knock LSU off.
All in all, I like our chances at a 10 win season. Not many teams can match up with, and for the better part of the game outplay, a team as talented as LSU. The rest of our schedule, UGA excluded, is loaded with good teams, but no team as good as LSU.
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Alright, I've had time to digest this game.
First and foremost, this loss left me feeling much better about this team than the 3 wins. I never felt like we were outmatched or out-classed and we were in that game until the end. No shame at all in this loss to the defending national champ.
Now the points of concern:
1) Young DBs (Thorpe and Etheridge) were getting abused by a RFr QB. Youth in the secondary will inevitably bite you in the ass at some point. The kids will learn and improve.
2) Chris Todd, as has been previously noted again and again, has the arm strength of coma patient. Those "quick" passes to the sideline would be much more effective if the CB on the Z receiver didn't have time to run across the field, make a sandwich and throw a piss bomb into the crowd before body-slamming the X receiver. The guy is heaving the ball like a shot-put, with predictable results.
3) The inability to gain a first down and seal the win. Play-calling and execution both get the gas face in this scenario.
4) Defense couldn't stop that slant pass to Byrd. A defensive stop seals the deal.
5) We've lost the ability to control our destiny in the SEC race. We're now hoping that someone else can knock LSU off.
All in all, I like our chances at a 10 win season. Not many teams can match up with, and for the better part of the game outplay, a team as talented as LSU. The rest of our schedule, UGA excluded, is loaded with good teams, but no team as good as LSU.
Can't argue with anything here. Play calling to run off the clock was the biggest issue for me. You've got to be able to run more than 30 seconds off the clock with 5 remaining and a win on the line. This also brings in the "taking your foot off their neck" mentality of our coaching staff. That HAS to be improved for your 10 win scenario to break out.